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Pickup coil replacement by gem1138
Started on: 02-27-2008 08:54 AM
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Report this Post02-27-2008 08:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for gem1138Click Here to Email gem1138Send a Private Message to gem1138Direct Link to This Post
I purchased a new ignition pickup coil and ignition module for my 88GT from The Fiero Store yesterday and expect delivery Friday or Saturday.
Replacing the ignition module is a piece of cake but what is involved in replacing the pickup coil? Is it necessary to remove the distributor?
I donít want to reinvent the wheel here.
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Report this Post02-27-2008 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManClick Here to Email JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Yes, you have to pull the distributor. The trigger star wheel is splined/pressed onto the shaft and though it looks like you could pull it up and off once you do that it won't fit tightly anymore and the distributor shaft endplay will make the distributor unuseable.

I think Jetman posted a writeup on this not too long ago, you might try the search function.

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Report this Post02-27-2008 10:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggClick Here to Email buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
how about some videos?

removing the distributor


replacing the pickup part 1


replacing the pickup part 2


putting the distributor back in


setting base timing on a V6

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^ yup like all above - its gotta get pulled......
but, it is not a toughy. just mark it properly, and its easy.
when you pull it the dist, mark where the rotor is pointing, then pull up - the rotor will turn - mark where it ends up also for even easier install.
strip what ya can
get a punch/drift whatever to tap out the roll pin holding the dist gear. take gear off, slide shaft out. really is that easy.
clean clean clean the dist shaft & bearings - make that thing spin free. I'm sure ya noticed how sticky it is when ya took it apart. that thing should spin like a top when you are done. not feel like its stuck in clay.
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Report this Post02-27-2008 11:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jetmanClick Here to visit jetman's HomePageClick Here to Email jetmanSend a Private Message to jetmanDirect Link to This Post
As compared with buddy's video's this seems so analog.
My little distributor replacement write up with pictures.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/079386.html
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Report this Post02-27-2008 01:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManClick Here to Email JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Videos are great, but only for someone who doesn't get little white squares with green puzzle pieces like I do since my work computer has been stripped of any ability whatsoever to play any kind of video of any kind by my obstructive little man syndrome sysadmin. Don't have a home computer anymore.

I like "analog" pictures, hehehe...

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Originally posted by jetman:
As compared with buddy's video's this seems so analog.


yeah, but with your picture thread, no one has to listen to my nasaly voice
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Report this Post02-27-2008 02:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gem1138Click Here to Email gem1138Send a Private Message to gem1138Direct Link to This Post
Thanks all,
I see that jetman suggests pulling the ECM fuse, but is suspect that is to prevent the engine from starting when cranked. I, unfortunately, wonít have that problem.
I am wondering why the ADL connection needs to be ground prior to setting the timing. Whatís the deal?
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Originally posted by gem1138:
Thanks all,
I see that jetman suggests pulling the ECM fuse, but is suspect that is to prevent the engine from starting when cranked. I, unfortunately, wonít have that problem.
I am wondering why the ADL connection needs to be ground prior to setting the timing. Whatís the deal?
George


it shuts off any ECM timing adjustments. you cant set the timing, if the ECM keeps moving the timing around on ya
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Originally posted by JazzMan:
Videos are great, but only for someone who doesn't get little white squares with green puzzle pieces like I do since my work computer has been stripped of any ability whatsoever to play any kind of video of any kind by my obstructive little man syndrome sysadmin. Don't have a home computer anymore.


he had to, otherwise you would spend all day on the net watching videos.
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he had to, otherwise you would spend all day on the net watching videos.


Heh, everyone else here has the ability to view videos. No, my IT spaztic has a hard-on for me, has done every passive-aggressive thing he can to reduce the quality of my job experience since day one. I have no idea what I did to trigger this guy, sure wish I knew. I still haven't seen Star Wars Kid.

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On grounding the ALDL connector to set timing, the ECM uses non-linear advance curves and is constantly tweaking the advance command to the distributor module. At idle the ECM normally commands around 30-35į advance, so if you set timing without the ALDL grounded you'll actually be setting your advance up to 25į retarded.

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Report this Post02-28-2008 07:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GwainClick Here to visit Gwain's HomePageClick Here to Email GwainSend a Private Message to GwainDirect Link to This Post
While I've watched some of the other Buddy Craigg videos, this was the first time I saw the distributor one.

I'm starting to think Buddy Craig videos should be a requirement for Pennock's membership!"

I particularly liked the "hot, hot, hot" commentary while working on the hot engine.

Buddy, you da man!!

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Originally posted by JazzMan:
Heh, everyone else here has the ability to view videos. No, my IT spaztic has a hard-on for me, has done every passive-aggressive thing he can to reduce the quality of my job experience since day one. I have no idea what I did to trigger this guy, sure wish I knew. I still haven't seen Star Wars Kid.
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i'm just razzin ya.
i've read your posts about him picking on you.
it does sound like he's singled you out for something.

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Originally posted by Gwain:
I particularly liked the "hot, hot, hot" commentary while working on the hot engine.

thanks.

and while i don't remember that particular instance in one of my videos, i'm sure we all have juggled a hot nut or bolt back and forth between our hands rather than being smart enough to just drop the damn thing
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Hey Buddy how much of your video would translate over to the mighty Iron Duke Distributor? I would assume it is very similar just missing two plug wires?
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Originally posted by Curlrup:
Hey Buddy how much of your video would translate over to the mighty Iron Duke Distributor? I would assume it is very similar just missing two plug wires?


that and it's under the intake manifold.
but it's mostly the same.
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Report this Post02-29-2008 12:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mmeyer86gt/gtpClick Here to Email mmeyer86gt/gtpSend a Private Message to mmeyer86gt/gtpDirect Link to This Post
Also if you have the whole thing out and apart look for one of my threads it shows how you can replace the ailing fiero parts with parts you can get reasonably cheap at a junkyard and the distributor will run cooler and last longer!
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