I have been under the car and try to plan the easy/less time consuming way to do this. do i have to take down the cradle or is it enough to just take the rear side of the cradle ? or is a magic way to do this ?
You have it basically figured out. Remove the left strut and hub assy. and tip the crable back. You can then pull the trans to the left and change the clutch. Tip it back far enough and you can pull the trans out the left side. I swaped my 5sp back to the 4sp doing it this way.
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Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
I supported the engine from the top side and dropped the cradle. There was just enough room to remove the transmission with the engine in place. I have a write up of the swap in the articles section of fierofocus.com (http://www.fierofocus.com/articles/0302%20Clutch%20Replacement.htm)
Think about what else you might want to replace while you have it apart...engine mounts, struts, bushings, etc and cleaning...lots of cleaning!
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solotwo Member
Posts: 5374 From: Grand Rapids, MI. USA Registered: Jun 2002
If you have an 88 you have to drop both sides. I did this a few years ago and did just the rear bolts. You need a floor jack and if I had two it would have been better. What engine? I have the 2.5. Watch the intake as it gets REAL close to the trunk. I took the TBI off. Ed Parks has the method for both 88's and pre 88's on his web site. Go to the Fiero Factory.
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The_Stickman2 Member
Posts: 1030 From: Lehigh Valley Pa. Registered: Sep 2007
We do something no one else does and it goes super easy. We pull the engine out of the top. We have done this more time than we can count(not just for clutch reasons). Never did it with a V-6 but bet it still works. You will need an engine leveler on the engine hoist.
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kyote Member
Posts: 1232 From: Germantown, Wisconsin - Metro Milwaukee Area Registered: Sep 2001
You have it basically figured out. Remove the left strut and hub assy. and tip the crable back. You can then pull the trans to the left and change the clutch. Tip it back far enough and you can pull the trans out the left side. I swaped my 5sp back to the 4sp doing it this way.
Ditto.. changed my tranny this way as well.. lifted the rear...unbolt both struts..remove rear cradle bolts.. dropped it down.. by doing it this way..you won't have to drain anything at all....
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Posts: 662 From: Granbury, TX. Registered: Jun 2004
I just pulled my 5spd. Getrag last weekend. My car's an '87 GT w/solid aluminum cradle mounts. I considered the full cradle drop, the cradle drop from the rear only, and ended up supporting the engine from the top w/ 4"x4" beam across shock towers and a threaded rod "hook" attached to motor lift point. Removed both sides suspension w/axles, dropped cradle, supported under motor w/floor jack, and pulled transmission. Had little clearance for removal. Had to remove shift cable brackets to clear left inner fender. Haven't reinstalled yet. Got a feeling it will be a little more difficult doing it myself. Please be sure to support car with as many jackstands as you can. Don't get yourself "squished"!
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KurtAKX Member
Posts: 4008 From: West Bloomfield, MI Registered: Feb 2002
We do something no one else does and it goes super easy. We pull the engine out of the top. We have done this more time than we can count(not just for clutch reasons). Never did it with a V-6 but bet it still works. You will need an engine leveler on the engine hoist.
Yeah but then you gotta pull the water pump housing off the side of the block before it'll clear everything on the way out. This is the method I use though, I've done it with the "help" of the g/f in less than a day, counting her whining.
solotwo, the fiero factory site was like gold gold.
The clutch and breakes are coming from USA tomorrow. damn norwegian toll that desided they wantet to hold the item`s for a day. Anyhow, im going to take the cradle bolts out and stuff , today så everything is ready
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Synthesis Member
Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
Tomorrow I will be pulling the transmission on my V6 5 speed to perform a transmission swap. I also have to do exhaust studs on the V6 on my car.
My process will be to completely remove the engine, set it down on the ground so that I can do a full transmission swap on the ground, and replace all of the motor mounts at that time.
Since you have the 88, you may do better by supporting the engine on an adjustable cross bar, so that you can raise and lower the engine a few inches either direction.
Then, when you remove the cradle, all you have to do is lower the engine 3 inches, and remove the transmission. Install the new clutch, reinstall transmission.
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Posts: 1030 From: Lehigh Valley Pa. Registered: Sep 2007
Yeah but then you gotta pull the water pump housing off the side of the block before it'll clear everything on the way out. This is the method I use though, I've done it with the "help" of the g/f in less than a day, counting her whining.
Yup and then you have the engine out and it is so easy to change the clutch. No having to contort ones self to get into the engine compartment.
well i have taken the rear cradle down, and dismount the gearbox. The car have been driven in salt så every bolt are a b**ch to take out.
But what distubed me, it is oil where the gearbox meet the presureplate.. i havent taken off the presureplate yet, but if its oil on the cluth... that will explain the bad clutch problem, right ? Why is it oil there and how can i fix it ?
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Kento Member
Posts: 4218 From: Beautifull Winston Salem NC Registered: Jun 2003
I just pulled my 5spd. Getrag last weekend. My car's an '87 GT w/solid aluminum cradle mounts. I considered the full cradle drop, the cradle drop from the rear only, and ended up supporting the engine from the top w/ 4"x4" beam across shock towers and a threaded rod "hook" attached to motor lift point. Removed both sides suspension w/axles, dropped cradle, supported under motor w/floor jack, and pulled transmission. Had little clearance for removal. Had to remove shift cable brackets to clear left inner fender. Haven't reinstalled yet. Got a feeling it will be a little more difficult doing it myself. Please be sure to support car with as many jackstands as you can. Don't get yourself "squished"!
Well i got 3 jackstands(under the motor, under the cradle and one to support the tranny) , 4 thingy under each wheel and attached the motor to the roof as "backup" , som im safe
I just pulled my 5spd. Getrag last weekend. My car's an '87 GT w/solid aluminum cradle mounts. I considered the full cradle drop, the cradle drop from the rear only, and ended up supporting the engine from the top w/ 4"x4" beam across shock towers and a threaded rod "hook" attached to motor lift point. Removed both sides suspension w/axles, dropped cradle, supported under motor w/floor jack, and pulled transmission. Had little clearance for removal. Had to remove shift cable brackets to clear left inner fender. Haven't reinstalled yet. Got a feeling it will be a little more difficult doing it myself. Please be sure to support car with as many jackstands as you can. Don't get yourself "squished"!
Well i got 3 jackstands(under the motor, under the cradle and one to support the tranny) , 4 thingy under each wheel and attached the motor to the roof as "backup" , som im safe