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help my Fiero has been immobilized by Madess
Started on: 10-02-2007 08:10 AM
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Report this Post10-02-2007 08:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadessClick Here to Email MadessSend a Private Message to MadessDirect Link to This Post
Ok, I am at work, and I noticed driving in the the car was a little difficult to get into gear, clutch engagement and release seemed fine, it was just getting it into gear seemed difficult.

I go back out to my car and I can't get it out of gear, no matter how much I pull or pry. when I press in the clutch the car starts to roll back as it should, but I can't get the car out of gear - thoughts?

thank you for any help.

forgot to add that it is and 86 se v6 4 speed.

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Report this Post10-02-2007 08:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianClick Here to Email PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
disconnect the cables at the transmission, move the shifter, then move the shift levers, and see if it is the cables jamming or the transmission stciking.

hope its the cables.
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Report this Post10-02-2007 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hnthompsClick Here to Email hnthompsSend a Private Message to hnthompsDirect Link to This Post
You may also want to pull the center console and see if something like a loose coin has jammed into the shift mechanism. I have seen this one before on a 4 speed Muncie I own.
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Report this Post10-02-2007 04:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DizzixxClick Here to Email DizzixxSend a Private Message to DizzixxDirect Link to This Post
I had a simillar problem with my 84 SE 4spd. It was the shifter assembly under the console, it physically broke, bought a reconditioned one from fierostore, plopped it in, and worked just fine, untill the small gear from the VSS fell into the tranny and got jammed in the linkage at which point it presented the same symptoms again. Best of luck hope that is some help.
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Report this Post10-03-2007 10:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadessClick Here to Email MadessSend a Private Message to MadessDirect Link to This Post
well I removed the shift cables from the back, and I still can't get it out of gear - any more thoughts?

If I do have to remove the tranny, do I have to pull the whole engine and transmission, or is there some way to get the tranny out without pulling the whole assembly.

thanks for any help
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Report this Post10-03-2007 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxClick Here to Email dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
if you removed the shift cables from the back...and the shifter still won't budge...wouldn't that eliminate the possibility of it being the transmission and just about ensure that it's a shifter problem?

FWIW...when I went to move my non running 86 GT about a month ago...the shifter wouldn't budge.
Turns out...when I had removed the console a couple days before,I had dumped out the ash tray(aka coin holder) accidentally.I though I got it all,but it seems a quarter had found it's way to a nook within the shifter,wedging itself in there and not allowing it to move.
Once I persuaded it to come out,with a big screwdriver and a pair of needlenose pliers...the shifter moved just like it is supposed to.

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Report this Post10-04-2007 02:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadessClick Here to Email MadessSend a Private Message to MadessDirect Link to This Post
I disconnected the shift cables in the back and tried to shift it at the transmission, and it wouldn't come out of gear.
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Report this Post10-04-2007 07:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCAFieroClick Here to Email SCCAFieroSend a Private Message to SCCAFieroDirect Link to This Post
Is the car parked on a hill? Can you get it out of gear if you rock the car a small amount to take the stress off the gears? Does the shifter flop around being disconnected or is it tight? Need more info.
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Report this Post10-08-2007 02:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadessClick Here to Email MadessSend a Private Message to MadessDirect Link to This Post
no matter what I do I can not get the shifter to move. It was not on a hill. the only way to get the whole car to move is to push the clutch in. with the clutch out, it is in gear. With the car off, I tried pulling it out of gear, no dice. I guess I can try pulling on the bracket as hard as I can.
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Report this Post10-08-2007 08:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
If you think, your going to have to pull the trans - No, you do not need to pull the engine and trans combo from the Fiero. Get the car on jackstands, in front of the cradle. Support the engine, by using a strong brace across the strut towers and good straps, to the engine hooks. ON THE DRIVERS SIDE - Remove the trans mounts from the cradle and transmission. Now remove the driver side cradle bolts and the strut tower bolts. On the pass side, just loosen the two cradle bolts. This will let the drivers side of the cradle come down far enough to let you remove the trans. Pop the axles out. Remove the bolt at the bottom of the driver's side spindle, at the ball joint and pull strut assembly and set aside, out of the way. Unbolt the trans and pull it out the drivers side. NOTE - this is just a general guide, but you get the idea. I have done this four times, on different year Fieros. It takes me four to six hours to do a complete job.

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One thind I forgot to tell you. You might need to unhook the springs, that hold the exhaust to the cradle, on the drivers side.
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Report this Post10-08-2007 11:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroWannaBeClick Here to Email FieroWannaBeSend a Private Message to FieroWannaBeDirect Link to This Post
I had the same problems with my 4speed. My transmission is doneso. After getting it in and out of gears, I completely lost rev, 1, and 2.

edit to add, i got it to shfit with a hammer, then it freely moved.
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Report this Post10-10-2007 11:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadessClick Here to Email MadessSend a Private Message to MadessDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 3.8 SC:

If you think, your going to have to pull the trans - No, you do not need to pull the engine and trans combo from the Fiero. Get the car on jackstands, in front of the cradle. Support the engine, by using a strong brace across the strut towers and good straps, to the engine hooks. ON THE DRIVERS SIDE - Remove the trans mounts from the cradle and transmission. Now remove the driver side cradle bolts and the strut tower bolts. On the pass side, just loosen the two cradle bolts. This will let the drivers side of the cradle come down far enough to let you remove the trans. Pop the axles out. Remove the bolt at the bottom of the driver's side spindle, at the ball joint and pull strut assembly and set aside, out of the way. Unbolt the trans and pull it out the drivers side. NOTE - this is just a general guide, but you get the idea. I have done this four times, on different year Fieros. It takes me four to six hours to do a complete job.

Don Z.


Have you ever done this on an 88? I have an 88 cradle mounted in my car, and there isnt as much flex in the cradle because it is solid mounted. Will it still move that much?
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