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Cost of clutch replacement? by Mr. Fiero
Started on: 09-27-2007 07:41 AM
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Report this Post09-27-2007 07:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. FieroClick Here to Email Mr. FieroSend a Private Message to Mr. FieroDirect Link to This Post
Just wondering how much it is to have a clutch done on these cars? (4 cylinder vs. 6. 5spd vs. 4 spd)
Also, how difficult is it to do yourself?
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Report this Post09-27-2007 09:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroluvClick Here to Email fieroluvSend a Private Message to fieroluvDirect Link to This Post
I believe it books at 8 hours. So whatever your mechanic charges per hour * 8 + the cost of parts * 10% markup.

Edit: how is your rust situation. If you aren't rusted too terribly bad you can do it yourself in an afternoon.

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I have heard of people getting charged $1100-$1500 for a clutch change in a Fiero. Most shops don't want to deal with them Keep in mind I heard these figures from people a bunch of years ago when I was more active in the Fiero community. I think these figures are absurd as a clutch cost somewhere over $125. As for doing it yourself We don't think it's that hard. But then again we have a rather odd way to change a clutch. We pull the engine! Laugh all you want but it is really very simple, if you have a cherry picker and an engine leveler. All you have to do it unattach everything from the engine. Take off the intake and exhaust manifolds. And the alternator and water pump. All this is for the Duke, although I think you could do the V-6 just as easy. Then simply unbolt the engine from the trans and pull the engine out. Then the engine is in a great position to work on it. Out in the open. This is also a great time to do other things either to the engine or engine bay.
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Originally posted by Mr. Fiero:

Also, how difficult is it to do yourself?


Depends on how handy you are.
Here is a ruff outline of one way to do it. Having pulled the transmission a couple times I could probalby do it in 4+ hours now.
If you don't have enough tools, jacks, blocks, stand, etc. it makes it harder.

The way I do it is:
Discconect battery.
Pull the hub nut on the drivers side while wheel on the ground. (BMF socket and tight. )
Raise the car
Pull the starter and bell cover.
Remove the rear two cradle bolts and strut nuts. (calling rusted bolts names)
You then tip the engine and all back.
Remove the left strut, control arm and hub, freeing the axle.
Support the engine.
Pull the slave cyl. (and anything else that might be in your way getting to the bell bolts)
Pull the transmission mounts, shift cables and bell housing bolts.
Split the engine transmission and move the trans as far to left as you can.
Replace the clutch working from above. Need some kind of tool to align disk to flywheel. Having two studs in top engine holes to hang transmission on to aid install.
reverse it all.

I find that without tipping the cradle you don't get enough clearance to move the trans far enough to work on the clutch.

OK so that is my 2 cents. Maybe less.

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Report this Post09-27-2007 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike MardenClick Here to Email Mike MardenSend a Private Message to Mike MardenDirect Link to This Post
I dropped the cradle completely out of the car myself. That way you can get at everything very easily. To make it easier to put back together, I didn't disconnect the wiring for each sensor - I pulled the three main connectors from the ECM, and left the wiring on the engine. If I'd had the correct clutch and pressure plate (Fiero Store shipped the wrong ones) I probably could have dropped the cradle, changed the clutch, and put it back togeather in two days. Also did a complete tune up while the cradle was out (a LOT easier to get those front plugs with engine out )

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Report this Post09-27-2007 10:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Most general garages do it for about $700.
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Report this Post09-28-2007 02:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. FieroClick Here to Email Mr. FieroSend a Private Message to Mr. FieroDirect Link to This Post
How much are the parts for an 84 Fiero clutch generally speaking? I think I could change it myself. I have found a Fiero with 34K on it for 2,000 obo with a worn clutch. Car is in other wise great shape.
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Originally posted by Mr. Fiero:

How much are the parts for an 84 Fiero clutch generally speaking? I think I could change it myself. I have found a Fiero with 34K on it for 2,000 obo with a worn clutch. Car is in other wise great shape.


It depends do you want a whole clutch kit or just a clutch disc.
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Report this Post09-28-2007 02:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for craigsfiero2007Click Here to Email craigsfiero2007Send a Private Message to craigsfiero2007Direct Link to This Post
You can get a clutch set from Advanced Auto for $102. Here is the link to the website.

http://www.partsamerica.com...PartType=244&PTSet=A

I don't know if you do EBay, but there is a clutch kit on there for $55.00, it's remanufactured. But still, it's a great deal. Plus it's free shipping, well worth the money. This one is more bang for your buck. Here is the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...eZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

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Report this Post09-28-2007 01:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dougie MurderSend a Private Message to Dougie MurderDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by The_Stickman2:

I have heard of people getting charged $1100-$1500 for a clutch change in a Fiero.



The guy I bought my Fiero from kept records of all the stuff he did and the clutch was done this past may. The bill was over $1500 but the whole thing was redone including master and slave cyl.

Thank sweet jebus i didnt have to do it

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Report this Post09-28-2007 05:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Buy a kit with disc, pressure plate and throwout bearing. Waste of time putting any single part in. If you have an early 86 or older, you may have to replace the clutch fork also. They originally had a welded together POS thats know to fall apart. The replacement has the fork and a new (different) shaft. Lube it well as it cannot be after its installed again.
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Report this Post09-28-2007 06:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hrockerClick Here to visit hrocker's HomePageClick Here to Email hrockerSend a Private Message to hrockerDirect Link to This Post
I used Ed Park's method a few years ago on an '84 4 cyl....it was really pretty easy. All the clutch parts needed were under $100.

Here's the link:

http://www.thefierofactory.com/qaeasyremoval.php
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Buy a kit with disc, pressure plate and throwout bearing. Waste of time putting any single part in. If you have an early 86 or older, you may have to replace the clutch fork also. They originally had a welded together POS thats know to fall apart. The replacement has the fork and a new (different) shaft. Lube it well as it cannot be after its installed again.


BTW did anyone ever make new and improved clutch forks? I remember someone talking about it many moons ago.
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Report this Post09-29-2007 01:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for prostreet505Click Here to Email prostreet505Send a Private Message to prostreet505Direct Link to This Post
I install clutches on fieros for 300.00 labor. Or I will charge 400.00 if I have to buy the clutch kit.
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my favorite garage wants $1000.oo to pull and split transmission case, repair ,parts included for bad gear,, the clutch replace job approximately $850.oo with top quality clutch kit,, previous owner replaced clutch ,$1100.oo ,2002.. 1999 replace with flywheel,$1000.oo I am doing myself (trans split) but for 400.oo I would gladly save this pain in the buttocks job on my carport,gotten old and dread the pull..to far to wisconsin shops charge 8 hours for this job labor 1999 one estimate $540.oo actual labor cost $544.oo,,..2002 labor estimate $400.oo actual cost $500.oo the parts bill is different for each job,first replace slave & flywheel... I also have bill for clutch job the labor was only $350.oo on my carport with heavily experienced but crippled mechanic,12 hours to 16 with attention to detail and other repair,,not one exhaust bolt will turn on front,,frozen solid,oh joy I am so happy with more repair work I,ve got the correct aim , I,ve run out of amunition

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Report this Post10-01-2007 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. FieroClick Here to Email Mr. FieroSend a Private Message to Mr. FieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by prostreet505:

I install clutches on fieros for 300.00 labor. Or I will charge 400.00 if I have to buy the clutch kit.


Problem is a tow to Milwaukee would be expensive as hell from Chicago...
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Originally posted by Mr. Fiero:


Problem is a tow to Milwaukee would be expensive as hell from Chicago...


Another PFF member just had his car towed to me from Chicago and it cost him 300.00. So yes it can get expensive for towing
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Report this Post10-01-2007 11:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
find out what the grace period for AAA coverage is. You can get 3 tows a year for cheap.
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