ok here lately my car has been dying whenever I put it in nuetral to slow down. but once I give it gas it will be ok. Well I was taking off from a stop sign today and it kinda spuddered then died and now it won't start at all!! My father used a spark tester to see if it was getting fire and he said it wasn't but the distributor was turning, so I replaced the cap, rotor button and coil. And still nothing!! Any ideas? Also how do I run the codes on it?
ok here lately my car has been dying whenever I put it in nuetral to slow down. but once I give it gas it will be ok. Well I was taking off from a stop sign today and it kinda spuddered then died and now it won't start at all!! My father used a spark tester to see if it was getting fire and he said it wasn't but the distributor was turning, so I replaced the cap, rotor button and coil. And still nothing!! Any ideas? Also how do I run the codes on it?
Ignition module, it might not set a code for this. Ground terminals A and B to each other and turn the ignition on. Codes are flashed in two parts with an extended pause between the first and second number. The first code should be 12 which is normal.
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James Bond 007 Member
Posts: 8868 From: California.U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2002
The module is inside of the distributor under the rotor cap. The two plugs on the side of the distributor that come from the harness/coil are the module. Unplug those two plugs, pull the cap and rotor, remove the two screws holding the module down (5.5mm or 6mm), carefully unplug the plug on the back of the module that goes to the pickup coil...
Clean the mounting area thoroughly. Mount new module using fresh thermal paste that comes with new module. Plug all 3 plugs back in, replace rotor, and then replace cap being careful not to pinch the two pickup coil wires in between the cap and distributor.
Start car. Drive. Enjoy.
The car does not have a coil "pack". It only has a coil. The coil is mounted next to the distributor.
Here is a shot of the V6 dist. You can see one of the 2 bolts holding the ignition module in place. You can also see the wires that connect the back of the IM to the pickup coil (The round thing with white tape around it). Take your IM to a place like Autozone or Advance and have them test it 2 or 3 times to get it hot.
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James Bond 007 Member
Posts: 8868 From: California.U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2002
It does not need to be.. The Pickup coil requires that the distributor be pulled out and then completely disassembled.
I am not questioning you, but any mechanic that tells me that the pickup coil needs to be changed when the module gets changed is only in it for the money.
The pickup coil is solid state, one continuous wire wrapped around the metal framework for the pickup coil. It CAN fail, but the chances of it happening are slim to none, and usually happens due to corrosion on the metal points of the coil framework, or someone pinching the wires or damaging the plug.
You really should change the pickup coil when you replace the module if it's as old (very), it's preventive maintenance and much more convenient to do on schedule as opposed to necessity after stalling out. Have Autozone check your module but don't dare let them sell you a replacement. I've learned my lesson and I would take the OE module regardless of the choices available even if it's high performance.
[This message has been edited by Joseph Upson (edited 09-25-2007).]
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Synthesis Member
Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
You really should change the pickup coil when you replace the module if it's as old (very), it's preventive maintenance and much more convenient to do on schedule as opposed to necessity after stalling out. Have Autozone check your module but don't dare let them sell you a replacement. I've learned my lesson and I would take the OE module regardless of the choices available even if it's high performance.
I can agree with you and James Bond on that, that if you have a distributor that is original and has never been rebuilt, it would make sense to replace the Pickup coil at that time. But it does not need to be done every time the module is done. And no, don't buy an Autozone module. GM modules are top notch. Buy one of them and put it in, and buy a cheap one to get you home or to the next dealer in the event of failure.
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Sep 26th, 2007
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Posts: 202 From: Hodgenville, ky, USA Registered: Aug 2007