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Trunk release not working ... by Zoom88
Started on: 07-19-2006 07:05 PM
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Report this Post07-19-2006 07:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Zoom88Click Here to visit Zoom88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Zoom88Direct Link to This Post
What circuit is the trunk release on ?
I push the button and nothing..... doesn't seem to be getting power to the solenoid.
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Report this Post07-19-2006 07:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIERODirect Link to This Post
Pull up the ebrake. Or it could be the contact switch at the base of the lever. Or it could be a few hundred other things. Try pulling the ebrake handle all the way up since it's real easy to do. I think it's supposed to be up for the trunk to release. It has to be in my 87GT, but not in my 88.

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Report this Post07-19-2006 07:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rottenSend a Private Message to rottenDirect Link to This Post
Could be the button itself, the little peg in their that moves the switch breaks real easy if someone pushes it the wrong direction.
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Report this Post07-19-2006 09:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WhuffoClick Here to visit Whuffo's HomePageSend a Private Message to WhuffoDirect Link to This Post
There's an interlock on the trunk release. If the key is on: automatic transmission must be in park or neutral, manual transmission must have the parking brake applied.

If the key is off, then the release works no matter what. There's three components to the trunk release; the switch on the dashboard, the trunk release relay, and the release solenoid mounted on the trunk latch. Some simple tests with a multimeter should reveal the problem very quickly.
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Report this Post07-19-2006 09:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
In the 85 book it goes like this.
The power comes from the
Ctsy/Lid Fuse 20 amp. -> Trunk release switch -|> Trunk relay -> Trunk solenoid. -> ground.
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.................................................................--Relay coil -> inline diode -> Parking brake switch-> ground.


I would image it would be changed to the park/N switch in later models.

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Report this Post07-19-2006 10:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Zoom88:

What circuit is the trunk release on ?
I push the button and nothing..... doesn't seem to be getting power to the solenoid.


i agree with everything said so far.

also please tell us what year.
your user name has 88 in it but that doesn't mean much
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Report this Post07-19-2006 10:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Zoom88Click Here to visit Zoom88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Zoom88Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:


i agree with everything said so far.

also please tell us what year.
your user name has 88 in it but that doesn't mean much



Sorry, I have an 88 Formula
Thanks everyone, I have located all the components that where list and will check them out.
Think I will start with the relay ...

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Report this Post07-19-2006 10:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
The biggest problem with the trunk release is the ground. It gets it ground through the latch. If the latch is loose then it gets a bad ground.
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Report this Post07-20-2006 08:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Did it used to work? When did it quit?

You can test the solenoid with jumper cables and a screwdriver. Connect the solenoid latch to the engine block with one cable, connect the other cable to positive on the battery, and the other end of the positive cable to the screwdriver, use the tip of the screwdriver to probe the terminal inside the end of the solenoid. If you get a good solid release then use a test light on the wire at the solenoid to ground and see if it lights when someone pushes the trunk release. If not then you have a wiring problem.

Can you hear the relay click? It's under the right side instrument pod.

When you push the switch, will it move full up and down? If it moves both directions fully then the switch is broken.

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Report this Post07-20-2006 09:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for moleman_in_a_FieroGTSend a Private Message to moleman_in_a_FieroGTDirect Link to This Post
Then mine's broken. Are you supposed to push the button up or down?
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Report this Post07-20-2006 09:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Only up.
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Report this Post07-20-2006 09:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by moleman_in_a_FieroGT:
Then mine's broken. Are you supposed to push the button up or down?

Just push it towards the top of the of the switch--which I guess would be up.

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Report this Post07-20-2006 09:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post

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Forgot, when 3 of mine went out--I took off the solenoid at the latch assembley--or what ever that thing is called, noticed alot of white corrosion on them--scuffed with 400 grit, and they where back to new, I have to do this (depending on driving time) as they sit alot--about once every couple to three years
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Report this Post07-20-2006 01:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Dodgerunner:

Only up.


Yep, this is a perfect case of a design function defect. The little lit symbol of a trunk makes you think you should push that part of the rocker to release the trunk, when in fact you must push the opposite direction. Many trunk switches get broken because of this. GM should have put the symbol on the same side to push.

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Report this Post07-20-2006 04:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Zoom88Click Here to visit Zoom88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Zoom88Direct Link to This Post
Ok, I got it working...it was the relay that is up under the dash by the steering column.
Thanks everyone for the help !!!!

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Originally posted by Whuffo:

There's an interlock on the trunk release. If the key is on: automatic transmission must be in park or neutral, manual transmission must have the parking brake applied.

If the key is off, then the release works no matter what. There's three components to the trunk release; the switch on the dashboard, the trunk release relay, and the release solenoid mounted on the trunk latch. Some simple tests with a multimeter should reveal the problem very quickly.


It should be noted that on cars that have been converted from auto to manual, The decklid release will ONLY work if the cluch is pushed in if you retained the neutral safety feature.
This is because the auto trans cars use the neutral safety switch alone (not the E-brake) for the decklid release, so if you hook the neutral safety switch to the clutch pedal for starting only when the clutch pedal is depressed, Then the decklid release will also only work then.
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Report this Post07-21-2006 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Direct Link to This Post
My deck-lid (power trunk) stopped working when I had a mechanic replace the front e-brake cable. I don't know if this has any "bearing" on why it doesn't funtion anymore. The reason I ask is because when the switch (button) is pushed, my e-brake warning light comes on as long as my finger lets off the button.

I am thinking that the shop mechanic forgot put in the wire that plugs into the e-brake switch at the handle.

Does this make any sense??

Thanks for the help !!

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Report this Post07-22-2006 11:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Direct Link to This Post
BUMP...

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Report this Post07-22-2006 12:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for moleman_in_a_FieroGTSend a Private Message to moleman_in_a_FieroGTDirect Link to This Post
It could be that he forgot to put the parking brake sensor back in (it's a block of copper and plastic), or perhaps he didn't plug it in. Or possibly the warning light comes on to prompt you to apply the e-brake. Of course, since my Fiero is auto and has no battery, I can't test this.

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