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help with runing of car by fiero1969
Started on: 05-19-2006 07:43 AM
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Report this Post05-19-2006 07:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero1969Send a Private Message to fiero1969Direct Link to This Post
2.8 exaust manafolds get cherry red and it dont run for crap wont idle or rev any ideas guys

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Report this Post05-19-2006 07:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
Try checking the iac, tps, vacum leaks, in hoses & exhaust manifolds before the 02, fuel pressure, cts, mat, map, 02 sensor, is the car coding anything? The manifolds do get red, they may get there a little quicker if you have a vac leak or high idle--but they do glow..
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Report this Post05-19-2006 07:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero1969Send a Private Message to fiero1969Direct Link to This Post
ive noticed that the fuel pressure is only there when your turning it over but if your not turning it over then there is no pressure but i cant get no rpm out of it at all and she pops iac ive tryed replaceing it and its the same
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Report this Post05-19-2006 08:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
Do you hear the fuel pump for 2-4 seconds with key *only* on ? ?

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Did you or anyone else try to set the ignition timing? If so, they may have messed it up.
You need to unscrew the cover plate around the cigarette lighter and ground out the diagnostic pin of the connector inside. Then you can check/set the ignition timing. If you don't the timing will be 30 degrees off or so, enough to make the engine idle poorly and not run above that.
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Report this Post05-19-2006 08:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero1969Send a Private Message to fiero1969Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 3800superfast:

Do you hear the fuel pump for 2-4 seconds with key *only* on ?


yes it comes on
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keep the ideas comeing i have to be at work i will be back later
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Report this Post05-19-2006 09:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
Do you still have the factory installed stop idle screw cap on the top of the T.B., if not that may be causing idle problems too .
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Report this Post05-19-2006 10:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero_FreakDirect Link to This Post
If your FP checks out I'd almost garantee you it's your catalatic converter. It's clogged. I've had this happen twice. If you can't get it replaced right away, at least cut out the cat and put a test pipe in. You can verify by taking it to midas or something and have them do a backpressure test through your o2 sensor bung.

Let us know what works out.

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Report this Post05-19-2006 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero1969Send a Private Message to fiero1969Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fiero_Freak:

If your FP checks out I'd almost garantee you it's your catalatic converter. It's clogged. I've had this happen twice. If you can't get it replaced right away, at least cut out the cat and put a test pipe in. You can verify by taking it to midas or something and have them do a backpressure test through your o2 sensor bung.

Let us know what works out.


lol no cat took out 2 years ago
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Originally posted by Jax184:

Did you or anyone else try to set the ignition timing? If so, they may have messed it up.
You need to unscrew the cover plate around the cigarette lighter and ground out the diagnostic pin of the connector inside. Then you can check/set the ignition timing. If you don't the timing will be 30 degrees off or so, enough to make the engine idle poorly and not run above that.


i will try this when i get home.......thanks to all for your input on this i was getting ready to take my baby to the heeep

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Report this Post05-20-2006 07:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
If it is leaning out, then you really should be looking at some scans of the computer to see what the sensors are telling the ecu. Look into getting a laptop or somthing that can scan the engine data.
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Originally posted by fiero1969:

i was getting ready to take my baby to the heeep



There is still time... I got a nice spot for it in my yard...

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Report this Post05-21-2006 01:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by darkhorizon:

If it is leaning out, then you really should be looking at some scans of the computer to see what the sensors are telling the ecu. Look into getting a laptop or somthing that can scan the engine data.



This is a real good idea, you can get a cable here or from strat110 (memeber) or build one.

www.aldlcable.com

http://winaldl.joby.se/ for your tuning free software
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Report this Post05-22-2006 08:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero1969Send a Private Message to fiero1969Direct Link to This Post
it jumped time so now i got a mess to deal with and i dont have time so now it sits
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Report this Post05-22-2006 08:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
Lift out the distributor, give it a turn to line up with # 1 cylinder @ TDC and have the rotor under the # 1 pole on your dis cap--worth a try...
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