what 60 degree motors (that have been swaped into a fiero) can be carb other than the 3.4 that came in the f body? when i say can be - i mean there is already a kit for it so no fab for an intake.

and of all those motors (excluding the 3.8 sc) which has the most performance parts/ aftermarket?

You can install the Edelbrock intake and carb on any 60* V-6 (2.8L, 3.1L or 3.4L) pushrod engine that has the cast iron heads.
The aftermarket parts are all the same for the iron headed 60* pushrod engines as well.
You can make a 2.8L into a 3.1L just by installing the 3.1L crank and the pistons. All aftermarket cams will fit all 3 size engines. The Fiero cast iron heads are the exact same heads used on the 3.1L and 3.4L engines with cast iron heads.

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so is that the only one?

does that have a decent aftermarket? ( i got a closer look at the dsm swap and i am thinking no -... it looks liek that one of the mounts would even rip the frame if he oes no tre work it- and he need to at least run a fan on that ic)

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quote Originally posted by vega: so is that the only one? does that have a decent aftermarket? ( i got a closer look at the dsm swap and i am thinking no -... it looks liek that one of the mounts would even rip the frame if he oes no tre work it- and he need to at least run a fan on that ic)

Is what the only one?
If you are interested in which engines have a large aftermarket, The 3.8L/3800 V-6's and the Chevy small block V-8 are near/at the top of the list.
The 4.3L V-6 has some as well as the 60* V-6's listed above.
The Chevy small block V-8's have one of the largest aftermarket support.
It would be better to give us an idea what it is you want to do.

well if there is a carb setup for the 3.8 of any year range would it not match up to any year range of the 3.8?

if so was there a carb intake setup EVER for the 3.8? i mean did they not have a 3.8 back in the 70's?

buick had a 231 or a 3.8 in 1975 they had them in centrys and regals and ect.

chevy had the 231 in 1978 in malibus and monzas ect.

oldsmobile had one 231 in there starfires starting out in 1975 and continunted for cars later in years.

pontiac started out in 1976 with their pontiac sunbird with the 231.

So all i am saying unless it was mechanical fuel injection like the vettes... it was carburated. so would that carborator setup not work with the later years of 3.8? Or do i have my head up my arse....

and with that. would the carborator setup (from edelbrock) not only work with the pushrod 3.4 but also the dohc 3.4?

stop making sense

you are WAY overthinking this.

back to the front - the 2.8, 3.1 & 3.4 IRON head pushrod motors can be EASILY carb'd
again: IRON headed.
the dohc & TDC 3.4 are aluminum headed. so, no, not so easy

the 3.8 is a completely different family of motors. the 2.8/3.1/3.4 are 60 degree V 6's - in that the V shape is at 60 degrees
the 3.8 is a 90 degree V. everything is different. I myself dont know a whole lot about the family of motors, but I expect, like the 60*V6's, the older models are easier to carb. the easiest way to find out is to goto Jegs or Summit, and look for an Edelbrock intake manifold for the motor in question. this is the key to carb'ing - something to bolt the carb to.

I understand what you are saying with the aluminum heads i guess... you are saying that motors with aluminum heads can't be carbed???? what about the 350 was there a special intake for the aluminum headed or something????

Anyhow if there is not many mods for then i would like to go to 3.8 seeing that Oreif had said there is more performance parts for them. That is mostly what i am looking for. I am not a big fan of sc just because it is not so much on the fly adhjustment as a turbo would be. That is why i am asking about carborators i would rather have a carbed turbo than a fuel injected turbo becaues of the ease of tuning it for ME.

so what i am saying now what years of the 231/3.8 did not have aluminum heads.. so they can be carborated. i assume the first gen with the turbo regals and such had carbs... if possible i would like to use that engine with a 4t60e transmition OR a highly modified thm125c.

Ok? so what 3.8s other than the 77 and past odd fire 231s can be carbed?

3.8L engines ran carbs up until 1984. (depends on vehicle)
The 1978 thru 1983 Regal T-Types were 3.8L turbo/carb set-ups.
If you want to go with a 3.8L turbo/carb set-up, This would be the years to search for information.
A lot of information can be found on the Buick Forums.
http://www.t6p.com/forums/
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11

And this link has a lot of info like part numbers and links to parts:
http://home.flash.net/~rjgeorge/

As for the aluminum heads vs. carb, This is only with respect to the 2.8L, 3.1L, and 3.4L 60* V-6 engines. Other V-6's (3.8L, 4.3L, etc.) and V-8's can have aluminum heads and carbs because the parts are available (either aftermarket or stock.)

Not sure if the RWD 3.8L can bolt up to FWD transaxles. It all depends on the engines bolt pattern.

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