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3.1 Stroker, need simple answers by DustoneGT
Started on: 11-28-2004 03:33 PM
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Report this Post11-28-2004 03:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DustoneGTSend a Private Message to DustoneGTDirect Link to This Post
OK, I've got a 2.8 and a getrag sitting outside.
Smokes, bad rings most likely so a really good candidate
for a rebuild.
So If I am going to rebuild it I might as well pep it up a bit...

So is all I need the 3.1 crank to convert up to 3.1, or will I need
rods/pistons as well....
And I am planning on buying new pistons anyway so should I
buy them for the 2.8 or for the 3.1 motor?

And I dont want 13:1 compression either LOL!

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Report this Post11-28-2004 03:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
You need a 3.1 crank, flywheel that is neutrally ballanced (off an 88) and pistons to a 3.1 iron head engine. Everything else off the 2.8 stays.
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Report this Post11-28-2004 03:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.1LGTSend a Private Message to 3.1LGTDirect Link to This Post
Last year I pepped my 2.8 from the stock 2.8 to a 3.2 with a simple .030" bore job and a 3.1 stroker kit from ARI (www.engine-parts.com ) They have a complete Set to build your 3.1 Stroker for about $495. It includes, rods, pistons, rings, bearings, crank and even a new crank key for your harmonic balancer and crank gear as well as everything else needed. Its a complete kit and I was very happy with the install and help I received. If this is the route you are planning on I have a complete engine available for sale that was just built last year. Its a nice bump in power, but in all actuality you'll probably want more power. Especially once you compare the price of the parts and what not to the cost of a larger engine.
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Report this Post11-28-2004 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Ya Id agree, for a little bit more you can go to 3.4 or 4.3 and be a lot happier.
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Report this Post11-28-2004 11:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DustoneGTSend a Private Message to DustoneGTDirect Link to This Post
So which rods are usable? 2.8 or are the 3.1 rods required?
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Report this Post11-28-2004 11:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by DustoneGT:

So which rods are usable? 2.8 or are the 3.1 rods required?

the 2.8 and 3.1 use the same rods.

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Report this Post11-28-2004 11:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pokeyfieroClick Here to visit pokeyfiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to pokeyfieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Ya Id agree, for a little bit more you can go to 3.4 or 4.3 and be a lot happier.

What the deal with the 4.3?
Thats a totolly different block.
Or are you saying that a 3.4 can be bored to 4.3.
If so what is the combo to do that cause I have a 3.4 block from a 95 firebird in my car now and it needs to be redone.

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Report this Post11-28-2004 11:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
The 4.3 V6 is a totally different engine than the 2.8. Since the 4.3 is basically a Chevy small block with a middle cylinder removed on each side, it would require an Archie kit with modifications in order to fit one into a Fiero.

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Report this Post11-29-2004 12:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KekipiSend a Private Message to KekipiDirect Link to This Post
I got a wrecked 93 Centry with a 60,000 mi. 3300 and 4-speed Auto. The 3300 is a 90 deg. like the 4.3 and 3800. Bolts up relativly easy, Trans port axle on one side, Beretta axle on the other.
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Report this Post11-29-2004 12:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KekipiSend a Private Message to KekipiDirect Link to This Post

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If I was to rebuild like 3.1LGT it would cost $2000.00.
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Report this Post11-29-2004 01:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.1LGTSend a Private Message to 3.1LGTDirect Link to This Post
Kekipi - Thats about what it cost me to rebuild mine once you figure the cost or the machine work, cam, new internals all around and powdercoating. 2000 too much for something I am not completely happy with. But thats the name of the game I guess. Live and learn. Hopefully the new LS1 heads and block will change my mind...

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Report this Post11-29-2004 09:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Electrathon:

You need a 3.1 crank, flywheel that is neutrally ballanced (off an 88) and pistons to a 3.1 iron head engine. Everything else off the 2.8 stays.

 
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Originally posted by Kekipi:
If I was to rebuild like 3.1LGT it would cost $2000.00.

been there - done that - 3.1 crank, '88 flywheel, 3.1 Camaro Hypereutectic pistons, machining, cam, etc....$2000+
with the auto trans, it did 16.1 in the 1/4 mile.

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Report this Post11-29-2004 10:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JazzMan:

The 4.3 V6 is a totally different engine than the 2.8. Since the 4.3 is basically a Chevy small block with a middle cylinder removed on each side, it would require an Archie kit with modifications in order to fit one into a Fiero.

JazzMan

I have a 3.1. I know lots here have done a 3.4 swap. Ive never checked into it very much but I thought there were some guys here with 4.3s (them being the same). Guess I was wrong if there different.

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