PONTIAC - General Motors' new Gen IV 5300 5.3L V-8 (LS4) engine debuts in the 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, making it the first V-8 offered in a Grand Prix since 1987. It also marks the first time since the small-block was introduced 50 years ago that it has been offered in a front-wheel-drive car.
Engineered specifically for front-drive layouts, the 5300 V-8 is estimated to produce 290 horsepower and 325 lb.-ft. of torque. It incorporates Displacement on Demand technology (DOD), which helps the vehicle realize fuel economy gains of up to 12 percent per the EPA federal fuel economy test procedures. It does this by seamlessly alternating between eight- and four-cylinder operation.
When matched with the inherent smoothness and torque of the V-8 configuration, the 5300 V-8 delivers strong performance - 90 percent of torque is available between 1500 rpm and 5200 rpm - and surprising economy. It's a combination most competitors' V-6 offerings can't match.
"Over 50 years, the small-block V-8 has proven itself more adaptable than anyone could have imagined," said Dave Muscaro, assistant chief engineer of small-block V-8 for passenger cars. "The small-block family has a tradition dating back to 1955 in which an excellent design makes possible the additions of new technology. The Displacement on Demand-capable 5300 V-8 is a fine example of that tradition."
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The all-aluminum 5300 V-8 is the third displacement offering of the Gen IV small-block, which was introduced in the 2005 Chevrolet SSR, GTO and Corvette, as well as several 2005 GM SUVs. The 5300 V-8 shares a common architecture with these other versions, including a deep-skirt block, six-bolt cross-bolted main bearing caps, and structural oil pan, but is modified to accommodate the "east-west" mounting position of the Grand Prix's front-wheel-drive chassis.
To fit the "sideways" positioning in the Grand Prix, several changes were made to shorten the engine's overall length. The crankshaft was shortened by 13 mm - 3 mm at the rear and 10 mm at the front - and the entire accessory drive system was designed to reduce space. The water pump and all other accessories, including the power steering pump, are driven on a single-belt drive system - the longest drive system in a GM vehicle.
Engineers devised an elongated water pump manifold, which features a remote-mounted pump that feeds the stock Gen IV coolant passages via the unique manifold. The design allowed the drive system to be mounted closer to the engine block. Because of the 5300 V-8's relatively low inertia, which can be up to 50 percent less at the crankshaft damper than a 6.0L V-8, a hydraulic belt tensioner was used instead of a conventional rotary tensioner.
Unique position
The sideways position of the 5300 V-8 required revisions to the lubrication system. Engineers tested 5300 V-8 equipped test vehicles on racetracks, subjecting them to high-load turns that guided the development of special oil pan baffles that ensure lubrication during cornering. In addition, because Gen IV engines don't have a block-mounted oil filter - it's located on the oil pan - the 5300 V-8's filter offers easy access.
The GM Oil Life System oil-change indicator system is standard, which can reduce the frequency of oil changes during the engine's operating life. With the system, the engine control module (ECM) records cumulative data on a number of variables, including engine rpm, temperature, load or rpm variance and length of operation at any given load and temperature. Using this information, the system calculates oil degradation and recommends an oil change when the oil is near the end of its useful life - in other words, when an oil change is actually needed.
Other 5300 V-8 features include:
Lightweight, three-piece friction-welded composite intake manifold Aluminum high-flow cylinder heads similar to 6.0L V-8 (LS2) Aluminum engine block with cross-bolted main bearing caps Full-floating pistons Electronic throttle control integrated with a new engine controller 10.0:1 compression ratio for fuel-efficient performance Unique camshaft designed for DOD technology GM Oil Life System to minimize required oil changes Because of the front-drive layout, the 5300 V-8's exhaust manifold routing includes two manifolds joined by a single crossover pipe, which connect to a single underbody catalytic converter. The crossover pipe allows the use of a single oxygen sensor, unlike north/south V-8 applications that have two oxygen sensors.
Displacement on Demand technology
GM's Displacement on Demand technology debuted in 2005 GM extended midsize SUVs equipped with the Vortec 5.3L V-8 (LH6) engine. With the 5300 V-8 (LS4), DOD technology enables fuel economy gains of up to 12 percent in certain driving conditions by reducing the number of cylinders engaged in the combustion process. A sophisticated, next-generation engine controller determines when to deactivate cylinders, allowing the engine to maintain vehicle speed in lighter-load conditions such as highway cruising. When the cylinders are deactivated, the engine effectively operates as a V-4, with alternate cylinders on each cylinder bank disabled. The engine returns to V-8 mode the instant the controller determines the vehicle speed or load requires additional power. The process is seamless and virtually imperceptible.
"There's nothing like the satisfying feel of a V-8 engine and the 5300 V-8 provides a level of performance rarely available in competitors' vehicles," said Muscaro. "But when all eight cylinders aren't required to maintain performance, DOD technology effectively turns the engine into a more efficient V-4."
Just thought I would pass it along.
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jeffndebrus Member
Posts: 2772 From: Jacksonville, Fl- usa Registered: Aug 2001
Well, this is history in the making.---front wheel drive v-8's. hmmmm---seems like an interesting idea. I wonder how they will handle traction control. I hate the way a front wheel drive feels when it is spinning and laying rubber. It just does not feel right! But that's you and me--------the new generation of young drivers may not know anything different.
Since I won't have the money for one anyway-I'm glad my v-8 and 4t60e are in the back.
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matchmade Member
Posts: 435 From: Nashville,TN USA Registered: Sep 2004
Well it would make an interesting swap. At least we would now have a transaxle with an SBC bolt pattern. An aluminum 327 sounds great as well. Sounds like mechanically it would slide into a Fiero, Just not sure how the DOD system and all the other electronics would work.
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Posts: 2326 From: Florida Keys Registered: Oct 2003
At least we would now have a transaxle with an SBC bolt pattern.
I don't think it will. The article stated that the block and crank where modified for traverse mounting, that would seem to indicate that it has the standard GM front wheel drive bolt patern.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Trans possibly, but a no on the motor. The one Loyde has is an LS1, 5.7 where Ryan is discussing the 5.3.
Totally different animals, but both would make killer swaps none the less.
Not really. The 5.3 and 5.7 LS1 are basically the exact same engine, just different displacement. If the tranny works for the 5.3, it'll work on the LS1, LS6 and LS2. (assuming of course this isn't a special FWD bolt pattern block - that's the kicker)
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Posts: 3652 From: Grand Junction Colorado Registered: Mar 2003
Originally posted by Formula88: Not really. The 5.3 and 5.7 LS1 are basically the exact same engine, just different displacement. If the tranny works for the 5.3, it'll work on the LS1, LS6 and LS2. (assuming of course this isn't a special FWD bolt pattern block - that's the kicker)
Yea, I should have said just "different" animals...not "totally" different.
Where does the line for “different”, and “totally different” lie…in displacement + bell pattern = Different, but displacement + bell pattern + the use of 5/3o required over 5/5o = “totally different?” Play on words and nit picking if you want to get into it.
That aside, Loyde still has the 5.7, not the 5.3 as though by the original post.
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Flyguyeddy Member
Posts: 568 From: pekin, Il USA Registered: Dec 2003
Yea, but if the dome light burns out, the SES light is gonna come on, and the eninge will drop into limp in mode. Im not a hard core carb guy, but these cars are getting rediculous, lol.
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tesmith66 Member
Posts: 7355 From: Jerseyville, IL Registered: Sep 2001
"It also marks the first time since the small-block was introduced 50 years ago that it has been offered in a front-wheel-drive car."
Not to split hairs here, but what does this engine have in common with the original SBC other than a 90 degree cylinder bank angle, a bunch of pushrods, and a similar (but not identical) tranny bolt pattern? I thought it was a "cleen sheet of paper".
I don't think there's a single casting that even looks like the original SBC. [/rant]
Having said all of that, this is going to make one hell of a swap. I *am* curious as to what bolt pattern the tranny and block will have. Unless it's something completely new, it will have to be a good thing, either way.
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eatoninside Member
Posts: 719 From: Tremonton, UT Registered: Aug 2003
I took a pic of the GXP Grand Prix when I was at SEMA last week. I should have gotten some pics of the engine, but I didn't.
Here is what was on the stand by the car:
I tried to post a pic of the car, but PIP wasn't working all the sudden. I will try later.
I talked to a Pontiac representative about the car. They are shooting for a base MSRP of around 30k and they aren't sure if they are going to make it standard with cloth seats or leather seats yet. Inside, the car was the same as your regular Grand Prix. nothing special like the Bonneville GXP is.
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Will Member
Posts: 14278 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
The block is all that's necessary... If it's the std FWD pattern, you could bolt up the forthcoming G6 GTP 6 speed manual... have the block resleeved and get a stroker crank made... 7.0 litre LS1 Fiero with 6 speed
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Howard_Sacks Member
Posts: 1871 From: Cherry Hill, NJ Registered: Apr 2001
sounds like archie is going to have some business problems soon
Why's that? The 3800, 4.9, 3.4 pushrod and DOHC, and Northstar all have the FWD bolt pattern - yet there are business that do swaps for them. If anything, this will just open up more options to Archie's customers.
But if it makes you and Howard happy, think what you will.
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jeffndebrus Member
Posts: 2772 From: Jacksonville, Fl- usa Registered: Aug 2001
Here is the pic of the one at SEMA..... Very cool..... I also attended a short block seminar on the history and technology with the short block. Very interesting info I got out of that one.
ider wheels and tires up front? (yes, I know it's FWD, but I'm thinking that's gonna look silly)
Actually, it's not too bad... Gives it a kind of bulldog look. Makes it handle better because of the horrible weight distribution, too.
------------------ Turn the key and feel the engine shake the whole car with its lope; Plant the gas pedal and feel in your chest neither a shriek nor a wail but a bellowing roar; Lift and be pushed into the harness by compression braking that only comes from the biggest cylinders while listening to music of pops and gurgles. Know that you are driving an American V8. There are finer engines made, but none of them are this cool.
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Soelasca Member
Posts: 455 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Registered: Sep 2004
Well, now I"m going to have to do some research as to how I can get my hands on one of these transmissions and how easy it's gonna be to put into a fiero. I have a 6.0L waiting to be rebuilt.............. *dreamin* :