Ok, we have the 4.9/4t60e in but have not been able to find the correct passenger side axle. I see where many people have had the same problem. We need an answer from someone who has this setup--not a lot of hearsay and rhetoric please. We have already tried the passenger side pont 6000-light duty brakes-no abs----this axle appears to be about an inch too long. Does anyone know for sure which one fits and works?? Thank you Jeff
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PBJ Member
Posts: 4167 From: London, On., Canada Registered: Jan 2001
do you have to dissasemble this axle? because we bought a fiero lhs manual tranny axle and it had a female end on it---it should be male---so we returned that one and got a pont 6000 passenger side---it's too long. Thanks for your help
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jeffndebrus Member
Posts: 2772 From: Jacksonville, Fl- usa Registered: Aug 2001
call the other Autozone and have them llok a the Fiero Manual Axle and see if it is Male or Female. 812 East State Road 434 Longwood, FL 32750 (407) 830-5237
It doesn't matter if the part that plugs into the tranny is male or female because on the driver side it will have a female on the end witch is the wrong thing I believe that is the part we change for the caddy tripod.... The only thing is we need to make sure the manuel fiero tripod mount axle is the same size as the caddy.
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jeffndebrus Member
Posts: 2772 From: Jacksonville, Fl- usa Registered: Aug 2001
It doesn't matter if the part that plugs into the tranny is male or female because on the driver side it will have a female on the end witch is the wrong thing I believe that is the part we change for the caddy tripod.... The only thing is we need to make sure the manuel fiero tripod mount axle is the same size as the caddy.
Well then we need to find the lock ring I sent flying across the garage. it is blue color and went flying twords the Oven.
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KurtAKX Member
Posts: 4008 From: West Bloomfield, MI Registered: Feb 2002
We just finished doing the 3100/4T60E, and if you are sure of these facts: a) You have the transmission in the same left to right orientation as factory (referencing the bellhousing face) b) You have the 4T60E (not the 4T440 or 4T65E) c) You are using an 84-87 cradle then you can use what we did:
Passenger's (RIGHT-HAND!) side 1994 Grand Prix 4T60E axle and inner joint with a 1994 Beretta 4T60E outer joint with the ABS ring knocked off. The GP axle itself will work with the Beretta boot and has the same spline as the Beretta's joint. This setup is the perfect length (what GM would have done) and works great (as attested to by the two 215mm wide patches of sod which were swiftly removed from Andy's sister's yard by the recently completed conversion.)
Kurt
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Posts: 8872 From: California.U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2002
Sounds like you need a left axle on the right (pasenger side).For further reading try here, and scroll down to the bottom of the web page when you get there (as PBJ says). http://www.fieroaddiction.com/4T60a.html
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KurtAKX Member
Posts: 4008 From: West Bloomfield, MI Registered: Feb 2002
hmmmm---this seems to make perfect sense the more I think about it lhs pont 6000 axle and a lhs manual fiero axle----both lhs axles--then of course one of them will have the wrong end on it. SO what is the easiest fix for this problem?? Jeff
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Originally posted by jeffndebrus:
since we are using left hand side axles on both sides---it would make sense that one of them turns out to have the wrong end on it---
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jeffndebrus Member
Posts: 2772 From: Jacksonville, Fl- usa Registered: Aug 2001
Just got off the phone with the guy at Autozone He swears up down and sideways that the lhs (drivers side) axle for a manual tran fiero autozone part number 8437 has a female end on it's tripot. And that is what the sold us and we returned. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
Question...is the 4T60E in the same (laterally) location as the TH-125? I seem to recall on the earlier cradles (pre-88) the 4T60E has to be mounted slightly to the left...
Okay, here's what I did. I used the FACTORY driver's side axle from my 86GT...it HAS to be the FACTORY axle...any OEM (8437) WILL NOT WORK...believe me...it's too short!!! Here's how I found out...I had everything together and running great when I accidentally nicked the inner cv boot! aarrgghhh! I thought that i had better replace the whole axle since it was the original axle...went to AutoZone and picked up part#8437...way too short. Got my core back (luckily) and took it to get rebuilt...bad move...they replaced the shaft too...the used the wrong length...too short!! aaarrrgghhh!! Took it back and told them that they shortened the axle by about 3/4"...they said they never replaced the shaft...WRONG...I showed them pics of the axle before I took it to them and showed that the new shaft had score marks on it where mine had none. Anyway, I left there and took it to a guy who rebuilt the axle putting back the 3/4" length (he used a Monte Carlo??) shaft and Voila! Success, finally. I would try to find a factory 84-86 driver's side manual trans. axle and have it rebuilt to the same exact specs and DON'T let them swap the shaft!!! Good Luck!
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Kento Member
Posts: 4218 From: Beautifull Winston Salem NC Registered: Jun 2003
Update and Resolution!!!! AutoBozone Had not 1 but 2 Mis-boxed Axles. Stopped at two competitors And WOW!! they were corect, Went to AZ and guess what, DOH!! Call otehr store and they have the right one!!! Man I cant really blame the counter guys as they just read the boxes. They are sending back both those as mis-packaged. OK WE KNOW FOR A FACT NOW!!!
4.9l Swap using 4t60E Driver side 89 Pontiac 6000 4spd auto, no abs, light duty, 2wd Left Side Pass Side 84-87 Fiero Manual Trans left side.
Kento, I just hope that they are the correct length----reading some of the posts above---if they are not original gm blah blah blah-----like gm makes their own axles. But like I said, I hope 8437 will be long enough.
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Posts: 4218 From: Beautifull Winston Salem NC Registered: Jun 2003
