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How to Acquire an abandon car by 1987 Trans Am
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Report this Post03-02-2004 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 1987 Trans AmSend a Private Message to 1987 Trans AmDirect Link to This Post
Does anybody know how to acquire an abandon car? I am currently looking at a Fiero I recently found in a field in northern WI. People living around the location of the car say it has been there for around 10 years. I am currently going to the Register of Deeds to see what I can find out from there as far as who owns the land. What do I do from there if I cannot locate the owner of the land or the car?
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Report this Post03-02-2004 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
Im sure that the DMV could help you more than the Register of Deeds.Sounds like some one dumped it there.The DMV can contact the last known owner.....
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Report this Post03-02-2004 09:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Get the VIN or license plate from the car and go to the local police station. They can run the numbers and locate who was the last owner. Most likely they will not tell you the info, But they can contact the owner and ask the owner if he wants to claim the car. If the owner does not want the car or he cannot be located, The car is considered abandoned and the police can write a report. Then contact the state DMV, give them the abandoned car report number and the VIN. You can then request a lost title and re-issue it in your name. (That's how it's done down here in Illinois, other states may be different, You can always check with either the local police or the state DMV to get proper procedures.) It is always best to use the legal method. I know of some who took the car, fixed it up and tried to get a lost title. The state contacted the previous owner who then claimed the car and the person who fixed it was out all the money. (the owner never authorized it so the person had no legal claim to the cost).
If it turns out to be the owner of the land, You need his permission to remove it and he needs to sign an affidavit that the title is lost so you can get a title in your name.

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Report this Post03-02-2004 09:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Might not want to tell them where it is, incase they feel they want to go out and get it, and take it off to the parts yard, never to be seen again. Keep us informed.
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Report this Post03-02-2004 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
If you don't do this right for your state etc.... you can be charged with auto theft.
It is also posible the car is already stollen... neihter is a good thing.

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Report this Post03-03-2004 01:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jstrickerSend a Private Message to jstrickerDirect Link to This Post
No matter who owns the car you need the landowner's permission (or the tenant if it's rented) to enter the property. If you're caught on the land trying to remove anything, no matter who owns it, you can be charged with trespassing and possibly attempted theft.

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If it turns out to be the owner of the land, You need his permission to remove it and he needs to sign an affidavit that the title is lost so you can get a title in your name.

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Report this Post03-03-2004 07:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Master Tuner AkimotoClick Here to visit Master Tuner Akimoto's HomePageSend a Private Message to Master Tuner AkimotoDirect Link to This Post
Just file a mechanics lein on the car as long as it is not stolen,once the lein is in place the owner is out of gas ......it is a sad reality but it is legal and the owner has no legal recourse.

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Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto:

Just file a mechanics lein on the car as long as it is not stolen,once the lein is in place the owner is out of gas ......it is a sad reality but it is legal and the owner has no legal recourse.

Ahhh, the legal "loophole" angle.

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Report this Post03-03-2004 08:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 1987 Trans AmSend a Private Message to 1987 Trans AmDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto:

Just file a mechanics lein on the car as long as it is not stolen,once the lein is in place the owner is out of gas ......it is a sad reality but it is legal and the owner has no legal recourse.

What exactly is a mechanics lein?

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Report this Post03-03-2004 08:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jstrickerSend a Private Message to jstrickerDirect Link to This Post
Why could you file a mechanics lein against a car that you have no reason to file a lein against? Even if you drag it out of the field and spend $10,000 on it, if you don't have the owner's permission to do that he's not liable to pay you for it. Can you say FRAUD?

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Just file a mechanics lein on the car as long as it is not stolen,once the lein is in place the owner is out of gas ......it is a sad reality but it is legal and the owner has no legal recourse.

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Yeah that sounds kind of fishy to me too. May be legal, but totally unethical.
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Report this Post03-03-2004 11:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SynthesisSend a Private Message to SynthesisDirect Link to This Post
Just be careful. I am a testament to the Abandoned Car thing. The owner of the vehicle decided he wanted to claim the car after many years of it sitting and rotting. The sunroof had been left out, the engine was full of water, but in the end, I sat time in jail, have a felony because of it, and he says I am the one who totalled the vehicle. I am ordered to pay restitution, although part of that was dropped because there was no way I could have bent the frame with it parked in the middle of a state owned field.

Be careful. If you DO find the owner, get everything in writing, and double check your state laws. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

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Report this Post03-03-2004 04:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GSXRBOBBYClick Here to visit GSXRBOBBY's HomePageSend a Private Message to GSXRBOBBYDirect Link to This Post
Apply for a lost title.

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Report this Post03-03-2004 04:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusThugSend a Private Message to TaurusThugDirect Link to This Post
i need to put a lein on that new 360 spyder ive seen around here alot lately

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Report this Post03-04-2004 04:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LS1swapClick Here to visit LS1swap's HomePageSend a Private Message to LS1swapDirect Link to This Post
I would run a carfax on it and see if you can locate the owner that way.

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