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compression??? by mikey127
Started on: 02-16-2004 11:55 PM
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Report this Post02-16-2004 11:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mikey127Click Here to Email mikey127Send a Private Message to mikey127Direct Link to This Post
What is the propper amount of compression in a 2.8??? I read somewhere that 100psi is normal. Is this true?

I'm taking out my motor in the next few days and if the engine has good compression i'll leave the bottom end alone. If its week then I guess its rebuild time. I was hopeing to save some cash and fix my clutch and oil leaks, etc. I live on gravel and don't want to put a load of money into this car. I'll do that with an 88 I want to buy later down the road.

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Report this Post02-17-2004 01:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for smokinjoefissionClick Here to visit smokinjoefission's HomePageClick Here to Email smokinjoefissionSend a Private Message to smokinjoefissionDirect Link to This Post
100 PSI is a little on the low side, but what's more important is the variance between the cylinder that has the highest compression vs. the lowest one. It shouldn't be more than 15 PSI or so.

My tired V6 has one cylinder that's 160 PSI, and one that's 90 PSI. It still runs great tho.

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Report this Post02-17-2004 08:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mikey127Click Here to Email mikey127Send a Private Message to mikey127Direct Link to This Post
the stupid book that I have says 100psi, and just had to double check it to make sur I read it right.

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Report this Post02-17-2004 12:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for camonClick Here to Email camonSend a Private Message to camonDirect Link to This Post
I have tested both my GT's in the past (about 5 months ago) and my 86GT was about 150 with the lowest reading at about 145 (cylinder #4) the car has 105,000 miles (I was told by a few people that this is great compression for this type of milage). I also tested my 87 GT and it gets about 135psi on all cylinders car has 136,000 miles.

The 100psi you mention is a base minimum # I believe!

Remember when testing compression to crank car at WOT (wide open throttle) for about 3 to 4 cranks.

If you have some low readings squirt alittle oil into the low cylinders and repeat the process your #'s should increase dramatically which means a topend rebuild is in order! If the topend is rebuilt I would suggest rebuilding the lowend aswell because with a fresh topend and a weak low end the low end could fail because of the increased compression from the topend rebuild!

Just my .02!

Good Luck!

Edited because I forgot to post milage!
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Report this Post02-17-2004 08:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mikey127Click Here to Email mikey127Send a Private Message to mikey127Direct Link to This Post
Now if i'm not mistaken, at first if you have poor compression and you add oil and see it get better this is due to the rings. On the flip side if you add oil and see no change this is a valve problem. I know this is an old school of thought, just throwing things out there.

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Report this Post02-17-2004 10:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for smokinjoefissionClick Here to visit smokinjoefission's HomePageClick Here to Email smokinjoefissionSend a Private Message to smokinjoefissionDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by mikey127:

Now if i'm not mistaken, at first if you have poor compression and you add oil and see it get better this is due to the rings. On the flip side if you add oil and see no change this is a valve problem. I know this is an old school of thought, just throwing things out there.

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mike

Yup, oil in the cylinders seals bad rings, raising compression. The best way to test for bad/worn valves is with a leak-down test with an air compressor and a couple of air pressure guages.

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Report this Post02-18-2004 04:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTDudeClick Here to Email GTDudeDirect Link to This Post
Yep and pull the ecm fuses so you don't flood the engine. That could make your c/r seem lower than it is. I believe it should have 145 psi +or - 10 percent difference between worst and best readings. Good luck.

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