Just curious as this is something I am very glad I do. Especially last weekend.
Whenever I have the wheels off my car for some sort of repair, either brakes or suspension. I grab out a can of paint, usually Trim Clad rust paint in gloss black or last time it was a chrome colour paint and I paint everything with 1-2 coats. I will just sit there in the open wheel well and start spraying. Every Nut Bolt, Bracket you name it gets coated. It always looks nice with a fresh coat of paint and this weekend I really saw the benefit of it.
After driving my car around in the winter, snow ice, and salt everything usually gets a solid coat of rust on it. Well I had a suspension issue and had to pull the front end apart on Saturday, NO RUST, none at all.
I have been in the habit of painting everything. When my last tranny was out, it got painted FLAME RED. and I do go down with a spray can and touch it up when I am under the car. Sway bar, Control Arms, Cradle, Rack, everything gets painted at one time or another.
Cost is only a few cans of paint, and the 20 min or so do to the spraying. In the long run I am gonna bet it is going to save me many hours of fighting with rusted bolts and drilling out snapped off studs.
So back to my original question, how many people paint there suspension parts or underbody of your car.
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Posts: 2267 From: South Florida,USA Registered: Jul 2003
That is good for the car but you would be better off if you could get undercoating it is like rubber it offers more protection and it holds better than paint and it will not rub off easily like paint.
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I paint some parts when I have time, But also last year, I put the car over the pit and put about 10 cans of rubberized undercoating on her. I hope I dont need to replace anything underneath her
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Posts: 2144 From: Coeur D Alene Idaho USA Registered: Jun 2002
I just got all my 88 front suspension pieces back from the Powder Coater. It cost me $100.00 to have everything powder coated (main suspension pieces black, everything else red) will be posting a thread, with pictures, on the complete rebuild shortly. It is beautiful shame most of it in hidden under the car. But I won;t have to do anyting except wash it from here on.
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Comealongway Member
Posts: 586 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Registered: Dec 2002
When i redid mt suspension i painted everything individually in my basement, too cold outside for it to dry. Looks pretty good still, the only thing that happens is rocks chip the paint off,
the old when i bent a lower control arm and the lower balljoint.
The newer with suspension painted flat black
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Posts: 2858 From: At an elevation of 8564 feet. Registered: Nov 2000
Power Coating is great guys, but that is for the person that is doing a full suspension rebuild and has the time to have the car apart for more than an afternoon.
I am talking mainly about the guys that are in the middle of a brake job reach back grab the can of paint spray on a coat or 2 of paint, then finish off the brake job.
Or the person that is changing a nose on a car and while the nose is off grabs the can of trimclad and sprays the hell out of any metal surface.
Or the person doing the oil change that is under the car anyway and gives the cradle a good spray while they are there.
The simple things that a simple person can do.
This thread is meant for the "Its So Easy Why Not Just Do It" jobs.
Dont get me wrong I love the look of power coated parts. I will myself do that to my suspension some day. But for the average joe schmo that just wants to keep his car a little more rust proof. Giving a quick shot of paint while you are working on something is a really good idea.
By the Way, Tina, just like always in Tina Fashion the car looks awesome.
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Tina Member
Posts: 2858 From: At an elevation of 8564 feet. Registered: Nov 2000
Thanks, Capt Fiero. Yes, I do paint/touch up occasionally as well. Gotta be careful of "over spray" though,
2 things I found to be very helpful are tin foil ( easy to wrap around parts and press into place temporarily) and paint tarps (the cheap thin plastic sheets with the adhesive tape already attached)
I used to wouk whith a guy that any time whe got slow he would grab a hose and can of spray paint and go out to wash the delevery trucks then black the rails. the trucks would look great for weaks after, Or untill I decided to take one up my driveway
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Posts: 1962 From: Westlock, Alberta, CANADA Registered: Aug 2002
When I took my rear inner fenders out, I coated everything with a can of ashphault undercoating, I also touched up the rusty part of my front suspension with the undercoating. While I was at it, I did the strip by the coolant tube where the frame is welded where all the holes for the rocker panel are drilled on both sides, because it looked like the paint was getting thin.
I plan on getting a parts car and taking parts of it and have cleaned and painted. Then I can take mine down for just 1 day and swap parts. Right now all my attn is going into a little 4.9 swap.
POR-15 on my '87 3800na. I guess I just got carried away. Sandblasted it all and painted it. And as we've discussed elsewhere, POR-15 is never ever ever going to rust! Best of all you can brush it on and it comes out shinier than a nice clearcoat job.
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Posts: 2858 From: At an elevation of 8564 feet. Registered: Nov 2000
Just out of curiosity, approximately how much is it to powder coat parts?
It depends ... the more pieces you do at one time the cheaper it gets, adding a addional clear powderoat adds to the total. Sandblasting, if not done my yourself, adds a lot a dollars fast. Plus, most if not everybody I know who has done this, replaces the aging rubber/poly suspension pieces. Add a couple of ball joints, ( that tie rod doesn't look too healty either) new bolts while your at it, ... it adds up quick.
But just to give you a idea. My local guy charges my $80 to coat the intake, $100 for the headers, the heat shield, I believe was $50.
POR-15 on my '87 3800na. I guess I just got carried away. Sandblasted it all and painted it. And as we've discussed elsewhere, POR-15 is never ever ever going to rust! Best of all you can brush it on and it comes out shinier than a nice clearcoat job.
Ive painted alot of the parts on my car with POR15 and then clearcoated them...have you noticed that weather will dull POR15 when its exposed?
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Posts: 430 From: Bridgewater, Nova Scotia Registered: May 2003
Power Coating is great guys, but that is for the person that is doing a full suspension rebuild and has the time to have the car apart for more than an afternoon.
I am talking mainly about the guys that are in the middle of a brake job reach back grab the can of paint spray on a coat or 2 of paint, then finish off the brake job.
Or the person that is changing a nose on a car and while the nose is off grabs the can of trimclad and sprays the hell out of any metal surface.
Or the person doing the oil change that is under the car anyway and gives the cradle a good spray while they are there.
The simple things that a simple person can do.
Well if you don't mind putting a little more work into it and want something that'll last a little longer - get a spray can of rubberized undercoating, and just make sure the parts are clean and free of rust before you spray it. Looks good and washes great.
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
In the past I used Tectyl (kind of bitumen coating) but that is quite tacky if you have to remove it. On my Fiero I use some Hammerite-like paint. Also works great in the engine bay.
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1MohrFiero Member
Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
Ok back to topic, I see that I am not the only one that likes to shine up the parts that not everyone see's. I dont go to the extreme that a few of you do. But everything always makes me feel better when it is at least semi clean looking. I take my car to get an underbody wash about once a month to keep the dirt build up to a minimum on the cradle and suspension parts. I also do the painting whenever it is apart. So with any luck rust and dirt will not be an issue when I do my next major suspension jobs.
So far there have been lots of responses to this thread. This is pretty cool, Lets keep em comming. I wish I had some pics of what my suspension looked like right after a fresh paint coating but I will have to wait until my next time to show it.
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Posts: 2858 From: At an elevation of 8564 feet. Registered: Nov 2000