About 13k ago, I replaced the lower ball joints on my Formula. One of them didn't want to seat straight, but it finally went in. The seat may have bent during this. I went to grease the front suspension today, and found this ball joint almost completely slipped out of its seat. Is the control arm ruined? Is there a fix, other than replacing?
Thanks
Billy Moore
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That would work, but first choice is to just replace the arm. If you can't find one local I have a L side one that I will send you for $10 plus shipping. This should be an easy part to locally find though.
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Indiana_resto_guy Member
Posts: 7158 From: Shelbyville, IN USA Registered: Jul 2000
That would work, but first choice is to just replace the arm. If you can't find one local I have a L side one that I will send you for $10 plus shipping. This should be an easy part to locally find though.
Actually, you'd be surprised at how difficult it can be to find an '88 control arm sometimes. I see people looking for them all the time, and I'll say that your price ($10) is the cheapest I've ever seen!
Bryce 88 GT
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Nov 4th, 2003
88GTNeverfinished Member
Posts: 1809 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Feb 2003
Well, last night I installed a new ball joint on the off chance that it was the ball joint that was bent instead of the control arm. No luck. It went in too easy. I'm not through working on it, but I would like to move the car to the driveway. Would I damage a new ball joint if I install it with no grease, and move the car to the driveway? Later, I'll move it back to fix it more permanently. The Fiero's the toy car. Keeping the grocery getters running has to come first.
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L67Formula Member
Posts: 161 From: Knoxville, TN , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I have recently completed upper and lower ball joints on three 88's. All had the original joints and all the lowers had snap rings. I wondered why a press fit component needed a retention ring. The Moog replacement joints have the groove but did not come with the snap rings. Most of my replacements pressed in snugly but not all. I reused the retaining rings on all. I have more confidence in the tight press fit. I suppose if you have one that's not really snug, the snap ring might keep it from getting crossed up and wallowing out the control arm but if it just flops around to begin with, I would replace the arm. jp
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I think I like the idea of snap rings better than welding. I don't do welding. I can do snap rings. Last night I inspected the "good" ball joint a little closer, and found that the grease seal is pretty much gone. I'm not impressed with these ball joints. I am favoring replacing them both now. Where can I get ball joints with snap rings?
Billy
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I prefer the Moog ball joints and O'Reilly's carries them. They do not come with the snap rings but they do have the groove cut in them where the ring seats. If they can't supply the snap ring, tractor supply, Case (as in backhoe), large truck parts ......places like that will have them. jp
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Formula Owner Member
Posts: 1053 From: Madison, AL Registered: May 2001
I got the ball joint back in after trying to deform the seat a little. I also put some Loctite bonding agent, not sure what number. Still, I'm not confident that this will do the job. So I'm looking at removing the control arm next to have it welded. Are there any writeups on removing control arms on an 88? If I'm going to remove one control arm, I might as well remove them all and replace the bushings.
88GTNeverFinished, do you still have the passenger side LCA's?
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Nov 20th, 2003
Rodney Member
Posts: 4715 From: Caledonia, WI USA Registered: Feb 2000
About 13k ago, I replaced the lower ball joints on my Formula. One of them didn't want to seat straight, but it finally went in. The seat may have bent during this. I went to grease the front suspension today, and found this ball joint almost completely slipped out of its seat. Is the control arm ruined? Is there a fix, other than replacing?
Thanks
Billy Moore
Yea, get Rodney's. AutoZone rents a tool to install the ball joints. It is a large C-clamp that will remove and install pressed in ball joints. Having said that, I have compressed air and a big honking impact wrench, which makes the job a lot easier. Short of that, you can take control arm to almost any automotive machine shop and have the old joints pressed out and new ones pressed in. I prolly would have done that if I didn't have the air tools.....Paul
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L67Formula Member
Posts: 161 From: Knoxville, TN , USA Registered: Dec 2001