Hi People.
I need to change my turn signals to euro spec; I see that the rear turn signals seem to cancel out the brake light when they are both working simultaneously; is this an optical illusion, and do I have to change the system at the rear end, or just cut the turn signal wire, and connect it to a seperate light unit? (Fiero 1988 4 cylinder)
(Just used up my October subscription!!)
Fierofetish

You can rewire to make the lights do whatever you wish. I'm not sure what specs you need to meet, do you need an amber turn signal lens? If so, I would cut a piece of amber lens to replace the back up portion (or whatever section you wish to use) of the tail light section and rewire accordingly.

Place new backup lights in or under the fascia.

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I'm typing this off the top of my head, so bear with me.

One thing you can do is to wire from the center brake light to one or more of the brake/turn signals so that they brake lights stay on. The only problem with this is that I'm not sure the wire can handle the extra current.

The better way to do it is to wire from the brake switch output to the rear brake/turn signals.

In either case, you would have to disconnect the power wire between the turn signals so that one turn signal was getting power through the turn signal switch and one was getting power from the third light or the bypass wires. If you don't do this, your turn signals would stay on when ever the brakes were on.

The power runs this route
fuse box
stop light switch
turn signal switch
stop light bulbs

the turn signal switch opens the circuit to which ever side you are turning and closes the turn signal circuit to that side.

If you must have break lights on both sides of the car even if you are turning, I would expect the easiest solution would be to follow steves suggestion. And cut the existing line to one of the bulbs and run a separate line fron the stop light switch to those bulbs

For the rear (on my fastback GT) I don't have to change much for the Inspection.
I take out the PON TIAC light bulbs and I remove the sidemarker lights. Thats only because some Inspectors dont see that kind of lights every day so that could be a problem.
The yellow front parking/turnlights will have to be changed to white parkinglight/orange turnlight. white turns are also allowed here. My yellow faces are only replaced by a white face....it is easy to do

In the NL headlights/drivinglights have to be converted to the H4 standard lights. Mine had them already....

Thanks to you all for your constructive advice; when the sun rises tomorrow, I shall sally forth and put it all in action!!!
Fierofetish

good luck to you,

and FieroBUZZ's suggestion of replacing the lens on the back up lights is really makeing me think about building a 4 bulb sequential system. Three bulbs work ok, but 4 would really get attention.

Oh, and an 8 bulb tail light would be cool too.

Great! Just what I needed… another project.

That’s it. FieroBUZZ is getting a "-"

I had sequential turnlights on my GT. They worked really fine although the "blink" rate was a bit slower (but that's cool!)
They were made by Frans Godschalk here in the Netherlands. He has a homepage but I haven't got the Url here. His site has nice tech. info for things like these.

However last week I took the sequentials out because I have a new toy

I don't quite know how you want to wire them but this can save some wiring...

All the later Fiero, 86 and up, already have wiring to C500 for separate brake and turn lights.

There is a jumper between two terminals that if you cut it will split the turn signals from the brakes. Then there is a blue wire you connect the brake lamps to.

Yes, changing the number of lamps will likely change the flash rate. Thermal cans are rather picky about that. The solid state ones don't care much.

If you can find extras of the low profile sockets used... you can insert the missing terminal into the existing socket.

Take the back off carefully. It just snaps on. (Leave as much of the grease alone as you can.)

I can't remember all the details. I think there is a little tab on each terminal that you release from the bulb side. I know that is correct to the ground but I'm not sure on the base terminals.

If you can do all red lamps You could leave the turn lamps completely alone and add the brakes that way.

[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 09-13-2003).]

Now I am completely confused!!!I don't know what or where c500 is; I guess it is a connector?The main problem is this; I need to have two separate light units-one each side red for brakes,which stay on continually when the brakes are applied, and a separate one for each side which is yellow, and works only for the turn signal.I know that the control for this is on the brake pedal switch.With no indicator on, the brake lights come on; with the indicator on, the switch transfers the signal from the indicator wire to the brake light wire, so the brake light will flash.Need to be able to separate the two systems to operate independently.In desperation,I guess i can run a wire from the front indicator unit to the new back ones, but will the brake lights still flash when I turn on the indicator? Please help!! I now only have two days left to do this!!
Fierofetish

give me a few more minutes, i and writing up a step by step solution for you.

stay calm and we will help you work it out.

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https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/041331.html

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: and FieroBUZZ's suggestion of replacing the lens on the back up lights is really makeing me think about building a 4 bulb sequential system. Three bulbs work ok, but 4 would really get attention. Oh, and an 8 bulb tail light would be cool too. Great! Just what I needed… another project. That’s it. FieroBUZZ is getting a "-"

it's in and looks cool, so you can have a + now.

here's a pic finally