Our 84’s really are a different car from all the rest.

On the 84 there are two more relays, just below the fuel pump and AC relays. These turn on the outer most brake light when you step on your breaks. (listen the next time you step on your breaks and you’ll hear them click) they also work the outer most light when your turn signal or hazard lights are on. The inner two stop lights run through the stop light and turn signal switch.

They did away with the relays on 85 and up. but I thought that all three stop lights were still working on both sides.
It turns out that there is no contact for the bright filament on the inner most tail light socket.
So only the middle and outer bulbs have stop lights in them.

I’ll be modifying my 85 tomorrow

Another difference is the 84’s send power directly to the deck release solenoid through the switch on the dash. On the later models the switch grounds a 3 terminal horn relay to send power to the solenoid.

Then we were the only year to have the M19 tranny

And the SE seats have stripes on them.

The buttons on every thing is black as compared to grey.

The 84 rear bumper cover doesn’t have a cut out for a right side tail pipe.

The 84 is the rarest from of fiero that you can find.

What other differences are there that I don’t know about???

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Buddy *there are two "G"s in my name*
Ling = 84SE 350 N2O Poly MrMike seats Sequentials
"unnamed"=85GT stock (mostly)
KCFOG

This is what I can think of right now.

1. The wiring harness attaches differently in the engine compartment.

2. The Cruise Control module is built in to the speedo.
a.- if the car didn't come with Cruise, you can't just add it. you have to change the whole wiring harness.

3. I am not sure about this one: The front A-arms are slightly different.

4. No Spoiler available (except for the indy's)

5. The deck-lid/engine vents are entirely different.

6. No V-6 available

7. Clutch pedal arms made out of aluminum.

8. Deck lid made out of magnesium alloy.

9. Trunk-light switch on frame of car not in decklid.

10. Glass Sail-panels

11. No cutouts for sail panel speakers.

Please feel free to correct me if I ma wrong in any of these being 84 only

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1984 SE - 30800 out of 136840. Being modified!

[This message has been edited by KlingonFiero (edited 08-17-2003).]

The deck lid has an additional vent in the center. Wiring colors are of a different color on the 84. The 84 was the only year available with 13" wheels. 84 was the only year with the getrag 4spd and 4:10 ratio.

I'm sure there are many more but these come to mind.

Phil

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The air inlet hose for the air filter snorkel is waaaay too long and droops down further than an 85 2.5.

Windshield washer bottle is smaller than later years, tho I don't know when they went to the larger bottle.

On early 84's, the dipstick tube runs across the back of the engine near the exhaust manifold. (pre recall)

I've yet to find a tach filter on mine & am not sure it even has one.

quote Originally posted by GTDude: 84 was the only year with the getrag 4spd and 4:10 ratio.

Getrag 4-sp.?? You mean Muncie 4-sp.....Getrag only worked on the '86-'88 V-6 5-sp. tranny.

Also, what is this all about?

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: The 84 is the rarest from of fiero that you can find.

They made more than 136000 '84 Fieros, which hardly makes them rare!

quote Originally posted by mrfiero: They made more than 136000 '84 Fieros, which hardly makes them rare!

they made four more years of notchbacks
add them all up and compare it to the number of 84s

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Buddy *there are two "G"s in my name*
Ling = 84SE 350 N2O Poly MrMike seats Sequentials
"unnamed"=85GT stock (mostly)
KCFOG

quote Originally posted by mrfiero: They made more than 136000 '84 Fieros, which hardly makes them rare!

Mr Fiero beat me to this comment. They practically made more 84s than all the other years combined!

Also I believe only the center vent in the 84 is magnesium, the rest is regular old sheet molded compound, (plastic).

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: [QUOTE]Originally posted by mrfiero: They made more than 136000 '84 Fieros, which hardly makes them rare!

they made four more years of notchbacks
add them all up and compare it to the number of 84s

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My numbers may be off a bit, but this is what I have for production #'s on the notchies: 85-53837 86-66314 87-30613 88-19394. That's 170158 notchies 85-88 vs. 136840 for 84 alone.

quote Originally posted by KlingonFiero: 11. No cutouts for sail panel speakers.

AW MAN that explains why I couldn't figure out how to put speakers in there!

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: The 84 is the rarest from of fiero that you can find.

I was under the impression the rarest Fiero was an '88 GT with factory T-tops......something like 1200?

quote Originally posted by 862M4inCA: I was under the impression the rarest Fiero was an '88 GT with factory T-tops......something like 1200?

True, but these Fieros are even rarer.

The outer rear vents are metal, I assume magnesium.

quote No cutout for rear sail panel speakers

True, but that was also the case in the 85's.
Also, the radiator fan was (is) a 2 speed fan. I believe 84 was the only year for that.

1) Don't forget the clutch slave cylinder

2) And there was a thread a few months ago that claimed that the attachment brackets for the tie rods on the cradle were 5mm higher .

3) And I think that a base 84 is the lightest of all Fiero's. Having both an 88GT and and 84 sport coupe I think that this is under recognized. The 88 is great on the highway but despite the upgraded suspension I don't think that it is all that much more nimble around tight corners than than an '84 due to the weight.

Some 84's have blackk carpet

The 84 cruise control is in the speedo head

There are no coat hook in an 84

The sunroof glass is mirrored on the inside

the winddeflectors on 84's are smooth and not a textured finish like hte other years

The power mirror control only uses three mount clips unlike the other years three

quote Originally posted by My7Fieros: Also, the radiator fan was (is) a 2 speed fan. I believe 84 was the only year for that.

I used to think that, but have seen an 85 4cyl, with a/c that had a 2 speed fan, the large resistor, and the double contact relay. I looked at the title, since it was for sale, & it said it was an 85, and it didn't have the big connection in the middle of the firewall like an 84.

Funny no one has mentioned the Indy.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Funny no one has mentioned the Indy.

quote Originally posted by KlingonFiero: 4. No Spoiler available (except for the indy's)

I did, well, sort-of

The guage cluster has a Volt meter and no oil guage, the guage cluster cover (by the windshield) has 3 rows of fins. 84 Has a better (2 speed, and VERY powerful) cooling fan. Only year with manual vent controls on non air-conditioned models. The decklid hinges are different (85's were re-worked for the deck wing) 84 Indy's were uniquely re-worked for strength, however frequently are cracked. Coolant tubes and hoses are also unique to 84's. 84's dont have the hook things on the headliner behind the seats. The list goes on...

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84 Indy fiero Quad 4 HO (almost done!!)
85 2m? Getting parted out soon
Silver 88 GT, Newest addiction.

my 85 GT does have the trunk light switch attached to the body so that one's out.

hmmmm mirrored sunroof... are you thinking what i'm thinking

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Buddy *there are two "G"s in my name*
Ling = 84SE 350 N2O Poly MrMike seats Sequentials
"unnamed"=85GT stock (mostly)
KCFOG

quote Originally posted by Fierobsessed: Only year with manual vent controls on non air-conditioned models.

I thought all non-A/C equipped cars has manual vent controls such as those on this post; https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/040001.html

I know my 86 is like the top pic since I don't have A/C.

Funny, my 84 SE only has a one speed fan. Was the 2 speed fan on A/C cars only?

Yes, the 84's do have a tach filter, or atleast mine did.

quote Originally posted by Posthumane: Yes, the 84's do have a tach filter, or atleast mine did.

mine too

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Buddy *there are two "G"s in my name*
Ling = 84SE 350 N2O Poly MrMike seats Sequentials
"unnamed"=85GT stock (mostly)
KCFOG

Black trunk carpeting, like mine, was an option.

I dont have a 2 speed cooling fan, but it moves alot of air, does about 9000RPM!

My fuel guage has 'E' '1/2' and 'F', instead of the circles that I have seen on every other Fiero.

84's had solid lifters (if stock motor). and no guages above the center console panel.

Oh, and about the extra 2 solenoids for the rear turn signals, I can hear then, when turning you can hear a click up front, then one behind you, then up front again, etc... What year did they change the guages?

I also forgot, that there was a rare option of an engine screen on '84's that covered up the engine when you opened the decklid.

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84's are getting rarer because most posts here tell people not to buy 84's and that if they do to part them out.

I hope this continues until I have the only 84 in the world and then I'll be rich.

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quote Originally posted by johnt671: 84's are getting rarer because most posts here tell people not to buy 84's and that if they do to part them out.

agreed. AND, arent 84s the most common in junkyards?

i think so. i'm probably going to be picking up a 84 without motor or tranny within the next couple of weeks. but the sail panels are MINE!!!

and i think i just decided on a name for my 85GT

Most '84's are either parted out, rusted out, or are no where near stock. I am trying to modify mine, but keeping it looking stock, so everything I add I want to be able to unbolt. My custom hood is not the original hood, I got a hood off of a '86 Fiero. The original hood is hanging in our garage.

Also, I have the oldest 84 out there. Turned 20 on Aug 16.

quote Originally posted by befarrer: 84's had solid lifters (if stock motor). and no guages above the center console panel.

I can't speak for all '84's but I bought one new in May '84 and it did NOT have solid lifters. I know because one collapsed on me three years later and I changed it myself. Was positively hydraulic.

here's an odd one too the '84s had the bottom door stop/bumper on the door and not the frame.
the '84s had both a two or single speed fan.
the back vents are soild and lighter. there is no wiring for a V6. speakers in the seats, oh yeah and there's that fire recall, we can't forget about that one...lol They are lighter. the coupe and sport weigh in at 2465lbs (dealer specs) when they came out 50% of the owners were female. I think the sail panels were made of a different material(I know at some point they changed it but not sure when)
I have a '84 sport and my wife has a '84 SE both with the 4.10 tranny!

quote Originally posted by sardonyx247: I have a '84 sport and my wife has a '84 SE both with the 4.10 tranny!

Is the 4.10 tranny on the "Sport" stock?
I did a whole lot of research when I first got my 84, and the specs I found said thet the 4.10 only came in the SE.

There were two other 4-speeds that were available for the Sport and the regular Coupe.

quote Originally posted by Hank is Here: Some 84's have black carpet

Negative...unless you are referring to the trunk (and even then Ive never seen it, but have heard people mention about 'black trunk carpeting'). 84's, just like other year fieros, came with grey or tan carpeting.
Also 84s didnt have the 3rd brake light (which Im sure has been mentioned already).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the sail panel speakers and the rally gauges didn't start until '86. I've parted and used two '85 GTs, and neither were optioned, nor seemed equipped for these.

i cant speak for the black interior carpet but my trunk has black carpet that came out of a silver 84 coupe

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Buddy "there are two Gs in my name"
Ling = 84SE 350 N2O Poly MrMike seats Sequentials
Julia C = 85GT stock (mostly)
KCFOG

When I say that the 84's have manual vent controls, I mean that they have little levers under the dash you push or pull to open the vents, not refering to the slider style heater/vent control. And yes its the non AC cars, Only The AC cars have the 2 speed fan. As for black trunk carpet, Yes I have had one with it. Only, Im not sure if it was in my 84 or my 85. I liked the black carpet better, it didn't get dirty as easily as the grey. As for the Iron dukes lifters, They were ALL Hydrolic, however in 86+ (and possibly part of 85) they were all roller lifters. The speakers moved from the headrests to the sail panels for 86. Oh and don't forget about those coveted glass sail panels (if it hasn't been mentioned already) I also forgot that the 84's have the unique AC hoses, as well as a unique (as compared to other Fiero's) AC accumulator and evaporator.

84's witht the light group (map lights), had 3 buttons on the overhead lights, one for the left map light, one for the right map light, and one that turns on the interior lights.

I also read that the 84's had a shorter shifter for the standard cars.

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quote Originally posted by Posthumane: Funny, my 84 SE only has a one speed fan. Was the 2 speed fan on A/C cars only? Yes, the 84's do have a tach filter, or atleast mine did.

I believe that is correct about the a/c being the determining factor regarding the 2 speed fan.
So, where is the tach filter on an 84??

TONY_C wrote:
> I can't speak for all '84's but I bought one
> new in May '84 and it did NOT have solid
> lifters. I know because one collapsed on me
> three years later and I changed it myself. Was
> positively hydraulic.

I think what he meant was that the '84s used flat lifters, and '85 and ups used roller lifters.

JazzMan

Didn't the '84's also have the shortest shifter? It was also "s" shaped. Then the '85 was a little longer but still had the "s" bend in it and they got rid of that in '86.