Got my stuff back from the machinist the other day and was calculating the compression ratio. I figured the pistons would stick out of the block and well they did by about 3mm.
My machinist said he couldn't find any 3.1 pistons @ .060 over so he gave me low compression 2.8 pistons that SHOULD work. They didnt Well my faith in him is now gone.
You guys have been very helpfull in the past so please help now.
Im looking for a 3.1 cast pistion that will get about 9:1 compression. TIA
why is everyone so scared of the big bad 0.060??? my 3.1 is a screamer at high rpm's!! as for the pistons, it was my first engine so my machinist took care of all the details. wish i could help ya, but don't let people make you nervous on the overbore. it'll be just fine. just upgrade your cooling system for good measure. also invest in some dura lube or slick 50.
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Report this Post06-15-2000 11:04 AM
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doing some more math. I think a flat 2.8 piston withn a 6:1 CR would do the trick. Does anybody make a 6:1?
Please help im getting very anxious to put the motor back together.
It's not fear, it's the availability of piston for that overbore.
Frankly, if he told you "no problem finding them", tell him to call you when his gets them in. It's his problem. Otherwise, have *him* buy a block from the wrecker (cheap)and bore it to something you can get pistons for. His dime.
The Fiero block is just the dime-a-dozen 2.8L/3.1L 67mm journaled block from 85-9?. Quite a few years. The block from the billions of MPFI A-cars 85 and up(Celebrities, 6000, Ciera's, etc) will work.
Terry
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Well talked to my machine shop he said that if I bring my block back and a boneyard block that can be bored he will do the work and supply the pisions at no charge.
Still It would be much easier for me to get pistons to work with what I have.
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Posts: 197 From: Denver,CO - USA Registered: Sep 1999
Mike Calahan at JE Pistons can make you a set of pistons for any bore size and compression ratio that you want. They make all of my pistons for me. But be advised - there not cheap. If your interested let me know and I'll E-mail his phone number.
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Posts: 3905 From: Dallas, GA. Registered: Jan 2000
Arias, and Wiesco will make you a set... from $580-$700 for a set. any compression ratio you want... But if you plan on nitrous stay away from Hypereutetic pistons and stick with a good forged unit. If you gunna put a S/C or turbo on you'll want a lower compression ratio also...
Don't sweat it. Joe Wynmann of associated Auto out of Maryland sold me .060 over pistions with his 3.1 stroker kit. At .060 over, you have a 3.3 I think. He supplied PISA Corp. with their 3.1 kit. Try contacting PISA at www.cybercars.com I can't complain about being .060 over.
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Don't sweat it. Joe Wynmann of associated Auto out of Maryland sold me .060 over pistions with his 3.1 stroker kit. At .060 over, you have a 3.3 I think. He supplied PISA Corp. with their 3.1 kit. Try contacting PISA at www.cybercars.com I can't complain about being .060 over.
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Report this Post06-16-2000 09:09 PM
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Bad news... Depending how you look at it.
I went back to the 2.8 crank after having little luck at the boneyards
But the engine will be together over the weekend
so im set at
2.8 @ .060" over ABOUT 9.1:1 compression (I dont trust his calculations anymore) Crane compucam 2030 Comp Cams springs and retainers Ported stock exaust maifolds
Just hope it turns out well kinda worried about the bottom end power with that cam and the 2.8 crank but the top end will be sweet
I don't believe they are Camaro pistons because they are hypereutectic pistons, not cast. hyperuetectic have more silicon in them and can withstand more heat. Also in an article her wrote for Fiero Owner magazine decribing the rebuild in detail he states that an .040 over bore would give you a 9.2 compression ratio and a .060 overbore would put you at 9.3... Even if they are camaro pistons, it's from a 2.8... stroking to a 3.1 should boost compression probably to 8.9 with no overbore.