I was just borwings over to www.lear2000.com and saw the add for their new kit car. Its powered by a Supercharged 3.1 V6 that puts out over 340 HP!! Can you imagine the torque this monster would put out?! I wonder what kinda of supercharger unit they are using, a rotrex, vortex, or paxton? I also have to wonder how my stress this puts on the old v6. Anyways, just thought I'd pass it on to you guys to check out. later.

Try 440HP.

That's asking alot.

The site says it's a twin turbo. It's possible with low compression, intercooler, lots of boost and wind it up.

It is available or just a fishing expedition?

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I could not find where it said the horse power on that site but that might be Canadian Horse Power, I believe the exchange rate would equal about 250 horse power in the U.S.
Just kidding.

I think I would rather spend my starting at $55K on something a little more reliable and more proven 'Vette maybe IF I WERE GOING TO START AT $55K

I think you can buy a Lingenfelter C5 Vette for around $55,000 just to put things into perspective.

Just another thought. I'm building a Countach clone now and I can tell you I don't think anyone would want to take one on a long trip. The visibility front,rear and to the sides stinks, NO headroom and it takes talent to get in and out. Sure looks good though. $55K garage ornament no no no(not mine the Diablo)

I like the style, but... for $55K you can get a V8 Diablo Roadster turnkey. Since I am looking for a kit, I sent them email asking if it was available in kit form. The answer was "No". I wish it was because it is also on a non-stretched Fiero frame.

When I clicked on something it said "440HP" twin rubber bands with "double knots".

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Under the Specs section it say 3.1 SuperC. v6 with 340 HP. Hmmm, must be two different engine options.

Go to the site, click on FLASH INTRO and suffer through the graphics. Right after it says something about "DNA", the next graphic is "440HP TWIN TURBO".

It's says 340HP elsewhere.

Much nicer cars for the same price IMHO.

Hey GUYS;
FYI, I contacted them and they are using two turbos from a 2.2 Chrysler LeBaron in a 3.1.
I also requested info on the supercharger.
Those HP readings are at the crank. I am going to look into doing that same thing on my 3.4. Anyone have any experience with those LeBaron turbos?

The turbos in the Penta-cars are by Garrett. I noticed several in my local U-Pull-It yard and talked to my local turbo installer (Majestic Turbo)about them. He said they were good units and that they were the T-3s which are the right size to use on the 2.8.

The problem was they used an unusual mounting flange pattern. Not a problem unless you wanted to change the RPM characteristics of the turbo for more top or bottm end torque. He recommended looking for units from the M-Benz cars as they have a universal flange.

Roy L.

I am hesitant to say that it is impossible to have more than 300 hp in a 2.8 block but I would have to say I am EXTREMELY skeptical of such a claim. There would be others that know more about these cars than I do that would say such a number is preposterous and a pipe dream. The block is largely unprotected by such power. I would love to see not only if it reaches this number but how long the block holds out.

MrFixit,

Aren't the chrysler turbos Garett T-2.5's? Perhaps you are correct, but I had always thought that they were 2.5's. The McLaren 89-90 Turbo Grand Prix used a T-3 on it's 3.1L... so the T-3 is the correct size. The numbers on that car were 205 bhp at the fly with only 4-5# boost.

William T. Thorn, III

Pontiac has a special version of their GrandAm called that has a supercharged 3.4 that puts out 262HP. The article didn't say much else about the engine but the unblown engine makes 172hp. I wonder if this would fit in a fiero. The blower is at the rear of the engine and is driven by a long shaft from the front of the engine. That way you can still have airconditioning. Just interesting what you can get out of a relatively small streetable engine. For a look at ultimate power output a twin turbo Firebird with a 350 cu makes 1400HP and went 300mph for a class speed record.

I can get a T-3? turbo from a 81-87 300zx turbo for $400. Should I buy it? Can I use it on my 3.4? How does one go about a twin turbo?