The Rottin Resurrection
Topic started by: johnyrottin, Date: 07-21-2013 10:09 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000147.html


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #1, 07-21-2013 10:09 PM
      The Rottinchop traveled up to Wisconsin. Archie viewed it...and shook his head in disbelief. Rob has it...and he and the fellas should be recovered from their laughing/crying fits by this time. The Fox Valley boys think they can make it work and my son and I are very hopeful. His heart was a bit crushed by the whole ordeal. Over to you fellas for the details!!!!

FieroMaster88 (fast88fiero@yahoo.com) MSG #2, 07-21-2013 10:11 PM
      I can not wait to see this car completed! I wish I could help.

mrfred8 MSG #3, 07-21-2013 10:30 PM
      John,

Good things come to those who wait, and you had more patience and faith then anyone. Here's hoping Fox Valley Fiero's can give you a chop worthy of your wait.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #4, 07-21-2013 10:49 PM
      OK here we go!


Prepare yourself....................this is not for the faint of heart.










Here is the bottom of the door.....in the old thread you may have noticed a trim piece here that was made and put on. Well, um fail blew off on the way here stuck on with cheap hardware store caulk.


IMG]http://images.fieroforum.com/2012/CIMG7062.JPG[/IMG]


WOW is all I have to say and a for just how bad this was., None of the work was symmetrical and was off side to side a lot when measured with a ruler. the light pockets were off as well.

On to the failure of bonding and body work.....
OK this is the right front pillar top were the cut is made for the chop top. notice the lack of sanded and cleaned up surface on the bottom of the pillar piece. I didn't even have to barley lift and it crumbled.

Left side


Where the roof and the rear clip were joined....Fail, bonding surfaces were not cleaned up sanded and bonded with bonding adhesive.




the metal work was just as terrible, I will need to find a chunk of metal to fill this in or a factory chunk off a junk car.

that's all for tonight! As bad as it all looks we can fix it!

John gimi a call when you are free tomorrow night. I am home after 6

Archie I will get to work on the list we talked about.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #5, 07-21-2013 11:03 PM
      Guys this just turns my stomach. I don't even have the words...

skuzzbomer MSG #6, 07-21-2013 11:08 PM
      Holy **** .... I thought it needed a lot of work but I had no idea it was that bad. Damn.

Guys, if you can make it right, I'll have to buy you all a beer.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #7, 07-21-2013 11:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Guys this just turns my stomach. I don't even have the words...


No biggie we will fix! metal welds and fiberglass bonds. In no time at all it will be whole again! we just need to get a few parts first!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #8, 07-21-2013 11:16 PM
      I think I completed more work in 20 minutes on it tonight than was done in the last 2 years! lol first stages of this is dissecting the work or I should say lack of work that was done. I really want to save the hips that they made but I already have spotted a few issues I may have to address seing how the other things were bonded. tomorrow night I am going to drill a few exploratory holes in them so I can see how they were bonded on. If I see they are bonded with panel adhesive I will leave them on and try and save whats left of the rear clip, if they are not on good I will try and remove them and reuse them, I fear they are a chunk of foam like the front was with aluminum tape as the bond.

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Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #9, 07-21-2013 11:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skuzzbomer:

Holy **** .... I thought it needed a lot of work but I had no idea it was that bad. Damn.

Guys, if you can make it right, I'll have to buy you all a beer.


I'll buy the second round.

Looking forward to real progress.


LEEEZARD (cobalt964ruf@aol.com) MSG #10, 07-22-2013 01:39 AM
      good luck guys.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #11, 07-22-2013 07:06 AM
      I've been following this one for a while. Sorry about the issues and I hope you all can help redo this. The only time I will say this: "In defense of the work by the one who remains nameless", based upon his previous threads, this all looks like a buck, in which a mold would have been made. All the bodywork looks very temporary.

Anyway, please carry on. Good luck.

Bob



MadMark (markbannan1@gmail.com) MSG #12, 07-22-2013 09:08 AM
      I am sad to see how badly this has gone so far, but I am truly encouraged when the Fiero group gets together to help one of their own.

I don't know it would help or not, but I have a hood from my 88 GT that I am not using. It is a very sound and serviceable hood, but the paint on it is very sun burnt. If there was a way to get it all the way over to Wisconsin to you I would give it to this project for free. If there is a way PM me.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #13, 07-22-2013 09:15 AM
      Mark,

Thank you for the kind offer. I know those boys are going to need a whole lot of parts!!! Some good news I received this morning...Chuck may have found the choptop glass!!! Hopefully it is the correct glass. It should be headed up here this week or next.

One other thing I know we will need is a windshield. It helps to keep the bugs out of your teeth when you are driving!

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Tony Kania MSG #14, 07-22-2013 11:29 AM
      Glad to see a turn around. Positive vibes...

Send me your tail lights. I will do them for the cost of shipping.

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85sliverGT (zymogenesyst@hotmail.com) MSG #15, 07-22-2013 11:38 AM
      Could you put up a list of parts needed? Sounds like many are willing to donate parts to see this finished!

Formula MSG #16, 07-22-2013 11:45 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

One other thing I know we will need is a windshield. It helps to keep the bugs out of your teeth when you are driving!



http://tinyurl.com/me2bzhs

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #17, 07-22-2013 11:46 AM
      Tony, thanks. I am not sure which way Rob intends to head on this project. I am leaving it completly up to him and the fellas. It will be one heck of a surprise!!! Will definitely take you up on the offer if they had thay way though. Your tailights always look amazing!

Also, I think Rob is still inspecting and will come up with a parts list soon. From what I know at this point hood, fenders, nose, rear decklid, and windshield. From there I am not sure.


EvilSqueezles (cyawow88@gmail.com) MSG #18, 07-22-2013 05:00 PM
      We have lots of Fieros in the boneyards down around my area. I can head out and strip things that you fellas need to help build this beast back up. If theres any way I can help let me know.

~James


RWDPLZ MSG #19, 07-22-2013 05:47 PM
      Um, wow. That is beyond criminal. Really hoping to see this car turned around.

MadMark (markbannan1@gmail.com) MSG #20, 07-22-2013 05:50 PM
      Johnny, I am going to a wedding in the UP at Manistee, I think the third weekend of August. If you can wait until then I can strap the hood onto the top of my Impala and bring it with me. I will drive it down to where the Fiero is and drop it off, that way it won't cost anyone anything. If that is alright I will PM you to get the address where I need to drop it off.

FieroMaster88 (fast88fiero@yahoo.com) MSG #21, 07-22-2013 09:57 PM
      If there is anything I can do to help let me know!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #22, 07-22-2013 10:38 PM
      A moment of silence........... after pulling the rest of the body off and taking a crap load of measurements the frame is a loss. Pics to follow but to sum it up as you all wait for the pics the roof is bent every which way but square the b pillar is twisted and well missing chunks. Good news tho this project may not be dead yet..............just keep in the back of your mind a grandfathers ax. Sometimes you have to replace the handle sometimes you have to replace the head but.... its still grandpas ax more to follow on that.....

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #23, 07-22-2013 10:40 PM
      JOHN!!!! Steve just may have found a Engine! I told him to post linky on here! he just texted me

86soon3.4 MSG #24, 07-22-2013 10:44 PM
      http://milwaukee.craigslist.../pts/3946617222.html

Here You Go.

Steve


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #25, 07-22-2013 10:45 PM
      Awesome!!! Do we need to have it checked out?

86soon3.4 MSG #26, 07-22-2013 10:51 PM
      I would reseal and check bearings.

But that's just me.

Steve

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KOS MSG #27, 07-22-2013 11:03 PM
      I sure hope you end up with the car you were supposed to! If you or the guys were closer I would say you could have access to my cnc mill, lathe or whatever else may be needed. Good luck!



bulldog85043 (dr.feelgood04@hotmail.com) MSG #28, 07-22-2013 11:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

OK here we go!




Anyone else getting boxes with X's in them...?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #29, 07-22-2013 11:46 PM
      OK here we go This really hurts posting these pics, if it was not for the hack job this was a beautiful frame.
Here you can see the right B pillar and it is well look at the pics.



Drivers side


Both sides I can get my finger into the right side more since it is not square and higher


Here is a pic of how bad the dash fit Chris could barley see out of it and it was taped in not bonded or bolted in and then mud was over the tape.

John, here is were the roof is smashed up by him putting in what looks like a porta power and jacking the crap out of it bending the roof up and pulling it in.



I hope this pic turns out , shows how bent up the roof is








I put my back window template in it to check it further and it was sloppy all the way around


After discovering the mashed up roof line I grabbed a extra roof I had laying in storage and we used it to compare just how out of whack the center of the roof was.


we then threw a stock dash in it to see if the windshield would have even fitted with the chop and well that part he got right at least.


Chris is giving opinion of a he who remains unnamed chopping skills

Here we are taking more measurements to see just how bad it is bent up and what kind of hacking I would have to do to fix it.




And that's All folks and now for the sad part the car is too bent up to fix, between the missing parts and the poor construction this poor car died by the hands of that person. We made a collective decision that this car would be unsafe or impractical at this point to try and fix with so much of it hacked off missing or ruined. BUT!! there is hope, As we were going threw looking it over and looking at every option and angle we have found a solution..Stay tuned this is not over yet!



Tony Kania MSG #30, 07-22-2013 11:59 PM
      I will not turn this into a circus. But, I just want to say that the "satisfied customers" need to pull a panel or two on their cars.

I am too far away to help out physically, but my offer stands guys.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #31, 07-23-2013 12:05 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Tony Kania:

I will not turn this into a circus. But, I just want to say that the "satisfied customers" need to pull a panel or two on their cars.

I am too far away to help out physically, but my offer stands guys.


I was just about to add Since it was already asked by Blackthundergt, I would for sure get the body off asap and get a ruler and get going on it. after seeing this hack job those other cars may be really unsafe. As John asked me would I put my daughters in this car My answer is HELL FREAKING NO! this thing is ready to fold up. Guys who had work done take out your wheel well liners and look at the back of all your panels also if you have any cracking or in this cars case crap just falling off.


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #32, 07-23-2013 12:08 AM
      Tonight after work I went to Rob's to check out the RottinChop and help tear it down to the bare chassis.

NOT GOOD. Poor welds, cuts, holes, and bends in the roof structure and chassis that have turned a near perfect rust free car into a serious threat to all Flexi-Fliers with it's ability to twist itself. The only part we coud be sure was square was the rear hoop around the rear glass, every other part had some serious issue we couldn't be sure of it's integrity. Dash installed with aluminum tape as the only fastener and so high you could hardly see out of it, BUT it was easy to remove! [lol, but really not funny, sorry Johnny] The front end body work was a pure mess as well as the rear decklid and taillight panel. Ready for paint? HA! When did USPS shipping boxes become a proper body component?

ITS A SERIOUS MESS! Rob will be getting the pics up soon if he hasn't done so already so everyone can see the quality of work that came out of that shop. I would be concerned if I had a car previously completed from this place, if you do, I would go over it with a fine tooth comb, make sure you check for cardboard and aluminum tape! It may look pretty on the outside, but I'd be worried about the inside. The only parts nice on the car are the rear fender hips, rear bumper, the upper halves of the door panels, and the tip up doors, which I think are the only parts not fabricated in that shop.

The condition is quite unfortunate, Johnny has some decisions to make as to how this project shall proceed, but he WILL get a PROPERLY completed chopper from THE FOX VALLEY BOYS

Edited to add: John check this thread
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...120111-1-076477.html
unsure of present condition but may be viable, and it too would be deserving

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LEEEZARD (cobalt964ruf@aol.com) MSG #33, 07-23-2013 01:42 AM
      JOHN, very sorry for your loss. keep your chin up tho. I sold my mera project shell last wk or I would donate it to the cause for you. happy motoring.

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Carcenomy MSG #34, 07-23-2013 02:04 AM
      I feel physically ill.

Good luck to you dudes, eagerly watching to see how it comes together when some passionate chaps congregate for the greater good.



johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #35, 07-23-2013 07:45 AM
      I took last night to process. it is gutting that a completely rust free very nice 88GT was ruined while a guy took someone's hard earned cash and produced this junk. I can dwell on the negative and live miserably or I can press on knowing there a good people out there and be a happy guy. I choose that latter. in that spirit here is a current status of the Rottinchop:



Yes, it is headed to the scrap heap. Sad but true. Now on to the good news that comes from the bad news. Choptop #19 is sitting outside Archie's shop. No more. It will head to the Fox Valley boys. So they get to start with an Archie quality chop. Now the boys instead of starting with a car made from this:



and this



They get to start with this:



Yes that is Will's old Formula. So in a way I am finishing it for both of us. Archie is also going to check his storage to see if he has a GT body left. Couldn't do this withoiut Archie!!!

With these ACE Aviator rims:



These Archie doors:





Hopefully turning this engine:



Into something like this:



We will try to use these hips:



And hopefully this rear bumper



These coilovers



These brakes



And some other bits and bobs that will pop up as we go along.

I refuse to let one bad person that weaseled his way into our community set the tone we have with each other and the vendors we embrace. I will maintain a positive outlook and empower the good folks we have working together to make this happen. This is somewhat where we are moving towards:

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #36, 07-23-2013 08:12 AM
      LOL on the shipping box! yup folks that's right the so called side scoops were made of that very box! John is that the engine from the add? My phone does not let me post to the thread as I am headed to work and off my pc but I will check this later on. I am going to remove as much as I can that can be saved from this one.

ITALGT MSG #37, 07-23-2013 09:56 AM
     

John, I am so glad to see this "lemon" situation start to turn into "lemonade" for you. What's happening now is truly a testament to the vast majority of the Fiero community, and it's very humbling to see. I remember a couple of years ago when I blew my tranny at the drag strip, you offered MULTIPLE TIMES to help get my Fiero back on the road... and although I never took you up on the offer, your willingness to help out a complete stranger really says it all.

Kudos to Archie for helping out too.

I wish you the best of luck with the resurrection... if you ever make it down around Cocoa Florida, first round is on me.


FieroMaster88 (fast88fiero@yahoo.com) MSG #38, 07-23-2013 10:14 AM
      Those pictures of the "work" done make me sick. I am sorry your car was ruined but happy things are going to work out in the end.

Pete Matos MSG #39, 07-23-2013 10:40 AM
      Ya know guys, I am SO GLAD to hear that you are still moving forward with this build despite the damage to the car. What I don't understand is that is the top is indeed that bad, why can't you just cut it off and start over with a new top? I mean surely it would be easier and cheaper to start over that way then to start from scratch with a complete other vehicle> I am assuming you are having to purchase the other car here. Looking at the pictures of the choptop welds and cuts yeah it looks terrible and the pressure applied to the roof in the center like that obviously compromised the roofs integrity but how hard would it be to just level up the frame and take some squaring meaurements/weld in some braces and just break out the sawzall on the top and start over. Seems a shame to throw away a decent body 88GT if all that is damaged is the bodywork and the roofline. You guys are there looking at it and I am of course not so I bow to your experience, of course one fellow there has already done his own choptop himself so that is one more than I have ever done too. I have however done some extensive surgery to the body of a fiero before and tig welded it back together when it was pretty much a loss so maybe I just hate to give up on a Fiero somehow. Either way good luck with it and I wish you were closer I would love to be of assistance. Peace

Pete



carbon MSG #40, 07-23-2013 12:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Yes, it is headed to the scrap heap. Sad but true. Now on to the good news that comes from the bad news. Choptop #19 is sitting outside Archie's shop. No more. It will head to the Fox Valley boys. So they get to start with an Archie quality chop.


Dang, you move fast! Awesome update.

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fierofool (cmmsewell@gmail.com) MSG #41, 07-23-2013 01:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by bulldog85043:


Anyone else getting boxes with X's in them...?


I'm only seeing broken boxes. No pics, even when I right click and reload image.



BlackThunderGT MSG #42, 07-23-2013 02:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierofool:


I'm only seeing broken boxes. No pics, even when I right click and reload image.


I'm getting all the pictures... although I wish I wasn't!!!

If that worthless piece of **** ruined my car... ???


HIOSILVER! (drkmn_00@yahoo.com) MSG #43, 07-23-2013 02:27 PM
      Sad to see it all. Plus Will giving up his car dream too. And that was FASTFIEROS fault.

nitroheadz28 MSG #44, 07-23-2013 02:33 PM
      Seeing those pics last night really pissed me off, I'm so sad to see this unfold- but glad seeing the community come together as always and keeping a positive attitude.

fierofool (cmmsewell@gmail.com) MSG #45, 07-23-2013 03:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierofool:


I'm only seeing broken boxes. No pics, even when I right click and reload image.


Odd that when I viewed this page then hit the back button for page 1, Jetsnvette's first pictures showed up. I'm having issues with other forums, so it must be my computer.


Danyel MSG #46, 07-23-2013 04:20 PM
      @johnyrottin PM your mailing adress....... that new rottinchop needs DIY LED marker kit ... you can also send me your markers I'll swap in LED kit and send them back FREEBEE

regards
Danyel



BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #47, 07-23-2013 05:32 PM
      Starting over with a different car is the way to go. Trust NOTHING Dean put his crooked hands on. This goes out to all his previous customers.

tebailey (tebailey@charter.net) MSG #48, 07-23-2013 08:49 PM
      Wish I was a little closer to help, can't believe that he's not in jail. What he did to that car is a crime.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #49, 07-23-2013 10:26 PM
      I'm not getting any pics to load either. IE or Firefox

Firefox MSG #50, 07-23-2013 10:29 PM
      I just got off of the phone with Rob and I get to play a little part of getting this thing put together into something really nice. I'll be calling Archie tomorrow to arrange a pickup of the replacement vehicle and getting it up to Menasha for the guys. I saw the craigslist ad for the engine in the Milwaukee area and if that deal does work out I'll be happy to pick it up and run that up to the guys at the same time. I'm not far from St. Francis and I have room to haul it. My run up to Menasha will most likely be August 3rd for the delivery so there is a bit of time to get this all together.

Let me know!

Mark the paint guy


katatak MSG #51, 07-23-2013 10:35 PM
      John,

Just catching up on all this - what a shame - but I am glad to see that you are not giving in. If I can be of any help - just holler!


86soon3.4 MSG #52, 07-23-2013 10:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Firefox:

I saw the craigslist ad for the engine in the Milwaukee area and if that deal does work out I'll be happy to pick it up and run that up to the guys at the same time. I'm not far from St. Francis and I have room to haul it. My run up to Menasha will most likely be August 3rd for the delivery so there is a bit of time to get this all together.

Let me know!

Mark the paint guy


John, did you contact the guy with the engine?

Steve


86soon3.4 MSG #53, 07-23-2013 11:02 PM
      JOHN!!!!

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/066712.html

Look at this!!!!


Steve


Malkier MSG #54, 07-24-2013 12:00 AM
      Ouch ... That was my first Fiero before it went under the knife. Makes me sick looking through the photos of what's left of it. Here is photo from the day I bought it.




 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:
John, here is were the roof is smashed up by him putting in what looks like a porta power and jacking the crap out of it bending the roof up and pulling it in.



Not to defend, but that roof smash was in the car when I bought it. Saw it when I pulled the headliner out. Never could figure out how that happened - but the roof panel had been removed before as well.






jetsnvettes2000 MSG #55, 07-24-2013 12:10 AM
      Ok so a little update on the car....Did not work on it tonight After work I drove up by Steve and picked up my chop Yay it drives really well! Now for that pesky oil pressure sender tho grrr!

So looks like we have a game plan in the works for the Rottin Resurrection, now we just need to get all the bits together in one place! Tomorrow I will go out and look over the boxes of parts we have here I think for sure we will need to locate a corvette tail light panel, The one that was with this car got cut to junk and is missing parts. the lights look like c-5 lights. For the nose I was thinking we find a fiberglass stock one and then use the urethane bottom nose section from another to make that chin spoiler like on the black car above. That way if it hits a driveway the bottom flexes and does not wreck the nose.
We need to find a fox body mustang hood scoop, if anyone has one we could use it! I called a few bone yards today around here and it seems that scoop is really popular as none were to be had.

The car came with a pined out wire harness but, I am not sure how accurate it is so I am going to try and see if maybe Phonedawgz can give me a hand sorting it all out making sure its right for the 3800 sc2
I need to figure out how much interior is left in number 19 since we have nothing. After I learn that we can figure out what is needed there.
fuel pump for the 3800 will be needed and I am not sure about mounts I have a trani here and a cradle. We also will need axles the ones here are not the right axles.
We have a computer but I am not sure if it has been reprogrammed.
Extra parts we have I would like to sell so John can take that money and put towards other stuff we may need

SO far
we have a 3800 s2 block
s2 super charger
Oil pan
Lower intake
Timing cover end of engine thing ( I am not engine guy)
Push rods in a box
and valve seals
crank not sure of condition.
2 bare empty heads prob good as a planter or boat anchor.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #56, 07-24-2013 12:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Malkier:

Ouch ... That was my first Fiero before it went under the knife. Makes me sick looking through the photos of what's left of it. Here is photo from the day I bought it.


Not to defend, but that roof smash was in the car when I bought it. Saw it when I pulled the headliner out. Never could figure out how that happened - but the roof panel had been removed before as well.





Looks about right, I think this car was in a pretty good rear end accident at one point in its life, after further inspection I have found the rear frame rails are wrinkled up pretty good but looks like they pulled them back to good enough, I get a nice clear view since the trunk has been cut out along with everything in the engine bay including the bat tray and all the other mounts including the decklid springs. also the gas tank is screwed up and the coolant tubes down the middle and the right side of car are crushed in places.

There are many more things I have found but really I am not wasting any more time on picking it apart. time to move on as it sits this chassi is twisted bent burnt and stripped. Getting number 19 will save tons of money and time. in the long run.


BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #57, 07-24-2013 02:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:
The car came with a pined out wire harness but, I am not sure how accurate it is so I am going to try and see if maybe Phonedawgz


Ask Timm about my Whodeanie harness. Mine had to be completely remade.


CowsPatoot MSG #58, 07-24-2013 03:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:
We need to find a fox body mustang hood scoop, if anyone has one we could use it! I called a few bone yards today around here and it seems that scoop is really popular as none were to be had.


I don't know my mustangs, so I don't know the year of this one. It has been sitting around here since I got it from Driven Visions (was probably the last one made...actually made by employees after Joe's death). Has some dirt and dust, but the fiberglass is in good shape. It was designed as a bolt on, but could easily be fiberglassed on. I am willing to donate it to the project for the cost of shipping.



I also have a stack of 3800 performance parts that I plan to list in the mall tomorrow. I can't afford to donate these, but I got good deals on them and am not looking for a profit. I have a ported S2 (gen 3) supercharger (ported by Intense) with ZZP MPS system with 3.25 and 3.0 pullies...ported intake....ZZP short stack innercooler with all lines, heat exchanger and pump (already set up for a Fiero)...NIB ARP head bolts....NIB full FelPro gasket set (with second supercharger gasket for innercooler)....ported heads (bare, but includes SS valves)....all used but in great shape unless otherwise noted.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #59, 07-24-2013 07:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CowsPatoot:


I don't know my mustangs, so I don't know the year of this one. It has been sitting around here since I got it from Driven Visions (was probably the last one made...actually made by employees after Joe's death). Has some dirt and dust, but the fiberglass is in good shape. It was designed as a bolt on, but could easily be fiberglassed on. I am willing to donate it to the project for the cost of shipping.
I also have a stack of 3800 performance parts that I plan to list in the mall tomorrow. I can't afford to donate these, but I got good deals on them and am not looking for a profit. I have a ported S2 (gen 3) supercharger (ported by Intense) with ZZP MPS system with 3.25 and 3.0 pullies...ported intake....ZZP short stack innercooler with all lines, heat exchanger and pump (already set up for a Fiero)...NIB ARP head bolts....NIB full FelPro gasket set (with second supercharger gasket for innercooler)....ported heads (bare, but includes SS valves)....all used but in great shape unless otherwise noted.



I will shoot you a pm that looks like the correct scoop.


GodSend (godsendhockey@gmail.com) MSG #60, 07-24-2013 09:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Malkier:

Ouch ... That was my first Fiero before it went under the knife. Makes me sick looking through the photos of what's left of it. Here is photo from the day I bought it.


Not to defend, but that roof smash was in the car when I bought it. Saw it when I pulled the headliner out. Never could figure out how that happened - but the roof panel had been removed before as well.





Whodeanie should have fixed this with a few popsicle sticks and some chewing gum...

Whodeanie should have fixed that with a few popsicle sticks and some bubblegum..


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #61, 07-24-2013 09:38 AM
      First I want to say thanks to all involved for the well wishes, empathy, sympathy and volunteering time and parts and soon blood, sweat, tears, and cheers. It shows the true character of our following. The gleam is back in my sons eye. I can hear in his voice that he is as excited about this project as I am.

I want to make a special thanks go out to Rob (jetsandvettes2000) as without him this would have been a no go. I would have ended my quest, walked away, and nursed my wounded soul back to health. His "can do" attitude is a huge factor in the continuance of the build. It finally hit me when I was at his house dropping off the graciousness this guy has is second to none. While I was there it felt like a huge weight was lifted. I don't know if he saw it or would tell anyone if he did but I kind of got a bit choked up. For a guy to do what I do for a living to hit that point...that is pretty huge.

I also want to thank Archie. Now this one may seem a bit wierd but Archie fits into this equation in many ways. First, your patience and perseverance with our cars resulted in what is now the choptop. Second, your offer on Will's chop, well, I couldn'y have asked for more. i feel like we will get to fulfill my dream, my son's dream, and give Will some closure on his as well. Lloyd Roscoe stole that dream from him and I will be damned if I will allow he or he who shall not be named win!!! Arch, you are a top notch guy in my book. Thank you for all you do.

Lastly, on to the car details. I have not contacted the engine guy. Can someone copy and paste the ad details as I cannot open craigslist ads for some reason. I can call him ASAP after that. I love the idea of heading towards that black choptop and the reardecklid having stealth wingstands with that Mustang scoop. I love the looks of those scoops!!!

Thank you all for the gracious offerings on parts.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #62, 07-24-2013 09:42 AM
      Should have thrown this one to BV as well...when you are right you're right. I whole heartedly reccommend any and all that have had work done at Whodeanie's Customs to inspect what has been done closely to ensure correctness. I am not saying or inferring that it was done poorly or incorrectly but judging by some examples we are now seeing I would say it is worth checking out.

BV I hope to see your car finished to your standards and to take a ride in it at some point. Kind of a silent tribute to perseverance...silent save the whining spool of a turbo charger in the background!!!


Grantman (jgrantt@hotmail.com) MSG #63, 07-24-2013 09:54 AM
      there are a few 3.8's listed in Milwaukee CL area. do you recall what it was out of? I can paste contact info if you can narrow it down.

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #64, 07-24-2013 10:29 AM
      The link is listed on page one of this thread...

86soon3.4 MSG #65, 07-24-2013 10:37 AM
      Here you go John.


2003 supercharged 3800 v6 with just over 87,xxx miles when pulled from running/crashed 2003 Buick Regal. I was going to use it in my car but I ended up building an engine instead. $600 Call/text 414-507-8884


Steve


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #66, 07-24-2013 10:42 AM
      Thanks. I called but got an answering machine. Message left, awaiting call back.

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #67, 07-24-2013 11:36 AM
      Someone asked about the condition of the interior in #19. So I took some pics today.

It had power door releases, but now they're "hard wired".....



What you see is all there is.....









It has a couple of cracks in the dash.



That's my hood prop, it is not included with the car....



Loyde's exhaust system used to be in here...



The chassis is a pretty clean TX car, just a lot of sun bleaching.....



It has poly bushings in the suspension....



Has a gas tank & fill tube...



It has a lot of leaves left over from the days when it had trees growing out of it.....



Archie


bw03 MSG #68, 07-24-2013 12:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

The link is listed on page one of this thread...


http://milwaukee.craigslist.../pts/3946617222.html

 
quote
2003 supercharged 3800 v6 with just over 87,xxx miles when pulled from running/crashed 2003 Buick Regal. I was going to use it in my car but I ended up building an engine instead. $600 Call/text 414-507-8884
Location: Saint Francis
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests


nosrac MSG #69, 07-24-2013 12:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

We have a computer but I am not sure if it has been reprogrammed.


I can reprogram it for you.


Pete Matos MSG #70, 07-24-2013 01:25 PM
      Dunno why but ALL of Archies posts have broken picture links for me lately, Anyone else having this problem? Peace

Pete
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DL10 (dl10@frontier.com) MSG #71, 07-24-2013 01:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Dunno why but ALL of Archies posts have broken picture links for me lately, Anyone else having this problem? Peace

Pete
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Everything's OK here...viewing on a ipad


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #72, 07-24-2013 01:37 PM
      Thanks for posting the pics Archie. Strange but I don't see many cut up frame spots and surfboard foam on it. Are you sure you know what you are doing with these choptops? (heavy sarcasm...LOL)

carbon MSG #73, 07-24-2013 01:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Dunno why but ALL of Archies posts have broken picture links for me lately, Anyone else having this problem? Peace

Pete



All the pics are fine here at work, on Chrome... :shrug:


Pete Matos MSG #74, 07-24-2013 01:49 PM
      Hmm Dunno what the problem is but EVERY post by Archie lately show broken link Icons at each picture post. I am on my old desktop with Firefox on XP..... Not having problems anywhere else really. Peace

Pete



carbon MSG #75, 07-24-2013 02:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Hmm Dunno what the problem is but EVERY post by Archie lately show broken link Icons at each picture post. I am on my old desktop with Firefox on XP..... Not having problems anywhere else really. Peace

Pete



His pics are hosted on V8Archie.com... you must have it blocked in some way.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #76, 07-24-2013 04:11 PM
      E-mail sent.

Nelson


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #77, 07-24-2013 08:11 PM
      Well I am back at it tonight taking stuff off the junker. What things should I be saving if they are there? I already grabbed the front light harness, the coolant tubes 1 is dented tho, the wiper motor, and now I am going to work on getting the doors off. I will reply to emails later I am done eating dinner time to get back at it!

Marine1981 MSG #78, 07-24-2013 08:42 PM
      Looks like #19 didn't have power windows or door locks or mirrors. If that had it you may want to take them.

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LEEEZARD (cobalt964ruf@aol.com) MSG #79, 07-24-2013 09:34 PM
      since its and 88 take the suspension front and rear and cradle

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #80, 07-24-2013 10:30 PM
      I'm pleased to see that Will's car is going to a good home, there seems to be some good carma going on here with the results of one rip off going to fix another.

Joe.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #81, 07-24-2013 10:32 PM
      OK so I got a lot off tonight. and made a discovery that confirms a few things rattling around in my head. This car at one point in it's life was t-boned as the entire right rocker and part of the a and b pillar were replaced. also prob during same accident is when it got punched in the rear too. Now I understand why the frame is twisted more. whoever fixed it never put it on a frame rack. I took a few pics:

First pic looking in the right door at floor about a inch from the pinch weld you can see were they cut in the patch

then the weld line continues up the b pillar by the lock striker on the inside of the car

B pillar base interior

the back of the repair on the back of the b pillar was pinch welded like it should be they took the time to do that right whenever it was fixed I figure it happened early in its life since I am finding GM replacement parts tags all over it

A pillar

It got dark but I tried to take a pic of the wrinkled up rear frame rails also, the bumper that was on it was a GM replacement one and in perfect shape so I set it aside for someone if they want to buy it from John.


I removed the front and back body harness for lights and the wiper motor.
I removed a ton of other stuff to tired to remember.

Far as the power windows and mirrors, I removed the doors so we can use the guts. we will need a power window with mirror switch plate I have a switches for the windows and the mirrors I think in the garage someplace. we need a glove box it looks like from the pics Archie sent.

The more I dig into this car the more I am glad we got a new Chassi, this thing is a mess. Even before its final killing by that guy this car already had a rough life it seems

This project is taking off! time for some fun pics!



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Trinten MSG #82, 07-25-2013 09:16 AM
      Gotta leave for work so only had time to skim through the first page. Will read the rest asap.

Johny, I'm so sorry it turned out like this after all your patience. I hope some arrangements were made for some sort of refund.

jetsnvettes2000 - I don't have a bunch of spare parts, but I'll be happy to chip in to the donation pot to help offset costs. If it wasn't mentioned here already, can you PM me your paypal email, and give me an idea of what a meaningful donation would be?

Like Rottin, I've put my trust in others to do work, and I've had some disappointments - but nothing close to this level, so I can only get close to understanding how feels, and it sucks to feel that way, so I really want to help out. Especially after the years of bamboozling we fell for.


skuzzbomer MSG #83, 07-25-2013 06:52 PM
      Along the lines of positive thinking... I think I'd consider this a blessing in disguise considering how many parts of the frame have been patched, pulled, or otherwise repaired. I'd be pretty worried about what would happen structurally given the chances of another accident being what they are. A fresh build on a properly prepped skeleton is a good decision. Sucks that the car met such a fate but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Again, you guys are awesome for taking the time to finish this project. I'd be glad to call you folks some of the best in the community


CC Rider (ccriderf1@gmail.com) MSG #84, 07-25-2013 07:36 PM
      Can you provide a list of what you need for the build please.
Would like to help if I can.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #85, 07-25-2013 09:20 PM
      Ok fellas I know you are itching to send goodies but lets wait just a bit till the other car gets here so I can figure out exactly what will be needed. As of now I think the obvious stuff like Interior parts. I would say the hardest part will be finding a good dash.
What we need to do and we I mean John is tell us what color he wants the interior, once we have the details nailed down then it can be a free for all with the parts and we will keep track of what we have vs missing at that point. To answer another question, I sadly do not keep a Paypal account. A few years ago I had my identity stolen by a Paypal employee and well since then I have boycotted their service. As I do not have an account Steve (86soon3.4) does and really money wise being needed would mainly be for stuff he would mostly need like engine gaskets, mounts and whatever else is involved with installing the 3800. Body parts far as I can tell we will have a gt rear clip coming with it and a deck lid so that is covered. looking at the pic of the black car John likes I would say we need stuff shown in that pic. I would venture to guess we may need a headliner board and that's going to be awkward to ship so I will look locally in the yard. I have a few Ideas rolling around in the ol noggin for the final look but me and Mark are keeping that a surprise.
It started storming tonight so I did not get much done if anyone has questions or has any cool ideas shoot me a pm lets make some cool surprises on this car they do not expect!


86soon3.4 MSG #86, 07-25-2013 10:40 PM
      You need a dash???


http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/066730.html


Steve

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EvilSqueezles (cyawow88@gmail.com) MSG #87, 07-25-2013 10:41 PM
      I have a headliner in my car at the moment t that is recovered in black khaki material. Few wrinkles but looks pretty good. I plan to go fiberglass for custom airbrushing ( done by yours truly ). My brother lives in stoughton wi...How far is that from you? Could use a reason to go see him. Let me know what all is decided.

~James


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #88, 07-25-2013 11:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by EvilSqueezles:

I have a headliner in my car at the moment t that is recovered in black khaki material. Few wrinkles but looks pretty good. I plan to go fiberglass for custom airbrushing ( done by yours truly ). My brother lives in stoughton wi...How far is that from you? Could use a reason to go see him. Let me know what all is decided.

~James


Custom airbrush headliner hmmmmmmmmmm gives me an idea!


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #89, 07-26-2013 07:25 AM
      Curious if Johnny knew of the damage beforehand, or whether this is actually his chassis. Did someone check the VIN?

Bob


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #90, 07-26-2013 09:10 AM
      We haven't thought as far as the interior yet. Trying to get the logistics in line to get the car from Archie to rob and the engine from Andrew to Rob and Steve. Once we get the car and engine in place we should be able to to start laying out what will be needed.

As for the original chassis, I had no idea it was in poor shop to begin with. Had I known I never would have embarked with the car. When we originally embarked on the Rottinchop Dean was tasked with finding a proper donor chassis near him.


86soon3.4 MSG #91, 07-26-2013 10:40 AM
      For the engine we will need the following:

1) good harness
2) alternator mount
3) tranny and engine mounts and brackets
4) exhaust
5) PCM programmed
6) misc water hoses
7) engine gaskets
8) reworked axle shafts to fit auto HD tranny
9) 88 duke throttle cable
10) digital cruise control and harness
11) serpentine belts
12) a.c. hoses (if he wants a.c.)
13) a good tranny? (have no clue if the one supplied is good)


I am sure I am missing something.

Please chime in...

Steve


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #92, 07-26-2013 10:51 AM
      Yes I would like AC...gets really hot here! The tranny was from a running driving car so I assume it is good.

av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #93, 07-26-2013 09:12 PM
      hey Rob after the EAA clears out I'll be up there to help thrash on this project, I know Steve will be helping out, and there are some others who will be helping get Will's chop up to you, and it sounds like there will be a good supply of parts coming in from the great Pennocks Fiero family. Anyone else showing up to get there hands in on this project once ther new car arrives?

Come on up, the more the merrier!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #94, 07-26-2013 09:50 PM
      Yawn... I am pooped got a lot done today. I was looking at stuff we have so far and noticed the trani does not have a torque converter so we will need to find one of those as well.

Anybody that wants to stop by this weekend and help out come on over! I have lots of parts to save off the old chassi yet. I think so far I have a ton of good stuff to put on the new car.

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EvilSqueezles (cyawow88@gmail.com) MSG #95, 07-26-2013 11:19 PM
      If I can ever get mine running tip top I'd gladly come up one weekend and help out. Sounds like a fun trip.
And a favor to someone seemingly deserving as well.
~James


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #96, 07-27-2013 01:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by EvilSqueezles:

If I can ever get mine running tip top I'd gladly come up one weekend and help out. Sounds like a fun trip.
And a favor to someone seemingly deserving as well.
~James


Maybe you could car pool up with John when he comes to help out with his car?


BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #97, 07-27-2013 01:10 AM
      As I said, I dont know if you found a new chassis, but I have a 87GT roller with a clear title you can have for free. But it may be too expensive shipping-wise vs what you'd be getting.

Thats it on the left


Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #98, 07-27-2013 10:37 PM
      Hey Jetts,
I have a set of decent Notchie Tail light complete housings here, y'all can have em if you need em. I have rear QTR panels too for both sides since they removed them for my scoops. Y'all can have those too if needed. Let me know. I have set of headlight doors and some headlight buckets too.

Jake


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #99, 07-27-2013 11:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BV MotorSports:

As I said, I dont know if you found a new chassis, but I have a 87GT roller with a clear title you can have for free. But it may be too expensive shipping-wise vs what you'd be getting.

Thats it on the left


I don't know about the chassi but I sure could use the rear sway bar off of it! We already have choptop number 19 coming to build off of. I wish yours was closer I would buy it from you just to have for a future project I am thinking of.


BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #100, 07-27-2013 11:14 PM
      Thats a 3 way adjustable sway bar. Its going on the 85 setting beside it.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #101, 07-27-2013 11:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BV MotorSports:

Thats a 3 way adjustable sway bar. Its going on the 85 setting beside it.


Cool!


Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #102, 07-28-2013 12:10 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


Cool!


LOL, I'm only 8.5 hours away. Maybe y'all could meet half way. I'm almost exactly halfway between both of you.

JAKE


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #103, 07-28-2013 02:44 PM
      Well today this car rolled it's last inch. From now on its a hover car. I am ready for the new chassi to arrive




tebailey (tebailey@charter.net) MSG #104, 07-28-2013 03:17 PM
      Wow is that just camera angle, or is the back twisted that bad?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #105, 07-28-2013 03:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tebailey:

Wow is that just camera angle, or is the back twisted that bad?


Probably a little bit of both. Looks like the rain is ending so the car may shrink some more yet.


CC Rider (ccriderf1@gmail.com) MSG #106, 07-28-2013 03:50 PM
      Did you cut the trunk out ?
I noticed that # 19 does not have one.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #107, 07-28-2013 04:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CC Rider:

Did you cut the trunk out ?
I noticed that # 19 does not have one.



loyd already cut the trunk but, I just happen to have a trunk section sitting on my trailer from another fiero I parted out. SO, if John wants a full trunk it is available but from what I understand with the 3800 swaps I have seen most guys cut the bottom half out and sheet metal it in to fit the exhaust better so we will see after getting that all squared away if we can even use that trunk I have.

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BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #108, 07-28-2013 05:08 PM
      Keep the trunk.. the car sounds much better with a full exhaust. If you are using an 88 cradle, contact Fierobsessed for one of his wicked 3" exhausts!



Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #109, 07-29-2013 06:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BV MotorSports:
... If you are using an 88 cradle, contact Fierobsessed for one of his wicked 3" exhausts!



I commented in your thread, but I've got to comment here, too.

That's one of the nicest exhausts I've ever seen.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #110, 07-29-2013 08:47 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BV MotorSports:

Keep the trunk.. the car sounds much better with a full exhaust. If you are using an 88 cradle, contact Fierobsessed for one of his wicked 3" exhausts!



I am with Raydar...that is stunning!

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86soon3.4 MSG #111, 07-29-2013 08:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BV MotorSports:

Keep the trunk.. the car sounds much better with a full exhaust. If you are using an 88 cradle, contact Fierobsessed for one of his wicked 3" exhausts!


How Is This Going To Work With A 3800SC?


Steve



nosrac MSG #112, 07-29-2013 09:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 86soon3.4:

How Is This Going To Work With A 3800SC?


Steve


You have to use WCF headers, or headers that dump in the vicinity of the original 2.8 engine manifolds.


Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #113, 07-29-2013 10:15 AM
      I have a torque converter for a 4T65E HD transaxle that only has a few miles on it from a V8 Impala.I'll donate it if you need it.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #114, 07-29-2013 06:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Don Kraus:

I have a torque converter for a 4T65E HD transaxle that only has a few miles on it from a V8 Impala.I'll donate it if you need it.



That sounds great! I think it just might be what the doc asked for!


Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #115, 07-29-2013 07:18 PM
      If you are bringing the car up from Archie,you will probably use hwy 26 between i90 and 151.I live in Jefferson on 26,you could stop and pick it up on the way.Let me know.

Don


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #116, 07-29-2013 08:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Don Kraus:

If you are bringing the car up from Archie,you will probably use hwy 26 between i90 and 151.I live in Jefferson on 26,you could stop and pick it up on the way.Let me know.

Don


I will tell Firefox, he is the one bringing up the car.


Firefox MSG #117, 07-29-2013 10:08 PM
      I'll be picking up the car from Archie sometime later this week and hauling it back to New Berlin. The trip to Menasha will be Saturday. I want to break the trip in half and spend some time in the Fox Valley Saturday and running down to Rockford and then up to Menasha just wouldn't be a fun day.

Don.....we will figure something out to pick up the torque converter. I'll be running up I-43 but I'm going to try to run down there right after work one night this week. I might have to make a special trip out there to see you. Please keep an eye out here and I'll post when I'm making my run to Archie's shop.

I haven't heard from the engine guy yet about picking up the 3800 in St. Francis yet.

One step at a time!

Mark the paint guy ( and transporter )


Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #118, 07-29-2013 10:23 PM
      Just let me know.
Don


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #119, 07-30-2013 08:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by RCR:

I've been following this one for a while. Sorry about the issues and I hope you all can help redo this. The only time I will say this: "In defense of the work by the one who remains nameless", based upon his previous threads, this all looks like a buck, in which a mold would have been made. All the bodywork looks very temporary.

Anyway, please carry on. Good luck.

Bob



You may be right, After talking with Jimmy I would bet it was a buck but, It was still crap, it was off side to side and crooked. the light pockets were not symmetrical and the raised portion of the mouth varied greatly from side. From that is what I based my comments on assuming this was to be pawned as the final piece. The deck lid is scary and a good preview of what that nose would have become, Av8fiero and I spent some time with a tape measure on it and nothing lined up or was symmetrical at all.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #120, 07-30-2013 09:58 PM
      Any word on the engine!! Getting itchy to start putting stuff together!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #121, 08-01-2013 09:19 AM
      Mark will be picking up the engine and car and taking them up to you this weekend, as far as I know. The engine is only about 10 miles from him. Better get that old cut up frame outta your driveway before the neighbors think you are starting a chop shop! Well, I guess technically you are!!!!

On another note Commanderkeen should make it to you today. Since he was travelling from GA to WI with his car he loaded up all the stuff Chuck had for us, to include the glass windows, and should be to you today.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #122, 08-01-2013 08:22 PM
      Mark came by to pick up the chop this afternoon.....





The longest journey begins with one step....... it sucks when that step is up hill.







Archie



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #123, 08-01-2013 09:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Mark came by to pick up the chop this afternoon.....





The longest journey begins with one step....... it sucks when that step is up hill.







Archie


I wonder what people driving next to that were thinking seeing it like that lol


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #124, 08-01-2013 09:08 PM
      Someone needs to invest in a cheap winch. LOL

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #125, 08-01-2013 09:19 PM
      Like this one???



VikingRedBaron (vikingredbaron@juno.com) MSG #126, 08-01-2013 09:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:

Someone needs to invest in a cheap winch. LOL


A Come Along would work just fine, and they are cheap


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #127, 08-01-2013 09:28 PM
      I quit taking pics of them 'cuz I was getting tired & had to rest.

Firefox MSG #128, 08-01-2013 10:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:

Someone needs to invest in a cheap winch. LOL



The trailer actually has a winch on it. We just had to take some really neat pictures.......: )




JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #129, 08-01-2013 10:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Firefox:


The trailer actually has a winch on it. We just had to take some really neat pictures.......: )



LOL


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #130, 08-01-2013 10:16 PM
      Whats all this talk of trailers and winches? Hey! did you guys run into my ex wife lol! on your way here don't forget to stop by the dump and let her off.

Dotrenrew (the_todd@tds.net) MSG #131, 08-01-2013 10:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

I quit taking pics of them 'cuz I was getting tired & had to rest.






jetsnvettes2000 MSG #132, 08-02-2013 01:31 AM
      26 hours from now my next 15 weeks gets really complicated! I just may be more excited than John GIgity Gigity!!!!! Can't wait to dig in!!!!!

NEED PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #133, 08-02-2013 11:08 AM
      Another hell of a week at the Rottin house. While the chop seems to be on the uphilll side of good/bad news we got some other really bad news this week. My wife's mom has been diagnosed with cancer and will start chemo on Tuesday and my father ended up in the cardiac care unit with severe chestpains and shortness of breath. Not sure what is going on with my dad but artery stints are involved. We will be traveling to them both so I may be off the grid for a few days. Please keep them in your prayers.

Grantman (jgrantt@hotmail.com) MSG #134, 08-02-2013 11:48 AM
      Sorry to hear, definately prayers in order.


Kento (kento@triad.rr.com) MSG #135, 08-02-2013 02:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Mark came by to pick up the chop this afternoon.....



Archie


WOW!! I love that Look! That makes it look like there is a wing above the back window! I do not like FB but I like how that looks!!! Archie I think your onto something!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #136, 08-02-2013 04:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Another hell of a week at the Rottin house. While the chop seems to be on the uphilll side of good/bad news we got some other really bad news this week. My wife's mom has been diagnosed with cancer and will start chemo on Tuesday and my father ended up in the cardiac care unit with severe chestpains and shortness of breath. Not sure what is going on with my dad but artery stints are involved. We will be traveling to them both so I may be off the grid for a few days. Please keep them in your prayers.


Turn that frown up side down!!! We are all pulling for all of you, Your part of our family now!!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #137, 08-02-2013 04:30 PM
      Archie : V-8 cradle is stripped and ready to come back your way Mark will have it.

The old Rottin(<----kinda fits its condition the last I saw it) chassi is now on its way to becoming a new refrigerator.
The savable parts are all boxed up and waiting for the new car.
The money we make off of the Carcass went towards gas, Fiberglass and Resin so we are set there for now! Man resin got expensive since the last time I picked some up. 44 bucks a gallon geez! I need at least 3 tubes of 3m 3118 panel bonding glue yet. I need to pick up some mud yet and I need to grab a few assorted things for the chopping of the new rear clip but nothing major. If anybody wants to chip in on the 3118 panel adhesive the stuff is kinda pricey. We will also need 2 tubes of 3m windshield adhesive. We will be removing the windshield so we can work on roof section for paint easier by Firefox's request.
we have a perfect condition 88 fiero front cross member with everything including bolts minus the shocks we would like to sell to buy stuff for the build It is large so pickup only make us a offer and come get it!
We may end up with a spare 88 cradle as well, John has the nice painted one here and I will be building off of that one for the car. the one in the car will be up for grabs if its good also pickup only.
We will have spare rear links and hubs as well, John has a nice coated set in a box here already. those also pickup only.
Depending how nice the super charger is on the engine that is coming, we may have one of those also for someone to make a donation to get. Pickup only.

Parts wanted:
lock set for a gt all locks.
Nice set of door handles
Nice set of door skins tan
Nice dash
Nice center council stuff
Nice Carpet
Nice seats
We have tracks
The car will be pearl white the interior so far looks like it is gong in the direction of tan stock one.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #138, 08-03-2013 02:45 PM
      ...and in my best Mortal Combat voice..."It Has Begun!"

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #139, 08-03-2013 02:52 PM
      The Three Amigos! Wait, Wait...Uhem....the Four Amigos!



Just doesn't have the same ring to it...


Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #140, 08-03-2013 04:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:
...
Just doesn't have the same ring to it...


The Four Horsemen?



...of the Alpacalips.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #141, 08-03-2013 06:08 PM
      LOL!!!!!!!!!


OMG MOUSE POOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

INterior must be torched bleached and buried under a river!!! Other than that its great!!!!!!!!!!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #142, 08-03-2013 07:35 PM
      Rip it out!!!! I'll see if I can get some Dynamat and we can start fresh. I'll start the search for a dash.

86soon3.4 MSG #143, 08-03-2013 10:15 PM
      John, Pm Sent


Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #144, 08-03-2013 10:34 PM
      A few pics

So started to rip out the interior tonight before it got dark and here is what I found:

The drivers carpet had some mouse poop but not too bad, it could be cleaned up I think and reused if someone would like it.


The passenger carpet seemed to be the toilet of choice for the mice so I think it will be tossed.


Under the carpet all is great! just needed a bit of bleach and rinse and good to go!


All the interior chop top parts are here and nice I just need to finish them however we decide to do it.


After cleaning out the house of mouse I took bleach and cleaner and scrubbed out the front trunk , it looks nice now


Then I moved to the back of the car and blasted that as well also nice looking after all the dirt was off.


The condition of this car is awesome! I think this will be a joy to work on


tesmith66 MSG #145, 08-04-2013 05:30 AM
      What do you want for the carpet? Will you ship it? I just need the driver's side.

My zip is 62052



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #146, 08-04-2013 09:24 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tesmith66:

What do you want for the carpet? Will you ship it? I just need the driver's side.

My zip is 62052



Let me see if I can get the mouse smell and stains out of it first then I would ask John what he wants for it if I can save it. I think it may come clean but I will not know till I try, I may do that this afternoon but for now I need to concentrate on breaking down the car so we can clean up the chassi and paint up all the sun weathered areas and get moving on the rear clip chop modifications.


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #147, 08-04-2013 10:44 AM
      With all of the mice that had taken refuge in that car. You need to pull the blower motor, heater core and Evap Core. I can guarantee you that there is a nest in there and probably some dead mice.

TheRealShadowX (therealshadowx@gmail.com) MSG #148, 08-04-2013 07:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

The Three Amigos! Wait, Wait...Uhem....the Four Amigos!



Just doesn't have the same ring to it...


The tall dude would be me!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #149, 08-04-2013 07:40 PM
      Time to see progress!!

One day in and already things are happening!



SHINY!

LOOK MA I GOTS WINGS!



Does this look right? I was wondering if the arms looked bent



Both doors are on now i just need to wire them.



Marine1981 MSG #150, 08-05-2013 01:03 AM
      Nice progress! Can't wait to see John get his car.

Ben


JohnWPB MSG #151, 08-05-2013 03:54 AM
      Seriously, you have the Lambo doors on already? Wow! More done to this car then was done in a couple days, than was done to the RotinChop in 2 years! Great work!


tesmith66 MSG #152, 08-05-2013 08:41 AM
      Wow, you guys are fast!

After getting some sleep, I realized I may have spoken too soon on the carpet. Is that the 88 tan (beechwood)? I'm looking for the 86 saddle salt-n-pepper style.

I'm de-mousing as well



av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #153, 08-05-2013 08:46 AM
      double post

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av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #154, 08-05-2013 08:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Time to see progress!!

Does this look right? I was wondering if the arms looked bent


Yes those do look correct, those scissor arms have some slight bends to them

Hey Rob awesome progress! EAA is gone, I'm going to have some time Wednesday evening to help you out. I'll give you a call



mrfred8 MSG #155, 08-05-2013 08:54 AM
      Wow, you guys are making some great progress! At this rate we will see it at Fierorama

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #156, 08-06-2013 12:33 AM
      Got a little farther tonight, the back wiring is done and I fitted the Ferrari bumper.

Was looking things over some more and I need a few silly parts that I need to get.

The hole filler from the clutch res.
A set of auto pedals
a set of power locks and wiring and linkage
Corvette tail light panel that uses c-5 lights
Sail window filler panels or Archie ones to fit the chopped gt clip
Deck lid vents GT
Battery tray
Air cleaner assembly
some sort of hear barrier fir the engine compartment, all the factory stuff is gone
trunk carpet
88 duke throttle cable
brake lines --one in engine bay is pretty bent up and fugly
gt wheel well liners front
door skins L+R with handles and the push rod for door latch
GT rockers
Paint for engine bay
Undercoating for chassi areas covered up by body and rust prone
3800 swap axles
exhaust
dynamat for interior
dew wipe screws
plastic bits from windows, the metal disk were missing in a few
lots of electrical tape, most of the harness needs a refreshing
That's it for now, I am pooped will type more tomorrow!


JohnWPB MSG #157, 08-06-2013 12:58 AM
      I have a brand new set of door lock solenoids still in the boxes. They are Dorman if I recall correctly. I don;t have any of the wiring or linkage, just the solenoids themselves. If you cant get the entire assembly, let me know and I will drop em in the mail.


86soon3.4 MSG #158, 08-06-2013 10:36 AM
      I have 3 complete doors you can have for the parts you need.
They have skins and all the hardware also.

Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #159, 08-06-2013 10:47 PM
      OMG OMG OMG OMG MICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YUCK YUCK YUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!


Not sure I got pic the bugger moves fast!




So I got the dash out and was darn near attacked! apparently the mother did not like me sucking up the kids in the shop vac.
So I started to take more apart and the entire heater box is a nursery! including more adult field mice!!!!!!!!! I HATE MICE!!!!!!!!!!EWWWW
I would rather swim in a cow crap pond than deal with mice!!!!! I guess I have to take a lot more apart grrrr. Traps set Die mother F*&^%!


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #160, 08-06-2013 11:02 PM
      I told you! You really need to pull the blower motor and the AC Core. I guarantee you there is a nest in that duct work.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #161, 08-07-2013 07:25 AM
      Peanut butter for the win!!!!!!! Bye BYE mice! got 2 in the traps last night!

Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #162, 08-07-2013 12:47 PM
      Okay. Fine...

The Four MOUSEketeers.


86soon3.4 MSG #163, 08-07-2013 01:29 PM
      If Anyone Wants To Donate $ To The Rottin resurrection P.m. Me For My Paypal Address.

Steve


olejoedad (welch.joe.714@gmail.com) MSG #164, 08-07-2013 01:31 PM
      Dont forget to clean out the ductwork that is attached to the back of the dash......

av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #165, 08-07-2013 11:38 PM
      Well I went over to Rob's tonight to help wrench on the Will-Rottinchop and I can pretty confidently say that the mouse patrol is over. The car is just about stripped down and ready to be cleaned up and start reassembly. Rob will put up some pics in a bit I'm sure to show the progress. There is a long way to go to complete, but it'll get there. Talking with Rob the plan is to get the chassis assembled enough to proceed with body work first as we're in a bit of a time crunch for painting before the weather turns. We're going to start needing some parts soon, and someone to help wrench on it here and there would be great to speed this project along.

Either way we'll get it done, it's just a matter of time.

Thanks for watching


Chris, a member of
THE FOX VALLEY BOYS


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #166, 08-08-2013 12:06 AM
      Hey look! thumbs up, now that's more like it!

We totally gutted the fire wall and removed the heater box and took it all apart to clean out the nursery and fix all the mouse chew spots.

I will need to figure out a few wires, they had a code alarm security system tied in with the remote door poppers for the shaved door handles. Now there is a few out of place wires but I am sure Timm will help figure that out.

Decklid scoop showed up! Thanks Cowspatoot!

the house of mouse is now gone!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #167, 08-08-2013 12:19 AM
      Hey!! I would like to find a set of pedals out of a automatic before I get any farther mechanically, Tomorrow night I am going to be spending the night rebuilding the heater box and figuring out a material to replace the rotted poopy pee vent doors. I also need to figure out a seal for the heater core they ate that too.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #168, 08-08-2013 11:28 PM
      No pics tonight! Just a progress report, I spent the night cleaning and cleaning some more! I soaked the entire inside of the car down in engine cleaner then I hosed it out and vacuumed it out, then I took a very strong mix of bleach and water and went over the inside again then hosed it off and sucked it all up. I then once more took the engine cleaner to it and scrubbed it this time with a brush to get the remaining bits of mouse poo off the wiring. After that another rinse and suck and for good measure one more bleach treatment and rinse and then vacuumed it all up. It may be a bit OCD to to it that way but I do not want anyone getting in this thing and taking a chance of ever getting sick. now it is nice and clean.

After that I moved onto the heater box and all its parts and did the same process.

I will need a set of automatic pedals really soon, I have a steering column I think I can use. and I noticed the column boot is torn so I will need to figure out a fix for that so no more mice can get in.

I am still waiting on the nose situation to be figured out, Chuck and I seem to be playing phone tag due to me being in paint booth when he calls so I am not sure of the nose status.

John we need to figure out the rocker situation? are we going with stock style? if so we will need to find all that stuff or, are we going to try and find something like the Archie ones on my car?

Parts also that I see will be needing is a dash for sure, this one is toast and well I guess we need to figure out the color or do black like mine. I like black, it goes with any color carpet and seat.


Firefox MSG #169, 08-10-2013 10:41 PM
      The engine will be picked up tomorrow and delivered to Rob on Thursday. I'll be in Neenah for work and I'll drop it off after I'm finished up there. Another piece of the puzzle to get going....

Don....is the torque converter still available?

Mark


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #170, 08-11-2013 02:04 AM
      OK SO time for a update of cool things starting to happen! Time to see a bit of progress all be it that it is really the beginning stages so yes it looks a bit rough because it is!! . Any who, her we go I started to modify the gt rear clip today getting it ready for the big chop. I had to stop tho, I wont continue with the C pillars till after I get the new hips from Jimmy. but, what I mainly worked on today is setting up the gap for the 2 piece roof and getting all the mounting points were they need to be so it sits nice. I will have to shape the seam a bit but that's all minor tidly stuff as I go.
At this point it is not much to look at but what it is to look at is a bit of progress, ever slow as it may be.





And one last pic, I did a temp bond on the modified B pillar filler to hold it in position while I bond everything together, I will then flip it over after taking it off the car and do the glass work on the back. After all the back side stuff is done I will then redo this section so it is nice and flat and properly bonded and looking stock. I am probably being a bit over picky with this section in doing so but I want it to never have a issue ever. Plus I need to modify the area a bit to do my hybrid notchy / fastback hybrid sail window. More to come on that later.

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Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #171, 08-11-2013 03:20 AM
      I don't see any Popsicle sticks or duct tape....your doing it wrong...it will never hold....lol....seriously, It all looks good man!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #172, 08-11-2013 12:59 PM
      Hey Steve and I are out here plugging away in the rain sorting out the cradle and its bits, and we have come across the issue with the brake rotors hitting the metal parts of this upgraded hub mount thingy. We need to know who made it and is there a spacer that goes behind the Corvette rotor to keep it from rubbing on the black part shown in the pic. Also, the rotors are not drilled all that great and have a bit of a out of whack with the wheel studs but I am sure we can just clearance the holes a bit to address that. Here are the pics Identify what the heck kind of brackets these are???





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Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #173, 08-11-2013 02:08 PM
      You bet it is Mark,let me know when you want it.
Don



Firefox MSG #174, 08-11-2013 02:10 PM
      I'll PM you my phone number and set up a time to come and get it.

Thanks, Don!


fieroguru MSG #175, 08-11-2013 05:35 PM
      [QUOTE]Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Hey Steve and I are out here plugging away in the rain sorting out the cradle and its bits, and we have come across the issue with the brake rotors hitting the metal parts of this upgraded hub mount thingy. We need to know who made it and is there a spacer that goes behind the Corvette rotor to keep it from rubbing on the black part shown in the pic. Also, the rotors are not drilled all that great and have a bit of a out of whack with the wheel studs but I am sure we can just clearance the holes a bit to address that. Here are the pics Identify what the heck kind of brackets these are???



No idea where the brackets came from, but the rear wheel bearing is 1.65" thick and the front C4 12" rotor is 1.903" deep (inside hat to inboard rotor face). I don't have a rear one to measure right now, but assuming the same hat thickness, it would be 1.673". If the hat is thicker on the rear rotor, then it might fit.

That adapter plate might also cause CV housing interference with the backside of the upright as well, so it would be worth throwing an axle in it to make sure there aren't other issues.

What size wheels are planned? If they are 17" or larger, I will donate the hardware for my 13" kit - so the only additional cost would be the rotors. It uses the stock 88 calipers and parking brake cables.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #176, 08-11-2013 06:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fieroguru:


No idea where the brackets came from, but the rear wheel bearing is 1.65" thick and the front C4 12" rotor is 1.903" deep (inside hat to inboard rotor face). I don't have a rear one to measure right now, but assuming the same hat thickness, it would be 1.673". If the hat is thicker on the rear rotor, then it might fit.

That adapter plate might also cause CV housing interference with the backside of the upright as well, so it would be worth throwing an axle in it to make sure there aren't other issues.

What size wheels are planned? If they are 17" or larger, I will donate the hardware for my 13" kit - so the only additional cost would be the rotors. It uses the stock 88 calipers and parking brake cables.



Cool If I remember right the wheels are 18's so that would work. I think we have the rotors already I will go take pic and measure them.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #177, 08-11-2013 06:24 PM
      The wheels are 18's but I am pretty sure the rotors are 12 inch. here are a few pics





IFLYR22 (lunas0777@gmail.com) MSG #178, 08-11-2013 07:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:





Those look a lot like someones version of the old HT Motorsports 12" brake brackets (using Wilwood Dynalite calipers and Wilwood Rotors & Hats) for the 88's. I looked at pictures of my Ryan/Held Motorsports versions for the 84-87, and they are different, but similar. There is the spot for the Wilwood mechanical spot caliper (parking brake at top) and separate braking caliper (towards the rear).

-Dave

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #179, 08-11-2013 08:27 PM
      Alright guys, what is the best way through this issue?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #180, 08-11-2013 08:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Alright guys, what is the best way through this issue?


We sell the 12 inch rotors, get the 13 inch ones and take up fieroguru on his offer! and it is the easiest and you dont need to buy calipers then we just use the ones we already have!

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Firefox MSG #181, 08-11-2013 08:55 PM
      A little update on my end....

I have the engine. It's sitting in the back of the Suburban ready to roll up to Rob on Thursday.

I also ran out to Jefferson this afternoon and picked up the torque converter that Don Kraus graciously donated with a couple of other needed items. Thank you, Don!

Hey, Steve.....get ready for the engine!

Mark


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #182, 08-11-2013 10:02 PM
      Looks like it is all coming together!!!!!!!!!! Hey would anybody be willing to trade 12 inch corvette rotors for the 13 inch ones that work with Fierogurus brackets????????????

After diggin in boxes I found these shells of calipers too, they have no pistons in them are they for the 12 inch Corvette upgrade?

[img]http://images.fieroforum.com/2012/CIMG7178.JPG[/img


CowsPatoot MSG #183, 08-11-2013 11:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:
After diggin in boxes I found these shells of calipers too, they have no pistons in them are they for the 12 inch Corvette upgrade?



Those look like 84-87 calipers. In fact...those look like the 84-87 calipers that were originally being done for the Joel project.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #184, 08-11-2013 11:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CowsPatoot:


Those look like 84-87 calipers. In fact...those look like the 84-87 calipers that were originally being done for the Joel project.


Huh, Why did I not notice that! It has been a while since I saw stock ones I have grand am ones on mine.
Well if they are for that project I can try and send them if the post office would do that, but they are just shells, he took them apart I assume and lost the guts.

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CowsPatoot MSG #185, 08-11-2013 11:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


Huh, Why did I not notice that! It has been a while since I saw stock ones I have grand am ones on mine.
Well if they are for that project I can try and send them if the post office would do that, but they are just shells, he took them apart I assume and lost the guts.



Just dispose of them. I have another set that I will donate to the Georgia Fiero Club as we resurrect the Joel Project.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #186, 08-11-2013 11:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CowsPatoot:


Just dispose of them. I have another set that I will donate to the Georgia Fiero Club as we resurrect the Joel Project.


Will do, or I can hang onto them and if someone needs a core to rebuild they are solid I see no pitting in the bore.


Freak-Du-Fiero (freak.du.fiero@stny.rr.com) MSG #187, 08-12-2013 07:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Guys this just turns my stomach. I don't even have the words...


I've been looking at getting a project Fiero... now I'm starting to think that what I've been looking at are worth twice what I thought they were. Now to get past the first page and see how this turned out so far.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #188, 08-12-2013 11:11 PM
      So tonight I got a little farther. First I finished rebuilding the heater box and make all new seals for it so mice can never get in then around all the pipes and stuff were the mice chewed threw I sealed it further with a layer of 3m strip caulk wich is the same black gooey stuff they use around the pipes from the factory. After that I then got to work taking the old doors apart to salvage the parts I need to put the glass in the lambo doors. It got dark so I went shopping and picked up paint and bondo and I also purchased the carpet for the trunk for when we get that far.

Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #189, 08-13-2013 05:41 PM
      Looks like ill be bringing my Corvette up when I pick up the transmission. I'll be happy to donate and swap. If you still need. I'm looking at about the weekend of the 30th could be sooner, but i'm leaving my transmission guy some leeway.

Jake/Aaron


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #190, 08-13-2013 06:39 PM
      That's awesome! Contact fieroguru and he can walk you through the rotor retrieval and the drilling process he uses..

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #191, 08-13-2013 07:20 PM
      John pic for ya!
Shiny!

A few more!


OK now that that's up Diner time and back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #192, 08-13-2013 10:37 PM
      So I went back out to finish up installing the radiator and noticed a small issue, the orifice tube on the filler neck were the hose hooks up for the overflow tank had a crack in it. I managed to remove it in once piece and now I need to figure out a replacement. John do you have the receipt yet from Champion? It probably got cracked with all the moving from place to place and I would imagine Champion can just send us a new one. the threads in the filler neck are perfect. I sent a email to them and I hope to hear back by tomorrow or I will see if the guy at work in the machine shop can make a new one.


fieroguru MSG #193, 08-14-2013 06:41 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

That should be a 1/8 NPT fitting, any local hardware store should have them on the shelf for a buck of two. The barb end will be slightly different, but will work.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #194, 08-14-2013 08:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fieroguru:

That should be a 1/8 NPT fitting, any local hardware store should have them on the shelf for a buck of two. The barb end will be slightly different, but will work.


Good to know, I was thinking of replacing it with a brass one like that too.


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #195, 08-14-2013 08:40 AM
      Hey Rob I'm planning on coming over after work tonight to work on the car, I'll calll you later to see if you'll be around. What parts are in desperate need, must have now?

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #196, 08-14-2013 09:20 AM
      I would say the ground effects are what is an immediate need. Rob wants to get going on the bodywork. Let's see what he says.

redraif (redraif@yahoo.com) MSG #197, 08-14-2013 10:05 AM
      HOLY CRAP!!!! I guess I need to get here on more often. Life has been throwing curveballs our way for the past year and my indy has been on the back burner.

I feel like I just got blindsided by a bus... I'm so dumbfounded! First at the meeting this past weekend, I saw the pics of the Joel car as it sits.... the club told me to find your threads.... I can't believe what I've seen on this thread and the previous one... I'm heartbroken

John I'm so sorry this happened to you. Patty and I talked about what an awesome guy you were after we met you during the Joel car build. Your push to make sure everything was just so. Your contribution was so inspiring. I remember seeing your car when I was there for that build as well as during the moves. I was so excited to see what it would become. I'm so sad to see it ended like that. I was really hoping a certain someone was going to redeem himself in the end, but he let us all down. I got fed a lot of falsehoods it seems....

It warms my heart to see you have so many by you stepping up to help you get the car you deserve. I only wish I was closer so I could help. Fox valley rocks!

Ga fiero club is working the details here to get the Joel car straightened out , so at least I can contribute there. I will be following your thread and praying that everything stays smooth for you this time around!



av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #198, 08-14-2013 11:16 PM
      Well we made a little progress tonight, we reassembled most of the heater box and ducts, reinstalled most of the interior harness, and finished cleaning up everything in front of the windshield chassis wise. We also found more mice, and lots of weeds from this car's time in Texas. Hopefully that's the end of the mice, but I'm not so sure about the weeds. You'd be surprised where weeds can grow in a car from sitting in a field. This chassis is in excellent condition in spite of the mice and weeds, it's a great starting point for this project. We're really starting to need those missing body parts like the nose and ground effects. Hopefully those will get up here soon. It sounds like there's a set of automatic pedals on the way which is good so we'll be getting the rest of that together soon. All in all it's moving along. She'll be looking prettty in no time.

The Fox Valley Boys


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #199, 08-14-2013 11:52 PM
      Wash me in bleach and scrub me in brillo! MICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IwannaIRM (swags33@cableone.net) MSG #200, 08-15-2013 12:21 AM
     

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #201, 08-15-2013 12:37 AM
      Geoff from Champion Radiator sent me a reply, they are going to send out a replacement orifice tube for the radiator! Cool! now I do not have to make one!!

Oh and the size of the orifice tube on this radiator is 5/16 24 threads not 1/8th npt, I took the remains to work and had the machinist identify it for me since I no longer own a calipers.

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Synthesis (synssins@gmail.com) MSG #202, 08-15-2013 08:20 AM
      Still need the Auto pedal assembly? I have the entire bracket/pedal/bolt assembly that came out of my 86GT when we converted to manual...

Yours once I can find it.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #203, 08-15-2013 11:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Synthesis:

Still need the Auto pedal assembly? I have the entire bracket/pedal/bolt assembly that came out of my 86GT when we converted to manual...

Yours once I can find it.


Hey thanks for the offer Chris, but Timm already beat you to it and got us a pedal assembly
Battery cables tho.........


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #204, 08-17-2013 11:12 AM
      This weekend is kinda hit and miss with working on the car I will do some more tonight as I get home but I did get some done last night. The trunk is now prepped for the new sheet metal and I made a nice flange on the backside behind the tail lights to weld the new metal to. Also at work I had some metal braces leftover from a guard door I salvaged from one of our machines we build I will be using to reinforce the bottom side with so it has nice structure again and strength . I have some pics..........





I did a bunch more painting the other night too now everything up front is coated with a fresh coat of paint to keep it in nice shape

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86soon3.4 MSG #205, 08-18-2013 09:18 PM
      Bump...To The Top
Steve


NEVERDONE (torrezant@yahoo.com) MSG #206, 08-18-2013 11:17 PM
      Glad to see so much progress already on this! My opinion is try and re create what the original idea for the front bumper was. I don't think anyone has done that and would look kick a$$! Also, I noticed you needed the air intake setup. Do you need a stock 2.8? I have a complete setup I will donate. Let me know! Only cause John helped me out when I needed it!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #207, 08-18-2013 11:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NEVERDONE:

Glad to see so much progress already on this! My opinion is try and re create what the original idea for the front bumper was. I don't think anyone has done that and would look kick a$$! Also, I noticed you needed the air intake setup. Do you need a stock 2.8? I have a complete setup I will donate. Let me know! Only cause John helped me out when I needed it!


If we had more time I would probably tackle trying to make it look as it was first intended but as this is not the only car build I have going on right now and the general cost savings we are implementing with this build due to the loss John already incurred, we are keeping this a simple build leaning on the clean flowing look rather than the extreme mods and one off parts. After the initial build of the car and making it a running reliable unit we can revisit doing more modifications later on in its life. For now we have a really tight build schedule trying to complete it before thanksgiving.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #208, 08-19-2013 12:09 AM
      So on with the build!! I had family stuff going on for most of the day again today but I managed to sneak out early this morning and meet my weekend goal of removing all the rust from the trunk area and painting it. I also fixed up the drivers door and removed all the rust and painted it as well.


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NEVERDONE (torrezant@yahoo.com) MSG #209, 08-19-2013 10:29 AM
      Wow. Thats a tight deadline! let me know on the air intake.


infinitewill MSG #210, 08-19-2013 06:12 PM
      jetsnvettes2000 you have a PM

Dr. W.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #211, 08-19-2013 06:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by infinitewill:

jetsnvettes2000 you have a PM

Dr. W.



COOL! I replied!! Pack up the moving truck and get up here!!! It would be cool having another guy in the club!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #212, 08-19-2013 06:59 PM
      We have a bumper cover!!!!!! now, we just need all the mounting hardware including the egg crate!!! and metal bits on the bottom!!!

infinitewill MSG #213, 08-19-2013 07:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

We have a bumper cover!!!!!! now, we just need all the mounting hardware including the egg crate!!! and metal bits on the bottom!!!


I have a perfect front egg crate I can't use.

Dr. W.


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #214, 08-19-2013 09:52 PM
      Hey Rob I'm planning on coming up there tomorrow after work to help wrench on the chop. I'll call you before I head up to your place.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #215, 08-19-2013 10:13 PM
      Well, I can not say I love the nose but it is a nose at least now that I have it unpacked. It will need to be send off to be fixed up a bit before I would ever consider using it due to the cracks busted mounting hole slots and warping in the intake vent areas. Mark says Keystone bumper can fix things of sorts so when he gets his butt back here from Vegas I will get a hold of him and get prices to have it redone but if my memory serves me it is right around 100 bucks. After it gets redone I guess it will be good as new.







johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #216, 08-19-2013 10:27 PM
      Get all excited then we get a kick to the nuts again....

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #217, 08-19-2013 10:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Get all excited then we get a kick to the nuts again....


Ya kinda but, mark wanted to send it off to be stripped anyway so either way it would have been going to keystone I wouldn't dwell on it, it is a minor setback.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #218, 08-19-2013 10:35 PM
      Thanks Rob. Means a great deal. I am finally back up to speed on PMs and emails as of this evening. One person even had brand new items!!! Alas, after the monetary loss that we started with on this car I have to just wish I could afford all new items. That would make the build super uncomplicated!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #219, 08-19-2013 10:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Thanks Rob. Means a great deal. I am finally back up to speed on PMs and emails as of this evening. One person even had brand new items!!! Alas, after the monetary loss that we started with on this car I have to just wish I could afford all new items. That would make the build super uncomplicated!


Very cool! If they only had new seats and dash too


86 toy MSG #220, 08-19-2013 11:31 PM
      i have an aero front bumper you guys could have but i don't know how i would get it from PA to you.. its a little warped but i don't think its busted like that one.. if you have an idea let me know and i'll email you some good pics of its condition..



JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #221, 08-20-2013 02:34 AM
      For what your going to spend on Keystone to fix it just to have it warp again, you might be better served spending a few extra bucks for a fiberglass one and be done with it. Just a thought.

86soon3.4 MSG #222, 08-20-2013 09:00 PM
      Going to be hauling some fenders, ground affects, wheel well liners and misc. nose parts on Saturday to Rob's.

Picking up the Rottin Resurrection 3800SC to be resealed and cleaned up.

Steve


86soon3.4 MSG #223, 08-20-2013 09:01 PM
      If anybody would like to donate $ to this project please P.M. me.

Steve


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #224, 08-22-2013 08:54 AM
      The aluminum flare fitting threads are N F G for the trans cooler in the radiator. They will have to be repaired. We did get the trans cooler lines in though. Slow but sure progress. Still waiting on some parts.

Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #225, 08-22-2013 05:04 PM
      Bad news, Won't be able to bring my Corvette when I come up. Too much crap. So that means the brake swap is out. I have the engine vents and a new unused throttle cable for 86 GT. I'm planning on the weekend of the 7th. See y'all then.

Jake


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #226, 08-22-2013 06:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bigjake34:

Bad news, Won't be able to bring my Corvette when I come up. Too much crap. So that means the brake swap is out. I have the engine vents and a new unused throttle cable for 86 GT. I'm planning on the weekend of the 7th. See y'all then.

Jake


Cool, but you can keep the cable, we need one for a 88 duke


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #227, 08-22-2013 06:45 PM
      WTF!!!!!!!!you have to be friggin kidding me! OK so I got a letter in the mail today from Champion radiator, I'm thinking cool the nipple is here for the overflow. Well I take it out of the mail box and the damn end is ripped open! the nipple is GONE!!!! WTF you have to be kidding me! What are the chances the idiots at the post office thought it was a bullet and tore open the package only for it to fall out when the damn mail man was walking around? Why even give me the friggin letter knowing it was damaged hmmm first hint possibly???? Ok this is the second bullsh-t thing I have had to deal with them today, I heard from John the lambo buckets I sent out also never made it to their destination again WTF!!! I sent those out 2 Saturdays ago!!!!



SO now what do I do, do I message Champion again and tell them what happened? THEY SENT THIS FREE to begin with! UGH ok rant over this week has been OH YAY it cam OH NO! it sucks, FIrst the bumper then the thread issue with the trani lines and now this wow I hope this is the only drama we have with the whole build!!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #228, 08-22-2013 07:32 PM
      Hey who here lives in Danelsville GA 30633? I think the lambo buckets may have went to wrong place???

fierofool (cmmsewell@gmail.com) MSG #229, 08-22-2013 08:04 PM
      Psychosurfer isn't far from Danielsville. And I'm not far away if he isn't available.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #230, 08-22-2013 09:13 PM
      Postal prices go up and the service gets worse. I still have not received the stencil I ordered from fiero sails. It was shipped 3 weeks ago!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #231, 08-22-2013 10:04 PM
      OK I AM NOT GOING NUTS! I found the tracking number for the package going to Georgia, and as I thought I sent it out 2 weeks ago Saturday on the 10th and according to the postal service web site it was delivered on the 13th. Hmmm I just hope the postal worker put it at the right house!!!!
Anyway after getting all in a tizzy over that I got back to work and did a little more work to the roof seam tonight and cleaned up the gap making it even all the way across and shaping the uneven corners so they are symmetrical<---------a word not in Deans vocabulary LOL!! ok I worked right till after dark so the pics probably suck but here is a few!!
Left I think

Right


The stick in the pic is a measuring tool to set the gap I just have it stuffed under the roof so I didn't loose it

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #232, 08-22-2013 10:29 PM
      So Geof at Champion is sending yet another overflow nipple, I think this time he will label it lol!

Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #233, 08-23-2013 01:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

So Geof at Champion is sending yet another overflow nipple, I think this time he will label it lol!


Someone at Post office Prolly saw the word nipple and got excited, only to be disappointed and chucked the piece across the post office out of frustration. Maybe better if he sends it in a loud bright package that wont be confused for a viagra or fleshlight delivery....lol

sorry, being quiet now...lol just the old soldier in me slipping out...hee hee hee


carbon MSG #234, 08-23-2013 09:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

So Geof at Champion is sending yet another overflow nipple, I think this time he will label it lol!


Or put it in a flat rate or small box...


tebailey (tebailey@charter.net) MSG #235, 08-23-2013 06:08 PM
      The post office more than likely delivered the package to the wrong address. I lost a $60 package that way. As I was told by a post office official they delivered it so they did their job.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #236, 08-23-2013 07:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tebailey:

The post office more than likely delivered the package to the wrong address. I lost a $60 package that way. As I was told by a post office official they delivered it so they did their job.


I hope that is not the case, the fella that got the lights graciously donated way more to the project than they were worth, I would hate to see them end up in the wrong hands and in someones garbage.


psychosurfer MSG #237, 08-23-2013 07:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierofool:

Psychosurfer isn't far from Danielsville. And I'm not far away if he isn't available.


I am about ten minutes from Danielsville, GA PM me how I may be able to help.



86soon3.4 MSG #238, 08-24-2013 07:36 PM
      We still need an 88 Duke throttle cable. (may use the stock 88 v-6 cable if we have too)
Needing a non oil fill valve cover for the engine. (the one on the engine has a hole in it)


John, did you want the engine/SC painted? Keep the EGR or delete? High or low mount alternator?
Preference on a muffler? Did you want a cat on the exhaust?


Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #239, 08-25-2013 12:56 AM
      Well, the engine trani and cradle are now up north with Steve and will be going together soon!
Tonight I got back to work on it a bit and decided to junk the original roof. All the time sitting in the Texas sun took it's toll on it and well it was just easier to start over with a fresh one and by luck I had one here from a car I parted out earlier this summer. I spent the rest of the night getting it mounted and cutting the back down to fit. I have some finishing trimming yet to do but man I mad the right choice with the new top, it will save me tons of time and material vs the old one. As it sits on it right now it is really even across the seam area between it and the rear clip roof area vs the old one that was high low the width of the roof. At this point as soon as I get the gap set between the two panels all I have to do is shim up the rear clip a washers thickness and done, sittin pretty with no mud work to do to even it out. Once I get the back side sorted out then I will make small relief cuts in the tops of the a pillars and re-glass them and done. Soon as the front bumper and hips get here this thing will really start looking like a car finally! JOHN!!!!!!!!! get a hold of Jimmy!!!!! he is waiting on word about the transaction.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #240, 08-25-2013 12:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 86soon3.4:

We still need an 88 Duke throttle cable. (may use the stock 88 v-6 cable if we have too)
Needing a non oil fill valve cover for the engine. (the one on the engine has a hole in it)


John, did you want the engine/SC painted? Keep the EGR or delete? High or low mount alternator?
Preference on a muffler? Did you want a cat on the exhaust?
Steve

I am not so sure putting a cat on the exhaust will be a good idea, at first it may be ok but I think after all the crying hissing and funny noises die down it's probably going to start to stink after while and attract flys and other critters like maggots and other scavengers.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #241, 08-26-2013 11:44 PM
      Well, did not get the chance to work on the car today, the heat was just to crazy to stand out under the sun in. Last night however I did manage to sneak out there for a bit and worked on the new roof panel fitting it and getting the seam between the roof panel and the rear clip nice and even as I did the original roof. All I need to do now is perfect the corners of the roof seam a bit and then rebond the a pillar tops to the roof again were I made the relief cuts.




John!! Get ahold of Jimmy!! I want to finalize the rear clip soon but need the hips to do so! They will be shipped with the nose!

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #242, 08-27-2013 10:08 PM
      Sorry guys, a load of stuff happening in my world. I contacted Jimmy and the arrangements are made.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #243, 08-27-2013 10:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Sorry guys, a load of stuff happening in my world. I contacted Jimmy and the arrangements are made.


Sweet givin world situation we figured you got deployed.


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #244, 08-27-2013 10:28 PM
      Rob I should be up there Thursday. I'll call before I show up

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #245, 08-27-2013 11:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by av8fiero:

Rob I should be up there Thursday. I'll call before I show up


Groovy! I will try and have the a pillars bonded so we can work on the back side of the roof section.


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #246, 08-28-2013 01:16 AM
      Arranged and invoice sent.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #247, 08-28-2013 08:12 AM
      JImmy pm sent

Firefox MSG #248, 08-28-2013 11:24 PM
      Hey, Rob......why hasn't this been finished yet? I gave you almost 2 weeks of not bothering you and what do I see tonight? An incomplete car! Get-R-Done!

Mark ( back from Vegas )


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #249, 08-29-2013 12:29 AM
      LOL everything in moderation! I got a bunch done tonight no pics tho was too busy working to take them.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #250, 08-29-2013 09:40 PM
      Did some shaping tonight, I did not get much time to work on it. Tonight I donated my camper to the Shriners and had to cut down a stump to get it out of my back yard.

VikingRedBaron (vikingredbaron@juno.com) MSG #251, 08-29-2013 10:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

I donated my camper to the Shriners and had to cut down a stump to get it out of my back yard.


Sounds like it has been there a while


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #252, 08-29-2013 11:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by VikingRedBaron:


Sounds like it has been there a while


LOL no it was just blocked in by the Rottin chop and my other trailer. It was just easier to finally after 6 years of being cut down finally level the stump to the ground so I can get stuff around the other side of my house. Good news is now I can move the big trailer over and have room to take the body off the frame of my corvette sitting next to the house lol like I need another project! seriously tho it is part of the plan to flip the finger to the city and possibly set up my booth with a temporary structure around it since the city rules say no permanent structures due to me already having too many out buildings.

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Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #253, 08-30-2013 01:02 AM
      OK, sorry....The engine compartment top vents are not gonna make it. I looked last weekend, but couldnt find them...Wife assured me they were in the storage shed, and she would get them out for me. Got home this week and nada, now she said she thinks she chucked them when we moved. Sorry, I really dont mean to let y'all down, I feel horrible about it. I do have headlight doors and notch tail lights...lol and a bunch of random crap for notchie. I'd gladly donate it and it could be sold in mall to defray some of the costs.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #254, 08-30-2013 08:21 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bigjake34:

OK, sorry....The engine compartment top vents are not gonna make it. I looked last weekend, but couldnt find them...Wife assured me they were in the storage shed, and she would get them out for me. Got home this week and nada, now she said she thinks she chucked them when we moved. Sorry, I really dont mean to let y'all down, I feel horrible about it. I do have headlight doors and notch tail lights...lol and a bunch of random crap for notchie. I'd gladly donate it and it could be sold in mall to defray some of the costs.


OK no problem, I will call Archie, when I talked to him last he said he may have some decklid vents around the shop someplace.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #255, 09-03-2013 03:22 PM
      Took care of Nose and hips with Jimmy. Will also send tapered rockers and quaarter panels.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #256, 09-03-2013 10:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Took care of Nose and hips with Jimmy. Will also send tapered rockers and quaarter panels.


Cool glad to see your still with us! I had to take a small Break from it a few days and get some work done on that crusty old Corvette in my garage but tomorrow or friday for sure I will be back on it hammering away! I still need to figure out the situation with the radiator, I think we will run a external cooler for the trani I have one here so no need to buy one. Has anyone come up with any ideas for a dash yet? we still need one bad! I was looking in another thread on here and someone was using a diffrent kind of seat that would look really cool in this car I think, and they were cheap too I guess they can be found on Ebay. We should explore that option.


LEEEZARD (cobalt964ruf@aol.com) MSG #257, 09-03-2013 10:37 PM
      I have a pair of decklid vents I would donate if someone will pick up the shipping. how do I tell if they are gt or not?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #258, 09-04-2013 12:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by LEEEZARD:

I have a pair of decklid vents I would donate if someone will pick up the shipping. how do I tell if they are gt or not?


Gt ones are bigger a bit and rounded on the back side and outboard side. notch back ones are just a rectangle


LEEEZARD (cobalt964ruf@aol.com) MSG #259, 09-04-2013 06:23 AM
      ok ill look at them again tomorrow and let you know which I have

Bigjake34 (xlucifer33@yahoo.com) MSG #260, 09-08-2013 11:26 AM
      it was good to see the progress in person. Enjoy the Trans cooler and I'll check those lights out. Thanks for everything and I'll be back up in a few weeks.

Jake


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #261, 09-08-2013 04:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bigjake34:

it was good to see the progress in person. Enjoy the Trans cooler and I'll check those lights out. Thanks for everything and I'll be back up in a few weeks.

Jake


The trans cooler will be a huge help! also with his son driving it will help keep the trani nice and cool while he is testing the speed limit


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #262, 09-08-2013 07:18 PM
      He will only get to test it once...then no more driving for him!

86soon3.4 MSG #263, 09-08-2013 07:22 PM
      John...You Have A P.m.
Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #264, 09-08-2013 08:38 PM
      Trani cooler installed! And tonight Chris and I started rebuilding the headlight motors. These are very special as thy have my prototype bushings in them. If they work out I will be offering them for sale and they will be the last ones you will ever need to buy they are made out of polyurethane. unlike the ford ones and originals they will not shrink dry out crack or crumble.

av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #265, 09-09-2013 08:55 AM
      Well the project is moving along, but we're really in need of some parts to keep this moving along. Just about everything is done that can be done without those needed pieces. Hopefully they will get there soon. Rob if there are any pieces still required but not on the way maybe you could put up an updated list of what is needed. Oh, and by the way don't lose that spring !!! LOL!!!! Also if anyone can lend a hand it would be greatly appreciated. It's getting there, LET'S GET IT DONE!

Firefox MSG #266, 09-09-2013 09:21 PM
      And when will it be ready for a trip to Milwaukee?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #267, 09-09-2013 09:44 PM
      JOHN Call JIMMY$$$

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #268, 09-11-2013 11:10 AM
      Called him and sorted it out. Looks like we have all the body bits sorted out and soon underway to you Rob!

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #269, 09-11-2013 10:11 PM
      Tapered Ground Effects and GT Style #1 Side scoops went out today. F355 Front Bumper and Hips will ship end of the week or beginning of next week.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #270, 09-11-2013 10:19 PM
      OK cool, now hey I need to concentrate on body work and stuff, so I am not worrying about gathering and shipping stuff to people at the moment I just do not have enough daylight to play with it now to divert my attention like that till later on when I have the grunt work done. I basically have 3 weeks before the weather turns to crap so I need to really get the body in order. There is stuff I desperately need yet to move forward, I still need the brake pedal assembly so I can get the front of the car back together and get the steering column back in . I also will need to have the wire harness soon and I am just about ready to move forward with some of the interior parts covering them with the materials we are using. I also really need a dash yet too. We will eventually need to figure out the brakes but fore now I am just going to keep the stock ones intact on it till the more important things are done. If anyone has a gt steering wheel we could use that as well. Also still need gt engine grills and lock set.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #271, 09-14-2013 03:02 PM
      Well, the rear clip ios prepped and ready to make the cuts to finish the chop, I am just waiting on the new hip sections to get here then I can make the cuts and do the bonding of the new parts and lowering of the C pillars. I went to Gibbys today and went shopping John you owe me a gazillion dollars and 3 cents lol! I picked up the brake pedal assembly since I had to pull it anyway to get the the shift cable I needed and I grabbed the turn signal lights needed for the new nose and well the cable as well. Now that I have these parts I can put the rest of the front end together and trunk section and have a major part of the front of the car finished up. After the front bumper arrives I just need to bolt it on and fit it and make a few modifications I need to make that Jimmy suggested then I can extend the blinker wires and add the new plugs (picked those up too) and wrap up that part. Afte that the front end should be wrapped up and I will move onto the front fender mods adding the trim parts and prepping them for primer. The hood just needs to be sanded down and will be ready for paint. last night I spent the night sanding down the roof section and it is now ready for finishing body work and primer I still need to fine tune the rear section over the top of the car but it is getting closer every day. Ok back to work!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #272, 09-14-2013 05:05 PM
      Looks like Christmas time!!! By the way, I Googled "Gaziilion". Do how many zeros are there in that number? Holy jeppers!

JohnWPB MSG #273, 09-14-2013 08:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Looks like Christmas time!!! By the way, I Googled "Gaziilion". Do how many zeros are there in that number? Holy jeppers!


You got off pretty good then..... a crapload of 0's, and .03 cents. Sounds like a deal to me



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #274, 09-14-2013 09:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Looks like Christmas time!!! By the way, I Googled "Gaziilion". Do how many zeros are there in that number? Holy jeppers!


Google this "Do A Barrel Roll" it will be just like going to work!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #275, 09-15-2013 07:24 PM
      So i got a bit more work done between the rain drops today and ran into a question, is there a separate switch on the brake pedal assembly for the cruise control? I am still having issues figuring out all the wiring under there as it was cut up for things Will had installed. Timm!! could really use some help figuring this out!!!! I also started fitting the new Jimmys door rockers trim parts. I will be modifying them a tad to add mounting studs on the back side but other than that they are fitted and ready to go! I also fitted the lower front fender trim parts but again I will be adding a few mounting studs to make them more solid instead of just gluing them on. Had a nice Chat with Jimmy about them and he is doing same thing with his.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #276, 09-16-2013 10:39 PM
      Parts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! finally some showed up!!!!!!!!!!! So, I got to work! Hey Jimmy! guess what lol like I said 1 hour and I had all the holes drilled and cut out and parts fitted! here is a sneak peak John


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #277, 09-17-2013 09:18 PM
      So tonight I fitted the other side rocker and well now they are ready to be prepped for paint. I will be needing some primer soon! I have bigger issues tho the weather is getting damn cold and I am running out of daylight! the parts delays are really costing me time and those damn time burglars are going to ruin any chance of this getting done by the time I want to finish it!! We need asap the engine gaskets, the wire harness sorted out, the dash and a decision on paint color and supplies. Also at some point tires for those rims would be cool or I have a set of older ones I can toss on it for now to get it on its wheels. I will also need lug nuts for those wheels to put them on if they require anything other than stock ones. I have parts to ship to those who want those parts but that will have to wait till next month after I get paid ( being paid monthly sucks ass by the way). After the kids go to bed I am heading out to the garage and will be working on more stuff. I started to prep the trim panel behind the seat to be recovered and now I just need to sand it down a bit and cover it in the leatheret. the door trim parts are ready to be covered too but I may need more material as I am already using leftovers that i had from when I did mine. I will be needing tan colored head liner material too I have the headliner board prepped and ready for material. the boot for the steering column is torn does anyone have one in a parts car? I would love to put a new one in before I finish installing the steering column.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #278, 09-17-2013 11:40 PM
      So went back out to work for a bit and finished up making the front trim piece to the style of sail panel I came up with on my chop. John was a big fan of how I did mine so we are doing it to his too and well here are the parts they are done just need scuff and paint.


Here is how it clips on, the original spot were the metal clip was is just modified slightly and it tucks behind the white tab on the gt clip then the backside is 3m taped to the sail window glass I have to make that yet but cant till i get the final shape of the c pillar done. oh and I need a sheet of tinted poly-carbonate.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #279, 09-21-2013 08:55 PM
      Got a little more work done today, Started fitting the deck lid scoop and cutting a big ass hole in the deck lid! PIcs ok here are some pics. the scoop is really rough and will need lots of tlc to look right but no problem its just time.





jetsnvettes2000 MSG #280, 09-22-2013 02:17 AM
      Ok so it is just me and the crickets here loosing sleep over this. SO, I am going to post a updated list of things needed for this car.

1. Dash
2. lock set for gt
3. seats
4. headliner fabric (tan)
5. few more yards of leatheret I don't have enough
6. Rotors and hardware to fit Fieroguru's setup
7. the brake brackets from Fieroguru
8. gt steering wheel I have horn button
9. tires and lug nuts (subject to change if the wheels get swapped out due to conversation with John)
10. WIRE HARNESS!!!!!!! I have been trying to get a hold of Phonedawgz
11. Steve needs all the engine gaskets and whatever fuel parts from the guy I work with. PM 86soon3.4 for that list I am worrying about the body.
12. piece of sheet metal for trunk floor
13. 3m window weld polyurathane 1 tube
14. High build primer 1 gallon marhyde chamos color (my preference I like the stuff)
15. PAINT COLOR<-------------John get with Firefox and figure out those details and budget
16. Tan carpet to match the roof fabric
17. tan carpet for door panel bottoms
18. Reminder for me to cover top of door panel with leatheret when I get more material
19. 1 quart of wellwood contact cement
20. rubber trim for around windshield
21. redo seal track above door (take it off and put it back on with something to seal it from water leaking between it and the chasi)
22. re adjust the doors one last time and install the glass chop windows and dew wipes
23.paint interior parts that need to be painted
24. Radio?? ? ? and speakers ones in car were destroyed by the mice
25. blinker fluid and muffler grease
26. kinifter pins for the rocket booster
27. horn? stock one or something fun? OOOOOOOOOOOga!
28. mesh for vents?
29. send off the computer for reprogramming but, STEVE.....need to know the details so I will just forward the form to you to fill out
30. Archie c pillar parts for chop top and stock trim parts for the other half of them.
31. deck lid vent grills

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #281, 09-22-2013 07:21 PM
      John, there is a fella parting out a gt in Michigan and it has basically 90 percent of the missing stuff we need he sent you a pm.
Can anybody take a few pics of the back side of the fuse block? I have a few wires that I just cannot figure out due to them being cut off and extended with another. one is orange with black stripe and another is red that comes off one of the 3 power accessory ports.


oldbikeracer (gascaleman@att.net) MSG #282, 09-23-2013 09:53 AM
      Do not know a source for the blinker fluid. Muffler grease is easy. Go to your local pond and follow the geese around, they will leave some white deposits on the ground. Collect these deposits until you have a good supply. It will need no further processing, use full strength for best results.

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #283, 09-23-2013 01:13 PM
      Rob, Offer has ben PM'd. Let's proceed. I will paypal Archie for the choptop triangles you need as well. That should get things cooking!!!!

86soon3.4 MSG #284, 09-23-2013 01:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Rob, Offer has ben PM'd. Let's proceed. I will paypal Archie for the choptop triangles you need as well. That should get things cooking!!!!


John, did you get my P.M.????


Steve


scott0999 (scott099@juno.com) MSG #285, 09-23-2013 01:47 PM
      wish I knew how to do body work, but I'm pretty good with everything else. I would just be sitting there watching you or asking what to do the whole time lol

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #286, 09-23-2013 07:17 PM
      ok so this post is just for Mark, once we getthe parts car these are the things i want off of it so I can move forward even faster.

1. the entire interior including dash and wire harnesses
2. the battery tray.
3. the trunk carpet if its in good shape otherwise I have stuff I bought to make it but its black.
4. Tim is sending me the lower parts of the sail window trim so I can get started with that when the Archie parts come
5. the passenger side mirror if it is power
6. pictures of the wire harness before you pull it out of car next to the steering column and the white junction block on the firewall so I know were it all plugs in.
7. the steering column and then I will give you one of the ones here to put back in it so it can be steered around your place.
the switches on the brake pedal I have the light switch but I think there may be another for the cruise? take a pic of the bracket about pedal too.
8. bring me Popeye's chicken I am fat bald and hungry.
9. number 8. is really important
10 . so is 9.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #287, 09-23-2013 07:21 PM
      Friends in Michigan around grand rapids!!!! we need some help!!!!! We are obviously getting a second parts car and could use a little help getting it here, I would if possible set up a relay between here and Milwaukee to minimize the fuel cost and time to transport the car. so, could anybody in the area with a car trailer possibly pick it up and get it to lower Michigan and then possibly meet someone there to get it a little farther say Chicago area/ v-8 Archie area and then mark meet them say maybe there to go the rest of the way? or something of the sorts? it would be really appreciated if we could do some kind of relay.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #288, 09-23-2013 07:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 86soon3.4:


John, did you get my P.M.????


Steve


Steve, engine on hold for just a bit, I will call you.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #289, 09-23-2013 07:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by scott0999:

wish I knew how to do body work, but I'm pretty good with everything else. I would just be sitting there watching you or asking what to do the whole time lol


That everything else we need, want to play with some wires?


nutherproject68 MSG #290, 09-23-2013 08:12 PM
      Here are some pics of the donor car that I have. The car sat outside for 6 years and got hit during that time so it looks a bit rough:












The ratchet strap is keeping the sunroof watertight. It latch somehow broke while we were getting the car off the trailer.


solotwo MSG #291, 09-23-2013 09:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by nutherproject68:

Here are some pics of the donor car that I have. The car sat outside for 6 years and got hit during that time so it looks a bit rough:












The ratchet strap is keeping the sunroof watertight. It latch somehow broke while we were getting the car off the trailer.


I went over to look at the car. I noticed a lot of good parts on the car. Tim commented that it had rear defrost. I saw some parts I could use for my car. LOL

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #292, 09-23-2013 09:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by solotwo:


I went over to look at the car. I noticed a lot of good parts on the car. Tim commented on how good the glass looked for the year of the car. I saw some parts I could use for my car. LOL


If what you need is something we do not make a offer on the parts? John will need to recover as much of the cost in getting this car as possible so once the parts we need are off it the rest will be up for sale.


solotwo MSG #293, 09-23-2013 09:48 PM
      I am looking for splash guards.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #294, 09-23-2013 10:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by solotwo:

I am looking for splash guards.


pm sent


JohnWPB MSG #295, 09-24-2013 05:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

I have a few wires that I just cannot figure out due to them being cut off and extended with another. one is orange with black stripe and another is red that comes off one of the 3 power accessory ports.


I tried taking a few photo's of the back of the fuse block, and you really can not see where anything is going. The bundle going in just block where the wires end up going. I shot a HD video with my Galaxy S3 phone, and hope it is of some help. I figured moving it around you can see different angles, and pause the video when you see something that you were looking for. I hope it helps!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #296, 09-24-2013 06:40 PM
      Cool without even pressing play on the vid I see that pesky orange with black stripe wire!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #297, 09-28-2013 09:44 PM
      Did a bunch of bonding today!! all the trim fiberglass parts are glued and screwed!! the decklid scoop is also bonded! now once the bumper and hips get here I can plow threw the rest of the work!!! fun fun! i would take pics but its too dark and raining now.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #298, 10-01-2013 09:18 PM
      HIP SURGERY!!!!!!
First cut is always the nervous one!! Naw I got this so the series of cuts you are about to see is to remove the existing skin.


Here is the new hip from the corner to the inside corner were you cut on old one.

OFF with ye hips!

OK now that we have the hip off we need to change a few things with the bonding surface

The hips come with this front filler piece already molded in, Cut it out so you can see down the inside of the hip to check your bonding surface.

First sand off all the old glue and on the top bonding surface sand it down on a 45% angle about a half inch wide to change the angle of the bonding surface to match the round back of the new hips, factory parts were press molded so they were square and you have to account for the hand laid glass in areas so fit grind fit grind as many times as it takes.

were the bonding surface rounds up for the sail panel will have to be modified a bit if you are using these with a choptop

right in the corner make a cut along the vertical surface you will understand later on


cut the screw and rivet surfaces off the bonding surface, they come on the new hips also make sure you bevel undercut it when you do to make a angled surface to bond to the new hip due to the new hips having rounded internal corners.

Try a dry fit at this point it will be close but needs more cuts yet

Before you remove the original hip, take note of the gap here and make a spacer to set the new hip with


the back edge will not line up, this is the very first set of these hips remember so a bit if tweaking will nee dto be done. the front of the hip overlaps the bottom surface about a 1/8 to quarter inch to allow the rocker panel top to fit into flush, use the front of the hip to set were it goes with a rocker vent scoop area thingy in place.

There will be a bit of a gap at the back side bonding area, that is not a problem as the hips are now wider this gap is kinda nice actually now I can get a nice bed of glue up under there.

temporarily clamp it down in a few spots and fit the c pillar if you Have a chop, if you have a bubble top just fit the cut line a bit.

With all this going on with a choptop and hip changes I reccomend having the new chop top trim parts to help set everything in place as you fit stuff so you know they fit once everything is bonded.

If you did it right, it should all hold itself together without any glue! here is a nice preview of what it sorta looks like!


One thing to note, on the back lower corners of the bonding surface cut it off at a angle a bit, it will help with the hip fitting. I will take more pics as I do the final fit before bonding. Also, I plan on using a bonding strip on the back sides of the panels between the parts like the factory did on corvettes.


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #299, 10-01-2013 09:53 PM
     

Carcenomy MSG #300, 10-02-2013 02:07 AM
      Woah, those look sharp! Keep up the good work lads!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #301, 10-02-2013 10:05 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroMaster88:

I can not wait to see this car completed! I wish I could help.


You can always help...by sending good vibes! Just keep the positive thoughts going whether it is my car, yours, or anothers that are encountering trouble. help others were you can and cheer on those that help others when they do. It's all good!!!!


TopNotch MSG #302, 10-02-2013 10:38 AM
      This car is destined to be a trophy winner. I imagine that it will be a hit at the Fiero 35th (where ever that will be).


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #303, 10-02-2013 08:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by TopNotch:

This car is destined to be a trophy winner. I imagine that it will be a hit at the Fiero 35th (where ever that will be).


LOL I hope so!!! it is looking bad ass even as rough as it is in it's present state!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #304, 10-02-2013 08:37 PM
      How about a few pics!!!!!!
Tonight I bonded the rear hips! as I type they are drying and I am nervous as hell I hope they stay put till the glue dries!!!!!!!





86 toy MSG #305, 10-02-2013 09:42 PM
      Where's the like button? This is some awesome stuff.. keep up the awesome work and progress



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #306, 10-02-2013 11:49 PM
      Just checked the bonding glue and it is finally setting up! grrr sick of the cold I need to rewind time a few weeks!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #307, 10-03-2013 12:33 AM
      Ugh glue only tacked up so I have to leave my new clamps on overnight but, things are looking ok so far. I droped the decklid to se if things were close to lined up and so far so good!


Ok that's it for a few days!! rain coming!!!!! time for bed!


Gokart Mozart MSG #308, 10-03-2013 05:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by oldbikeracer:

Do not know a source for the blinker fluid. Muffler grease is easy. Go to your local pond and follow the geese around, they will leave some white deposits on the ground. Collect these deposits until you have a good supply. It will need no further processing, use full strength for best results.


http://kalecoauto.com/ has the blinker fluid but carry muffler bearings instead of grease.


JohnWPB MSG #309, 10-03-2013 05:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by TopNotch:

This car is destined to be a trophy winner. I imagine that it will be a hit at the Fiero 35th (where ever that will be).


Why wait for the 35th? Bring it down here at the end of March for the Daytona Beach Fiero Show!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #310, 10-03-2013 03:26 PM
      You know a lot of people dont know how to, or the improtance of, checking and maintaining your blinker fluid levels. Here is a quick DIY on the proper procedure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxkHqPXwNZ4

The Rottinchop will run sealed blinkers so no checks required!!!

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Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #311, 10-03-2013 08:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

HIP SURGERY!!!!!!
...


Did y'all get the first set?
I certainly hope so. Would be poetic justice if that were the case.

Either way... Looking good!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #312, 10-03-2013 08:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Raydar:


Did y'all get the first set?
I certainly hope so. Would be poetic justice if that were the case.

Either way... Looking good!


YUP number 1 all bonded and now figuring out how to make the gas door work being the area is wider now


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #313, 10-03-2013 08:56 PM
      Hey John you forgot about the muffler bearings!!!

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JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #314, 10-03-2013 09:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Raydar:


Did y'all get the first set?
I certainly hope so. Would be poetic justice if that were the case.

Either way... Looking good!


I made absolutely certain that Johnny received the very first set out of the molds.


Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #315, 10-03-2013 09:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:

I made absolutely certain that Johnny received the very first set out of the molds.


I kind of figured that was the case.
Good on ya'!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #316, 10-03-2013 10:09 PM
      Went out and did a little work between the rain drops tonight, I final fit the right hand c pillar and temp bonded it in to see how it looks. Tomorrow if I t's not raining I will bond it in all the way and do the fiberglass right away.




johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #317, 10-03-2013 10:42 PM
      Those are some sexy hips! Darn...forgot about those muffler bearings though. She is looking good now. Can't wait to see her with nose, tail, and everything in between.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #318, 10-06-2013 08:14 PM
      Just about vaporized my sand paper supply grrr will need more but anyway, here are some pics! got a bit farther today but finally had to end. It is getting too damn cold here!! and the lack of daylight is really starting to suck!

Rough shaping the C pillars and making the channel I set my style sail window in







86soon3.4 MSG #319, 10-06-2013 08:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Just about vaporized my sand paper supply grrr will need more but anyway, here are some pics! got a bit farther today but finally had to end. It is getting too damn cold here!! and the lack of daylight is really starting to suck!

Rough shaping the C pillars and making the channel I set my style sail window in






I Should Have Gave You The Sand Paper I Have In My Basement.

Steve


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #320, 10-07-2013 08:16 PM
      Teaser Pic from Rob:



Pssst, Rob....I don't think that is where the armrests bolt on.

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #321, 10-07-2013 08:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:








Are you glassing these joints from the inside also?

Archie

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #322, 10-07-2013 09:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Are glassing these joints from the inside also?

Archie


Yup, Plus I am adding additional structure inside the c pillar as well and double layering the inside panel that the outer skin is bonded to. Over all it will have 6 to 8 different layers when done.
Right now with the outer skin glassed from the outside and inside I can stand on it but I am still adding more just to be safe. the thickness at the bonds right now is about triple the thickness of the stock fiberglass that way I can fine tune the shape sanding if I have to later on.
I think I may add 2 more layers of glass again to the inside too just in case I change things a bit.

I have a idea to do one more tweak to the sail area and I will need to beef up the inside a bit to have the thickness to form with. when I am done the sail windows will be held in by tabs at the bottom and back that fir into grooves like I did the ones on my chop but, with this one I am adding more tabs as well so I only need to use very little 3m tape to hold them in. That way, If the lexan ever gets dull or scratched John can pop them out easy and trace them onto a new piece and replace them within a few hours.


I started to fit the gas door guts tonight too and as I suspected they will need to be deepened No biggie just a bit of cutting and filling in the gap.
Tomorrow night I will be buttoning up the inside structure of the rear part of the c pillar and then I will be working on the gas door a bit more and then modifying the top section of the b pillar to accept my style sail windows. After all that the clip will be ready to put back on the car and final glass work done.

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #323, 10-07-2013 09:47 PM
      Good to hear. I had thought that you were doing both the inside & outside, but you didn't mention that you were.

IF you were only doing the outside & IF I hadn't spoken up & asked the question, then I would have felt bad when things failed later on.

It's all good now.

Thanks

Archie


 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


Yup, Plus I am adding additional structure inside the c pillar as well and double layering the inside panel that the outer skin is bonded too. Over all it will have 6 to 8 different layers when done.
Right now with the outer skin glassed from the outside and inside I can stand on it but I am still adding more just to be safe. the thickness at the bonds right now is about triple the thickness of the stock fiberglass that way I can fine tune the shape sanding if I have to later on.
I think I may add 2 more layers of glass again to the inside too just in case I change things a bit.

I have a idea to do one more tweak to the sail area and I will need to beef up the inside a bit to have the thickness to form with. when I am done the sail windows will be held in by tabs at the bottom and back that fir into grooves like I did the ones on my chop but, with this one I am adding more tabs as well so I only need to use very little 3m tape to hold them in. That way, If the lexan ever gets dull or scratched John can pop them out easy and trace them onto a new piece and replace them within a few hours.


I started to fit the gas door guts tonight too and as I suspected they will need to be deepened No biggie just a bit of cutting and filling in the gap.
Tomorrow night I will be buttoning up the inside structure of the rear part of the c pillar and then I will be working on the gas door a bit more and then modifying the top section of the b pillar to accept my style sail windows. After all that the clip will be ready to put back on the car and final glass work done.




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #324, 10-07-2013 10:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Good to hear. I had thought that you were doing both the inside & outside, but you didn't mention that you were.

IF you were only doing the outside & IF I hadn't spoken up & asked the question, then I would have felt bad when things failed later on.

It's all good now.

Thanks

Archie




I was wondering about this also and was going to ask Archie, but he answered my question. I am planning to move my rear pillars inward toward the edge of the decklid for more hip, is the reason for my curiousity.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #325, 10-07-2013 10:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Good to hear. I had thought that you were doing both the inside & outside, but you didn't mention that you were.

IF you were only doing the outside & IF I hadn't spoken up & asked the question, then I would have felt bad when things failed later on.

It's all good now.


Thanks,
Ya I guess I should have said that I was but I figured that would have been obvious to have done it from both sides. I Forget people that have not done this are watching to get tips so I will be more detailed in the future. When I get working I focus more on getting the work done some times and forget to document the steps I take.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #326, 10-07-2013 10:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


I was wondering about this also and was going to ask Archie, but he answered my question. I am planning to move my rear pillars inward toward the edge of the decklid for more hip, is the reason for my curiosity.


I was thinking about your idea when I read your pm and was curious, won't the decklid hit the c pillars? when I was mocking up this one for sh-ts and giggles I laid them up there like your thinking and it looked like the decklid would have a clearance issue. how did Madcurl fix that? did he cut the corner off the decklid and bond it to the sail window trim panel?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #327, 10-07-2013 11:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


I was thinking about your idea when I read your pm and was curious, won't the decklid hit the c pillars? when I was mocking up this one for sh-ts and giggles I laid them up there like your thinking and it looked like the decklid would have a clearance issue. how did Madcurl fix that? did he cut the corner off the decklid and bond it to the sail window trim panel?



An example done by the guys over at Outlaw customs,






** EDIT **

Scratch that idea. Both this and madcurl's car sport the Archie rear Hatch. That is how they got around the decklid clearence issue. Jet's i am glad one of us is paying attention (and it wasn't me).

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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #328, 10-08-2013 06:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


I was thinking about your idea when I read your pm and was curious, won't the decklid hit the c pillars? when I was mocking up this one for sh-ts and giggles I laid them up there like your thinking and it looked like the decklid would have a clearance issue. how did Madcurl fix that? did he cut the corner off the decklid and bond it to the sail window trim panel?


I think I remember reading a post from Curly that stated he was planning to do exactly that. Trim the hood to fit. I'm thinking it's on his latest build....

Bob

Great build, BTW...

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #329, 10-08-2013 08:15 PM
      Wait a minute,...

Don't want to hijack the thread but come to think of it, Bozzie did it and he does not have a hatchback. hmmmm,...

Oh well back to the Rottin Resurrection !!


85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #330, 10-08-2013 08:45 PM
      when one moves the "hips" in, one would need to trim the front part of the decklid.
If you are going to do it,
I would suggest you only trim a little bit at at time, from the frt part that would be hitting,
until you can open the deck lid. ( it's easier to cut a little more than try to add )

I am very glad that Archie asked about glassing the inside part of the rear clip also.
I know that some people said before that it "would be fine".....without glassing the inside.

JnV, nice work keep it up


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #331, 10-08-2013 09:19 PM
      That moment when you flush the toilet and go to turn off the lights only to see all the fiberglass hairs all over your hands.....................

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #332, 10-08-2013 10:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

That moment when you flush the toilet and go to turn off the lights only to see all the fiberglass hairs all over your hands.....................


LMAO


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #333, 10-10-2013 12:19 AM
     

LornesGT MSG #334, 10-10-2013 01:54 AM
      Will you show more top view pics? Doesn't the engine vent get tough to fit as well, plus the deck. I haven't seen anybody cut the deck lid yet.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #335, 10-10-2013 10:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by LornesGT:

Will you show more top view pics? Doesn't the engine vent get tough to fit as well, plus the deck. I haven't seen anybody cut the deck lid yet.


Nothing changes with the decklid and engine vents. Everything in between both C-Pillars stays untouched.


DL10 (dl10@frontier.com) MSG #336, 10-10-2013 11:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:



Is the blue car chopped? I think that makes a difference in the total look comparing the two.... I think the hips will look wider on a chopped car than on a stock car.


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #337, 10-11-2013 08:44 AM
      I was over at Rob's place last night helping slightly with the rottinchop, the rear clip is gorgeous and rock solid. You could stand on it without worry of it cracking. It's glassed and bonded from the outside and inside with many overlapping layers. The next project is figuring out incorporating the gas door into the hips. Looking great!

Marine1981 MSG #338, 10-11-2013 10:52 AM
      One of our club members has a Fiero Factory body kit and uses this for his fuel door. Has a key where it can be locked and you just push a button and it pops open. This is a crop from a picture of his whole car. I will see if I can get him to take an up close picture of it for me.



Marine1981 MSG #339, 10-11-2013 10:57 AM
      Since John is a Pilot I think it would be cool to have an Aircraft Fuel door on this car. He may even be able to find one that will work,,,,

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #340, 10-11-2013 11:29 AM
      The current base I am at has only large aircraft with single point refueling receptacles. The fuel comes through a pressurized fire hose and that attaches to the aircraft. No such luck here at Scott!

Marine1981 MSG #341, 10-11-2013 04:42 PM
      Took me all day but I found it!






http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jag...em27d826b195&vxp=mtr


fierogtlt1 (fierogtlt1@bellsouth.net) MSG #342, 10-11-2013 04:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:


Does the original sail panel windows fit or do you have to go aftermarket "Fiero Fiberglass"?



LornesGT MSG #343, 10-11-2013 05:49 PM
      Can I come see the car when you get it back?

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #344, 10-11-2013 06:43 PM
      Of course! Here are a couple pics of fuel doors I saw:





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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #345, 10-11-2013 08:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Of course! Here are a couple pics of fuel doors I saw:
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John the round one was what I was thinking



JohnWPB MSG #346, 10-12-2013 12:39 AM
      Here is a fuel door from an F-16 Fighter. I do not remember who's car it was, sorry....


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Here it is being molded into a Fiero:


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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #347, 10-12-2013 02:11 AM
      John look at this I think it may work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Che...id%3D100005%26prg%3D 1088%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D310373964724%26


infinitewill MSG #348, 10-12-2013 08:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JohnWPB:

Here is a fuel door from an F-16 Fighter. I do not remember who's car it was, sorry....





I believe that was Whodeanie's old choptop.

Rob, would the standard cable release for the fuel door still work with the Chevy replacement you noted directly above?

Dr. W.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #349, 10-12-2013 01:05 PM
      I like the design. Do we want chrome or more of a brushed aluminum finish? I can't remember what finish the rims are...

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #350, 10-12-2013 11:44 PM
      Well, Today I got working on stuff again between the rain drops and decided to work on the door skin parts for the tops of the hips.
After thinking about how I was going to do this for a week or so I decided to change things up a bit from how we discussed how bonding them would go. Originally we had decided that the lower door skin would sit over the new wider top within the door molding channel. But, After mocking things up I found a problem with doing that and that is the effective lip at the front of the door for the molding channel is too shallow and would look awful with the door trim on.

Solution: put the lower skin on the bottom. Second issue is the new wide body hips for the doors do not have the two mounts for those pain in the ass holder screw thingys so I added them too. After playing with it all day I have it were I like it and things look good. Tomorrow I will finish up getting ready the other door skin and then bond the two halves together and fiberglass the back side for added strength. Here are some pics of whats going on.
Now at this stage it is just rough and that's ok everything gets filled in with bonding agents and fiberglass and then sanded.

Ok here is the back mount screw tab I added


The back side needs to be prepped and sanded also the tabs need to be cut out to fit the door. some fiddling will be needed later on as well.


here is the front tab mount added to new hip.


I had to cut out htis whole area for the door handle to do it the way I wanted it to fit, plus doing it this way makes life simpler when mounting the door handle now I have stock holes to work with.


Here is the hip and you can see how cutting out the door handle area makes sense.


Here you can see the door trim in place and now how it sits down into the hip channel I am glad I decided o do it this way so much easier.


Here on the lower skin you can see I had to do a few modifications to the channel area as well as thinning it a bit so I can achieve the depth I wanted with the trim so it matches the rest of the trim.


Tomorrow I will finish fitting it up a final time and then bonding time!!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #351, 10-13-2013 12:02 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by infinitewill:


I believe that was Whodeanie's old choptop.

Rob, would the standard cable release for the fuel door still work with the Chevy replacement you noted directly above?

Dr. W.


The chevy door does not use a cable, it just has a pop lock on the back side. I was looking at them today at Autozone, and the see ma bit large. The Dodge one is a bit smaller but still huge and the Ford one well they must be compensating for something cause that dang door is big enough to put a foot ball threw. I would like to see one for a jeep wrangler in the same style, I think it will be the right size.


EvilSqueezles (cyawow88@gmail.com) MSG #352, 10-13-2013 01:17 AM
      To move your C pillars in to create the hip effect you simply cut a section off each side of the deck lid and rebond it to the body of the car. That makes the deck lid narrower and allows it to pass the pillar while maintaining the same body gaps. Bozzie covered it pretty decently in his build.

Is one of the extra mods I plan to do while I'm going widebody.

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cyrus88 MSG #353, 10-13-2013 02:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Geoff from Champion Radiator sent me a reply, they are going to send out a replacement orifice tube for the radiator! Cool! now I do not have to make one!!

Oh and the size of the orifice tube on this radiator is 5/16 24 threads not 1/8th npt, I took the remains to work and had the machinist identify it for me since I no longer own a calipers.



Well, I wanted to replace the orifice on my Champion radiator and the threads are BSPT (British Standard) 1/16-28.
I measured it several times with a caliper and the major diameter is exactly 0.3045". I checked the pitch with a pitch gauge and 28TPI fits perfectly whereas 24TPI is not even close. Then I tried mating it up with a 5/16-24 nut and no success. Oh, and the threads are definitely tapered.

Since these radiators are made in China, perhaps Champion doesn't specify what the threads should be, and the manufacturer just uses whatever is available. So you end up with 5/16-24 straight and I end up with 1/16-28 British Taper.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #354, 10-13-2013 10:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by cyrus88:


Well, I wanted to replace the orifice on my Champion radiator and the threads are BSPT (British Standard) 1/16-28.
I measured it several times with a caliper and the major diameter is exactly 0.3045". I checked the pitch with a pitch gauge and 28TPI fits perfectly whereas 24TPI is not even close. Then I tried mating it up with a 5/16-24 nut and no success. Oh, and the threads are definitely tapered.

Since these radiators are made in China, perhaps Champion doesn't specify what the threads should be, and the manufacturer just uses whatever is available. So you end up with 5/16-24 straight and I end up with 1/16-28 British Taper.


That could very well be the case, I was looking at another club members car that has one of these radiators and I noticed around the area of the trani cooler fittings in the tank his had a lot more meat to work with as well.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #355, 10-13-2013 08:05 PM
      OK, with a ton of fiddling and a big hammer I got the left hip on fitted and looking good enough to bond the skin halves.
The door frame will need tweaking with these hips to fit right I have discovered. This may not be the case for those without lambo hinges but in this case I had to bend the screw lip on the front in and on the back of the door that lip has to be bent out at the top.

I am happy with how it turned out, it all looks stock now and is held down with the factory plastic screw thingys like a stock skin. so here are some pics of the drivers door tomorrow I will be final fiting the passenger side then they are ready to bond together. For now they are riveted together and really I could leave it at that as the way I cut the top skin after the door handle and trim is on the cut areas totally are covered up but, I will be bonding the skins together anyway just because.

Top view from the front:



Down the side view you can see how the door hip aligns with the rear hip now


Looks kinda cool from behind!

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solotwo MSG #356, 10-13-2013 10:09 PM
      Wow that looks great

skuzzbomer MSG #357, 10-14-2013 12:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


The chevy door does not use a cable, it just has a pop lock on the back side. I was looking at them today at Autozone, and the see ma bit large. The Dodge one is a bit smaller but still huge and the Ford one well they must be compensating for something cause that dang door is big enough to put a foot ball threw. I would like to see one for a jeep wrangler in the same style, I think it will be the right size.


That style you've gravitated towards looks like the stock fuel door on my motorcycle. Most modern sportbikes use a similar cap, and they aren't the size of your head. Maybe you can find one without a key and have the lock cylinder redone to match the ignition key for the car?

Edit: the keys are dimensionally similar as well, only the Fiero keys aren't cut on both sides

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Macs86GT MSG #358, 10-14-2013 06:26 PM
      Do the hips cause the lower panels to angle out a bit ie slight wide body, and do you need to remove the whole rear clip to put these on just curious the rotten chop is looking great and its a nice subtle look still fiero but yet not quite stock.

solotwo MSG #359, 10-19-2013 03:08 PM
      did you get the parts car?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #360, 10-19-2013 07:38 PM
      So, last night a little 8 wheel package was dropped off in my driveway for the build!! FInally we have the missing parts!!!!!!! so today I started doing a little work getting the stuff off I need. Also I started figuring out a few other nagging issues we are running into.

8 Wheels get it lol ok so maybe not funny but helpful!!

Here are what the seats look like John, the middle is suede the bolsters shiny leather and then the sides cloth. the drivers side has a small split in the bolster can be seen in next pic.


Otherthan that the dash is awesome and so is the rest of the onside guts. with a little cleaning it will look nice. If you trade steve those seats for his I think it would look even better still since they have speakers in them for the radio.


solotwo MSG #361, 10-19-2013 07:57 PM
      I could use some splash guards and the guy you got the car from is looking for some also. A package deal to Grand Rapids, Michigan?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #362, 10-19-2013 09:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by solotwo:

I could use some splash guards and the guy you got the car from is looking for some also. A package deal to Grand Rapids, Michigan?


Witch ones? I may have a few sets here we do not need. I am trying to not send anyone stuff till I am done for the year tho, Everything I have been shipping has been out of my pocket and well can only do a little at a time. Next thing I need to send out is those brake brackets.


nutherproject68 MSG #363, 10-19-2013 11:50 PM
      I'm not too interested in the splash guards. My GT isn't worth it anymore. I'm just doing the bare minimum to make it last a few more years. I'm glad the car finally got to you. I hope you can use a lot off of it and sell the rest to recover the cost. It's nice that the car came to me and passed on to you guys instead of going to the scrap heap like the guy was planning.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #364, 10-19-2013 11:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by nutherproject68:

I'm not too interested in the splash guards. My GT isn't worth it anymore. I'm just doing the bare minimum to make it last a few more years. I'm glad the car finally got to you. I hope you can use a lot off of it and sell the rest to recover the cost. It's nice that the car came to me and passed on to you guys instead of going to the scrap heap like the guy was planning.


When I get over that way some day I will buy ya a beer!


nutherproject68 MSG #365, 10-19-2013 11:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


When I get over that way some day I will buy ya a beer!


Sounds good to me! I'd love to meet all you guys in person.


Firefox MSG #366, 10-20-2013 10:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:





Hey.....that's a really nice trailer!




jetsnvettes2000 MSG #367, 10-20-2013 10:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Firefox:


Hey.....that's a really nice trailer!



Looks like Archie gets a free plug on the pic too lol!!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #368, 10-22-2013 10:11 AM
      Rob,

The antennea hidden under the RF fender seems the most cost effective and will keep the clean lines of all that beautiful bodywork you are doing unblemished.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-2-071929.html

Think we should head that way?


solotwo MSG #369, 10-22-2013 12:23 PM
      When I bought my car PO had done the same. Really bad reception. Local stations were weak only 10 miles away. I have since remounted it where it originally was and what a difference.

Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #370, 10-22-2013 01:38 PM
      I have mine under the fender and the reception is also bad.

Don



johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #371, 10-22-2013 04:36 PM
      Okay...bad reception on the "in fender" option. How about this shark fin antenea? Seems incredibly reasonable on the price.

http://www.amazon.com/Black...Aerial/dp/B00CAMCDL0

There are also amplified antennea:

http://www.amazon.com/Metra.../ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_1

And this one is a little different shape:

http://www.amazon.com/Kenso...6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_4

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #372, 10-22-2013 08:19 PM
      I like the last one in white!

I did a bit of work tonight on the parts car, I almost have the dash out and a bunch of other stuff. we will need to get some good cleaning chemicals for the door panels and carpet so suggestions??? other than being dirty they seems to be in good shape.

Anyone consider the old antennas in the windshield?


skuzzbomer MSG #373, 10-22-2013 08:20 PM
      Didn't I see where somebody ran dual stock antennas buried under the fenders a couple years back?

IwannaIRM (swags33@cableone.net) MSG #374, 10-23-2013 06:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skuzzbomer:

Didn't I see where somebody ran dual stock antennas buried under the fenders a couple years back?


I believe that is Skitime's old car that has the dual antennas under the fenders.

As far as reception, I have no reception problems with my antenna under the fender. I left the base, bent the antenna and then secured it to the frame. Haven't had clarity or static issues since the modification. Maybe my TA vents help with radio waves...lol


Carcenomy MSG #375, 10-23-2013 07:02 AM
      Electric antenna?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #376, 10-23-2013 07:36 AM
      How about above the head liner were the sun roof would have been?

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #377, 10-23-2013 07:49 AM
      Jamie down in Florida had one attached to the roof but on the small rear clip area. His was a hard top but it would be right behind where a sunroof handle would be.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #378, 10-23-2013 10:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Jamie down in Florida had one attached to the roof but on the small rear clip area. His was a hard top but it would be right behind where a sunroof handle would be.


Got pics? I am not envisioning this? I think, and I don't do it often I can probably hide it in one of the hips possible in the c pillar if we get a extension for the antenna wire. plus doing it that way allows the rear clip to be unplugged from the extender and be more serviceable if the rear clip would ever have to come back off for any reason.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #379, 10-24-2013 08:00 AM
      I don't have any pictures but the sharkfin antennae sits right behind the sunroof on the roof of the car. It attaches not to the front roof piece but to the rear clip top roof piece right behind the sunroof.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #380, 10-25-2013 12:57 AM
      Just cut off the triangle base and shove the antenna up the A-pillar on the passenger side. I have done this with both my GT and my Coupe with no issues.

Rickady88GT (rjkmfam@sbcglobal.net) MSG #381, 10-25-2013 01:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skuzzbomer:

Didn't I see where somebody ran dual stock antennas buried under the fenders a couple years back?

I have two under body antennas. With one, the reception seemed to be directional. I would get better reception in one direction but would get worse as I turned, SO I put two antennas in. One under each fender. Before I got a splitter for them I did the LS4 swap and now use the 06 Monte Carlo radio. I do not use the antennas any more so I don't know if the two are better than one?



solotwo MSG #382, 10-25-2013 02:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


Witch ones? I may have a few sets here we do not need. I am trying to not send anyone stuff till I am done for the year tho, Everything I have been shipping has been out of my pocket and well can only do a little at a time. Next thing I need to send out is those brake brackets.


Ok thanks. I need to get them installed before snow flies. So I'll keep looking. Yes I drive my Fiero in the winter. Did the first one for 12 years until a BMW made a bad left hand turn in busy traffic into my lane. Poor new BMW had Red paint all over the front bumper. BMW was silver and the red looked like lip stick all over the front. LOL!


Marine1981 MSG #383, 10-31-2013 09:08 AM
      I have the stock antennae shoved into the A pillar on my wife's 84. Works okay in town but out in the sticks and in my parking garage the signal gets a lot weaker.

Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #384, 11-01-2013 05:15 AM
      If you're putting the antenna anywhere near the metal frame, slide a piece of plastic or rubber tubing over it to insulate it from the metal. This includes the tip. The metal bracket at the bottom still needs to be connected to the frame.

solotwo MSG #385, 11-01-2013 07:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Raydar:

If you're putting the antenna anywhere near the metal frame, slide a piece of plastic or rubber tubing over it to insulate it from the metal. This includes the tip. The metal bracket at the bottom still needs to be connected to the frame.

I bet that is why it didnt work in my car. P.O. didnt do that.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #386, 11-01-2013 07:55 AM
      Rob and I discussed it. We are going to go with a boosted sharkfin radio antennae. Should work better with the lines he is planning for the car.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #387, 11-01-2013 07:00 PM
      Hey we may need a canoe sent up here!!! been raining for like 3 days straight!!!!! The parts car is almost apart then its time to pack stuff up for the winter Wisconsin sucks for fiberglassing!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #388, 11-02-2013 04:12 PM
      I'm calling the coast guard!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #389, 11-02-2013 08:08 PM
      Ugh my fiero really let me down today, I was almost stranded in Fond Du Lac!! not good!!!! It did not want to start and seemed to be out of power. I got it to fire eventually but right away something was wrong, it had no power and when I stepped on gas it just bogged down. What a nerve wracking drive its like 40 miles and as the drive went on it got worse and worse. I limped it to storage and parked it Damn thing I give up on it for the year. on a brighter note the parts car is stripped of anything useful and now has a date with the scrap yard. I will have to probably cut it up since we have no title tho so everyone get over here with a saws all and lots of beer! oh and a camera for later in the day when the beer kicks in!!

nutherproject68 MSG #390, 11-02-2013 08:12 PM
      Do you have pics of the parts car? I'd like to know how bad the body really was.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #391, 11-02-2013 08:47 PM
      I can take pics tomorrow otherwise I sent one to John maybe if he is on tonight he can post it I cant from my phone

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #392, 11-03-2013 08:11 AM
      Here is the frame pic:



solotwo MSG #393, 11-03-2013 09:44 AM
      Doesn't look bad from this angle, but it was a Michigan car and I think nutherproject68 aid it sat for awhile. How is the rear frames? Looks like it might STILL have some good parts on it, like a rack, front crossmember etc.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #394, 11-03-2013 11:26 AM
      typical up north Fiero, the rear is rotted bad don't let it fool ya any shape in the frame rails is paint lol if I wink at it the thing will turn to dust! The cradle is shot and caving in on itself and the rack is not worth saving, it is corroded badly and falling apart.

Tweeter MSG #395, 11-10-2013 03:05 PM
      Something to watch.. Glad to see your project is moving again.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #396, 11-10-2013 09:08 PM
      Was out goofing off with the build a bit today. Basically sealing it all up and getting it ready for the long sleep. Moved it over and got it all cozy next to the Corvette and got a tarp on it. I am going to put more covering on it when i get some bungee cords. I think I am going to use my 30 by 20 tarp and roll it onto it and then give it the ol burrito wrap for the winter. Over the winter months we will be shifting work to interior stuff and the engine.

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #397, 11-11-2013 12:06 PM
      uummmm....yes....I'll order the rottin burrito. Is it fresh?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #398, 11-19-2013 11:18 PM
      Bump!!!!!! Damn it's cold up here!!!! John light that afterburner and warm up this party!!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #399, 11-20-2013 09:15 AM
      We had a 20 degree night...not too much better down here!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #400, 12-03-2013 08:41 PM
      Bump and update, In my build savings account for the car is $50 bucks Steve has rest for engine portion I am sure he will post budget update as well so everyone sees were the money goes for this build. I will be using most of it soon here on the headliner fabric and glue.

Marine1981 MSG #401, 03-16-2014 10:18 PM
      Bump!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #402, 03-16-2014 10:47 PM
      Soon work will resume! I can almost see the car again it has been under 3 feet of snow most of the winter!!! I think in a few more weeks it will be warm enough to finally get to work! I hope anyway, this winter has been the coldest winter I can remember since I was in high school! I opened it up today and no critters got in over the winter so all is good now we just need heat so I can resume fiber-glassing! I am super close to finalizing the body work then it is time to focus on the engine and other stuff.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #403, 03-17-2014 08:46 AM
      Yep...old man winter has been a tough ol' cookie this year. Some of the roads around here have broken up pretty badly. Looking forward to seeing the beasty get under way again!

Marine1981 MSG #404, 03-17-2014 09:41 AM
      Winter has been killer here too! It's 43 Degrees here in March. Stupid Groundhog....

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #405, 03-17-2014 08:20 PM
      Stop it!!!!!!! every time we open this thread it reverts back to winter for 2 more weeks!!!!!!!! we are getting a bunch of snow tonight or tomorrow I guess yuck!!!!! I hate snow!!!!!! 10 years I am out of here and joining you fellas down south!!

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #406, 03-17-2014 09:13 PM
      Let's buy a small house with a ten car garage!!!!!

86soon3.4 MSG #407, 03-17-2014 09:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Let's buy a small house with a ten car garage!!!!!


I'm in!!


Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #408, 03-17-2014 10:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Let's buy a small house with a ten car garage!!!!!


But don't you already have a 10 car garage? Steve I get the top bunk!!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #409, 03-18-2014 11:18 AM
      I wish!

notwohorns (notwohorns@gmail.com) MSG #410, 03-18-2014 07:18 PM
      I have yet to see another fiero on the road except at a show

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #411, 03-18-2014 08:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by notwohorns:

I have yet to see another fiero on the road except at a show


Had mine on the road for about 3 minutes sat, I had to put a new battery in it and well it's still all jacked up grrrrr After Johns car is done and Chris's mine is finally going under the knife for its final transformation. Till then it is going to sit I think I don't have the cash right now to fix it anyway. Hey John fly up for the weekend!!! I got me a little bang bang present for myself for my b day!! Aaron is bringing up some of his toys from Kentucky should be fun!!! Oh ya and tonight we are going to get 3+ inches of snow grrrrrrrr!!!!! I hate snow!!!!!!


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #412, 03-19-2014 02:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Stop it!!!!!!! every time we open this thread it reverts back to winter for 2 more weeks!!!!!!!! we are getting a bunch of snow tonight or tomorrow I guess yuck!!!!! I hate snow!!!!!! 10 years I am out of here and joining you fellas down south!!



Hey Rob I just got back from Tennesee, I checked out our burned out cabin and the property is all cleared ready to rebuild. It's one HOT property and it's for sale do you want to buy it? LOL!! I'm going down to Florida next week to check out our other property and for a little vacation in the heat. I'll be down there permanently before you! Seriosly though let me know when enough snow melts so I can show up to help with the rottenchop to git er done. Also don't shoot your eye out with your new toy.


BlackThunderGT MSG #413, 04-12-2014 03:45 AM
      Bump!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #414, 04-12-2014 10:51 PM
      Well, it is getting close to build time again! We need it to warm up just a bit more and stop snowing! Monday it will again ugh.... Right now Steve started working on the 3800 mounts and I have moved the turbine wheels into the house so i can work on polishing off all the rust dean got on them off. Tires will be needed for them when that is finished up. i have a set of so so ones to temp put on for now tho.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #415, 04-14-2014 07:31 PM
      Got a update from Steve! the trani has been fitted to the cradle and it fits! the front mount was being made today so groovy! Despite the 4 inches of snow and flooding we just got nothing will slow this train down!!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #416, 04-14-2014 10:34 PM
      Here we go!!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #417, 04-14-2014 10:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Here we go!!!


It may take us old farts a while but this will be done!


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #418, 04-15-2014 06:41 PM
      Hey Rob I should have some weekends to help out available after Easter, I'll give you a call next week

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #419, 04-15-2014 07:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by av8fiero:

Hey Rob I should have some weekends to help out available after Easter, I'll give you a call next week


Sweet, I may be down for the count for a week or so here coming up. Found out today I need to have surgery asap on my sinuses due to some issues i have been having. No worries not dying yet but falling apart.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #420, 04-15-2014 11:01 PM
      So John can you guess what this is? Steve cooked it up for ya

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #421, 04-16-2014 09:16 AM
      A toaster? Just kidding! I can't see pics on this computer. I threw it in Google and it looks like a bracket. Maybe an engine or trans mount or a lower alternator mount?

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #422, 04-17-2014 01:10 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

A toaster? Just kidding! I can't see pics on this computer. I threw it in Google and it looks like a bracket. Maybe an engine or trans mount or a lower alternator mount?



You are getting warm!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #423, 04-18-2014 09:53 AM
      Is it the AC mount?

no2pencil (jason@akroncdnr.com) MSG #424, 04-18-2014 10:41 AM
      Custom wheel chuck?

86soon3.4 MSG #425, 04-18-2014 10:46 AM
      Come on guys.....

It's a front lower engine bracket.


Steve


tshark MSG #426, 04-19-2014 09:32 AM
      What is it made out of? Looks like steel, but the one side where is comes down from the top goes from black to silver. It looks like someone worked it over with a hammer..or are those stretch marks?

Just curious. I still want to see a Fiero with the aluminum frame GM was supposedly working on.


86soon3.4 MSG #427, 04-19-2014 10:01 AM
      Made out of steel. Bent with heat and a vice. No hammer.

Steve


 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

What is it made out of? Looks like steel, but the one side where is comes down from the top goes from black to silver. It looks like someone worked it over with a hammer..or are those stretch marks?

Just curious. I still want to see a Fiero with the aluminum frame GM was supposedly working on.




av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #428, 05-10-2014 12:12 PM
      Rob and Steve, Let's set some time to get this done!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #429, 05-11-2014 11:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by av8fiero:

Rob and Steve, Let's set some time to get this done!


I have been working on it all week! were are you!!!! lol today i am working on gutting the harness from the interior, it is a lost cause and we have the one from the 86 doner car anyway so in it goes.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #430, 05-22-2014 10:50 PM
      Psssst it's that time of year again................. So back on the Johns car! lot of work has been going on behind the scenes! Steve has the engine all mocked up on the cradle and now waiting for a few things before he tears it all apart and does his magic to the engine. I have been figuring out all the nagging details of making the hips work with doors that go up lambo style.

So, here is a pic of the nose on the car, I had to modify the turn signal buckets a bit to get the lights to attach like factory units. Now they will be serviceable just like the Sebrings they cam out of .

I figured out the gas door too, I gave up on frenching it and decided to go with a stock look. plus this letsme use the stock latch. One thing I have to do to make it fit perfectly is modify the hip just slightly at the top radius of the trim ring around the gas door. Basically just flare the hip out a tad more and then smooth it in along the top of the hip to make it look natural. You cant look at both sides of the car together anyway so the slight difference will not be seen.


SO, tonight I started on finishing the door skins with the hips. As I got going I was torn as what to do about the mirrors being the hip is wider into the door. Well, I think I figured it out and the stock mirrors look pretty nice with the hips so I will be installing them. Sometimes stock stuff looks best!


Tomorrow night I will prob start finishing up the drivers door skin and getting the handle and stuff on it and fitted then it will go on car for final mock up too before I put the glasss in the doors and the felts and wipes.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #431, 05-24-2014 04:36 PM
      Ok so time to make the gas door fit these hips. First step remove the gel coat around the area I need.

Then I fiber glassed around the top blending it into the hip

After that I needed to fine tune it a bit so out came some mud.

It is kinda hard to see in pic but, right round the trim ring is now a raised lip the gas door assembly sits on and it is then tapered into the hip. Problem with gas door done onto the next issue.....


Remember when I cut out the front of the hip to gain access for gluing? Well that is the next project. I have the drivers side roughed in and now I need to build it out a bit and the door skip hip need to be filled out a bit to close the gap. Jimmy take note the door hip could use about a 1/4 inch added to it but no problem to fix up I just need to get to it and that's next on the table.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #432, 05-25-2014 01:55 PM
      Day two of my bust ass instead of relax holiday Today I started extending the door hips to close the door gap. I have it close but have some fine tuning to do. As i do it I am trying to not use mud as this area I suspect will take a ton of punishment getting in and out of the car so it is a slow go getting it just right.

I am leaving it a bit fatter at the top of the door to help with strength.


Here is how far I have extended it so far I may go one more layer of fiberglass yet.


I have the right door almost were I want tit to be, I am leaving a bit of a bigger gap than stock tho as it has lambo doors and they tend to want to pop up right away I do not want to see it bang into anything


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #433, 05-25-2014 02:02 PM
      John, I have exhausted the 50 bucks i had left in the pot on fiberglass and hardener and rivets. I may need some moola for supplies in the near future unless anyone wants to donate a few things:

Door molding clips gt

One quart can of Wellwood contact cement

Headliner fabric grey

and Fill primer as I am almost done with fabrication and ready to prime after a final sanding and fitting and fine tuning all the body work.

far as I am concerned the car is almost ready to go up north for the engine and then when it comes back I will get with Mark about paint.


JohnWPB MSG #434, 05-25-2014 02:09 PM
      Wow, the car is coming along nicely! That was a nice fix for the gas cap. I was wondering about altering the ring, but then the door would not be flat, so that would not have worked.

 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:
So, here is a pic of the nose on the car, I had to modify the turn signal buckets a bit to get the lights to attach like factory units. Now they will be serviceable just like the Sebrings they cam out of .



I have the same bumper from JimmyS, as well as many other people on the forum. Can you post some photo's of exactly what you did for the marker lights? I had a really rough time with mine, and had to grind some of the fiberglass on the bumper away, as well as use a Dremel on the lights them selves in spots to get them to fit. Mine are kinda hokey the way they are in there right now, and would like to have them more stable, and as you mentioned, serviceable for changing bulbs without reworking the things every time.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #435, 05-25-2014 04:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JohnWPB:

Wow, the car is coming along nicely! That was a nice fix for the gas cap. I was wondering about altering the ring, but then the door would not be flat, so that would not have worked.


I have the same bumper from JimmyS, as well as many other people on the forum. Can you post some photo's of exactly what you did for the marker lights? I had a really rough time with mine, and had to grind some of the fiberglass on the bumper away, as well as use a Dremel on the lights them selves in spots to get them to fit. Mine are kinda hokey the way they are in there right now, and would like to have them more stable, and as you mentioned, serviceable for changing bulbs without reworking the things every time.


I took a few pics but the hole for the main screw is not drilled yet for the nut plate but you get the idea.

This side I extended the back mount area so the original clip on the Chrysler light has something to grab onto and also to thicken the light mount hole so I could grind inside it to fit the lights better without burning threw I also ground off some of the back of the light case itself to help with fitting.


Here you can see how the factory clip now catches the bumper and holds it firmly in place. What I did to do this was take a few plastic grocery bags and put the lights in them, then I just taped the light into place and fiberglassed around the light to the point it would grab the clip and have enough meat next to it to be strong.


In this pic same deal the pocket side was extended more into the light case so I had enough meat to put a nut clip there for the factory screw to engage. when I grabbed the lights from the bone yard I grabbed the original clip as well so I know it will work. I still have to drill the hole and cut a slot to put the clip in place with but it will be were the tip of the screw driver is. I spent a bunch of time making sure the lights were flush with the front of the bumper I think I got it looking pretty decent so far but paint will tell when it adds a bit of thickness to it. SO, I may have to do a bit more fitting after painting but the mount either way is basically like the factory one due to me using the light itself to mold it.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #436, 06-03-2014 10:24 PM
      Well tonight no pics but I managed to get some work done. I cleaned the carpets to start with then I started putting the doors together the rest of the way. New dew wipes are in on right side, and stuff is sorted out for the glass chop top windows right side and the window is in but needs fine tuning yet. It is nice seeing a window in makes it look more done finally but wow is it different from the plastic windows. Everything is needing to be fiddled with. John Steve needs you to contact him asap!!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #437, 06-04-2014 09:54 AM
      Roger. I think I have Steve's details but could you PM them to me just in case?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #438, 06-04-2014 10:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Roger. I think I have Steve's details but could you PM them to me just in case?


Copy that, Sent.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #439, 06-04-2014 10:30 PM
      Tonight we hit a small milestone! the windows are in and go up and down and for the most part are adjusted!!! It took a bit of fiddling due to the Lambo doors but i think they will work good!




av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #440, 06-04-2014 11:30 PM
      hey Rob I should be up there around 9 am Sunday, let's get some stuff done

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #441, 06-04-2014 11:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by av8fiero:

hey Rob I should be up there around 9 am Sunday, let's get some stuff done


Cool, I prob should toss charger on your car it has been a while since it ran


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #442, 06-05-2014 10:39 PM
      And for tonight's fun! I decided this things needed a bit of junk in its trunk so, I gave it a trunk!!
Tomorrow after the body panel glue dries I will paint it and done for this part!! the aluminum sheet is riveted besides glued in. Carpet will go in after paint.


John, we need a battery tray this car did not have one in it.
I need a tube of 3m 8115 glue

I need some fill primer soon I am just about ready to do the final sanding and body work I am going to pull it all apart this weekend and fine tune all the modifications and put it together for the last time before it gets fill primed. After that I am in limbo till Steve is ready to toss the engine in but we need a wire harness and gaskets stat!!

The carpets came pretty clean I am happy with them now that they are dry. They are now waiting to be installed I will be working on cleaning more of the interior parts as it sits waiting for engine. I will prob install dash and other interior bits while I wait that can be covered up easy.

Seat covers? We need some eventually the ones in it are kinda not nice but usable for now. I also need the headliner stuff noted above. Or, I prob can just sand down the fiberglass fabric board and do something fun.
Oh one more thing, we need to figure out how to hold up decklid, the mounts are gone for the springs so some sort of gas shock i think will be needed

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86soon3.4 MSG #443, 06-08-2014 09:13 PM
      bump

pm sent to johnyrottin

steve

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #444, 06-08-2014 11:50 PM
      CHris (Av8fiero) and I got a bunch done today, my neck is super burnt ouch!!!! so here is a few pics of the visible stuff. the not visible stuff was removing the rear clip and getting the wiring for the trunk sorted out since it was laying out from were it had to be run. We also fixed some bad fiberglass spots before remounting the rear clip and fixing the d plates in the trunk since one was cracked. We added sealer to them as well so the trunk stays nice and dry.

After all that we started to fit the back bumper


We mounted the plates under the rear clip that the turn signal lights screw in also and fitted up the bumper having to modify it slightly to fit right.


After that we moved onto the dash and installed that after giving it a general cleaning. I think it looks ok but could use a re dye job at some point. For now its ok to go as I want to leave some Father Son projects for you guys.



Then we moved onto the front bumper and started final fitting and modifications a bit since I did not like how it was mounting. I will need to do some glass work as a few spots seem a bit fiddly



Caught a pic of the Illusive Chris!


Sleeping will kinda suck I think lol I am toasted burnt!!! All for a good cause tho!!

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av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #445, 06-10-2014 11:07 PM
      Hey Rob it was good to have some time to work on cars this past week end. I'll be back in a week end or two to crank some more stuff out on this project. I hope I helped more than I hinderd the progress of this build. Getting closer but still a ways to go. Rob I don't know why you don't have you own fab shop. YOU DA MAN! The Rottinchop is a little further along and it will be done. Rob and Steve and the very minor help I'll provide will see to that. John you'll have a great car when it's done. Lets get her done!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #446, 06-10-2014 11:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by av8fiero:

Hey Rob it was good to have some time to work on cars this past week end. I'll be back in a week end or two to crank some more stuff out on this project. I hope I helped more than I hinderd the progress of this build. Getting closer but still a ways to go. Rob I don't know why you don't have you own fab shop. YOU DA MAN! The Rottinchop is a little further along and it will be done. Rob and Steve and the very minor help I'll provide will see to that. John you'll have a great car when it's done. Lets get her done!


Ya I would love to do this stuff full time but the initial investment just seems to keep holding me back. Anyone got a extra 100g laying around? lol


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #447, 06-10-2014 11:20 PM
      John we need a gold brick and a few dimes stat!! Steve wants his turn posting progress pics!! give Steve a call asap. I am hesitant to call your office number as I am am not entirely sure you are on base or up flying again. If ya see this shoot me or Steve a text.

av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #448, 06-15-2014 10:47 AM
      Hey Rob, and any other dads out there, HAPPY FATHERS DAY! I will be up there this Saturday if that will work for you. Let me know

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #449, 06-16-2014 09:40 PM
      We may have a serious logistics problem guys, John may be off grid for a bit but, by chance John if you get the chance to sneak online and see this Facebook works were you will be. We figured this out with Aaron while it was his turn there. I will keep pushing forward as much as possible but donations are more important now so more than ever.

Big need if anyone has some to spare a gt trunk lock and guts setup including the extension part on decklid and rod. We also need door lock set to match.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #450, 06-22-2014 12:27 AM
      So hey got some work done today!! The interior is partially in and well Chris and I decided stock was boring so a few tweaks are being made to make it look nicer. I gave John a small preview but the whole install is top secret till done!! I need to find a nice automatic shift plate. I will trade the manual ones I have for it including a dot matrix one. does not matter what year as the trim plates and face plates are getting hydro dipped.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #451, 07-06-2014 08:47 PM
      Well the car is almost ready for the big move up north for the engine work! Phonedawgz is getting ready to spool up on the wire harness and 86soon3.4 has the engine apart already for freshening up!

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JohnWPB MSG #452, 07-06-2014 10:18 PM
      Wow, it is really coming together nicely! I cant wait to see what the little secret is for the interior. Whatever it is, I bet it will look amazing with your attention to detail!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #453, 07-12-2014 05:09 PM
      Uh oh what is this !!!! Johns car is being stolen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Ha got pics of Steve finally!!!




It's on it's way up north for the engine!!! Weird not having it here!!! Steve do not show the interior its not ready to be shown yet!!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #454, 07-13-2014 12:00 PM
      I am back home for a few days. Beautiful! Even Black Lab dogs want to take the RC for a ride!!! It looks beautiful guys...really beautiful. I am still amazed you guys have taken this on and count my blessing every day. This life is short and surrounding myself with good and positive people makes all the difference in the world.

davylong86 MSG #455, 07-13-2014 03:45 PM
      This is turning in to a bad story gone good.Glad to see those WI boys doing a great job to bring this car back to what it should have been.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #456, 07-13-2014 05:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

I am back home for a few days. Beautiful! Even Black Lab dogs want to take the RC for a ride!!! It looks beautiful guys...really beautiful. I am still amazed you guys have taken this on and count my blessing every day. This life is short and surrounding myself with good and positive people makes all the difference in the world.


OH the doggy is Bear!! he is my brothers dog a akita mixed with a black lab. The dog walks you not the other way around lol

Have fun at home make the misses happy and keep up the good work on your end!!!!


86soon3.4 MSG #457, 07-15-2014 10:11 PM
      engine **** ....here you go John.







Steve


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #458, 07-16-2014 12:00 AM
      That is looking sexy!!!


tshark MSG #459, 07-16-2014 01:36 AM
      Nice! What is the upper engine coated with?

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #460, 07-16-2014 11:31 AM
      Love!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #461, 07-17-2014 12:09 AM
      Very nice !

Congrats Johnny,..couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. Jets i can't say enough about what you have done,..completely selfless.

Can't wait to see this baby with a set of nice wheels under her.

btw,..probably too late, but i think a set of these rockers would have really added to the look you have achieved.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #462, 07-17-2014 09:57 AM
      Thanks E. I agree with the rockers. Where are they from?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #463, 07-17-2014 10:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Thanks E. I agree with the rockers. Where are they from?


Dean got them from a kitcar guy on mad mechanics named bartman then modified them to fit his silver car, and yellowstone's car. Bartman sells the. A. D. 355 kit parts.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #464, 07-17-2014 09:38 PM
      We can do them if you want, I would try with the plastic sides but they would fail probably fast with getting in and out so I think they should be done in fiberglass for sure.

86soon3.4 MSG #465, 07-19-2014 09:11 PM
      Just picked up the engine harness from Timm.


Looks like I need to get my butt going!


Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #466, 07-19-2014 09:31 PM
      Pssssst Dean this is how stuff gets done..............

BlackThunderGT MSG #467, 07-27-2014 04:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

Pssssst Dean this is how stuff gets done..............





jetsnvettes2000 MSG #468, 07-28-2014 08:50 PM
      So I have a sneak peak to share on the other chop top we are doing here while we wait for the Rottin Chop to get back from the heart doctor.... Check out Av8fieros thread on the hybnrid chop!

86soon3.4 MSG #469, 08-05-2014 08:13 PM
      engine updates....


engine strut/dog bone.


start of the exhaust


engine







it's getting closer to getting in the car.

Steve


av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #470, 08-05-2014 09:56 PM
      Looks good Steve, it'll look great in the the car. YOU DA MAN!!! GO BEARS!! LOL

AutoMarshal MSG #471, 08-05-2014 11:17 PM
      Steve, I like that dog bone a lot! With a cut trunk, you might be able to tuck the muffler up higher for clearance. It might be better to build the exhaust when the cradle is installed? What muffler are you running and what kind of sound are you after? Any fuel rail plans? Marshal

86soon3.4 MSG #472, 08-05-2014 11:46 PM
      I am not going to do anymore exhaust work till I get the tips and the engine is in.

Here are the tips.



and they will fit in the middle of this.



the muffler is a Flotech afterburner. I hope it has a nice raspy tone to it.

I am using the stock fuel rail with stainless braided fuel lines from a Lumina van.

Steve



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #473, 08-05-2014 11:52 PM
      THIS GUY IS FROM APPLETON!!

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86soon3.4 MSG #474, 08-07-2014 10:35 PM
      The car is in the garage!!!






Steve


86soon3.4 MSG #475, 08-08-2014 09:50 PM
      The tips showed up today!!





I think this will look awesome!!

Steve


86soon3.4 MSG #476, 08-09-2014 07:00 PM
      Took some time off after installing this.







Rob and I went for a cruise on some back roads.









Steve



86soon3.4 MSG #477, 08-11-2014 10:28 PM
      Cut the pipes, and expanded the ends. Getting closer to welding in place.





steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #478, 08-12-2014 12:32 AM
      That gap is just about right, should have plenty of clearance to keep the hear off the fiberglass but I think I will still make some sort of heat shield there just in case

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #479, 08-12-2014 12:34 AM
      Hmmm kinda looks like a robot face with that cloth there Benders brother?





LornesGT MSG #480, 08-12-2014 06:34 PM
      What is the plan for the original tail pipe postion?

86soon3.4 MSG #481, 08-12-2014 08:36 PM
      exhaust is now welded. (this is the tack welded picture)







Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #482, 08-12-2014 09:21 PM
      Hmmmmm looks cool I wonder what it will sound like hmmmm..................Oh I think I got it!! I bet it sounds like this :

or this

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #483, 08-12-2014 10:07 PM
      It might even sound like this...the whistle goes wooh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #484, 08-12-2014 11:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

It might even sound like this...the whistle goes wooh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0


I do not know what was more stupid, the people in the vid or the muffler! wow is all I can say.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #485, 08-23-2014 02:48 PM
      Interior is coming along, just finished the side panels and the headliner. Looks great but.... no peaking!! I have to do the trim yet above the windows and below the doors. I also have to figure out something with the glove box as it is not nice. I also need to figure out the shift plate as I need one for a automatic. Color and year does not mater as I am having something done to them. I also may need the surround bit that goes under the shift plate. This one is separating bad not sure if I can fix it yet. Color does not matter as it is getting changed too.

86soon3.4 MSG #486, 08-24-2014 06:49 PM
      Did some more work today. Rob came up and welded in the trunk floor supports/braces.

I removed the cradle w/engine and transmission.
Installed the wire harness, ran the expansion tank lines, fuel lines and the heat barrier.









enjoy

Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #487, 09-02-2014 10:22 PM
      Bump, cause sh-t eating grins are abound tonight!! Guess what makes its own noise!! Vid on Facebook under the club page.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #488, 09-06-2014 04:44 PM
      And for the moment you all have been waiting for........................................


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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #489, 09-07-2014 08:29 AM
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VkrUG3OrPc


seajai MSG #490, 09-07-2014 09:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:




Is that the Fiero Fiberglass F360 rear bumper?


katatak MSG #491, 09-07-2014 09:26 AM
      Nice work guys!

JohnWPB MSG #492, 09-07-2014 10:51 AM
      It Lives! ! ! ! Wow, great work! Even without the tune, it sounds FANTASTIC!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #493, 09-07-2014 11:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by seajai:


Is that the Fiero Fiberglass F360 rear bumper?


yup!


nosrac MSG #494, 09-07-2014 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JohnWPB:

It Lives! ! ! ! Wow, great work! Even without the tune, it sounds FANTASTIC!


It has a tune...A Mail order one but a tune none the less.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #495, 09-07-2014 09:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by nosrac:


It has a tune...A Mail order one but a tune none the less.


LOL a few things changed I guess so it needs a little tweak nothing serious tho. Great work on your end!!!


nosrac MSG #496, 09-08-2014 01:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


LOL a few things changed I guess so it needs a little tweak nothing serious tho. Great work on your end!!!


U can Send it back for any tweaks necessary.


JohnWPB MSG #497, 09-08-2014 02:05 AM
      That Fiero Fiberglass bumper looks amazing! With the location you put the exhaust (GREAT choice by the way) the open areas look a little off where the exhaust would normally go. I was thinking maybe put some of the same grate material as used on the side scoops. This would help make the tires not so visible through the holes, and look similar to the grates you see on Lambo's and such on the rear.

I am NOT trying to nitpick, and know you have a lot of work to do, but offering an idea for down the road is all.

I have been watching this build unfold since Johnny proudly showed me his car, and described everything he had planned for it. At that time it was wedged in a corner and neglected in a shop in Georgia. It is SO nice to see it all start to come to completion! Great work, and so many kudos to you guys for stepping up to help make a very very wrong, into a very very right!


86soon3.4 MSG #498, 09-14-2014 09:15 PM
      Having a little bit of an issue. The oil pressure on the gauge pod in the car reads real low...so low the red light illuminates at idle when hot.
However...I installed a manual oil pressure gauge it reads 50 -60 psi.

Could the gauge on the dash be a problem? Please note there was no interior harness in
the car when we got the car. All the other gauges work as they should.


Steve



JohnWPB MSG #499, 09-15-2014 12:14 AM
      The oil pressure sensor on the 2.8 is prone to problem, as air and water get in a little hole in the sensor and cause the gauge to give false readings...

Normally, the result is opposite, as the 3800 puts out like 80 PSI oil pressure. This usually almost pegs the Fiero gauge. I know nothing about the sensor on the 3800, but does it put out the correct signal to work with a stock Fiero gauge? I thought I had heard people using a Fiero 88 oil sender in the 3800's if I recall....

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86soon3.4 MSG #500, 09-15-2014 10:40 PM
      I am using an 88 Fiero oil pressure sender. When I turn the key to the on position the needle on the gauge goes up to zero. When I start it it goes just over the red.
If I unplug the harness from the sender and turn the key on it pegs the needle to over 80. I install a 47 ohm resistor on the tan wire at the o.p. sender it stays pegged.
I thought it should show about half on the gage on the dash???

I also noticed the cooling fan comes on all the time.

any ideas?

Steve
 
quote
Originally posted by JohnWPB:

The oil pressure sensor on the 2.8 is prone to problem, as air and water get in a little hole in the sensor and cause the gauge to give false readings...

Normally, the result is opposite, as the 3800 puts out like 80 PSI oil pressure. This usually almost pegs the Fiero gauge. I know nothing about the sensor on the 3800, but does it put out the correct signal to work with a stock Fiero gauge? I thought I had heard people using a Fiero 88 oil sender in the 3800's if I recall....





86soon3.4 MSG #501, 09-25-2014 10:17 PM
      The Rottinchop is heading back to Menasha on Saturday for the remaining body work and paint prep.

Steve


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #502, 09-27-2014 07:58 PM
      And the chop is back here! It is time I get those much needed parts!!!! Anyone have the rear deck lid lock gut parts? and a automatic shift plate?

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #503, 09-28-2014 08:18 AM
      I posted up an ad for the lock parts. Did we find anything up at Don Kraus's place?

Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #504, 09-29-2014 09:35 AM
      No one showed up at my place.I have the aux gauges and maybe other stuff you can use.It's all free for you guys.
Don


mrfred8 MSG #505, 09-29-2014 09:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Don Kraus:

No one showed up at my place.I have the aux gauges and maybe other stuff you can use.It's all free for you guys.
Don



Hi Don, good to see you still posting on here. I have put around 600 miles on your LSx, loving it every time I drive it.


Don Kraus (donwkraus@gmail.com) MSG #506, 09-29-2014 02:57 PM
      Haven't picked up any tickets yet have you?That car gets to 100 MPH so fast you don't realize it.I'm glad it went to a good home and you are enjoying it.
I don't think a lot of people on here know you purchased The IMSA LSX 427 from me.You sure have a one of a kind Fiero and Hot Rod.
Don


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #507, 09-29-2014 05:13 PM
      We need some pictures of the Rottinchop so we can have some Photoshop gurus color it up!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #508, 10-05-2014 11:25 PM
      Add 100 bucks to the project piggy bank, I sold the old side scoops that came off the formula body from Archie today! . That should cover some more stuff I need to get to finish the interior! TIme is running out on me for being able to do body work so shifting the work towards detail work on what is done and getting it ready for the 5 month sleep again. I hope to have a few more things done but man we already had Snow flurries Friday night! Old man winter is coming way too soon this year!!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #509, 10-09-2014 09:14 PM
      Picked up the lexan to make the sail windows. $40 bucks left in the pot as result the crap is expensive!! I hope I make them right first time around!! I think i am done with fiberglass for the year as it seems winter has arrived way early!!! so I will continue with making parts we need and fine tuning others.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #510, 02-04-2015 04:25 PM
      Mid winter bump!!!!!! Home sick today so decided to give a update. Johns car is sleeping well under cover waiting for spring so I can get back to finishing up the fiberglass work. I have been doing a few other small things in the mean time for the interior. I scored a set of sun visors the other day but they are a bit dusty I need to figure out how to clean them. They appear that they may have been recovered by someone with some serious sewing skills so they look nicer than stock ones just a tad dirty. No grease tho so I am going to try and clean them. For shits and giggles I tried to start it figuring the battery would be dead from sitting threw the below zero temps we have been having and well it fired right up just tapping the ignition. Kinda jealous, both my Fieros had dead batteries. Comon Spring cross your fingers for it to come early not this end of May crap like last year!!!!

fierofool (cmmsewell@gmail.com) MSG #511, 02-04-2015 06:30 PM
      I still have those two aero rocker panel steel supports you asked about. Never got a reply from you for an address to send them. Do you still need them or did you find some, elsewhere?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #512, 02-04-2015 06:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierofool:

I still have those two aero rocker panel steel supports you asked about. Never got a reply from you for an address to send them. Do you still need them or did you find some, elsewhere?


Yup still need will pm info


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #513, 02-07-2015 10:53 PM
      Hey John! no need to send a shift plate I found a complete one today in the bone yard for 10 bucks!! Now to have it and the other trim parts dipped.

Moving on one piece at a time!



tshark MSG #514, 02-07-2015 11:04 PM
      That's in good condition, it appears.

Steel MSG #515, 02-09-2015 12:16 PM
      Nice work overall looking/sounding nice.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #516, 02-10-2015 12:10 PM
      Had a moment and some internet access so jumped on. Life is pretty tough right now guys. Too many moving pieces and too much sand. Rob that is awesome. As we get closer to spring and paint I need to get you guys some clams. Looks good. I will send you the bits I have when I return or just hand carry them up to you. I may even be able to contact home and have them sent up.

fierofool (cmmsewell@gmail.com) MSG #517, 02-10-2015 02:18 PM
      Hey, Rob, I have those metal door sill rocker supports boxed up, but I see in the video that you already have rockers on the car. Did you already find some or do you still need them?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #518, 02-10-2015 07:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierofool:

Hey, Rob, I have those metal door sill rocker supports boxed up, but I see in the video that you already have rockers on the car. Did you already find some or do you still need them?


Those are temp mounted so I could figure out some things John wants to modify The metal braces are still missing underneath Did we figure out how much to ship them yet?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #519, 02-10-2015 07:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Had a moment and some internet access so jumped on. Life is pretty tough right now guys. Too many moving pieces and too much sand. Rob that is awesome. As we get closer to spring and paint I need to get you guys some clams. Looks good. I will send you the bits I have when I return or just hand carry them up to you. I may even be able to contact home and have them sent up.

I figured you are on the quest, Too bad We did not get to chat before you left. Watts line where you are? I see you sold Dave the choptop!! Awe man I thought for sure it would be the Indy to go. You better keep the Mera or I am going to kick your butt when I see ya!! Put on your bacon flavored cologne and keep it below the deck! see ya in a few months!!


fierofool (cmmsewell@gmail.com) MSG #520, 02-11-2015 11:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


Those are temp mounted so I could figure out some things John wants to modify The metal braces are still missing underneath Did we figure out how much to ship them yet?


I'll try to get them down to the post office today or tomorrow.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #521, 02-17-2015 09:51 PM
      Hey shout out to Fierofool got the package thanks!!! John pay the man!!! Oh wait you can't due to your new address. I will gather up ten bucks and send it to the address on the package! John have fun hunting Here is a little pic I modified I think fits!! Oh not John in the pic just some random bad ass Hero!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #522, 04-13-2015 08:44 PM
      OK guys it is time to get back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So tonight I spent the night getting all the lights to work and blinking. So far so good but now I am having a brain fart big time. I have the Norms tail light panel Euro tail light panel and in the directions he wants me to remove all the bulbs except the inner running and turn signal ones and scotch lock in a third plug. I do not like this as Jesus fasteners are nasty and I would like it to be a nice simple clean install without having extra sockets laying around in there. So, the question How do i remove the Pontiac little lights yet retain the plate light. Then remove all the sockets except the running lights/ turn signal lights. So basically i want to retain the 2057 lights 2 each side and cut out the rest How should I go about it?


VikingRedBaron (vikingredbaron@juno.com) MSG #523, 04-13-2015 08:53 PM
      Side cutters is the tool of choice here

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #524, 04-13-2015 09:57 PM
      Ok I have thought about this and I want the tail light wiring in the fiero to act like the tail light wiring in a c3 Corvette This should be fun to figure out. I basically want the outer bulb to blink be a running light and get brighter when I step on the brake just like a Corvette. the inner light I want as the backup just like a corvette. Now, how to do this?? someone here has to have done this already can anyone save me some thinking?

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #525, 04-14-2015 07:10 PM
      Figured it out, I need to wire it like a boat trailer with a converter. This will give the lights all the functions I want them to have with still retaining the backup lights. I just need to get the harness made up and replace the 2 outboard lenses with solid red ones then everything will be 100 percent legal. BEst part is it wil look and function just like a c3 Corvette

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #526, 04-16-2015 12:41 AM
      Sweet just got a PM saying we will be getting a custom made tail light harness made and donated! One step closer John to having your car finally!! Big thanks to Snapperhead Preformance!!

Edit adding his info here so I can find it easy!

Snapperhead Performance
3148 Plainfield Ave NE
Grand Rapids, Mi 49525
616-209-8217

Buy stuff from this fella for being a awesome member of the team!! Welcome aboard!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #527, 04-16-2015 09:56 PM
      Got some work done tonight, I worked on the door hinge a bit as the lambo hinges rub on the fender inside a bit so I tweaked that a bit then I worked on fixing some cracks in the nose. I think when it shipped they flexed it a bit too much so I dig out the bad spots and redid them a bit so they are stronger. I am starting to fine tune stuff and get ready for primer I want to get it in primer by the end of may if the weather gives me the time I need to finish up the body.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #528, 04-17-2015 09:34 PM
      Well too tired to do sanding tonight and was so nice out I decided to do more interior parts tonight. I still am not showing it till it is done but here is a sneak peak at one part wrapped in leatheret. Hmmmm looks good to me! Pain in the butt to do tho so glad these parts are done. Just 2 more parts to go and the interior parts for the most part are done except the door panels. Far as Door panels I am modifying them a bit I want to add speakers to them since the back speakers are not good.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #529, 05-10-2015 09:28 AM
      How's about some pics and an update Rob man???


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #530, 05-10-2015 10:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

How's about some pics and an update Rob man???


LOL ok They will mess with ya tho! Well soon as it warms up a bit it's only 50 out BRRRRRRRRR I am staying under this blanket till the sun comes out!!!

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #531, 05-10-2015 11:42 AM
      111 is our lowest this week here. I should send some sun your way!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #532, 05-11-2015 11:24 PM
      And the color choice is...........................................



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #533, 05-20-2015 06:44 PM
      Ok John here is the update pic you wanted


Got the lock set thanks! now I can finish the door skins!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #534, 05-21-2015 11:22 PM
      Ok, spent the last 2 nights of free moments making a switch for the performance transmission function. I found a switch in a late 90's saturn sc2 and modified it to fit within the Fiero blank spot where the rear defrost was located. So here is how I made it. I will install it this weekend as I have to run a hot wire for the little light and another wire to ground it out as that is how it works.



At this point in the pics the switch housing was taken from the saturn and ground down to fit within the back of the fiero plate. I then transferred the hole by drilling and carefully grinding it to shape

t this point the switch itself retained the original wire clip but being it goes out the side I had to modify it as there is not enough room in the gauge pod side for it.


Then I covered the bare wires with potting resin to lock the wires on since the plug had to be removed. I then extended it a bit with some hot glue to make sure it was all sealed.

Then bonded the frame to hole the switch , also makes changing it a breeze as it retains the clip in function



Done and looks good to go!




jetsnvettes2000 MSG #535, 05-22-2015 06:03 PM
      SO I could not find seat belts that look good so I decided if in a crash lets just take the driver out of the crash.



John is a Pilot after all!!


tshark MSG #536, 05-22-2015 07:44 PM
      Um, ejecting into air with a parachute is OK, but ejecting on the ground without protection is bad.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #537, 05-23-2015 12:14 AM
     

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #538, 05-23-2015 12:14 AM
      I don't see how ejecting onto the ground with condoms is going to save me...

I think I have a set of seatbelts at the house...grey ones.

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tshark MSG #539, 05-23-2015 07:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

I don't see how ejecting onto the ground with condoms is going to save me...

I think I have a set of seatbelts at the house...grey ones.



Protection--not latex. Helmet, goggles, knee & elbow pads...maybe a protective vest. Most importantly, no other traffic or a wall in the vicinity, though.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #540, 05-23-2015 11:40 AM
      Cool John I have some here from the car we parted out but they are very soiled and doubt they will come clean. I will put them in for now so it has some and you can swap them out with the ones you have once it makes its way back home.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #541, 05-26-2015 11:57 PM
      Parts arrived!!!!! Thanks to Vince at Snapperhead Performance we have a harness that fixes the tail light issue! Now it will blink where it should!! it is a very nice looking harness, all the ends are sealed really well and it has a nice nylon wire loom to protect it from rubbing! He also sent a bunch of cards and stickers to hand out so everyone who is working on this and helping out grab one!! He makes a great product!!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #542, 05-27-2015 12:02 AM
      Been also working on making mounts for the fog lights. I have them in basic form now I just need to fine tune the shape a bit and drill bolt holes as I made them so the whole light assembly can be removed for servicing. the mount will get reshaped so it is all square and nice this is in rough form while it was being formed. it will be a nice square mount with a angled brace in the middle for added support once the shape is fine tuned with the cut off wheel and and paper.



eph_kay (cjcoulter@me.com) MSG #543, 05-27-2015 10:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

And the color choice is...........................................


Your gonna love the storm titanium, lotus does a very good job with it colors, having flake and depth without having it be too much.

I personally have a store titanium elise and the color is awesome!

Chris



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #544, 05-27-2015 11:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by eph_kay:


Your gonna love the storm titanium, lotus does a very good job with it colors, having flake and depth without having it be too much.

I personally have a store titanium elise and the color is awesome!

Chris


Cool had one parked here for a bunch of time while I converted the headlights to hid. My buddy owns it looks just like the pic above it is a great color but what a pain in the ass to change the oil!!!!!!!!! That bottom pan sucks to remove! They should have put a access door in it!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #545, 05-27-2015 11:46 PM
      OK so now that all the flash is cut off the mounts I made here is how it will sit.






johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #546, 05-28-2015 08:11 AM
      Can't seem to post any pics but here is a link to the rims we are thinking. I have no idea how to get the proper size rims and tires so this will be a complete learning experience for me.

http://www.carid.com/touren...achined-1399772.html


JohnWPB MSG #547, 05-28-2015 09:53 AM
      I have the same bumper, and love the way you designed the mounts for the fog lights. I will be borrowing your way of doing it when I put the lights in mine.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #548, 05-28-2015 10:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JohnWPB:

I have the same bumper, and love the way you designed the mounts for the fog lights. I will be borrowing your way of doing it when I put the lights in mine.



If I remember right the lights came from a dodge ram pickup front bumper. Or it was from a Grand am I had these siting on the shelf for years so the memory is a bit fuzzy where they came from. They are modified form original to remove the original mounting holes and other bits to make the part that sits on the fiberglass mount flat.


Tweeter MSG #549, 06-19-2015 01:33 PM
      I like that color. When will it be done?

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #550, 06-19-2015 03:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Tweeter:

I like that color. When will it be done?


Shooting for early august The fabrication of stuff is almost done and final sanding of the body before fill primer is underway.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #551, 06-22-2015 11:25 PM
      Trying to figure out what to take pics of that are relevant! I have been just doing sanding not much looks all that different except just sanded. all I have left to sand is the left rocker scoop, the rockers, the rear bumper, do a little mud work to the right rocker scoop as it has air pockets in the gel coat and a bunch of mud work to the engine scoop as it is wavy as a flag. other than that almost ready for primer if it would ever stop raining!!!! then there will be a ton of pics!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #552, 06-22-2015 11:28 PM
      John do you want the black trim painted car color or do you want to keep it black? I am digging all that stuff out this week and getting it all in order so I know whats here and whats missing. Oh add re-sand door panels to the post above this one. I added more fiberglass to the back side of them after looking at them I just thought a little more would be a good idea at the back in case a shirt gets snagged on the it anyplace. Also I have a 84 right power mirror I grabbed from bone yard thinking it would work for guts but they are different inside than the newer ones so I cant transfer its guts ( it has big dent) Do you have a right one laying around anyplace? and body color or black? Me i would go black with them.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #553, 06-23-2015 01:53 AM
      For the trim and mirrors I would like to make them all body color.I don't think I have any power mirror set ups but if you can get one I will pay for it.

 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

John do you want the black trim painted car color or do you want to keep it black? I am digging all that stuff out this week and getting it all in order so I know whats here and whats missing. Oh add re-sand door panels to the post above this one. I added more fiberglass to the back side of them after looking at them I just thought a little more would be a good idea at the back in case a shirt gets snagged on the it anyplace. Also I have a 84 right power mirror I grabbed from bone yard thinking it would work for guts but they are different inside than the newer ones so I cant transfer its guts ( it has big dent) Do you have a right one laying around anyplace? and body color or black? Me i would go black with them.





Steel MSG #554, 06-23-2015 12:24 PM
      I'm curious what you guys ended up doing with the exhaust cut outs that weren't used? I'm kind in the same boat there, I don't know what do do with them for my project. Considered mesh, just leaving them open or filling the area.

Nice work Jets, and nice car Johnny.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #555, 07-02-2015 08:26 AM
      Everyone do the reverse rain dance for the next 4 days!!!!! Seriously I think we have had like 3 good days in the past 5 weeks! I am thinking if everything goes well this weekend I hope to have most if not all the parts in high build primer. Some of the parts are being a major pain in the ass as the gel coat is super thin and full of massive air pockets. I want it to be right so I am digging out all the bad spots and filling them but it is killing my time frame I set. Have a good holiday!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #556, 07-03-2015 08:47 PM
      And........I would call it 90 percent ready for primer! I finished fixing bad gel coat on the door skins, the Rockers scoops, and front bumper today. Man I am really ticked off about the 600 frigin air pockets I have had to fill Ugh oh well they are fixed now unless more pop out. Tomorrow morning depending on family events I will be scuffing up the rear bumper and the finally sanding the rockers. I am hoping to have it primed soon! I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Now stop turning it off on me!!! not funny!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #557, 07-04-2015 08:32 AM
      Alright Rob...you have to post some pics when you get to that point. it will be the first time the car has been in all one color!!! Maybe you can put your rims on her on one side so we can make some rim size decisions.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #558, 07-04-2015 09:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Alright Rob...you have to post some pics when you get to that point. it will be the first time the car has been in all one color!!! Maybe you can put your rims on her on one side so we can make some rim size decisions.


Shooting for tomorrow bud, I think I will get a least some of the parts in primer if not all. I have a gallon and a half so I should have plenty if the weather lets me it is going to happen. I tend to have this tradition of making milestones on projects during the 4th weekend I want to keep that tradition going.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #559, 07-05-2015 11:48 PM
      SO about those pesky 4th weekend milestones.......................

Dash wiring modified for the trani switch



Body parts ready to prime



Hood ready to prime



Nose ready for primer



Rear clip In high build Fill Primer



Rocker scoops left and right In high build fill primer



Nose in high build fill primer




Front fenders in high build fill primer.



I need to primer the roof, hood, back bumper, door skins and engine lid yet. Got too windy and was afraid id over spray the neighborhood so had to stop for the day. These were the biggest concern parts for me tho besides the door skins. There is a ton of pin holes in the gel coat I need to deal with but with the build primer on now it is a lot easier to see and fix before I sand it all down to its final state before paint. Happy Independence day A day late! Was kinda busy with family to post yesterday but here ya go!!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #560, 07-06-2015 12:09 AM
      Oh hey almost forgot to write here, I left the antenna hole in it. I think the stock one is the way to go if you want to get long range signal. I can still fill it but for now left it in.

Tweeter MSG #561, 07-06-2015 11:09 AM
      Sure is nice to see progress!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #562, 07-12-2015 09:02 PM
      Got a few more parts in build primer today!









So for today was the door skins and rear decklid. All that is left is the roof and the hood and back bumper.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #563, 07-13-2015 08:07 AM
      She is all coming together!!! Once you get her all in primer we need to figure out the rim and tire sizes so we can get them ordered and ready for install after paint.

Steel MSG #564, 07-13-2015 09:43 AM
      Looks great!

notwohorns (notwohorns@gmail.com) MSG #565, 07-13-2015 08:41 PM
      Can't wait to see it when it gets back to Illinois

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #566, 08-23-2015 08:40 PM
      Sanding Sanding Sanding!!!! lots of sanding lots of rain and humidity! Someone tell me a good air dryer for my compressor. I am having massive amounts of water in my line lately making sanding suck when the dust turns to paste!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #567, 08-24-2015 08:12 AM
      Once you put the body back on we need to see what your rims look like size and offset wise.

Tweeter MSG #568, 08-24-2015 09:43 AM
      Watching!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #569, 08-24-2015 06:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Once you put the body back on we need to see what your rims look like size and offset wise.


Mine came off of a dodge avenger first gen not sure year but being mine is a 87 you dont want to use that offset. Look at all of Curley's threads in a few I remember him switching wheels a lot I think he listed sizes.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #570, 09-01-2015 10:35 PM
      Getting closer to the end Fellas! I just have the hood to sand now then it is filling in pin holes here and there and scuffing up the trim and mirrors and rockers. I am trying to have it all wrapped up by this weekend but my dad is in hospital not doing good so I am dividing my time between this, going to hospital and working my second job. Mark get ready I want you to have this thing by Monday if Possible! LETS SEE IT GREY before snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #571, 09-04-2015 12:31 AM
      Got the mirror John!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #572, 09-07-2015 10:00 PM
      Finished sanding the hood and rockers today. All that is left is scuff up the trim now and mirrors. I also filled the hole for the antenna so it will need a bit of refinishing around that area before paint but Mark can handle that little bit I think. So, John..... Send me the Antenna you want, I will need eventually some wheels and silly little stuff I think I am going to leave for you to do. One thing I would do right away is make a front end cage under the nose with rollers like troys to keep it from getting busted up if you bottom out.

Khw (i3ite_ivie@msn.com) MSG #573, 09-07-2015 11:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

And the color choice is...........................................


I've been in one that looked almost exactly like that. The one difference I can remember was it had the black soft top not the hard top like that one.

BTW, Good job jetsnvettes2000. I knew there was a reason I like you . The only thing I don't understand is why you don't have a ratings bar yet? I've seen you help lots of people and you've always been social in your posts that I've seen.

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #574, 09-08-2015 11:29 PM
      Started bolting stuff on to get ready to move it to Marks for paint. Doh.... nicked the hood front edge on a screw! Mark please remind me to replace the stock bumper screws with some pan head screws so if it rubs again it wont dig into the hood!






This is all temporary as Mark will remove it all again to paint it. So, nothing is shimmed it is just on for transport.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #575, 09-09-2015 12:14 AM
     

Looking good !!

Awesome work jets !


Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #576, 09-09-2015 06:28 AM
      Nice!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #577, 09-12-2015 12:02 AM
     


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #578, 09-12-2015 12:04 AM
      What size are the screws that hold the rear decklid lock metal cage? I think they look like a 8-32 I might want to make them 10-32's since the holes are not all that fresh anymore.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #579, 09-12-2015 04:27 PM
      Oh Rob, you are going the right way for a Smack bottom and I don't care who knows it!!!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #580, 09-12-2015 07:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Oh Rob, you are going the right way for. Smack bottom and I don't care who knows it!!!

LOL um.....Stop looking at my butt


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #581, 10-02-2015 02:25 AM
     

johny, still looking for wheels ??

check your pm.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #582, 10-02-2015 09:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
johny, still looking for wheels ??

check your pm.


Like these::::::


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #583, 10-18-2015 09:55 PM
      Guess what???????????????????? ITS PAINT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Off to Firefox it goes! when it comes back only he knows!!!!!!!!! Purdy it will too

Free plug for Archie too in the pic!

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Stubby79 MSG #584, 10-19-2015 11:25 AM
     

av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #585, 10-27-2015 09:43 PM
      Hey Rob it's awesome to see that car on a trailer headed for paint! You and Steve did alot of work on that car and it will look great when complete. I wish I would have been closer so I could've helped you more than I did with this car. I applaud the effort, I can't wait to see it painted. WELL DONE MY FRIEND!!!

Talk to you later, Chris


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #586, 11-10-2015 11:30 PM
      Inching closer.........................



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #587, 11-14-2015 11:55 PM
      Color starts going on TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #588, 11-15-2015 10:42 PM
      One step closer! Its about to Get color coat!!!!!!!





jetsnvettes2000 MSG #589, 11-16-2015 12:17 AM
      IT'S PAINTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Awesome Job Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is major milestone to this build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Two years of hard work by everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks guys soon this bad ass little ride will be out there pounding the streets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #590, 11-16-2015 09:25 AM
      OMG!!!!!!

nosrac MSG #591, 11-17-2015 09:11 PM
      Very Nice!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #592, 11-18-2015 11:25 PM
      Progress pic, Mark is on fire!! Wet sanding underway!!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #593, 11-27-2015 01:53 AM
     



Mark is on fire!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #594, 11-28-2015 09:37 PM
     




jetsnvettes2000 MSG #595, 11-28-2015 09:41 PM
     



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davylong86 MSG #596, 11-28-2015 09:48 PM
      Looks great! Got to love them hips. I see the dog looking out the window wanting a ride in this bad boy. Good job Jets and crew.

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #597, 11-29-2015 08:37 AM
      Wow! Just.....wow!

luvfierosforever (pjfrolka@gmail.com) MSG #598, 11-29-2015 11:17 AM
      She looks gorgeous!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #599, 12-05-2015 10:01 PM
     





JohnWPB MSG #600, 12-06-2015 12:01 AM
      Wow, that is looking fantastic! It's nice to see all the hard work coming together into a finished product. For John it has been a lot more than just the 2 years! But FAR more has been done, and done correctly in all the time previous to the 2 years you guys have had it.

When I was with John in Woodstock, he was showing me the shell of a car that he had there to have the work done originally. He was trying to explain to me how it was going to look when it was done. Well that never happened there, as well all know. I can say, It looks a lot better than what I think John was trying to describe that it was going to look like! It is amazing how you took such a tragedy and turned it into what was intended all along. Kudos to the whole team! ! ! ! ! ! !

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Stubby79 MSG #601, 12-06-2015 12:37 AM
      Excellent taste in color! Needs something to set it off though...hopefully the shiny, big wheels will do that!

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #602, 12-06-2015 11:08 AM
      The paint looks great, it's good to see that you can see light at the end of the tunnel, and know it's not an oncoming train.

Joe.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #603, 12-10-2015 11:54 PM
     






Protective plastic will come off once permanently installed

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Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #604, 12-11-2015 06:58 PM
      I like what you did with the quarter windows. The "bar" eliminates the need to fold the end over. Great idea!

Nice job. Very.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #605, 03-27-2016 01:45 PM
      Bump and long overdue update!!!!! Work has been slow over the last few months as it is still winter here but, the car is I would safely say 80% percent done now. Today I got a bunch more interior done adding the seat belts and tucking and fitting wire bundles in places that they didn't exist before the 3800 went in. Sail panels are pre fabed and waiting for warm weather to install, sail panel trim pieces are all riveted and bonded now just need to wait for warm weather to paint them and other bits made too. Pretty happy with how it's going together so far and hopefully the weather starts getting nicer so I can pull it out of the garage and have more room to work on it. I think this week I should have the rest of the interior in and them time to modify all the trim plates o their new look. I am on the fence yet about the door panels if I want to leather wrap them or not I might not have enough material so I will explore that in a few more weeks when it warms up so I can do it in the sun when it is best to stretch the leatheret.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #606, 05-03-2016 10:40 PM
      Long overdue update video style!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #607, 05-15-2016 05:37 PM
      Selling the corvette tail light panel please help the build and buy it!!! thread in the mall!!!!!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #608, 05-24-2016 07:17 PM
      deleted vid was annoying enough.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #609, 05-24-2016 08:45 PM
      So Cool! She is really coming together Rob. Robochop, LOL.

ROTTINCHOP!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #610, 05-24-2016 09:35 PM
      Oh snap!!! I loaded that at midnight and well was a bit tired I will fix it

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #611, 05-24-2016 10:23 PM
      Jets you rock !

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #612, 05-24-2016 10:45 PM
      There fixed it and added corny music!!!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #613, 05-30-2016 01:11 PM
      That music is...corny!
You guys need to see the nose Rob did on this thing!!!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #614, 05-30-2016 06:56 PM
     


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Had a bad day with the car, so the gel coat is letting go off the fiberglass in places on the nose and looks like there was lots of air pockets under it in the fiberglass so, we need to repaint it now after the sun hit it for a few hours. . Pissing me off big time. This nose has been a pain in the ass from day one. Hope we have enough paint left to fix it.

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JohnWPB MSG #615, 05-30-2016 10:49 PM
      Wow, it is coming along nicely! SImply amazing.....

I would loved to watch the full video, but I could not hear the narration due to the music, and I could not take more than 30 seconds of that "music" before I had to stop it Like a kinder gardener learning to play the flute for the first time, and only knows 5 notes at that hahahh!




fireboss (ericj@live.com) MSG #616, 05-31-2016 01:47 AM
      SWEET!!!

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #617, 06-01-2016 02:09 PM
      I just hate poor fiberglass work, there is no excuse for air entrapment. That bumper came for Whodeani, right? Sucks that you have rework this late in the game...

Joe

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Fiero Thomas (tom@fieronews.net) MSG #618, 06-01-2016 03:51 PM
      The car looks great. Sorry about the bumper issue. Just think of what you will have soon in your hands. A Nice set of keys to an awesome car.



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #619, 06-01-2016 10:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:

I just hate poor fiberglass work, there is no excuse for air entrapment. That bumper came for Whodeani, right? Sucks that you have rework this late in the game...

Joe



Even more wide spread than I first noticed. I let it sit out in the sun and every place it has gel coat had same issues. now I am redoing the rear hips, the door tops and the front bumper. Luckily I had removed most of the gel coat off the hips when I added them so it was isolated to a few small spots same with the door tops. As much as it sucks I will not let the car leave here till I am satisfied it would be good enough for me if someone was doing it for me. It will get fixed just a little set back. Since I am grinding down the nose I am really considering adding the missing screw ledge along the top of it that on a stock bumper allows it to be closer to the hood without the hood rubbing on the screws when it opens. On a stock bumper if you look it overlaps the vertical part a bit that attaches to the metal frame. this bumper did not have that extension and to close up the hood gas we had to sacrifice the hood opening all the way to the second latch point. so maybe this was the excuse I needed to fix something that has bugged me from day 1


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #620, 06-01-2016 10:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:

SO about those pesky 4th weekend milestones.......................

Dash wiring modified for the trani switch



Body parts ready to prime



Hood ready to prime



Nose ready for primer



Rear clip In high build Fill Primer



Rocker scoops left and right In high build fill primer



Nose in high build fill primer




Front fenders in high build fill primer.



I need to primer the roof, hood, back bumper, door skins and engine lid yet. Got too windy and was afraid id over spray the neighborhood so had to stop for the day. These were the biggest concern parts for me tho besides the door skins. There is a ton of pin holes in the gel coat I need to deal with but with the build primer on now it is a lot easier to see and fix before I sand it all down to its final state before paint. Happy Independence day A day late! Was kinda busy with family to post yesterday but here ya go!!



The irony in this post back then I saw some of the problems in the gel coat who knew there was even more hiding...


motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #621, 06-03-2016 08:37 AM
      Ugh, what a freakin' pain. If you have the time, get the car out in the sun for a couple of weeks, just let it bake. I just hate doing a job twice because of bad fiberglass.

Looks like my comment about a light at the end of the tunnel was dead wrong. Sorry if I jinxed you...

BTW, welcome to the construction zone...

Joe

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #622, 06-04-2016 12:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:

Ugh, what a freakin' pain. If you have the time, get the car out in the sun for a couple of weeks, just let it bake. I just hate doing a job twice because of bad fiberglass.

Looks like my comment about a light at the end of the tunnel was dead wrong. Sorry if I jinxed you...

BTW, welcome to the construction zone...

Joe



Wow what a surprise! I almost freaked out when the thread was closed in general! So still popping bubbles. I will let the bumper sit out tommorow if it is not raining again but I think I have found most of the issues. Started repairing them and so far I think I got the hips taken care of and now working on the door tops I have a ford focus in the way of getting it out of the garage at moment as I had the ford scheduled to be here for a trani fix thinking Johns car would have been in Milwaukee this week getting its parts bolted on so, till I finish up the ford it is stuck in the garage. I should be good by Sunday I think tho if everything goes right with the ford I got the trani back in tonight had a bad slave cylinder. just need to bolt it down and get a new trani mount from the bone yard tomorrow as it is cracked and I dont want to give it back like that. One thing I have been working on while I cant do other things is figuring out a way to support the rear decklid and I have come up with a nice gas strut to hold it open that does not get in way of supercharger or anything else. I will post pics of it soon. Think I may have top get a stronger gas strut tho right now I have a 60lb one on it but with the wing I think i will have to step up to a 80 and I am going to get a locking one too so it can be mechanically locked open on windy days at car shows.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #623, 06-04-2016 12:41 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Steel:

I'm curious what you guys ended up doing with the exhaust cut outs that weren't used? I'm kind in the same boat there, I don't know what do do with them for my project. Considered mesh, just leaving them open or filling the area.

Nice work Jets, and nice car Johnny.


Decided to leave them open in case anything from the road gets stuck in them like roadkill. Dont need it smelling like death.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #624, 06-07-2016 12:09 AM
      John!!! I know your off playing flying gas station but I really need that door ram!!!! lol!! Most of the repairs to the gel coat are done I just need to spot prime a few spots then wait for the never ending rain to stop so I can leave the nose out in the sun some more and wrap that mess up. Onward!!! Trunk lid gas strut setup I made works nice! Might have to do one in my car too!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #625, 06-07-2016 12:30 AM
      Will do as soon as I get back. Off to slip the surly bonds!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #626, 06-09-2016 12:13 AM
      Geez John you could at least have left R-2 to help with things around here have fun in the land of apu!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #627, 06-22-2016 12:42 AM
      Repairs coming along, lots and lots of pin holes in the fiberglass to fill now that I have the nose stripped bare of the bad gel coat/bubbly fiberglass mudded up and sanded. Sprayed a light coat of fill primer on it tonight to see where I was at with it and I am thinking with a few more days of work being very picky I should have it ready for repaint by next week if all goes well. The hips and door panels are also in fill prim and need final sanding again.... This has been a nightmare to fix. Burnt 200 bucks in material so far between sand paper fill primer and mud and still need to get more paint probably. Not cool not at all when I am on a very tight personal budget.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #628, 06-29-2016 12:45 AM
      Finished the last bit of wiring tonight as I had to modify a harness for the power mirrors. the bumper is fixed and ready for a final coat of filler just to be safe. the door skins are sanded and ready for paint same with the hips. I have decided to not show pictures of the rework areas I want this to be a happy memory and seeing the car as you see it above it will be again in 2 weeks when it goes back to Milwaukee for repaint. For now I am fine tuning things that bothered me the first time around and made a few changes that hopefully make it all worth it.Right now I am looking for a stick on seal l shaped rubber quarter by quarter neoprene black gasket for the hood. I do not like the hood gap but need ot for the hood to properly work so the solution will be to do like they do on a lot of the newer cars and fill gaps with gaskets. then I can color match the gasket using grey rtv it is almost a exact match to this paint and smooths out like glass using a old aircraft sealing trick I learned years ago.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #629, 07-05-2016 11:52 PM
      John got The rubber on the Wheels finally, Hopefully it cools down a bit so i can stand being in the Garage!! was 98 in there tonight but put them on and I discovered the offset is prob pretty good for the back but for sure the front is just way too far off to even consider using those rims as it is not a off road stadium truck. We need a good Inch and a half or more to make it look right. Other than that waiting on door ram I put old one back in it for now so it cant go by mark for repair paint and all the trim parts added. Was messing with a few other things too blacking out areas and just starting to clean it all up while I wait.


BlackThunderGT MSG #630, 08-06-2016 01:13 PM
      Looking good!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #631, 08-11-2016 12:11 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BlackThunderGT:

Looking good!


Will be better once mark comes and gets it...... eh hum...psst Mark come get it!!!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #632, 08-14-2016 01:23 AM
      Car is back off to paint to be finished! I cant wait to see it with the wing on and all the trim Getting closer John better come home soon!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #633, 08-29-2016 11:13 PM
      Happy Birthday John!!!!!!!! Get your ass back here soon!!!!!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #634, 08-31-2016 06:34 AM
      Be home shortly!!!!!!!!!!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #635, 11-06-2016 12:31 PM
      Car coming back from Milwaukee Sunday! Cant wait to see it with everything painted! Time to finish this once and for all!!! John See ya when ya get back stateside!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #636, 11-07-2016 11:28 PM
      Heard from John today Wish him luck as he heads out for yet another deployment!! Everyone should know what he did for a fellow Pilot, The fella has a young family with a even younger child and John Volunteered to take his place so he could stay home with his family. Bravo buddy!! See ya when you get back!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #637, 11-18-2016 09:33 PM
      John you have been waiting a long ass time to see this..... It's time to reveal the interior Don't pay attention to the steering wheel we have a gt one for it just not installed yet.





Cover under dash not on yet I have to wire in a switch for fog lights




Oops forgot to put the lenses in Ill do that in a bit...


Temp seat covers till you can get the MR Mikes ones It would be cool if MR MIKE would donate some................





Nose is fixed just need to put fog lights back in and wire them






Looks good so far but now for the bad......
We need to respray the mirrors and the left rear quarter panel again as more blisters in the gel coat on the wide hip popped out again. We will be able to fix them pretty quick tho as they are not as bad as the others were Still annoying tho we want this thing done!!!!! Far as the rest things left : install big brakes I will prob do that this weekend, get hardware to final install rockers and fender bottoms, drill hols for clips for front wheel well liners when I have the tires off for the brakes and then detailing till it goes back to Mark to get the paint fixed again. Once at Marks the beltline trim will go on, the wing and that's it pretty much done except new wheels and a alignment. I polished the whole car Wednesday it looks nice so far! Oh I need to go buy a tube of trim glue too the windshield trim is being a stinker so I need to reglue it back down if I dont just go get a new one this one seems to be oily causing adhesion problems with the glue.


JohnWPB MSG #638, 11-27-2016 08:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:
Had a bad day with the car, so the gel coat is letting go off the fiberglass in places on the nose and looks like there was lots of air pockets under it in the fiberglass


Wow, I am sorry to see so many fiberglass issues! Just when you think it is painted and done, tons more sanding and doing it all over again.........
Did Dean make that front bumper?

Great progress with the interior, it's really looking sharp!

@John: Classy guy to swap shifts to let a new father be home with his family for the Hilidays! ! ! !

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skuzzbomer MSG #639, 11-29-2016 01:45 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skuzzbomer:

Holy **** .... I thought it needed a lot of work but I had no idea it was that bad. Damn.

Guys, if you can make it right, I'll have to buy you all a beer.


 
quote
Originally posted by Raydar:


I'll buy the second round.

Looking forward to real progress.


3+ years later....
My offer still stands strong. Very nearly there.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #640, 11-29-2016 09:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skuzzbomer:


3+ years later....
My offer still stands strong. Very nearly there.


Ya it's been a long haul with Johns constant deployments and very sparse funding. it has been a really slow project, getting close tho the light is def there at the end of the tunnel ahead.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #641, 12-24-2016 08:09 AM
      About a month and I get to come home!!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #642, 12-24-2016 12:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

About a month and I get to come home!!!!


When you do I want a visit!!!


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #643, 12-27-2016 05:04 PM
      No...I am coming to live with you!!!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #644, 12-27-2016 08:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

No...I am coming to live with you!!!!!


K but I get top bunk!


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #645, 12-31-2016 07:29 PM
      So fellas Johnny is going to be home in 17 days! time to party!!!

tshark MSG #646, 02-04-2017 09:06 PM
      Update? Can't wait to see this car.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #647, 02-09-2017 10:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

Update? Can't wait to see this car.


Been really cold so have not worked on it other than running it a bit to keep battery good. Soon as it warms up a bit I will be doing the big brakes and then Mark is coming up here so we can finish up the paint and start getting things buttoned up for the last time. I had to remove one of the trunk d covers the right side one was leaking and the trunk got all wet and nasty so I wanted to make sure that was not going to happen again once John has it so I grabbed a nicer one and hopefully that will fix the water problem. The interior is basically in and done I just need to screw down the bottom cover of the steering and detailing. We need to find a nice set of 18 inch rims that will fit a 88 Fiero and the correct offset for them so if anyone has a idea what to use far as offset I am all ears. John is home BTW in case anyone was wondering.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #648, 02-12-2017 12:40 PM
      I'm home from the desert but headed right back over. Pace of things right now is insane!!!

Would these work?

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/wto/5984497629.html

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #649, 02-13-2017 11:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

I'm home from the desert but headed right back over. Pace of things right now is insane!!!

Would these work?

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/wto/5984497629.html




I think so I read someplace people used the pt cruiser wheels on their cars, the thing we need to look for is ones to fit the offset of the 88. I cant use my car as a test as it is a 87. DId you get that door ram yet? Call Archie@!!! and no worries if your headed back over I will just keep chipping away at stuff till ya get back.

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tshark MSG #650, 05-09-2017 06:38 PM
      Once this project hit the Construction Zone, it seems to have died, just like road work. Once they put the signs up, it takes FOREVER for them to finish.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #651, 05-12-2017 08:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

Once this project hit the Construction Zone, it seems to have died, just like road work. Once they put the signs up, it takes FOREVER for them to finish.


Not dead we only work on it during the summer months due to lack of all things heat here in Wisconsin. John has been re deployed so I am sitting on the car doing little things while he is gone. There is a thousand build threads on doing big brakes and all the other stuff going on to the car right now so didn't bother taking pics of all that. If anyone can steer us towards better fitting wheels tho we could use a hand. its a 88 and the turbine wheels stick out way too far so John wants to get different ones once he gets home from the war. Other than that the car is alive and well I just picked up steel to make a cage for under the nose to protect it from bottoming out. once I get the chance ill start getting it all in place I am doing it similar to Troyboy's car with roller blade wheels. interior is done in the car except for Mr Mikes seat covers. With John gone the budget for the car has blown way over my personal finances so its a slow go for now but still moving along. Keep in mind I have been paying for most of this out of my pocket and time as a single dad it is not easy I did this cause it was the right thing to do not cause I was looking for some financial gain. All things good come in time as will this car once it is done and being enjoyed by John and his son.

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tshark MSG #652, 05-18-2017 09:41 PM
      I'm glad you replied. Reading my post, the tone didn't come out how I intended, but you answered my question. I hope your child is at least 3. Before 3, they time required is basically all free time.

For some reason, I thought this car was an '87.

The good thing about this forum is that you can look through builds of every type, to help you with yours. The bad thing about this forum is that everything has been done, so current builds aren't posted.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #653, 05-19-2017 10:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

I'm glad you replied. Reading my post, the tone didn't come out how I intended, but you answered my question. I hope your child is at least 3. Before 3, they time required is basically all free time.

For some reason, I thought this car was an '87.

The good thing about this forum is that you can look through builds of every type, to help you with yours. The bad thing about this forum is that everything has been done, so current builds aren't posted.


No prob, Far as the kids, I have 3 ages 11 15 and 17 I raise alone Women can be deadbeats as well I have learned. So, the budget tends to get tight now that one is driving and another soon to follow. I just talked to Mark(FireFox) and right after the holiday we are set to get the trim painted up and he will be coming up here from Milwaukee to help respray the area we are still having issues with the gel coat. This will be the third time respraying the rear hips due to air pockets in the gelcoat expanding in the heat I think a lighter color on the car would have helped this as the lotus color gets really friggin hot in the sun. Once that is done its a quick detailing and then I will start driving it a bit to break in stuff and getting the brakes all worked in. John wants me to take it to a car show or two so we will have to see about that being it has no plates or registration here yet. Other than that it is pretty much done except fighting with verticle doors over their crappy door rams that go flat. THey are making us jump threw hoops to get a replacement it is very annoying for sure!!

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tshark MSG #654, 05-20-2017 08:16 AM
      You have 3 home-grown helpers!

That paint is hotter than black?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #655, 05-20-2017 04:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

You have 3 home-grown helpers!

That paint is hotter than black?
maybe not as quite as hot but, hot enough it is causing issues with the flaws in the gel coat/ resin bond. If I ever take on another project like this for someone I will be sure to request the fiberglass parts come naked without gel coat on them, then I can be sure I dont have any hidden gremlins for me ever. This has been a major draw back costing us months of work that has been done and redone over and over due to the air pockets that were hiding under the gel coat.



johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #656, 05-21-2017 01:35 AM
      Hopefully I will be back soon. However, military ops being what they are, I won't be home for long.

Rob, if you have spent money on the car I need to know how much so you can be fully reimbursed. Your personal money can get spent but I don't ever want you, or anyone else who helps you, out cash. You have the knowledge and I am responsible for the money to fund the project. PM me what you have spent please.

I really want you to get credit for the build and be able to enjoy the car. Taking it to car shows so people know you are the builder is one way I was hoping to do that. Beyond that I have one more thing I will do once I have the car which I'm not telling you but will let folks know you and the Sconsin' boys are the builders. It's a surprise!!!

Also, since you guys have all the technical expertise, it makes sense for you guys to shake it down for a bit to make sure all is good before I roll it on a 1000 mile trip to her new home. Most of the swaps have some technical glitches that need the expert to solve.

For the rams, please see if you can talk with Archie and if he will order them and send them to you. Its tough doing that when I am all over the world. Tell Arch I will foot the bill. Just need to know how much.

Rims and tres will be last. We know (kind of) what style we are looking for but the exact offsets and hub sizes escape me. I would love to throw a set of 18 or 19 inch rims from someones 1988 Fiero setup on her. This would be a great start in knowing where we need to go with rims and tire sizes.

Let's get this girl done this year so you can enjoy driving her for a bit....then I can too!!!!
JR

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #657, 05-21-2017 12:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Hopefully I will be back soon. However, military ops being what they are, I won't be home for long.

Rob, if you have spent money on the car I need to know how much so you can be fully reimbursed. Your personal money can get spent but I don't ever want you, or anyone else who helps you, out cash. You have the knowledge and I am responsible for the money to fund the project. PM me what you have spent please.

I really want you to get credit for the build and be able to enjoy the car. Taking it to car shows so people know you are the builder is one way I was hoping to do that. Beyond that I have one more thing I will do once I have the car which I'm not telling you but will let folks know you and the Sconsin' boys are the builders. It's a surprise!!!

Also, since you guys have all the technical expertise, it makes sense for you guys to shake it down for a bit to make sure all is good before I roll it on a 1000 mile trip to her new home. Most of the swaps have some technical glitches that need the expert to solve.

For the rams, please see if you can talk with Archie and if he will order them and send them to you. Its tough doing that when I am all over the world. Tell Arch I will foot the bill. Just need to know how much.

Rims and tres will be last. We know (kind of) what style we are looking for but the exact offsets and hub sizes escape me. I would love to throw a set of 18 or 19 inch rims from someones 1988 Fiero setup on her. This would be a great start in knowing where we need to go with rims and tire sizes.

Let's get this girl done this year so you can enjoy driving her for a bit....then I can too!!!!
JR



Working on it bud, I have a few irons in the fire to figure out the wheels finally. Since vertical doors is being such a jackass I may just pop and get the ebay ones as they are a few pounds stronger and 80 percent cheaper for what looks like the same thing.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #658, 08-20-2017 11:41 PM
      Just a quick update! Car is slowly coming along, Just waiting on a little squirt of paint from Firefox on some parts when he gets to it and a little blend where we had some fiberglass not loving the gelcoat. After that is is basically done except wheels and some lowering ball joints and a Lambo door shock from Vertical doors if they ever get the stick out of their ass and be more customer friendly when their crap goes flat after a year of being opened a dozen times only. Anywho yup just a bit of final assembly a detail and welp then John can take it and do the final touches with his son. Id take a pic but it is all taped up in plastic ready for mark to come visit with a paint brush and some magic.

tshark MSG #659, 09-24-2017 01:06 PM
      I'm just saying, but before long it'll be colder than warmer.

Progress?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #660, 09-24-2017 08:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

I'm just saying, but before long it'll be colder than warmer.

Progress?


Seems John has been hiding!! I kinda know why tho military related so the car is sitting here longer. All the paint work is done and I have been putting the trim on and all that fun finishing stuff I can get too but still waiting on a solution for the door rams. I am about to say screw it and just get ebay ones I found. They are 20 pounds lighter than the vert door ones but I think that's close enough to get it going so I can get the fender back on and the door skin. Plenty of vids of progress on my Facebook page I wonder if I can link the vids to here somehow. PiP drives me nuts having to resize pics to use it I think its time for the forum to use something that auto sizes the pics or something easier.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #661, 09-24-2017 08:58 PM
      https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155533084720903/

https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155522671190903/

https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155522619190903/

https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155522114845903/



jetsnvettes2000 MSG #662, 10-06-2017 11:30 PM
      Finally! said screw you to Vertical doors and modified a Ebay gas shock at work. Results??? Perfect!! works better than the original ones! Made a little video of it and random stuff of the car. After all the waiting I can now finally put it together for the last time!! Here is a link to my facebook vid. Addy me as a friend on their if you like and have not yet.

https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155646266135903/


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #663, 10-09-2017 06:04 PM
     









https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155651495200903/

That should fix your update lust a bit...


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #664, 10-18-2017 04:15 PM
      Finally we got new wheels coming, these should look great with it!



motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #665, 10-19-2017 11:35 AM
      It's good to see this reach the finish line after all Johnny and the car have been through...

Joe


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #666, 10-19-2017 09:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:

It's good to see this reach the finish line after all Johnny and the car have been through...

Joe


Darn Skippy, we need to get him in his car soon he is going nuts!! He sent me a pic of his and his flight buddies new hobby collecting my little ponies!@!!


tshark MSG #667, 10-25-2017 08:13 AM
      Thanks for the updates. Pics here look good, except the wilted spare tire cover. No can do on facebook. Not on there.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #668, 10-25-2017 10:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

Thanks for the updates. Pics here look good, except the wilted spare tire cover. No can do on facebook. Not on there.


Wilted!! Awe heck no, that thing is brand new out of the box, just needs to relax a bit and not fully put on all the way.


motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #669, 10-26-2017 06:19 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000:


Darn Skippy, we need to get him in his car soon he is going nuts!! He sent me a pic of his and his flight buddies new hobby collecting my little ponies!@!!


Egad...

Joe


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #670, 10-26-2017 08:07 PM
      Wheels came today now I am just waiting on the lug nuts to show up in the mail.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #671, 10-27-2017 12:20 AM
      Wheel day!! here is a vid!!

https://www.facebook.com/r3...s/10155705433245903/


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #672, 11-06-2017 11:23 PM
      In a land far far away of blown sand and golden sunsets our friends fly with the guidance of their little pony.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #673, 11-06-2017 11:26 PM
      They sure have a hell of a view from their office Window tho!!


Some call it the Viper, Some call it the Falcon I just call that jet Pure sexy. I love the f-16 fell in love with it as a kid growing up watching Iron Eagle. Man John ya got a great view indeed!

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jetsnvettes2000 MSG #674, 11-26-2017 11:57 PM
      Well the long wait is over for the wheels, after adding longer studs to the back and some nice new lug nuts they are all mounted and ready.




jetsnvettes2000 MSG #675, 12-31-2017 03:36 PM
      Happy New year from John!!!



tshark MSG #676, 02-02-2018 12:08 AM
      Cool. He kindof has a Yaeger thing going. Glad to see this project wrapping up.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #677, 02-11-2018 01:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tshark:

Cool. He kindof has a Yaeger thing going. Glad to see this project wrapping up.


Yup, just texted with him a bit last night, he is off today in Vegas for Red Flag Training stuff. The car is pretty much sitting done now except for lowering it and alignment. I am still trying to decide the best way to lower it in the front given its 18 inch wheels and big brakes. The nose is super long with the Fiero Fiberglass one now so getting up and down my driveway is a real trick at stock height. I am afraid to tear it off if I lower it so I think once the snow is gone and John Registers the car I will have it aligned as is and let him lower it down by him someplace possibly. I will be driving it to wherever he ends up so its going to be a super long drive and I don't want to wreck it on the way so stuck on deciding how I will do it either lower it here or there. Cabin ever is starting to set in I have not been able to work outside for 2 months, we have this constant almost zero or lower temps this year and its been a pain in the ass for getting stuff done. Where do I get/find one, the wrench for the coil overs on his car, that seems to have vanished in the days before It came to me.


Larryinkc MSG #678, 02-11-2018 05:16 PM
      I have Qa1 coilovers on my front and ended up with a Motion Pro ATV shock wrench. It works much better that the spanner wrenches that came with the Qa1s.


Heat treated alloy steel
Fits many street, off-road and ATV single shock applications
Sized for 68 and 87 mm OD lock rings with a 8 mm notch



I bought mine on ebay


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mo...d:g:nncAAOSwPzhZ-Ori


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #679, 02-14-2018 10:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Larryinkc:

I have Qa1 coilovers on my front and ended up with a Motion Pro ATV shock wrench. It works much better that the spanner wrenches that came with the Qa1s.


Heat treated alloy steel
Fits many street, off-road and ATV single shock applications
Sized for 68 and 87 mm OD lock rings with a 8 mm notch



I bought mine on ebay


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mo...d:g:nncAAOSwPzhZ-Ori



Great thanks!
I will nab that one


Joseph MSG #680, 02-15-2018 08:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Larryinkc:

I have Qa1 coilovers on my front and ended up with a Motion Pro ATV shock wrench. It works much better that the spanner wrenches that came with the Qa1s.


Heat treated alloy steel
Fits many street, off-road and ATV single shock applications
Sized for 68 and 87 mm OD lock rings with a 8 mm notch



I bought mine on ebay


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mo...d:g:nncAAOSwPzhZ-Ori


Thanks for the info I ordered one for my project.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #681, 05-02-2018 08:21 PM
      Happy retirement from the Air force bud, now that ya have some time to kill lets get your car outa my garage and into yours!!!

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #682, 06-13-2018 07:46 PM
      Been doing a bunch of odds and ends tidying up on Johns car and now to the last major thing that I can do that I was going to let him do but I think I will just tackle it since its still here. So, there is coil overs in the back what would be the easiest way to lower the front on this 88 with the 18 inch wheels.


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #683, 07-12-2018 09:21 PM
      1 set of Rodneys lowering ball joints Check! time to make it look right. I don't think we need to beat that horse to death showing the install you guys know the drill Been a long road getting the car done but with these installed thats it folks just a bit of detailing and done. Onto the next build..

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #684, 07-17-2018 10:57 PM
     

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #685, 07-17-2018 10:58 PM
      Needs to settle a bit but I think 1 inch drop due to steep driveway will be good enough for now.

shemdogg MSG #686, 07-19-2018 08:27 PM
      that looks awesome!

shem


Steel MSG #687, 07-20-2018 12:18 AM
      Great work on the car looks excellent.

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #688, 10-28-2018 12:37 AM
      Tomorrow morning the Rottin Chop leaves for it's new home. It is going to the same owner that bought Robochop. John will have access to drive it whenever he visits as I will be servicing the car for as long as the new owner has it. We have few things to work out yet like seat covers but overall the car is done and on the road and lays rubber like a champ. Thanks for all the support everyone!! We got this done for John and well life, military and time has a way of changing things and John is now onto his new life as an Airline Pilot and just simply did not have the place to keep the car anymore in case you were wondering why the sale. I had a blast building it and will do another eventually again!

DL10 (dl10@frontier.com) MSG #689, 11-27-2018 11:28 AM
      I really hope You keep the money from this sale...

jetsnvettes2000 MSG #690, 12-09-2018 08:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by DL10:

I really hope You keep the money from this sale...


Nope, every penny went to John. I did it for free and expect nothing in return.


skuzzbomer MSG #691, 07-09-2019 03:50 PM
      Wow... I just caught up after however long.

Any update on how the new owner is treating it these days?


jetsnvettes2000 MSG #692, 10-19-2019 10:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skuzzbomer:

Wow... I just caught up after however long.

Any update on how the new owner is treating it these days?


The car is sitting in a garage being stored away for the future. When bringing home it was having issues like it went into limp mode backfiring and chugging along. I think being the ac wire is not hooked up on the line from the pump he turned on the ac thinking it was there and it tripped it. I noticed my chop did same thing if ac was turned on when not hooked up. or bad Coil pack or crank sensor. Other than that the car still looks good, just needs some sorting out. The owner works as my assistant at my job so I have a constant eye on this one and my old Chop that he daily drives.