Project "off the Rickst'er Scale" begins
Topic started by: Bozzie, Date: 01-26-2012 05:45 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000135.html


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1, 01-26-2012 05:45 PM
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1988holleyformula MSG #2, 01-26-2012 06:07 PM
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Nice transformation so far.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #3, 01-26-2012 09:00 PM
     

Looking good bozzie !


ThatFieroKid MSG #4, 01-26-2012 09:20 PM
      I'm liking what you're doing with the bodywork. I'm gonna watch this thread.

On an unrelated note, where can I get one of those awesome K&N banners in the background?


nitroheadz28 MSG #5, 01-26-2012 10:23 PM
      Beautiful!! That was my dream to do that to my car

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #6, 01-27-2012 09:51 AM
      Thanks for the compliments guys ! Ive been following alot of widebody builds over the years and its finally my turn ! I'll post more pics soon.....and to the "kid" i got that K&N poster at a trade show a few years back



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #7, 01-27-2012 09:53 AM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #8, 01-27-2012 09:55 AM
      Thanks Holleyformula for the tip on postin pics !!

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #9, 01-27-2012 03:18 PM
      Ok, now that i know how to post i'll start at the beginning. Here is my 88GT with 31k miles on it. I bought it with 28k back in 2006. Took er' out on nice days and enjoyed her for what she was.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #10, 01-27-2012 03:19 PM
      Next came 18" TSW's 8" front 9" rears



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #11, 01-27-2012 03:20 PM
      Battery relocation Via West Coast Bucket



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #12, 01-27-2012 03:21 PM
      Made a custom fiberglass enclosure for the passenger kick......yes....it Rocks ! And plenty of foot room as well .



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #13, 01-27-2012 03:23 PM
      I had Dietmar make this rear spoiler with 3rd brakelight while he was still building for people.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #14, 01-27-2012 03:25 PM
      Here is a pic of my hood. Its a mustang cobra hood idea i got from another PFF member....i believe his car was purple.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #15, 01-27-2012 03:26 PM
      Here is the Dietmar sideskirts and scoop i had made well. These pieces are now for sale 450 shipped.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #16, 01-27-2012 03:27 PM
      This is were i start the Archie Widebody Kit.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #17, 01-27-2012 03:43 PM
      Kits comes in !!! My buddy who's takin the pic is not as happy for me ! LOL

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Xyster MSG #18, 01-27-2012 04:03 PM
     
I like what I see so far. Very nice.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #19, 02-01-2012 01:32 PM
      Step 1....striping body panels

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #20, 02-01-2012 01:33 PM
      Cutting the quarters

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #21, 02-01-2012 01:34 PM
      Trial fit Favorite part so far !!

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #22, 02-01-2012 01:36 PM
      Front side view

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #23, 02-01-2012 01:40 PM
      Trunk ???? Perfect spot for the upcoming TURBO

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nosrac MSG #24, 02-01-2012 01:50 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Bozzie:





What R your mods in that BEAST? I see the GEN V, IC, Headers, but what cam and what TB is that?


nosrac MSG #25, 02-01-2012 02:24 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Bozzie:

Trunk ???? Perfect spot for the upcoming TURBO





 
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Originally posted by Bozzie:








I assume you wan't a rear mounted Turbo.
Better hold off or sell off all those pretty SC mods as you won't need any of them if going turbo? Ask me how I know this?
However, SC is better for winning shows Turbo for winning races. Choose your addiction.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #26, 02-01-2012 03:17 PM
      Nosrac.....the motor you see was my 1st build. Has Billet TB from ZZperformance, 4" maf sensor, stage 4 cam, 2" intercooler, etc......if you look in the background you'll see a set of ZZP Aluminum heads I took this motor apart and did the heads, a stage 3 Turbo cam, pics to come Blower is sold .



nosrac MSG #27, 02-01-2012 04:26 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Bozzie:

Nosrac.....the motor you see was my 1st build. Has Billet TB from ZZperformance, 4" maf sensor, stage 4 cam, 2" intercooler, etc......if you look in the background you'll see a set of ZZP Aluminum heads I took this motor apart and did the heads, a stage 3 Turbo cam, pics to come Blower is sold .



Oh, snap!
So what Turbo are you using and where are you mounting it. I am also doing a rear mounted 3800 Turbo build too using ZZP PEM and custom T4 adapter Flange.
Also, Stage 3 Turbo Cam, Water to Air IC, L26 intake with /HV3, etc, etc.
Did you run the old setup @ the track? What are your power goals?


Justinbart MSG #28, 02-01-2012 04:40 PM
      Welcome to the club and why haven't you been posting!
You're not letting DH and I critique your build







nosrac MSG #29, 02-01-2012 04:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Justinbart:

Welcome to the club and why haven't you been posting!




X2
Jeah, give me some more ideas to copy.
I am gunning for the cleanest looking swap with the highest trapping 1/4 mile 3800 Turbo Fiero.
Those shooting for 9 sec passes are
I don't think any of them have cages and the proper safety equipment.


Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #30, 02-01-2012 06:19 PM
      Hey man, glad to see you're up on the boards now. I wish I had gotten a chance to bring my 3800t by the shop but it looks like you're moving along quite well without much "inspiration" lol. Lookin good!

redraif (redraif@yahoo.com) MSG #31, 02-01-2012 06:49 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Bozzie:

Here is a pic of my hood. Its a mustang cobra hood idea i got from another PFF member....i believe his car was purple.


Yes soulcrusher....

Nice work so far. I'm definitely watching this thread.

Sent pm....




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #32, 02-02-2012 09:46 AM
      Thanks Jnc ! good to hear from you. Hows your goin ? I always wanted to see that thing ! Are you coming up here again someday ?

Rick



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #33, 02-02-2012 09:49 AM
      Hey Justin ! You have been a inspiration as well on my build, Ive been a silent watcher for awhile reading all the posts on here. Its time to post my build as it is coming to a truition finally. I do appreciate anything anybody has to say and i hope people dont use this venue as a means of venting and not beating there wives !! LOL



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #34, 02-02-2012 09:53 AM
      Nos.....ironic on the builds were doing ! I have a garrett T4 70ar bb liquid cooled turbo. Headers are zzp with custom turbo mount off of it to locate it in the trunk. Water to air intercooler as well. I'll post a pic soon. I never ran that motor with the blower, i build it, and had it read to drop in and then got bored , and ripped it down and went turbo......i have more fun building it i think...thou it'll probably scare the heck out of me when i get it dialed in !! Est. for 500 to 550hp



darkhorizon MSG #35, 02-02-2012 08:30 PM
      I wouldnt be fiddling around with 500hp numbers myself...

What sort of trans setup do you have going? The horsepower is the easy part.... with those heads and assuming you have a quality T70 turbo.... Toss some e85 in and 800hp+ would be a walk in the park.

I suggest AGAINST the headers myself, I am not convinced the heat loss is worth the "directed flow" that a closer to the motor exhaust gives.... Considering there are major RPM issues that need to be addressed on a 3800.

feel free to post up questions as you get moving along.



Jfrost MSG #36, 02-03-2012 12:08 AM
      Excited for this build. That first engine set up you had was sexy, can't wait to see pics of the new turbo set up with the aluminum heads!

Justinbart MSG #37, 02-03-2012 12:19 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by darkhorizon:


I suggest AGAINST the headers myself, I am not convinced the heat loss is worth the "directed flow" that a closer to the motor exhaust gives.... Considering there are major RPM issues that need to be addressed on a 3800.
.


Header wrap goes a long way.



Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #38, 02-03-2012 12:03 PM
      E85 isn't as practical in New England as it may be for you mid-US guys. Last time I was at Ricks shop, I believe the car had a Getrag in it.

darkhorizon MSG #39, 02-03-2012 03:32 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Jncomutt:

E85 isn't as practical in New England as it may be for you mid-US guys. Last time I was at Ricks shop, I believe the car had a Getrag in it.


The alum heads would help nicely... but he will still be able to blow up a few transmissions on 93 octane and stock heads....

Get a bigger clutch than you think you need..... Much bigger.


Justinbart MSG #40, 02-03-2012 10:32 PM
      Manual trans?



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #41, 02-04-2012 09:44 AM
      Well....its a manual..... a G6 thats been Cyro'd and has a Quaife locker in it Aluminum flywheel....etc. Pic to come. Oh....my snow performance meth kit just came in



darkhorizon MSG #42, 02-04-2012 07:50 PM
      bla bla bla, the trans itself has nothing to do with the pain in the ass that is running a manual trans.

I heard that tilton clutches took 8+ weeks to build, so I would get the order in asap.


redraif (redraif@yahoo.com) MSG #43, 02-22-2012 11:19 PM
      Any more pics of the side skirts/rockers? Deciding if they will work with my planned mods... if you have a straight on side shot for a photoshop?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #44, 03-16-2012 01:12 AM
     

Bozzie,

Any new progress ?


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #45, 03-16-2012 10:20 AM
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Coming together


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #46, 03-16-2012 10:21 AM
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Getting rid of some seams


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #47, 03-16-2012 10:23 AM
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Quarters , i didnt bother lookin at the instructions thou they are quite good from archie....ive seen this done a dozen times here and done it in my dreams a thousand as well !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #48, 03-16-2012 10:24 AM
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Fiberglassin


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #49, 03-16-2012 10:31 AM
     

Fender gap.....this kit, thou real good does need to be worked...but heck...thats the fun part !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #50, 03-16-2012 10:33 AM
     

Glassed


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #51, 03-16-2012 10:37 AM
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Door coming together.....this is so time comsuming !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #52, 03-16-2012 10:41 AM
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Car is coming together. Ive been working on making in ge gaps tighter in the door seams. The factory gap is just way to much. Now is the time to bring it in. Pics to come. Also on the way is Amida's 512 front bumper )))))) I'll be installing that hopefully next week and making a custom splitter kinda like Whodeanie's. Everybodys cars are such a inspiration to me and my project...thank you


GADJet MSG #53, 03-16-2012 11:03 AM
      what body filler are you using between the rear fender and the lower quarter panels and the front upper and lower fenders?

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #54, 03-16-2012 11:29 AM
      GADjet......all seams are fiberglassed inside and out. Im useing duraglass filler over it. It has glass fibers in it for reinforcement.

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #55, 03-26-2012 12:40 PM
     


Door off and ready to glass the inside. Car mostly in primer now and the lines are lookin good



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #56, 03-26-2012 12:41 PM
     

Door gettin a layer of glass on the inside. This seams to be the easy'st part ! Nothin like glassin from the top ! It made such a big difference on the rigity of the door.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #57, 03-26-2012 12:43 PM
     
While i had the door off i figured id ad alittle to the door edge. The gaps seam so big around the doors for some reason. Figure 3/16 all the way around would be alittle nicer



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #58, 03-26-2012 12:44 PM
     
Door back on and the gap looks alot better. Also flushed the door to body gaps and did alittle more filling and sanding.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #59, 03-26-2012 12:47 PM
     
Pulled the nose off in preperation for Amida's 512. Anyday now.....................................



BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #60, 03-26-2012 04:40 PM
      I like the hood vent. Does it require cutting of the sheet metal (chassis)?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #61, 03-27-2012 09:51 AM
      BV. Hoods a 03 cobra hood , narrowed a few inches. Where it is is pretty much as far forward as you can go without cutting the "chassis" . I woulda wanted it about a 1" more rearward but didnt want to cut it. It seals real tight. Just have to finish the bottom of it.



2.5 MSG #62, 03-27-2012 12:18 PM
      Wow nice job, nice attention to detail, vision and craftsmanship!

redraif (redraif@yahoo.com) MSG #63, 03-28-2012 10:08 PM
      AMAZING WORK! Totally loving it. Nice attention to detail fixing the gaps!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #64, 03-29-2012 11:25 AM
     

Thanks Red ! Hears another "gap" that i hate to look at ! Ground down and ready to glass



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #65, 03-29-2012 11:27 AM
     
Layer of glass. The roof wasnt totally flat so with the use of the lift arm i applied alittle "love" to a high area. 3 layers of glass later its pretty solid



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #66, 03-29-2012 11:29 AM
     
Grinding down the high spots. Getting the feel for the new 1 piece look on the roof.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #67, 03-29-2012 11:30 AM
     

Ground down and rolled outside for a blow off of all the dust ! Voila !! Ready for a skim coat of filler



2.5 MSG #68, 03-29-2012 12:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:


Layer of glass. The roof wasnt totally flat so with the use of the lift arm i applied alittle "love" to a high area. 3 layers of glass later its pretty solid



Will that area you held down try to com up later and ruin your work?


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #69, 03-29-2012 01:50 PM
      2.5....... The area was just alittle high....didnt take much to level it out. A deep V groove and alot of glass reinforcement should do it. Im going to let the car settle for a year before paint. Anything changes / pops / moves can be fixed before paint.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #70, 03-29-2012 02:34 PM
     
Layer of Filler.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #71, 03-29-2012 02:35 PM
     
Sanded down



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #72, 03-29-2012 02:37 PM
     
Primered. Looks alot smoother without the line there.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #73, 03-29-2012 02:38 PM
     


Better shot of the roof.



FieroDev MSG #74, 03-29-2012 02:52 PM
      Man this is gonna be one smooth widebody, i like it

Dev


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #75, 03-29-2012 06:11 PM
     

Wow that looks hot !

Whodeanie had one of those he was considering putting on his choptop project, and i thought about it, but never got to really see what it would look like, boy it looks sharp !

I agree this one is going to be a good one.


2.5 MSG #76, 03-30-2012 11:02 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by Bozzie:

2.5....... The area was just alittle high....didnt take much to level it out. A deep V groove and alot of glass reinforcement should do it. Im going to let the car settle for a year before paint. Anything changes / pops / moves can be fixed before paint.



Good to know, it will be a work of art!


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #77, 04-04-2012 12:32 PM
      Good to hear that the box finally arrived. Come to think of it sending to a "park & ride" should've been a red flag.

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #78, 04-04-2012 05:01 PM
      Amida......the 512 nose arrived perfectly. When i did a search for greyhound where i picked was a terminal online but when i checked it out it turned into a park and ride and greyhound didnt upgrade there site as per. But.....Boxing is amazing and Greyhound did a good job with it....not like those UPS incidents the past fall !! LOL. Your quality is second to now and im MORE than happy with it. Pics to come !!



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #79, 04-04-2012 08:52 PM
     

Bozzie,

i think we are all excited to see your car with the nose !

Going to be awesome.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #80, 04-06-2012 02:26 PM
     
Working on the door seam.. Pretty much got it where i want it. 3/16 all the way .



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #81, 04-06-2012 02:28 PM
     
In primer now. Time to get rid of that drip edge !!! Smoother is better !! Thanks for all your input everybody. Seams to be a few widebody builds goin on right now and idea's are flyin !! My 512 nose is in a box and im almost ready to start the front.......drivin me NUTZ !!!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #82, 04-06-2012 02:30 PM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #83, 04-06-2012 02:32 PM
     

Filling in around the Drip edge gap.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #84, 04-06-2012 02:33 PM
     

Window in !!!! YEA !!! this side i pretty much DONE !!!



85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #85, 04-06-2012 08:52 PM
     
Nice job

What size of adapter did you get for the back wheels ?



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #86, 04-09-2012 01:34 PM
      85' .....Rear adaptors are 2 1/4". Place in Cali that Archie recommended. They didnt really wana do that size and had 2" in stock but i prefered alittle more...was worth it. Been chowin down hard on the 512 front. Pics to come



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #87, 04-18-2012 10:21 PM
     

More, more !!


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #88, 04-19-2012 03:47 PM
     

One interesting thing i did notice was that you molded the rockers into the hip addition, making it a one big piece unit instead of two separate pieces.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #89, 04-26-2012 03:42 PM
      Your car is makin me jealous !! Smoothin mine is takin FOREVER !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #90, 04-26-2012 03:45 PM
     
Box from Amida !!!!

Time to get goin !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #91, 04-26-2012 03:46 PM
     
His work is amazing and packing is perfect




Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #92, 04-27-2012 12:07 AM
      It's nice to see how the box looks after being tossed around from bus to bus.

Like the hood vent, I think I'll put one on my F6 Formula project.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #93, 04-27-2012 12:40 AM
      Sweet! I like tweaked Fiero's. Now get the nose on there so we all can



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #94, 04-27-2012 12:16 PM
      Amida.....the box was pretty much inivincable !! I acutually used the cardboard afterwords, it was still flat and no crunchs !!

Hey Curly....OMG ....nice to see you on here ! Your "tweeking" has rubbed off on me BIG time !! I think there should be a Fiero of Fame section for all the guys on here that has brought so much incentive to others.

RIck



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #95, 04-27-2012 12:19 PM
     
Quick fittment, VERY good fit actually. A nip and a tuck here and there and PRESTO !! With Archies wide fenders i wasnt sure how it would all come together but im liking it !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #96, 04-27-2012 12:21 PM
     
WIth the nose kinda on there i wanted a chin spoiler. Started glassin up the shape.

Glassed a few "squares" to become the wingletts.....




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #97, 04-27-2012 12:23 PM
     
My "helpers"



Wingletss on and shaped


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #98, 04-27-2012 12:25 PM
     
Think im gonna have to raise her a bit !!


Outside for a good once over before final glassin



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #99, 04-27-2012 12:26 PM
     

Time to SMOOTHHHHH it on over






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #100, 04-27-2012 12:28 PM
     
Fill and sand..................


SOmeones TIRED of waiting for the glass to dry !!!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #101, 04-27-2012 12:29 PM
     



Sand and sand and fill....................... GONE !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #102, 04-27-2012 12:30 PM
     

Time for some primer. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Attach grill and splitter ...........PResto !



Ayrow (ayrow@ayrow.com) MSG #103, 04-27-2012 12:31 PM
      This thread is absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for posting your progress. I wish I had the skills, space, and time to do all of what you are doing. It's fun watching it come together.
I'm not a big fan of the little lip and wings that you put under the nose, but the rest of the car is looking beautiful.

Keep up the great work and keep those pictures coming!




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #104, 04-27-2012 12:32 PM
     
Time to put some love into the rear......there's nothing like a perfect "A$$" and this one's gotta GO !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #105, 04-27-2012 12:45 PM
     
On the ground again. This thing spend more time in the air !!!


Outside with a Fello Fiero'r Man....im jealous.... he's DRIVING his !!! Mine hasnt left the parkin lot in 2years !!!


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #106, 04-27-2012 12:48 PM
     
Holy crap bozzie, That is awesome !!

That is exactly the type of chin spoiler i am doing !

Saw it on a lambo at a show a couple weeks ago.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #107, 04-27-2012 12:50 PM
      Hey Ayrow ! Thanks for your input. It all comes in time. I just dove into this after living my car thru the eyes of other tweekers on here. Cant wait to finally drive this thing but i really enjoy putting the time in on this. Ive had this car for 6yrs and it only has 32k origional miles !!



Bainreese MSG #108, 04-27-2012 01:37 PM
      Wonderfully inspirational thread! And I didn't realize someone who provided aftermarket body parts(Amida) lives just up the road!

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #109, 04-27-2012 03:39 PM
      Hey Exoticse ! Funny, i was googling chin spoilers and saw this style as well. Simple and makes the point. I showed my girlfriend the pic of your "hips" on your car and she got jealous as i was drooling all over it !! LOL



BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #110, 04-27-2012 06:23 PM
      Looking great! I really like the nose and the high mount spoiler!



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #111, 04-27-2012 09:29 PM
     

Bozzie, you mentioned changing it, so what are your plans for the rear bumper ??


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #112, 04-28-2012 12:23 PM
      Good job on the splitter. You'd better brace the lower lip really well...there will be many contacts with driveways.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #113, 05-08-2012 11:03 PM
     

Any progress on the rear ?


redraif (redraif@yahoo.com) MSG #114, 05-09-2012 10:35 PM
      Ok simply AMAZING! Man I wish you lived near me so I could watch and learn! Awesome... my hat is off to u!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #115, 05-10-2012 05:32 PM
      Thanks Guys for all your interest. Been real busy putting this rear together. My hat is off to Amida and everyone else doing a bumper from scratch !! ALOT of time and effort and putting things together, cutting them apart, liking them and hateing them. Hoping to post some pics up tomarrow.



jackcastro (jackcastro2000@hotmail.com) MSG #116, 05-15-2012 08:01 AM
      Body work is not one of my strengths. How do you cut fiberglass with so much precision? What kind of tool? Cut from the front or inside the bumper?
Amida does not seem to offer the option to cut out the holes for the lights on the bumper. At least he did not reply to my repeated question on this subject.
Also, does the bumper include the brackets used for reinforcing the bottom?
Thanks.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #117, 05-15-2012 10:00 AM
      Hey Jack. I wish i knew more about glassing but with time im getting more effecient !! LOL. If your talking about cutting the openings on Amida's bumper then this is how i do it. I used a Air saw. It has a small long blade about 3" that goes around corners easy. I got within 1/16 of a inch of the edge and then sanded the rest. I used a stick with sandpaper on it and a dowel with paper wrapped around it to get into the corners. Its REAL time consuming. Got to be carefull or you'll be adding glass and sanding again. I think i spent a good few hours doing it. I wish they were cut but it is what it is, overall, the quallity is amazing. The bumper includes no brackets. Im probably going to use aluminum to brace the bottom and then make a bottom panel out of ABS plastic reinforsed with fiberglass. Hope this helps.....let me know.

Rick



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #118, 05-17-2012 02:27 PM
     
Part one of the Bumper Reconstruction arrives !! This is gonna be a LONG project !


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #119, 05-17-2012 02:29 PM
     


Her it is ! Infinity G35 rear diffuser bumper. Its a far cry from a direct fit. To Tall, to thick, to curved, to short. Definatly not what i thought it was going to be. But its a good start......i think !! LOL


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #120, 05-17-2012 02:31 PM
     
1st step, cutting the Archie widebody bumper somewhat. Alittle here and there, hoping not to cut to much. Its easier to take away than add.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #121, 05-17-2012 02:33 PM
     
Then i cut the G35 bumper...this is whats left of it !!! Trial fitting the piece to one side. Its 4 1/4 " to short. WAY to curved !! At this point im thinkin....what did i get myself into !!! Got ALOT of respect for the custom guys here now !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #122, 05-17-2012 02:34 PM
     


Sides not looking to bad. Figured it may just look like something after all !! Boy you really gotta have perception at this point !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #123, 05-17-2012 02:36 PM
     


WIth the correct measurments i set a jig at 4 1/4" apart and started to glass the half's together.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #124, 05-17-2012 02:38 PM
     


Here it is. Jointed temperorally and test fit for height on the rear. I want it to be low like the Archie side rockers, but not to low !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #125, 05-17-2012 02:39 PM
     


Another view of the fit


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #126, 05-17-2012 02:41 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #127, 05-17-2012 02:43 PM
     


With the bumper at the right height i used mold fabric and stapled it to the car and bumper stretched tight to form the top. This will be glassed.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #128, 05-17-2012 02:44 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #129, 05-17-2012 02:45 PM
     


Glassed. Pretty rigid. Trying to get the idea of the shape here. Not so sure but its something to work with.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #130, 05-17-2012 02:46 PM
     
The sanding and shaping begins !! Now trying to make this thing straight !! LOL


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #131, 05-17-2012 02:48 PM
     


Now for glassing in the sides. Round for now tapering into the back.





MORE sanding !!!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #132, 05-17-2012 02:50 PM
     
Shaping again. Kinda happy with it so far. Thinking about the exhaust exits at this point. Rear mounted turbo in the works later so nows the time to think about it. There are dual cutouts on the bottom but im not feeling it. Think i spend just as much time eying this and thinking as glassing and sanding !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #133, 05-17-2012 02:52 PM
     


The side pieces from the bumper that i cut off initially i trimmed to fit on the sides again. I made a jig with a 4x4 and upright to position the panel where i wanted it and so i could just flip the jig and replicate it on the other side.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #134, 05-17-2012 02:57 PM
     


My thoughts are on the F 430 rear. Lots of pictures in front of me and im thinking of doing some more trimming





Cut a opening in. Im going to make a pocket here, maybe for the plate, and possible exhaust exit. Started filling in.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #135, 05-17-2012 02:59 PM
     
Taking shape, i just cant even think of adding up the hours , days and weeks picking away at this till all hours of the night. Its getting alittle fustrating and im alittle tired of it. Sometimes stepping away for awhile just to come back again hard !!!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #136, 05-17-2012 03:01 PM
     
Made a pocket out of fiberglass. Mounted the plate into it. This was a BIG job. !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #137, 05-17-2012 03:04 PM
     
Upon looking at the center lower section....i decided i didnt like it and it wasnt really going to work for what i wanted. SO........ZIP !! out it comes !! ALOT smoother i think. But added probably weeks to no building my own diffuser !! OOPS !!!



Made a back panel for the diffuser


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #138, 05-17-2012 03:06 PM
     
Framing and getting the location of the center part of the diffuser, not sure if the exhaust will exit here or on each side of the plate yet. Now about 4 week into this bumper.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #139, 05-17-2012 04:43 PM
      Wow !

That is A LOT of work !!

That is why i leave it to Archie and whodeanie hehehe, but for sure i definatly can appreciate your hard work and skills,..very impressive.

I like where you are going. I personally also liked the version (below) that you had before the last modification, but they all look good to me.



Keep pumping out the pics and keep us drooling.

Now i know for sure my rear is going to change to something more exotic. Thanks for the inspiration.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 05-17-2012).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #140, 05-17-2012 04:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:


Framing and getting the location of the center part of the diffuser, not sure if the exhaust will exit here or on each side of the plate yet. Now about 4 week into this bumper.


Nice. I can see were your going with this now. Good job and it's way better looking than using the G35 inner parts plus it matches the front.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #141, 05-17-2012 05:16 PM
      Some neat ideas here

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/059432.html

and here

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/061918.html

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 05-17-2012).]

BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #142, 05-17-2012 07:27 PM
      LOL Yeah the G35 way to round for our cars. I would of looked at a 300ZX or better yet, a 3KGT as a donor. Looking good though, good call on getting rid of all the crap in the lower center.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #143, 05-17-2012 07:31 PM
      I vote that this thread should be in the construction zone.

BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #144, 05-17-2012 08:12 PM
      LOL all full builds should be, but I agree!



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #145, 05-20-2012 12:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:


Framing and getting the location of the center part of the diffuser, not sure if the exhaust will exit here or on each side of the plate yet. Now about 4 week into this bumper.


A ton of work...I know. At some point you'll wonder if it wouldn't have been better to just start from scratch with a foam plug.

[This message has been edited by Amida (edited 05-20-2012).]

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #146, 05-29-2012 12:12 PM
     
Fresh outside summer pic




Cooper lights installed



Rear is coming along...SLOW but sure !!



85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #147, 05-29-2012 07:55 PM
      Wow !!!
That is a LOT of work...

a couple of questions:

How big are the rear tires ? they look nice

How come you decided to go with out a rear reinforcement bar ?

Why did you fiberglass the bumpers to the body ?

the reason I ask, is because I deal w/ auto accidents,
I would be afraid that if anything even minor happen,
It would be a lot more work to repair, specially on the rear w/out a reinforcement bar.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #148, 05-29-2012 10:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Why did you fiberglass the bumpers to the body ?

the reason I ask, is because I deal w/ auto accidents,
I would be afraid that if anything even minor happen,
It would be a lot more work to repair.


I thought the exact same thing when i saw that, granted it does look pretty good that way, but man even a minor mishap and you are in for some serious rework.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #149, 05-31-2012 09:54 AM
      The Rear tires are 255 35 18's on 9" wide wheels. I decided to bond all the seams together for a smooth look. I knew if something ever happened it might be alittle more work because of this but i think the body will spend more time in one piece than in a accident. If a accident happens then i'll deal with it. I built this car from the inside out so i know how to put it back together. Manufacutures make it easier for body guys for insuranse purposes but this is a one off car, not mass produced, by me anyway !! LOL. Im building this for me, not for anyone else and i'll spend the extra few hours on it if there is a bender to put it back rather than have hidious body lines everywhere. Course.....thats my opinion

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #150, 05-31-2012 11:00 AM
     

Hey bozzie the car looks great, and that extra detail of eliminating the lines just makes it pop that much more.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #151, 06-01-2012 10:13 AM
      Thanks Tony ! Have you taken yours for a ride at all ? Have you played around with the chin spoiler idea ? Its good Therapy



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #152, 06-02-2012 12:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Thanks Tony ! Have you taken yours for a ride at all ? Have you played around with the chin spoiler idea ? Its good Therapy


Sadly, i have not had any time at all for the car. My 5 week old daughter is taking every minute of time i have outside of work,...but i would not trade it for the world.

Typing and holding a fussy baby is even tricky ! For now i am living thru projects like yours to get my fix.

Can't wait to see your finished rear bumper.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 06-02-2012).]

Pete Matos MSG #153, 06-02-2012 12:18 AM
      Wow man this is really looking Kickass.... I applaud your abilities and willingness to cut stuff out and start over. I am sure you will wind up with something very cool here. It sure is looking good. Peace

Pete



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #154, 06-02-2012 01:32 PM
      Looking good at the rear.

kooljess (jess@jrirrigation.com) MSG #155, 06-02-2012 11:20 PM
      Man that's a lot of dedicated work on this car. It's going to look mighty awesome....it already does. Keep up the good work. Very nice.



mr_corean MSG #156, 06-30-2012 03:44 PM
      Any updates on this one?

My Username Is MSG #157, 07-01-2012 03:10 AM
      Great read, thanks for taking the time to post as many photos of your progress as you have- I'll take lots of photos over War and Peace any day.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #158, 07-12-2012 11:14 AM
     
bump.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #159, 08-12-2012 09:37 PM
     

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #160, 10-25-2012 12:36 PM
     

Fresh bump.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #161, 10-27-2012 11:46 AM
      Hello all ! Boy did the summer fly by and not much progress to the fiero. Now that things are slowing down ive started work again on her and will post some fresh pics soon.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #162, 01-17-2013 02:56 AM
     

Bump.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #163, 02-02-2013 01:15 AM
      back to work here abit. Decieded to lower the rear trunk lid center abit....1st step was the cut and shape




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #164, 02-02-2013 01:17 AM
      ruff look as of now



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #165, 02-02-2013 01:27 AM
      I had made some strips from fiberglass and cut to shape for glassing in .....here i check for fit before gettin dirty



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #166, 02-02-2013 01:31 AM
      fitting...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #167, 02-02-2013 01:35 AM
      grinded down and ready for glass



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #168, 02-02-2013 03:24 AM
     

Sweeeet !

Similar to the rottinchop car, but very, very nice.

Bozzie you are knocking it out of the park on this one, Keep it going !


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #169, 03-02-2013 11:29 AM
     

Bump.

Can't wait to see how this turns out.


F355spider (nixon@itexas.net) MSG #170, 03-02-2013 05:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:




Her it is ! Infinity G35 rear diffuser bumper. Its a far cry from a direct fit. To Tall, to thick, to curved, to short. Definatly not what i thought it was going to be. But its a good start......i think !! LOL


That rear bumper looks familiar. Nice work on the car.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #171, 04-20-2013 09:46 PM
      Rear Pic as of now. Lowered vent hatch and working on the engine conversion now.....pics to come !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #172, 04-20-2013 09:48 PM
      P.S.............whats it gonna take to move over to the construction zone ????

HELP



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #173, 04-21-2013 12:37 AM
     
A nomination,....done !


deloreanant MSG #174, 04-21-2013 11:45 AM
      It looks like everything from the nose back is one piece, save for the taillight panel, hood, and deck lid. How do you remove that if you need to? Besides carefully. I think it gives the car a great look without any seams, but I'd fear not being able to work on any part of my car if I did something like that. Keep up the great work. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

[This message has been edited by deloreanant (edited 04-21-2013).]

Ayrow (ayrow@ayrow.com) MSG #175, 04-21-2013 02:10 PM
      This might be my favorite thread on the forum.
Nice work.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #176, 04-21-2013 10:02 PM
     

Boz i am a biiiiiig wing guy, but looking at your project i am afraid the wing might just block that fabulous decklid work you have done.

If it were me i might consider some 5 inch wing stands. Then again i could be totally wrong and it just might be the angle of the pic.

P.S. Congrats on the construction zone !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #177, 04-22-2013 04:04 PM
      First off......BIG THUMBS UP to everyone and you know who you are, that made this goto the construction zone...i am just thrilled ! THANK YOU !!!

Bozzie



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #178, 04-22-2013 04:06 PM
      Exoticse.......ya know i love ya bro That is a very interesting thing to think about. The rear decklid is going thru MAJOR renovations and its just tuff to nail it. Def. gonna consider what your saying.....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #179, 04-22-2013 04:08 PM
      http://i252.photobucket.com...zziec/photodeck1.jpg

Ok....onward.....starting to glass in a lip spoiler to the loward decklid



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #180, 04-22-2013 04:09 PM
     




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #181, 04-22-2013 04:12 PM
     


now for more....the face and sides



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #182, 04-22-2013 04:15 PM
     


Rear shot of spoiler. Also notice i cut a "View" window in the scoop. Got this from Skitime i believe....another amazing build !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #183, 04-22-2013 04:17 PM
     


Glassed and ready for sanding



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #184, 04-22-2013 04:19 PM
     

Sanding begins and i used expansion foam to start the shape of the lights......waiting for drying time ...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #185, 04-22-2013 04:21 PM
     


Top view of foam light pods



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #186, 04-22-2013 04:25 PM
     


Sanding the light pods to shape. This is just a general shape and later on i'll finalize it.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #187, 04-22-2013 04:27 PM
     


Starting to look like something....its hard to see something and then make it happen....lots of trial and error here



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #188, 04-22-2013 04:30 PM
     


ok....gettin tired of glassing so i took a break and decided to drop the tank...........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #189, 04-22-2013 04:32 PM
     


one of the best parts of this car is the shape its in. 31K miles never in snow....this just made it to easy to take apart. dropped in a walbro 255 and put er/ back together



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #190, 04-22-2013 04:35 PM
     

back to glassing. Where the front "mini" style light was mounted i decided to incorporate it into a vent.....so cuttin away



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #191, 04-22-2013 04:37 PM
     


now on the drivers side i didnt like on the passenger side how the top of the vent was square so i made it rounded on top and i think it flows much better.......then i moved to the passenger side and added glass to it to create the same "curve"



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #192, 04-22-2013 04:41 PM
     


Finished vent. The marker light actually "bends" into the vent. I think its a pretty neet look



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #193, 04-22-2013 04:44 PM
     

I was really excited to finally put in the lights into the 512 bumper. What you dont see is the 9 hrs it took to get the fit right. Dont get me wrong, this is a great bumper. But the gaps around the lights i wasnt happy with and its much easier to fix them now. So walla !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #194, 04-22-2013 04:47 PM
     

ok...back to the rear again...now that i got some sanity back ! I wanted the valance to be curved so i got some 12" sonic tube and cut it to size. It creates a concave fit to the lower spoiler. I then glued wood to the inside to create depth to the mold....lots of tape, cutting and glueing to get it somewhat to shape.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #195, 04-22-2013 04:50 PM
     

More sonic tube cut to length and height taped to the car to make the shape..............



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #196, 04-22-2013 04:53 PM
     


More taping and cutting and the shape moving along



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #197, 04-22-2013 04:56 PM
     


gluing in the sides .........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #198, 04-22-2013 05:00 PM
     


complete....well as much as its gonna get !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #199, 04-22-2013 05:02 PM
     


Now that its got the shape i pulled it off the car. Now to make something out of this mold



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #200, 04-22-2013 05:09 PM
     


after pulling it out of the mold i glassed it to the car.....you'll also notice i cut the rear deck behind the light sockets. This will be glassed to the light pockets and the hatch will be seamed there.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #201, 04-22-2013 05:13 PM
     


Ok....spring is here and here is my labor of love. 3.8 crate engine. ZZP stage 3 turbo cam, ZZP aluminum heads, Stattama intake, Billet throttle body, ZZP long tube SS headers..sent out and jethot coated.....etc.......Tranny is a G6 6speed, Quaife differential thats been cyro'd. Archied 6sp install kit, aluminum flywheel and stage 3 clutch. Turbo is a Garret Gt35r liquid cooled BB.......Getting this to fit and work is another story. Harness Made by TImm and computer programed by Ryan at Sinister............



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #202, 04-22-2013 05:15 PM
     


Ok...gonna skip all the engine removal fun stuff....this is my cradle....it was in good shape so i just cleaned it up and gave it a few coats of epoxy paint.....any yes Exoticse....this is why i cant make it to daytona !!



Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #203, 04-22-2013 07:39 PM
      holy badass fiero! I love that you have common things in both body (firrari) and power (3.8 Turbo) but they are both done in rather unique ways. going to be amazing when it's done.

NoMoreRicers (wilson.kegler@gmail.com) MSG #204, 04-22-2013 08:00 PM
      Can't wait to see and hear it run!

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #205, 05-08-2013 09:43 AM
      http://i252.photobucket.com...ozziec/watertank.jpg


Custom made "daddys" water tank just came in...........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #206, 05-08-2013 10:02 AM
      <a href="http://s252.photobucket.com/user/bozziec/media/watertank.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/bozziec/watertank.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo watertank.jpg"/></a>



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #207, 05-08-2013 10:03 AM
      http://i252.photobucket.com...ozziec/watertank.jpg



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #208, 05-23-2013 03:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:




Finished vent. The marker light actually "bends" into the vent. I think its a pretty neet look



Boz did you ever think about making the vent a bit larger ? Sort of like this ?





or this ?

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 05-23-2013).]

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #209, 06-13-2013 05:53 PM
      Those are some amazing Vents...alittle big for my taste...but maybe after its all done i might review it again



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #210, 06-13-2013 05:59 PM
      Ok...build is moving along real nice , decided to work on the gas cap. So i just got a custom made one in and hear it is !
<a href="http://s252.photobucket.com/user/bozziec/media/gc2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/bozziec/gc2.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo gc2.jpg"/></a>



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #211, 06-13-2013 06:00 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #212, 06-13-2013 06:02 PM
      I tood a piece of 3/16 aluminum and made a trim ring to sandwich the fuel block in place .........heres the end result



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #213, 06-13-2013 06:04 PM
      when you remove the cap this is what the fill looks like



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #214, 06-13-2013 06:25 PM
      moving on to the wing. Needs some upfit. Decided to drop the sides by 1" .....hears a piece of fiberglass i made and bonded to the underside for shaping....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #215, 06-13-2013 06:28 PM
      Another shot of the extensions. You will notice the stands sit on 3/4 in blocks....hense the addition later



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #216, 06-13-2013 06:30 PM
      Filling and sanding to take shape...........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #217, 06-13-2013 06:31 PM
      Rear shot



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #218, 06-13-2013 06:34 PM
      Wingstand time......screwed in 1/4 20 threaded rods in




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #219, 06-13-2013 06:39 PM
      Mounted 1" foam blocks to it with adheisve and shaped it. Sanded the stands ready for glassing



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #220, 06-13-2013 06:42 PM
      Glassed



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #221, 06-13-2013 06:44 PM
      Upon looking at the stands i thought they needed to be more raked so i cut a template out of a paint stick and glassed it on



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #222, 06-13-2013 06:46 PM
      Glassed and 1st layer of filler to shape



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #223, 06-13-2013 06:47 PM
      2nd coat of filler and sanding



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #224, 06-13-2013 06:50 PM
      Shaped / primered and fitted......you can also notice the lip spoiler i bonded and shaped to the top of the wing for added presence......



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #225, 06-18-2013 09:57 PM
      Very nice.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #226, 06-19-2013 07:30 PM
      Thanks Amida....thats def. a compliment ! Moving onto the rear hatch engine window. I startet with a Piece of Safety glass tinted already. It was cut with aprox. size and radius to within a 1/2 inch of my precut opening.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #227, 06-19-2013 07:32 PM
      I laid the glass in after i protected it with masking tape on the edges. Its a good fit. I spaced it out to acount for the spacing on the glass, glue and mounting tab. Hear it is ready to glass in the mounting flange.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #228, 06-19-2013 07:34 PM
      Here it is with a 3" wide glass flange. Its plenty strong and thick with 3 layers of fiber. Then i just popped it out.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #229, 06-19-2013 07:37 PM
      After the glass is removed this is the opening for it with the new mounting flange. A ruff opening.




Then i trimmed it to 1/2 " all the way around.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #230, 06-19-2013 07:40 PM
      I then placed the glass in with a 1/16 tape wrapped around it to provide a nice fit without being to tight.



A layer of filler is applied.....sanded and reapplied and sanded



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #231, 06-19-2013 07:43 PM
      After sanding and checking for the fit i put it down in primer



This idea i got from Skitime's Build. What a great idea and thank you for the incentive !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #232, 07-08-2013 04:21 PM
      Diffuser time. I made "ribs" from 1/4" plexi. Cut a slot into the diffuser and bonded it in. Smoothing it out with 1/2 rounds.......



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #233, 07-08-2013 04:22 PM
      Another view



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #234, 07-08-2013 04:25 PM
      Sanded and Primed. More work to do on, going to add a stabilizer across the middle and secure with turnbuckles later. Also didnt like the single exhaust tips so i swapped in the C6 corvette tips .



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #235, 07-08-2013 08:23 PM
      Wow!!



Bob


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #236, 07-08-2013 08:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by RCR:

Wow!!



Bob


Double WOW !!

You nailed it Bozzie !


dajack761 (dajack761@gmail.com) MSG #237, 07-08-2013 09:45 PM
      That diffuser looks great. Well done!



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #238, 07-09-2013 12:03 PM
      Cool !

bkcamaro (bkcamaro@yahoo.com) MSG #239, 07-10-2013 02:57 AM
     

Sourmug MSG #240, 07-10-2013 03:11 PM
      Looks great! Nice job.

Nolan


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #241, 07-31-2013 01:15 PM
      Working on getting the tail lights straight. What i had done was just a close mock of what it was supposed to be but now its time to get them straight and true. First i routered out 2 templates out of wood for the shape i wanted and screwed them to the back.



You can see by the spacing that i need to fill with glass and sand a bunch !


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #242, 07-31-2013 01:21 PM
      Its definatly alittle off !! Dang my eyesight !



Taped off you can clearly see what needs to be done. Going to glass in the inside and fill in the outside and make some smooth curves




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #243, 07-31-2013 01:23 PM
      Messy job. Glassed and filled...real ruff





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #244, 07-31-2013 01:25 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #245, 07-31-2013 01:34 PM
      getting a look of how its coming.........




My helper prepairing to glass !




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #246, 07-31-2013 01:47 PM
      Sanding............



Filling in the inside



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #247, 07-31-2013 01:49 PM
      Taking shape



Decided to take a line diagnal to the corner on the outside taillight



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #248, 07-31-2013 01:50 PM
      Man... cant stop this girl !



The center line drawn and sanded to .



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #249, 07-31-2013 01:52 PM
      Working both sides to get them equal



Sanded / shaped and primered...............whew !!



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #250, 08-01-2013 06:48 AM
      Pretty cool...



Bob


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #251, 08-01-2013 09:28 AM
      When I come visit my folks I would love to swing through your area and come see your car in person. I love the work ou are doing!!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #252, 08-01-2013 11:35 AM
     
Boz any chance we can get some full side and angle shots ?

The car looks incredible.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #253, 08-02-2013 01:10 PM
      Johnny....my door is always open. Let me know for sure and Tony , i'll get some more pics up soon for you, as im watching your build now for more ideas !

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #254, 08-05-2013 07:08 PM
      Oil Cooler installed, very tight fit !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #255, 08-05-2013 07:09 PM
      LED, taillights installed....these things are BRIGHT !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #256, 08-05-2013 07:11 PM
     




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #257, 08-05-2013 07:12 PM
      Random after wash pics..........











Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #258, 08-05-2013 07:13 PM
     




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #259, 08-05-2013 07:16 PM
     

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #260, 08-06-2013 03:33 AM
     

Amazing !

I sure hope you are proud of your handiwork.


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #261, 08-06-2013 07:11 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Oil Cooler installed, very tight fit !



Everything looks great, Bozzie.

Question about the cooler....It looks like the one(s) I'm going to use out of a Cadillac. Is it?? Also, how did you mount it??



Bob


infinitewill MSG #262, 08-06-2013 11:02 AM
      Excellent work! I love the styling cues

Dr. W.



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #263, 08-06-2013 12:35 PM
      Looks like a lot of time has gone into it!

What LED tail lights are you using?


KVCFIERO MSG #264, 08-06-2013 02:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Looks like a lot of time has gone into it!

What LED tail lights are you using?


They look like the ones you get at the truck stops for the trailers.


nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #265, 08-06-2013 11:13 PM
      Did you buy an actual hood, or did you find similar vents? I have been looking, but only option so far was an entire hood. Thanks for the info!

 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Here is a pic of my hood. Its a mustang cobra hood idea i got from another PFF member....i believe his car was purple.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #266, 08-07-2013 09:39 AM
      Hey, night, the hood is a fiero hood. I bought a 04 mustang cobra hood and cut the center section out. Then i narrowed it to 1.5" between the vents and then cut and bonded it to the fiero hood. There a similar vents out there but i thought this one was the best, thou not the cheapest.



nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #267, 08-08-2013 08:40 PM
      As for the cobra vents being the best, I completely agree, I dont mind so much the cost of the hood, but shipping on top of it

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #268, 09-07-2013 10:24 PM
      After Contemplating the next "mod" , after eyeing the car for hours from every angle and wanting to do something with the rear windows i decided to add some " hips" , to bring in the rear alittle and apply alittle more shape to her body. 1st ...remove rear quarter windows and hesitate !






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #269, 09-07-2013 10:28 PM
      I eyed the side of the car alot. Drew some tape lines as to where to cut and give alittle swoop and flair....







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #270, 09-07-2013 10:30 PM
      Time to cut and never look back....god knows !!



After the cut i pulled it in 3" which cracked up alittle by the roof because of expansion, will glass that as well.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #271, 09-07-2013 10:32 PM
      Now to cut the lower quarter window edge and move that in.




Outside for a quick look before i cut the other side. The rear roof spoiler will be taken off and trimmed to fit the narrower roofline



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #272, 09-07-2013 10:34 PM
      quarter window moved in and the gap filled to lay the glass down.





BOOM !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #273, 09-07-2013 10:36 PM
     
ruff 1st sanding to shape



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #274, 09-07-2013 10:46 PM
      Rear view




in primer after alittle filling and sanding. Outside for a look and clean



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #275, 09-07-2013 10:50 PM
      Wash rinse and repeat to the other side. Took alittle longer because it had to be the same as the other side. I ended up triming off 1" off each side of the rear lid to accomadate it to open. I will add what i cut to the car to fill in the gaps. As for now i narrowed the roof spoiler and lowered it abit from the height it was last time. Was alittle to high and from the front it looked wierd. Now lower you can barely see it from the front and the side view looks swooping.




This is my friday night !! LOL


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #276, 09-08-2013 03:41 AM
      Nice tweek Bozzie !

I have been eyeing my car and was leaning again toward doing the exact same thing (more hip)..

I had specifically asked Dean to do it, but he was convinced it would not look good and did not do it.

Boz did you have to remove the clip and glass on the underside ??

BTW thanks for my new screensaver for the week !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 09-08-2013).]

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #277, 09-08-2013 10:33 PM
      Hey Exoticse ! , Glad you like it. I wasnt sure at first and i think i have only seen this mod done on chop tops. I actually really like it. I did not remove the rear clip to glass the inside. I glassed all around it and its plenty strong. I used 3 layers of matt on all bonds, and sometimes maybe more in places. Its prob a good thing Dean didnt do it cause you might not of got'n your beutiful ride back ! Your timing was perfect with bringing her home. There are more tweeking ideas in the mist and would love to see what you may do with it.

P.S. Think we might both be getting our wheels around the same time !!


Fiero Thomas (tom@fieronews.net) MSG #278, 09-08-2013 10:48 PM
      I will say that you have some MAD SKILLS



jb1 (james.brown.20107@gmail.com) MSG #279, 09-09-2013 12:10 AM
      Very nice work , great imagination...



iluvsd619 (luv6192000@yahoo.com) MSG #280, 09-10-2013 01:32 AM
      WOW! Very nice! Looks like something I wanted to do along time ago! Great taste!


iluvsd619 (luv6192000@yahoo.com) MSG #281, 09-10-2013 01:36 AM
      WOW! Very nice! Looks like something I wanted to do along time ago! Great taste!


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #282, 09-20-2013 11:34 AM
      Rick your car is turning out awesome.

I was looking at it and wondered how it would look with the top line at the rear curving down to make a "coke bottle effect".
Just sharing the photochop I made to see how it would look, as an option. Looks great the way you have it.





Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #283, 10-21-2013 09:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:





Are those H.I.D. bulbs?



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #284, 10-23-2013 09:53 AM
      Hey Amida !, Yes, its a HID kit. 8000K bulbs. What a difference, you could almost just use them for headlights. Ive been working on the front bumper sides lately , widening them to hide the tires. Pics to come.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #285, 10-24-2013 07:57 PM
      Ok.....bouncing all around here. Amida's bumper is amazing. With Archies +2 fenders the front tires stuck out i think alittle to much....so time to make it wider. 1st follow the countor and cut.








I had to move the lower fender back about 1" because it got "shorter" when i moved it out. Held it in place with straps.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #286, 10-24-2013 08:01 PM
      Pieces i cut out like a puzzle, just needed to be adjusted and then replaced.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #287, 10-24-2013 08:04 PM
      With trimming and straps, frankenstein comes together !



Definatly ALOT wider and hides the tire pretty good i think.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #288, 10-24-2013 08:07 PM
      Time to glass..............




Same deal on the drivers side...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #289, 10-24-2013 08:10 PM
     


With a cut off wheel in my hand i took it to the fender. Cut in this notch and moved it to the rear. This is going somewhere...just not sure yet.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #290, 10-24-2013 08:34 PM
      Filling and sanding.. I also removed the old vent in the lower front fender and glassed it back as well.







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #291, 10-24-2013 08:38 PM
      back onto the fender. got the rear piece glassed..





no real plans here, just wingin it. Figured id make the door caps flatten out at the fender so i ground it down



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #292, 10-24-2013 08:43 PM
      These are filler pieces i made out of glass. Its 1 layer of matting. Very flexable and i cut it to shape on the fenders.

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I skipped a few pics, dont know where they went but heres the piece in place, glassed and filled / primered to see



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #293, 10-24-2013 08:49 PM
      skipping a few pics, i added 3" to the bottom of the rear fender rearward. Also put in a "notch" at the top of the fender which kinda goes along with the rear. For now here it is.



in primer



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #294, 10-24-2013 08:54 PM
      OK., front vents are filled back in and ready to start marking the new vents.




Cut and 1st glass



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #295, 10-24-2013 08:59 PM
      one of the " filler" plates. 1 layer of matt. These go on the top and bottom inner. The bottom is angled up and the top is angled down just a bit.




Cut / installed and just held in place nice n snug



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #296, 10-24-2013 09:01 PM
      Glass the back....




Glass the front....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #297, 10-24-2013 09:21 PM
      In primer, i might curve the top forward edge, but for now this is it.






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #298, 10-24-2013 09:32 PM
      Hint of whats in store...... does this EVER END ???!!!




For now i figured i'd pull the rear quarter out another 1" or so.

Marked and cut



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #299, 10-24-2013 09:34 PM
      Pulled and chimmed






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #300, 10-24-2013 09:40 PM
      Glassed






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #301, 10-24-2013 09:45 PM
      Filled / sanded / primered. She's got some nice hips now, and a new body line






exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #302, 10-25-2013 02:32 AM
      Holy Crap !!

Man have you been busy ! I am so jealous of your fiberglass skills.

You cut and paste like you are working with paper.

Awesome stuff.

Now i have to go back and view a couple times to keep up with all the different tweeks, hehehe
You are making me reconsider some ideas i thought might be too complicated.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 10-25-2013).]

iluvsd619 (luv6192000@yahoo.com) MSG #303, 10-25-2013 02:44 AM
      Wow!

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #304, 10-25-2013 06:54 AM
     

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #305, 10-25-2013 06:59 AM
      Amazing stuff, Bozzie.





Bob


KOS MSG #306, 10-25-2013 09:06 AM
      I would like a step by step raw video (no editing to miss any steps) of how you do all of this...please and thanks lol



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #307, 10-26-2013 12:11 PM
      Thanks ALOT guys , your ALL my inspiration. Been busy , like addicted busy with this thing and then i step back for awhile and catch my sanity for a bit, plus check everybodys elses work out Im hoping this winter is my last sprint on this thing and will get it into paint then, thats the key. Thanks to all you guys, you know who you are.



Klasse_GT (fiero87@telia.com) MSG #308, 10-26-2013 04:08 PM
      I wish i have your skills. It looks so easy......

You also have a very good taste!

/Klasse


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #309, 10-27-2013 02:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Thanks ALOT guys , your ALL my inspiration. Been busy , like addicted busy with this thing and then i step back for awhile and catch my sanity for a bit, plus check everybodys elses work out Im hoping this winter is my last sprint on this thing and will get it into paint then, thats the key. Thanks to all you guys, you know who you are.



What color you going with ?


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #310, 10-30-2013 08:38 AM
      Tony, i dont know about you but picking a color is like asking a girl in a shoe store which one she likes ! I think ive been tossing and turning this delema since this project started. If i can get the car panels flat enought then id love to go back to black. If not then maybe white with black vents/ accents, or maybe a burnt orange ?? How about yours ??



KOS MSG #311, 10-30-2013 09:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

If i can get the car panels flat enought then id love to go back to black. If not then maybe white with black vents/ accents, or maybe a burnt orange ?? How about yours ??




Yup that is exactly what I was planning on doing with mine. pretty much word for word



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #312, 10-31-2013 05:39 PM
      That "hint" of the rear quarter glass NOW






With this mod, i will use the "original" glass and trim it to fit the new bend



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #313, 11-06-2013 04:30 PM
      Just picked up my winter project. 2000 Chevy Monte SS dash , cluster , door panels. I picked up the bcm as well and intend to make much of the info center work as well.






LornesGT MSG #314, 11-06-2013 06:48 PM
      Does this require use of a Monte Carlo bcm when using that dash?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #315, 11-07-2013 09:19 AM
      If you do this you really want to get the BCM that has been programmed to the same dash. Most inputs are hardwired but the outputs are data. Im going to sign up for alldata for the monte and download all the specs on the bcm / ecm, and how they relate. The cluster will be wired right back to the bcm as it was origionally and the inputs as well. Im thinking of running the door locks and windows thru it as well for there auto down features. Time will tell.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #316, 11-09-2013 07:58 PM
      Here we go, no looking back. 1st Step is to remove the dash, vents, electrical connections, get alittle familiar with how things are and work.




Upon measuring it the Monte dash is about 3" to long and 6" to deep, I cut the forward dash pad from under the dash extension and it fit pretty well. I also cut the dash in half down the center to get it sectioned in where the console is. Trial fit here



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #317, 11-09-2013 08:01 PM
      The Cluster trim is again about 2" to wide to center on the center console. I sectioned it to move it over and rebond.



Think i like it




2nd half of the dash pad drops in.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #318, 11-09-2013 08:06 PM
      Tinkering with a vent above the rear quarter and into the hip



Gonna go for it., marked my line...



Cut...




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #319, 11-09-2013 08:08 PM
      Put my temp template back up. Its a quicky with 2" round pvc for the curve. I think its to sharp so im going to redo it with 3" and see.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #320, 11-10-2013 12:13 AM
     

hey bozzie,

Something similar from SEMA 2013







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #321, 11-12-2013 12:57 PM
      Tony,

Thanks for those pics. I spent the weekend working on this and those pics really helped. Pics to come !

Boz



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #322, 11-12-2013 01:57 PM
     

Cool, you are welcome.

Can't wait for the pics !


IwannaIRM (swags33@cableone.net) MSG #323, 11-27-2013 06:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Tony,

Thanks for those pics. I spent the weekend working on this and those pics really helped. Pics to come !

Boz



Still waiting for updates and pics...what surprises did Tony's pictures hold inside?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #324, 12-07-2013 12:13 AM
      Bozzie,

i wish i had seen your work before i widened my wheels. i wanted to go 5" lip in the back, but settled for 4.5".

You made widening the body out further look very doable.

How wide are the front and rear lips on your new set of wheels ?

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 12-19-2013).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #325, 01-12-2014 02:39 PM
     

He is at it again ,..stay tuned !!

Some really cool things going on with this build, hopefully boz will update with the newest pics soon.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #326, 01-13-2014 06:20 PM
      Tony Tony Tony.......i want to know who your inside guy is !! Ok, been going crazy with this thing again. Its hard to believe that its been 2yrs already. Im hopin to finish this thing before it finish's me. To all you guys doing mod after mod, you know how it is , and for those about to rock......be prepaired !! Flashback'in abit to the rear inlets next to the quarter window. Thanks Tony for your pics and , ya, they kept me awake MANY nights !!



Toying around with PVC.... its just not working for me...........




Scrapped that idea and got a Safety cone....yes, those orange things. Glassed one over and cut it into pieces and sectioned it together..........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #327, 01-13-2014 06:23 PM
      Another shot., lining it up and checkin it a hundred times.........







Glassed....






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #328, 01-13-2014 06:25 PM
      Afterword, i pop'd it off and sanded it down. Wash rinse and repeat for the other side....




Test fit....







Thats about as far as i got before this came in the mail............




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #329, 01-13-2014 06:32 PM
      Bonspeed's GTB.....19x12 on the rear and 19x9 on the front.



Yes, there WIDE !!



Trial fit on the car....


Rear shot......Houston....we have a MAJOR problem !!







Look great from the side thou.

Upon talking to bonspeed and checking i noticed the offset was wrong on acount of there error. Talking to brad at bonspeed only got me further nowhere and it would take months to get these reset, considering i waited 3 months for these , they were DEFINTATLY NOT going back !!!



KOS MSG #330, 01-13-2014 06:32 PM
      new rims?

Let me know what you are going to do with the old ones



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #331, 01-13-2014 06:35 PM
      You can see from the pics the wheels stick out about 1.5 " ....Way to much. I had just gotten done glassin and finishing in the air ducts and this is just dissapointing. No choice now.......


Put some rubber on these babys....




This is the difference in the front tires.....old 18"....and the new 255 35 19






and the rear..


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #332, 01-13-2014 06:38 PM
      My Problem.............




Hey KOS.... sorry bro but im keepin the old ones just in case these get bent. Seen it happen to many times on here. I do have spacers if you need them.
Upon taking a DEEP breathe........i did the unthinkable in my book...






KOS MSG #333, 01-13-2014 06:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Hey KOS.... sorry bro but im keepin the old ones just in case these get bent. Seen it happen to many times on here. I do have spacers if you need them.




I dont think you are thinking straight and need to get rid of them PM me what spacers you have.

Thanks



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #334, 01-13-2014 06:43 PM
      Now with it off i can repositon it where it needs to be. I settled with 1.25 inchs out in the rear and 1" out in the front of the wheel. It centers the fender more evenly on the wheel. This widebody just got WIDER !!







From the rear shot you can see i cut the air inlet off, but im hoping to salvage it later ...we'll see..



LornesGT MSG #335, 01-13-2014 06:47 PM
      I like the cone idea, how did you keep it stable, they seem like the flex easily.

By the way,

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #336, 01-13-2014 07:18 PM
      Aligned.....time to get this baby back together.




Started to glass the lower inlet.




added alittle strip to blend to rocker.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #337, 01-13-2014 07:21 PM
      Hey Lornes.... yes, your right, they are very flexable. Cut with a holesaw some circles in different sizes and inserted it into the cone. I also suspended it so it would not collapse on itself..... and Thanks



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #338, 01-13-2014 07:23 PM
      Here, after curing, i tapered it to the rocker




The rear side, clamped into posistion, ready to sand and glass




The inlet i cut , i glassed back in where i wanted it. I can get my hand in the inlet now so i can glass it back together Talk about saving alot of time making these things again !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #339, 01-13-2014 07:25 PM
      Top side




Glassed



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #340, 01-13-2014 07:30 PM
      12" Wide wheel fits in nicely now.





Starting to smooth it out.





As for the top of the lower inlet i was drawing a blank on how to procede. I talked to Archie and he's supplying a set of door caps that i can glass in and bring forward to about the half way part of the door. Then i will remove the rest of the origionally door cap and flatten it out . More to come, for now im on the drivers side.....UNGHHHHHH !!!!!!


LornesGT MSG #341, 01-13-2014 07:55 PM
      Some of your pics are upside down.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #342, 01-13-2014 08:12 PM
      Bozzie you are completely nuts !! i mean that totally in a good way !

Awesome work, awesome problem solving, and big balls for cutting your baby apart and putting it back together like a pro !

i am going to have to do a litle bit of that as well i think.

Madcurl gave me some good advice a long time ago, ...always try to build around the wheels otherwise you run the risk of having to redo some work.

In both our cases i think we could only get our hands on wheels later in the build,.....oh well i guess that is the way the fiberglass crumbles !

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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #343, 01-14-2014 07:07 AM
      Wow!!



Now for a technical question... What offset did they give you, and how far does the wheel surface sit off of the hub (just for future reference).



Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #344, 01-14-2014 09:27 AM
      RCR, Thanks. The Rears are 12" wide so overall they are just shy of 13". The offset they gave me is 6.75" on the inside of the rear wheel. I had ordered 7.5" . Woulda been close but would've fit. The larger lip doesnt hurt either ! The fronts are 9" wide, overall just shy of 10" with a backspace of 6.5/8" With Archies wider front fenders and wideing Amida's 512 bumper it fits nicely.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #345, 01-14-2014 09:32 AM
      Man Tony.....this is just hurtin me but its coming back together. Thanks for the kudo's. I saw how your wheels did the same thing , and also on that yellow widebody, but he already painted his car ! Were both in the same chute and its not a fun ride. Curl gave some great advice and probably thru the same experience , and we can both see why. Never woulda thought about that as a issue, but this is the last time im doing this ! God knows if i were to build another it would be different but i doubt that will happen.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #346, 01-27-2014 12:58 PM
      Archies Door caps came in so its back to work. I cut and trimmed them and moved them back 6.5 " from the jamb and held it in place with tape.




Back to glassing !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #347, 01-27-2014 01:00 PM
      Alittle glass and fill......damn....reminds me of doing this the first time !!









Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #348, 01-27-2014 01:04 PM
      More filling and sanding....takes awhile. Took it off the lift to get a good look at it.






Going to pull her outside tomarrow for a good wash. This dust is a killer ! Its a good thing shes mostly fiberglass



LornesGT MSG #349, 01-27-2014 07:39 PM
      Sweet! Hope to one day see this in person, but chances are that won't happen.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #350, 01-27-2014 09:04 PM
     

Ridiculously cool !!!!


Bloozberry MSG #351, 01-27-2014 09:53 PM
      That thing is looking really bada$$, Bozzie. Once the leg work to widen it is done, I'm sure you'll look back and be glad you didn't return the wheels. Just be sure to leave enough room for your wheels to tuck into those fenders when you hit a bump!

druddle (dustinruddle@gmail.com) MSG #352, 01-30-2014 10:10 PM
      Man that's a bad wip , I have a lot of respect for the body work you've done. I've got a little body work experience
but not close enough to try that. What front bumper did you use?



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #353, 02-01-2014 10:07 PM
      Thanks druddle. A lot of my work is all trial and lots of error.

nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #354, 02-16-2014 03:35 PM
      Wow, I cant believe you had to chop it up again, and re-glass; the idea alone made me cringe thinking of the extra labor and glass-work
I cant tell you how impressed I am with your work, absolutely amazing.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #355, 03-13-2014 06:59 PM
      Allrighty Then....its been awhile so here's some updates




Got a new set of Lotus LED tailights, the Euro ones... time to make em' fit !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #356, 03-13-2014 07:01 PM
      Mocking them up , trying to figure out the " look "









Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #357, 03-13-2014 07:03 PM
      Drawing lines, and cutting alittle at a time,



BIG HOLE !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #358, 03-13-2014 07:05 PM
     


I made some flat Glass panels to fit and cut the holes for the light mounts, setting them in for a fit








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #359, 03-13-2014 07:07 PM
      Gettin there.







Back to glassin.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #360, 03-13-2014 07:09 PM
      Glassing the sides.....this is just SLOW !!





Glassin the inside and bottom edges






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #361, 03-13-2014 07:11 PM
      Ruffed out.




Taking a break on it and working on cleaning up the air inlets since there 1.5 " wider..



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #362, 03-13-2014 07:14 PM
      Smoothed out....




Taking a break on the rear and cleaning up the air inlets...getting some primer back on er/





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #363, 03-13-2014 07:15 PM
     


Takin it outside for a well needed wash



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #364, 03-13-2014 07:18 PM
     


My favorite pic so far...






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #365, 03-13-2014 07:40 PM
      Started building a template for a front splitter. 2 Layers of MDF , routerd and cut to fit.







LornesGT MSG #366, 03-13-2014 07:42 PM
      What color or colors are you considering? I agree on the favorite picture.

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #367, 03-13-2014 07:43 PM
      Glassed the bottom first.




Flipped it over and after appling a non stick coating....
\




i Glassed the top



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #368, 03-13-2014 07:45 PM
      after much sanding..... a tril fit




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #369, 03-13-2014 07:55 PM
      LornesGT..... im REALLY hoping to do er' back in black like she was, its just a matter of getting it as straight as possible. Its pretty good now but when its all back together i'll have block sand the heck out of it to make it right for black. If not then im thinkin white.



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #370, 03-14-2014 05:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

after much sanding..... a tril fit






Bozzie: Will you be making a mold of the splitter, or leaving the MDF in the part?

BTW, it's been a very inspiring build. Thank you.

Bob



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #371, 03-15-2014 08:43 AM
      Hey Bob. The piece was taken out of the MDF mold. Im keeping the MDF part incase i need to make another one. I really appreciate your input. Looking forward to watching yours come together as well .

Boz



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #372, 03-15-2014 08:50 AM
      Mounted the splitter to the bumper for a fittment.




You can see the slits i cut in the splitter for LED running lights




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zmcdonal MSG #373, 03-15-2014 06:30 PM
      I like the splitter, would that have any negative effects on the cooling system though since it's closed off at the bottom? The only air coming through would be from the grill, instead of pulling some from underneath as well.

Awesome craftsmanship, I've been keeping a close eye on your progress. Any chance you would be willing to make another splitter to sell? I recently purchased one of Amida's 512 bumpers myself haven't got it on the car yet though.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #374, 03-15-2014 09:30 PM
      ZMC. That's a good question about cooling issues. I actually used a fan and some smoke to see the effects of where the air goes. The splitter design eliminates a lot of turbulence under the car below the radiator. It is much smoother flow and there's a 4" gap between the lower radiator and the splitter bottom plate. Any excess air gets bypassed smoothly. Having a extractor vent on the hood gets the air out quickly. It's a cobra vent that I opened up a little more. Issues were more getting hot air out them cooler air in. I gonna extend the lower pan to just past the front crossmember to the gas tank eventually. Congrats on your bumper. Very well made and the fit is very good. I would love to make you a splitter but I modified the 512 nose wider on each side to cover more of the wheel when looking at if from the front to work better with Archie's wider fenders. I don't have the original shape so it would be impossible to make one to fit yours... Sorry. Would love to see any pics of your car !

Boz



85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #375, 03-15-2014 09:51 PM
      You have been working hard on your project
I like the splitter

Did you measure how far it sits from the ground ?

Any chance you might bring it to Daytona ?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #376, 03-16-2014 12:59 AM
     

Sick !!!!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #377, 03-23-2014 08:38 PM
      85lamb, thank you. I did measure it and im going to have to raise the front about 1/2" to help alittle. Its low, but i like it that way. I WISH i was going to daytona for multiple reasons ! Im gonna put my sights on next year, She should be lookin pretty good by then, and on the road.

Tony, thanks man, i wish i was goin down south, and i could finally see your ride for real. Someday.....

In the meantime , lots of sanding and filling, straightening, stuff you would never see. But...... i got to mount the Lotus lights.............




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #378, 03-23-2014 08:39 PM
     





exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #379, 03-27-2014 03:46 PM
     

Not sure how i missed these last rear shots, but they look INCREDIBLE !


hercimer01 MSG #380, 03-28-2014 04:44 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:
Starting to smooth it out.







Just curious for learning sake.
What brand of filler is that.
How thick can it be built up?



355Fiero MSG #381, 03-28-2014 12:23 PM
      Those tail lights and insets look so much better than the originals you were working on in my opinion. Well done on the build. Car looks amazing.

Cheers
Don

 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #382, 03-29-2014 08:37 AM
      Snoopy. The filler is Duraglass. Its a body filler with fiberglass hairs in it to strengthen it. Drys like a rock. I use it on seams and for filling in. I try not to go more than a 1/8 to a 1/4 in some spots but i guess you could go alot thicker if your using it to make a mold.

Don, i hear ya on that and thank you. I just gotta stop changing my mind so i can finally drive this thing.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #383, 03-29-2014 08:42 AM
      Getting the door panel fitted....




Door panel had to be shortened by about 6" and the height lowered by about 4" I made a pocket in the rear for the seat belt to have easier access. Door release was on the inside of the door so i moved it to the outside and rebent it to length. Lock lever just had to be shortened.



KOS MSG #384, 03-29-2014 08:55 AM
      Gotta say bozzie i really admire your patience on this build. Having the skills is one thing but the patience is a whole different level. So many little things i see you do that adds weeks to your build each time you go after something. Nicely done.



nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #385, 03-30-2014 06:47 PM
      Very nice, I was going to swap out my Ferrari lights for these Lotus leds, before I decided to go with a different look. Again good call on the lights, its always nice to be one of a kind!

 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #386, 04-24-2014 02:11 PM
      Working on the door panels again. Made a template to mount a 8" sub in the door.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #387, 04-24-2014 02:12 PM
      alot of pieces to make fit !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #388, 04-24-2014 02:14 PM
     


Both sides mocked up and ready to glass




Wrapped up and glass'n is next



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #389, 04-24-2014 02:16 PM
      Pod glass'd and fitting it to the door. Filling in the gaps.



Figure i'd dabble in my last big mod for the year. 96 sebring windshield.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #390, 04-24-2014 02:18 PM
      The windshield is quite a bit bigger. Its real close at the top. The sides are close except down at the bottom. It extends about 7" out



I had to cut a section of fender out to get access to the bottom corners.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #391, 04-24-2014 02:21 PM
      Fiberglassed a template and put into place to check




Gonna have to cut the hood now.....ALOT !!




Where the wipers were



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #392, 04-24-2014 02:24 PM
      Hood trimmed



Took her outside and masked the fender back on for a look










I also got the Daytime lights mounted into the splitter




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #393, 04-24-2014 02:26 PM
      I think its a good look. The hood is Wicked SHORT now !!



Installed some grill material into the cavity between the lights.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #394, 04-24-2014 02:31 PM
      Bonded the Template to the car.



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #395, 04-24-2014 03:47 PM
      It's damned wicked, Bozzie.

Bob


Bloozberry MSG #396, 04-24-2014 07:19 PM
      Lookin' good Bozzie.

If you're looking for ideas on how to solve the wiper dilemma with that extended windshield, Yarmouth Fiero has worked out one solution in his build thread. Also, what's your plan for the quarter window area? Cutting down a set of fastback windows or going with something a little wilder?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #397, 04-24-2014 11:37 PM
     

i don' t know what i am going to do when you run out of mods,...i am addicted !


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #398, 04-28-2014 09:02 PM
      Thank RCR and Tony ! Blooze, good tip on the wiper. Thats a BIG help. Your answer to the Quarter windows in the pics to come .



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #399, 04-28-2014 09:04 PM
      Made the front package tray for against the windshield. The Monte dash will abut this.






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #400, 04-28-2014 09:06 PM
      Also cleaned up the opening for the quarter window. Shaped to fit



Made a fiberglass template for the hood





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #401, 04-28-2014 09:08 PM
      Got my paint sticks out again.. Used them to space the cowl from the windshield. These things are Really handy.






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #402, 04-28-2014 09:11 PM
      While i glassed the cowl i bonded the Quarter windows to the car. I had to cut them to fit the new opening. I taped both sides when i cut them and used a fine air saw blade. No problems and they fit pretty good.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #403, 04-28-2014 09:12 PM
      Glassed.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #404, 04-28-2014 09:14 PM
      You can see the curve in this pic. Also i used a marker to mark the new windshield line on it. I will cut this so it lines up better with the black part of the windshield




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #405, 04-28-2014 09:15 PM
      After much sanding and a little filling its taking shape




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #406, 04-28-2014 09:18 PM
      Had to take her outside and hose her down.. What a mess. Heres the general pic of where shes at. Enough for today. Next is to start molding the fenders back on and getting them to look right with the windshield. Im taking her to Carlisle this year do or die !!!



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #407, 04-29-2014 06:59 AM
      Have you set the windshield yet, or are you waiting to do the dash filler panel first??

Bob



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #408, 04-30-2014 09:40 AM
      Hey Bob. The windshield is just sitting there. Its so nice to be able to just lift it off and do work to the dash. Im going to finialize the dash and get it together first. I was thinking about that actually and before the fenders get put back on the windshiled needs to be bonded because its just under the fender. Then the fenders get glassed back on. Thats the day i finally get a Plate on this sucker !!



jediperk MSG #409, 05-18-2014 07:24 AM
     

This build thread is incredible. You have some serious skills AND Patience


mitchjl22 (mitchjl22@gmail.com) MSG #410, 05-19-2014 12:46 AM
     



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #411, 05-29-2014 02:24 PM
     

Bozzie any videos yet ??


Dennis LaGrua (dlagrua@comcast.net) MSG #412, 06-14-2014 11:36 PM
      Excellent design and workmanship. That's going to be one beautiful custom car when everything is in place. What I do not understand is how you we able to join fiberglass to the urethane rear quarter panels.



OverKill MSG #413, 06-15-2014 09:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Excellent design and workmanship. That's going to be one beautiful custom car when everything is in place. What I do not understand is how you we able to join fiberglass to the urethane rear quarter panels.



I believe the quarter panels he is using are fiberglass parts that come with the widebody and the only urethane left is the door skins.
I have seen it done and seems to work out and if I'm correct all of the mad arch widebodies need the fiberglass door caps glassed into the urethane doors. I may be wrong they might use some sort of two part to bond them together.



Boogaloo MSG #414, 06-15-2014 11:10 AM
      One of the most surefire way to do this is grind the spot down and use rivets to hold the parts together this will form a permanent bond then glass it over then use a coat of filler to even it oui.

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #415, 07-09-2014 12:07 AM
      Bump, missing the progress reports.

Joe


2.5 MSG #416, 07-09-2014 11:53 AM
      Amazing.
I love how you design and adapt on the fly.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #417, 07-10-2014 11:41 PM
      Thanks to all the replys. Been super busy but more updates coming soon.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #418, 09-17-2014 05:46 PM
     

Time for some MAJOR updates
More work on the windshield / filling n glassing



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #419, 09-17-2014 05:50 PM
     


Just a quick shot of the rear at the end of a night



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #420, 09-17-2014 05:52 PM
     

Flush Mount latchs i will use on the hood and rear hatch



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #421, 09-17-2014 05:53 PM
     

I mounted the stud into the car and popped a hole thru. Traced the latch for where to cut...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #422, 09-17-2014 05:55 PM
     

hole cut and latched down....overall a good fit. Lockable and it holds it well



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #423, 09-17-2014 05:56 PM
     

Here you can see how the latch works, going thru the pin when you press it down. Its pretty cool ! Repeat for the other side.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #424, 09-17-2014 05:59 PM
     

Back to the dash. WIth the windshield out...a must.... working on the dashpad. Shortened it about 3" and just filling in with liquid plastic which remains flexable so it wont break or crack when i take it out or put it in. Fit and finish is the time consuming part. You can see the forward dash piece against the windshield... tweeters will be mounted into this as well as the photo cell for the auto lights and security LED.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #425, 09-17-2014 06:00 PM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #426, 09-17-2014 06:02 PM
     

Interior shot. The Trim bezel is shortend aprox 3" as well. I had to notch it for the tilt wheel lever. Filling and sanding... in and out....over and over.....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #427, 09-17-2014 06:03 PM
     

dash pad work....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #428, 09-17-2014 06:04 PM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #429, 09-17-2014 06:05 PM
     


Trial fitting things. Primered the forward dash pad.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #430, 09-17-2014 06:24 PM
     

Taped off the kick panels for a mould of the floor. Going to put 5 1/2 " speakers down here.........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #431, 09-17-2014 06:25 PM
     

and passenger side



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #432, 09-17-2014 06:26 PM
     

Glassed. Rear part ready



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #433, 09-17-2014 06:27 PM
     

Tweeters mounted in Forward Cowl



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #434, 09-17-2014 06:29 PM
     

Another Test fit of dash area. Coming together. Filling in the gaps alittle at a time. Theres alot to consider. Gaps top and bottom and along the A pillers...have to make sure once it is upholstered they can all be installed and removed and still look good..



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #435, 09-17-2014 06:30 PM
     

Interior shot....coming together



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #436, 09-17-2014 06:32 PM
     


A Pillars trimmed and textered



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #437, 09-17-2014 06:33 PM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #438, 09-17-2014 06:34 PM
     




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #439, 09-17-2014 06:36 PM
     

Here you can see the kick panels coming together for the speakers. Also the hole cut for the Push To Start interface. Also the dash opening for the IPAD Mini and the heater controles remounted below



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #440, 09-17-2014 06:38 PM
     

Installed a Removable Steering wheel hub. Makes getting in and out ALOT easier especially working on the interior. I shoulda done this first !! This car also has a working BCM from the monte carlo. Including the functions for the door locks , dome light, auto headlights, switchs, etc. Push to start uses a transponder key like the new cars , proximity sensing for auto unlock as you get close to the car. Amazing system.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #441, 09-17-2014 06:43 PM
     

Grand Prix sensors.....LED alarm lights and Photocell for daytime runners and auto headlights..



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #442, 09-17-2014 06:44 PM
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Placement for the photocell etc..



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #443, 09-17-2014 06:45 PM
     

time to cut................



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #444, 09-17-2014 06:46 PM
     

The shifter surround needed a upgrade so i made a fiberglass one. Its solid and mounts the boot and switchs well



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #445, 09-17-2014 06:47 PM
     


all the pieces.................



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #446, 09-17-2014 06:49 PM
     


More plastic filling in around the dash pieces.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #447, 09-17-2014 06:50 PM
     


Battery finally had its last volt so i put in a gell cell battery. Fits nice



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #448, 09-17-2014 06:51 PM
     

Outside for a well needed wash and break.....deep breathe !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #449, 09-17-2014 06:52 PM
     

testing the door panels and other things................



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #450, 09-17-2014 06:53 PM
     

Shot of the engine. This thing was dirty beyond belief with all the dust !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #451, 09-17-2014 06:56 PM
     

Little exhaust work. Wanted them out the upper middle on each side. Wrapped for safety !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #452, 09-17-2014 06:57 PM
     

Here you get the idea.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #453, 09-17-2014 06:58 PM
     


This was a happy day for me. Putting the fenders back together for real. Windshield is next...end is insight



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #454, 09-17-2014 06:59 PM
     

Not easy getting the inside of this but i did. Looking like something finally



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #455, 09-17-2014 07:01 PM
     

Months later its hard to believe it would of come to this. What a huge mod ....no wipers yet....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #456, 09-17-2014 07:02 PM
     


Kick panel done. You can see that the hood release and the trunk release is gone from the lower panel.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #457, 09-17-2014 07:03 PM
     

fenders back on and ready for primer. Outside again for a cleaning



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #458, 09-17-2014 07:04 PM
     


Finally time to uphulster the dash pad. Painted the defroster vent black. Ready and DONE !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #459, 09-17-2014 07:07 PM
     


Door panels ready to install. 8" midbass mounts to door



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #460, 09-17-2014 07:09 PM
     


Moving onto the cluster. Cut the backside out of the factory and bonded a plastic sheet to it. Cut holes out for gauges..



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #461, 09-17-2014 07:10 PM
     

Final test fitment of my Ipad Mini before paint...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #462, 09-17-2014 07:13 PM
     

Speed hut gauges are in. These things are amazing. Programable high and low with light as well as a 3 step led rev limiter shift light....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #463, 09-17-2014 07:14 PM
     

I wet sanded most of the body and hosed it off.....back in the bay again.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #464, 09-17-2014 07:16 PM
     


Gauges mounted in the bezel and wiring begins...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #465, 09-17-2014 07:17 PM
     


Looking good....sorry its upsidown !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #466, 09-17-2014 07:19 PM
     

Most of the interior is together. The sub box i made earlier wouldnt fit because of the kick pannels so masked off the floor and time to make a mould



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #467, 09-17-2014 07:20 PM
     


Windshield is installed !!! Finish wet sanding the body for primer....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #468, 09-17-2014 07:22 PM
     


I wanted to bring some color into the interior so i painted the trim rings of all the speakers red.........



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #469, 09-17-2014 07:23 PM
     


trim rings mounted...the doors and kicks and sub



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #470, 09-17-2014 07:25 PM
     


Masked off for some fresh smooth primer



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #471, 09-17-2014 07:26 PM
     


3 coats of build primer



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #472, 09-17-2014 07:27 PM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #473, 09-17-2014 07:29 PM
     


Decklid....you can see the latchs here as well



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #474, 09-17-2014 07:30 PM
     


Taking the paper off



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #475, 09-17-2014 07:31 PM
     


You cant tell because the garage is closed....its actually around 10 pm at night ....the night before i leave for carlisle. Just a few more thing to assemble.....long night here.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #476, 09-17-2014 07:32 PM
     


Outside....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #477, 09-17-2014 07:33 PM
     



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #478, 09-17-2014 07:36 PM
     


Ready for the trailer



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #479, 09-17-2014 07:38 PM
     


On the way to carlisle


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #480, 09-17-2014 07:39 PM
     


630 AM Carlisle



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #481, 09-17-2014 07:40 PM
     


Alot of nice cars here. great show



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #482, 09-17-2014 07:46 PM
     

Last pic as she is with Ms. Connecitcut I have put on about 1800 miles on her. She runs great , pulls hard to 150 easy....just run out of room. Now she is back in the shop again for some more mods this winter. Pics to come as i have already started the carnage !! Just so everyone knows i have extended my services here to work on other fieros. 3800 swaps, custom fiberglass work, tranny swaps, to basic upgrades / clutchs etc. Any questions please dont hesitate to ask or PM me.



davylong86 MSG #483, 09-17-2014 10:00 PM
      Bozzie you are a true artist! That car you made is at the top of the elite fieros on the globe.Do you have your paint scheme figured out? Im sure its going to be awesome

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #484, 09-18-2014 05:40 AM
     
Outstanding work Bozzie !

If you were closer my car would be at your shop like yesterday !!

Sucks.


bonaduce (dbarnett@nycap.rr.com) MSG #485, 09-18-2014 10:55 AM
      absolutely amazing transformation, you have been blessed by the fiberglass gods.

dan


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #486, 09-20-2014 12:11 PM
      Thanks Davy for your complements ! Im REALLY hoping to get some more mods done this winter and get the body straight enough for either Black or Porche Red......Still Dreaming



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #487, 09-20-2014 12:12 PM
      Hey Tony ! I wish we were closer as well, for many reasons. We need some more widebodys up here in New England !! Would love to play with your car buddy !!

Boz



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #488, 09-20-2014 12:14 PM
      Dan.....thanks for the complements ! Heres the next mod .................



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #489, 09-20-2014 12:18 PM
     

Back in the shop.....her home ! Ive been contemplating the next mod and have decided since the clutch is slipping that i have some time before next summer to do this.....a few pics



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #490, 09-20-2014 12:20 PM
     

Im taking as many pics as possible because i like the lines of her but with the next mod things are going to change abit so i can reference these pics.....might need some insight later in the build



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #491, 09-20-2014 12:22 PM
     


This is the most important pic. As the next mod is a 3" cradle stretch. Actucally 3.25" stretch. Going to cut the body back off at the inlet scoup and move it rearward. The C pillar will be extended to the rear as it is now..............



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #492, 09-20-2014 12:26 PM
     


Hoping to keep these lines. Move the Fuel inlet up to the Sailpanel area and install the liquid to air exchanger in the lower air scoup.....



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #493, 09-20-2014 12:28 PM
     


And so it begins. Cut along inside of lower air intake. This will be moved back the stretch....up the side and C Pillar.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #494, 09-20-2014 12:30 PM
     


After removing a few bolts holding the sides and back on .....off she comes in one piece. Its good to have it off as later i will flip it over and clean up the inside and do some changes.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #495, 09-20-2014 12:33 PM
     

Here are my 1/4" brackets with the centers at 3.25" apart. I will slide one end over the factory 88' shaft therefore keeping the cradle centered and moved back evenly.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #496, 09-20-2014 12:38 PM
     

THeres a bunch of things to make room for as you slide the cradle back. I had already redrilled the struts rearward 3.25" using the strut plates as a template and using the rearmost stud as the front stud for the mount. Just about all the lines cleared the stretch. The rear brace between the struts needs to be trimmed for the low mount alternator to pop thru...using ZZP headers it just slipped right under as i already had the trunk removed. Here is the brackets welded into place at the level the cradle was before. Once I get everything into place i will drop the cradle and brace it and finish welding the extensions.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #497, 09-20-2014 12:40 PM
     

Stretched...............



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #498, 09-20-2014 12:48 PM
     


Here you can see where i trimmed the brace between the Strut mounts.. I also cut the frame from there rearward as i will build a new frame extension later. I also flipped the turbo up and clocked it so i can get the inlet and outlet on the drivers side. I also welded in a reinforcement on the rear frame for the rear cradle mounting. This will be bolted in with 2 bolts per side one i know the cradle is straight side to side. Because of the stretch it put the tranny back into the lower frame rail. I had to make room origionally for the F40 but because the lower frame angles inward it needs to be notched as it is now touching the frame.



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #499, 09-21-2014 07:53 AM
      I gotta get back in the garage...



Bob


Yarmouth Fiero (im_gman@hotmail.com) MSG #500, 09-21-2014 09:25 AM
      Ah yes......nothing says fun like a garage, a Fiero and a reciprocating saw.

I am currious about this cut. Is there a reason for it?



Boogaloo MSG #501, 09-21-2014 11:23 AM
      Curiosity got the better of me Bozzie, but wouldn't it be safer if at that cut and the top you had boxed it in with square tubing instead of those 1/4 " piece of steel ,those will not hold the back end?.

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #502, 10-04-2014 11:05 PM
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Making a mount for the heat exchanger


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #503, 10-04-2014 11:09 PM
      Ok... That pic didn't post ... Trying to do this from my iPad ! Hey Bob... I totally get that statement and it gave me a smile as I feel the same after a hiatus ! Yarmouth ..... That hole is for the turbo piping to get to the intake .... Get some pics up soon

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #504, 10-04-2014 11:14 PM
      Boog ... I appreciate your input . I think it's pretty strong as the 1/4 is way thicker than the metal it is welded to. I'm going to drop the cradle and reinforce everything once it's mocked up. I built a monster truck a while back and everything was so thick... Heavy and strong and way overkill. It would be so easy to just load this car up with unneeded weight and support and go overboard so I'm trying not to switch to that hat . Once it's done let me know what you think.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #505, 10-06-2014 02:53 PM
      WIth the stretch theres not room for the heat exchanger in the lover vent. Making a bracket



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #506, 10-06-2014 02:55 PM
     


I had to trim about 5" off the inlet to "bend" around the frame area. Mocking it up to be glassed here



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #507, 10-06-2014 02:57 PM
      Alittle glass to hold it and the makeing of the "bottom" longer



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #508, 10-06-2014 03:25 PM
      Moved the PCV catch to the passenger side....bracket



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #509, 10-06-2014 03:26 PM
      Welded a plate to the old strut hole. Filled in the strut stud holes as well. Grinding to do later



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #510, 10-06-2014 03:28 PM
      Put the rear clip back up for a check. Here it is pretty much lined up. Plenty of room for the heat exchanger on the drivers side and bigger oil cooler on the passenger side. The Fuel filler will be moved up to the C pillars later.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #511, 10-06-2014 03:29 PM
      Passenger strut filled and welded



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #512, 10-06-2014 03:32 PM
      Time to fool with the front fenders a bit. The wheels stuck out just a pinch and i wanted to add alittle flare to the fender. With the car lowered another 1/2 " i have to move the lip up and out. I cut the upper lip out and tilted it out to give it a flare



Back to the sticks ..... i crazy glued it in so i can glass it



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #513, 10-06-2014 03:35 PM
      You can see the little flare here



The Front edge is even with the wheel well....the back edged is 3/4 " up. This gives it a "forward" lift to the flare. Im going to glass the front half then cut the middle and move the edge back down flush with the rear



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #514, 10-06-2014 03:38 PM
      Front half ready...




Skipping a few steps here...alittle dirty for pics ! Tape line is a 4" flare to the fender. Filling and sanding to the line.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #515, 10-06-2014 03:40 PM
      Ruffed out ....






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #516, 10-06-2014 03:43 PM
      Finished glass'n n sanding the drivers inlet for now. When the rear comes back on i'll meld the too





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #517, 10-06-2014 03:46 PM
      Passenger sides turn



Glassed



Boogaloo MSG #518, 10-06-2014 04:15 PM
      Very interesting Bozzie .

ITALGT MSG #519, 10-06-2014 06:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Boogaloo:

Very interesting Bozzie .


Ummmm, yeah... X2!

Very interesting approach with the short frame stretch... I'm looking forward to seeing how much it affects the car's overall looks when it's completed. Just a little increase in the Fiero's wheelbase goes a long ways, aesthetically speaking. I think your body modifications are quite unique too... definitely diggin' it. Can't wait to see what else is up your sleeve... what a great build thread you have here!

Awesome work, keep on rollin'!

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KOS MSG #520, 10-07-2014 08:46 AM
      Bozzie

You are doing some awesome stuff for sure! Great attention to detail. If you werent so far away my car would be sitting in your shop right now to be next in line!



LZeppelin513 (bjamestate@gmail.com) MSG #521, 10-09-2014 01:17 AM
      Amazing stuff! I love following your build. Your skills are unreal!

I've done very little fiberglass work and have a noob question. Why do you lay down the tape line down, such as in the fender work pic a few posts up? Thanks

edit: I just wanted to add; the Sebring windshield mod is so cool and really adds to the look. I would love to do that to a Fiero one day if I ever get enough experience to pull it off.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #522, 10-09-2014 10:19 AM
      Thanks Boog and Italgt. The stretch is probably going to warrent some more body mods to make it look right. Your absolutly right about it doesnt take much to really change the look. Alittle goes a LONG way on a little car. The C pillars will be the most noticalbe difference in the angle and some changes in the quarters are in order as well as scrunching the rear alittle and lowering the taillights in there positions.....For now its getting the cradle aligned straight and getting a alignment so the rear will be square. More coming !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #523, 10-09-2014 10:21 AM
      Dan....Thanks again. I see your car is looking real sweet ! Would love to have it in my hands to TWEEK Whenever you wanna ship it up !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #524, 10-09-2014 10:30 AM
      Zepp.........Glad your here and Thanks ! As for the tape line...good question. When theres different body lines intersecting i put a tape line where they intersect. Its hard to see the lines without a tape line or a marker drawn on it. Then when your glassing or filling or sanding you sand to the line. When your done with one side , put the tape line or drawn line down for the other side and go to that line. This way you assure that the body line will be crisp. Afterwords i usually hand sand the line lightly to round over. The line on the fender is 4" from the lip. It makes a nice "flare" for the fender. Doing this also makes it easier to match the other side. Hope that helps ! As for the windshield...its my favorite mod so far. Love the fiero look but the more i get away from it the more i want to get away from it !!



355Fiero MSG #525, 10-09-2014 01:17 PM
      Bozzie;

The stretch will certainly make the rear quarter look a bit more sleek and fit the overall look better. I always felt the stock rear quarter on the Fieros is a few inches short especially when adding different front clip looks to the car. The new quarter will really help with the flow back there.

Looking forward to more updates.

Cheers
Don


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #526, 10-10-2014 12:09 AM
     
Boz,

Curious,..what kind of reactions and comments have you recieved from non-fiero people when you take the car out ??


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #527, 10-10-2014 09:28 PM
      Hey Tony. Comments I get are ones of confusion and couriosity . I love to take her out at night and cruise the highways. I have to say that 80% of the time I find someome worth while to play with. Most recently was a Porsche 911 turbo for which I passed hard getting onto a freeway. It was a good run and we got off the same exit. At the light we were side by side and agreed it was a fun run to 143 and back . He said " just what is that "? And I replied its a Alchelmy GTR.... A one off . He smiled and said that is just to cool. No matter where it goes it turns heads. People come up to it and ask questions. I actually get more attention hanging around non fiero people because it is so far from one. It's a satisfying feeling that makes me go for more mods... More power and more confusing looks from people . The only fiero tell tail is the center console and mirrors which are in the plans as well. Everything else has been modded in some way .... Even modded from a mod . The Fiero is old enough to be unique in its stock form as newer generations have no idea and modified I think to a point puts it in a class all it's own even from itself. More to come.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #528, 10-21-2014 05:08 PM
      Shot of intercooler with reformed intake



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #529, 10-21-2014 05:11 PM
      Been thinking awhile about this.....and decided to go this route. With the bigger rims and tires there is quite a bit of back feed to the steering wheel when you hit bumps or ruts. Not a comforatable feeling. So heres the start of the next modd within mods !


Power steering pump from a 03 MR2




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #530, 10-21-2014 05:13 PM
      Using different sized threaded rods I mocked up the pump in the drivers rear quarter. With the frame cut out theres a nice place to put it. Later I will reinforce the frame and gig out a rear section to hold up the rear clip...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #531, 10-21-2014 05:14 PM
      I suspended it about 1" off the rail. Some cross bars keep it solid




After I tacked it in I removed the pump to do so more welding....




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #532, 10-21-2014 05:17 PM
      Most of the welding is done now. I'll clean it up after I drop the cradle later. Mocked up with the intake tubes



Coming togerther. Next is the lines and electrical. The rack will be later ...prob in the spring. I just want to get everything in place now to start putting the rear back together.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #533, 10-21-2014 05:21 PM
      Lower lateral relocation kit and Guru's 5 speed shifter parts and cables ordered for the F40. The 4 sp shifter and cables seem alitlle sloppy to me and the 5sp shifter is tighter. Also the mounts to the transmission are a more solid clamp verses the factory clip hold down. Once these are in it will be time to drop the cradle to notch the frame rail for the transmission as it now touches it after the stretch. Then a alignment can be done and the I can then start with the body again. Lots of mods planed for the body, side skirts reworked, C Pillars reworked, rear height lowered , rear air ducts reworked and functional to the turbo...etc.....



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #534, 10-25-2014 07:49 PM
     



Bob

[This message has been edited by RCR (edited 10-25-2014).]

kennn (kbrooksarchitect@cox.net) MSG #535, 10-26-2014 12:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Been thinking awhile about this.....and decided to go this route. With the bigger rims and tires there is quite a bit of back feed to the steering wheel when you hit bumps or ruts. Not a comforatable feeling. So heres the start of the next modd within mods !


Power steering pump from a 03 MR2





Bozzie, nice project. Thanks for being willing to share.

I'm interested in going the electro-hydraulic power steering route. What is required with regard to all but the rack? I've seen separate ECMs for sale, for example. Are those separate from the pump itself or are they integral? In other words, does one need both? If so, how are they integrated into our ECMs? And I'm assuming that compatibility with a GM (Corvette, Camaro, Firebird) rack is functional; what do you think?

Ken



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #536, 10-26-2014 02:46 PM
      RCR...thanks !. Ken. From what I here , those that have done power steering have seldom regretted it. If your doing bigger / wider tires and or rims I think your a prime candidate. When I drove my car stock ...eons ago it was fine and I had no complaints... besides the feedback to the wheel at times and adding a absorber will usually make it harder to steer. Bigger tires / rims ...those that modify....I think should all have PS.... for multiple reasons. The EHPS Pump from a MR2 in the 2000 to 2005 yrs are the best to use. There simplified to the point where can bus and data bus is not used. It works off of speed sense for variable assist. The pump comes with the ECU attached to it. 3 mounting points in a triangle make it easy to mount it. Resavoir is attached as well so its a compact lightweight solution and easily available. I was going to ad a pulley style gm pump to my engine but room is tight, don't want to power rob it and hate the thought of more engine clutter. If you go this route check the archives for the pump., Theres a link to the wiring diagram .. .which is wicked simple. If you put the pump in the rear like I did the speed sence wire is right there. Then its just the rack and lines. I will detail this in my build as I go...just might be awhile.



kennn (kbrooksarchitect@cox.net) MSG #537, 10-26-2014 11:24 PM
      Thanks, Bozzie. I'll keep tuned in for both your build and the EHPS info.

Ken



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #538, 10-27-2014 04:17 PM
      Waiting for some parts here and not feeling like stopping so another modd on the table that I have been thinking about is a 1 piece tilt nose......so....without further adou.....I put tape down on the body and hood to mark where they meet. Then I took the hood off and all the hardware and hinges to the fenders and hood etc.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #539, 10-27-2014 04:20 PM
      Then put the hood back on. Lined the marks back up. Some area's were high and some were low so paintsticks or cement blocks did the trick.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #540, 10-27-2014 04:21 PM
      I ground down some sections first that were the right fit. Got some glass ready and leveled it out



1st down



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #541, 10-27-2014 04:23 PM
      When this is dry i'll finish the rest the same way.




Then I cleaned it up a bit and got the rest ready to go.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #542, 10-27-2014 04:24 PM
      Ready to glass





Solid now !!





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #543, 10-27-2014 04:27 PM
      Heres a shot of the frame I built for the hinge out of 1/4 " x 2 " I X braced it and its real solid.





The hinge point is as low and forward as possible to allow the hood to open as much as possible and when I put the diffuser back on it wont drop to much. I know its low but that's the way it is




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #544, 10-27-2014 04:28 PM
      Ok....cut the fender on each side at the body line. You can see the hinge brackets sticking out... they will be cut soon. You wont see them with the diffuser.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #545, 10-27-2014 04:30 PM
      Here we go ! Picking up on the hood from the windshield side I slid it off the front... sliding across the hinge brackets and gently to the floor .....WOW this is going to be REAL east to work on now !




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #546, 10-27-2014 04:32 PM
      Later on i'll flip the front clip and cut off all the mounts, glass the inside and make the front hinge mount. It will be made out of aluminum and glassed to the front forward bumper cover.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #547, 10-27-2014 04:34 PM
      Time to reinforce the hinge brackets. There welded to the front X member so the rear is solid. Just need to strengthin the front area.





I made these 2 brackets out of 1/4 plate. They will bolt to the bumper brace and then be welded to the new bracket..




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #548, 10-27-2014 04:35 PM
      Bolted up and welded level.



Primered




355Fiero MSG #549, 10-27-2014 05:10 PM
      Bozzie;

Are you going to add your steel bumpers back in somehow or some other method of front and rear crash protection? I see the rear end is pretty much wide open after the front trunk firewall so just wonderin'

Cheers
Don


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #550, 10-27-2014 07:53 PM
      Hey Don. Good question. I see on other builds the reinstall of these " crash bars". From my perspective everything I've done is on the outside of this and if a accident occurs then it's already probably way more damage then I would think this brace would save me from. I'm betting more on my insurance buying me a new corvette if this happened. I'm definatly not building this again ! So.... NOPE



Bloozberry MSG #551, 10-27-2014 08:24 PM
      Never mind.

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Car-Lo MSG #552, 10-27-2014 08:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Ok....cut the fender on each side at the body line. You can see the hinge brackets sticking out... they will be cut soon. You wont see them with the diffuser.






There's alway a SURPRISE very nice flipper front end




jb1 (james.brown.20107@gmail.com) MSG #553, 10-28-2014 02:56 AM
      man your car looks great , awesome work!!!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #554, 11-05-2014 07:30 PM
      Carlo....good to see you here. Your car is such a inspiration to so much that I do on mine. I really appreciate what you do and your design. On to more modds here / problems.... The rear is lowered a lot and the lower arms are on a bad angle. Thanks to FieroGuru I got his relocation kit and today was the day to straighten this thing out !

Just how bad ????





alittle off !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #555, 11-05-2014 07:35 PM
      Jb1.....thanks buddy. I appreciate that. Really ! Got the car in the air again and took off the rear tires and unbolted the lower arms....




I had a shot of the Guru kit but I cant find it. I have to say that the quality is just great. Service was prompt and Im happy and sad to see that he's busy with other work at the moment. He got my order out asap and with this I got his 5sp shifter for the F40 along with the lockout and the cables and mounts for the tranny. I will put these on later as I have other mods first. The lower link relocation is perfect for lowered cars. It puts the links more even to the ground and at a much better angle. Installing it was a breeze and I was really impressed at how snug these fit to the strut mount. Its a tight fit and I thought it wasn't going to go but it just popped in and aligned tight. There is just no play in it and I cant wait to see how much better she tracks in the spring. Thanks Paul for a great product and service and looking forward to seeing what else you bring to our community !




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #556, 11-05-2014 07:37 PM
      Heres the car back on the ground with my little helpers....Much Better !!





Before....



after.....





Awesome !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #557, 11-05-2014 07:47 PM
      As this build progresses and the deeper I get into this car the more things I want to do while its in this state of "nakedness" . The 3.25" cradle stretch is progressing and with the rockers now removed I decided to tighten up the frame as with the power I have I can feel the chassis "creek" abit. Looking at the frame I just decided to keep on going and now im going to do a 4" chassis stretch. Across the back sides of the seats i'll cut the car in half and section it 4" . I also want to run square box tubing down the sides and up the C pillar and attach it to the rear frame section as well as the roof panel. Really want to tighten this thing up. I'll move the door jambs forward 4" as well later on. Heres the start of it as I take the interior apart / seats / carpet folded back / headliner / interior C trim / rear window and rear outside roof panel......etc.


Window out....




Seats / rear panel / carpets etc....











The drivers coolant tube is long enough it seams so I just disconnected the mounts to it to allow it to "slide" Passenger tube I cut just behind the cabin. The tank I loosened up and left in the car. AC lines I cut and will lengthen as well as the heater core lines. Clutch line I cut as well as the rear brake line as I will replace these with a new 1 piece unit later. The E brake seames long enough to stretch for now. Wiring on the center hump above the fuel tank on the inside look long enough with alittle messaging and the Vaccum tube will just pop out of the rear bulkhead as I pull it apart...... more to come



ghost187x MSG #558, 11-10-2014 07:46 PM
      What interior is that?? And wow...

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #559, 11-12-2014 11:17 AM
      Hey Ghost....its a interior from a 2000 monte carlo. It took abit to make it fit. Thanks for "WOW"

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #560, 11-12-2014 11:20 AM
      Getting the car level and off the floor for the cut.





level is KEY !







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #561, 11-12-2014 11:24 AM
      With is level and straight I measured out and made the cut. Afterwords I pulled the car apart 4" and welded some braces in to hold for now.







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #562, 11-12-2014 11:28 AM
      Even braced the car is VERY flexable and unsturdy. Care must be made to keep it solid till its braced. I had to jack the center when I cut the roof. Its hard to believe what the roof actually does to strengthen the car.





Here the roof is cut and I cut a 1" notch into the B pillar for a slight rake to the roof line. Guess im a in the chop top club now....just a baby thou




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #563, 11-12-2014 11:30 AM
      Another pic of the 1" "CHOP"




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #564, 11-12-2014 11:32 AM
      As it sits....ready to build a new side frame.




1st I cut the door jamb out from the top of the B pillar down to the bottom rail. I will use this again later in the build


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #565, 11-12-2014 11:34 AM
      Then I trimmed the rest of it for the addition of the new 2x3 Frame section. I also cut the rear frame section out from the strut towers as these will be replaced as well with 1 long piece.



Starting with a 23' section I started to cut the frame out


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #566, 11-12-2014 11:37 AM
      Here you can see the rear frame out and a piece of the new 2x3 section .





I Trial fit the frame on the rear section. Just mocked up the door jamb to check.




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #567, 11-12-2014 04:00 PM
      You are family of Car-Lo ?

ghost187x MSG #568, 11-12-2014 05:53 PM
      What interior is that?? And wow...

355Fiero MSG #569, 11-13-2014 12:49 PM
      Bozzie;

My apologies if you already answered this. I looked back a few pages and could not find this discussion but I am sure you have already stated why you are doing what you are doing.

Why did you lengthen the cockpit area vs. the engine bay? Height restrictions or looking for more cockpit area vs. just the wheelbase stretch? Just curious.

Thanks
Don


Car-Lo MSG #570, 11-13-2014 01:53 PM
      WOW, talk about SURPRISES this is the BIG ONE there are still after shocks all the way up the west coast to Vancouver great work Bozzie

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #571, 11-16-2014 12:08 AM
      Fie Ro..............LOL. Car Lo is definatly my mentor !

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #572, 11-16-2014 12:09 AM
      Ghost.............THANKS !!! and its out of a 2000 Monte Carlo....with a lot of fitment

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #573, 11-16-2014 12:13 AM
      Hey Don....never a problem. I did a 3.25" cradle stretch first. Then while I had it apart I was just looking at it one day and figured if I didn't do the chassis stretch it would be a LONG way back to this point to do it. Cradle stretch basically to extend the wheelbase and get some more weight on the front end. I also wanted alittle more room in the engine compartment and the 3.25 " make a big difference. The Chassis stretch of 4" was mostly because I am basing my build now on the 512 wheelbase and its correct now. Also I wanted alittle more rake to the roofline and the extra room is just a bonus. Thanks for the question !

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #574, 11-16-2014 12:15 AM
      Car-Lo... thanks man.....I really look up to what your doing there. Yes its a big step. But winter is setting in here so time is all I have ! Keep the builds going !! One day East and West coast is going to have to get together

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #575, 11-16-2014 12:18 AM
      Another shot of the rear frame rail





mocking up the frame





and tack welded




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #576, 11-16-2014 12:20 AM
      All cleaned up and ready for the new frame





welded in and working on the B pillar




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #577, 11-16-2014 12:22 AM
      on the ground.... SOLID !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #578, 11-16-2014 12:33 AM
      Removed the C Pillar and speaker mount




Here I opened up in front of the intercooler to expose the lower frame which I'll be connecting to the new frame later


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #579, 11-16-2014 12:36 AM
      TIme to get the passenger side done





Triple checking the level




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #580, 11-16-2014 12:37 AM
      Tacked in place




finishing the welding on the frame




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #581, 11-16-2014 12:38 AM
      Cleaned up and ready to mount the new frame section




welded up some center supports to the lower window frame



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #582, 11-16-2014 12:40 AM
      passenger side frame welded in and working on matching C pillar




Here I connected the lower frame to the new frame section.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #583, 11-18-2014 04:58 PM
      Moving on to getting the roof squared away and the B and C pillars as well as the new hatchback




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #584, 11-18-2014 05:00 PM
      another shot of the rear roof




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #585, 11-18-2014 05:01 PM
      Back on the ground for a bit. getting more and more solid. Next up it to tie the front lower frame to the front door support and add a lower frame brace..










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #586, 11-18-2014 05:04 PM
      All for the day.....
cleaned up some .... contemplating the new rear hatch area. Also thinking of reworking the body and rear fenders a bit.




Tucked away till next time




davylong86 MSG #587, 11-18-2014 05:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Car-Lo... thanks man.....I really look up to what your doing there. Yes its a big step. But winter is setting in here so time is all I have ! Keep the builds going !! One day East and West coast is going to have to get together

That is a event I would go too. Let that meeting be at SEMA with MadCurl and Troy&Lisa and the Fiero's just might take the show!

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #588, 12-12-2014 01:47 PM
      Time to mind the gap....




New piece welded in and seam sealed....




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #589, 12-12-2014 01:49 PM
      Working on the roofline.............






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #590, 12-12-2014 03:18 PM
      Notching the inside for room on the passenger side to connect the lower frame to the upper frame vertical support




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #591, 12-12-2014 03:21 PM
      Finally got the door jamb pillar back in and welded. Door is super solid now and it closes better than factory.







Primered
Welded to the frame with sheetmetal and sealed..

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #592, 12-12-2014 03:24 PM
      Put in Vertical supports for where the window will now go.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #593, 12-12-2014 03:25 PM
      End pieces installed for rear window sides.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #594, 12-12-2014 03:26 PM
      Rear shot with rear side window filler panels.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #595, 12-12-2014 03:28 PM
      Passenger door jamb installed and sealed. Filler panel made for side extension and sealed. Also hinges welded in for the future hatchback.


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #596, 12-12-2014 03:33 PM
      Taking a break on metal work. Made some flat panels for the side window area.



Pieces trimmed and cut to shape.



1st layer of glass



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #597, 12-12-2014 03:35 PM
      After it dried I took it off and glassed the inside and traced out the window. You can also see here the door jamb area and extension tin is in and welded and sealed.



I put the lower rocker panel back up just to see what it looks like now. Im going to have just just toss this and make a new one from scratch later.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #598, 12-12-2014 06:16 PM
      Got the other side matched and held up for now.




Needed more room so I tapered the rear frame rail in and down.




you can see the difference now just how much it makes and leaves room for the rear fender to be wider. Both rear inner sails you can see here with the hinges on the roof hanging....waiting ...



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #599, 12-12-2014 06:19 PM
      Widebody door cap doesn't cut it anymore so off it comes. Looks so different now !



With the lower effects removed again....for the last time its time to start making new ones..



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #600, 12-12-2014 06:22 PM
      Starting with the inlets I used flat panels I made out of 2 layers of glass. 2 more will be added later to make it stiff but for now there real flexable and pretty easy to shape. I glassed these to each other and the door. The door normally tapers in or round in at the bottom but these will be cut down straight later.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #601, 12-12-2014 06:25 PM
      Next is the new upper door cap. This hides the window when its in the down position. I hate the glass sticking out when its down. This piece give a little curve upward to the B pillar and then even with the window and then down and in at the rear frame. The "Hips" and Rear Fenders will attach to this later and mounts will be made to secure this to the frame.




Glassed to the door and then to the rear window frames going back. After I get much of this on and straight i'll cut the door opening straight down and things will line up nice


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #602, 12-12-2014 06:27 PM
      All for now. Time to duplicate the passenger side .



Next is the Door caps to replace the widebody ones.



Squishyxout (squishyxout@gmail.com) MSG #603, 12-14-2014 09:03 AM
      Almost broke my rule about cars, you're not allowed to cry until it's done.

It looked so amazing, and I don't believe I caught the reason you're extending the chassis?

Nevertheless, I LOVE what you're doing, and I wish I had the ability to customize my SE, but it's hard enough just getting it to run.


Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #604, 12-16-2014 12:59 PM
      Good god this thing is badass.

Stubby79 MSG #605, 12-17-2014 10:50 AM
      WTH is going on in here? I don't recall anything too crazy going on in here...oy. Yer nuts. The good kind of nuts!

Wow. You get it put together and a couple months later, you tear it apart again. The journey, not the destination?

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motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #606, 12-17-2014 08:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Stubby79:

WTH is going on in here?


Yeah, I hadn't looked in for a while, and BOOM the car is blown up... I thought I had issues with "mission creep", should this build be renamed Off the rails??? Stay tuned folks, a good thread just got great.

Joe


davylong86 MSG #607, 04-10-2015 01:19 AM
      Bozzie, you still out there? Hope everything is going good and just wanted too bump up one of my favorite builds.

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Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #608, 04-12-2015 11:49 AM
      This project keeps evolving or Morphing. Nice work.

pardegt1 MSG #609, 04-20-2015 06:42 PM
      Is thread a build thread for your interior project? It looks awesome so I searched but could not find it. Thanks.

Car-Lo MSG #610, 04-21-2015 02:34 AM
      I noticed some tremors last night the big one should hit soon

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #611, 04-22-2015 05:51 PM
      Hello all, and thanks for all the nice feedbacks ! Ive been kicking ass on this thing thru the winter and really trying to bring it road worthy soon.....kinda just like last year at this same time !!! Lots of changes , re changes, going backwords and now finally moving forward with a plan that works. It really isn't easy building something from pretty much scratch, and making it pleasing to the eye. My formula is off a Koenig 512 TR. As you've seen, the wheelbase has been stretched 7.25". For now as I keep moving onto this project I will start where I left off in November and try to bring this up to the present as quick as possible as there are ALOT of pics left to post.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #612, 04-22-2015 05:53 PM
     


Heres the plan for how the sides will form. Im just playing around abit here to get the look



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #613, 04-22-2015 05:55 PM
     







Trying to get the lines somehow in order. A lot of trial and retrial here



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #614, 04-22-2015 06:00 PM
      The nose is to short for the look.



Took the widebody fender and extended it 4" as well as put a bend in it at the inlet area. This is the mock up stage







moving onto the roof I took the roof part and laid it down to extend it 4" with glass



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #615, 04-22-2015 06:02 PM
      ready to glass the 4" extension



trial fitting the new part



while this is drying im extending the forward part of the door a bit





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #616, 04-22-2015 06:04 PM
     






this will be trimmed at the top because it hits the frame



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #617, 04-22-2015 06:06 PM
      taking a mold of the roof corners to add in later








Here I took off the outer door panel for a new twist .............


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #618, 04-22-2015 06:08 PM
      Ok... when you do a archie widebody kit your supposed to glass the inside of the door to make it more rigid. I did this with 2 layers of matt. Now things are about to change. I ground down all that glass and alittle into the plastic of the door and weighing it down I made it flat instead of curved and reglassed it solid





Flat door !!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #619, 04-22-2015 06:10 PM
     


How it looks





Before



After



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #620, 04-22-2015 06:12 PM
      Glassing the roof caps







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #621, 04-22-2015 06:19 PM
      WIth the caps glassed and added to the roof panel, I bonded and glass it to the car




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #622, 04-22-2015 06:21 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #623, 04-22-2015 06:25 PM
     


I used to have the exchanger low and in front of the engine but decided to move it up front, so , making a mount




and mounted




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #624, 04-22-2015 06:42 PM
      I cut the lower part of the door at the bend




I will add a section to this to form the inlet to the intercooler





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #625, 04-22-2015 06:45 PM
      About 14" in from the back of the door I ground out abit to bend the door panel inword at the rear.




You can see the bend in the door toward the rear inword







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #626, 04-22-2015 06:47 PM
     


The rear inlet I made was based on the curved door so it really doesn't line up anymore.....this is the frustration of changing your mind a thousand times on a build





Trying on the fender again with the straight door and the bend inword



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #627, 04-22-2015 06:52 PM
      She's gonna have some BIG HIPS !



Moving onto the front fenders.








Here you can see the new add on lower door parts which will flow into the rear air cooler. The fenders have a overlap outward from the doors now with the flair




with the roof close enough I bonded it



Adding the final section to the fender





RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #628, 04-22-2015 07:17 PM
     

Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #629, 04-22-2015 08:14 PM
      Thanks Bob ! And for the inspiration from your build



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #630, 04-22-2015 08:17 PM
      Well, the narrow nose does not cut it anymore being the rear is so much wider. The roundness which is very profound needs alittle chiseling So........sorry Amidia !!




Slice n Dice. The nose will now be 4" wider and 4" longer to the front.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #631, 04-22-2015 08:19 PM
      Trying to lay this bulky thing out ...



With it flat and more square you can really see the differience





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #632, 04-22-2015 08:22 PM
     



oh yea ! my rear window came in.. I cut a cardboard template out and gave it to a local glass shop. Tinted safety glass....60$ Time to pop er in !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #633, 04-22-2015 08:27 PM
      I started with glassing in the 4" stretch to the bumper lengeth



I taped the outside and glassed the inside. Later i'll add a layer to the outside.





Then with a flat glass panel I bonded it to the nose extension which later i'll glass over and under





Here you can really see just how much the fender curves in



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #634, 04-22-2015 08:39 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #635, 04-22-2015 08:59 PM
      Working on the front fender corner. Getting the spacing right.











Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #636, 04-22-2015 09:02 PM
      while the front drys im still toying with the rear.....





Its a open book back here and all those nights up with thoughts in my mind are adding up to a picture.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #637, 04-22-2015 09:03 PM
      Nose is finally taking some shape







RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #638, 04-22-2015 09:04 PM
      Holy Moses, there's more...

I totally understand what you're doing, but I probably could have hooked you up with the fellow that has the CK3 molds of the Koenig Competione.



Bob

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #639, 04-22-2015 09:05 PM
      It took quite a bit of cutting but I got my mono wiper system mocked up





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #640, 04-22-2015 09:09 PM
      Bob.... that's a REAL nice kit. I have pics of that kit on my computer and have referenced a build on mad mechanics. Super nice. Probably would've saved me a bunch of time for sure but I thought that kit was not in production anymore ?? Im alittle to far into this as you will see to get a kit but it is nice

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #641, 04-22-2015 11:13 PM
      good lord !! bozzie you are so good with fiberglass it is almost disgusting ! wow !

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #642, 04-25-2015 08:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Lots of changes , re changes, going backwords and now finally moving forward with a plan that works. It really isn't easy building something from pretty much scratch, and making it pleasing to the eye.




LOL, "Mission creep" has been the bane of my existence, and one of the reasons I've only driven my '88 about a year out of about 16 years of owning... I Don't know how many 100's of hr's gone up in smoke because the results didn't meet the needs. Maybe you, Carlo and myself could start a support group...

Have you thought about doing a splash of your modified windshield surround, that could save someone else (hint hint) a lot of work, I like the idea of being able to use the Sebring windshield without cutting it. Wish I thought of it.

Cant wait to see where you go with this.

Joe


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #643, 06-05-2015 10:35 PM
      Hey Tony, thanks again, a lot of trial and error but its looking good as of now. The pics im posting are about 3 months behind so its just taking awhile to get this updated.

Joe, thanks for following this. I totally hear ya on what your saying and can completely understand. I wish a few of you guys lived closer so we could wipe each others tears ! I might actually make a trim for the Sebring windshield alittle later. I just picked up a parts car to mock it off of .......fingers crossed !


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #644, 06-05-2015 10:40 PM
      Heres where the hips start out. I used a piece of 1x6 and trimmed it to size. I cut and bent it in at the middle to get the bend shape. This will be duplicated on the passenger side. As I clamp it in place I look it over and over till im happy with the shape.








Lots of time here . This is just the beginning so its got to be in the ballpark before I use it for a mold



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #645, 06-05-2015 10:41 PM
      just more shots






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #646, 06-05-2015 10:46 PM
      from behind and down




Ok, gonna skip the boring make a mold of this part and just jump to the part outta the mold. Once I got it close I applied mold release and dropped 3 layers of glass on it. While it was in the part I sanded it smooth which made it much easier. Here it is on the car for fitment.









Its got some good lines, alittle fine tuning later thou, as always





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #647, 06-05-2015 10:47 PM
      Doesn't look like much but trimming and moving it around to get the best fit.









Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #648, 06-05-2015 10:51 PM
      Here im pretty happy with it and moving on to the next stage




Appling the glass to the top bonding it to the doors and hip and rear quarter. Later i'll cut it down to open the door.








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #649, 06-05-2015 10:53 PM
      And glassed in











Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #650, 06-05-2015 10:55 PM
      Then I cut the door opening out and removed the quarter. I welded some braces up to hold the quarter up for now.








Better look at the cooler and bracketry










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #651, 06-05-2015 10:59 PM
      Quarter back on .. A lot of sanding and finishing here.








Passenger oil cooler








the Money shot




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #652, 06-05-2015 11:18 PM
      Moving onto the upper air inlets......

Cutting pieces of 1x and glass panels and mocking it up







Decided to make a jig so I could do both the drivers and passengers side at the same time . This takes a lot more prep but will leap me thru this. Drivers side looking good so far







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #653, 06-05-2015 11:20 PM
      Once there set I covered them in 3" masking tape and applied mold release to them





You can get the idea of the shape here





They have a nice flare to them







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #654, 06-05-2015 11:22 PM
      Time to glass


3 layers on each . Took some time because of the lines and curves.
















Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #655, 06-05-2015 11:28 PM
      I popped these out of the molds and while I sanded them I needed to make the rear hips go inward a bit.





I made a glass panel and shaped it to fit.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #656, 06-05-2015 11:30 PM
      and glassed




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #657, 06-05-2015 11:34 PM
      Whats not shown here is the 1/2 round glass panel I made using 3" pvc and making a panel out of that. I used this to shape the bottom of the upper air inlets so they round in at the bottom. Here im glassing them to the inlets.





A lot of shaping and sanding later shes looking good.










Tucked away till next time. Next step is the rear hatch... time for some metal work !






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #658, 06-05-2015 11:46 PM
      Jumping into the next phase here. Kinda skipped a buncha steps but here the hatch is getting mocked up.




Taking a bit to get the angles right with the air inlets. The whole thing will lift up as original




Im welding as I go and refitting it to make sure its right





Pretty much all set here





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #659, 06-05-2015 11:48 PM
      In the air !!








Down and with the inlets on







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #660, 06-05-2015 11:50 PM
      Now the next step is starting the rear end. Open book here........Lots of staring at this thing till im blind and trying to get a grip on how to start it before I jump in .....







RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #661, 06-06-2015 08:39 AM
      Wow!!!



Bob

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Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #662, 06-06-2015 04:36 PM
     

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #663, 06-06-2015 09:01 PM
     
Easier said than done, but Bozzie when do you hope to have her finished ?


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #664, 06-10-2015 09:27 PM
      Thanks guys !! Tony, im really hoping for the middle of July to take her into the sun for a drive. Not done but drivable. Kinda like the timing of last year for the Carlisle show. Gonna miss it this year

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #665, 06-10-2015 09:30 PM
      Start of the rear area now. I started with a "L " shaped glass form that I cut to size and fit across the rear and onto the top of the deck. I built this the same as always using 2 1x12x8 formica shelves on a 90 degree and 3 layers later poped it out.












Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #666, 06-10-2015 09:33 PM
      While the next piece of glass was drying I finished the inside of the side vents. Adding a piece makes it much smoother.






Trying on the old quarter for size and getting ideas on the look













Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #667, 06-10-2015 09:35 PM
      Moving onto the rear taillight area Really liked working on this, a simple piece that makes a huge difference. Its what will finally make the rear look like its coming together after all this time. I actually dreamed of making this when I first cut this car in half for the stretch .





Covered in tape and release





glassed




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #668, 06-10-2015 09:36 PM
      While it was in the mold I sanded it a bit and popped it out






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #669, 06-10-2015 09:45 PM
      Here im working on the roundness of the rear and alittle lip spoiler off the deck









And glassed






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #670, 06-10-2015 09:47 PM
     


Sanded it alittle and mocked up the taillight panel










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #671, 06-10-2015 09:55 PM
      She's WIDE




In with the Lotus Taillights










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #672, 06-10-2015 10:12 PM
      I needed to add some venting to the rear deck because the turbo is right below. So I picked a vent from I believe a 84 fiero ?







While im fooling with the center vent Im working on the side NACA vents. I looked into this a lot and the dynamics of it. I wanted to just buy one that would work and make it a lot easier buy couldn't find the right size and shape. So here's my 1'st dab at it.





Also making a scoop for the vent





Once I got the size I made a plug out of wood and glassed it.




Trimmed to fit and adjusted it to the height I wanted








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #673, 06-10-2015 10:14 PM
      I left the sides higher so I could shape them above the body line and add the rear scoop.








Center vent area cleaned up







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #674, 06-10-2015 10:30 PM
      Here you can see the NACA vent sides cut to shape



I didn't like the vertical nature of the vent so I cut it off flush and worked with sheet pieces. Here I glued the sides on for mock up






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #675, 06-10-2015 10:37 PM
     



Making filler pieced for the sides of the center vent








both sides ready to glass





Trying to get the flow and shape right







Top piece going together





I use super glue to hold these pieces together so I can glass in one piece. There is a pretty good bend to the top piece.. here a block holds it till its dry






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #676, 06-10-2015 10:45 PM
      Taping it off for glassing





2 layers later





Ready to glass the center add ons





Cleaned up and solid







and glassed





Cut the hole out and bottom support for the gas door










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #677, 06-10-2015 10:50 PM
      Overall look so far










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #678, 06-10-2015 10:55 PM
      Along a build you always stumble on the next big thing. For me its this... the rear wing. It was definatly one of the harder things to build but gave me the most satisfaction... step on , mock it up with wood . pretty much build it like I want it to look but about 1/2" smaller so the glass will have room











the center pieces are just to keep the pieces straight , im gluing all this together and to the table for strength





finally...













Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #679, 06-10-2015 10:58 PM
      This thing was a ***** ! . There is a lot of shape to is, aerodynamics, as well as angle and sweep. A lot of trial and error getting it as I did. finally its glass time.







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #680, 06-10-2015 11:06 PM
      I have 2 designs for this wing . This is one of them with the sides alittle stout , more abrupt up and down in the front. Not sure if im going to keep it this way but its a start




Popped from the mold and 1st fitting





Just some shots as I round the car and check it out








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #681, 06-10-2015 11:13 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #682, 06-10-2015 11:18 PM
      Just the outside layer the wing is weak so time to build her up.
Prepping it for 1/2" foam core




Core bonded to 1/2








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #683, 06-10-2015 11:20 PM
      Trial fit again to check the sides







I didn't really like it so im going with plan B and adding abit more angle to the edge





I bonded 1 layer of glass to the bottom afterwords










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #684, 06-10-2015 11:22 PM
      And then glassed that w 2 layers to it




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #685, 06-10-2015 11:25 PM
      Cleaned up alittle and trial fit













RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #686, 06-12-2015 07:20 PM
      I almost didn't bother posting because there's nothing to say...



Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #687, 06-13-2015 02:42 PM
      Speechless is good sometimes

Thanks Bob !

And the build goes back to the bumper ................

Laying it out





I cut and laid out all the matting....there is abunch !!





Moved it close by




Getting ready,,, don't want to run out of resin





Glassed




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #688, 06-13-2015 02:44 PM
      When dry I popped it off





Cleaned it up





and back on







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #689, 06-13-2015 02:45 PM
      Now working on the inside of the wing legs





3 layer sheet that is flush in the front and goes to 1/2 foam in the rear ... alittle taper



zkhennings MSG #690, 06-17-2015 12:15 PM
      I really like your tastes, I have been following this build for a loong time.

If we do have the same tastes, then you won't make the rear bumper extend down too too much farther

Think Lancia 037 (though it's pure rally so some compromise covering up an impact absorber that the 037 is missing)



I like where the bumper ends right now!

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #691, 06-17-2015 06:59 PM
      ZK......glad you like how she's coming out. As you can tell I have changed my tastes a few times on this build and a thousand times more in my head along the way Thanks for following as its been a long road for sure. As for the bumper it sits pretty low as it is ... not sure yet if im going to lift the car alittle or what yet. I still have the rear diffuser to build but its going to be pretty shallow and angular with a center exhaust outlet...hoping to get to that real soon. For now heres more :


Passengers side inner wing plate. 1/2" taper inward to the rear





Here you can see the foam core. Its only about 4" in to the front so it tapers







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #692, 06-17-2015 07:01 PM
      Moving around a lot as things dry and my patience runs thin !

Alittle glass and fill on the door





This is the leading edge of the wing. The inner wing leg fits flush to it.... glassed together




Fillin on the passenger side




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #693, 06-17-2015 07:02 PM
      Some sanding and checking





Now for the rear of the wing stands it tapers to 1/2" wider than the front so I made some glass filler plates and glassed it in







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #694, 06-17-2015 07:05 PM
      I spend just as much time staring at this thing as working on it. After some measuring I figured the rear was about 2" to short so I moved the hatch rearward and made some filler panels. This worked out well because I had to make a front panel for the center vent anyway so not much time lost here.













Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #695, 06-17-2015 07:09 PM
      once that was glassed and sanded I flipped the hatch over and taped off where I was going to glass the underside. Here's how she looks on the bottom





and back together shifted 2" rearward
















Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #696, 06-17-2015 07:11 PM
      Started filling alittle on the doors and some more glass on the front.





When the outside of the front is good enough I'll flip her over and clean up and reinforce the underside



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #697, 06-17-2015 07:13 PM
      The mirrors have been a thorn in my side for awhile now. There is simply nothing out there that I find will work for me on this car. So I decided to just make my own. Heres the start of it. 2000 Grand prix mirror base.










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #698, 06-17-2015 07:17 PM
      After some trimming and removal of the mirror part I cut up a corvette mirror off a 2005 vette and started to mold the too together





Fooling around with the angles and width. Glued them together with super fast





Filled the voids with foam and will shape later







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #699, 06-17-2015 07:19 PM
      The taillight panel needed a top panel to mount the screen grill to later so I bonded one to it








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #700, 06-17-2015 07:22 PM
      To complete the rear hatch I needed a extension for the roof line. I cut the trailing 6" of a parts car and will use this as my base




I added a lip to it so the plexi engine cover can mount to this later





After another test fit the mirror needed alittle adjustment downward so I cut the top mount and spaced it out alittle with a paint stick and reglued it







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #701, 06-17-2015 07:30 PM
      Time to frame in the rear bumper for support and mounting. Ive decided to make this removable so I can have easier access to the rear of the car / engine. Mocking up the supports.

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With it framed in I mounted it to the car





Then I pulled the body and added some braces to the mount








With this mount the rear light panel / bumper / bottom quarter will be removable and give me some good access


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #702, 06-17-2015 07:35 PM
      More work on the mirror. This actually goes pretty fast as the SEM problem plastic filler I use drys quickly and you can sand, shape, and refill quickly







Getting the rear ready for the next project....waiting for UPS !!




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #703, 06-17-2015 07:37 PM
      Here's the 2 air to air intoolers to be mounted in the correct place in the rear.





Welding the mounts in and secured with gussets








Last year I Had a host of problems keeping the Turbo air cool so this better fix it !!


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LornesGT MSG #704, 06-17-2015 11:56 PM
      I would not think that is going to solve the heat issue since all the engine and tire heat is right there unless directed from under the car.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #705, 06-18-2015 07:04 AM
      How is it you don't have a rating bar?? This is amazing work.

Best custom mods thread ever.

Bob


Danyel MSG #706, 06-18-2015 10:35 PM
      Just one word WOW !!!!
Added to my favorites

Danyel


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #707, 06-24-2015 04:16 PM
      Thanks Again Bob ! Ratings are scary for me cause isn't that why Curly isn't here anymore ?? Thanks for chiming in Dan..... more to come !

intercoolers tucked away nice... I'll build venting from the top NACA vents to these later

















Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #708, 06-24-2015 04:19 PM
      The top of the hatch didn't have a provision for the vent so time to open it up for one


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Welded the front of it in first





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Then extended it rearward







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #709, 06-24-2015 04:21 PM
      Then to mount the vent to the underside of the Hatch with Aluminum Angle




Once the bonding agent was cured I bolted on








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #710, 06-24-2015 04:22 PM
     

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #711, 06-24-2015 04:24 PM
      Working on the top of the hatch roof extension. Added a lip to the front to keep it from warping







Sage (sgwfiberglass@gmail.com) MSG #712, 06-24-2015 10:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by RCR:

How is it you don't have a rating bar?? This is amazing work.

Best custom mods thread ever.

Bob


Quoted for truth and emphasis!

What a work of art.......this is the kinda stuff I used to see in the shop of the guy that taught me fiberglass. Talk about "inspiration"!

Phenomenal build and skills. I realize it's a "process", but you have heard the old saying that it takes two artists to make a "masterpiece", right?............you know, one to hold the brush and makes the strokes, and the other to knock him in the head when he's done! J/K, it's obvious and understood that you are a long way from being finished, and I'm sure you have an end goal firmly planted in your mind. I just know that had I undertaken such a huge project at my age alone, it'd probably never really be "done".

Good on you, and hats off to your patience, skills, and vision. Thanks for sharing your dream and the reality of giving it wings.

Added to favorites, and BTW, I gave you a plus quite a while ago.


HAGO!



motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #713, 06-25-2015 08:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sage:


Quoted for truth and emphasis!

What a work of art.......this is the kinda stuff I used to see in the shop of the guy that taught me fiberglass. Talk about "inspiration"!

Phenomenal build and skills. I realize it's a "process", but you have heard the old saying that it takes two artists to make a "masterpiece", right?............you know, one to hold the brush and makes the strokes, and the other to knock him in the head when he's done! J/K, it's obvious and understood that you are a long way from being finished, and I'm sure you have an end goal firmly planted in your mind. I just know that had I undertaken such a huge project at my age alone, it'd probably never really be "done".

Good on you, and hats off to your patience, skills, and vision. Thanks for sharing your dream and the reality of giving it wings.

Added to favorites, and BTW, I gave you a plus quite a while ago.


HAGO!


What Sage said...

Joe


LornesGT MSG #714, 07-13-2015 12:56 AM
      I am looking for the look you have with your wheels, deep dish in the back and shallow in the front. What brand and specs are they?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #715, 07-14-2015 11:39 AM
      Bob, thanks for "tuning" in and you compliments ! Its stuff like this that keeps me going when im running low on drive. Really appreciate it !

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #716, 07-14-2015 11:41 AM
      Sage, man you really hit it on that one ! It is the journey thou for me. I wanted to get it out in the sun this year but there are still so much to do and many mods to make that while im neck deep in this thing it is the time to do it, rather than taking it all apart again ! Been there already on this !! Just letting the time frame and end game go and just go on with the build has brought me relief in this project. You surly know how the candle gets burnt out Thank you for your words and inspiration.

Joe...... Thank you !!

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #717, 07-14-2015 11:51 AM
      Lornes, The Wheels are Bonspeed thou I would not recommend them as a company. They are 19x9 measuring 10" to the lip on the front and 19 x 12 measuring 13" to the lip. I have to look up the offset but the were built wrong to begin with. The front offset puts the wheel in the factory position. The rear offset was supposed to make it fit perfectly on the rear with Archie's widebody but they goofed and made it 2" to far out. Hensce the rebuilding and widening of Archies widebody kit to the point of where I am now. The rear has a 4 1/2" lip. Hope his helps, there are a few custom wheel factorys that build 3 piece wheels for about the same price as I paid for these puppys.

Boz


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #718, 07-16-2015 02:00 PM
      Boz check out this guy's build. http://www.madmechanics.com...ild-progress-24.html

hercimer01 MSG #719, 07-16-2015 11:06 PM
      Thanks for taking the time to detail this build. I can live vicariously through this until I get up the Kahoneys to do a widebody myself. Very nice work.

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steve308 MSG #720, 08-17-2015 05:05 PM
      Boozie ------- updates are overdue!

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #721, 10-11-2015 04:10 PM
      bump.

davylong86 MSG #722, 02-05-2016 10:31 PM
      Big Bump! Hope life is good for you and the Project.

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #723, 03-14-2016 04:24 PM
      Hello ALL and thanks for the bumps and Views ! After alittle hiatus , mostly from working on customers cars im getting back to Alchemy. Lots of plans and changes, thoughts and dreams of this project. Hears where we continue with the build



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #724, 03-14-2016 04:26 PM
      Making some mounting bracket for the body. Its about time she hangs herself !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #725, 03-14-2016 04:27 PM
      Making some mounting bracket for the body. Its about time she hangs herself !!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #726, 03-14-2016 04:29 PM
      Here the doors are getting a glassing of the underside of the efx. I'll cut a slot in them for the electric releases that I got from a corvette....just a pushbutton , no more handles




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #727, 03-14-2016 04:30 PM
      A few more layers of plastic on the mirrors and sandings. Looking like something now.


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #728, 03-14-2016 04:33 PM
      more sanding of the body. I placed the upper cap of the hatch on and looking at how I will glass it all together for the final plexi window later



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #729, 03-14-2016 04:35 PM
      Because I changed some of the lines of the body the lower intake no longer fit right., so making another one to fit. Cant tell how many times ive made this part in all different shapes....hope this is the LAST one for this car







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #730, 03-14-2016 04:37 PM
      I decided to hold down the hatch with the original latches I had. I made some brackets for the lower stud and cut out the top for the latchs.







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #731, 03-14-2016 04:39 PM
      Some metal work ...............





Pin Mounting




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #732, 03-14-2016 04:40 PM
      On to the next step





The hatch lifts fine , but ill replace the hinge with one like Niels Advenador build later thanks for the tip Niel




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #733, 03-14-2016 05:02 PM
      Before I glass the hatch pieces together I welded a lip on the side for the wing to bolt to. Im figuring this wing is going to put some stress on the body and should be attached well







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #734, 03-14-2016 05:06 PM
      Time to put this hatch together Making a few filler pieces for the rear trailing edge. The idea is that after this whole thing is glassed together it will be able to slide off the frame for any type of repair or access.



Just gluing these pieces together with quick glue to glass over later





Glassed




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #735, 03-14-2016 05:08 PM
      And the other side..................










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #736, 03-14-2016 05:11 PM
      and the top corner




Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #737, 03-14-2016 06:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

The hatch lifts fine , but ill replace the hinge with one like Niels Advenador build later thanks for the tip Niel



You're welcome Bozzie! ...only fitting...I'm stealing borrowing ideas from your build all the time...

Love this build! Keep up the great work!


LornesGT MSG #738, 03-14-2016 10:08 PM
      Glad you are back, now if I could schedule a vacation for some glass work clasSes in CT. I hope to have Archie's widebody in my shop soon.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #739, 03-15-2016 06:00 AM
      Yay, you're back



Bob


ITALGT MSG #740, 03-15-2016 05:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by RCR:

Yay, you're back




X2!

Keep pecking away at it, it's coming along beautifully. And thanks for taking the time to share your progress.

Lookin' sweet.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #741, 03-17-2016 05:11 PM
      Feels great to be back in the swing here everybody !! NEILS88.......RCR.......LORNESGT......ITALGT......and so much more of the Fiero builders and modders ......I feel that we pull from each other and ideas are born and raised within our builds. In my eyes we are all leaders and followers in the hobby and it just keeps getting the bar raised every time. Just wish somehow the knowledge of the tips and tricks could be easier to access. LORNESGT.......looking forward to you getting your widebody !! And the build continues......


The bottom of the wing gets aluminum angles to attach to the metal frame of the hatch. It will be bolted for strength. I bonded them for now but they will be glassed as well





alittle filling in




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #742, 03-17-2016 05:12 PM
      more filling of the body, this is where the time goes by faster





ready to start the next modd




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #743, 03-17-2016 05:14 PM
      smoother and smoother Getting ideas for the rear diffuser and rear fenders







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #744, 03-17-2016 05:15 PM
      In the air getting ready for the tilt nose





I used the front hinges for this. Just cut them up a bit and bolted them onto the lower frame I already made.







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #745, 03-17-2016 05:18 PM
      And she tilts !!












and back down


going to make it a lot easier to access the front and with a few quick bolts it'll all come right off. A lot of finish work to do yet


LornesGT MSG #746, 03-18-2016 12:05 AM
      Probably asked before but how many layers of fiberglass does it take to have enough strength in the parts? What type of Fiberglas is best?

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #747, 03-18-2016 06:04 AM
      Great stuff, Bozzie. Same question as Lorne asked above ^^^.

Also, are you going to leave the rear portion of the fender bottom attached to the hood, or cut it off at the belt line? My thought (and this is something I thought about on mine) is that that little extra part hanging down gets in the way of accessing the front, unless you do pull the whole thing off.

Just my penny and a half.

back to the

Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #748, 03-30-2016 04:46 PM
      LornesGT and RCR, Usually I use 1.5oz matting. I just started using Fiber Glast Resin. It seams much thinner than other brands and MUCH easier to break down the matting for a easier soak thru. I Vary thickness, usually 2 3 or 4 layers of matting , and rolling out the excess Resin with a ribbed roller. Its the Matt that provides the strength once saturated, so rolling out the excess Resin is important for a good bond and thin strong results. I just picked up a Shredder and a 50lb spool of "hairs" so as to make curves and uneven surfaces much easier to build up. Hope that helps

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #749, 03-30-2016 04:47 PM
      Bob..... your ahead of me on the hood buddy ! That's EXACTLY what I was thinking !! I very much appreciate your build and watch it carfully. So, Bob..... heres your answer

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #750, 03-30-2016 04:51 PM
      This ones for Bob ! Your absolutely right about that extra fender area ready to punch ya ! ......so im going to chop it right at the beltline !

Drawing the new line on the body line




and OFF she goes





Much better and out of the way






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #751, 04-02-2016 04:04 PM
      Making a left and right mount for the lower front fender and upper hood





and welding them in with bracing








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #752, 04-02-2016 04:06 PM
      now that things are layed out im fine tuning things..... like the B pillar. Before...





After




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #753, 04-02-2016 04:08 PM
      Working on the passenger side mirror......my zigg







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #754, 04-02-2016 04:11 PM
      just got in this 88 CJB for some upgrades








Put in some new Fiero Store Sailpanels




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #755, 04-02-2016 04:12 PM
      Just got in this 85 308 as well for some electrical repairs


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #756, 04-02-2016 04:14 PM
      Larger Brake booster upgrade in the CJB




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #757, 04-02-2016 04:16 PM
      Tucked away for the night


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #758, 04-07-2016 03:22 PM
      Got some pieces in for the black CJB Install to come soon




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #759, 04-07-2016 03:23 PM
      on the 85' 308 this is what the wiring looked like. Customer states the brake lights don't work....wonder why ?????




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #760, 04-07-2016 03:25 PM
      more carnage !




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #761, 04-07-2016 03:27 PM
      After cutting out all the excess and then rewiring the lights. Found a short in the brake lights in the quarter panel and fixed that as well. Cleaned up..... and working





Repaired the front marker light wiring as well. And outside again
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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #762, 04-07-2016 07:51 PM
      Funny Mine didn't come with the door sill edging.



Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #763, 04-08-2016 04:32 PM
      Bob.....the owner told me it was a option back in 85' . VARY RARE !!

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #764, 04-08-2016 04:37 PM
      Ugh, some people shouldn't be allowed near tools...

Joe


Sage (sgwfiberglass@gmail.com) MSG #765, 04-08-2016 11:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Bob.....the owner told me it was a option back in 85' . VARY RARE !!


Yea....I'd bet not too many ordered it, being gold and all!

Course gold wasn't as high back then.....


Nice job on the wiring!


HAGO!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #766, 04-10-2016 08:18 PM
      Well....the 308 went home so its back to work on the 512

Putting some time in on the passenger mirror. I foamed it and shaped it.






Ready for its first coat of plastic



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #767, 04-10-2016 08:20 PM
      Getting starter in the interior again. The headliner is 4" to short. So I got a fiberglass one from Archie, and cut another one up 4" to make up the difference.






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #768, 04-10-2016 08:22 PM
      1st Coat of plastic

2nd


And some sanding



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #769, 04-10-2016 08:24 PM
      I clamped the headliner and 40/40'd it for a quick temporary fit for glassing



Going to glass over the 3rd brake light hole....that's another project later on

Ready for some glassing


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #770, 04-10-2016 08:26 PM
      Ready

Glassed

Dry





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #771, 04-10-2016 08:28 PM
      now for the other side, ill trim this later as I get the fit and taper right





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #772, 04-10-2016 08:32 PM
      Back to the rear. I cut the taillight section out from the bumper. This will be fixed as the bumper will be removable for access to the lower rear engine compartment. Now im back to some trial and error as I try to shape this in a way that my mind is set.

Open book again here.


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #773, 04-11-2016 06:20 PM
      Started making sheets for template for the rear quarters.



The taillight panel was straight but I decided to stagger the lights a bit, so I separated them





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #774, 04-11-2016 06:21 PM
      using a piece of 5/8 pine I staggered the lights, ready for glassing







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #775, 04-11-2016 06:23 PM
      Now making the lip for the upper and lower quarter / bumper to mount to. Unlike my last version the bottom bumper / lower quarter fender will be removable.



Lower quarter




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #776, 04-11-2016 06:25 PM
      while that was drying I made some panels for the diffuser. Glassed them to the bottom bumper






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #777, 04-13-2016 08:08 PM
      moving back to the Mirror. There was a space between the bottom of the mount and the top of the door.....so alittle glass here..




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #778, 04-13-2016 08:11 PM
      Today I sold one of my 5sp 88 GT's Went to a good local home and it will be great so see more on the road in this area this summer !







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #779, 04-13-2016 08:14 PM
      BUT....all is not lost as I brought this CJB 88' 5sp supercharged baby home. She's a burn victim in the battery area. Not to bad of a repair. I'll so a Restoration build on this in the general area soon



Here she is Flying onto the trailer ! Who says Fieros don't fly ?!!



bonaduce (dbarnett@nycap.rr.com) MSG #780, 04-13-2016 08:24 PM
      damn, that is some Night Rider boost right ther, lol

dan

p.s. continue that fiberglass work, love seeing it


Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #781, 04-14-2016 10:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by bonaduce:

damn, that is some Night Rider boost right ther, lol




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #782, 04-15-2016 01:40 AM
      Box any mofs planned for the new one ?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #783, 04-18-2016 07:36 PM
      Thanks Dan n Neil Thou I prefer to keep them on the ground when there flying Tony, the new CJB will get a few tweeks. Im still contemplating what to do. More to come on that build.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #784, 04-18-2016 07:39 PM
      Back to Alchemy. Working on the rear quarters again. Mocking up the upper part.










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #785, 04-18-2016 07:41 PM
      Trimming and mocking up the bottom end




Almost time to drop the cradle and replace the clutch and all the brake / clutch lines / water lines.....from the stretch. I figure ill do that after mothers day.....for now i'll start building the interior back up again.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #786, 04-22-2016 04:59 PM
      Starting the interior here. I cut pieces from flat sheets to fit into the quarter window opening. Then I just glued them together before I put a final glass layer on it. Picked up from the Fiero Store the firewall abs panels with speaker opening. I was going to mount speakers into the upper rear area but it is just to small to do so.





Feels good to see the interior come back together.



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #787, 04-22-2016 05:02 PM
      With the drivers side together I made templates for the passenger side. This side will come together MUCH quicker ! Pieces ready to go.



Sheets curing for the lower insides of the inside.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #788, 05-04-2016 05:55 PM
      Now that the interior pieces and body panels are coming together its time to drop the cradle. A few past problems need to be fixed. 1 st off is the Clutch slipping under boost. Another is the cleaning up and simplifying the wiring harness's. Finish up some welds and primer and repaint the engine bay.....among a few other things. So...... out she comes !




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #789, 05-04-2016 05:57 PM
      Full of dust she's out.







Now comes the Fun part !


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #790, 05-13-2016 09:58 PM
      Cleanup TIME !!! Grinding welds / Cleaning the frame for paint














Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #791, 05-13-2016 10:00 PM
      Multi tasking is the best when things are apart and all over the shop ! While things are drying on the frame , started taking the engine off the cradle to find out whats up with the clutch. Headers off, separating.....




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #792, 05-13-2016 10:26 PM
      So with the drivetrain out I gutted the engine compartment. Everything is off / out GONE ! A few changes to some things while im this deep to come.




1st off im moving the ECM to the engine bay. This way when I have to drop the engine I can just unplug it




If you look up you can see the hinges for the hatch..... Courtesy of Neil's build Thanks Buddy !

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #793, 05-13-2016 10:32 PM
      Welded in some braces from the rear xrossmember between the towers to each rear cradle mount









Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #794, 05-13-2016 10:34 PM
      With everything for the most part finalized its epoxy primer time




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #795, 05-13-2016 10:38 PM
      With the engine split from the tranny I could see a few issues. The Pressure plate was rubbing into the tranny housing. A couple of grooves here. The F40 Spacer seams to be alittle to thick. Ive read a few issues on the forum about this. 1800 miles on a Spec 3+ and this is what I get.


The spacer..... theres some hot spots and uneven wear, probably because of all the extra pieces to make this clutch work it wasn't perfectly symmetrical.


A custom Spec Flywheel is now on the way.....no more spacers !!

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #796, 05-13-2016 10:47 PM
      Primer......................................










Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #797, 05-13-2016 10:49 PM
     

Primer done and drying


ITALGT MSG #798, 05-14-2016 05:28 PM
      WOW... Bozzie, this build of your's truly lives up to its description. It's absolutely amazing what you can do with the right tools, experience, determination, patience and vision.

Bravo, sir, bravo.

P.S.: I want your lift.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #799, 05-19-2016 05:55 PM
      Thanks ITALGT !! its definatly been a LONG rode. Its always SO close, but SO far........and for the Record, if your in my area and need a lift, its here for Ya !

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #800, 05-19-2016 05:58 PM
      and Now for some PAINT Semi gloss black








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #801, 05-25-2016 08:54 PM
      Time to put this baby back together





Remote oil filter back on


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #802, 05-25-2016 08:58 PM
      Mounted the intercooler tank and routed the line for the Heat exchanger in the front, heat wrapped for freshness !








Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #803, 05-25-2016 09:01 PM
      Power steering cooler back up



Power steering pump mounted






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #804, 05-25-2016 09:14 PM
      Moved the C500 connector to the drivers side behind the seat. Trying to keep the wiring on one side and away from belts and moving parts. Also , will be easier to just unplug the motor and drop it .

Breather installed

Intercooler return line and plumbing the filter




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #805, 05-25-2016 09:17 PM
      New fuel pump installed, AN fitting and the tank is ready




Tank in. Because the 4" stretch was after the rear strap the tank went right back in place. It is however 4" forward of the rear bulkhead. No a problem but the fuel inlet to the tank is now to short. Ordered new 90degree fuel hose to replace the old ones.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #806, 05-25-2016 09:19 PM
      ECU bolted up in its new home. ALOT less wires into the rear console and when I need to drop the engine, I just unplug it !






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #807, 05-25-2016 09:21 PM
      Cooler plumbed. It is routed to the front crossmember for now and the pump return. Not sure if i'll get it up and running this summer, or it'll be a winter project !



Return hardline




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #808, 05-25-2016 09:23 PM
      Turbo block installed with gauge, lines to be added after the motors back in


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #809, 05-25-2016 09:26 PM
      Power block installed. Controler for intercooler moved to firewall. Making things neat and easy to get to. With a 3.25" cradle stretch theres more than enough room for all this and it has plenty of air around it from getting to hot




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #810, 05-25-2016 09:27 PM
      Oil cooler installed. Working on the plumbing for this. Its pretty tight in here.





More to come !


motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #811, 05-27-2016 11:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:

Have you thought about doing a splash of your modified windshield surround, that could save someone else (hint hint) a lot of work, I like the idea of being able to use the Sebring windshield without cutting it. Wish I thought of it.

Cant wait to see where you go with this.

Joe


Before you get too carried away, could I talk you into that "splash"?

Lookin' good

Joe


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #812, 06-06-2016 08:11 PM
      Joe..... I think I missed your post ....not sure when you said that ! I do have plans of making "parts" to work with a sebring windshield. PM me what your timeframe is and what your thinkin.

Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #813, 06-06-2016 08:25 PM
      Evap Tank getting some Paint




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #814, 06-06-2016 08:28 PM
      Switching over to the Engine now. New Flywheel from Spec Vers. 3800 Manual 5 sp without spacer



Heres where it gets interesting...... Manual flywheel with spacer for F40 Vers. F40 Spec Flywheel


Theres about 3/16 " difference between them. I think I know why my clutch was slipping now !!!!



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #815, 06-06-2016 08:32 PM
      Spec 3+ Clutch Vers. Clutchnets Badest 6 Puck with Springs. Spec said they didn't make springs strong enough ...hence no springs. Clutchnet says otherwise and offers a said smoother engagement considering such a HOT clutch.....we'll see

Now....Spec Pressure plate Vers. Clutchnet . Clutchnet says Spec uses repurposed plates, hence the painted over rivets.... clutchnet you see rivets are not painted over.....Hmmmmmmmmmmm



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #816, 06-06-2016 08:37 PM
      Back to the Body. With the drivetrain out and still awaiting some parts the body work and whatever else needs to be done is wicked easy now ! Shaping the rear quarter / its spaced out for some curves. Without the wheels to guide me as to where it needs to be this is pretty close till I can do any adjustments. I only glassed the last 6" of the lower quarter incase I need to adjust it later.






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #817, 06-06-2016 08:39 PM
      FYI , I just Launched my new Website. Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com Check it out. Have some build links, parts and pics. Let me know what you think and if theres anything I can do for anybody !

Thanks

Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #818, 06-06-2016 08:46 PM
      Inside quarter coming together




Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #819, 06-06-2016 08:48 PM
      Firewall coming together

Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #820, 06-06-2016 08:50 PM
      Here I welded in a brace for the lower bumper diffuser. This is just tagged in with screws for now to the diffuser but will be thru bolted later when final fitment is done.



Rear looking SOLID !


Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #821, 06-06-2016 08:52 PM
      Final pics of the Hatch for the night. All's tucked away neatly




Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #822, 06-06-2016 11:08 PM
      Man i love this project ! Bozzie how many layers thick is your glasswork typically ?

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #823, 06-07-2016 11:22 PM
      Nice work. That's a load of work hours put into it. Are you building this car for someone else?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #824, 06-08-2016 08:23 PM
      Hello Tony ! How ya doing ? Typically my average is 4 layers of glass. Sometimes I try to keep it lighter in non stress areas or areas that i'll support later with 3 layers. When I make my sheets to build panels there usually 2 layers so I can work with them and after there shaped i'll add the final 2 layers. If there complex bends then Ill make a sheet of 1 layer... its real thin, and twist and shape it. I use Formica sheets like Archie does, and sometimes Formica shelving that i'll put together in a 90 degree to make bend shapes. Gotta Mc'Gyver it sometimes !!

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #825, 06-08-2016 08:27 PM
      Hey Amida ! Well ,..... this car is ALL Mine Don't think anyone would justify spending money to build this one. Its my Therapy project, so its more the Journey then the destination. Probably why every time I think I got it right , I just tear it apart and do something different ! .................However........ I just got the 512 nose you sent me. It came I Amazing shape as your packing is second to none ! That is going on the black 88 CJB that im building for a customer. Pics to come. Thanks for your amazing work !!!



Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #826, 06-08-2016 08:32 PM
      Back onto the engine. Nows the time to make the wires go where I want them. I have made so many upgrades over the last few years that the wiring needs to be consolidated. Im also wiring it to make is super easy to unplug and drop the cradle. All ends will have plugs on them, there will be no need to go into the console for anything.



Here all the wires are plugged . I'll feed them into the center console and that will be the last time they come out. The plugs are outside, so simple





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #827, 06-08-2016 08:34 PM
      Just trimming alittle around the gap in the door between the mirror. Im pretty much everywhere on this project as when the drive train goes back in next week the less to do the better !




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #828, 06-08-2016 08:37 PM
      More fitting and finishing in the rear hips



Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #829, 06-08-2016 08:38 PM
      Time to do the final stretch on the cradle. I tack welded a piece of angle iron across the front of the front mounts. This will hold the spacing correct when I cut the arms. Then.....cut em' up !


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #830, 06-08-2016 08:41 PM
      I then set the height of the mounts on the jackstands. The arms angle up so after the cut they have to go straight forward. Then I clamped some square tubing onto both ends to align them straight. Measured about 20 times, and now to weld it together.



Using a combination of 1" 2" and 3" steel I welded it tight


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #831, 06-08-2016 08:43 PM
      coming together



Plated all the way around, I cut the front angle iron off and all that's left is to clean it up and put some paint on her ! 3.25" stretch

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #832, 06-08-2016 08:48 PM
      My original hinge for the hatch was using the front hood hinge of the fiero. BUT thanks to Niel ive converted to impala hinges. So...... after I cut my old hinges out I needed to glass them over. Using Fleece I glass it up. I used a paint stirrer with masking tape on it to keep it from sticking to box it in and then just popped them off when it was dry.





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #833, 06-08-2016 08:51 PM
      The plan on this is to make everything removable easly. So the rear quarter will be able to come off with the window still in. So where you see the yellow tape line is where im going to glass it to fit snuggle against the frame of the car. The window will be above this in its own frame.



Finished off the glassing on the top edge of the hatch..... 3 layers





motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #834, 06-09-2016 08:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Joe..... I think I missed your post ....not sure when you said that ! I do have plans of making "parts" to work with a sebring windshield. PM me what your timeframe is and what your thinkin.

Boz


Made the post a bit over a year ago. PM sent.

Joe


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #835, 06-10-2016 06:57 AM
      Great stuff Boz.

Someday when I get to the windshield, I'll drop you a note.

Bob


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #836, 06-11-2016 09:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Hello Tony ! How ya doing ? Typically my average is 4 layers of glass. Sometimes I try to keep it lighter in non stress areas or areas that i'll support later with 3 layers. When I make my sheets to build panels there usually 2 layers so I can work with them and after there shaped i'll add the final 2 layers. If there complex bends then Ill make a sheet of 1 layer... its real thin, and twist and shape it. I use Formica sheets like Archie does, and sometimes Formica shelving that i'll put together in a 90 degree to make bend shapes. Gotta Mc'Gyver it sometimes !!


Hi Boz,
Just to add clarification to our esteemed colleague's question, What weight glass are you using? and, typically how thick are you making it?

Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #837, 06-18-2016 05:52 PM
      Joe, So Sorry I missed that ! I got your PM, and ....also to Bob / RCR. As things progress here by the fall time I will me making a part for the Sebring windshield. I have a few parts cars that I can test it on. Also, on BOTH your builds they are a tremendous inspiration for me as I love to watch your journeys as well. Bob, as far as thickness's go. I use 1 1/2oz fabric , which is .045 thick. Most of my parts come out between 1/8 and 3/16" thick. On some parts that need reinforcement I go as far as a 1/4" The more shapes the part has I can stay at around 1/8 because the shapes make it stronger. Parts like the rear bumper are 1/4" Air ducts 1/8, rear hips and hatch 3/16 average. Hope that answers it !

Build ON !!

Pontiacbuildersnortheast.com


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #838, 06-18-2016 06:27 PM
      Throw out bearing...old and new. With all the pressure from the misaligned pressureplate nows the time to replace this thing. Don't want to have to dive all this deep after the fact !!




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #839, 06-18-2016 06:29 PM
      New Flywheel mounted

Tranny cleaned up of all the crap. New bearing installed just because


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #840, 06-18-2016 06:30 PM
      now clutch and pressure plate bolted up. Time to but these 2 together !!




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #841, 06-18-2016 06:32 PM
      And she dropped right in. Its at these times that make you think if you forgot anything !! That's the stuff that keeps you up at night !



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #842, 06-18-2016 06:34 PM
      its SO good to be back to this point !





Headers on ! I Had a V Band tigged to the end of it . The Turbo inlet will be all V band. I had sealing issues before.




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #843, 06-18-2016 06:35 PM
      Cleaning things up and getting her ready to go back to her home





Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #844, 06-18-2016 09:38 PM
      Nice. How does it sound with headers?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #845, 06-20-2016 07:06 PM
      Thanks Rob, I was running a Flowmaster muffler before and she had a real sweet rumble. Just sounded like it looked. Under boost its more like a F4 Phantom taking off, the Rush of air is insane

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #846, 06-20-2016 07:18 PM
      Mocking up the Fuel fill



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #847, 06-20-2016 07:21 PM
      Here I made a support for the center of the hatch, also a place where it will be secured along with the lexan window later.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #848, 06-20-2016 07:24 PM
      Heres Archies shift cable mounting, im swapping it out to Guru's setup.




And Guru's




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #849, 06-20-2016 07:26 PM
      Painted the Front Cradle mounts





New cables





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #850, 06-20-2016 07:29 PM
      Stiffened up the header mount where the Turbo V Bands in





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #851, 06-20-2016 07:31 PM
      Finally got to a point of Putting her back in. Lots of little things to do but I can get it with it in. Lowered down and bolted up











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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #852, 06-20-2016 07:33 PM
      Mounted the Intercoolers. Lots of things to hook up now...... Till next time





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Sage (sgwfiberglass@gmail.com) MSG #853, 06-21-2016 11:07 AM
      https://youtu.be/ZsxCMPQzqvk
"We have the technology...we can rebuild it...The Bionic Fiero/Ferrari/Bozzie original speed wagon"


So satisfying to just SEE this coming together, can only imagine the glee you must be feeling, even knowing the massive amount of work yet to be done.

One brick at a time, the wall gets built!


[Never have been able to get the "embed" function to work for me...not sure what I'm doing wrong...followed the instruction to the letter...just has never worked...I see others have done it...open to suggestions.]

HAGO!

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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #854, 06-21-2016 01:04 PM
      Did I mention:

Thanx for letting us join your journey.

Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #855, 06-27-2016 12:31 PM
      Sage.....LOL.... Thank you ! Heres a quick story for all. When I was alittle younger....in a time kinda far back at my dads house he had a bunch of trees cut down. They put all the mulch in a big pile. My dad not liking mulch so much wanted to get rid of it. So.....every day he went in the back yard and put as much as he could in a small box and took it to work to put in the dumpster. I laughed to myself as looking at the pile I thought it would take a lifetime. It didn't look like much was leaving for awhile but then the pile got smaller. And then even smaller until it was just alittle pile....and then it was gone. I believe that it was this unspoken lesson that brought me to big projects without fear. Because I can see the end, not knowing when, it usually sneaks up on ya, as I believe anyone with a eye on there project can see. We just hope to eventually get there for usually its all about the journey ... right RCR !

Thanks everyone for watching and chiming in !

Boz

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #856, 06-27-2016 12:37 PM
      A few pics as she is







Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #857, 06-27-2016 12:43 PM
      Plugging things in and hooking stuff up. Lots of everything.....



Computer hooked up


Making up some power cables out of O gauge wire





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #858, 06-27-2016 12:45 PM
      Now to mock up the turbo and piping / wastegate......




Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #859, 06-27-2016 12:47 PM
      After moving this thing around to clear the intercoolers , it seams like the best position is this, but the intake is blocked by the power steering pump. So.... somethings gotta give !




Took the inlet pipe down after mocking up the wastegate . Time to get it tigged






Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #860, 06-27-2016 12:53 PM
      in the meantime I braced the Flange for the exhaust inlet to the turbo. Solid, like everything else is in the motor mounting



V Band flange on the turbo mount



orientation of turbo

power steering pump in the way !!!




Pump removed, aircleaner installed



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #861, 06-27-2016 12:55 PM
      Its a good fit





Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #862, 06-29-2016 07:09 PM
      Got the new brake lines run and some other stuff hooked up here..............



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #863, 06-29-2016 07:13 PM
      passenger side brake lines, etc. coming together. Hooking up the oil lines, cooler lines......makin it neat





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #864, 06-29-2016 07:15 PM
      back on the ground and enough for today. Still need to bleed everything and make the connections on the inside.





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steve308 MSG #865, 06-29-2016 08:21 PM
      That is simply 'BAD ASS'.

engine man (fieroa8@gmail.com) MSG #866, 06-29-2016 09:08 PM
      Bozzie this car is just great and it was a honor to meet you and your dad today you are a gifted artist with automobiles

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #867, 06-30-2016 12:36 PM
      Why does the exhaust from the front bank route under the throttle body? Wouldn't it be better to go under the engine?

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #868, 06-30-2016 08:50 PM
      Looks really awesome, Bozzie.



Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #869, 07-02-2016 03:47 PM
      Thanks Steve for chiming in Mark, it was great meeting you , and checking out your swap for real !! It looks amazing , and sounds ridiculous !! Your REALLY making me think of the NEXT MOD !!!! One day we'll make a fun run together Amida, not sure why it goes that way , but there headers from ZZP for a grand prix, just happen to fit and works good with my setup. Plus there JET HOT coated and that really help contain the heat. Bob.....as always, thanks buddy. Between you and me and Neil, and Carlos, and Motoracer, and......... so many others, would be SO Cool, to get together one day and just shoot the breeze !!! Anyway, no car work this weekend for me, time to relax a bit with the family, thou my thoughts will be on the CAR !!! Have a AWESOME weekend and 4th EVERYONE !!

Boz

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ITALGT MSG #870, 07-02-2016 07:07 PM
      Bozzie... I don't know if this is intentional or not, but your project is sure looking a lot like a Koenig Competition Ferrari Testarossa.

Which is a very, very good thing if you ask me.

Keep up the good work, and have a happy and safe 4th!


engine man (fieroa8@gmail.com) MSG #871, 08-11-2016 12:12 PM
      Bozzie any updates

deloreanant MSG #872, 08-30-2016 10:09 PM
      Going to NEED an update. It's been almost two months!!!

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #873, 08-31-2016 07:06 PM
      Where does the time GO ?!!! And then especially the summer ! Im actually looking forward to the cooler weather as body work is back on the table. Its defiantly been awhile Mark and Jordan...... your right ! ITALGT, your right on the head with your assumption as ill show you the pic that changed how I see my car, like love at first sight, just had to have her




Alchemy will never be the same again ! This is the endgame



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #874, 08-31-2016 07:13 PM
      As everyone can see this is NOT a kit im building. It is like how Neils88 is going about his build. This is by far not exact. Just a lot of looking at pictures and perspectives of such that bring out the build. Building parts, liking them, hating them , redoing them, putting a picture together one panel at a time. Being im building a "replica" of the Koenig 512 Evolution I have looked at these cars and there different variations for awhile. Its pretty cool to see so many different versions, sometimes there just alittle different in there lines..... as Is my build. I hope everyone is enjoying watching as I enjoy watching there's as well. Everyone is a inspiration at some point and needs one at some point as well.

Boz



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #875, 08-31-2016 07:16 PM
      So after some planning of what I needed and awaiting parts, santa came early





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #876, 08-31-2016 07:18 PM
      I also tigged the wastegate inlet on.




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #877, 08-31-2016 07:20 PM
      Here the turbo is back on in its correct position. Badly needed new air cleaner .....old one had 2 yrs of body dust on it ! Power steering pump removed and awaiting its new home up front.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #878, 08-31-2016 07:23 PM
      Now for some turbo piping Ive been waiting for THIS ! Working on the far side mocking up the blow off valve and intake into the engine.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #879, 08-31-2016 07:25 PM
      Its a Tight fit. As more and more get crammed in. Ive always hated working in tight spaces, but loving these lil cars has changed that for me. The more mechanical the better !





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #880, 08-31-2016 07:26 PM
      Here the intermediate pipe between the intercoolers is installed. It has alittle bend to it but the couplers take that in well.




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #881, 08-31-2016 07:28 PM
      Now for the intake side of the intercoolers. I had to move a support for the lower diffuser to make this work. Its hard to just predict as things will go, theres always some change again and again till everything is mounted and routed.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #882, 08-31-2016 07:30 PM
      Xover pipe from the Turbo outlet on and figuring how to mount is solidly. I welded a tap in-between

the shock towers to clamp onto.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #883, 08-31-2016 07:32 PM
      Wastegate plumbed in and mounted. I'll vent this in-between

the exhaust tip later.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #884, 08-31-2016 07:33 PM
      Working my way around from the turbo to the inlet of the intercooler.








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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #885, 08-31-2016 07:36 PM
      Checking for clearances here. Its been awhile since ive had the hatch on and it feels good to see it on !






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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #886, 08-31-2016 07:38 PM
      Made a support for the turbo at the mount. Its SOLID !!





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #887, 08-31-2016 07:40 PM
      Finally getting around to the last part of the piping. Mounts moved out of the way. Ready to finish





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #888, 08-31-2016 07:42 PM
      So at this point it all comes apart, to clean it up and clean up some paint. Building a car you get used to doing this over and over !





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #889, 08-31-2016 07:43 PM
      And final assembly , back together






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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #890, 08-31-2016 07:46 PM
      Wiring some electrical underside. With the battery in the front this is my connection to the starter. Makes it easy to just unbolt the one wire going to it and power is disconnected. Ive made this cradle east to drop just in case






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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #891, 08-31-2016 07:48 PM
      I got in a universal 4" downpipe on a 90. Pretty unrestrictive



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #892, 08-31-2016 07:50 PM
      Well.....its supposed to be at a 90 degree. Looks like its alittle off ! Now I have to send it back and have it reworked. Time Time TIME !!! BUT building something one off is all about THAT ! BUMMER




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #893, 08-31-2016 07:51 PM
      MORE to come !


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steve308 MSG #894, 08-31-2016 08:34 PM
      Boozie, impressive to say the least ------ the only thing you haven't touched on is a fire suppression system. Did I miss it or are you going to build one in.

Remember -Carlisle is now mid June!


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #895, 09-02-2016 03:30 PM
      STEVE !!!!!! I TOTALY forgot about that Now that you mention it a Halon system wouldn't be a bad idea........You got my mind turning now ! And ....thanks for the heads up about Carlisle. Next year is defiantly in the books thou now I have a little less time than I thought. Hoping to bring 2 cars down..... Alchemy and a MYSTERY car .....Whooooo hahahahahahahah

Boz
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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #896, 09-02-2016 03:33 PM
      Hey Mark....Look Familiar ??? Im going to post a build on this soon. Going to restore her and turn it into a roller for sale.....with engine and transmission choices available......or not



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #897, 09-02-2016 03:50 PM
      Time for some heat wrap. I wrapped the downpipe and the intercooler coupler pipe. Cooler is KOOL !





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #898, 09-02-2016 03:52 PM
      Turbo blanket on. The hatch framing is on and and not painted.... .soon.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #899, 09-02-2016 03:56 PM
      I took the modified 4sp shifter out and got my 5sp shifter ready. Reverse lockout installed and welded in instead of bolted. Cables checked for fitment. Shifter feels MUCH better now. Tighter and easier to find reverse without hitting it over. The new Guru system uses a spring that you can adjust for pressure.


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #900, 09-02-2016 03:57 PM
      Shifter installed and cables adjusted and checked. This is a nice setup for a F40. Thanks Guru !

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #901, 09-02-2016 04:02 PM
      Time to attack the dogbone. With the cradle stretch it puts it pretty close to the strut crossover. The engine and tranny are solidly mounted so this will be as well. Using a Rodney solid dogbone I had previously on I only used one half of it.



Drilled a access hole on the opposite side of the mount

Then bolted the mount in

SOLID !!!!


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #902, 09-02-2016 04:06 PM
      Done for the day. Everything filled up, oil , coolant, intercooler , brakes bled and clutch bled. Ready for a fire up soon !





Tonight she has a sleepover



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Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #903, 09-03-2016 01:04 PM
      Wish I had sleepovers like that!!!

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #904, 09-04-2016 06:54 PM
      He77, that is one heck-of-an update. Looks great.

Bob




mr_corean MSG #905, 09-05-2016 02:03 PM
      Love the build Bozzie, I check the construction zone every time I'm on the site just to check it out.

A question for you. Why did you decide to run 2 intercoolers like that? Reason I ask is most twin intercooler setups are small side mounts from the factory that usually get replaced by a larger single FMIC that works better. The only other time you really see 2 intercoolers is when they are each cooling the air from seperate turbos. Not knocking, just curious.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #906, 09-05-2016 06:30 PM
      Hi Neil ! Yeah buddy. Was a super sweet car. If I had it longer .......and could get permission id pull a mold off of it !!! But she was in for a fiberglass subwoofer in the passenger footwell. I'll post pics soon !

Good to see you here RCR ! I had a buncha pics backed up, a few more to go and i'll be caught up....with the pics anyway, this build.....someday !! As I would love to get your car / Neils car and some others together someday !

Mr_Corean, Thanks SO MUCH ! Good so see you here and any questions are ALWAYS welcome.....thou yours might give away what my future plans might be !! Its kinda a loaded question. In the Northeast it can get hot and humid , thou not as much as the southern states ! Happiest time to drive is the spring and the fall or at night as the air is cooler and denser and you can feel the difference in power. Probably going overboard this engine is Liquid to Air intercooled under the intake / front mounted cooler , and Air to Air intercooled after the turbo as seen in the rear. Last time she was out the IAT temps were alittle higher than I wanted, especially under higher boost levels for a longer period of time..... hence what ive done to try to rectify it. I definatly could of gotten away with 1 intercooler in the back. The "original" Koenig Competition was twin turbo and dual intercooled.....makes sense as you stated. I twin intercooled this car because..... A...... I wanted it to be to true to the original , at least in that sense .....I might lose a few pounds of boost but the turbo is plenty big enough to make up the difference..... and..... B....... in the back of my head as my mind is always thinking what I can do next......maybe.......just MAYBE..... id love to do a longitudinal setup with dual smaller turbos ......guess I might be on this build for AWHILE longer !!


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #907, 09-05-2016 06:39 PM
      Not that this has anything to do with Alchemy , its a KOOL car and we were commissioned to build a fiberglass enclosure for it to make her BANG So here's alittle about that
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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #908, 09-05-2016 06:41 PM
      Here we started out with making the rear of the enclosure. Made it out of MDF because its mostly all right angles on the floor.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #909, 09-05-2016 06:43 PM
      Then using a 10" MDF "ring" we mounted it and spread over the enclosure "fleece" and stapled it tight. Just sitting here for now checking for fitment.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #910, 09-05-2016 06:45 PM
      Looking good so far its time to get DIRTY and glass'er up ! Also laid up a few layers of cloth to stiffen it up......Here drying



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #911, 09-05-2016 06:48 PM
      When its dry we cut the hole out for the sub , ruff sanded it down a bit and cleaned it up. Back to test fitting to make sure it fits the way its supposed to





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #912, 09-05-2016 06:50 PM
      Allz good so time for some finish work, black carpet to match.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #913, 09-05-2016 06:51 PM
      Sub in and mounted BOOM !!





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #914, 09-05-2016 06:54 PM
      Now this is done .....back to the build !





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mr_corean MSG #915, 09-06-2016 09:43 AM
      You've got an a2w one as well? Looking at the pictures I see piping from the cold side of the turbo going to the right a2a then left a2a before it disappears up in to the engine area. If I'm understanding correctly you have that going up to an a2w and then intake?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #916, 09-06-2016 02:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mr_corean:

You've got an a2w one as well? Looking at the pictures I see piping from the cold side of the turbo going to the right a2a then left a2a before it disappears up in to the engine area. If I'm understanding correctly you have that going up to an a2w and then intake?


Dont want to hijack but for info: the WA intercoolers for the 3800 were originally designed to be sandwiched between the supercharger and lower intake. They can still be used with a turbo setup by gutting the blower rotors or replacing the blower with a normal NA intake. So I guess Bozzie's setup is: turbo-AA-AA-TB-upper intake-WA-lower intake- etc..


mr_corean MSG #917, 09-06-2016 03:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Dont want to hijack but for info: the WA intercoolers for the 3800 were originally designed to be sandwiched between the supercharger and lower intake. They can still be used with a turbo setup by gutting the blower rotors or replacing the blower with a normal NA intake. So I guess Bozzie's setup is: turbo-AA-AA-TB-upper intake-WA-lower intake- etc..


Oh, the stock w2a. That makes sense. What kind of pressure drop off do you think you're getting with all these intercoolers? BTW, I was kind of thinking you were eventually going to go twin turbo with the 2 a2a coolers how you have them set up. I think that would be completely badas5!


Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #918, 09-07-2016 07:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bozzie:

Hi Neil ! Yeah buddy. Was a super sweet car. If I had it longer .......and could get permission id pull a mold off of it !!! But she was in for a fiberglass subwoofer in the passenger footwell. I'll post pics soon !

Good to see you here RCR ! I had a buncha pics backed up, a few more to go and i'll be caught up....with the pics anyway, this build.....someday !! As I would love to get your car / Neils car and some others together someday !

Mr_Corean, Thanks SO MUCH ! Good so see you here and any questions are ALWAYS welcome.....thou yours might give away what my future plans might be !! Its kinda a loaded question. In the Northeast it can get hot and humid , thou not as much as the southern states ! Happiest time to drive is the spring and the fall or at night as the air is cooler and denser and you can feel the difference in power. Probably going overboard this engine is Liquid to Air intercooled under the intake / front mounted cooler , and Air to Air intercooled after the turbo as seen in the rear. Last time she was out the IAT temps were alittle higher than I wanted, especially under higher boost levels for a longer period of time..... hence what ive done to try to rectify it. I definatly could of gotten away with 1 intercooler in the back. The "original" Koenig Competition was twin turbo and dual intercooled.....makes sense as you stated. I twin intercooled this car because..... A...... I wanted it to be to true to the original , at least in that sense .....I might lose a few pounds of boost but the turbo is plenty big enough to make up the difference..... and..... B....... in the back of my head as my mind is always thinking what I can do next......maybe.......just MAYBE..... id love to do a longitudinal setup with dual smaller turbos ......guess I might be on this build for AWHILE longer !!


Bozzie! Just checked....you're only about 7 hours away, and live less than an hour from my friend Glenn (also building the same kit as me). I'll definitely be up for a road trip when I'm done....

With respect to the twin intercoolers, I'm actually putting two in the same spot. Of course mine initially are for a slightly different reason...I need to visually block to opening in front of the rear grills. Without the intercoolers there will be framework visible. Eventually I'll have the new engine with twin turbos (phase III of the project) and the intercoolers will be in the correct position with excellent airflow...but for now...who's gonna know...


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #919, 09-18-2016 08:16 PM
      Fie Ro ., you are correct. The W2A is under the intake. Ive always had this cooler and its needed also for the spacing between the intake and the header crossover. Intake is custom Stattma.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #920, 09-18-2016 08:21 PM
      Neil , Thanks for chiming in ! 7hrs is Nothing That would be great to meet up, I think a few builds might be drivable within each other. Does Glenn have a build on here ? Its great to know there are builds not far from me. Your making me Jealous with your stage 3 Plans ! Building ahead for those plans is defiantly a time saver. Twin A2A Coolers are COOL


Boz


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #921, 09-18-2016 08:30 PM
      With GREAT Wonderment and Pride , Alchemy feels the Sun in her glass for the 1st time in almost 2yrs. !! With all fluids checked , she fired right up and gave me the shivers as I let the clutch out and rolled her out.










Now to get busy with the body exhaust, interior and misc

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #922, 09-18-2016 08:51 PM
      With her back inside time to work on the hatch. I took it off and cleaned it up.





Put some primer on it


and then some paint



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #923, 09-18-2016 08:54 PM
      While that was drying I started sanding the underside of the wing down.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #924, 09-18-2016 08:57 PM
      After sanding I noticed a few flaws, here is one of them and how i'll fix it.



first I cleaned it up and ground it open and tapered the sides





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #925, 09-18-2016 09:00 PM
      Masking the area off and cut a few strips of mold fabric. I'll poke them in with a little flathead.



After soaking them in resin I poked a few in and then laid one on the top to dry

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #926, 09-18-2016 09:01 PM
      When dry I sanded it down. SOLID

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #927, 09-18-2016 09:03 PM
      Hatch is now dry so I put it back on for good


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #928, 09-18-2016 09:06 PM
      Experimenting a little here on a cowl idea. Not sure yet what I think. Im thinking of building a cowl for stock fiero's using a vent like this to hide the wipers. Hmmmmm.....





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Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #929, 09-19-2016 06:16 PM
     
 
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Neil , Thanks for chiming in ! 7hrs is Nothing That would be great to meet up, I think a few builds might be drivable within each other. Does Glenn have a build on here ? Its great to know there are builds not far from me. Your making me Jealous with your stage 3 Plans ! Building ahead for those plans is defiantly a time saver. Twin A2A Coolers are COOL

Boz


Bozzie...your build continues to look fantastic! Closer and closer every day!

Glenn doesn't have a build on PFF, though he does read and post here. His build is on a tube frame chassis and documented on MadMechanics


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #930, 10-02-2016 05:23 PM
      Thanks Neils88 ^^^^^^^^^^^ . Every little thing is one less to do, can spend a day on a 2ft sq. section , as im sure you know about that , as well as Bob and MANY others !!! I'll check out that build on Mechanics !


Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #931, 10-02-2016 05:25 PM
      Continuing on here. Now that I can bring her outside ive noticed that the vacuum doesn't build up fast enough for the brakes. So I got in a CVR vacuum pump. This should solve it.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #932, 10-02-2016 05:28 PM
      Mounted this Puppy here. Somehow I have to put the MR2 pump in here as well later. Nother problem another day. Wired it up with ignition. It takes about 30sec. to get to 15hg of vacuum. Figured it will give me time to check over everything ever time I start her. Not a bad thing to do anyway. The more that goes into her the more patient you get and rushing is not a option ...even driving .....someday




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #933, 10-02-2016 05:33 PM
      Problems never end till ya fix em' ! Ive always had a issue with the drain back from the turbo to the oil pan. Under hard acceleration the oil sloshs to the rear and that's where the turbo drain goes. Its as high as I could get it. Well...... that's the end of that. Sick of having blow by and smoke coming out the exhaust ! Mounted a RB Racing scavenge pump just under and forward of the turbo. Its pricey but worth it. Helicut gears are QUIET.... not that it matters but it lasts longer to Plumed it the valve cover. Also wired it to a relay with a delayed OFF so it runs for a extra 25 seconds. This pretty much finishes off all the pressure in the line.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #934, 10-02-2016 05:34 PM
      Plumed to the valve cover.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #935, 10-02-2016 05:37 PM
      Its geat to make body parts removable. Something I didn't think of in my first build but now its gods rule Running some wires for the taillights and markers. These will have plugs on them to make it easy to remove anytime. All wires wrapped in Tessa Tape....great stuff !!



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #936, 10-10-2016 07:53 PM
      Multitasking a lot now. Makes things go faster as it comes together, feels like 2nd gear of the build now

Working on the side skirts here. Got some 1x8" boards to mock it up. Used a table saw to cut the angles and glue them together.


The main top area, cut on a angle to go with the door bottom. Clamped it in place and moving onto the next.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #937, 10-10-2016 07:56 PM
      I cut the front area on a 30degree angle and glued it together. The bottom of the new sill is cut to match. All nailed and glued. I'll sand it down abit later. The rear part of the rocker will be built later when Alchemy goes for a alignment so I can put it where it needs to be, as for now I have no idea where that is ! For now time to build the exact opposite for the passenger side.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #938, 10-10-2016 07:58 PM
      Rocker # 1



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #939, 10-10-2016 08:00 PM
      Took the headlight doors off for now. Contemplating another mod. The Koenig Evolution has dual 4x6 lights with plexi covers. Gonna just let this sit so I can wrap my head around making them



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #940, 10-10-2016 08:01 PM
      Fooling with the exhaust now. The downpipe is 4" so I need a few parts to convert this to a dual 3" tip.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #941, 10-10-2016 08:03 PM
      Couple of Stainless bends, a 3 to 4" adaptor and a dual 3" collector to be used for my " tip"





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davylong86 MSG #942, 10-10-2016 08:55 PM
      This is one car I must see in person one day. Looking great Bozzie!

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #943, 10-13-2016 07:54 PM
      Hey Davy ! Thanks for chiming in Absolutely your welcome anytime

Boz

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #944, 10-13-2016 07:58 PM
      Back to the Exhaust. I took the 180degree 4" pipe and trimmed it to angle toward the rear off the 4" downpipe. There is NO muffler. I had one on this before but with a turbo it already quiets it down abit.....and since this is definatly not a daily driver and everything else is already loud, I figured why bother Put the rear bumper back on to align the tip.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #945, 10-13-2016 08:00 PM
      Trimmed down the downpipe a few inch's and welded the curved section on. Here im aligning the tip to be welded.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #946, 10-13-2016 08:03 PM
      Tip is where I want it and now to weld that together. Later on i'll cut the tip shorter at 90 degrees to the ground and then flip the excess that I cut over and reweld it to it so it actually faces straight back



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #947, 10-13-2016 08:05 PM
      BLAM ! Done for now. I will wrap it with heat wrap soon. Its pretty loud, but then again its loud just sitting still




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #948, 10-13-2016 08:08 PM
      Done for the day and back to her "spot" Next up is glassing in the plugs I made for the sills.

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engine man (fieroa8@gmail.com) MSG #949, 10-13-2016 08:14 PM
      Looking good keep up the great work


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #950, 10-14-2016 04:45 AM
      Sick talent ! 👍

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #951, 10-14-2016 07:21 PM
      Great Googily moogily, she's sinister and beautiful. Great job.

Bob


Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #952, 10-14-2016 11:42 PM
     
 
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Boz, your car continues to amaze! I can't wait to see the new rocker panels.


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #953, 10-23-2016 08:38 PM
      Thank you Mark , Bob and Neil for chiming in Its coming together much quicker now. Love the accelerated pace ! And without Further ad'u ......


Left and right rockers :




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #954, 10-23-2016 08:40 PM
      Coated them with masking tape , which also formed the "boxed" end of the front of the rocker. This is where the upright of the lower rear front fender will attach to. Its crude but simple:


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #955, 10-23-2016 08:43 PM
      The rockers will be in 2 parts finally joining as 1. Because the rear is not aligned yet / after the stretch , I cannot judge where the rear part of the rocker is supposed to be. It will also transition into a 90degree vertical rocker from the 30degree one shown here. Here it is with 3 layers of glass





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #956, 10-23-2016 08:45 PM
      The last layer of glass I added some black gelcoat to the mixture. When I sand this down it will be easier to see the high / low spots.

Here's the pair drying :

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #957, 10-23-2016 08:49 PM
      After it dried I took a DA with 36grit paper and knocked the high spots down. Its pretty smooth for now. Later i'll duraglass it and get it straight. For now I just want to make the pieces and do all the finish work later Here it is after I popped it out.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #958, 10-23-2016 08:53 PM
      After some trimming around the edges shes done for now. Next step is making a steel frame for it to mount to.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #959, 10-23-2016 09:05 PM
      In addition to the obvious eye candy, this thread is a treasure trove of how to's in terms of fiberglassing and fabrication. Bozzie did you have much fiberglass experience prior to this build ?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #960, 11-07-2016 07:17 PM
      Tony, thank you for your insight on the build. You've been great from day one when I was just a "newbie" Ive always been a "mcgyver" type. Before Fiero's I was mostly into fabrication with electronics, metals, plastics and some fiberglass, nothing like the extent this build is taking. BUT, with lots of trial and error, redo's and failure , this project is coming true. I must say, that there are many on here that have inspired me, and sometimes kept me going on. There is a lot behind the scenes here, happiness, frustration, anger and anticipation. Its just amazing what you can do to these little cars. How you can create with your mind, and apply. How a dream can be made real in a sense that otherwise would not be possible to buy. Like all the different ways people are changing or restoring these cars. Like how I fell in love with the Koenig 512evalution and never looked back. I keep a pic in my office that I look at involuntary all the time and when I look at my car I tweek it just a little bit more I hope that those who see the builds on here take it as I did, as nothing is impossible, and patience is defiantly a virtue

Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #961, 11-07-2016 07:21 PM
      Now back to some ROCKERS With the parts made its time to make some supports. I started with 1x1" square tube. Cutting them to size and welding them up.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #962, 11-07-2016 07:23 PM
      This is the top part of the rockers in the same shape. I'll weld this to the car later.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #963, 11-07-2016 07:24 PM
      Fits right into the rocker Now to make the bottom support


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #964, 11-07-2016 07:26 PM
      Here you see the bottom support welded up. This way ill attach the bottom and the top to make a solid mount. Don't want this thing flapping around !!





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #965, 11-07-2016 07:27 PM
      Heres the support ready to weld up. I shimmed it up and made a nice tight gap to the door. Time to make it official



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #966, 11-07-2016 07:29 PM
      Welded up and time to slide the thing on





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #967, 11-07-2016 07:32 PM
      BOOM





Now to replicate this to the passenger side. As I said before the rocker will be 2 pieces bonded into 1 later after the alignment for proper placement.


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #968, 11-07-2016 07:59 PM
      Roller her outside for a look. She's sagging just alittle in the rear, i'll crank the coilovers up about a half a inch later





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #969, 11-07-2016 08:01 PM
      After a Long day the passenger side is done. As am I Next step is to work on the front of the rocker as it meets the fender. For now, she goes back in her spot.

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Blacktree (m.blacktree@gmail.com) MSG #970, 11-07-2016 10:37 PM
      It's been awhile since I checked this thread and... OMG this build REALLY took off!

I don't really know what to say... totally speechless.


ITALGT MSG #971, 11-08-2016 08:12 PM
      The proportions look amazing on this car. Very nice Bozzie. Very, very nice.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #972, 11-09-2016 12:00 AM
      Drooling ! Just wow,..wow !!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #973, 11-16-2016 09:59 PM
      Boz any chance you bring this beauty down for Daytona in March ? What color ? Red ?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #974, 11-18-2016 08:20 PM
      Thanks for chiming in Blacktree She's got awhile to go but many changes to come ! ITALGT...... I really appreciate your comment. Many hrs were spent on paper and in my head trying to get the Proportions RIGHT..... and then changes to get them there on the car. Glad you noticed and are liking it..... Means ALOT ! Tony, ohhhh MAN... DAYTONA ?! Would LOVE to bring her down there, and get to meet YOU in person ! March is cutting it but we'll see. Definatly Carlisle and hoping to goto Detroit for the cruise there. As for the color ???? Well..... she'll sit in flat black primer for awhile as she cures and cracks and whatevers ...... but its either Lipstick RED or a deep BLUE like In the actual one I modeled her off of a few pages back. Time will tell. For now, back to the build !!!


Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #975, 11-18-2016 08:24 PM
      Off topic of this build but just picked up THIS puppy Going to play with her for awhile and see what I can make of it Widebody guys and standard GT's looking for a better solution msg me your interests !





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #976, 11-18-2016 08:27 PM
      Working on the fenders AGAIN ! Now with the sills mockup up I can finialize the lower rear fender. 1st off is the top rear part of the fender where it meets the door. There is alittle more room here so i'll add some meet.




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #977, 11-18-2016 08:31 PM
      Using some taped up cardboard I applied it to the inside to make a form for the glasswork. Its a lot longer then it will need to be so I don't make that much of a mess when I glass it, that way I can trim what I don't need.

2 layers of glass for now.


While this was drying I made a sheet of 3 layer. This will be cut later for the lower area.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #978, 11-18-2016 08:34 PM
      When dried I trimmed it out. Its pretty close now so I'll put a few layers ontop of the whole.




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #979, 11-18-2016 08:35 PM
      Sanded and trimmed. Now for the bottom section

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #980, 11-18-2016 08:36 PM
      That sheet I made up I cut and here getting it trimmed to fit.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #981, 11-18-2016 08:37 PM
      Trimmed up close for now. Still mocking it up.




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #982, 11-18-2016 08:41 PM
      Now I have to get the upper fender to be secure and land in the same spot when I close the hood. This way I can make the lower section to match. So.......using the mount I welded on before I drilled a 1/4" hole in it to weld a pin in.




I ground the top rounded so it wont bind. Then welded it in. Then I bonded a piece of aluminum to the inside of the fender and drilled a hole for the pin to go into.


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #983, 11-18-2016 08:42 PM
      Here the hood is closed and fender is on the pin, locking it in place.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #984, 11-18-2016 08:44 PM
      I then bonded the lower piece to the rocker where it needed to be. I'll make a mount for the top part of the lower section to be mounted to the support the pin is welded to later.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #985, 11-18-2016 08:47 PM
      The hood hinge as I made it I can actually lift the hood up and over and set it down on the floor, making the front VERY accessible. Time to remove those flip up headlights ive loved for SO many years




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #986, 11-18-2016 08:55 PM
      Mocked up for now and outside for a look




I'm VERY happy to get to this point..... as with most points.... BUT with the nose mocked up and rockers, its time to move to the rear. But I cant do this until I get her lined up. This car has been cut in half , sectioned, stretched, chopped , and re'framed. Getting her straight is a big question mark, and super important with the drivability and fitment of the rear quarters and squareness of the body. Now i'll bring her in , take off most of the body parts and get her ready for a trip to the nearest performance alignment shop. Last alignment was at a tire shop, this time its at a race car shop. Stay TUNED !

Boz


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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #987, 11-19-2016 09:26 PM
     
 
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Great stuff, Boz. I wanna see how you keep the panels translucent so the lights shine through. That looks really cool.

Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #988, 11-28-2016 06:47 PM
      That's FUNNY Bob !!! ^^^^^^^^ I thought the SAME thing when I saw the light come thru Sometimes when im working on a panel i'll put a bright light behind it to really see it. If ONLY to not have to paint it and just put a light behind it .....Hmmmmmm.......

Boz



Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #989, 11-28-2016 06:51 PM
      Its just one of those nights where im just STARING at this thing........thinking.........before I get DIRTY with it





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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #990, 11-29-2016 08:58 AM
      Can't wait to see what you come up with !

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #991, 12-06-2016 05:41 PM
      Sometimes it happens. Never thought it could to me but here's my "barn find" fiero. 1988 GT all optioned out / Saddle leather / premium sound / rear defrost / 5 speed / all power, wing and trunk lid are off. This baby has been sitting in a warehouse for the last 20 years. Just DIRTY from sitting. Interior dirty but as new.... amazingly 21000 miles !!!! Stay tuned for the cleaning





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Car-Lo MSG #992, 12-07-2016 12:58 AM
      Great barn find Bozzie, so that's what a Fiero looks like

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #993, 12-08-2016 10:06 AM
      FUNNY Carlo ! Thanks...... and There actually not so bad looking

Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #994, 12-08-2016 10:39 AM
      Doing just a little spot here , couldn't help myself Its like opening up a xmas gift SLOWWWWWWLY !!


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Sudic (masonmccargish@gmail.com) MSG #995, 12-11-2016 10:00 PM
     
 
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Sometimes it happens. Never thought it could to me but here's my "barn find" fiero. 1988 GT all optioned out / Saddle leather / premium sound / rear defrost / 5 speed / all power, wing and trunk lid are off. This baby has been sitting in a warehouse for the last 20 years. Just DIRTY from sitting. Interior dirty but as new.... amazingly 21000 miles !!!! Stay tuned for the cleaning

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It reminds me of when I first got my dirty Fiero!

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #996, 12-14-2016 06:36 PM
      Love the White Sudic !


Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #997, 12-14-2016 06:40 PM
      Well......I didn't have room to keep her inside for the winter at the shop so I brought her home. Spent some time cleaning her up. Its the 1st cleaning so it took ALOT of time but i'll clean her again later and get more detailed. For now she sits, later i'll put her on stands and detail the underside.





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davylong86 MSG #998, 12-21-2016 10:42 AM
      Wow! That cleaned up really nice. Does it run as good as it looks? Great find Boz

deloreanant MSG #999, 02-23-2017 07:29 PM
      Bozzie, I sure hope you're ok. I haven't heard from you in a long while and there has been no update to your thread.

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1000, 03-27-2017 05:03 PM
      Well......its defiantly been awhile here for sure on my posts. Winter time is a busy time of year for me with my job. BUT...... its time to jump back on the horse here Ive been working on my barnyard find a lot at the house. Davy, in regards to it running as good as it looks well....it doesn't As with this car only having 21k on it its still a 30yr old car. Seals are dried out, tank gas turned to junk, mice tearing thru her and just normal decay from the years. Ive pulled her interior out and started the cleaning. I'll post later on this. Ive also come across the Fi Er O over the roof scoups that im planning on tweeking them alittle to fit better and make available. Also still working on the 430 rear bumper. Never enough time ! Jordan !, yes buddy all is good. thank you ! I hope the same for YOU ! As I left Alchemy off in December she next needed a alignment. So I pulled her panels off and on the trailer she went. She's wide and barely fit ! Here we go on the trailer





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1001, 03-27-2017 05:06 PM
     


Now off to get her STRAIGHT !


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1002, 03-27-2017 05:09 PM
      After a half hour ride I took her off the trailer. There was a Camaro doing a dyno run next to the alignment rack so it was pretty cool to see that ! Plus, everyone was wondering what the heck my car was





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1003, 03-27-2017 05:14 PM
      So on the rack she goes. The tech didn't want to mess with loading her on the lift so I helped make sure she was lifted correctly. Was neat to see her finally getting to this point. On the rack and getting some love. Curious to see how far off she is. Hopefully not to bad !!!




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1004, 03-27-2017 05:17 PM
      Well.....she was off alittle but all in all not so bad. Took about 2hrs to dial her in the way I wanted, but plenty of room to get her within spec's. Im totally happy with the day and now I can finally move on with the build. More to come


Boz


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1005, 03-27-2017 05:20 PM
      My bare bones T Top car I got from Mark I got off the trailer and put her on stands in the driveway. But with winter I wanted to move it and not put her on the ground. I totally plan to bring her back. So with the help of a small boat trailer I cranked her up and put her on. Now I can just wheel her in when I want to work on her and then put her back outside when im done. I thought this was pretty neat. Hears a pic
On stands.... not so easy to work on



Totally portable now



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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #1006, 03-30-2017 07:47 PM
      Great to see you back at it. Look forward to this year's progress.

Bob


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #1007, 04-14-2017 10:37 PM
      Boz, What's up bud ? How is that 430 rear bumper design coming along ? Any sneak peek ?

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engine man (fieroa8@gmail.com) MSG #1008, 04-15-2017 07:39 PM
      Hi Boz i see you are making some progress on your car and my old T top is in good hands i can't wait to see what more body mods you have for all of us to see

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1009, 04-22-2017 05:19 PM
      Hey Bob....great to be back on here posting ! Been a long winter. Now to check out Yours and Neils and a buncha others and how there coming Tony.... the 430 bumper is coming along. Im Working on one for a factory replacement and for a widebody......pics to come. Mark, your car is coming along AWESOME ! I see PAINT ! that's such a great stage to be in......now I gotta plan a visit For now ive been working on some over the roof scoups. These I plan to bring to market as well. Teaser pic





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ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #1010, 04-24-2017 02:27 PM
      oh man check out all of those 3800 goodies

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1011, 04-27-2017 05:33 PM
      Prodigy.....been saving up and collecting parts for the restoration of my barn find. All new suspension , coilovers , brake / clutch lines, sandblasting the front xover and rebuild. Thou it only has 21k on it , its the non driving of the car that does the most damage. oh.....and a intercooled 3800 supercharged conversion Then she'll go up for sale for the next build .......

Here she is taking the interior apart /, putting in door seals in and tint



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1012, 04-27-2017 05:36 PM
      Took the seats and carpet out for cleaning and new carpet later. Also removed the rear backboard and will recarpet that as well. Door panels off and working on re greasing the door rollers and checking the wiring and making sure everything works as it should



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1013, 04-27-2017 05:40 PM
      Took out the spare tire / tub and removing all the brake and clutch lines.... going stainless. Also removed the radiator / going champion and headlights / going 90mm . Replacing the brake booster with a s10 and adaptor from Rodney, and new clutch master. Also going to clean up and repaint all the wheel wells / under body and front compartments.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1014, 04-27-2017 05:45 PM
      Back on Alchemy again its Rear Quarter time Been WAITING for this for awhile. Now that things are squared up I can make these straight. Step 1 was to make some flat glass plates. 1 layer of glass makes these thing wicked flexable. This will then be formed into what will be the quarters. Plates.....



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1015, 04-27-2017 05:47 PM
      Heres the plate up against the car. I'll trim this and then support it in the areas to form the shape. More to come

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Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #1016, 04-27-2017 10:12 PM
      Can't wait to see the fenders take shape Boz!

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #1017, 04-28-2017 12:56 PM
     
 
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Can't wait to see the fenders take shape Boz!


^^^ What he said.

Bob


nosrac MSG #1018, 05-03-2017 11:07 AM
     
 
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I'm in. Where do you find the time to do all this awesome $h!t??


TXOPIE (tx.opie@gmail.com) MSG #1019, 05-03-2017 02:57 PM
     
 
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I'm in. Where do you find the time to do all this awesome $h!t??


Yes...what Terrance said!


Spadesluck MSG #1020, 05-06-2017 01:20 PM
      Very cool project. Out of curiosity, how much does your own made body panels weigh compared to the stock plastic pieces?

Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1021, 05-07-2017 07:42 PM
      Hey Neil n Bob. Fenderz are a com'in along...pics to come SOON !! Nosrac n Txopie .....well...... a divorce actually helps free up some time , not to mention a ka'zillion late nights and off weekends as I know you all can attest to Spadesluck.... that's a real good question. I think some panels are lighter and some are alittle heavier depending on what section. The rear hatch with the inner and outer panels isn't exactly light. I know Ive added some weight here and there....but ive cut out a lot as well. Once its don't i'll have her weighted and get the figures in. Im thinking it should be pretty close to if not under 3K pounds.....hopefully !!!
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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1022, 05-22-2017 03:27 PM
      Time sure does fly when your not paying attention.....or maybe im just getting older ? !!! So....back to the quarters Just aligning it now with the rear quarter area behind the tire and clamping it solid. I shimmed it with a block to make it cover the area needed here. Man....it kinda looks good already !



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1023, 05-22-2017 03:30 PM
      Now ruff cutting the wheel opening. This will probable change a few times !





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1024, 05-22-2017 03:32 PM
      Jumping a few steps here. I cut the opening for the cooler and trimmed the top of the fender. Also added small pieces to the top edge on a angle. These I quick glued in to hold it for now. Because this is 1 layer of glass it pretty much formed to the shape as I put it up. Hard to see but it does flow pretty well , its not just a straight panel on the side. Maybe later i'll add a slight lip to the top where the wheel well area is.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1025, 05-22-2017 03:34 PM
      another shot at it with the glue dried and it holding itself together for a look.



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1026, 05-22-2017 03:36 PM
      Being im building the fender to size I can dub it out right onto the tire width. I think it has a nice stance to it



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1027, 05-22-2017 03:41 PM
      In this pic you'll see a few areas of black behind the glass. These are areas ive reinforced with Aluminum bonded to the glass to hold the shape and reinforce the fender. I'll also use these points to mount the lower rockers and the fenders to the car as well.





You can also see how the rocker meets the quarter area. There is a angle here for which i'll make the rear part of the rocker and then bond it to it to form the right shape later.





Next is to sand this all down and do a few layers of glass to bond it all together as one. It will also bond the rear taillight area as well as make the form for under the wing. More to come !
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DeLorean00 (twincam18@aol.com) MSG #1028, 05-22-2017 04:15 PM
      You are amazing! I really love your build. You have so much talent and a great eye for design.

engine man (fieroa8@gmail.com) MSG #1029, 05-22-2017 07:54 PM
      looking great

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #1030, 05-23-2017 08:43 AM
     


Great stuff, Boz.

Bob


David Hambleton (david.hambleton@cogeco.ca) MSG #1031, 05-23-2017 09:04 PM
     
 
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Link needed an s in east.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1032, 05-28-2017 10:11 PM
      Thanks for the kind words of inspiration and the "correction" fingers working to fast Back to the quarters ! Now to get MESSY. Taped off the floor and areas not to be glassed here.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1033, 05-28-2017 10:12 PM
      3 Layers which equals about a 1/8" of glass all around. With this I bonded the rear quarter area and upper quarter / taillight panel together. I"ll slice the seam open after its all sanded down so it lines up good. I also added some material to the lower spoiler where it meets the fender so it blends in. Unlike my past build all the panels are removable ! I'll get to the inside of this later



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1034, 05-28-2017 10:16 PM
      I made a plug for the lower rear rockers. I angled both sides the right degree so i'll cut this in half and have both sides later



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1035, 05-28-2017 10:18 PM
      Here it is ruff sanded. Seam for the rear quarter not cut just yet. I did cut out 4 vents in the rear. Factory vents varied from 3 to 4 vents, thanks RCR for your input before



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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1036, 05-28-2017 10:20 PM
      Now to attach the rear lower rocker. I cut the mold in half and sized it to fit. It will be bonded to the front rocker half and attached to the aluminum braces I bonded to the lower quarter.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1037, 05-28-2017 10:22 PM
      Here it is bonded to the rocker. As with the forward rocker I have it sticking out past the body about 3/8" . It gives it alitlle definition. Some blending later.




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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1038, 05-28-2017 10:25 PM
      Now for the passenger side. The oil cooler stuck out about a inch to far so I had to move it in. My luck that there wasn't a inch available so , whats not seen here is the 3 hrs of moving things around and welding to get that lousy inch !


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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1039, 05-28-2017 10:27 PM
      Replicating the passenger rear quarter. Time consuming here as going back and forth with measurments. The 1st one is easy in comparison. Tacked on and sanded.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1040, 05-28-2017 10:29 PM
      3 Layers again. Feels good to get to this point as this is pretty much the last big piece I needed to make.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1041, 05-28-2017 10:31 PM
      Here you can see how I glassed under the wing and how it flows to the rear.





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1042, 05-28-2017 10:33 PM
      With the hatch back down, checking clearances and trimming and sanding time.



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RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #1043, 05-29-2017 08:28 AM
      The quality of work, and the speed by which you achieve it is truely amazing. Awesome stuff.

Bob


Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1044, 06-10-2017 08:41 PM
      As always .. thank YOU Bob. It gets CRAZY when you get on a roll and Hrs just pass on by like nothing ! One reason I don't have a clock in the shop.....I guess why in a casino there is no windows to the outside....so you never can tell how long your there. I truly appreciate your input

Boz

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1045, 06-10-2017 08:45 PM
      Back to the grind here. ALOT of sanding here. just sanding and sanding and well.....filling and sanding ! Just going from the left to the right side and checking for symmetry. This is where time stands still as hrs of work doesn't look like much. I'll be happy when this part is done and I can finally get to smoothing it out....which goes MUCH faster





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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #1046, 06-10-2017 08:47 PM
      Here the side scoop was about a 3/8 " higher on the passenger side, so I cut it and moved it down. I'll have to fix the underside of this scoop as well later....as I wanted it curved under and I was alittle off on this side.