Ferrario Progress
Topic started by: whadeduck, Date: 02-10-2007 08:09 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000117.html


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #1, 02-10-2007 08:09 PM
      Got everything loosely mocked up on the Ferrario. Still have much to do. Lots of filling and sanding. But I can use these pictures as motivation. Could someone maybe be so kind as to photoshop it in Corsa Rosa Red to really get me motivated? That'd be suuuuuper. I haven't done any of the suspension work to it yet. I plan to have it sitting one to two inches lower than now. Whatdy'all think so far? Be gentle.





PaulJK MSG #2, 02-10-2007 08:59 PM
      Looks pretty good to me, so far. Why do you call it ferrario - looks like you're doing a GT ?

You might try JCWhitney for lowering springs - their prices seem OK, but watch out for the shipping charges.

Also, might be a good time to consider a t-top instal

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 02-10-2007).]

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #3, 02-10-2007 09:04 PM
      very nice man... i could do a lowering in photoshop but my rgb colors are not working for some reason.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #4, 02-10-2007 09:23 PM
      I call it a Ferrario because it's a blend of a 355 and a Fiero. Not trying to fool anyone. Just kind of wanted my own thing. Here's the real thing.


and here's my car. With the nose, the side scoops and skirts, round tail lights, and lip spoiler, the style is similar.


Already have cut front springs (the cardboard box near the front wheels) and Rodney's one-inch lowering balljoints for the front and coil overs for the back.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #5, 02-10-2007 09:40 PM
      if you want it lower let me know...


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #6, 02-10-2007 09:42 PM
      I think that's about right. Thanks. I'm using the same setup that Zoom88 uses on his formula. His suspension setup was the inspiration.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #7, 02-10-2007 09:52 PM
      sorry i tried doing the color for you but it didn't work... i guess i really need to learn how to use photochop. if you wanna buy me the photochop 8.0sc for dummies i'll get to reading and applying.

sostock MSG #8, 02-10-2007 09:52 PM
      looks good to me.

are you going to keep it wingless? for some reason a lot of the fastbacks look better w/o. i didn't always think that either. oops that is a little fella back there. coudln't see it well. doh.

[This message has been edited by sostock (edited 02-10-2007).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #9, 02-10-2007 10:01 PM
      Not a wing so to speak. But SAGE made this great lip spoiler that I'm going to mold to the back. For now, it's just held in place with masking tape.



DRA (fierorulz@yahoo.com) MSG #10, 02-10-2007 10:02 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by sostock:

looks good to me.

are you going to keep it wingless? for some reason a lot of the fastbacks look better w/o. i didn't always think that either. oops that is a little fella back there. coudln't see it well. doh.



Yep, looks like he has a lip spoiler in the mockup, so Richard have you started glassing that in yet?

Like the look, will definately be a looker when it's finished! So after the looks get taken care of are there any plans to back up the looks? May I suggest a 3800SC, would make a great finishing touch.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #11, 02-10-2007 10:19 PM
      Already have a 3800sc and a Getrag in the future plans. Gotta get the other parts of it finished first though. Thought about buying a 3800sc off of eBay but decided not to so I can finish other projects before adding others on.



FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #12, 02-10-2007 10:37 PM
      if founds allow i would recommend buying the 355 nose Fiero1Fan has available, I has a much nicer slope to it and inst as long.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #13, 02-10-2007 10:53 PM
      I would have had I not have already bought the one from Fiero Warehouse by the time Fiero1Fan made his stuff available. I did get the scoops and side skirts from him though.



F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #14, 02-10-2007 11:59 PM
      Personally, I'm not too crazy about the paint scheme, but that's just me.

sostock MSG #15, 02-11-2007 12:32 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:

Personally, I'm not too crazy about the paint scheme, but that's just me.


its called calico.


BobadooFunk (bobadoofunk@gmail.com) MSG #16, 02-11-2007 01:20 AM
      its EXTREMELY hard to do a paint scheme on a multi color body...

but i cant wait to see it that color!


F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #17, 02-11-2007 01:48 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by sostock:
its called calico.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhh... well, here's a key chain to go with it...



Cajun (mvizina@cox.net) MSG #18, 02-11-2007 02:17 AM
      Whade,

What vehicle did the ground effect come from?

Thanks,
Mike


pavo_roddy MSG #19, 02-11-2007 02:22 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by Cajun:

Whade,

What vehicle did the ground effect come from?

Thanks,
Mike


HI all

PM forum member fiero1fan, and he can help you.....



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #20, 02-11-2007 04:25 AM
      Fantastic.

MclarenF1 (poopoomagoo1@hotmail.com) MSG #21, 02-11-2007 04:35 AM
      That's looks awesome. I like the spoiler idea.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #22, 02-11-2007 09:00 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by BobadooFunk:

its EXTREMELY hard to do a paint scheme on a multi color body...

but i cant wait to see it that color!


Everything's going to get a nice coat of primer first. Should help to even things out. Getting the parts on the car was the easy part. Now I've got hours and hours of body filler and sanding ahead of me. The spolier and the lower door molding still need to be molded to the car too. Then, once everything is to where I want it, the panels come back off and get painted. Then it's reassembly and on to the interior from Amida.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #23, 02-11-2007 10:20 AM
      are you going to glass the rear wing and sides?

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #24, 02-11-2007 10:40 AM
      I LIKE IT!
Nice lines and I love the 355 nose.
I want one of those for my 87 GT so I'm hoping Fiero1Fan manages to get production going of the Dietmar piece.
Would like to keep the front markers integral with the nose.

Are you going to paint it Rosso Corso (Ferrari), red?
If so, you might take a tip from the Ferrari restoraton guys and use a pink tinted primer coat before shooting on the base color as this makes the red really *snap*.
A gray primer tends to dull the intensity of the red and a beige primer shifts it off toward the "orangy" side a bit. Just some food for thought, but I like what you're doing with the car.

Randy


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #25, 02-11-2007 10:49 AM
      Ooo, never thought of that. Thanks.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #26, 02-11-2007 10:56 AM
      Having your car in "Mary Kay Pink" primer also gives you a LOT more incentive to get the color coats finished

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #27, 02-11-2007 11:44 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by randye:

Having your car in "Mary Kay Pink" primer also gives you a LOT more incentive to get the color coats finished


True. Just so everyone knows, I will post no pictures of my car in pink primer. lol That alone would be cause enough for me to have to turn in my man card.



87SEV6Reborn05 (crashdocs@gmail.com) MSG #28, 02-11-2007 12:02 PM
      Awesome, was working on the same for mine but yellow. Picking up the fastback conversion stuffnext weekend, no nose yet. Fierofan has the rockers and side scoop? Are they deitmers, argh not sure on spelling. nice job, keep us updated.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #29, 02-11-2007 06:14 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

are you going to glass the rear wing and sides?


I'm going to glass the spoiler to the deck lid and the sides then cut it in three pieces. That way, one piece will stay with the deck lid and I'll also have end caps to give it a more molded in look. Kind of like the late seventies/ealry eighties Camaros and Trans-ams.



TorqueWench MSG #30, 02-11-2007 06:24 PM
      nicey-nice^_^ i want those rockers too, when i have money.
i want a ride in it when it's done. i'll bring the penguin, and we can dangle him precariously out the window at 120MPH while he curses at us, only to hear us shouting in Italian back at him to "fly, Mortissimo, fly!!!!"


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #31, 02-11-2007 07:44 PM
      For the moment, I'm keeping the stock four-banger in it. So 120 is only going to be possible downhill with a tailwind. But we could still torture the penguin at that speed methinks.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #32, 02-11-2007 08:04 PM
     

^ gotta catchhim first! lol


yellowstone MSG #33, 02-12-2007 08:43 AM
      I don't know but the concept applied here seems familar :-)



 
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Originally posted by whadeduck:









exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #34, 02-12-2007 11:01 AM
     

Nice side by side shots !

Wadeduck it is really coming along. The rear lip spoiler really adds something.

Yellowstone your car is fantastic as always, but i can't help but wonder how it too would look with the lip spoiler and some lambo doors.

Great job both guys !


Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #35, 02-12-2007 12:13 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by whadeduck:
True. Just so everyone knows, I will post no pictures of my car in pink primer. lol That alone would be cause enough for me to have to turn in my man card.


Real men would be confident in their pink primer.

I like the car. It looks great! Gonna be stunning when it's completed.
Sorry I can't help with the photochop.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #36, 02-12-2007 12:49 PM
      I could take pictures of it in pink primer, but then I might have to put it in "the hidden gallery."



Newbfiero (bobby_0958@hotmail.com) MSG #37, 02-12-2007 01:39 PM
      Nice Ride

87SEV6Reborn05 (crashdocs@gmail.com) MSG #38, 02-15-2007 09:41 AM
      coming along nice

FieroFinatic (twilso21@dtcc.edu) MSG #39, 02-15-2007 09:30 PM
      how do you feel about your f355 front nose from Fiero Warehouse??? was it an easy installation or what b/c I was thinking of purchasing 1 from them as well since Dietmars are currently not in production

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #40, 02-15-2007 09:37 PM
      It required a little tweeking here and there to get it to fit the way I want it to. But I'm very much a perfectionist.



2.8-4spd (forreste01@hotmail.com) MSG #41, 02-16-2007 10:38 AM
      Hi

Not photo shop, but I thought this thread of Wmacs car might help. Yours should look real nice!

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030531-1-024033.html

Forrest



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #42, 02-16-2007 10:49 AM
      Definately similar. His car is very nice and was actually one of the inspirations for mine. Thanks for the link.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #43, 02-17-2007 03:36 PM
      Just wanted to post a couple of shots I got today. Kind of liked the shot from the rear quarter.



And here's a closer shot of the rear lip spoiler for another member who requested it. Masking tape and all.



Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #44, 02-17-2007 03:50 PM
      Lower it! That's an order

Looks awesome!


yellowstone MSG #45, 02-17-2007 03:57 PM
      I like what you're doing but I'm critical of the Ferrari emblem. I think you make a fool out of yourself and your Fiero. If you leave it off, you'll have a great-looking Fiero. With it, you'll have a half-assed replica. What's better?

I'll tell you a story: today, I parked my Fiero in a car park downtown. I hung around because I was waiting for the elevator and three guys show up. They notice my Fiero, walk over. One says: "Look, a Lamborghini!". The other says: "It says GT! What is it?". They circle the Fiero, look inside, look at the emblem on the nose: "It's says Fiero!". They clearly haven't heard of such a car before. They keep circling the car and talking about it. Then they leave...

I think that this was much cooler than having a fake prancing horse on your Fiero and people pointing out to each other that it says Ferrari but clearly isn't.

Just my opinion, please don't take it wrong.

 
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Originally posted by whadeduck:

Just wanted to post a couple of shots I got today. Kind of liked the shot from the rear quarter.

And here's a closer shot of the rear lip spoiler for another member who requested it. Masking tape and all.





whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #46, 02-17-2007 04:28 PM
      Yousa point is well seen. Gives me something to think about. Maybe I could use the Pegasus symbol instead. Nothing saying Fiero. Just the Pegasus. Maybe I could get F-I-E-R-O to work up something for me. That would keep people guessing. Especially if I had something using that new symbol of F-I-E-R-O's.



TorqueWench MSG #47, 02-17-2007 05:08 PM
      i agree, use the pegasus.
i like the rear angled shot you took, and will have gwyneth do that one for you later. she's working on the first one you sent me, as its more usable than the outdoor side view you took today. i'm hunting the web for a suitably stylish background for it once she's done the work. she'll lower it for you too.
you said you wanted the belt moulding body-colored, yes?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #48, 02-17-2007 08:30 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Emc209i:
Lower it! That's an order




I hear and obey. Already in the works. Thanks for the compliment.



Unsafe At Any Speed (astevens@montana.edu) MSG #49, 02-17-2007 09:53 PM
      Yeah, definatly lose the prancing horse. I was thinking about the lip spoiler, but I don't want you to think I'm trying to copy your car so I guess I can't now.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #50, 02-17-2007 10:01 PM
     

Like most i agree,...LOSE THE FERRARI EMBLEM.

The car looks fantastic otherwise. Very good mods.

About the only other things i might consider are a ferrari style rear diffuser simlair to what blacktree or 4.9 have done.

I might also mold in the those side rockers.

Finally definatly LOWER IT, hehehe ,...but i see you are already on top of that.

Keep up the good work. Car looks great.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #51, 02-17-2007 10:02 PM
      I can lose the horse. But I gotta come up with something to fill that big blank spot in the tail light panel. Just needs something to kinda break it up. Same for the nose. I know, I can come up with something like a prancing pegasus. That'd really leave people with a puzzled look on their faces. Anyone have a link to the what and how of the difuser? I want to leave the panels all separate though in case of future damage.



TorqueWench MSG #52, 02-17-2007 10:26 PM
      put a grill of horizontal slats, like the Saleen S7,
or a panel of hex mesh in there,
like the Mach I mustangs of 71-73, or the P4/5 one-off, or whatever the he| | it's called.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #53, 02-17-2007 10:37 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by TorqueWench:

put a grill of horizontal slats, like the Saleen S7,
or a panel of hex mesh in there,
like the Mach I mustangs of 71-73, or the P4/5 one-off, or whatever the he| | it's called.


On the rear panel? Not sure I follow.



TorqueWench MSG #54, 02-17-2007 11:01 PM
      yes. an insert, along with the pegasus emblem, in yellow, framed in black.

break the grill/mesh in the dead center in the shape of the shield, into which will sit the emblem.
you get the look of the ferrari, with the identification of the fiero, with an added stylistic flourish.

[This message has been edited by TorqueWench (edited 02-17-2007).]

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #55, 02-17-2007 11:04 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by whadeduck:

I can lose the horse. But I gotta come up with something to fill that big blank spot in the tail light panel. Just needs something to kinda break it up.


I concur with others regarding the Ferrari emblems. Lose em. It's a Fiero.
Next best thing is to leave it devoid of emblems and let them guess like Yellowstone related.
If you simply MUST have a something on that rear panel, consider doing what I was going to do when I had my Euro rear panel. Use the small gold Fiero nose emblem (1984-85 I believe)
You can snag a new one in the GM box on ebay or from Doug at Fiero Warehouse.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #56, 02-17-2007 11:12 PM
      Forgot to say that I'm liking your car more and more with every pic.
VERY nice job duck, you're on a roll.

Randy


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #57, 02-17-2007 11:14 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by randye:

you're on a roll.

Randy


That would explain the butter on my pants.



TorqueWench MSG #58, 02-17-2007 11:17 PM
      here ya go:

all the different color pieces were extremely difficult to blend and color, and the nose we just gave up on. this is the best we could do, from the source provided. sorry
here's the full size image:
http://alisonrain.terminalg...mages2/ferrario1.jpg

are ya gonna put a pegasus badge on the fender too? i could modify the pic later for you, as i have one on my fender, in black and yellow, and could take a pic at a matching angle and blend it in pretty well.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #59, 02-17-2007 11:24 PM
      That's great! Gives me something to shoot for. Only one small problem. There seems to be a penguin having his way with my driver's side fender. j/k Looks great.



TorqueWench MSG #60, 02-17-2007 11:45 PM
      or if you wanted to stick with the Pontiac theme,
you could use honeycome hex mesh in a grill over the whole panel, and black out the panel. the taillight lenses would really stand out, as would the black against the red, and would complement the black in the fastback inner 'butress' inserts and vents.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #61, 02-17-2007 11:52 PM
      I was thinking of blacking out the panel anyway. I was also thinking of painting the inserts and grilles the color of the body. But the more I think about it (my head hurts now) the more I'm thinking of keeping them black. Is there a way to give the tail light panel a carbon fiber look?



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #62, 02-17-2007 11:57 PM
      Cover it in Carbon-fiber velum like used for the gauge pod coverings. BTW what are you doing up at this time of night young man???

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #63, 02-18-2007 12:00 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

Cover it in Carbon-fiber velum like used for the gauge pod coverings. BTW what are you doing up at this time of night young man???


That's what I was thinking. But didn't know if it'd end up looking cheap of not. Awww c'mon. All the other kids get to stay up late.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #64, 02-18-2007 01:07 AM
      wow this sucks... now i really feel like i suck... i'm just learning how to use photochop so please be nice...



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #65, 02-18-2007 02:40 AM
     
Diffuser ?

Something like this would be cool to go along with the theme u are running with !





Here a picture and a link to blacktree's thread and build.





http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/077457.html

Here is what fourpoint9 did.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/061545.html



PaulJK MSG #66, 02-18-2007 03:01 AM
      The red is very nice, but you might also consider the 1987 stock fiero GT blue

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #67, 02-18-2007 05:16 PM
      sorry whadeduck. i think i might have killed your thread. pick a rear and i'll try to add it to your car.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #68, 02-18-2007 06:26 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

sorry whadeduck. i think i might have killed your thread. pick a rear and i'll try to add it to your car.


Actually, I think Morty the penguin cursed it.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #69, 02-18-2007 07:29 PM
      figures... darn penguins... lol

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #70, 02-18-2007 09:17 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

figures... darn penguins... lol


Just has to have his flippers in everything. lol



pacethis (meeksj@charter.net) MSG #71, 03-01-2007 12:07 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by yellowstone:

I don't know but the concept applied here seems familar :-)





Okay guys, I'm assuming the front bumper is the 355...but looks better than nearly all others I've seen installed. How come most of them dip off so steeply, yet this one flows with the body lines... THIS IS THE ONE I WANT, WHERE DO I GET IT?


88White3.4GT MSG #72, 03-01-2007 12:26 PM
      pacethis -->

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/030760.html


yellowstone MSG #73, 03-01-2007 12:40 PM
      Actually, the nose on my car is similar but not the same as the "Dietmar" nose. You could say that they share ancestry. I never found out who actally made the first mold of this type of nose (the Germany 355 style) but anyways...

There *are* differences - but that doesn't matter since the vendor I bought mine from is no longer in business...

@Pacethis - have a look at http://www.yellowfiero.com/fiero_pix.html for more pix.

 
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Originally posted by pacethis:


Okay guys, I'm assuming the front bumper is the 355...but looks better than nearly all others I've seen installed. How come most of them dip off so steeply, yet this one flows with the body lines... THIS IS THE ONE I WANT, WHERE DO I GET IT?

[This message has been edited by yellowstone (edited 03-01-2007).]

jhfieo MSG #74, 03-02-2007 12:00 PM
      i still think the PPG Pace car looks alot like the 355. but yellowstone's car is also pretty frickin close.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #75, 03-02-2007 01:27 PM
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yellowstone MSG #76, 03-02-2007 02:38 PM
      Sorry for the hijack but people go for the painted cars... :-D

j/k, looking forward to seeing yours ready&painted.

 
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Man. I start a thread about my car and everyone ends up talkin' about Yellowstone's.
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whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #77, 03-02-2007 03:08 PM
      You and I both. But I don't dare rush it to the point I don't get it exactly the way I want it. Going to work on getting the doors rebuilt this weekend. The door panels are coming off, the hinges will get new pins, and the power goodies will be installed and tested. I'm not going to put the door panels back on until I get new dew wipes for it. Figure it's easier to replace them while the panels are off of the car.



DRA (fierorulz@yahoo.com) MSG #78, 03-02-2007 06:01 PM
      Sounds like you are making pretty decent progress!
Anxious to see the finished car in person.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #79, 03-05-2007 11:20 AM
      Got one door completely rebuilt this weekend. Took a little longer than I was expecting. Had to use bolts and lock nuts on the window and door lock regulators instead of self-tapping screws. With the outer door panel off, it made access to everything a lot easier. Tested it all with some leads and a battery charger. Window goes up and down and the door locks and unlocks, so I must've got it right. Hands still got pretty marked up thought trying to fit them throught he tight places. It's progress anyway.



TorqueWench MSG #80, 03-05-2007 11:52 AM
      wow, that's good. my lock solenoids and window motors need renewed or replaced. i'll bug you via pm for advice when i start doing them.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #81, 03-05-2007 01:11 PM
      Will do. I'll say this, if you have the time and the willingness, remove the outer panels when you do this. It gave me so much more room to work with and so much more access to grease up the window channels and clean and regrease the door latch.



Kaleb (kzeringue@troy.edu) MSG #82, 04-20-2007 11:40 PM
      any updates??? it's been a while

-Kaleb


PaulJK MSG #83, 04-21-2007 12:51 AM
      While you're at it, you might consider replacing the felt guides that support the window glass - they pretty cheap and usually need replacing:

http://www.secureleadercom....earchfield=inetsdesc


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #84, 04-21-2007 04:08 AM
      No real updates really. Been working the late hours again not leaving much time for anything else. Still having a fit with getting the alarm system wired into the car. But making progress instead of falling backwards like I usually do. I have thought about the new felt guides before I put everything together. Thanks for the reminder. This is how the car sits for the moment. Keeping with the Italian-looking theme. Spaghetti.




Kaleb (kzeringue@troy.edu) MSG #85, 04-22-2007 02:32 PM
      ...wow...thats a whole mess of wires ...i try to leave most of my hard electical work to professionals-i'm not to big on the whole electricity thing just know enough to get me by

MP5Na3 MSG #86, 04-22-2007 04:00 PM
      This is the emblem I have on the back of mine. Sorry a dark picture though.

Been trying for over two years to get the company that made the pair I have to make another run and they still haven't done it yet.

David
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CoryFiero MSG #87, 04-22-2007 05:13 PM
     

I like this logo. It was on this ebay car.



F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #88, 04-22-2007 06:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MP5Na3:
This is the emblem I have on the back of mine. Sorry a dark picture though.
Been trying for over two years to get the company that made the pair I have to make another run and they still haven't done it yet.
David
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I could do this....



I've been playing around with the idea but haven't gotten it to where I'm 100% happy with it. What size is yours?


wingless (buffpowell@gmail.com) MSG #89, 04-22-2007 10:39 PM
      I could do this....



I've been playing around with the idea but haven't gotten it to where I'm 100% happy with it. What size is yours?[/QUOTE]


Looks great! Gonna sell em?


Kaleb (kzeringue@troy.edu) MSG #90, 04-22-2007 10:42 PM
      i saw that one on ebay yesterday... i like it alot...maybe even more if it was chrome

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #91, 06-17-2007 11:12 AM
      Not much progress. Been working a lot lately. If I'm not at work, I'm trying to get the main bath in the house finished. What a freakin nightmare. Nothing square, nothing level. A learning experience I'll say that. Anyway, had Emc2 do a photoshop of MaxQ's car and ended up with this.

This is about as close to the picture of what I have in my head. I might do something different with the hood vent though. Amida is steadily working on the new interior for me and doing a most excellent job. Anyone who wants a kickass interior, but lacks the skills and/or time to do it themselves like I do, I highly recommend his work.

When I'm finished with it, the result should be a nice blend of Fiero practicality and Ferrari style.



Kaleb (kzeringue@troy.edu) MSG #92, 06-19-2007 10:35 AM
      very cool...where can i get an interior like that and how much does it run?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #93, 06-19-2007 10:37 AM
      You can PM Amida or e-mail him at fierointeriors@juno.com It's not cheap. But IMO, it's the best out there because of the hand crafting. Don't be in a rush for it either. Not saying that as a bad thing. But because it's so labor-intensive, it takes time. Kaleb, you have a PM.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #94, 06-21-2007 02:30 PM
      Here's an example of the quality of work Amida (Rob) does. He's started to upholster the PS door panel.

But here's a close up of the arm rest Check out the stitching.

Judging by the pictures he keeps sending me, I believe I'll be happy with the results of his efforts.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #95, 06-21-2007 02:56 PM
      Really starting to look good.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #96, 06-21-2007 03:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

Really starting to look good.


Amida's work is anyway. My end of the project hasn't made much progress at all. Hopefully that'll change come this weekend.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #97, 06-21-2007 03:04 PM
     

Riceburner98 (riceburner98@gmail.com) MSG #98, 06-21-2007 08:55 PM
      Can't wait to see that center console...

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #99, 06-21-2007 09:46 PM
      Ask and yee shall receive. Here's a closer picture of the finished console.



Riceburner98 (riceburner98@gmail.com) MSG #100, 06-22-2007 12:10 AM
      Damn he does good work! I couldn't do upholstry like that if I had to!

Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #101, 06-22-2007 05:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Ask and yee shall receive. Here's a closer picture of the finished console.




That looks damn hot



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #102, 06-22-2007 08:08 AM
      He is very good at what he does. I highly recommend his work. You're not going to get it done overnight and it's going to cost a little more than $5, but I think it's the best interior out there. Quality wise anyway. The style is up to indvidual tastes.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #103, 06-22-2007 02:23 PM
      Another picture he just sent me. He's moved the mocking up from his formula to another car because his formula has manual windows and mine are power. Mine's also a 5-speed. But It's really starting to come together.

I think the biggest plus about this interior is that no one is going to automatically think the car's a Fiero because of the interior. Smooth flowing lines instead of the boxy and modular look of the stock interior. And because of the great job Amida's doing, the interior looks like it came with the car that way. Normally the interior's done with more of a flat piece over the computer. But Rob accomidated my request of keeping the Fiero-like glove box to keep what little storage our little cars have. I think it turned out great.



pavo_roddy MSG #104, 06-22-2007 03:46 PM
      HI all

Great work done so far!! Thanx for the build up of your dash, I hope that one day I can afford this dash too! I am loving seeing it come together!!



CoryFiero MSG #105, 06-22-2007 06:38 PM
      OHH MAN!!! Sooo sexy Get to work on that car!!!



Dana McAlister (arrowheadgt@hotmail.com) MSG #106, 06-22-2007 08:04 PM
      wow, thats an amazing interior!....i really like the center console everything looks like its suppose to be there. is there anywhere that you can get the shift gate like you have? will it fit in the stock console?

TorqueWench MSG #107, 06-22-2007 09:04 PM
      that's beautiful.
i'm officially jealous. ^_^


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #108, 06-22-2007 09:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dana McAlister:
is there anywhere that you can get the shift gate like you have? will it fit in the stock console?


You can PM or email Amida. I don't know where he gets the shift gate, if he makes it himself, or if it's a genuine Ferrari piece. So far, the only things I've provided him, were a piece of carpet to do the doors so they'd match the new stuff I'm puting on the floors, the old glove box door from my console, and the HVAC panel from Riceburner. Everything else, he's provided. I can only hope that the exterior, when I finish it, will do the interior justice. Hope I don't screw anything up when I install it either. Anyone know where I can get a "355 Interior Installation For Dummies" book?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #109, 06-28-2007 04:33 PM
      Nothing photographically to update on. But I think I fried my alarm system I was trying to install. Everything was working until I tried to install the starter interrupt. Then nothing worked. Even tried to unhook everything and test the bare-bones system. Nothing. I think I fired the CPU. So I ordered a new alarm last weekend and, if it's here by this weekend, I'll get to work on it straight away. It's a newer Viper system. Hopefully it'll have better instructions than the Alpine one did.



fieroluv (bpickell2003@yahoo.com) MSG #110, 06-28-2007 04:44 PM
      Didn't it have an in-line fuse? usually that will pop before the cpu will. Just thought I'd ask.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #111, 06-28-2007 04:52 PM
      Yeah I checked the fuses and they're all intact. Even hotwired the siren and LED to test those separately. They all worked. I'm thinking, probably due to crappy and vague instructions, I may have ran voltage through something that shouldn't have had voltage running throught it and fried the main brain. I've seen some bad instruction sheets before but the ones that came with that system have to be the worst I've ever seen. I think they may assume that the person reading them has installed alarm systems all of their lives and can fill in the many blanks and missing steps. I'm hoping the instructions that come with the new system will be much more clear and detailed.



fierokit (jarquin@dccnet.com) MSG #112, 06-28-2007 06:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Just wanted to post a couple of shots I got today. Kind of liked the shot from the rear quarter.



And here's a closer shot of the rear lip spoiler for another member who requested it. Masking tape and all.





Where did you buy the taillights for the ferrari look? I'd like to buy that type of taillight for my body-kit, did it come with the horse-emblem?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #113, 06-28-2007 07:15 PM
      Here's where I got the tail light panel.
http://kahines.com
The horses didn't come with it. I have two of prancing horses and I'm not going to be using them so they're up for sale if you want them.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #114, 07-06-2007 09:41 AM
      Just got some more pics from Amida (Rob). He's got the gauge pod just about finished.



And the driver's side door panel is just about done. It's being baked in the sun.

I don't think I can say enough about the quality of the work he's doing.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #115, 07-06-2007 10:08 AM
     


Whade,

Sorry if i missed it but do you plan to use coilovers or lowering springs ?

I guess i am assuming you are lowering it ?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #116, 07-06-2007 10:10 AM
      Both. I have coil overs for the rear and lowering springs for the front.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #117, 07-13-2007 04:40 PM
      Amida (Rob) is pretty much done with the door panels now except for the "pistol grips." I am much pleased with his work. Just can't say enough about how much he pays attention to the details.







Fierari (rdunniii@mac.com) MSG #118, 07-13-2007 06:19 PM
      Damn, that's beautiful workmanship,

would you please stop posting pics!!! My bank account can't stand it. Must resist, must resist, must resist.

Where's the handle to close the door, yeah, that makes a good excuse, or is it not there yet?

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whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #119, 07-13-2007 08:19 PM
      That's the "pistol grip" he hasn't finished yet. I believe all he has left to finish is the dash itself.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #120, 07-13-2007 09:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fierari:

Damn, that's beautiful workmanship,

would you please stop posting pics!!! My bank account can't stand it. Must resist, must resist, must resist.

Where's the handle to close the door, yeah, that makes a good excuse, or is it not there yet?



C'mon. Send him an e-mail and place the order. Everybody's doin' it. You're not cool unless you do.



eldervampire (mikepiercefield@yahoo.com) MSG #121, 07-13-2007 09:49 PM
      Oh man, I am in so much trouble.
After looking at that car, i realized exactly how broke i'm gonna be for a long time.
That Is TOO F&*@ING SEXY.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #122, 07-13-2007 10:22 PM
      Well look at it this way. They say that money can't buy happiness. That's true, it can't. But it can buy the things that bring happiness. lol



darkknight0667 MSG #123, 07-14-2007 12:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck: Anyway, had Emc2 do a photoshop of MaxQ's car and ended up with this.

. . . This is about as close to the picture of what I have in my head. I might do something different with the hood vent though. Amida is steadily working on the new interior for me and doing a most excellent job. Anyone who wants a kickass interior, but lacks the skills and/or time to do it themselves like I do, I highly recommend his work.

When I'm finished with it, the result should be a nice blend of Fiero practicality and Ferrari style.

This is my first post here (been reading stuff for a few weeks now to get up to speed), and I have to say that this, when it's finally finished, is going to be one of the nicest builds around. It's a great combination of customizations and subtlety. I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing it completed.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #124, 07-14-2007 09:30 AM
      You and me both. Welcome to the forum and thanks for the compliment.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #125, 07-21-2007 11:03 PM
      Oooooo looky what Amida (Rob) e-mailed me.
Unupholstered main dash.....

Upholstered main dash.

I'm thinking, when it arrives, I'll have to change the date of my birthday to that day.



PaulJK MSG #126, 07-22-2007 12:04 AM
      Yowee - lookin good . Does Riceburner's A/C control come with that interior or are you going to get it seperately ?

pavo_roddy MSG #127, 07-22-2007 01:14 AM
      HI all

Riceburner makes them, and I believe he sells them himself.... Though Amida, the maker of the dash, may have bought a bunch to sell along side his dash.. Dunno if there's a mark up....



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #128, 07-22-2007 08:37 AM
      Ricerburner sold it to me then I shipped it to Amida to have it incorporated into the console.



RandomTask (jguer003@odu.edu) MSG #129, 07-22-2007 02:12 PM
      Whade, PM sent

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #130, 07-22-2007 03:16 PM
      PM answered. Didn't cause ya to have a heart attack did I? lol



RandomTask (jguer003@odu.edu) MSG #131, 07-22-2007 03:44 PM
      No, just gotta pinch some more pennies than I thought! Does sage still make those spoilers?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #132, 07-22-2007 04:03 PM
      You can PM him and ask. I think he still does the glass work for Fiero Warehouse. He's just not on here that much. Maybe e-mailing him might get you a quicker response. If you're looking for a step-by-step on installing that spoiler, Archie's already done one on one of the build threads.



RandomTask (jguer003@odu.edu) MSG #133, 07-22-2007 08:26 PM
      So I know this might be too much info to pry, but where did he get the center piece for your console? (other than the HVAC controls) Like all the buttons and everything?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #134, 07-22-2007 09:04 PM
      That you'd have to ask Amida. He provides all of that in his price. I belive a good deal of the pieces are genuine Ferrari. I know the side and middle dash vents are.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #135, 07-26-2007 11:08 PM
      Just a little somethin' somethin' for the drool factor.

[This message has been edited by whadeduck (edited 07-26-2007).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #136, 07-27-2007 11:17 PM
      More, more, more. Howdoyalike it, howdoyalike it.....





Amida (Rob) did a test fit today. I think it's coming along very nicely.



PaulJK MSG #137, 07-28-2007 03:07 AM
      Woooooow !

gaas88 (gs.allevato@sympatico.ca) MSG #138, 07-28-2007 09:55 AM
      That interior is exactly what I want to do to my 328 kit! Dammit that's one sexy interior!

D.Rohm (firstfiero@t-online.de) MSG #139, 07-28-2007 04:01 PM
      Absolute perfekt work ! I never saw something like this before .

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #140, 07-28-2007 07:33 PM
      To me, the art is in the details, like the stitching.

He pays close attention to everything. Test fits and refits. It's not all for looks either. Most of it will be functional if not all. A true master of his art if you ask me.



Riceburner98 (riceburner98@gmail.com) MSG #141, 07-28-2007 10:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:
Amida (Rob) did a test fit today. I think it's coming along very nicely.



That's an understatement if I ever heard one.... That thing is insane..


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #142, 07-29-2007 12:24 AM
      Perhaps he's like I am then. My insanity keeps me sane.



dcfox (dcfox@windstream.net) MSG #143, 07-29-2007 01:08 AM
      That interior would make a real Ferrari jealous.
question...shift gate...6 speed?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #144, 07-29-2007 08:45 AM
      The shift gate resembles a six-speed but, for now at least, I'm keeping the five-speed. But the shift gate is like that to keep with the 355 theme. Who knows, by the time I do an engine swap, there may be a seven-speed. lol



superdave69 MSG #145, 07-29-2007 12:53 PM
      Interior looks fantastic cant wiat to see it finished keep up the great post

pavo_roddy MSG #146, 08-20-2007 04:53 PM
      HI all

Any news?



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #147, 08-22-2007 05:36 AM
      Whade,

Do you have your interior in yet?

Nelson


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #148, 08-28-2007 04:48 PM
      Sorry about the slow response. I don't have internet at home anymore so I must've missed the question. It just came today. What sucks is that I have to work late tonight so I can't even play with my new toys. I did take the console out of the package though. Truely a masterpiece.
Edit to add drool-inducing pics.







whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #149, 08-29-2007 08:38 AM
      Bump for the day crowd to see.



timwdegner MSG #150, 08-29-2007 08:52 AM
      Wow, that really is a work of art. I had no idea Amida did this type of work.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #151, 08-29-2007 09:07 AM
      It's unbelievable. Some people have said in this thread that it's better than actual Ferrari interior work. Now being able to inspect it up close and hold it in my hands, I would have to agree. Ok, so I've never actually seen the inside of a real Ferrari, but this is outstanding work. After I finish the bodywork on the car, I'll put the interior in. If I scratch it, I'll have no choice but to mortally wound myself somehow.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #152, 08-31-2007 08:52 AM
      Looks like I should have some time to work on it this weekend. Hopefully get the new alarm systen wired in and get all of the electrical things done.



PaulJK MSG #153, 08-31-2007 02:40 PM
      A word of advice on that alarm system: i put one in my kitcar that sits more than it drives. i found the battery drained or too low to start almost every time I wanted to go for a drive . I believe the cuprit was the proximity sensor but i'm not 100% certain. So i tested the alram then unplugged the power connections to the main brain and also the harness going into the sensor. No problems since. If you're still working on the car and it's sitting alot, you might consider battery drain from the alarm.

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 08-31-2007).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #154, 08-31-2007 02:44 PM
      Thanks for the advice. I've been disconnecting the battery after I work with it. Been having battery problems with all three of my cars.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #155, 09-01-2007 09:28 PM
      Not much accomplished today. Tested my parking lights and turn signals to make sure they all worked. They didn't. =\ The left front was dead. Replaced the bulbs, nothing. Cleaned the ground, still nothing. Finally ended up replacing both sockets for the turn signal on the left front. That was about three hours worth. Then on to the alarm install. Check out my other thread on why I pretty much got absolutely nowhere with this today http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/085708.html Frustrating to say the least. Frustrating day when I figure that I spent about six hours working on the car today and my work I was able to complete amounted to the replacement of two light bulb sockets. Oh well. Good days and bad days.



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #156, 09-03-2007 04:27 AM
      Whade,

Let me know about how many hours it takes to install your new interior. I am next in line and hope to get the install a bit more perfected based on what you learned during the process. I am especially interested in problems that you run into and any solutions that you may have to resolve them. If I ever get back in country and your interior is not complete, I may run up to help and learn something.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #157, 09-03-2007 04:35 PM
      It'll be a while before I install the interior because my plan is to get all of the body and mechanical work done first. I'm saving the new interior for dead last to try and keep it clean. Gotta get this alarm system issue resolved first. =\



IMSA GT (drumwzrd@comcast.net) MSG #158, 09-03-2007 09:04 PM
      Beautiful stuff......keep posting !!!!

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #159, 09-04-2007 05:01 PM
     

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #160, 09-09-2007 02:54 AM
      You are still far ahead of me on this one. I still have the cradle/engine swap to complete, paint, and the new interior to install. At the current rate this should take a few years.

 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

It'll be a while before I install the interior because my plan is to get all of the body and mechanical work done first. I'm saving the new interior for dead last to try and keep it clean. Gotta get this alarm system issue resolved first. =\





RideZiLightning MSG #161, 09-09-2007 06:40 AM
      That is incredible. I'll trade you my right hand for it, it's even my good one.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #162, 09-09-2007 11:41 AM
      Got the alarm system wired up to work yesterday. Still need to run everything to "neaten" it up. Worked a little on the re-wire for the interior too. Will continue on that today. Once I get the wiring ready for the new interior, I'm going to take up the old carpet and lay down the sound deadening material in the floors and the rear firewall. After that, there's a couple of mechanical issues to address. Then I'll get back to the body work. Have to go into work for a little while today, so my schedule for the car will be somewhat limited.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #163, 09-10-2007 07:47 AM
      No pics. But I was able to install and test the new HVAC panel. Works great. Riceburner does excellent work. Now I need to find a place to mount the two modules. Almost got the power windows rewired but had to redo the connectors and ran out. So I'll get some more after work and finish up the wiring for the power windows tonight and start rewiring the alarm too hopefully.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #164, 09-13-2007 11:31 AM
      Going to continue on the rewiring of the alarm system and new interior wiring tonight and also glass my headliner back together. It's in four pieces right now. =\



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #165, 09-17-2007 09:06 AM
      Starting to rewire the alarm system and make it look all purdy and stuff. The cardboard is just for mockup purposes. I'll either do wood or plastic later on and make up a cover for the whole thing.


Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #166, 09-17-2007 09:41 AM
      May I ask why you aren't mounting it under the right side of the dash? Then you wouldn't see it at all.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #167, 09-17-2007 10:21 AM
     

PaulJK MSG #168, 09-18-2007 02:02 AM
      The front trunk is another place you might consider for mounting electronics.

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 09-18-2007).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #169, 09-18-2007 07:35 AM
      Most of the wiring has already been run to that location so I'm gonna have to stick with it for now. It's not going to be mounted quite like that.


Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #170, 09-23-2007 07:39 AM
      similar car for sale http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PONT...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #171, 09-23-2007 02:49 PM
      I've seen that one before. I think it was on Fiero.de.



DRA (fierorulz@yahoo.com) MSG #172, 09-30-2007 11:05 PM
      Bump for more pics and progress!



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #173, 10-01-2007 06:46 AM
      welcome back DRA!

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #174, 10-01-2007 08:03 AM
      Nothing this weekend. Still working on stuff in my house. It's amazing how the little stuff takes so freakin' long.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #175, 10-01-2007 03:00 PM
      me and justin are going to have to come down there for some custom fiberglass work to hide those electronics and the amplifier your going to install. that is if your doing a sound system too. or just hide them under the skeletin of the center console... there is always room there for small stuff.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #176, 10-01-2007 03:11 PM
     

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #177, 10-14-2007 12:12 PM
      Just to keep it alive. Not much getting done on it as I work long hours and, when I'm not at work, I'm trying to get stuff done on my house. So about the only thing I've done was to get the one-inch tweeters installed in the a-pillar trim.



Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #178, 10-14-2007 12:39 PM
      Sweet car, but how does the shifter work? It has the dog-leg reverse.

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #179, 10-14-2007 01:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:





ok i'm looking at this again... do you have enough room to put those under the b pillar plastic? it looks like that would be a great hiding spot! right above the seatbelt bolt.

[This message has been edited by Finally_Mine_86_GT (edited 10-14-2007).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #180, 10-14-2007 02:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr.PBody:

Sweet car, but how does the shifter work? It has the dog-leg reverse.


The shift arm actually never goes into the gates. It just stays in the middle part so the gates are just for effect. I think it'd be a little different for an automatic though.



Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #181, 10-14-2007 02:29 PM
      why not make it functional?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #182, 10-14-2007 02:29 PM
     

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #183, 10-14-2007 02:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr.PBody:

why not make it functional?


I've seen some attempts on the forum to make funtional shift gates. Looks like a lot of extra work for a little added effect. I'll give it some thought later though. I'm not dismissing the idea.



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #184, 10-14-2007 02:33 PM
      like i said somewhere on this thread before... if you run out of room to hide thins look to the center console skeleton. just a thought.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #185, 10-14-2007 02:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

like i said somewhere on this thread before... if you run out of room to hide thins look to the center console skeleton. just a thought.


With the new interior, the console skeleton is no more. As far as the tunnel, most of that space is now taken up by the modules for Riceburner's HVAC panel. I also have to find places for rerouting the lighter. I want to keep that for a power outlet if I need one. I'm also rerouting the computer interface. I think I'm going to put that behind the door to the dash's glove box. I don't know if I'm going to put anything else there yet or not, but I do wan tot have easy acces to it. It'd suck to have to dismantel half the interior to get to it just to read a code.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #186, 11-05-2007 07:53 AM
      No progress in the last few weeks. Had to get my house presentable for an appraisal so I could refinance.Been working a lot too. Earliest I've been home other than a couple of nights has been eleven o'clock. Hopefully this weekend I won't have to work again. Was thinking about something though. When I attach the lower door moldings, I was thinking about something other than molding it onto the door. I was thinking about attaching them much like the lower door molding of the SE's and GT's and have them to where they're removable. Any ideas and/or opinions?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #187, 11-05-2007 07:00 PM
      Ok, I'm done with trying to fool myself into thinking I'll ever get the time to finish this or maybe even ever get to work on it again. It's officially up for sale. After figuring some things up, I've got over $11,000 in it as it sits. Mostly in parts and the interior. Everything goes with it as-is. It runs, but most of the panels are not fastened down, so it's not really driveable. I'm asking $8,500 for the whole package. It's sat now in my shop I rent for the last four months gathering dust and costing me $400 each month. Someone else can pick this up, spend a few weeks on it, and turn it into something really nice. I'm just never going to have the time. I'll answer any questions you might have.



Jake_Dragon MSG #188, 11-05-2007 07:16 PM
      Haul it back to the house and put a tarp over it. Trust me in a year you will thank me.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #189, 11-05-2007 07:16 PM
      Can't HOA won't allow it.



Jake_Dragon MSG #190, 11-05-2007 07:23 PM
      Ok drag it down to my house and I will store it... I promise not to take anything, like that sweet ass dash.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #191, 11-05-2007 07:26 PM
      Then I KNOW I'll never work on it. I couldn't even get enough time this weekend to go to Columbia. A 2 1/2 hour drive. I really doubt I'd be able to ever get down to Florida to work on it. Thanks for the gesture though.



topcat (tconey01@att.net) MSG #192, 11-05-2007 07:38 PM
      Wade, I know how it can seem that you never can have enough time in the day to get everything you want done. Heck, I've been working at getting an intercooler on my car for nearly three months now... and I just got it running this past weekend. Mainly because of the hours I work, so when I get off, the last thing I want to do is work on my hobby. So I wait for a day off, only to find it occupied by other stuff that I need to do... like spending time with my wife, and other hunny-doo stuff.

I was talking to the wife last week and I vowed to NOT do anything else elective on the Fiero for at least a year simply because the time it takes to complete the simplest task is frustrating beyond belief.


Long rant to simply say, take a break from it, and do not let the dream die. I bet there will be huge regrets if you sell it before you get it done.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #193, 11-05-2007 07:53 PM
      I know I'll regret it. But it'd be better in the hands of someone who can work on it. Besides, it's costing me a fortune to keep it and I have nowhere else for it. Even if I did, I can't see how I'll have any time in about the next year or so to do anything to it. Can't see paying another twelve months rent on my shop for a project I can't work on.



Jake_Dragon MSG #194, 11-05-2007 07:57 PM
      Can you put it in storage? That has to be better than the shop price. I had to let my car sit for over a year but I am so glad that I didn't sell it.
Heck if nothing else pull the custom parts so you can start back up with another one when you are able.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #195, 11-05-2007 08:05 PM
      None of the places around here store cars unless they're outside. And the cost is about the same as I'm paying for the shop. Some things in this area are astronomical. I reckon they don't want them due to liability. =\ Nah, as much as I hate to do it and know I'll end up regreting it, it's time for her to find a good home. Better than I can give her.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #196, 11-06-2007 02:37 AM
      Bump to the top for interested parties.



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #197, 11-06-2007 08:00 AM
      PM sent.

Nelson


Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #198, 11-06-2007 02:46 PM
      That's depressing...
I was looking forward to this Fiero being completed.

-M


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #199, 11-06-2007 03:56 PM
      Buck up little camper. No one's more distraught about this than I. But may yet be able to find an alternative.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #200, 11-13-2007 07:42 AM
      No one seems to be interested enough. Most likely the price. So I'll have to keep plugging away as best I can somehow. So next question. I have Mr. Mikes upholstery in a light tan vinyl. At the time I ordered the upholstery, I was going with the whole "prancing horse" thing. Now I'm doing the pegasus logo throughout the car to hold onto the Fiero base of the car but still keep people guessing as to what in the world it is. So how can I get the prancing horse embroidery off or covered up to be able to put a different logo on it?



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #201, 11-13-2007 08:05 AM
      PM sent. What kind of logo are you thinking of using to replace the pony?
Do you have a good close up pic of the pony logo and possibly a pic of the logo you want to use?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #202, 11-13-2007 09:07 AM
      Talked with Mr. Mike, he said, if I mailed my backs to him, he could swap them out. But I would lose my seatbelt slots. Otherwise, he said the only other option he could think of would be to sew an embroidered patch over the existing logo. I have some spare vinyl I could get the new logo put on. Still open to other options though. Mr. Mike said that, if I removed the enbroidery, it would leave a bunch of tiny little holes in the vinyl. But if I stitch something over it, I still think I'm going to remove the old stitching so it won't leave a lump in the new logo.

edit to add the logo. This....

only in black. Or maybe even a slightly different shade of tan. Even thinking about a completely embroidered cloth patch for something to go over the old one.


Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #203, 11-13-2007 09:54 AM
      Mr. Mikes advice about the patch over the old holes is the best way to do it. Figure out how large of a patch you need to cover the old holes and then go for it. I too would remove the old stitching before sewing on the new logo. Also use a good adhesive on the back of the new patch (to help strengthen the vinyl area with the holes) then sew the patch on around the edges of the patch.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #204, 11-13-2007 02:54 PM
      Think I found a place that'll do custom embroidered patches fairly cheap. About $115 for twelve. So I'll come up with a design and try to sell the other ten if someone's interested. By the way, other than a seam ripper, is there a good way to remove embroidery?



PaulJK MSG #205, 11-13-2007 04:48 PM
      Sorry to hear about your problems and I know it can be depressing. But MAN, I would just walk away from the car for awhile. Sounds like you're doing things that are costing you more money, aren't gonna help you sell it and you will probably regret later. it's beautiful - i would definitely not mess with mixng pegasus and cavalino - its gonna look halfway done in both directions. I'd trade you for one of my cars and finish it up the way you started .....

Cheer up - the holidays are coming .....


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #206, 11-13-2007 05:08 PM
      Not mixing the two really. That's why I'm trying to have all of the logos the pegasus instead of the prancing horse. Kinda walked away from it for a little while. Unfortunately, it was because I was working 100 hour plus weeks. I originally started out wanting to make it look as much like a 355 as possible without going into a full kit. But now I want it to look unique. The style will be similar to the lines of a 355 but keeping the Fiero lines also. Yeah, some of these things cost some money, but I've never had any intention on doing any of this project half-assed. That's why I went ahead and got the interior done by Amida. I didn't feel I would've been happy with anything less. The same with things like these seat backs. It's the little details that can make all of the difference in a project. In the end, it's a project "I" have to be content with. Not an easy task considering how anally retentive I can be with things like this. But I dread the holidays. Haven't been able to get into the spirit for years.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #207, 11-15-2007 08:57 AM
      This is just an idea of about what the embroidered patches I'm going to have made will look like.

The site I was looking at though, might have a patch that's rectangular with rounded off top and bottom. Thought that might look kewl. Any other suggestions? If I get them made, I'll have ten left that I'll put up for sale for cost plus what little it'll take to mail them off.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #208, 11-15-2007 05:21 PM
      Ok, this is more like what I had in mind. Now I just have to come up with the right size.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #209, 11-16-2007 05:17 AM
      I think it will look better if you have the patch completely round.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #210, 11-16-2007 06:49 AM
      I'll see what I can come up with and compare them. Don't want to just have the Fiero shield either. The only other update is that I got two 4-wire connectors in the mail yesterday from Painless. I'm using those to make connections for the instrument panel. Instead of eight separate wires, I'll have two plugs to undo.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #211, 11-16-2007 08:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

I think it will look better if you have the patch completely round.


Better?



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #212, 11-16-2007 09:33 AM
      Yes, I think it will look better sewn on to the head rest of the seat.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #213, 11-16-2007 10:15 AM
      But the patch is being stitched on to cover all the little holes that will be left over from removing the embroidery.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #214, 11-16-2007 04:28 PM
      Just giving it a for opinions from the night crowd.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #215, 11-18-2007 02:02 PM
      Update: No patches. contacted Mr. Mike and I'm sending the seat backs back to him. He'll take the back panel off and stitch a new one in with the pegasus logo ebroidered on it. Whoohoo Mr. Mike! Still working on getting the wiring harness for the instrument panel squared away. I bought a pre-made harness from Painless, but it only covers some of the stuff. I'm having to fab the rest of it.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #216, 11-18-2007 02:23 PM
      Lets see some pics !

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #217, 11-18-2007 03:12 PM
      Okie dokie. This is the back of the instrument panel. I thought I had spaghetti before.

The harness pretty much hooks up the gauges, turn signals, and the high-beam idicator. The rest has to be fabbed up.
Had to lengthen the wires to go to the gauges to go in the center of the dash. Pretty much keeping Fiero orientation with this. The speedometer, tach, fuel, and water temp gauges are going in the main pod and the voltmeter and oil pressure are going into the center section. Also have a boost gauge in there for future use.

To get all, actually most, of the dash lights to work, I ordered these 4-connector plugs from painless to simplify and neaten things up.

Now it's back outside. I'm still trying to get the new alternator back onto my GT along with Dodgerunner's belt tensioner bracket and I'm running out of light again.



PaulJK MSG #218, 11-18-2007 06:23 PM
      You can probably get those connectors at any electronics supply store in plugs with different numbers of wires. Here, Fry's electronics stocks them. Also, double check the circuits with your color codes on the dash wires - GM used the same color for numerous circuits. I'm going through mine again; the wiring diagrams in the Haynes or service manuals are very good guides.

Nice work


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #219, 11-18-2007 06:54 PM
      I'm going to trace the wires back. I'm using the stock instrument panel's printed circuit. I'll note the location of the wires on the plug that would normally plug into the instrument panel and splice those wires into the appropriate place. Ain't I the brainy one? I checked the local parts stores and Radio Shacks and they didn't have any connectors. Autozone did, but I would've ended up paying more than I did ordering them online. Around the Myrtle Beach area, there's not much that doesn't cater to the tourist industry. So aftermarket car places and the like are almost, if not, nonexistant. Ya know, looking at all of the stuff on my kitchen table, I'm almost glad I don't have a girlfriend or wife. I'd probably be dead by now.



Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #220, 11-18-2007 08:18 PM
      So are you going to keep it !?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #221, 11-18-2007 08:42 PM
      Nobody really seemed interested in it. Not for what I had to get for it anyway. So yeah, I'm going to have to keep working on it somehow.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #222, 11-19-2007 12:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Okie dokie. This is the back of the instrument panel. I thought I had spaghetti before.

The harness pretty much hooks up the gauges, turn signals, and the high-beam idicator. The rest has to be fabbed up.
Had to lengthen the wires to go to the gauges to go in the center of the dash. Pretty much keeping Fiero orientation with this. The speedometer, tach, fuel, and water temp gauges are going in the main pod and the voltmeter and oil pressure are going into the center section. Also have a boost gauge in there for future use.

To get all, actually most, of the dash lights to work, I ordered these 4-connector plugs from painless to simplify and neaten things up.

Now it's back outside. I'm still trying to get the new alternator back onto my GT along with Dodgerunner's belt tensioner bracket and I'm running out of light again.



Pretty tight fit wouldn't you say? I looked around for a 8-12pin connector, but I don't believe there is one in the aftermarket. You can always make the car your daily driver, so that you'll have it everyday to work on little by little.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #223, 11-19-2007 01:07 PM
      Kinda thinking along those lines. Still much work just to get it to DD status.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #224, 11-19-2007 01:24 PM
     

Ferrarifan took a ferry boat to my place one morning & we gutted out his stock interior & replaced it with one that I had waiting for him & he took the ferry back that same evening. We didn't do any of the wiring so he was driving home blind, but goes to show you that one day projects can work with good planning.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #225, 11-19-2007 01:37 PM
      But my problem is that I'm virtually skilless. That, and I'm trying to wire in an alarm system at the same time, and rewire the rear light panel, and new backup lights. Whew! Think I'm gonna push the boss off his couch and have me a nap. Hopefully, I'm going to spend all Thanksgiving in the shop working on it. Once the wiring is completed, I'm laying down some Dynamat-type stuff. Oh yeah, tell Ferrarifan that he has a really purdy car.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #226, 11-21-2007 01:59 PM
      Whichever nose I put on the car, I'm going to try to build a grille similar to the 355's and put a mesh grille behind it. Any suggestions on how to build one? I'd like to build it out of aluminum. But I want to paint it black and I thought I heard that aluminum doesn't hold paint very well. I probably heard wrong. =\ Oh yeah, and I can't weld so that option is pretty much off of the table.

I like this grille because it'll put the new emblem where everyone will see it. If I stick with just a mesh in the grille opening, the emblem will be kind of tucked away. Opinions and suggestions are welcome as always.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #227, 11-22-2007 09:05 PM
      Not much of an update. Not feeling well today. Kinda feel like I got between Rosie O'Donnell and a doughnut. So I didn't get to the shop. But I did finish the instrument panel wiring harness.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #228, 11-22-2007 11:16 PM
      Nice work.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #229, 11-23-2007 10:17 AM
      Thanks. Just hope it's hooked up right and will work. I'm thinking I'm going to have to order a couple of different sending units.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #230, 11-23-2007 12:46 PM
      Looks good. VDO used their own oil & temp senders. I used T-fittings to install in addition to the stock senders because I believe the computer still uses both ( oil pressure & temp sensor ). The "Hot" dummy light also needs a separate sender to turn on&off; replaces the stock temp gauge sender in the corner of the cylinder head on v6.

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whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #231, 11-23-2007 01:38 PM
      Ooo, yeah. Didn't think about the computer still having to use the stock sensors. Thanks. I'll have to modify your plan a little though because I have a 2.5 liter.



PaulJK MSG #232, 11-23-2007 08:19 PM
      i didn't know that the VDO gauges used their own temp and oil senders (!?). Lucky that the stock fuel sender was OK .

I don't know about the ECU, but the stock oil pressure sender has "feedback" wiring to the fuel pump relay. I simply terminated these wires (there are 3) and did not have a problem. If these wires ground, the fuel pump fuse will blow (and you'll most definitely be stranded).

Keep up the nice work .... your gauage panel looks MUCH better than the first two times I did mine

By the way, don't you mean you have a 2.8 (?) or are you spending all this time and money on a 4 cylinder car ?

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Taijiguy (pcfixer@gmail.com) MSG #233, 11-23-2007 10:10 PM
      What kind of gauges are you using? I'm thinking of building a custom dash and haven't decided on gauges yet.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #234, 11-24-2007 01:37 PM
      For the moment, I'm keeping the four-banger in it. I have plans to do either a turbocharged or supercharged 3.8. So either way, whether I started with a four-cylinder car or a six, I'd still end up doing an engine swap. The gauges I'm using are VDO Visions.



Team Race-Tech MSG #235, 11-24-2007 04:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:



Ferrarifan took a ferry boat to my place one morning & we gutted out his stock interior & replaced it with one that I had waiting for him & he took the ferry back that same evening. We didn't do any of the wiring so he was driving home blind, but goes to show you that one day projects can work with good planning.

Who's kit is that, or better yet where did that guy purchase the 355 kit?????



pavo_roddy MSG #236, 11-24-2007 07:19 PM
      Hi all

Team race tech, go here: http://www.air-dynamics.ws/



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #237, 11-24-2007 07:22 PM
      How much did it cost to replace the seat back with the logo.. I have a set of seats from Mr Mike with the ferrari horse but i want to change it to just the pegasus. Thanks Austin

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #238, 11-25-2007 12:12 PM
      Don't know for sure yet. I sent them off last week. He said that when he's done he'll tell me how much it is. But I'm thinking it'll be less than $100.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #239, 11-26-2007 01:43 PM
      Looks like I need to order a water temp. sending unit and an oil pressure sending unit to get the gauges to work. Does anyone know the thread sizes of the stock sensors?



PaulJK MSG #240, 11-29-2007 04:13 AM
      here's the link for the 12-pin molex connector, part number 1360PRT

http://www.waldom.com/search.cfm

using distributor locator in the left column might give you a local store. hope this helps you and amida

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Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #241, 12-11-2007 11:31 PM
      Did you ever get a price thanks Austin

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #242, 12-11-2007 11:40 PM
      Nothing yet. But it should be soon. Mr. Mike is also going to have to replace one of the headrest pieces. Who knew that resting it against a stained-wood headboard would leave a mark? It did, and he's going to replace the stained piece for me for about $20. I'm probably jinxing myself. But it actually looks like I might get to work on the car this weekend.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #243, 01-12-2008 01:03 PM
      As it turns out, I've been jinxing myself for about the last month. I managed to get Christmas off and stayed home sick. Since then it's been anywhere from fifteen to twenty hour days at work seven days a week to try and keep things going for the company. But, in the meantime, Mr. Mike came through again and my seat backs have been redone and delivered as promised.



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #244, 01-12-2008 05:33 PM
      those are the exact seats and color i have with the same request i would ask mr mikes to do. how much did that cost because those look better than i imagined in my head.

Thanks Austin


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #245, 01-12-2008 05:47 PM
      I'd have to look back on the invoice. Around $450 I believe. I got the light tan vinyl seats in the Italian style with the seat belt holes. I ended up paying more though because I started with the prancing horse logo then switched to the pegasus. I don't believe Mr. Mike carries the light tan in leather anymore. Great quality. I can't wait to get them installed. But it's one of the last things I'll do. But I don't think it's any extra to get the pegasus logos than any other logo. He just leaves out the border of a logo he already offers.



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #246, 01-12-2008 06:58 PM
      i have the seats already but didnt you said he replaced that part with the logo? bc mine has the ferrari horse as well but i want the pegasus so i was wondering how much it would cost just to get that part swapped out

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #247, 01-12-2008 07:19 PM
      Oh, ok. I'm at work right now. But I'll be headed home around 8:00. I'll edit the post with what Mr. Mike charged me. I think it was around $75. Yup. $75 to swap out the logos plus $10 shipping.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #248, 02-06-2008 10:44 PM
      Not much of an update. No pictures anyway. Got the alarm all hooked up and working. Got the console switches hooked up too. Just have to rewire everything to make it look all purdy. I've got two of the wires on my mirror hooked up but can't figure out where the third one goes. The two I have hooked up are the power and the ground. It's an auto dim with a compass on it. Any ideas what the third wire is for and where to hook it up? Still have to hook up the mirror switch, the gauges, relocate the ECU interface and cigarette lighter. Then the interior wiring is done. I think so anyway. =\



Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #249, 02-06-2008 11:05 PM
      Ok and then pictures!

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #250, 02-07-2008 10:59 AM
      Right, where are those pics ?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #251, 02-07-2008 11:39 AM
      All I could get now would be ugly pictures of spaghetti-like wiring. Do you really wanna see those pics?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #252, 02-07-2008 01:15 PM
     

Whadeduck,

So glad you decided to keep going on the project, it is going to be very much worth it when you are finished.

We all know things take time, so just be patient and do a bit at a time and before you know it, it will all come together.

Best of luck

Tony


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #253, 02-07-2008 02:08 PM
      Thanks. I just hope I can get it finished before I have to put an "antique" tag on it. lol



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #254, 02-08-2008 09:17 AM
      Had plans last night to work a bit more on the wiring. But my allergies had other plans. For whatever reason, my allergies are going hog wild right now. When I left work yesterday, my left eye had swollen shut and the right was trying to catch up. So I had to resort to taking some time traveling meds. You know, the ones that you take and the next thing you know it's three hours later. Better today, but still have enough sinus pressure to make my face feel like it's going to pop off.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #255, 02-08-2008 04:16 PM
      Nice meds...where do I pick some up??

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whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #256, 02-08-2008 05:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

Nice meds...where do I pick some up??



I found 'em growing under a tree out back. Actually, it was just Tylenol sinus. I'm a lightweight when it comes to sinus and allergy meds. The stuff knocked me out last night but didn't do squat today. Going home now. Going to stop at the store first to pick up something more powerful and then maybe stop at the car wash to stuff the pressure washer up my nose.

Edit: Found some Benedryl with a warning "Do not use near open flame" on it. That should do the trick.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #257, 02-11-2008 10:07 AM
      I was thinking about something over the weekend. Instead of molding the stage II door moldings to the car, I was thinking of just mounting them to the bottoms of the doors like the GT/SE door moldings. Any suggestions?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #258, 02-18-2008 10:41 PM
      Updates with pics.




The switches in the console are hooked up and the alarm system is rewired and opperational. I have the trunk and door locks hooked up on the console and the only other switch I'm going to hook up will be the fog/driving lights. The HVAC panel works like a charm. Truely plug and play. Rice Burner did an awesome job.



War Hammer (oldsouthphoto@yahoo.com) MSG #259, 02-19-2008 09:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Updates with pics.




The switches in the console are hooked up and the alarm system is rewired and opperational. To finish the alarm completely, I'm going to make a small plastic box for it and hide it under the carpet. I'm also going to hook up a backup battery like War Hammer suggested. I have the trunk and door locks hooked up on the console and the only other switch I'm going to hook up will be the fog/driving lights. The HVAC panel works like a charm. Truely plug and play. Rice Burner did an awesome job.



I love your wiring's tidiness. Keep up the fantastic work!

Paul

Edit for typos.


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #260, 02-19-2008 10:28 AM
      Bravo. Maybe I should think about getting an alarm too; already had 1 Alpine stolen. Are you leaving out the rear window defroster?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #261, 02-19-2008 10:48 AM
      The car doesn't have a defroster and I figured it's too much of a hastle to install one for what little good they actually do in a car the size of ours. So, worst case scenario is I'll have to use a paper towel. It'll be a bit before I can get back to the shop again. We have seven jobs that have to be turned in before next Tuesday. So I get to turn in the long hours again.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #262, 02-19-2008 11:01 AM
      Hmmm....I always thought the rear defroster was standard equipment.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #263, 02-19-2008 05:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

Hmmm....I always thought the rear defroster was standard equipment.


Nope. I've had a couple without a defroster. Even an aftermarket one looks like it's kind of a PITA to install. Oh well, it'll make the rear window easier to tint. Maybe I can modify one of the switches to activate the evil trunk monkey.



HC MSG #264, 02-19-2008 06:32 PM
      That f355 kit looks top-notch, tell him good job!

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #265, 02-19-2008 07:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by HC:

That f355 kit looks top-notch, tell him good job!


You can tell Amida (Rob) yourself. He's the one who did it. It is excellent quality. His Jedi skills are far greater than mine.



ferrobi MSG #266, 02-19-2008 07:14 PM
      Whade - looking great - I can't wait for my console and F40 dash. Are you going to change carpet + firewall?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #267, 02-19-2008 07:38 PM
      The firewall cover is going to be vinyl. I'm even thinking of splitting it and going part black and part light tan. That way, I've got one line running around the entire car that'll match the dash and door panels. I already have the light tan carpet too. I just didn't want to install it yet and get it messed up from all the wiring and other work. I'm keeping the old carpet in there right now cuz it's easier on old tore up knees.



ferrobi MSG #268, 02-19-2008 07:47 PM
      That's what I thought - just did not want to mess up things while working on installation. Your idea on firewall vinyl has got me thinking. I might do that also but it would be all black.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #269, 02-19-2008 07:52 PM
      I'll have to see how things line up once I ge the dash and door panels in. My a-pillar trim and headliner are going to be black and the b-pillar trim will be part tan and part black also. But I'll have to see where the line falls as far as the firewall cover. Oh, I got floormats done too. Everything matches. It's gonna be purdy. I may have to do a test fit and then pull it all back out before I start doing the bodywork. That'll be a Kodak moment fer sur.



Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #270, 02-19-2008 09:40 PM
      My first question would be to why you put your alarm behind the seats, which is pretty accessable... My second thought would be, if you were to do this, which could be an alright idea if it was secret.. But why post pictures on the internet of your exact alarm system set up in an easy spot for theives to get to.

It just doesn't seem like a good idea to me at all. If there is someone looking at this thread, they might be able to find out where you live, and already know what kind of alarm you have, and can take all the time in the world to figure out which wires to cut ( or just cut them all..)

So within 10 seconds of breaking in they can disable your alarm. Just a thought.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #271, 02-19-2008 10:04 PM
      It is pretty accessible. But I'm going to take steps to both hide it and protect the wires from being cut. What you see in the pics is just a mockup to get everything working. Ultimately, if someone wants the car, they're going to get it no matter what I do.



Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #272, 02-19-2008 11:48 PM
      It all depends on how knowledgable the thief is. I've seen some pretty dumb thieves before...

If an alarm is under the dash tucked up behind a vent, it makes things more difficult for a theif. Even if you're going to to mount everything behind the seats similar to your mock up, even behind a false wall.. I still wouldn't post pictures on a public forum, or even tell anyone what kind of system I was running.

I dunno, I guess I'm just a little cautious about my alarms being as effective as possible.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #273, 03-07-2008 02:16 PM
      Toying with the idea of puting different mirrors on the car. Might even go this route.
http://www.kitcarsforum.com...mirrors-t7181.0.html
Can someone photoshop this picture and put 355 mirrors on it?

Just wanna see if it's going to look right. If someone can, could you do them in both black and red? Thanks in advance.



CoryFiero MSG #274, 03-07-2008 06:56 PM
      Those mirrors would be sexy... mmmmmm


Any new pics of the progress?


Cory


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #275, 03-07-2008 08:35 PM
      Work is slow going. Still working on getting the interior wiring done. But should be finished with that soon.



HC MSG #276, 03-08-2008 12:08 AM
      Here ya go man, still working on the black ones...


HC MSG #277, 03-08-2008 12:11 AM
      And the black ones...


Chris Hodson MSG #278, 03-08-2008 12:33 AM
      I vote black.

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #279, 03-08-2008 01:50 AM
      Either way would look good. Red with red molding (mayb B-pillar/sail window too - could you P-shop that?)
or black mirrors with black moldings like they are now.
For some reason on those mirrors the color is more noticeable than stock mirrors. At least in the P-shop pics.


CoryFiero MSG #280, 03-08-2008 01:52 AM
      Tough choice. I think I like the red. Whade, is your car going to be red? And what are you planning on doing with the trim? Keeping it black or making it body color?

I cannot wait to see how the interior come out. It is going to look really nice with the black/tan separated all the way around.


EDIT: Austrian and I were posting the same thing at the same time.. lol

and to add some trivia. My car was one of the few Fieros to come from the FACTORY with the mirrors and trim matched to the body color. What color is my car?

[This message has been edited by CoryFiero (edited 03-08-2008).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #281, 03-08-2008 08:20 AM
      Black. But now what time was the other train leaving Chicago?

Woohoo! Ownage of another one of my own pages. Hmm, doesn't seem that exciting anymore. I reckon I'll cancel the party now. =\

Thanx HC. Give me something to think about. I plan on leaving the trim black. Creates a nice parting line in the bodywork.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #282, 03-08-2008 04:02 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by HC:

Here ya go man, still working on the black ones...


I think body color would be the way. Who makes those side scoops & rockers? I need to replace a pair that were crushed by a forklift.


pavo_roddy MSG #283, 03-08-2008 04:35 PM
      HI all

Talk to fiero1fan about the scoops and rockers........



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #284, 03-09-2008 10:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pavo_roddy:

HI all

Talk to fiero1fan about the scoops and rockers........



All the way from Germany ? May have to just try & repair it.


War Hammer (oldsouthphoto@yahoo.com) MSG #285, 03-09-2008 10:58 AM
      I stopped by Whadeduck's last night to help out. His interior is at a level that is better than car manufacturers. The attention to detail is amazing!



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #286, 03-21-2008 07:06 AM
      Still trying to get the power mirror wiring hooked up. Spent three hours on it last night with no progress. It would seem like it was simple. Eight wires to hook up on the switch and eight wires to hook up on the wiring harness. But the best I could get out of it was the switch would work "up" but not "down." Or "left" but not "right" Extremely discouraging when something so small has ended up holding me back so much. I've stared at wiring diagrams and played with different ideas. Even took my tester to everything. Just can't seem to find the right combination to get it to work right.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #287, 03-23-2008 01:40 PM
      I'm thinking I fried the power mirror switch in trying to hook it up the wrong way several times. But I'm sending the panel back to Amida (Rob) tomorrow. He said he'll check it out and replace the switch if needed. So that leaves me to do other things on the car. Like wiring up the new backup lights.

This had to be the easiest wiring I've done on the car yet. No experimentation. Just clip, strip, nip, and plug. They work great. Took about thirty minutes to wire up. Now getting those lights into the rear bumper may take a little longer. But wow do they make a difference over stock. I might actually be able to see what's behind me at night when I'm backing up.



CoryFiero MSG #288, 03-23-2008 05:41 PM
      I spy an old interior sitting in a pile...

With the power mirrors. I don't know anything about the wiring. BUT I know my pass side mirror only moves "left" and "up".. not "down" or "right". Kind of the same problem?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #289, 03-23-2008 05:53 PM
      Yup. Two dashes. One I sold to War Hammer to go in another car he just bought. The other is going into my Indy. Your mirror problem sounds similar to mine. Maybe you have a bad switch too. I'll know more when Rob tests mine. If it turns out that it's not my mirror switch, I'll be completely stumped. Because my old mirror switch works fine and so do the mirrors, and eventually I was able to hook up the new switch the way it should have been. But I'm thinking, in those several other failed attempts, I ran voltage through somewhere it shouldn't have been and fried the switch. I'm thinking I should work on my headlights next or maybe install the backup lights in the bumper.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #290, 04-05-2008 10:19 PM
      Turns out it was a bad switch. Well, it was good when I got it then I screwed it up. But Rob was very quick in swapping out the switch and getting it back to me. So here's everything in the right place.


So the only thing I should have left to hook up within the console is one more thing for the alarm system and, when I get the new 355 nose from Rob, the driving lights will be hooked up to the appropriate switch.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #291, 04-05-2008 10:40 PM
      Looking good.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #292, 04-05-2008 11:07 PM
      Thanks. Wish I could come up with more time to work on it. It's so slow-going sometimes that it's frustrating. But at least I am making progress on it. It's slow, but it's still moving forward.



CoryFiero MSG #293, 04-11-2008 09:27 AM
      Bump.

Richard, what kind of gauges are you using? I see the pics of the back and the wiring. Lets see the front.

Cory


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #294, 04-11-2008 09:45 AM
      I'll take a picture and post tonight. They're VDO visions gauges. White numbers on a black face. Not too flashy.

edit: Added pictures of the gauges



ltlfrari (dave_ellis_@hotmail.com) MSG #295, 04-11-2008 10:24 AM
      'Ain't you got that car done yet ?

I'll be down there in June (but prob not in a Fiero), maybe come take at look where your at with it if poss.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #296, 04-11-2008 10:34 AM
      Could do that. Progress is slow. But it's still progress. I'm thinking I'll get the hush-mat installed this weekend and maybe the new interior door handles. I have work to do on my GT and the Indy and the truck this weekend. So I don't know if I'll have too much time.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #297, 04-11-2008 12:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

I have work to do on my GT and the Indy and the truck this weekend.


Does that make 3 Fieros in your driveway?

Look at what's coming out of the oven. Fi355 nose #!1 is finally painted & going onto my Formula test mule today. Building a jig right now for the grills and that will finally complete the design work for this new nose.
x





Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #298, 04-11-2008 12:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

I have work to do on my GT and the Indy and the truck this weekend.


Does that make 3 Fieros in your driveway?

Look at what's coming out of the oven. Fi355 nose #!1 is finally painted & going onto my Formula test mule today. Building a jig right now for the grills and that will finally complete the design work for this new nose.
x





Newbfiero (bobby_0958@hotmail.com) MSG #299, 04-11-2008 12:40 PM
      Nice work Amida


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #300, 04-11-2008 01:12 PM
      I have two in the driveway and one in the shop I rent. Sweet work as always Amida.


edit: Added pictures of Indy and GT in driveway



Monkeyman MSG #301, 05-30-2008 07:06 PM
      Whadeduck---Could you post some closer pics of the center section of the center console (where are the switches/HVAC controls are)? Just for curiousitys (sp?) sake. Also, if you are still having any troubles with the p/mirror wiring, check out Ogres Cave and look for my write up (from a few years ago).

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #302, 05-30-2008 10:05 PM
      I can get better pics for ya tomorrow. Got the mirror problem solved thanks to Amida's help once again.


Edit: Had these pics already if they help.






whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #303, 06-10-2008 01:48 PM
      Not much of an update as far as photographic evidense. Finally got the stupid rear view mirror to stick. Got the backup lights mounted in the bumper. Just kinda hung the headlight housings on the car. Mounted the new wider fenders from Fiero Warehouse. Ordered LED brake lights and I'm admitting defeat on puting the carbon fiber vinyl on the tail light panel and having it done professionally. Amida's working on the new nose. Should be but a couple of weeks or so. I won a passenger side mirror for a C5/C6 Vette off of eBay. So I'm gonna see how that looks. Some use it on their 355 kits. So I thought I'd give it a try.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #304, 06-11-2008 01:08 PM
      I like those mirrors, the installed angle of the mirrors appear to be just about right for the Fiero. If it's off a little you could just maybe use some shims to get the angle right.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #305, 06-11-2008 01:39 PM
      If the mirrors look ok on the car, the only thing that'll really concern me will be wiring them up. Not that I've had any problems like that before.



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #306, 06-11-2008 01:55 PM
      My dad used vette mirrors on is 355. The look nice on it but i think they might be too big for the fiero but who knows. You'll love your amida fi355 bumper. i love mine and in middle of installing it on my car right now.

Austin


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #307, 06-11-2008 02:11 PM
      Of course you know you have to post pictures. Kittens will die if you don't. You don't want kittens to die do you? lol



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #308, 06-11-2008 02:46 PM
      I will be posting pictures in my build thread later tonight. Kittens will not be dying today.

Austin


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #309, 06-11-2008 04:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

If the mirrors look ok on the car, the only thing that'll really concern me will be wiring them up. Not that I've had any problems like that before.



I thought the wiring is the same as the stock mirrors.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #310, 06-11-2008 04:58 PM
      If it is, that'd be sweet. No more weird-smelling mirror switches.



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #311, 06-11-2008 08:03 PM
      no kittens were killed in the taking of the pictures. The pics are up in my thread. Cant wait to see your car.

Austin


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #312, 06-11-2008 09:19 PM
      Uh oh. I think someone has taken o-fense to our discussion.
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Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #313, 06-12-2008 12:37 AM
      Whos tail light panel do you have and how do you like it?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #314, 06-12-2008 07:32 AM
      I'm using Kenneth Hines generation-one panel. (www.kahines.com) Bolts right in. Top quality piece.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #315, 06-18-2008 08:28 AM
      In trying to get the LED tail lights to work, I think I'm gonna have to wire in some Corvette pigtails. The new LED tail lights have a ridge around the top that makes it so they won't fit into the Fiero pigtail and tighten down. That should be corrected if I switch pigtails.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #316, 06-18-2008 08:05 PM
      Woohoo! Found a pigtail that works. Now I just have to find three more of them.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #317, 06-19-2008 01:32 AM
      Must see pics of LED tail lights

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #318, 06-19-2008 07:23 AM
      Once I get the other three pigtails, I'll snap some pics. Should be able to ge that done this weekend.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #319, 06-21-2008 09:05 PM
      Just kinda mocked up the Corvette mirror I got this week. I don't think it looks bad at all.





Think I'll wire up the tail lights tomorrow. And yes, those are the new wider front fenders on the car too.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #320, 06-21-2008 09:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:
And yes, those are the new wider front fenders on the car too.



For the rockers too.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #321, 06-21-2008 10:59 PM
      Actually, I'm using the side skirts from Dietmar. The widebody rockers in one of the pictures belong to War Hammer. The fenders I have are stand-alone wider fenders from Fiero Warehouse.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #322, 08-23-2008 10:22 PM
      Wow. Just saw the last time I updated. Anyway, here's a little something I did today. Won't get a chance to work on it tomorrow. Gotta go outta town for training. I finally got the tail light panel back with the carbon fiber on it. Got the LED tail lights all hooked up too. I also have Fiero1Fan's third LED brake light. Everything's REALLY bright.

Also got these hooked up today. Sounds a little more fitting now than the wimpy stock horn.

Hopefully my next update won't take so long.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #323, 08-24-2008 02:42 AM
      You got a shot of the tail lights on?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #324, 08-24-2008 07:46 PM
      I can see what I can come up with when I get back into town tomorrow. I'm in Rock Hill, SC right now. I have training in Charlotte tomorrow.



AquaHusky (david.t.cisneros@gmail.com) MSG #325, 08-25-2008 01:02 PM
      Does the air horns play La Cucaracha or however it is?

whodeanie (dean@glassworksga.com) MSG #326, 08-25-2008 01:18 PM
     



Where did you get this from? I have a complete 355 int but I want the controls for the center like yours.
do I have to go to the F-store to get it? and how much is is it?
thanks for any help.


pavo_roddy MSG #327, 08-25-2008 05:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whodeanie:


Where did you get this from? I have a complete 355 int but I want the controls for the center like yours.
do I have to go to the F-store to get it? and how much is is it?
thanks for any help.


HI all

Great car, keep up the good work!!!! Contact forum member "Amida", he makes this center console, and would most likely hook you up on the controls.....



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #328, 08-25-2008 08:51 PM
      Yup. The center console came from Amida (Rob). But the HVAC control came from Riceburner98.
Here's a shot of the rear lights with just the parking lights on.

And here's the brake lights. No one will be able to say they didn't see them.

Oh, and no. The horns are just more of a European sound.


MarineFiero (bmamalis@gmail.com) MSG #329, 08-25-2008 09:06 PM
      Wow, it's looking amazing. Good on you!

[This message has been edited by MarineFiero (edited 08-25-2008).]

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #330, 08-25-2008 09:11 PM
      That would be me at: FieroInteriors@Juno.com

I like those LEDs. Been seeing jumbo LEDs on Audis lately.

Rob
Fiero Interior Conversions
FierOvation
Seattle, WA. USA

[This message has been edited by Amida (edited 08-25-2008).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #331, 08-25-2008 10:35 PM
      If ya like the LED third brake light, talk to Fiero1Fan. It's a little pricey thanks to the exchange rate, but it was worth it to have all of the tail lights matching. While I'm thinking about it, can someone PS this to show me what Ferrario might look like in black?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #332, 08-31-2008 02:24 PM
      Woohoo! I gots me a 3800SC! I'll post pics later.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #333, 09-01-2008 12:21 PM
      Behold! The future heart of Ferrario!



64K and the oil looks clean. Came out of a Buick Regal.



topcat (tconey01@att.net) MSG #334, 09-01-2008 04:25 PM
      Great choice for an engine.. but I am biased

When does the engine swap start?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #335, 09-01-2008 05:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by topcat:

When does the engine swap start?


Once I finish with some of the other things like the electronics and mechanicals.



Stubby79 MSG #336, 09-01-2008 08:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Behold! The future heart of Ferrario!
64K and the oil looks clean. Came out of a Buick Regal.





whodeanie (dean@glassworksga.com) MSG #337, 09-02-2008 01:02 PM
      Wadeduck,
I just looked threw your thread. very nice build the car is going to look great when you get it done.
I can't wait to see more i just saved this thread.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #338, 09-06-2008 08:29 PM
      Grrrr. I swear I'm getting so frustrated with the wiring on this car. I spent six hours working on it today and actually went back a couple of steps. I had a hood plunger hooked up and operational to trigger the alarm if someone tried to get under the hood. Today, I tried to wire up another plunger in the trunk area to work as a trigger there. Now, not only did I not get the trunk trigger working, now the hood trigger stopped working too and the doors will unlock but barely lock. I hooked up the switch in the console to check the door-lock solenoids and they're working fine. So it's in the alarm system. I'm about ready to rip the damned thing out and take my chances with someone stealing it. If I ever finish the bloody thing that is. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.



Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #339, 09-06-2008 09:34 PM
      Advise: Bring it up here, and we'll finish them at the same time.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #340, 09-07-2008 07:48 PM
      Well, I cooled down a bit and went at it again today. Found out the problem with the doors (I think) is the battery was below charge. It was at around 9.5 volts or so. I left the charger on it for a while and all was good again. Worked on the triggers again too. Found out part of the problem with the trunk trigger is, not only does the switch have to be grounded, but so does the switch housing. Weird. But I grounded the bracket I made and that started working. I just have to make a stronger housing. I made it out of some thin aluminum bar stock (hense the grounding issue) and that just won't hold up. But now that I know the idea works, I can go from there. Then I started to work on getting my headlights installed. I bought the twin round light kit from Fiero1Fan. Finally painted the housing and started to install them. Then I found out that I should have covered up the parts immediately around the holes for the adjusters. I ended up grinding the paint away from there so the adjusters would fit. All went well until, while trying to install the lights, I broke one of the adjusters. So now I have to hunt down one of those to finish it up. Oh well. Not too bad I suppose. I just hope I can find another adjuster. Then I have to trim up the headlight housings and make them look all purdy. Got the driver's side working anyway.



Swedish Fiero (fiero@live.se) MSG #341, 10-20-2008 12:48 PM
      Whadeduck... Were did you buy the Steel Pegasus that you have on the taillights in this picture ??



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #342, 10-27-2008 11:21 AM
      How's progress on the interior?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #343, 10-27-2008 05:57 PM
      The Pegasus on the back came from F-I-E-R-O. But he's not making them anymore. Progress on the interior is slllllllooooooowwwwww. Got sick for a little while and other things keep take up my time like my job and family. But I should be able to get back at it soon.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #344, 10-27-2008 07:40 PM
      Is the alarm finished?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #345, 10-28-2008 10:14 AM
      Almost. I have to wire up a backup battery that I'm picking up this weekend and finish making a braket to mount the trunk trigger. Then the alarm will be finished. At least I think so anyway. I keep finding little things to do on it.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #346, 11-17-2008 08:28 PM
      What's new on the Eastern front?



Swedish Fiero (fiero@live.se) MSG #347, 12-07-2008 08:47 AM
      Bump.

Mr Ferrari (mratcliff@frontiernet.net) MSG #348, 12-07-2008 01:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Swedish Fiero:

Bump.


X2

I cant wait to see your interior in the car.. Rob is like some mad scientist making these complex interior bits and pieces.. I would love one of his interiors..


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #349, 12-08-2008 12:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr Ferrari:


X2

I cant wait to see your interior in the car.. Rob is like some mad scientist making these complex interior bits and pieces.. I would love one of his interiors..


What are you waiting for? I won't be making interiors forever ya know. I'll bet I can fab one for you & you install it before Whadeduck ever finishes his. Hint, hint !

[This message has been edited by Amida (edited 12-08-2008).]

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #350, 12-08-2008 04:41 PM
      Rob,

If you do Whade's interior stop by and do mine also (as soon as the car is out of the paint shop). I am not very far away from him (<2 hours).

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:


What are you waiting for? I won't be making interiors forever ya know. I'll bet I can fab one for you & you install it before Whadeduck ever finishes his. Hint, hint !





whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #351, 12-08-2008 06:42 PM
      If I had any feelings left, that mighta hurt. I'll get back to it and you shall all rue the day........Well.....start ruing. lol



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #352, 12-09-2008 11:35 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Rob,

If you do Whade's interior stop by and do mine also (as soon as the car is out of the paint shop). I am not very far away from him (<2 hours).

Nelson



What do you think I am, a migrant Fiero worker?



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #353, 12-09-2008 11:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

If I had any feelings left, that mighta hurt. I'll get back to it and you shall all rue the day........Well.....start ruing. lol



I knew that'll get you outa the wood work. Let's see some progress.


Swedish Fiero (fiero@live.se) MSG #354, 12-09-2008 11:49 AM
     

I want one of these F-I-E-R-O steel Pegasus emblems

Anybody knows of anyone who has one for sale ?



Sharkman MSG #355, 12-09-2008 06:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:
I'm thinking I fried the power mirror switch in trying to hook it up the wrong way several times. But I'm sending the panel back to Amida (Rob) tomorrow. He said he'll check it out and replace the switch if needed. So that leaves me to do other things on the car. Like wiring up the new backup lights.



Where did you get those backup lights. web adress?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #356, 12-09-2008 07:04 PM
      Click here http://spacecoastfieros.com/lindsey/ and go about half way down the page. He includes the lights and wiring. Really easy to do.



ferrobi MSG #357, 12-09-2008 07:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:


What do you think I am, a migrant Fiero worker?


FUNNY



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #358, 12-09-2008 07:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:


I knew that'll get you outa the wood work. Let's see some progress.


This is what's been consuming most of my time lately. My kitchen. The wallpaper comes off of the walls no problem. But the adhesive has turned to rock and refuses to come off even with many types of remover.

So I'm able to sand it down some and then seal it with Kilz. I'm also removing the countertops and backsplashes.

I'm going to do a knock-down finish to cover up the remaining adhesive, install crown molding, replace the countertops, refinish the cabinets, repaint the ceiling, install tile flooring, install a new backsplash, paint the walls a light gray, and replace the appliances. So I still have some work ahead of me. But I should be able to get back to Ferrario this weekend.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #359, 12-10-2008 10:42 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:




I'm going to do a knock-down finish to cover up the remaining adhesive, install crown molding, replace the countertops, refinish the cabinets, repaint the ceiling, install tile flooring, install a new backsplash, paint the walls a light gray, and replace the appliances. So I still have some work ahead of me. But I should be able to get back to Ferrario this weekend.


Nice fix. I would suggest painting the cabinets Rosso Corsa, and the fridge in gunmetal.




whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #360, 12-10-2008 12:50 PM
      The appliances are probably going to be stainless and black. I'm going to leave the cabinets the way they are. Just restain them. I'm going to get all of the wallpaper off the walls, get the countertops and backsplashes off, get the crown molding up, then paint the walls. Then I'll figure out what I'm going to do with everything else. I'm thinking the rest of the counterrops will come off too. I'm just leaving part of them on so I have something to work off of for the time being.



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #361, 12-10-2008 12:53 PM
      One can only hope. Just think what good advertising it would be for a Mera with one of your professionally installed interiors to be at car shows! All I need is for you to desire to travel a few thousand miles just to do this for me.

 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:


What do you think I am, a migrant Fiero worker?




whodeanie (dean@glassworksga.com) MSG #362, 12-10-2008 12:55 PM
      Nice Job!
next time you have to take wallpaper down try Downey fabric softener it also softens the glue and makes it easy to get off.
I know you could have used that info sooner. oh well next time.
how about some car updates now that the kitchen will be out of the way? LOL.


JPH87 (jphofeldt@msn.com) MSG #363, 12-10-2008 03:35 PM
      next time you have to take wallpaper down try Downey fabric softener it also softens the glue and makes it easy to get off. Learn something everyday

fieroboom (fieroboom@gmail.com) MSG #364, 12-10-2008 03:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whodeanie:

Nice Job!
next time you have to take wallpaper down try Downey fabric softener it also softens the glue and makes it easy to get off.
I know you could have used that info sooner. oh well next time.
how about some car updates now that the kitchen will be out of the way? LOL.


 
quote
Originally posted by JPH87:

next time you have to take wallpaper down try Downey fabric softener it also softens the glue and makes it easy to get off. Learn something everyday


Hey, I just thought I'd give you some advice for next time.... Try using Downey fabric softener.... hehehe



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #365, 12-10-2008 06:41 PM
      Tried the fabric softener already. I just kept ripping up the sheets on the jagged edges.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #366, 12-14-2008 07:26 PM
      While I haven't got anything done worth taking a picture of, I had a new paint idea I wanna see how it'll look. EMC209i did this mock up for me by painting it black and puting the C6 mirrors on it. Here's my idea. Black with a very subtle blue/white/silver real flame pattern. Anyone up to the challenge to see how that'll look? Also, the front turn signals are amber.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #367, 12-15-2008 12:29 PM
      That photo has too much shadow in it, try using a better shot with the car in better lighting.

85SEnochie (eqoflife@hotmail.com) MSG #368, 12-15-2008 12:44 PM
      Flame on here is a quicky are you thinking of something like this? If you have a picture of what you would like for a flame job post it and I will try again.

[This message has been edited by 85SEnochie (edited 12-15-2008).]

Sleek (blaster2008@aol.com) MSG #369, 12-15-2008 12:54 PM
      Please please don't put flames on that car.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #370, 12-15-2008 01:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85SEnochie:

Flame on here is a quicky are you thinking of something like this? If you have a picture of what you would like for a flame job post it and I will try again.





I was thinking more around the very front of the car and very subtle. Something you wouldn't really see unless you were within ten feet or so of the car. I don't know if you could even get it to show up.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #371, 12-15-2008 01:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

That photo has too much shadow in it, try using a better shot with the car in better lighting.


Because it's not my car (It's MaxQ's), I can't really get a better shot than that. Would it be better to start with the red version?



85SEnochie (eqoflife@hotmail.com) MSG #372, 12-15-2008 02:21 PM
      I could not get my program to make it transparent so I brought it more to the front and maybe a little less decal?




Sharkman MSG #373, 12-15-2008 05:35 PM
     
 
quote
[B]


I think this is the best one


Swedish Fiero (fiero@live.se) MSG #374, 12-16-2008 12:00 PM
      Agree...



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #375, 12-18-2008 10:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85SEnochie:

I could not get my program to make it transparent so I brought it more to the front and maybe a little less decal?




I'm not a flame guy, but if you make it subtle enough, like a ghost image, where you'll need to do a double take before you notice it then that'll be cool.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #376, 12-19-2008 05:19 AM
      That's what I was thinking of. May be really difficult to do in photoshop though.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #377, 12-21-2008 09:00 PM
      A small update. Been working on creating adapters to correct the angular differrence with the C6 mirrors. It's about five degrees. That translates to about a 3/16" wedge. I glued two pieces of 1/8" plastic together and started drilling the appropriate holes for the mirror. Then I used a dremel and a sander to grind down the plastic to fit the profile of the mirror.





Now I just need to figure out a way to cut the adapter on a five-degree wedge with my mitre saw without chopping my fingers off.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #378, 12-21-2008 09:16 PM
      A sanding belt will do the trick, or a disc sander followed up with course sand paper on a flat surface. What's different compared to C5?



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #379, 12-21-2008 09:52 PM
      The mirrors on a C5 and a C6 are the same I believe. To get the right angle, I need to have something that can cut or grind at precise angles. I'll also get something that'll look like it was built for the car. What I'm trying now is gluing the adapter to a piece of wood long enough to get my fingers away from the saw blade. Maybe it'll work. =\



Tony Kania MSG #380, 12-21-2008 10:19 PM
      Hey there. Like you say, just glue it to a piece of wood that is greater in diameter than your plastic design, and plenty long enough to hold on to safely. Wait for it to dry.....wait for it.....Then just cut it on a miter. When done with your 5 degree cut, lop it off of the wood. I have been in custom home building for most of my life. have done this with a lot of intricate work. Good luck, you are on the right track.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #381, 12-21-2008 10:25 PM
      As soon as the glue dries, I'll try it. Hopefully I'll still have fingers to type with.



Spoilt_87fiero MSG #382, 12-21-2008 10:56 PM
      Well if you do happen to get a finger or two just call Rick. With all of the spare parts that he has i'm sure he has a couple of fingers laying around. j/k becareful and its looking good


i just noticed i've been a member for almost a year know

[This message has been edited by Spoilt_87fiero (edited 12-21-2008).]

fieroboom (fieroboom@gmail.com) MSG #383, 12-24-2008 11:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

While I haven't got anything done worth taking a picture of, I had a new paint idea I wanna see how it'll look. EMC209i did this mock up for me by painting it black and puting the C6 mirrors on it. Here's my idea. Black with a very subtle blue/white/silver real flame pattern. Anyone up to the challenge to see how that'll look? Also, the front turn signals are amber.





Is this what you're looking for?



Let me know it you like it/can't see it/etc



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #384, 12-24-2008 12:47 PM
      Black looks good, or even black purple.

fieroboom (fieroboom@gmail.com) MSG #385, 12-24-2008 04:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

Black looks good, or even black purple.


For the color of the car...?

Are you saying black car & purple flames, or black purple, as in the awesome really dark purple for the car?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #386, 12-24-2008 07:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fieroboom:


Is this what you're looking for?



Let me know it you like it/can't see it/etc



Getting there. That's pretty much what I was thinking about. Keep working your magic.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #387, 12-25-2008 01:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fieroboom:


For the color of the car...?

Are you saying black car & purple flames, or black purple, as in the awesome really dark purple for the car?


Really, really dark purple...almost black with ghosted purple flames. Wouldn't that be cool?




Tony Kania MSG #388, 12-25-2008 02:21 PM
      My 89 Mustang might be that color. Was always called purple, black, blue, etc...


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #389, 12-25-2008 11:27 PM
      Wanna keep it black or red. Keep in mind that I have to keep colors that will go with the tan and black interior. One idea I'm throwing around is having it wrapped too. The flames might be easier to do that way too.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #390, 12-26-2008 06:08 PM
      I can't keep this one a secret any longer. I'm going to have my headers I bought for my 3800sc reworked to my liking and then I'll have them ceramic coated. The coaters are in Nashville, TN, so I thought of having the welding done in Nashville as well. I emailed her, and Jessi Combs said that she'd reweld my headers. How freakin' cool is that!? It won't be until after the first of the year. But I think it'll be freakin' awesome to have her name on my car.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #391, 02-19-2009 06:17 PM
      Wow! Didn't realize how long it's been since I updated. This weekend, I'm hoping to get my mirrors finished, my headlights installed and my fenders, nose, and hood all installed. At least to the point where I can do the fine tuning on them. I still have major surgery to do on the hood by installing a vent.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #392, 02-22-2009 05:47 PM
      Ok. Got some things done on the car this weekend. Not as much as I wanted. But more than nothing. The mirrors are finally corrected for the five degree differrence from the Corvette doors to Fiero doors. The adapters I was working on just didn't work out. So I ended up just grinding the right angle into the mirrors.

Yippee! I have folding mirrors now.

I think they give the car a different look.

I also got the fenders off and trimed up. At the tops, they were kind of "bunching up" the windshield panel.

Once I trimed them back a bit, they fit a lot better. Oh, if you forgot, these are wider fiberglass front fenders.

I was also able to finally get the dual headlights mounted. If anyone else is about to do this, buy an extra set of hardware. I broke three of the clips that you mount in the headlight bezels trying to snap the light modules in. But that's all for now. Hopefully it won't be as long before I update again.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #393, 02-26-2009 09:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:




Mirros look good.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #394, 03-15-2009 10:13 AM
      Some updates. Working on getting the nose mounted. Ran into a little snag. When I initially mounted the top part of the nose, the wider fiberglass fenders didn't line up. So I checked everything out by removing the new fenders and reinstalling the old stock fenders. Then everything lined up. So, after reinstalling the new fiberglass fenders, I commenced getting everything to line up. What I found was that the driver's side fender was warped. The passenger side is fine. So Paul (War Hammer) recommended that I clamp the fender in the appropriate position and then hit it with a heat gun. So far, so good. The fender is relaxing under heat. Then, once it cools, it's in a better position than before. I want to go through the heat/cool cycle one more time and then it should be good to go. I also want to add some metal backing along the beltline between the fender and nose to aide alignment and support.






Vogelsong (rockytrax@comcast.net) MSG #395, 03-15-2009 01:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

I think this is the best one



If the car in red had wide rear IMSA fenders on it with that color it would be Fiero p0rn .




Sebringdcp (gwr1800@comcast.net) MSG #396, 03-17-2009 08:47 PM
      If your still looking for a deep looking blue/black, there is an old painters trick you could use. Paint the car with a black base coat then follow that with about 3 coats of blue candy paint. Follow with clearcoat. It will look black straight on and have blue highlights whenever you get a light reflection thru the paint or the right angle of light on the body.

pontiackid86 (phllyracer@aol.com) MSG #397, 03-17-2009 10:41 PM
      not bad with the mirrors probabley what ill end up doing with my mirrors. im doing an old aurora set up

Swedish Fiero (fiero@live.se) MSG #398, 06-02-2009 02:19 PM
      Bump

CETICARS MSG #399, 06-03-2009 05:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Wow. Just saw the last time I updated. Anyway, here's a little something I did today. Won't get a chance to work on it tomorrow. Gotta go outta town for training. I finally got the tail light panel back with the carbon fiber on it. Got the LED tail lights all hooked up too. I also have Fiero1Fan's third LED brake light. Everything's REALLY bright.




trying to find one of these tail light panels

[This message has been edited by CETICARS (edited 06-03-2009).]

Scipio MSG #400, 06-03-2009 05:32 PM
      http://www.kahines.com./

Or another alternative.

http://spacecoastfieros.com/lindsey/gtstyle.html


ace5514 (aacerra@yahoo.com) MSG #401, 06-04-2009 06:03 PM
      question about the tail lights,
how do you get the blinkers to work with the led lights.
they are on a different light (amber) which is separate from the tail lights. i want to do something similar.
thanks
al


wow page 11 is all MINE! WHOO HOO!!

[This message has been edited by ace5514 (edited 06-06-2009).]

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #402, 07-03-2009 11:52 AM
      Sure has been quiet on this thread.


grkboy707 (gnoplos@gmail.com) MSG #403, 07-03-2009 12:29 PM
      if i were you, it would definitely be ferrari red! your color scheme is nice for any other car, but if your makin a ferrari, i dont see any other option!

Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #404, 07-03-2009 10:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pontiackid86:

not bad with the mirrors probabley what ill end up doing with my mirrors. im doing an old aurora set up


....what?


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #405, 07-03-2009 10:59 PM
      There are three of us in the Carolinas that hope you volunteer to come here and help us install the new interiors. Then you could have a few more "before/after" pictures.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

Sure has been quiet on this thread.




Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #406, 07-04-2009 01:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

There are three of us in the Carolinas that hope you volunteer to come here and help us install the new interiors. Then you could have a few more "before/after" pictures.

Nelson



What?...You mean you still haven't installed it yet? It only takes a weekend to at least get the panels fitted. The wiring is a whole nother job.


Swedish Fiero (fiero@live.se) MSG #407, 07-04-2009 05:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

There are three of us in the Carolinas that hope you volunteer to come here and help us install the new interiors. Then you could have a few more "before/after" pictures.

Nelson



That´s just asking to much from the Man !! :/

[This message has been edited by Swedish Fiero (edited 07-04-2009).]

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #408, 07-04-2009 10:58 AM
      Sorry it's been so quiet on this thread. But I've been able to get nothing done on the car at all in the last several weeks. My brother moved here temporarily then moved to Australia, been up to my eyeballs at work, visited my little brother in South Dakota for a week, and helped get Paul (War Hammer) off to Wyotech.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #409, 08-15-2009 03:41 PM
      Not much to report really. Still working like crazy. But last weekend, I went to Columbia and picked up a donor car to use for my 3800SC swap. It's already completed on this car and it's also an '88 coupe. So all I should have to do is swap the drivetrain from one car to the other and my swap is complete. The car runs. Drove it from Columbia to Myrtle Beach without a problem. I don't want to just modify the donor because I've already done so much to the other car that it'd be like starting over again. But I won't be needing the other 3800SC or tranny that I originally got for it. So if anyone's interested, it's up for sale.




Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #410, 08-16-2009 09:40 AM
      Stop spending more money & start working on that car!

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #411, 12-01-2009 01:44 AM
      Bump. It's very quiet on this thread.


Spoilt_87fiero MSG #412, 01-14-2010 09:19 PM
      Bump. Also do you still have the setup for sale Richard?

If so let me know. Thanks, Daniel


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #413, 02-15-2010 07:44 AM
      Unfortunately, due to the fact that I have absolutely no time to work on her anymore, I'm going to have to sell Ferrario. I have no place to put her that doesn't cost me $400 a month. I'm in Charleston right now. Up to my knees in mud for work. May be here another week. But I'm looking at reasonable offers. I'll also answer any questions you may have.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #414, 02-15-2010 12:56 PM
      No use spending $400/month & getting nothing done. Better to send it to Whodeanie & have him finish it up for you.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #415, 02-15-2010 05:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

No use spending $400/month & getting nothing done. Better to send it to Whodeanie & have him finish it up for you.


That is exactly what i was thinking !


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #416, 02-15-2010 10:23 PM
      Money to finish the project has become an issue as well.



N3M3S1S (n3m3s1s.357@gmail.com) MSG #417, 02-15-2010 11:10 PM
      Did you ever sell the red "donor" that had the 3800 already in it?

Valkyrie (chris@crabb.ca) MSG #418, 02-16-2010 12:39 AM
      The interesting ones always go up for sale when I have no money. Drat!



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #419, 02-16-2010 08:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by N3M3S1S:

Did you ever sell the red "donor" that had the 3800 already in it?


Yes. It went to someone in North Carolina. I'm thinking that, if I can't find a buyer for Ferrario, I may end up parting her out. That's not what I want to do. But If I have to, I have to.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #420, 02-16-2010 07:31 PM
      Bump for the night crowd.



Valkyrie (chris@crabb.ca) MSG #421, 02-16-2010 09:50 PM
      How much are you thinking of selling for?

Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #422, 02-17-2010 04:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Unfortunately, due to the fact that I have absolutely no time to work on her anymore, I'm going to have to sell Ferrario. I have no place to put her that doesn't cost me $400 a month. I'm in Charleston right now. Up to my knees in mud for work. May be here another week. But I'm looking at reasonable offers. I'll also answer any questions you may have.



Ok there are a lot of lovers of this car have to say i am one who would like to own your car. I am not a buyer i am too far away and up to my elbows in my own build.



topcat (tconey01@att.net) MSG #423, 02-21-2010 03:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Unfortunately, due to the fact that I have absolutely no time to work on her anymore, I'm going to have to sell Ferrario. I have no place to put her that doesn't cost me $400 a month. I'm in Charleston right now. Up to my knees in mud for work. May be here another week. But I'm looking at reasonable offers. I'll also answer any questions you may have.



Whade are you in Charleston? The Boeing site?

Shoot me a PM if you get a chance.



CoryFiero MSG #424, 02-27-2010 06:05 PM
      Or you could be at the Cummins site? Either way if you are still here i'll buy you a beer!

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #425, 02-28-2010 10:52 AM
      Giving up after all that? $400/month for how many months adds up I suppose....Maybe a lesson here somewhere.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #426, 07-25-2010 09:27 PM
      Haven't been very successful in parting her out. So I'm going to finish her with what I have. Worked on her some today. Gonna have to really keep my nose in it to finish her.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #427, 07-27-2010 04:52 PM
      This is how she was sitting as of Sunday. It'll be a few more days before I work on her again. But some progress is better than no progress I 'spose.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #428, 08-02-2010 11:26 AM
      Got some work accomplished yesterday. Did the suspension and brake work on the right front. Pics to follow.




whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #429, 08-02-2010 10:39 PM
      Dropped the car on the right-front. Gonna do the left front tomorrow hopefully.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #430, 08-03-2010 07:17 AM
      Gonna have to do some work on the front fenders. They don't quite want to fit right. War Hammer, now that he's back here, said he'd help me get the fiberglass fenders straightened out. The 12" Corvette brake kit went together easily and fills the space behind the wheel nicely. Dropping the front by about two inches and I'll either level out the rear of the car or leave some rake in it. I have coilovers on the rear, so they're fully adjustable.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #431, 08-04-2010 08:06 AM
      I wanted to thank Cliff for moving my thread to the construction zone. Had a bit of a setback last night. Taking the left-front apart, I discovered the previous owner replaced suspension components on one side and not the other. The left-front is pretty much kaplinkaplook. So I have to replace the upper and lower balljoints, sway bar end links and shocks. It'll take a bit to gather everything to put it all back together. I only hope I don't also have to replace the bushings.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #432, 08-06-2010 11:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

I wanted to thank Cliff for moving my thread to the construction zone. Had a bit of a setback last night. Taking the left-front apart, I discovered the previous owner replaced suspension components on one side and not the other. The left-front is pretty much kaplinkaplook. So I have to replace the upper and lower balljoints, sway bar end links and shocks. It'll take a bit to gather everything to put it all back together. I only hope I don't also have to replace the bushings.



Wade,
I have a set of front sway bar end links with poly bushings, still in the package.
They're yours for free.
All you need to do is pick them up.



ethan555 MSG #433, 08-06-2010 05:22 PM
      looking nice.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #434, 08-11-2010 11:15 AM
      Just a bump. But I should start back to work on it next week. Waiting on suspension parts for the moment.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #435, 08-18-2010 10:33 AM
      Suspension pieces are in. A big thanks to Rodney. Should have some time this weekend to rebuild the front end and get it back on the ground.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #436, 09-09-2010 07:27 AM
      Got the control arms at a shop having the old ball joints and bushings pressed out and the new ones in. Should have them all back by the weekend to be able to put everything back together. Also found out that Ferrario had a wee fender bender during it's previous life. There's a slight tweak on the left-front. I'm checking it out to make sure it's just a tweak.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #437, 09-13-2010 10:38 AM
      Rebuilt the rack and pinion last night. Slowly but surely getting everything put back together.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #438, 09-18-2010 11:45 PM
      Got the front suspension almost together tonight. Then I discovered I didn't have any grease for my grease gun. It might go back on the ground tomorrow. Still much work to be done.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #439, 10-30-2010 07:45 PM
      Whadeduck has a lot going on right now so I thought I would post a couple of pics.
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Pontiac filled in with panel adheasive. (This stuff is tough)
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Work that has been done on the rear of the car. (new spoiler and back bumper installed.
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He needs your prayers - his father is very ill.

Without Richard's (Whadeduck) help I couldn't get my car finished. I can't thank him enough.

Thanks,
Paul



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #440, 11-21-2010 04:57 PM
      Slowly getting back to work on her after being away for a few weeks.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #441, 11-27-2010 01:31 PM
      How sweet is this? Won an Ebay auction for what I thought was the wiring for only the power mirrors and windows. It showed up in the mail today with the wiring for the locks attached too. Woohoo! I'm going to clean everything up on it then re-rewire the car.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #442, 02-28-2011 01:02 AM
      Wow! It's been a bit since I've posted. But I really haven't gotten anything accomplished either. But I was able to finally finish the upholstery. Look ma, twins!



dratts (dratts2@gmail.com) MSG #443, 03-01-2011 01:57 PM
      Good to know you're still going. I always wonder how to pronounce whadeduck. What a duck? Wade duck?

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #444, 03-01-2011 02:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by dratts:

Good to know you're still going. I always wonder how to pronounce whadeduck. What a duck? Wade duck?


It's pronounced "Wa-day" instead of Wade. Makes it sound more classy. It's a nickname I picked up looooooong time ago. It's a long story.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #445, 03-26-2011 06:18 PM
      Hadn't had much time to work on the car lately. Been uber busy at work.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #446, 03-27-2011 09:05 PM
      Worked on it some tonight. Didn't get too much accomplished as my cordeless drill ran outta juice. But I was able to get the driver's side scoop and side skirt to fit properly.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #447, 07-08-2011 10:09 AM
      Work has had me out of town four to five days a week lately. So not much time to work on her. But I'm hoping to get something done on the wiring this weekend. I am finding out that I'm getting too old to be hopping in and out of catch basins and crawling through pipes. I'm sore as can be today.



dratts (dratts2@gmail.com) MSG #448, 07-08-2011 10:28 PM
      Welcome to the old guy club! We're not getting older, we're getting better. Yeah, right.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #449, 07-14-2011 10:07 AM
      Hopefully getting a little more done this weekend. Rewiring suuuuuuxxxxx! No pics to show really. All just looks like spaghetti.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #450, 07-18-2011 11:41 AM
      Good to see that you're still at it.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #451, 07-18-2011 10:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

Good to see that you're still at it.


Still at it. Just working out of town four to five days a week. So progress will be reaaaaaaallllllyyyyy sloooooooooooowwww. =/ By the by, I sent you an email.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #452, 07-24-2011 01:07 AM
      Worked on getting the wiring done until about 12:30 tonight. Still much to do. Now my fingers are sore and they're covered in the old adhesive from the old black tape. I'm rewrapping everything. Damn my OCD!



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #453, 07-24-2011 08:45 PM
      Woohoo! The doors finally be rewired. Both doors now have all of the wiring back in them. Tested them by running jumpers and everything works.



2Sly4U MSG #454, 07-29-2011 02:39 PM
      Hope this inspires you to keep going. I am new to the forum, and saw your post asking for some photoshop work. Maybe this gets closer to what you are looking for.







whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #455, 07-29-2011 08:08 PM
      Wow! Nice work. I haven't decided on a color quite yet. I'll obsess over it more, see a therapist, drink heavily, then come to a conclusion about what color to make her. So I may call on your mad skilz later on. Welcome to the forum.



Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #456, 07-30-2011 01:25 AM
      I like those rockers.

BlackThunderGT MSG #457, 07-30-2011 05:10 AM
      Wow that fire is awesome!

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #458, 07-30-2011 07:41 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by Amida:

I like those rockers.


Wish I still had them. That part of the design will have to change. Although I would like to see what Whodeanie has in mind. I've heard he may be producing a similar design side skirt.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #459, 07-31-2011 04:44 PM
     

Whadeduck you have a pm.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #460, 08-06-2011 10:35 PM
      Still working on the wiring. Getting there though.



2Sly4U MSG #461, 08-09-2011 02:59 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by BlackThunderGT:

Wow that fire is awesome!


It is called "True Fire" by Mike Lavallee. Check out his site http://www.killerpaint.com


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #462, 08-18-2011 01:48 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by whadeduck:


Wish I still had them. That part of the design will have to change. Although I would like to see what Whodeanie has in mind. I've heard he may be producing a similar design side skirt.



I saw them while i was at his shop, he is not finished but they look sharp.

Sad part is he is a little leary about producing them. I think we need to give him a little nudge and support to get them done !


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #463, 08-28-2011 09:58 PM
      Still working on rewiring the power accessories. Got the power windows to work but the power locks seem to be dead. Gotta test the relay and the switches. But that's gonna have to wait until next weekend as I'm going out of town.



ferrobi MSG #464, 08-28-2011 10:20 PM
     

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #465, 08-28-2011 10:42 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by ferrobi:



Aw now that's just mean.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #466, 09-12-2011 07:40 PM
      This is part of what's been taking so long.



I should be able to finish it up this coming weekend.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #467, 09-25-2011 08:49 PM
      Still slow-going. But I think I have most, if not all, of the wiring figured out now. I'm going to be out of town for the week again. So I can't finish the wiring completely until at least next weekend. But getting there anyway. Even got the trunk and hood triggers to work as well as starting to wire in a trunk light. Mine's a base coupe, so it didn't come with one.



War Hammer (oldsouthphoto@yahoo.com) MSG #468, 09-28-2011 06:25 PM
      Looks like spaghetti.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #469, 09-28-2011 09:56 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by War Hammer:

Looks like spaghetti.


Wait'll I get a hold of War Hammer.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #470, 10-01-2011 10:48 PM
      Got more of the wiring done tonight. Everything seems to work except the trunk and hood triggers. I have them both hooked up to one wire going into the alarm. Doesn't seem to want to work that way. Any suggestions?



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #471, 10-01-2011 11:17 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by whadeduck:

Got more of the wiring done tonight. Everything seems to work except the trunk and hood triggers. I have them both hooked up to one wire going into the alarm. Doesn't seem to want to work that way. Any suggestions?



Alarm / Remote entry systems usually do not provide enough voltage through the alarm controller box to actuate the latch mechanism(s). You will need to run the latch trigger output from the alarm controller box to a *relay* that will in turn supply activation voltage to the latch.
This same issue drove me nuts on my keyless entry install until an helpful tech. / installer at Best Buy clued me in.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #472, 10-02-2011 07:47 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by randye:


Alarm / Remote entry systems usually do not provide enough voltage through the alarm controller box to actuate the latch mechanism(s). You will need to run the latch trigger output from the alarm controller box to a *relay* that will in turn supply activation voltage to the latch.
This same issue drove me nuts on my keyless entry install until an helpful tech. / installer at Best Buy clued me in.


It's weird though. I can wire one of them up and it's fine. Wire both of them up and it won't work off of either.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #473, 10-08-2011 07:38 PM
      Well, it's official. Ferrario will be black. War Hammer was nice enough to then tell me that I need to decide on which black now. He included a maniacle belly laugh with that addition. I continued to work on the wiring tonight and will tomorrow. Frustrating cars for wiring these Fieros are. I'm going to have to wire in another relay to get the hood trigger to work. But it's getting there. I was able to get the trunk light working tonight though. Baby steps.



ls1ta4fiero (trick4u2@myspace.com) MSG #474, 10-09-2011 05:24 AM
      can you inbox me and tell me how much did it cost you to wire everything in place... plus the price you payed for the interior work and tail led lights etc does mida do work on f40 interior replicas?

great work youve done so far congrats on an awsome ride!


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #475, 10-09-2011 09:31 AM
      You have a PM.



War Hammer (oldsouthphoto@yahoo.com) MSG #476, 10-10-2011 12:15 AM
      Rob (AMIDA) does do f40 interiors but I have no idea of the cost. His work is fantastic though.

You can see it in ferrobi's thread. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000034.html

Paul


 
quote
Originally posted by ls1ta4fiero:

can you inbox me and tell me how much did it cost you to wire everything in place... plus the price you payed for the interior work and tail led lights etc does mida do work on f40 interior replicas?

great work youve done so far congrats on an awsome ride!



ferrobi MSG #477, 10-10-2011 07:49 PM
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[This message has been edited by ferrobi (edited 10-26-2011).]

War Hammer (oldsouthphoto@yahoo.com) MSG #478, 10-26-2011 09:51 AM
      Richard "Whadeduck" isn't the only one giving Ferrario some lovin'.

Here is some of the spoiler work I have been doing for him.

I am installing a MadArch spoiler on Ferrario to give it a slightly more aggressive look than the sage one that he had before.

First I bonded the spoiler on using structural adhesive. The 2 layers of mat and resin on top.




Next I will glass the bottom and sides.

The end caps will take the most work as they were designed for the wide body. I will have to cut them up an reshape them.

I will keep you posted.

Paul



Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #479, 10-28-2011 09:48 AM
      That looks just like the Sage spoiler I bought from Wade. Looks good!

Austin



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whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #480, 10-28-2011 02:00 PM
      I think the Archie piece might be a little taller than Sage's. But the same concept. BTW Vendetta, your car looks awesome.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #481, 11-08-2011 11:04 PM
      At last!!! Finally got all of the wiring done on her tonight. I'll post pictures later. But as far as I can tell, after testing, everything works. Now on to the mechanicals.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #482, 11-11-2011 01:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

At last!!! Finally got all of the wiring done on her tonight. I'll post pictures later. But as far as I can tell, after testing, everything works. Now on to the mechanicals.



How did that trunk latch solenoid thing work out?


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #483, 11-11-2011 02:50 PM
      Had to use a separate relay to be able to get the trunk and hood triggers to both work. But it's all working now.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #484, 11-11-2011 07:51 PM
      This weekend, hopefully, I'll be able to put everything back on to mock it up to include the interior. Then also put the rear coil overs on and drop the rear end.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #485, 11-13-2011 10:54 PM
      As promised, pics!
Here's the trunk light switch I was able to wire up. The pic beneath it is the 12-LED light I adapted to the original trunk light lens. Although the car didn't originally come with one. So I had to make one.




Here is the alarm system. I'm going to change the location though. So now everything alarm-wise and keyless entry-wise works.


Here's the wiring behind where the subwoofer's going.


I also got the mirror powered up.


Here was everything as of a couple of days ago.


Tonight I mocked up the dash and the console pieces to find out I have to do a little work to get everything to fit. But at least it's progress.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #486, 11-23-2011 09:03 AM
      A frustrating night the other night. Put the door skins on to start lining everything up and nothing lines up. Going to have to pull everything off and start again to get it all where it needs to be so it can be fine tuned. I'm not going anywhere or doing anything else for Thanksgiving. So I should be able to get a good bit of work done on it over the next four days.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #487, 11-26-2011 07:02 AM
      Started last night pulling the rear suspension off to convert to coil overs. I'm also, while I'm back there, going to install a rear sway bar and replace the clutch. Hopefully it'll be a productive weekend.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #488, 11-29-2011 08:29 AM
      It was a partially productive weekend. Got everything diassembled. Cradle's out and the rear suspension is as well. Got the old clutch out and was going to install a new flywheel I had only to find out it wasn't the right piece. So I cleaned up the original flywheel, roughed it up a bit to give it bite, cleaned it and tried to install the new clutch only to snap one of the pressure plate bots off. Got the broken bolt out of the flywheel without damaging it. Now I'm searching for new bolts. But I was able to get the rear sway bar installed. As soon as I get the bolts, I'll start reassembling everything. Baby steps. lol



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #489, 12-04-2011 12:10 AM
     

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #490, 12-06-2011 03:18 PM
      Not having a fun time with the car at the moment. Having a LOT of difficulty getting the transmission reinstalled. But I WILL be triumphant! lol



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #491, 12-22-2011 01:18 PM
      Got the transmission reinstalled. But I decided to finally use the clutch line I bought several years ago from the Fiero Store and it turned out to be too short. I'm working with them now to try and figure out what the problem may be. If I can't figure it out, I'll have to put the old line back on and hope for the best. I've also spent the last few days fighting bronchitis. So not a lot has been accomplished.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #492, 12-23-2011 11:12 PM
      Got everything put back together tonight to include the coil overs. Even switched out some new Accel coil packs. Tomorrow I'll make some adjustments, put the brakes back on and hopefully get her back on the ground.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #493, 12-27-2011 01:32 AM
      pics, pics.

whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #494, 12-27-2011 03:33 PM
      I'll post some later tonight. Slow going over the past few weeks because of bronchitis. Ya know, there actually is a limit as to how much lung tissue you can cough up. But at least now the stuff's turned from brown to black. It's ok though. I'll run out of lungs soon enough and the coughing will stop. lol



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #495, 12-28-2011 02:36 PM
      Ok, here's a couple of quick pics. Here's the rear suspension finally finished. With the exception of adjusting the coil overs, hooking up the e-brake, and bleeding the brakes.


Here's the car on the ground after a few weeks in the air. Nice to see Ferrario on all four again. Still have to take some height out of the back. Making slow but sure progress.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #496, 12-31-2011 07:54 PM
      Got the fuel tank out tonight. Found out the pump is bad. Deader than a dorrnail. So I'm going to drain the tank and put in a new pump. A Delco one. At least that's the one I keep hearing is the only one you should buy because the other's fail too quickly. But that'll have to wait until the stores are open on Monday.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #497, 01-03-2012 09:09 AM
      I have everything buttoned up on the car and the coil overs adjusted. The measurments are two inches at the front fenders and three at the rear. The new fuel pump is in. Got a few more things and then I'll start putting the body back together.







whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #498, 01-07-2012 08:52 PM
      It's alive!! But now the manifold glows a bit. Any suggestions as to what may be causing that?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #499, 01-24-2012 08:34 PM
      Wadeduck

How is the wing coming along ??

I still think you need one of Amida's noses.,...again.

The new one looks pretty sharp.


whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #500, 11-18-2012 09:02 PM
      As of today, Ferrario is no more. I have mixed emotions about it. On the one hand, the project I was, at one time, so excited about, is no longer mine. On the other hand, she's now in the hands of her new owner and on the start of a new life. I hated to se her go, but I knew I could no longer take care of her.



whadeduck (richardjborton@gmail.com) MSG #501, 03-03-2013 05:05 PM
      Although my current situation dictated that I had to get rid of Ferrario. She will live again one day. Next time however, I'll plan things a LOT better.



deloreanant MSG #502, 03-03-2013 06:34 PM
      That's really good to hear.