How am I doing?
Topic started by: randye, Date: 11-10-2006 05:26 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000111.html


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #1, 11-10-2006 05:26 PM
      Being a relative "short timer" on PFF, first off I need to say thanks to all those that have generously shared their knowledge and experience here. This forum has been my principle guide, (along with a factory shop manual), to even getting this far.
This is my 87GT as it was about 1 week ago, fitting and reassembling body panels after panel-off paint, (Millennium Yellow)
Wheels are HP Evo 18" with Nexen tires and I'm STILL waiting on the Intrax lowering springs, (back ordered!)

WAY too much done to the car to list here, but let's just say that everything in the interior is new except the steering wheel and about 60% of the exterior is new or refurbished and the stock 2.8 has been gone through fairly throughly.

Just thought I'd ask....How am I doing so far?

Did I mention this is my first Fiero?



Randy



fastback 88 (jeremy54235@peoplepc.com) MSG #2, 11-10-2006 05:32 PM
      IT LOOKS GREAT!!!!!!

84fierotrevor (trevorbborden@gmail.com) MSG #3, 11-10-2006 05:48 PM
      that car looks great so far!! keep up the good work

Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #4, 11-10-2006 05:57 PM
      You're doing real well. Keep up the good work!! Just one small thing. Post more pix!!

darkhorizon MSG #5, 11-10-2006 05:59 PM
      Everything but the lowering kit seems to be there..

neat tail lights.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #6, 11-10-2006 06:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

You're doing real well. Keep up the good work!! Just one small thing. Post more pix!!


OK
Since you insist




randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #7, 11-10-2006 06:19 PM
      Another one....



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #8, 11-10-2006 07:16 PM
      Nice. Keep the pix coming.

carolinajoe (groovieguy@gmail.com) MSG #9, 11-10-2006 07:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Just thought I'd ask....How am I doing so far?
Randy



SLOW, SLOW, SLOW, SLOW
I thought you would've been here last weekend with it

In Fact I think when I left your house 2 weeks ago that same blue tape was holding the rear
taillight panel.

I got to tell you people the pictures do not do this car justice. Randy is very articulate about what
he does and it shows in the detail he has done on this car.

I put one of the scoops on my car and it is going to look great, thanks again.

Hey, I thought you were going to Germany this weekend? If not, you and the wife should go to
Zephryhills tomorrow, we are leaving here around 8 or 9 should be great, even though I am
going Fieroless



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #10, 11-10-2006 07:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by carolinajoe:


SLOW, SLOW, SLOW, SLOW
I thought you would've been here last weekend with it

In Fact I think when I left your house 2 weeks ago that same blue tape was holding the rear
taillight panel.

I got to tell you people the pictures do not do this car justice. Randy is very articulate about what
he does and it shows in the detail he has done on this car.

I put one of the scoops on my car and it is going to look great, thanks again.

Hey, I thought you were going to Germany this weekend? If not, you and the wife should go to
Zephryhills tomorrow, we are leaving here around 8 or 9 should be great, even though I am
going Fieroless


SLOW is right!
I was hoping to drive it to Zephyrhills this weekend.
You didn't notice that I FINALLY got the door panels back from paint?
Just got the nose and headlight doors back this week too.
Only thing left to paint is the fuel door and mirrors, then cut & buff everything.
I swear I'll be in a retirement home before this thing is done.
Leaving for Germany on Monday and will probably be meeting up with Yellowstone and Fiero1Fan next Saturday. Should be fun



R Runner (rrunner@windstream.net) MSG #11, 11-10-2006 07:41 PM
      IT's looking real good!

Definately more pictures........ BTW.... Good choice on the Millennium Yellow.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #12, 11-10-2006 10:46 PM
      Another side view.
The new door glass shines almost as good as the new paint


Randy



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #13, 11-10-2006 10:50 PM
      Low angle view of the new taillights, (just taped in place to see how they look)
New exhaust, without the new tips, peeking out from underneath.



88White3.4GT MSG #14, 11-11-2006 12:53 PM
     

[/QUOTE]

i see two more pontiacs ... I like the light panel, the entire car looks very nice, keep up the good work!


WingNut - MD (fiero25@sbcglobal.net) MSG #15, 11-11-2006 01:57 PM
      That looks very nice. MORE PICS!

I am looking forward to seeing the finished product.


THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #16, 11-11-2006 02:45 PM
      Is very good looking! BTW that is the paint and wheels I had planned for my car (even the tail light black panel).. No questions you are doing very well.

Any more pics?
JG


IraSummers (summersi@bellsouth.net) MSG #17, 11-11-2006 03:43 PM
      NICE CAR MAN!!!! I love the wheels. what size are they? Also, where did you get new glass for the sides and back? Thanks! Keep up the good work!!!



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #18, 11-12-2006 12:33 AM
      Since this is a work in progress, I thought maybe I'd show what I started with.
87 GT hardtop with 80k miles on it. Loaded with all power options.
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The car had been sitting stored for 4-5 years and was a mess. It had apparently been involved in fender bender sometime in it's history and had a coupe GT nose on it that had been butchered to fit smooth moldings. Note the nice "new" refurbished proper GT nose from Fiero Warehouse sitting in the background. (Thanks Doug!) Thankfully the chassis was fairly straight even though it showed evidence of having been straightened around the left front corner.

The side glass was horribly scratched by dew wipes that were literally petrified hard as rocks, so new door glass for both sides was ordered from SafeLite, ($102 ea.) Since I had decided to basically completely refurbish the car I started stripping off all the body panels and planned for a panel-off paint job. With the panels off it was an easy job to clean up what little surface rust there was on the chassis and paint with Rustoleum semi gloss black. New window motors, dew wipes, (inner and outer), and power door lock solenoids were installed along with the new side glass.

Then the interior was gutted to prepare for all the new stuff.
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The steering column was in bad shape, (amazingly the steering wheel is great shpe though), so I tore the column down using all the info posted here on PFF, (Many Thanks to Jazzman) Tightened up the tilt mechanism, replaced the wiper internal column switch, ignition switch, dimmer switch and turn signal cancel switch. Also replaced the lock cylinder, hazzard flasher knob and turn signal lever while I was at it. The console support skeleton was barely hanging together, cracked in about 100 places, so it was removed and glued back together. Headliner was shot and the fabric literally fell apart like tissue paper, so the liner board was sent out for recovering.



Carolinajoe furnished me with an amazing 100% like new, factory original all black dash, so that went in with the new Sony Expold speakers, Pontiac Monsoon CD Stereo deck, new carpet and Mr. Mikes seats. Speaker covers were re-covered with new all black cloth, (Funny but they look almost purple in photos) Installation had to wait until SafeLite returned to install the new windshield.
Here's the SafeLite guy getting a Fiero windshield out in one piece in under 5 minutes:
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more "in-progress" pics later

Randy



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #19, 11-12-2006 12:50 AM
      i see two more pontiacs ... I like the light panel, the entire car looks very nice, keep up the good work![/QUOTE]

Yeah. We sort of have a "thing" for Ponchos around here. The GPGT is the wife's ride and the white Firebird is my trusty old daily driver.
Trying to convince myself that the Fiero will be fun enough to make the voices in my head stop telling me to go buy a new Solstice

Thanks for the compliments

Randy




87_FieroGT (davidandnidia@protonmail.com) MSG #20, 11-12-2006 01:19 AM
      Looks great! I love yellow Fieros. I can't wait to see the progress on your car so please keep the pictures coming.

BTW, it's comforting to know that others here the voices telling them to buy new Pontiacs too. Now if I could just get my wife to hear those voices.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #21, 11-25-2006 10:04 AM
     
The car finally rolled out of the garage yesterday, but both front and rear deck lids are back at paint to fix some mismatch problems.
Still waiting on my mirror housings to come back from paint as well so I can finally button up the inner door panels. It's getting real close to being done now.....er...these things are *never* really "done" are they?
Need those dang Intrax springs to show up soon. The car is sitting up in the air like the Toonerville Trolley and I can't wait to drop it down.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #22, 11-25-2006 10:08 AM
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Another view
Fuel door needs to be installed and some misc. trim and adjustments yet to be done.
Crazy angle of the rear wheels due to no alignment yet as that will be done after the darn springs show up and are installed.
Keep watching for the FedEx truck to arrive.....


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #23, 11-25-2006 10:15 AM
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Yet *another* view,
It's looking good (to me), so far, and we haven't even cut and buffed the paint yet....
Waiting to get everything hung back on the car so it's easier than fighting with individual flexible panels.
Anyone want to rent out some space in the wheel wells??...I have plenty to spare right now


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #24, 11-25-2006 10:50 PM
     

Randye,

My friend that is some spectacular work !!

That car is going to be almost new ! I know you are getting the lowering spirngs (good move), but did you have to do anything to the rest of the suspension and or brakes ?


Newbfiero (bobby_0958@hotmail.com) MSG #25, 11-25-2006 10:59 PM
      Nice job you did I love it

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #26, 11-26-2006 01:35 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Randye,

My friend that is some spectacular work !!

That car is going to be almost new ! I know you are getting the lowering spirngs (good move), but did you have to do anything to the rest of the suspension and or brakes ?


Nothing special done to fit the wheels and tires, except that I had to shave off approx. 1/4 - 3/8 inch off the rear axle ends with a die grinder so that the wheel center caps would go on!
I'll be replacing tie rod ends, ball joints and bushings when I do the springs, (still watching for the FedEx truck).
The brakes are still stock, except that I've replaced all 4 calipers and 2 rotors. Two of them were near frozen when I picked up the car.
Big brakes are definately in the future for the car, but I haven't yet figured out what I want to do. It's definately going to need better brakes though, as I plan on sending the car up to Ed Parks to have a 4.9 Caddy swap done.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #27, 01-07-2007 12:09 AM
     
I understand Randye has made some more progress !

Randye care to share some pics ??


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #28, 01-07-2007 12:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


I understand Randye has made some more progress !

Randye care to share some pics ??


Yes, I've made more progress but it's been real tuff going. My wife and I both came down with the flu over the holidays so that pretty much shut down an entire week off I had planned on getting a lot done. Working on your car while sick with the flu is NOT fun.

I'll try to get some more progress pics posted very soon.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #29, 01-07-2007 06:17 PM
      Ok, time for a little update.
Even being down with the flu, I did manage to get my new Intrax lowering springs installed over the holidays.

The drop looks great and really makes the tires fill up those wheel wells nicely now.

Randy


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #30, 01-07-2007 06:20 PM
      The rear tires and wheel look MUCH better now, but I still need to get that rear fascia buttoned down after getting the taillight panel trimmed a little bit more and installed.

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 04-21-2019).]

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #31, 01-07-2007 06:23 PM
      Hood is back from the painter...again...and it finally looks like it matches the rest of the paint.
Left front fender still isn't quite the right color, but we will shoot ity again on the car since there are nice edges to paint to and no blending necessary.
The car looks like it's smiling at me every time I go out in the garage.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #32, 01-07-2007 06:38 PM
      With some down-time over the holiday, I managed to find this little item.
It looks and fits almost like it was specifically made for a Fiero

I think I may fabricate a small bracket to fit up under the rear of the roof "lip", or it also looks like this light could simply be installed with 3M double sided tape. I think that the wire can be fed into the stock light housing inside thru a small hole poked in the "goo" around the rear window up at the top and behind the LED light where it won't be seen.


I'm trying to find a source for more of these lights and might offer them for sale if there's any interest.
The one I have is weatherproof and testing it on 12VDC it lights up BRITE!!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #33, 01-07-2007 06:49 PM
      Finally getting around to some more of the interior trim.
I thought that I would try to replicate the style of the Mr. Mikes seats on the center armrst console, so I shot the main body of the console with SEM Products satin black vinyl paint and shot the door with presidio grey.


Installed, but I think the satin black is the wrong color. I'll probably take it back out and use some "charcoal grey" or other color that matches the seat leather and stock console vinyl better. The SEM strips off with acetone, (don't ask me how I know that), but it takes some work and a LOT of rags. Oh-well..one step forward, two steps back, but I want it right.


The shifter console was reglued, (what a nasty job, but well worth it), and the shifter trim plate was painted with SEM satin black...here I think it looks ok and I'll probably leave it this color. New windorw switches, power mirror switch and switch plate were installed and I thought I'd see what this nifty little chrome shift handle would look like. I figure you want to use chrome on the interior lkike jewelry..don't over-do it, just a little here and there, tastefully.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #34, 01-07-2007 06:57 PM
      Mirrors are painted and reassembled. I didn't know that the only way to properly reinstall the power mirror motors was to have the glass part of the mirror OUT of it's holder. Some very careful work with a small flat screwdriver and a thin piece of aluminum strip and I miraculously managed to get both mirror glass out with no damage! Once the motors were reinstalled in the mirror housings, the glass was reattached with some marine silicone sealant and adhesive.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #35, 01-07-2007 07:08 PM
      Ran into another problem with the drivers side door. I replaced the bushings and upper hinge pin but didn't notice how worn out the body side hinge hole was. It's wobbled out bad enough to need to be re-drilled and have a bushing put in, so the drivers side door skin will have to be taken back off...good thing too because I noted from this photo that I need to readjust the hinges to move the door inward to line up with the fender!
Another step forward and two or three more steps backward....


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #36, 01-07-2007 07:24 PM
      The fuel door is all painted and reinstalled, but I am waiting on some nice tinted MsLori quarter windows to install to fill up those gaping holes on the quarter sails.


All the body panels still ned to be wet sanded and buffed, but the shine is already great. This thing should be SLICK once the paint finishing work is done. The new Fiero Store side mioldings and marker lights look good. The outside door handles I bought on Ebay and they match nicely with the new moldings and markers. Wiper arms were sanded, cleaned and painted with Duplicolor black trim paint. The plastic cowling was scrubbed with #0000 steel wool and soaked down with medical grade flourinated silicone oil. It now looks almost like new.


texasfiero (grubbyjeans@yahoo.com) MSG #37, 01-07-2007 07:51 PM
      Great work Randye. You have a PM

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #38, 01-11-2007 12:26 AM
     

Randye,

Any chance you can roll it out and take a full, level side shot ??

Thanks

Tony


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #39, 01-11-2007 01:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Randye,

Any chance you can roll it out and take a full, level side shot ??

Thanks

Tony


Sure, there's a chance...
I've been so busy I actually forgot to pull it out of the garage to get the "full view from afar"

Once all this stuff is done I'll have to go find some nice store windows where I can do the the "U-VIEW-U" thing....

10 "old timer points" for anyone who remembers that old MAD Magazine cartoon and can describe it

Randy


David DeVoe (marcia.david.devoe@sbcglobal.net) MSG #40, 01-12-2007 01:14 PM
      Gorgeous car, absolutely beautiful but you rotten guys who live where there are palm trees, you aint real car guys like up in Michigan where we get to lay on our backs on freezing concrete or out in the mud shaking with chills and fever just to do the simplest thing which takes hours in the freezing cold. Thats dedication, not to mention that every single part of the car is rust welded to every other part and needs to be blasted apart. I could whine with jealousy like this for hours but I think I can hear you laughing so I'll shut the hell up.
Love those seats man they just look RIGHT in there. Gotta love it when a Fiero gets done right.


CompYellowFiero (kematthews20@comcast.net) MSG #41, 01-12-2007 02:36 PM
      Love it! Of coarse I am partial to Yellow ones LOL
I own Page 2!


David DeVoe (marcia.david.devoe@sbcglobal.net) MSG #42, 01-12-2007 06:51 PM
      What glass did you specify when you ordered your side glass? I ask because when I went to the safelight site there were a lot of tints to choose from. What would the original tint be called?

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #43, 01-13-2007 06:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by David DeVoe:

What glass did you specify when you ordered your side glass? I ask because when I went to the safelight site there were a lot of tints to choose from. What would the original tint be called?


I honestly didn't know there were various tints available. I just told them I wanted PPG glass and I think they asked me if I wanted untinted or tinted, so I said tinted if there's no price difference.
If you can get a darker tint, I'd go for it. It's far superior to window tint film later on and you really don't have to worry about adjacent glass matching it.

Randy.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #44, 01-13-2007 06:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by David DeVoe:

Gorgeous car, absolutely beautiful but you rotten guys who live where there are palm trees, you aint real car guys like up in Michigan where we get to lay on our backs on freezing concrete or out in the mud shaking with chills and fever just to do the simplest thing which takes hours in the freezing cold. Thats dedication, not to mention that every single part of the car is rust welded to every other part and needs to be blasted apart. I could whine with jealousy like this for hours but I think I can hear you laughing so I'll shut the hell up.
Love those seats man they just look RIGHT in there. Gotta love it when a Fiero gets done right.


Thanks David, I honestly appreciate the compliments.
Tell you what, you come on down here in late July when it's 110 degrees in the garage and 95% humidity...... 2-3 hours of work has you soaked dripping with sweat right thru your underwear.
I've had to change clothes a couple times a day in the summer just to stand being around myself
You might have seen the big industrial fan I have in some of my photos...it helps a lot, but it also blows all the mosquitos and love bugs in the garage.... but then it's nice to have company when you're working late
I guess there's no such thing as a free lunch... we have nice weather in the winter but we sure pay for it during the summer and especially during hurricane season sometimes.

Randy


David DeVoe (marcia.david.devoe@sbcglobal.net) MSG #45, 01-15-2007 04:15 PM
      Hey Randy, after I wrote that about palm trees I got to thinking about being in the Miami area for a few days one summer and what it was like and I guess I have to hand it to you for sticking it out. You're right no place is perfect although Hawaii comes awful close. About the window glass I'm trying to find out what the original level of tint was so I know what to order. I'm keeping mine stock.

dobey MSG #46, 01-15-2007 04:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by David DeVoe:

Hey Randy, after I wrote that about palm trees I got to thinking about being in the Miami area for a few days one summer and what it was like and I guess I have to hand it to you for sticking it out. You're right no place is perfect although Hawaii comes awful close. About the window glass I'm trying to find out what the original level of tint was so I know what to order. I'm keeping mine stock.


Virginia Beach is pretty nice.

It gets hot and humid in the summer too, but probably not as bad as So. Florida.


Oreif (kopielski1714@wowway.com) MSG #47, 02-01-2007 09:45 AM
      The car is looking great.
Replied to your Email.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #48, 02-08-2007 06:07 PM
     

Contractors here installing new ductwork in the old homestead, so car is out of the garage and a good time for a small update on my meager progress.

Looks good with the new Yel-"LOW" look since the springs are in. It may settle down a bit more once it's driven awhile.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #49, 02-08-2007 06:12 PM
     

New Fiero Store reproduction taillight lenses, (the "good ones") are installed along with new FS repro exhaust tips.
They'll never be this shiny again I suppose....
Trying out some red 194 bulbs for the rear markers but I'm afraid they will be too dim. We shall see.

I'm waiting patiently for those MsLori quarter windows, but D7 is getting very close......


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #50, 02-08-2007 06:15 PM
     

Interior is FINALLY almost complete!!
New Orief door tabs in yellow carry over the yellow Fiero logo embroidery on the Mr. Mikes seats very nicely.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #51, 02-08-2007 06:19 PM
     

Finally looking like a real interior now.
The crazy thing is it even smells like a new car inside now.
Still not happy with the satin black center console color and will need to refinish it with SEM "Graphite"
You can easily see the color difference between the head rests and the console here.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #52, 02-08-2007 06:31 PM
     

Not much space left to rent out in the wheel wells now.
New drivers door hinge pins and bushings are installed but still need to adjust the rear of the door up a little. (Note the door molding and quarter panel molding are offset by approx. 1/4 inch)
(Yes), I drilled and installed bushings in the cowl hinges too....holes "wobbled" out badly, so hopefully everything will line up nicely once the door is adjusted properly. Should even out those door panel gaps as well.


AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #53, 02-08-2007 08:07 PM
      I love that color, do you have a paint code?

GKDINC MSG #54, 02-08-2007 08:21 PM
      Those wheels Look Great.
See you in Daytona
Gary


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #55, 02-08-2007 08:57 PM
     

Randye

The car lowered looks fantastic ! This car has so many new parts it is practically new !!

Totally blown away. Fantastic work.

Tony


never2old (gun4gtbl@aol.com) MSG #56, 02-08-2007 09:46 PM
      Did you change your mind on the first set of taillights pictured?
Nice job.Looks great.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #57, 02-08-2007 11:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AutoTech:

I love that color, do you have a paint code?


Sorry I don't have the exact code at hand, but the color is Corvette "Millennium Yellow"

I'll look for the code on one of the paint cans when it goes back for final buffing next week.

Randy


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #58, 02-08-2007 11:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by never2old:

Did you change your mind on the first set of taillights pictured?
Nice job.Looks great.


Yes, I did change my mind. I decided to try another custom mod later on where 2 round lights are installed behind the clear stock lens covers where the yellow and red lenses presently are. It looks like a much cleaner and professional installation to me....if I can do it For now I'm going to run with the stock taillights and tinker some more with this on some old parts.

Randy


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #59, 02-08-2007 11:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GKDINC:

Those wheels Look Great.
See you in Daytona
Gary


Thanks Gary!
I'm determined to have it ready for D7. Time is *not* my friend right now


Fiero_Adam MSG #60, 02-09-2007 12:06 AM
      Very nice! You have a great eye for detail. The interior looks great with that color combo. Is that ACC carpet that you used? What shade of grey is that?



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #61, 02-09-2007 12:16 AM
     

One more progress pic for now. (Just an enlargement of a previous photo)
All new switches and switch plates in the dash and console. Note the 84' style black Delco headlight switch, (still available new from Advance Auto Parts here in FL)
New turn signal / cruise stalk
You can't see it here but the hazzard switch knob is new, along with the ignition lock cylinder, (and keys)
New Fiero Store ash tray doors
Aluminum pedals, which may need to be removed as it is difficult to fit my fat right foot onto the "go" pedal...oh well, it seemed like a good idea at the time....
I.P. cluster panel, aux gage panel, radio panel and shifter console panel are painted in SEM satin black.
I was a bit worried about having a few different shades of gray along with the charcoal black, but the whole thing seems to work together ok now that it's all in.
The gage needles are badly faded and I was going to repaint them fluroescent red, but I found some nice fluroescent yellow that I may use to carry over some more touches of the yellow accent theme in the interior like the seat stitching and door tabs. The trick is to not over-do it with accents, and keep it tasteful and clean.

The matching floor mats blend with the carpet so well it looks like they're not there !


PerKr (per_kristoffersson1@hotmail.com) MSG #62, 02-09-2007 05:54 AM
      Great looking car!

are my eyes playing tricks on me or is that an auto? where did you get that shift knob?


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #63, 02-09-2007 03:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero_Adam:

Very nice! You have a great eye for detail. The interior looks great with that color combo. Is that ACC carpet that you used? What shade of grey is that?



The carpet is from Automotive Interiors and Accessories, as recommended by Mr. Mikes

www.automotiveinteriors.com

The color is # 877 "Dove Gray" which was recommended as closest to the stock Fiero dark gray.

Tell em Mr. Mike sent you and they have free shipping.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #64, 02-09-2007 03:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PerKr:

Great looking car!

are my eyes playing tricks on me or is that an auto? where did you get that shift knob?


Yes, it's an automatic. The shift handle is one of a few billet aluminum universal ones made for automatics. They're usually easily available over here in the states at most auto parts stores.
I seem to recall this one was approx. $15 USD


Oreif (kopielski1714@wowway.com) MSG #65, 02-09-2007 07:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:





Looks GREAT!!!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #66, 02-09-2007 07:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Oreif:


Looks GREAT!!!


Must be those door tabs that make it really stand out huh?

I really like them. Thanks!

Randy



David DeVoe (marcia.david.devoe@sbcglobal.net) MSG #67, 02-09-2007 08:04 PM
      I'm telling you Randy, I just can't get enough of looking at your car. It's been done with taste and class and shows it in every detail. Looking at your car makes me wonder what GM was using for brains when they cancelled the program and also makes me wonder when the Fiero will get the respect it deserves. One day I hope one of mine looks as good.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #68, 02-09-2007 08:36 PM
     

Hopefully randy you can make it over to a meeting before d-7 ??


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #69, 02-09-2007 09:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by David DeVoe:

I'm telling you Randy, I just can't get enough of looking at your car. It's been done with taste and class and shows it in every detail. Looking at your car makes me wonder what GM was using for brains when they cancelled the program and also makes me wonder when the Fiero will get the respect it deserves. One day I hope one of mine looks as good.


David,

Thanks again for the compliments. I'm really honored that some folks like what I've done with the car. It's very encouraging to me.

There are a lot of talented people on this forum that have built some astonishing cars. I don't think that I've done anything extraordinary with this car and certainly nothing that hasn't already been done by others. After all, I've learned almost everything I know about Fieros right here. As I said at the beginning of this thread, this is my first Fiero, so it's not perfect by a long shot.

Randy



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #70, 02-23-2007 01:06 PM
     

Bump for anybody who has not seen this gorgeous ride.

I agree this is a fiero rebuild done right.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #71, 02-23-2007 09:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Bump for anybody who has not seen this gorgeous ride.

I agree this is a fiero rebuild done right.



Gee Thanks Tony !!

The car has come a long way since the last update.
I'll try to have some more photos to post soon.

Randy



Mike OHIO MSG #72, 02-23-2007 09:33 PM
      really nice looking! maybe re-cover your front speaker grilles? they look faded. i think rodney has the fabric to do it.

Mike OHIO MSG #73, 02-23-2007 09:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mike OHIO:

really nice looking! maybe re-cover your front speaker grilles? they look faded. i think rodney has the fabric to do it.



edit: just read you already did this- and you cmommented on how they look purple in the pics. sorry! again, very clean car!


FormulaGT (todddb13@yahoo.com) MSG #74, 02-24-2007 11:44 AM
      Very nice car. Your long hours and hard work are clearly evident. Please update with more pics.

crytical point (thomasgilmartin@hotmail.com) MSG #75, 02-24-2007 01:26 PM
      Working on a car in FL durring the summer is harsh, about 2 years ago I was getting my friends car ready for the db Drag and it was 100+ with really high humidity and I got locked in the trunk for about 30 min. After beating on the car for a while my friend finnaly showed and let me out. It was a 94 thunderbird and I was wiring the motorized trunk and I HAD the battery disconnected but there was a reserve charge left in a capacitor and it turned the motor on and locked me in. I would guess it was about 130 in there but im use to working on cars in the hot weather but that was the worse.

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #76, 02-24-2007 04:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by crytical point:

Working on a car in FL durring the summer is harsh, about 2 years ago I was getting my friends car ready for the db Drag and it was 100+ with really high humidity and I got locked in the trunk for about 30 min. After beating on the car for a while my friend finnaly showed and let me out. It was a 94 thunderbird and I was wiring the motorized trunk and I HAD the battery disconnected but there was a reserve charge left in a capacitor and it turned the motor on and locked me in. I would guess it was about 130 in there but im use to working on cars in the hot weather but that was the worse.


You're lucky to be alive to type that posting...

I've come right to the razors edge of heat stroke numerous times working in the garage this past summer. I can't imagine being locked in a trunk!!


yellowstone MSG #77, 02-24-2007 05:03 PM
      VERY NICE! I really like what you are doing! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person in Daytona.

Too bad our cars will never meet :-)

What about a pic of my boxes?



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #78, 02-24-2007 08:51 PM
      UPDATE TIME

Today was a big day for the project.
The car is finally pretty much roadworthy, so I took it out to have the 4 wheel alignment done this morning.
The technician at the shop I went to has owned several Fieros and knows them very well so that was a stroke of good luck, plus I got an excellent alignment.
Once the alignment was done I couldn't resist taking it out for a "shake down" drive so I drove up to Springhill to see my friend and fellow PFF member CarolinaJoe.


Joe was busy working on his next "secret project" Fiero and swore me to secrecy, so this is all I was allowed to photograph

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 02-24-2007).]

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #79, 02-24-2007 09:00 PM
      Since I didn't have a security clearance from Joe, I wasn't allowed to shoot any more photos so it was back outside to shoot some pics of my car on a nice warm Florida Saturday.


The car has dropped to a very nice stance now since the alignment.






A better view of the interior out in the sunlight finally.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #80, 02-24-2007 09:10 PM
      I'm really happy with the decison to go "wingless" on the car now. I think the lines of the car are much cleaner now, but that's just my personal preference.



Another interior shot. I put the old shift knob back in for this drive today. Need to work on the fit of the new custom billet aluminum shift handle a bit more.


Joe shot a photo of "The man behind the Fiero" I was told my shirt is the wrong shade of yellow to match the car. It's the only yellow shirt I have!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #81, 02-24-2007 09:21 PM
      Underside of the hood is all nice and clean with new semigloss black paint.
This images is larger than 102400 bytes. Click to view.

A little more cleaning on the cowl panel and some more protectant needed, but it looks 1000 times better than the chalky grey mess I started with.
Looks like I need to adjust the passenger side wiper arm up a couple of notches too.



All the doors and hatches open...letting in some fresh air



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #82, 02-24-2007 09:30 PM
      The trunk carpeting is very clean but looks a little "splotchy" here. Must be the light, because it looks pristine in person.
New trunk rubber seal looks nice though.
Ugly dogbone needs replacing right away.


Joe is underneath the car looking for leaks ....OK yeah, he found some small ones


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #83, 02-24-2007 09:39 PM
      Another "all open" view.


...and another.....


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #84, 02-24-2007 09:50 PM
      The engine is still not idling and running just like I want, so more tweaking needed.
Since the car is getting very close to complete at this stage, I'm starting to have visions of other motors in this space now.
A nice SBC? A 4.9? Maybe just a 3.4 with a 440T4 auto trans? I can't decide yet...
I plan on running the 2.8 with the stock 3 spd auto for a little while, but I already feel the need for for just a little more "pizzaz" to go with the looks of the outside of the car. Good Grief that dogbone looks awful!!

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #85, 02-24-2007 10:23 PM
      One more low angle rear shot for this update.
I think I need a nifty new license plate frame


Hope to have the new low profile headlights and the quarter windows installed in the next couple of weeks.
Fiero project cars are never really *done* are they?

Randy


Mike OHIO MSG #86, 02-24-2007 10:53 PM
      oh wow. I love a wingless fastback!

maybe paint your deck lid lock black to blend it in with the tail lights?


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #87, 02-24-2007 11:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mike OHIO:

maybe paint your deck lid lock black to blend it in with the tail lights?


Actually the door and decklid locks are new and came with black metal sleeves and the tiny little spring door in black.
You have a choice to remove the silver casings and replace with black, or not.
Interesting point now that you mention it. I'll see how the black lock might look. Thanks



Dr.Porsche (rsr914k@yahoo.com) MSG #88, 02-25-2007 01:54 AM
      Fantastic! Love your car. VERY tasteful! What did you use on the cowl?

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #89, 02-25-2007 12:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dr.Porsche:

What did you use on the cowl?


I removed the plastic cowl panel piece from the car and washed it throughly with "Purple Power" brand cleaner and a small nylon bristle brush.
The part was then buffed lightly with #0000 steel wool to remove the faded gray oxidized film layer of plastic and then washed again. I then coated it with medical grade flourinated silicone oil. We use this silicone oil in the manufacture of medical devices and it's very expensive, (approx. $1k / quart), but it is also the only substance that I have found that will actually penetrate into some polymers and help restore them to a nice luster. We keep a supply of this silicone oil in my lab, so I "borrowed" about 1 ounce of it to test. I wiped the silicone oil all over the cowl panel and let it sit for a couple of days and then wiped off the excess.

This is the first time I've ever tried this on an automotive plastic (vinyl), part, and the jury is still out on how effective this will be over the long term and exposed to the elements.
So far it seems to have worked well, but the car has barely been out of my garage for long. I'm going to try coating it with one of the regular automotive protectants, (non water based), now as a precaution.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #90, 02-25-2007 12:44 PM
     

You know i started pricing a few interior items as i am in the process of a restoration on one of my GTs and noticed some of the prices were not too bad.

I wonder if the Fiero Store has ever considered putting together an interior restoration package, that included new carpet, new mats, all new switches, and face plates etc, at a discounted price ?

Sure would spur a lot of business IMO, as some folks who were considering a few things might opt for the whole package for the opportunity to totally refresh their interior to like new status.

Hmmmmm,.......

I think i will propose this to them.


FieroFinatic (twilso21@dtcc.edu) MSG #91, 02-25-2007 01:37 PM
      what size wheels you running on those 18s?

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #92, 02-25-2007 01:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroFinatic:

what size wheels you running on those 18s?


HP EVO 18 X 8 38mm offset

Nexen 225/40/18 tires

Intrax lowering springs. 1.7" drop front and 1.8" drop rear

CarolinaJoe rode in it yesterday and said it feels like a stock suspension ride...
It's VERY smooth and doesn't hit the bump stops.

There is minimal clearance between the tire and the strut spring perch, (approx. a fingers width), in the rear and a on a VERY hard 90 degree corner the tire will rub the spring perch slightly. I have no rear sway bar yet so I think that will help eliminate that by reducing body roll, and I will probably also cut away a bit of the excess spring perch, (they are huge on the Gabriel struts), to get a tiny bit more clearance as well.



Dr.Porsche (rsr914k@yahoo.com) MSG #93, 02-25-2007 02:53 PM
      I was kind of following the whole intrax thing before, but just to clarify...did you get them off of e-bay. Also, just stock suspension with those lowering springs...what kind of shocks? Thanks

FieroFinatic (twilso21@dtcc.edu) MSG #94, 02-25-2007 02:57 PM
      oh nice...how do you think 215/40/18 would look on a stock fiero wheel well w/ the car lowered slightly?

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #95, 02-25-2007 04:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dr.Porsche:

I was kind of following the whole intrax thing before, but just to clarify...did you get them off of e-bay. Also, just stock suspension with those lowering springs...what kind of shocks? Thanks


Hi Doc,

I eventually did get my Intrax from Ebay, but a STRONG word of caution:
DO NOT order from "Qualified Japanese Parts" or whatever name they might be going by. They don't have Intrax in stock and will wait a few weeks and then email you and offer Eibach.
It's a continuing bait & switch that I've complained to Ebay about. Took a month or more to get my money back. I eventually got mine new in the box on Ebay from an individual here in FL, (just pure luck).
Some of the guys have mentioned the ST springs, or "Suspension Technologies", (I think that's the right name), which Summit or others stock. I've heard they are similar but don't know. there's a thread on the forum "Intrax in Stock" you might want to read....don't have the link handy at the moment....

I chose Intrax because they offered the most drop with a progressive rate spring. Eibachs are linear rate and not as much drop.
I wanted a comfortable street ride with the benefit of firmer handling when I wanted to "lean on it" a bit. So far the Inrax have delivered as advertised.
Since you are a performance driving instructor you'll doubtless know the difference in progressive vs linear rate springs. They both have their place.

I mis-typed earlier. I have Monroe performance struts and shocks installed, (not Gabriel). I don't recall the exact trade name right now but they are non-adjustable gas shocks and struts..supposedly top of the line in what Monroe offers for stock replacement. I'll look up exactly what they are for you. I do know they're a lot firmer than stock, but not at all harsh. There is no "jounce", or "porpoising", just a very stable damping with the Intrax springs. As an engineer, I'm a big believer in "incremental development". Makes diagnosing and correcting problems much easier than modifying a lot of things all at once and then trying to figure out al the interactions between what you've done to correct it. For that reason I'm going a step at a time with shocks, springs, bushings, brakes, sway bars. etc. until I get it to what I like. I didn't set out to make this a "race car", I just want the best compromise between comfortable cruising and occasional mild "performance" handling.

Just curious about the "Dr." in your sig. ???? Physician?, DDS?, PhD?

Randy



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #96, 02-25-2007 05:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroFinatic:

oh nice...how do you think 215/40/18 would look on a stock fiero wheel well w/ the car lowered slightly?


Should be fine.
A 40 series 18" tire will give you almost the same rolling diameter as a stock 15" Fiero wheel and tire, so measure your drop from the stock wheel and tire and proceed accordingly.
The 215 width should give you a bit more clearance on the inside with a 38mm offset.
I can't stress enough to watch the offset though.
Too much and they'll hit on the inside.
Too little and they'll stick out of your wheel wells not look too good.
On my 87 GT a 38mm offset was almost perfect with the 225 width on an 8" wide wheel.

Randy



Dr.Porsche (rsr914k@yahoo.com) MSG #97, 02-25-2007 06:05 PM
      Thank you Sir. I knew there was something going on there. I will be dropping my car this spring, and I have liked your approach, so I am trying to stick as close to your set-up as possible. I bought a set of 17"s from a member here.

As far as the sig, DC and have gone on to specialize in radiology. I teach undergraduate Physics on the side. In my former lives I was a immunologist/biotech researcher and did some time at GM (Delco) as an engineering analyst. I have a long history with Porsche, so that is what I always used as a sig. When I got my professional degree, I thought it would be funny to play on the original Dr. Porsche's name. It also helps to ease the pain of student loan debt



MsLoriFiero (fierosolutions@aol.com) MSG #98, 02-25-2007 08:39 PM
      That is a very nice car Randy, you have done an excellent job. I am trying my best to get those windows for you, and others before D7. I am having to depend on the molding shop to keep their word to me. (hopefully)

Lori


MsLoriFiero (fierosolutions@aol.com) MSG #99, 02-25-2007 08:41 PM
      double post

Lori

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #100, 02-25-2007 08:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MsLoriFiero:

That is a very nice car Randy, you have done an excellent job. I am trying my best to get those windows for you, and others before D7. I am having to depend on the molding shop to keep their word to me. (hopefully)

Lori


Lori you know full well that I have complete faith in you. I know that you are doing your very best.
Just to demonstrate my confidence in you, the car will remain without quarter windows until yours are ready and I have a set in my hands
I haven't made many compromises on this car so far, and I don't see why I should settle for something less now.

Randy


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #101, 06-27-2007 12:03 AM
     

Randy any update on the new engine ?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #102, 08-23-2007 12:51 AM
     

bump


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #103, 08-23-2007 05:29 AM
      Looks awesome. How Much??? I'll pay cash


-Alex


carolinajoe (groovieguy@gmail.com) MSG #104, 08-23-2007 05:58 AM
      He called me on Tuesday I think?
He was at his first Cruise night with the car.
Hopefully he will see this and post some pics.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #105, 08-23-2007 07:54 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Looks awesome. How Much??? I'll pay cash


-Alex


High praise coming from a guy whose car I drool over.
Thanks Alex!
You know I almost painted this car Arancio Atlas Pearl, (Lambo orange), but didn't want it to look like a cheap stock copy of your awesome car.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #106, 08-23-2007 08:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by carolinajoe:

He called me on Tuesday I think?
He was at his first Cruise night with the car.
Hopefully he will see this and post some pics.


Yep. That was me.
Went out to a little local cruise night on Tuesday evening for a couple of hours. Got some really nice comments on the car.
Almost all said "That's the cleanest Fiero I've ever seen, is it new?"
Really builds up your confidence that you might have done a decent job on your car....
Been keeping the car close to home until I'm certain that everything is right and the new 3.4 PR engine is broken in properly.
It still needs to go back to the paint shop to finish up a few things, including a couple of nicks and scratches from the engine swap.
I'll try to shoot some "glamor pics" of the car this weekend.


advancedwiringsystem (advancedwiringsystems@gmail.com) MSG #107, 08-23-2007 01:19 PM
      you need to free up some time either sep. 1 or sep. 2, i'm bringing the new wife with me to pick up the car from russell. I want to see your car....

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #108, 08-23-2007 05:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by advancedwiringsystem:

you need to free up some time either sep. 1 or sep. 2, i'm bringing the new wife with me to pick up the car from russell. I want to see your car....


PM me with your itinerary and I will try like hell to make time.
Sept.1 is our 30th Anniversary, and the wife is probably expecting me to pay some attention to her
We will probably just do dinner Saturday evening at her favorite, (expensive), place.
I'm always up for hanging around with "Fiero Folk" though.

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #109, 11-03-2007 05:16 AM
      I was mulling over some old pff files and found this. Absolutely spot on job on this car. The color is amazing and the interior is fantastic. Any new developments on her???

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #110, 11-15-2007 08:11 AM
     

bump !


Digitalman (chris.snyder@wright.edu) MSG #111, 11-15-2007 12:13 PM
      Car looks great, but give up on the Intraxx Springs. Call West Coast Fiero and get their front springs and their rear-coil-overs. I did that and am VERY HAPPY!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #112, 03-29-2008 05:46 PM
     

Randye,

It was great to finally get to meet you in person and see your car. Spectacular job !

It was great talking to you as well, and hearing about your next big project.

That one sounds like it is going to be even better !!


HC MSG #113, 03-29-2008 09:13 PM
      Very tastefully done! I love every inch of it! Yellow fieros kick ass! The wingless look is definitely the way to go with fastbacks!

BobadooFunk (bobadoofunk@gmail.com) MSG #114, 03-29-2008 10:37 PM
      hi Randy E the uncappsness threw me off!!

car looks b-e-a-uutiful.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #115, 03-30-2008 05:02 AM
      Still loving it. any updates? This is exactly what I wanted to do to mine before it became the wide-body. I like the color a lot.

blkcofy MSG #116, 04-01-2008 11:00 PM
      Bump to keep the old school look alive...

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #117, 04-02-2008 08:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Randye,

It was great to finally get to meet you in person and see your car. Spectacular job !

It was great talking to you as well, and hearing about your next big project.

That one sounds like it is going to be even better !!


Tony,
Same here. It was great to meet up with you *finally*. I'm really looking forward to seeing that choptop of yours.
I know how it feels to be "Fieroless in Daytona", but it looks like you will soon be there in grand style!

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #118, 04-02-2008 09:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Still loving it. any updates? This is exactly what I wanted to do to mine before it became the wide-body. I like the color a lot.


Thanks Alex!

The old 2.8 motor blew up so it was replaced with a rebuilt 3.4

http://images.fieroforum.com/p...ages3/3.4_engine.jpg

Not exacly the "screamer" that some others are driving, but the car runs very good now and only needs a 4T60 trans to replace the old 3 speed auto. RPMs on the highway are way too high, (3200 @ 70MPH), so I really need the overdrive.

I posted more photos of the car over in the "Daytona 2008" thread.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #119, 04-02-2008 09:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BobadooFunk:

hi Randy E the uncappsness threw me off!!

car looks b-e-a-uutiful.


great to meet you in daytona jerry. thanks for the compliments.
just for you, no caps were used in the making of this post


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #120, 01-12-2009 12:42 AM
      i understand there has been an udpate !?

pontiackid86 (phllyracer@aol.com) MSG #121, 01-12-2009 01:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


OK
Since you insist




i know that one headlight anywhere thats a firebird isant it



PaulJK MSG #122, 01-12-2009 01:47 AM
      randye - where did you get this brake light ?



I notifced you haven't installed it - are you not going to use it ? - pm me if you wanna sell it.


PaulJK MSG #123, 01-12-2009 01:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pontiackid86:

i know that one headlight anywhere thats a firebird isant it



huh (!?)


pontiackid86 (phllyracer@aol.com) MSG #124, 01-12-2009 02:10 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:


huh (!?)
the front of the silver car in his pic it looks like a firebird

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #125, 01-12-2009 11:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:

randye - where did you get this brake light ?



I notifced you haven't installed it - are you not going to use it ? - pm me if you wanna sell it.


Paul,
No I didn't install it.
I was messing around with some ideas for making a custom fiberglass housing for it so it would mount to the stock location inside the rear glass using the original screws, but I've never gotten around to it and I'm thinking of some other ideas now.
Since you are the first to ask, and I could use some good karma, how about I just let you have it for the cost of shipping?
If you want it, PM me with you address and I'll shoot you my PayPal details.
The only other thing I would ask is that you post a thread on installing it.

Randy


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #126, 01-12-2009 11:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pontiackid86:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PaulJK:


huh (!?)
the front of the silver car in his pic it looks like a firebird

[/QUOTE]

Yep.
That's my old Firebird daily driver.
Lot's of Pontiacs around here as you can see


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #127, 01-12-2009 11:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

i understand there has been an udpate !?


Tony,
Somebody is leaking secrets....
Well maybe I'm the leaker...I did post a quick update.
I just can't trust myself to keep quiet
Here is one of the new "tweaks" in process:


There also might be another VERY dramatic change in the car very soon.
I'm looking for opinions on this though, so check your PMs and give me your feedback..


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #128, 02-09-2009 06:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

i understand there has been an udpate !?


Other than the previous update, YES there has been a rather dramatic update this weekend:

My previously shiny yellow GT got an all over "massage"...with a DA sander





and then she started getting some minor "plastic surgery":





In a couple of hours she will be leaving for the "beauty parlor"
I probably won't see her until this next weekend.
Who knows what she will be wearing when she comes home, but I know she should be amazing.

I'm going to miss her while she's gone though

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skitime (skitime@ptd.net) MSG #129, 02-09-2009 07:14 PM
      Nice work! Love how it is turning out.



johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #130, 02-09-2009 07:17 PM
      Okay leak some more!!!!!!! Comon....

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #131, 02-09-2009 08:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skitime:

Nice work! Love how it is turning out.



Thank you sir!
Coming from one of what I consider to be the "Masters" of Fieros, I consider it high praise indeed.

The paint work on my GT was good, but I know it could have been much better, and since the Millennium Yellow color was actually a compromise when I first built the car, I have decided to go to the original color I had in mind for the car and have retained a very good custom painter to help me get it the best we can this time.

http://www.mobileairbrushing.com/index-3.html

I'm not having anything really wild done to the car, just good solid basic paint job, (no graphics), but I've seen Billy Kidd's work and I know he understands what I'm looking for and since we had to basically tear the car apart somewhat to do this, and even though it was hard to do that after all the work I put into it, I am confident that this will all be worth it.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #132, 02-28-2009 09:42 PM
      Had a good productive day today after a 20 day delay.
My painter was sick and just got back on his feet this week.
The big changes in my Fiero are beginning to happen at a faster pace now.

The car has been scuff sanded and smoothed out a lot better, (but it's going to get MUCH smoother before this is all done)


Lots of parts yet to be sanded:


Antenna hole has been glassed in and smoothed out nicely:


Custom painter, Billy Kidd, busy sanding:


My old daily driver sits in the street. I think she's jealous since she just started making noise from her belt tensioner today.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #133, 02-28-2009 09:46 PM
      Parts sanded and ready for prep:


Billy Kidd has started bagging the car:

When we get in the paint booth the windshield molding will be pulled back with....what else?.."pull-back tape"
Cool stuff. It's specifically made with a thin plastic strip on one side to slip under the rubber molding and pull it back to let you paint under the molding.
Billy assures me the rubber will lay down fine afterwards.

Billy finds a unique way to hang door panels for prep:


Decklids off and ready:


The squirting of primer sealer begins:

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #134, 02-28-2009 09:53 PM
      We are using a white catalyzed primer sealer.
Great high hide properties, (went on beautifully over the sanded yellow)


We had a nice low humidity day with no breeze, so Billy decided to shoot the primer sealer coats outdoors.
We will be moving the car to a paint booth once we are ready to shoot the final sealer coat and begin shooting color


Front bumper cover lookin' good


2 coats of primer sealer on...we're running out of daylight!!


My new quarter panel scoops from JimmyS also looking great and Billy has kept my wheels and tires nice and clean.
HVLP guns are nice!

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #135, 02-28-2009 10:01 PM
      Billy Kidd of "Tricked Out Customs", doing what he does best...squirtin' paint.


A little more attention to the nose:


The hood be lookin' good!


Rear decklid in white primer sealer...Hurry Bill..it's gettin' DARK!


A sea of Fiero parts in white primer


Managed to even get the mirrors their first 2 coats of sealer before calling it a day


All ready for some more sanding tomorrow, (does this sanding stuff ever end?)

I wonder what color is going on over all that white???

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Jake_Dragon MSG #136, 02-28-2009 10:14 PM
      Looking good.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #137, 03-01-2009 06:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

All ready for some more sanding tomorrow, (does this sanding stuff ever end?)

I wonder what color is going on over all that white???



To put it simply....Nope!

I know the color, I know the color. neener neener neener. I'm not telling though.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #138, 03-01-2009 06:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:


To put it simply....Nope!

I know the color, I know the color. neener neener neener. I'm not telling though.


I know the color too and it is going to be awesome !

Great choice randye, can't wait to see it at Daytona !!



av8fiero (crmikulski@gmail.com) MSG #139, 03-03-2009 09:27 AM
      the car looks great, can't wait to see it painted

pontiackid86 (phllyracer@aol.com) MSG #140, 03-03-2009 10:00 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

Billy Kidd of "Tricked Out Customs", doing what he does best...squirtin' paint.


A
A sea of Fiero parts in white primer

All ready for some more sanding tomorrow, (does this sanding stuff ever end?)

I wonder what color is going on over all that white???




i see another firebird peeking its ugly face into the pic


pontiackid86 (phllyracer@aol.com) MSG #141, 03-03-2009 10:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:
Custom painter, Billy Kidd, busy sanding:


My old daily driver sits in the street. I think she's jealous since she just started making noise from her belt tensioner today.



yet again there it is. is that your firebird?



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #142, 03-03-2009 11:49 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pontiackid86:


yet again there it is. is that your firebird?


Yes.My daily driver
It's a 99' with 168k miles on it.
Needs a lot of TLC right now and my son wants another project car so I'm probably giving it to him.
I think a new Solstice would look nice sitting next to my 87' GT so I need to make room.


SAFASTRO MSG #143, 03-03-2009 12:18 PM
      When is this thing going "under the gun"?
Looking really good, man!!!
I gotta say, I did like the yellow!



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #144, 03-03-2009 12:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by SAFASTRO:

When is this thing going "under the gun"?
Looking really good, man!!!
I gotta say, I did like the yellow!



If all goes according to plan, we should have the car out of the booth by this next Sunday evening.

I liked the yellow too, but what's coming soon will be HOT.


pontiackid86 (phllyracer@aol.com) MSG #145, 03-03-2009 02:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Yes.My daily driver
It's a 99' with 168k miles on it.
Needs a lot of TLC right now and my son wants another project car so I'm probably giving it to him.
I think a new Solstice would look nice sitting next to my 87' GT so I need to make room.


it looks good dunno if its a formula or a 6 cylinder but i have a 98 with 112 k on it and its been the best car iv ever had.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #146, 03-06-2009 10:22 PM
     
Tomorrow is going to be a FUN day!



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #147, 10-11-2009 02:54 AM
     


Hey i think this build thread needs an update !

The new paint looks fabulous and i understand you have been getting some new goodies in the mail !??


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #148, 10-11-2009 07:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Hey i think this build thread needs an update !

The new paint looks fabulous and i understand you have been getting some new goodies in the mail !??


You are absolutely correct sir!
I am a terrible slacker for not updating this poor old thread, and yes, the "Tangerine Dream" is getting a lot of new parts.
The UPS man says he wants partial credit for helping with the car since he's brought so much of it to my door!

This week I received:
Fiero Store coated sprint headers
Fiero Store coated Y-pipe
Fiero Store stainless "test pipe", (cat delete)
Fiero Store rear sway bar
Fiero Store strut bar
Fiero Store Aluminum CAI kit
Fiero Store fuel sending unit
A Momo Millennium steering wheel just like this one:

A low profile steering wheel adapter from NRG


3 new gages, (water temp., oil pressure and volts), from Prosport Gages
(Blue / White color, Premium Series with Peak / Warn)
http://prosportgauges.com/p..._warning_gauges.aspx


A VERY nice billet aluminum plate to mount the new gages in the Aux gage pod:


A Rodney Dickman rear decklid strut kit
A set of Rodney Dickman stainless vac lines
Misc. other "goodies" from Rodney

New
A/C Compressor, condensor, receiver dryer, orifice tube and o-ring kit

I also have a set of Speedhut gage faces on the way that will cover the OEM tach and speedo and look like this at night:

(All my gages and interior lights will be cobalt blue at night now,
including my new Sony CDX-M8810 head unit:


I have a few more things to get yet, and I feel a bit guilty for spending so much money on this little car, but it's become an uncontrollable obsession!!

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #149, 10-11-2009 07:40 PM
      We really haven't spent much time doing upgrades or mods to the car this summer, (WAY too hot in the garage)
The new parts are for when the weather cools off soon and I can tolerate being in the garage for more than 30 minutes at a time.
Most weekends have been spent going to car shows and it's been pretty good so far:

4 First Place / Best in Class Trophies
3 Best of Show

Most all the shows have been 150-200 cars with one of them being over 300 cars, (I got a Best of Show at that one much to my surprise)

Trophies stay in the garage with the car, (where they belong)

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mid engine monsters (midenginemonsters@live.com) MSG #150, 10-11-2009 10:05 PM
      dont be slackin with the pics when you get cranked back up

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #151, 10-11-2009 10:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mid engine monsters:

dont be slackin with the pics when you get cranked back up


Heh!
Just to take up a little of the slack I've left, here's some threads on my car that I was too much of a slacker to put in this thread where they probably belong...

First big car show with the old yellow paint:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/070569.html

3.4 Engine rebuild, (starts about 2/3 down the page):
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...3/HTML/000026-7.html

Announcing the “Tangerine Dream”
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074916.html

Details of painting the car Lamborghini orange...OUTDOORS!:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/101963.html
(1/2 way down the first page)

What my Fiero looked like when I first got it and what it looks like now:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/076849.html
(first post on page 1)

Making a rear cradle bar:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/077599.html

Ultra cheap rear brake “upgrade” for automatics:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/100312.html

HID headlight mod:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/079597.html

LED marker light modification:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/080093.html

New starter upgrade:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/108710.html

A/C system overhaul:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/107037.html

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PaulJK MSG #152, 10-12-2009 07:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

I also have a set of Speedhut gage faces on the way ...



your car looks Terrific ! . Word in regards to the SpeedHut faces - BEFORE you pull the needles off the original guages, think long and hard about EXACTLY how you're going to get them back on in the proper position.; then count to 100 and think again. A lot of guys have done this and their guages don't read correctly after they put the needles back on. For gas, you can either fill the tank completely full FIRST then put the needle on the FULL mark or do the reverse using EMPTY. The gas guage scale is NOT linear.

By the way, i mounted the LED 3rd brake light and i'm Very happy with it - THANKS again and i'll post some pics soon.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #153, 01-26-2010 09:37 PM
      It's been awhile, so I thought maybe another update is due.

Just installed a Viper keyless entry system, and I LOVE IT!
Push the button the doors lock, parking lights flash and the horn toots. Push another button and the rear deck lid pops open.
I'm not big on wiring but after installing the keyless entry system I think I could handle about any wiring job.
Hardest part of the job was pulling the dash out, (again), and learning to make good solder joints.

Once that was done I figured I'd start some work in the front compartment area that I've been planning for awhile:



I've never been a huge fan of the spare tire covers, so I thought I'd just cover the whole area!
The cover is made from 3/16 thick ABS plastic some aluminum angle and a few rivets, and is upholstered with a nice durable black headliner material.
I added access doors for the master cylinder reservoir and the windshield washer tank fill.
Always liked the way Ferrari and Lamborghini had all the under hood "guts" neatly covered and thats the look I was going for.



The entire cover simply lifts out when access underneath it is required.
The whole thing is very durable and weighs less than 2 lbs.

Several years ago I bought some electroplating equipment and never used it ... until now.
I polished and nickel plated the hood safety posts, hood latch and numerous nuts and bolts.




The plating is called "Copy Chrome" and although it's actually nickel, it's a "blue" nickel that approximates chrome very nicely.
Google "Caswell Plating" and look for their brush plating kits if you're interested...

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #154, 01-26-2010 09:47 PM
      Next up was installing my new Momo steering wheel with NRG adapter

(Key fob for the new keyless entry is laying on the floor mat )

Since I already had a lot of the interior out while doing the keyless entry system, I disasembled the HVAC control head and machined some new billet aluminum buttons and added a billet aluminum fan switch knob, complete with LED in the knob.


Another view of the billet buttons and switch knob along with my new Sony stereo head unit and shortened shifter.


Installed the new Speed Hut Volt, Water Temp. and Oil Pressure gages:

The gages light up cobalt blue, (same as my new Speed Hut tach, speedo and all other gage faces.
The gages have peak and min warning set and LED warning flash feature.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #155, 01-26-2010 09:52 PM
      More clean-up and refurbish work up front:


The headlight motors have been chrome plated, but the reflection of the wood rafters in my garage make them look rusty in the above photo.

The other side:

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #156, 01-26-2010 09:58 PM
      Both headlight buckets were wrapped in carbon fiber film.

I don't know how well it will hold up, but I'm told it's very durable...we shall see.

Next up was installing some new LED driving lights:


I had to fabricate some simple aluminum brackets to get the lights to "float" in the grill opening:


They look pretty good I think.


When lit, they give the car something of an Audi look


Dan Ro MSG #157, 01-26-2010 10:01 PM
      I really like the billet HVAC buttons. They look beautiful.

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #158, 01-26-2010 10:03 PM
      My new MAP sensor cover from Loyde Rascoe.

It looks great after a LOT of polishing.
(Please ignore the dust on it...I haven't cleaned the car up in awhile)


joesfiero (salalumllc@aol.com) MSG #159, 01-26-2010 10:08 PM
      Looks great Randy, cant wait to see it in person at Daytona.

BTW, my car looks a little different too now, well, not the paint, thats still crappy. I did however get that sagging E-brake cable thing worked out (among other things).

-Joe


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #160, 01-26-2010 10:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by joesfiero:

Looks great Randy, cant wait to see it in person at Daytona.

BTW, my car looks a little different too now, well, not the paint, thats still crappy. I did however get that sagging E-brake cable thing worked out (among other things).

-Joe


Thanks Joe!
It's been a lot of work, but it's coming together now.
I'm looking forward to Daytona, but might have a schedule conflict with the St. Pete Grand Prix.
Hmmmm...Do I go to Daytona, or our first Indy Car race this season???...What to do???
(The wife is pushing for Daytona.)


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #161, 01-26-2010 10:27 PM
      Let's see those LED driving lights lit up!


ps where did you get them?



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #162, 01-26-2010 10:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Let's see those LED driving lights lit up!


ps where did you get them?


The lights are made by "BURNERS" brand, (Optronics), and I got them at Auto Zone.
Will try to get some photos of them lit up posted soon.

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doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #163, 01-26-2010 11:03 PM
      Thanks for the quick response... I'm thinking about installing an LED strip under the turn signals, just as an accent, not driving lights



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #164, 01-27-2010 12:20 AM
     
randyeeeeee !

Wow i absolutely love the new billet knobs and buttons ! you should produce and sell those.




Bradley Jay (bradleyj.thompson@sbcglobal.net) MSG #165, 01-27-2010 12:32 AM
      I agree. Those billet knobs make the Hvac look SO much better.

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #166, 01-27-2010 11:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


randyeeeeee !

Wow i absolutely love the new billet knobs and buttons ! you should produce and sell those.



Glad you like them!
The first set was a real PAIN to make on my small tabletop lathe, but they *could* be made pretty easily now that I have the design worked out.
I wouldn't do them with the lighted LED in the fan switch knob though. It's very difficult to modify the HVAC housing to wire it in.
First thing I would need to do is cost them out with a CNC machine shop.
Installing the push buttons also requires disassembling the entire HVAC head unit and removing the old buttons and replacing them with the billet ones.
A small hole for a set screw also needs to be drilled through the plastic behind the faceplate to secure the fan switch knob.
It's not difficult, just tedious.


JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #167, 01-27-2010 04:20 PM
      Daum Randy, the new stuff looks great!

As for St Pete VS Daytona... I was under the assumption that we had this all worked out? Go to Daytona on Friday and stay the night. Do the show on Saturday and then leave for Tampa/St. Pete. after the show and go to the race on Sunday.



joesfiero (salalumllc@aol.com) MSG #168, 01-27-2010 06:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JimmyS:

Daum Randy, the new stuff looks great!

As for St Pete VS Daytona... I was under the assumption that we had this all worked out? Go to Daytona on Friday and stay the night. Do the show on Saturday and then leave for Tampa/St. Pete. after the show and go to the race on Sunday.



I agree here. If you (both) didnt make it to Daytona I would be very

I plan on coming up there Friday morning, so if you left Saturday night at least we could have one good night to catch up.

-Joe


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #169, 01-27-2010 08:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

Several years ago I bought some electroplating equipment and never used it ... until now.
I polished and nickel plated the hood safety posts, hood latch and numerous nuts and bolts.


The plating is called "Copy Chrome" and although it's actually nickel, it's a "blue" nickel that approximates chrome very nicely.
Google "Caswell Plating" and look for their brush plating kits if you're interested...



After looking at this picture again I noticed that some RUST! was showing up in the grooves of the post and around the rim of the washer
I guess these parts will have to be dip plated rather than brush plated, because I can't seem to get the copper flash or the nickel down into those grooves.
They've been pulled out and new ones with fresh black paint put in for now...
Oh well....

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #170, 01-27-2010 08:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by joesfiero:


I agree here. If you (both) didnt make it to Daytona I would be very

I plan on coming up there Friday morning, so if you left Saturday night at least we could have one good night to catch up.

-Joe


The wife says she hates the idea of spending all weekend at another race track and she's campaigning to spend the whole weekend in Daytona.
(The Daytona show is AT THE RACE TRACK, so go figure...!!!)

I promised JimmyS over-crew credentials for the St Pete Grand Prix so he could get pit access during practice, qualifying and the race.

I don't like the idea of hauling all the way back to Tampa late on Saturday night, (I'd rather stay and party)

I'm going to have someone upset with me no matter what I do...

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joesfiero (salalumllc@aol.com) MSG #171, 01-28-2010 12:14 AM
      LOL well, were awaiting your answer.....................

-Joe

Edit to add: Whoa, I just realized this was my 1000th post. Randy I have graced your thread with my milestone, you should feel blessed lol.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #172, 02-13-2010 09:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Let's see those LED driving lights lit up!



I know you already saw them lit up in my F1F HID install thread, but I thought I'd squeeze a couple more shots of them into this thread:


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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #173, 02-13-2010 09:13 PM
      A few *more* tweaks since my last update on this never ending project:

I installed some HID lights in my Hella 90mm low beam modules:

The HID lights are from TLG-Auto, ("Oslo")
They're 6000K ("diamond white"...I hate those blue tinted HIDs)

I installed LED side marker turn signals on all 4 corners:




and installed LED / DRL accent lights above the front turn signals:


TLG-Auto.com will be offering the DRLs, accent lights and side marker / turn signal kits.
If you like mine, you can get some for yourself from TLG

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #174, 02-13-2010 09:18 PM
      I also changed out the black bezels on the 3 center gages.
The aluminum bezels look better with my Momo steering wheel, my shifter, the billet HVAC buttons and the new aluminum face plate I fabricated around the stereo head unit:


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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #175, 02-13-2010 09:19 PM
      The gages all have a nice cobalt blue glow:


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #176, 02-13-2010 09:22 PM
      Also changed out the switch for my new LED driving lights and a new momentary button for the rear deck lid release:

Both the momentary button and the rocker switch are off-the-shelf parts from Radio Shack. They're very good quality. Much better than anything you'll find at the auto parts store.
There's a small amber LED hidden just above the lower switch to indicate that the driving lighhts are on. The lights are also wired to ignition switched power in case I shut off the car and forget to turn them off.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #177, 02-14-2010 12:01 AM
      I made a concealed ashtray switch panel:

Nothing hooked up to them right now, but I have some future plans for them


USFiero MSG #178, 02-26-2010 12:47 AM
      Just a thought... you could dissamble the brake and gas pedal and plate the gas pedal (I painted mine 'bumper chrome') and strip/polish the aluminum pedal to stand out in that black interior (mine wasn't a super clean job, but the black paint came off easily enough) you'll see the brake pedal could use some detailing.

Pete Matos MSG #179, 02-26-2010 08:50 AM
      Randy,
I really like the look of your interior, did you paint your plactic factory bezels matte black? They look nice that way. also what is involved in getting a nice steering wheel in the car, is it a bolt on or is there an adapter necessary? peace

Pete


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #180, 02-26-2010 09:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Randy,
I really like the look of your interior, did you paint your plactic factory bezels matte black? They look nice that way. also what is involved in getting a nice steering wheel in the car, is it a bolt on or is there an adapter necessary? peace

Pete


Pete,
Yes, I painted the OEM bezels with SEM satin black.
I have a set of machined aluminum bezels for the IP, center console and shifter console, but I thought they added too much silver to the interior.
Trying to keep the aluminum / silver to just the accents for the interior and not over-do it. Sometimes "less is more" if you know what I mean.
You need an adapter to install an aftermarket steeering wheel like the Momo one I have in a Fiero. I used a low profile adapter from NRG that puts the steering wheel at the same distance from the driver as the stock Fiero wheel.

The Momo steering wheel adapters are all too long and push the steering wheel back toward the driver by 3" or more depending on the amount of "dish" to the wheel, so if you don't want your custom steering wheel in your chest, the NRG adapter is the way to go.


americasfuture2k MSG #181, 02-26-2010 01:01 PM
      im not going to look through 5 pages, but isnt tha the C5 yellow?

Pete Matos MSG #182, 02-26-2010 04:02 PM
      Randy,
so when you painted the bezels did you scuff them up or just paint them? I bought some newer unbroken factory bezels for my new fiero and I am having a helluva time finding the shifter surround. The one I have has been upholstered and when I tried to remove the fabric there is a lot of glue underneath, I can remove the glue but the PO scuffed it for adhesion. I could possibly sand it down and then repaint them as you did. How much was that adapter and how much was the wheel. I see a lot of nice custom steering wheels on the ebay fiero ads and thought about getting one but could not figure out how to install it. Was it a ***** ? Ordered a bunch of nice interior upgrades from Fiero thomas recently and am waiting patiently for their arrival. Just gotta get the factory stuff in shape. How hard is it to wire all those gauges in the pod up top? I can machine one of those pods out of aluminum on my cnc mill but I had wanted to go back to stock. After looking at your pics I am starting to rethink that... sure looks like a comfy place to lay some rubber in.... nice work and super nice car... BTW, do you happen to have the paint code for that orange? My car is currently a real faded red and I am considering an orange or back to red right now.... Someday I hope to have my car looking as nice as yours... peace

Pete
865-363-9218


mattwa (mattwa.inc@gmail.com) MSG #183, 02-26-2010 04:11 PM
      Love the car...Jealous of those wheels. And no, i don't think you should change your engine color, the red looks awesome as it is with the orange exterior

Pete Matos MSG #184, 02-26-2010 04:12 PM
      Another question,
is that a quick release wheel adapter? There is some mention of it on the net that way? Unfortunately it is like a hundred bucks!! I know I am a cheap ass... oh well a house and kids will do that to ya... I may try to remove the steering wheel and see if I can cnc machine one for my car.... it does not look too bad really... I guess it has a splined shaft tho.... gotta take it apart and see....

My car came with a lot of the interior plastic bits painted with some vinyl paint. It looks very nice but there is some scuffing around the area your feet rub when getting in and out.... I may have to try this.... it sure looks like a nice touch...was your cars carpet black or did you replace it.. thanks for the help man!!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #185, 02-26-2010 07:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

im not going to look through 5 pages, but isnt tha the C5 yellow?


It was Corvette "Millennium Yellow".
The car was repainted last year and is now Lamborghini "Arancio Borealis", (Orange Pearl)


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #186, 02-26-2010 08:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Another question,
is that a quick release wheel adapter? There is some mention of it on the net that way? Unfortunately it is like a hundred bucks!! I know I am a cheap ass... oh well a house and kids will do that to ya... I may try to remove the steering wheel and see if I can cnc machine one for my car.... it does not look too bad really... I guess it has a splined shaft tho.... gotta take it apart and see....

My car came with a lot of the interior plastic bits painted with some vinyl paint. It looks very nice but there is some scuffing around the area your feet rub when getting in and out.... I may have to try this.... it sure looks like a nice touch...was your cars carpet black or did you replace it.. thanks for the help man!!


The NRG has adapters in both quick release and non quick release.
Mine is the non quick release.
That photo I posted shows the box with a label that says Dodge, along with the part number...it's the same part number for Fiero.
Yes, I'm afraid the NRG adapters are expensive, but they're MUCH better made than the Momo adapters and it's about the only game in town if you want buy a low profile one.

You do CNC machining??!!
If so, we need to talk.
I'm looking for someone that might have a CNC bar chucker lathe to make the billet aluminum HVAC buttons and parts for production.
I'm also looking for someone that can turn a couple of simple 4-5 inch diameter rings in aluminum for me. I'll supply the rough drawings.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #187, 04-08-2010 11:01 AM
     

Ok Randye you keep amazing us, soooooooo what's next !?


GT86FASTBACK (dnd4spd82@verizon.net) MSG #188, 04-08-2010 12:34 PM
      That is a beautiful car. I like the way every little detail is done. I can tell your putting alot of wrench-time into this beauty. Keep it ip!

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #189, 04-08-2010 12:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Ok Randye you keep amazing us, soooooooo what's next !?


The next *big* project will be turning my son's 88 Formula into a chop-top wide body.

But that's going to be a little later...
In the meantime the small improvements on my 87 GT continue.

Just finished the S-10 brake booster swap this week.


I threaded the linkage instead of welding it. That gave me a nice way of adjusting the rod length so it was perfect when I installed it.


All done and bolted in. The braking improvement is quite nice.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #190, 04-08-2010 01:01 PM
      Just before Daytona last month I installed a new A/C compressor, accumulator, orifice tube and o-rings throughout the system.

Bought a vacuum pump and manifold gages and got my A/C working beautifully for the first time in 2 years.

I now know how to do my own A/C!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #191, 04-08-2010 01:05 PM
      The next project is installing a full set of SpeedHut custom gages in the I.P.
I have the SpeedHut gage overlays in the current cluster, but I want my I.P. gages to match the ones I installed in the Aux. panel.
I've already "gutted" a spare cluster and I'm preparing to modify it to be a full "plug & play" unit with LED warning lights, etc.






randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #192, 04-08-2010 01:19 PM
      I just realized, this thread has been going for almost 4 YEARS now and I still haven't made it to the "Construction Zone".
Maybe someday I'll be good enough.......


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #193, 04-08-2010 01:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

I just realized, this thread has been going for almost 4 YEARS now and I still haven't made it to the "Construction Zone".
Maybe someday I'll be good enough.......


That is pretty ridiculous.

This thread should be used as a model of how to do a fiero right.

How do we get this moved to the construction zone where it rightfully belongs ?


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #194, 04-09-2010 08:15 PM
      I haven't posted any photos of the work I've done on the engine bay in awhile, but somebody took a nice photo of it for me at Daytona this year:


It has a few more mods a little more *bling* since last year...

Also had these nice pics taken of my car, again at Daytona last month.





I think I might need to add a chin spoiler.....not sure yet.

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Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #195, 04-10-2010 02:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Let's see those LED driving lights lit up!


ps where did you get them?


I got some for $6 Delivered. Ebay

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #196, 04-27-2010 11:42 AM
      More progress on my new gage install:

I have the new face plate for the gages all machined out of 1/4 inch thick clear Lexan and painted satin black using SEM paint. It's VERY solid.

I'll be using SpeedHut gages. Left will be a speedo, center a 2 1/16 fuel gage and of course the Tach on the right.
LEDs are replacing the old warning lights.
The Speedo and Tach locations were moved inboard and upward on the panel slightly to give a better view while driving and better overall appearance.
The fuel gage location was simply centered between the old temp and fuel gage locations.
Highbeam indicator is in the top center above the fuel gage location and turn signals were moved to the top right and left of the new panel.

The new Lexan face plate was bonded to the old OEM plastic trim plate using MEK solvent.
Here you can see what I cut away from the old face plate before bonding it to the new Lexan piece.
You can also see how much I moved the new Speedo and Tach locations from the original:


LEDs for all the warning lights have been installed:


Very nice LED holders from Radio Shack installed in the faceplate:

The LED holders should match the billet aluminum bezels on my new gages very nicely.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #197, 04-27-2010 11:52 AM
      4000 PPM signal feed for the Speedo was tapped from the OEM circuit board (orange wire)
You can see where I soldered the wire after drilling a small hole thru the board at the top of this pic.


The LED warning lights are from "Superbrightleds" and are all wired up with proper resistors and tested:


The LEDs are installed into the OEM gage "pod" using some nifty 194 male plugs that insert right into the original bulb holders:

Makes changing out any burned out LED simple and saved a lot of soldering inside the pod.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #198, 04-27-2010 11:59 AM
      Speedo circuit board back in the gage pod:


Here you can see how thick the new 1/4" panel is:


The new SpeedHut gages are due to arrive today and I'll post more photos with them in the new panel as soon as they get here.

The idea for this install is to make the whole thing "plug & play" using the OEM harness wiring, (C1, 2 and 3 connectors to the pod) so that installation and future removal for any repairs is as simple as possible. The inverter for the SpeedHut gage lighting will also be contained inside the pod.
There's a LOT of room in there once you "gut" all the OEM gages!


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #199, 04-27-2010 12:05 PM
      I like where this is going! Great work so far!

85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #200, 04-27-2010 12:50 PM
      Randye
You are doing a great job.
I wanted to say it was a pleasure talking to you in Daytona, you were very helpfull and answer all my questions.
I also want to thank you for taking me for a ride on your car, your workmanship is an inspiration for me.

If you don't mind me asking, what are you panning on doing with the faces for the gauges, the ones that light up blue ?
If you are planning on selling them let me know, I really like how they look.

Keep up the great work

Lincoln


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #201, 04-27-2010 12:51 PM
      Here is the layout for the new LED warning lights.
I'm not putting any labels on the new face plate identifying the lights.
I'm the only one that drives my car, so I know what they are, but it's all simple enough to explain to anyone else.


#1 = Headlight High Beam indicator (Blue LED)
#2 = Left turn signal indicator (Green LED)
#3 = Right turn signal indicator (Green LED)
#4 = Seatbelt warning indicator (Red LED)
#5 = VOLTS indicator (Red LED)
#6 = DOOR AJAR indicator (Orange LED)
#7 = SES indicator (Yellow LED)

I didn't include an e-brake indicator because I've removed the e-brake from the car, (it's an automatic)
There is also room left in the panel to add additional LED indicator lights later if I need to. (below the Speedo and Tach)
Changing the LED lights is as simple as popping them out of their holders and unplugging them inside the pod.
LED light colors and locations can be changed very easily later.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #202, 04-27-2010 01:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Randye
You are doing a great job.
I wanted to say it was a pleasure talking to you in Daytona, you were very helpfull and answer all my questions.
I also want to thank you for taking me for a ride on your car, your workmanship is an inspiration for me.

If you don't mind me asking, what are you panning on doing with the faces for the gauges, the ones that light up blue ?
If you are planning on selling them let me know, I really like how they look.

Keep up the great work

Lincoln


Thank You for the compliments and you are most welcome for the ride!

My old gages are going to my son for now.
He's bulding an 88 Formula "wide body" and will be joining this forum soon and detailing his build.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #203, 04-27-2010 01:30 PM
      Randye i gotta ask,

Man you are always coming up with something new,..where do you get all your creative ideas from ?

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #204, 04-27-2010 03:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Randye i gotta ask,

Man you are always coming up with something new,..where do you get all your creative ideas from ?



Where do I get these ideas??

Well, sometimes its the voices in my head that just won't SHUT UP!!
Other times its from my"friends" who live deep inside the earth. They send me visions while I'm sleeping.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #205, 04-27-2010 04:04 PM
      One photo I forgot to post...
The new gage panel nestled snugly in the housing:


I'm going to go back out and sit on the front porch and watch for the UPS man now...


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #206, 04-27-2010 06:46 PM
      MY new gages are HERE!
My new gages are HERE!
(Like a kid at Christmas....)


Yep, thats an 8000 RPM Tach and a 160 MPH Speedo with digital odo and trip odo!
(I can dream about the RPMs and speed, can't I ???)
The fuel gage has a built in programmable "low fuel" light too!
SpeedHut gages are THE BEST.

Both the tach and the speedo are also programmable, so if / when I ever swap engines or trannys they'll work just fine.

More later.....

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #207, 04-27-2010 07:06 PM
      OK..I just couldn't wait.
Had to at least do a quick "test fit" and see what all this is going to look like..




The new gage bezels and the LED holders look GREAT together and the overall look of the I.P. was just what I was looking for.
Yep, I'm thrilled!....now to fire up the soldering iron and *finish* this upgrade!!

Stay Tuned!


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #208, 04-27-2010 07:31 PM
      The gauges look fantastic. I like the aluminum on black look, and they look well built.

How difficult was it to get the signals from the stock circuit board to work with those gauges, or has that been sorted out yet?



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #209, 04-27-2010 07:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

The gauges look fantastic. I like the aluminum on black look, and they look well built.

How difficult was it to get the signals from the stock circuit board to work with those gauges, or has that been sorted out yet?


Couldn't be easier.
I just followed what others have done to tap into the 4k PPM signal that have swapped in other dashes and clusters.
(See the circuitboard pic on pg. 5 of this thread)
You can simply solder a wire anywhere along that trace on the board.
I haven't tested this yet, but I'm assured it works fine....we shall see.

I'm really excited that all my I.P. gages will now match the center console gages!

...of course now I have 6 different gage program buttons to play with too.....

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Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #210, 04-27-2010 08:33 PM
      How long are you are going to keep outdoing yourself?? Nice!

temulance (vic@kalindscharms.com) MSG #211, 04-27-2010 09:33 PM
      I read this thread from first to last! All I can say is awsome! Im new here and this just makes me want to go out ot my car and do something to it! LOL... PS my wife thought it was an awsome car! Thank you because..... she said "thats what you should do to yours... redo the whole thing inside out!" LOL... For that I thank you!

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #212, 04-28-2010 01:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

I have the new face plate for the gages all machined out of 1/4 inch thick clear Lexan and painted satin black using SEM paint. It's VERY solid.




Just wondering...but did you modify my drawing at all, other than the thickness of the material? I haven't gotten a chance to make one yet and I'm rather curious how accurate my drawing was? Looks like a pretty good fit...did I do well, haha?

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #213, 04-28-2010 03:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 1986 Fiero GT:


Just wondering...but did you modify my drawing at all, other than the thickness of the material? I haven't gotten a chance to make one yet and I'm rather curious how accurate my drawing was? Looks like a pretty good fit...did I do well, haha?



Your CAD file was just fine, but I did end up moving the Speedo and Tach inboard and upward slightly, (approx. .375) and did a layout directly on the Lexan to position & drill holes for the LED holders.


1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #214, 04-28-2010 06:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Your CAD file was just fine, but I did end up moving the Speedo and Tach inboard and upward slightly, (approx. .375) and did a layout directly on the Lexan to position & drill holes for the LED holders.


Awesome, haha. That's what I like to hear. I was slightly worried about the gigantic radius at the very top of the panel, but I'm glad to hear it fits well. The fillets on the edge are good too?

Oh, and by the way...that panel and LEDs looks great. The brushed aluminum trim rings and LED holders look amazing against that black panel. Pretty much the same thing I'll be doing with my panel.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #215, 04-30-2010 01:28 PM
      The gage upgrade is FINISHED!
I think the install looks good, especialy since all my gages now match!




Drivers view:


Outside lookin' in:


Everything works like a charm, except that my seatbelt warning LED seems to stay lit just a wee tiny bit, (like a small pinpoint of yellow light).
I might need to add another resistor to that line, but it's barely noticable unless you look for it.
The Tach is already calibrated but I still need to drive the car over a measured 2 miles to accurately calibrate the Speedo.
The fuel gage has to be calibrated at BOTH completely full and completely empty to work accurately.
Not sure how I'm going to do that yet, short of simply running it till empty, calibrating the gage and then filling it up and calibrating at full....
Should work well though with the new Fiero Store sending unit I just put in the tank. It's showing what I assume to be proper Ohms at the dash harness now, so we shall see.
Now on to the NEXT upgrade!...What will it be????

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americasfuture2k MSG #216, 04-30-2010 04:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

The fuel gage has a built in programmable "low fuel" light too!



whooooa, now thats what im talking about.



americasfuture2k MSG #217, 04-30-2010 05:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by yellowstone:

Too bad our cars will never meet :-)



if yellowstone moved to florida, maybe the cars can meet.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #218, 05-05-2010 12:56 AM
     

Randye something long overdue is coming your way !


87antuzzi (krisantuzzi@vzw.blackberry.net) MSG #219, 05-05-2010 02:41 AM
      Congrats.

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #220, 05-05-2010 02:57 AM
      WOW!
Finally made it to the Construction Zone after 4 years!
I was beginning to think that my build was one of the best kept secrets on PFF

Guess it's appropriate to use my brand new sig for the first time here too:


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #221, 05-05-2010 03:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Randye something long overdue is coming your way !


Tony, if you had something to do with my thread getting moved to the "CZ", I thank you and offer you my sincere gratitude!
I would have never *asked* to have my build moved here, I just thought it was something that "happened" if it was interesting enough or good enough.



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #222, 05-05-2010 03:14 AM
      This must be "my day".
Attended a local cruise-in / car show today, along with 50 other cars and got a trophy for PEOPLES CHOICE!
All the car owners had to vote for a car other than their own and damned if I didn't get the prize!
Having won quite a few trophies since we started showing the car and even getting a few "best of show in class" in some large shows, I really treasure this "peoples choice" award because it means that Fieros are getting favorably noticed and are gaining popularity even around some VERY nice street rods and customs.


.....




carbon MSG #223, 05-05-2010 07:16 AM
      The car is great man... congrats on the thread move!

Sofa King MSG #224, 05-05-2010 10:48 AM
      VERY SLICK!

85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #225, 05-05-2010 11:32 AM
     
The gauges look great, they match perfectly
Good job.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #226, 05-05-2010 03:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Tony, if you had something to do with my thread getting moved to the "CZ", I thank you and offer you my sincere gratitude!
I would have never *asked* to have my build moved here, I just thought it was something that "happened" if it was interesting enough or good enough.


You are very welcome.

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #227, 05-13-2010 12:54 AM
      Well, the next upgrades to "Tangerine Dream" are just starting.
Actually, the upgrades never seem to stop!

I'm waiting on a 7730 ECU and adapter harness from "Mulletproofmonk" and a reprogrammed memcal from Ryan at Sinister Performance.
Not much to document on that swap that hasn't already been done elsewhere, so I'm just waiting for the parts to arrive and get them installed and wired up.

The other upgrade is my starter....

One of the very few *old* parts that I re-used during the 3.4L engine rebuild was the old original 2.8 starter.
We took it to the parts store and tested it and it checked out fine, but I guess it finally has out lived it's time after 23 years of faithful service.
The blasted thing has stuck engaged to the flywheel *running* one one occasion, and has disengaged, but kept running on another occasion.
The solenoid is my first suspicion, but rather than rebuild that huge old beast, I've opted for THIS:


It's a new gear reduction type starter for a 98' Grand Prix 3.8L

I checked the OEM style starter against this one at the parts store counter and the mounting, nose length and pinion gear all look to be the same.
Another thread here on PFF listed all the vehicles that this type of starter is used in and suggested it was a "bolt on" replacement for the OEM 2.8L starter which I used on my 3.4, so I figured I'd give it a try...

These pics give a better idea of how small this thing is:




If time allows, I'll be installing it tomorrow or Friday and hopefully it will fit and work properly.
One thing's for certain...I won't have any trouble lifting it into place to bolt it in!

...



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #228, 05-13-2010 01:15 AM
      One more little item:

At a car show we entered last weekend they were shooting photos of all the cars against a "green screen" back drop on the side of a building.
They offered a framed and matted 18 X 24 photo of your car super-imposed onto a variety of backgrounds of your choice for sale.
We bought this one:


Hard to shoot a photo of it directly straight on because of the glare from the glass, but you get the idea.
It's one of the coolest photos of my car that I've gotten yet, even though it's *phony* as all hell
(Only the car, the little gray stone wall and some of the asphalt pavement are real...the rest is photoshopped in, but VERY nicely done.)
They even match the color of your car in the border around the matt.

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Vendetta (atrizzino@gmail.com) MSG #229, 05-13-2010 04:10 AM
      What is the part number for the starter? Thanks in advance!

Austin


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #230, 05-13-2010 04:11 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Vendetta:

What is the part number for the starter? Thanks in advance!

Austin


Auto Zone part number: DLG9998S


Tony Kania MSG #231, 05-13-2010 04:32 PM
      I am usually not a big fan of complete guage swaps, but once again your ideas are fresh, and tasteful. I really like the pic from the passenger seat. Really looks like a factory upgrade.

kwagner MSG #232, 05-13-2010 05:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

One more little item:

At a car show we enterd last weekend they were shooting photos of all the cars against a "green screen" back drop on the side of a building.
They offered a framed and matted 18 X 24 photo of your car super-imposed onto a variety of backgrounds of your choice for sale.


That is pretty neat. Congrats on getting to the CZ! Now I have another thread to follow


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #233, 05-14-2010 02:05 PM
      Upgraded starter swap DONE!
Works great!
Plus it shaved about 10 lbs. off the car's weight...(now I can eat a couple more cheeseburgers! )
Complete thread here: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/108710.html



Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #234, 07-14-2010 09:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

I made a concealed ashtray switch panel:

Nothing hooked up to them right now, but I have some future plans for them


Could you go into some detail on how you made them? Did you put the plate over the ash tray, or instead of? (I can't tell from the picture)

I'm actually planning on doing a setup just like it.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #235, 07-15-2010 02:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:


Could you go into some detail on how you made them? Did you put the plate over the ash tray, or instead of? (I can't tell from the picture)

I'm actually planning on doing a setup just like it.


Not too difficult to make.
I cut the bottom out of one of the OEM metal ashtrays with a cut-off wheel on a Dremel and then fabricated an black ABS plastic panel to fit down inside the ashtray snugly.
The panel rests on the raised portions inside the ashtray, not all the way at the bottom.
The ABS panel was drilled for 2 switches, (Radio Shack)
I didn't take any photos of the fabrication, but it's easy to just pull out right now, (nothing wired to the switches), so I'll try to get some pics taken later.

I might mention that the switches from Radio Shack are very nice. They're better made and have higher voltage and amp ratings that anything I've found in the auto parts stores.
And they're usually *cheaper*
Well worth stopping by a R/S store and browsing through their parts.

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Wickedlilpleasures (mysteriousmistymoon@yahoo.com) MSG #236, 07-15-2010 02:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

Low angle view of the new taillights, (just taped in place to see how they look)
New exhaust, without the new tips, peeking out from underneath.



WOW~! beautiful work where did you get those tail lights how much :O I want i want!~!~

your work is amazinG!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #237, 07-15-2010 03:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Wickedlilpleasures:


WOW~! beautiful work where did you get those tail lights how much :O I want i want!~!~

your work is amazinG!


Thank You for the compliment!
The taillight panel is from Ken Hines, ("Kahines") website: http://www.kahines.com/
It's a "bolt-in" so you can always go back to stock taillights if you want.
I ended up not installing it and instead went with new, (reproduction), OEM taillight lenses from Fiero Store, but re-thinking that now...
The round lights are 82' Corvette lights and the Kahines panel is designed to bolt them right in.
They're scarce, but you can often fnd the original Corvette lights on Ebay, however there are some nice LED reproduction ones now available, (also Ebay)
The original 82' solid red Vette lights are *very* hard to find anymore, but the ones with the clear / white center part in them show up from time to time, it's just hard to find nice unscratched ones.

I may be going back to the Kahines panel and the LED Corvette lights soon.


jim94 (jcmusco@comcast.net) MSG #238, 07-15-2010 06:03 PM
      wow, dash looks great. i too put my garage door opener in my ash tray. thanks for posting

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #239, 08-02-2010 06:02 PM
      I had planned on buying one of Amida's new 512 noses for the car, however I just got a very good deal on one of these:



So I will still have an Amida nose on my car soon, just not the new 512 one.

Planning on using the smoked turn signal lights too. I think they will look better with my orange paint than the amber or clear ones.


I also have some very cool and very special new taillights coming soon, but they are currently under "top secret" development
I think they will be popular enough that I'm actually planning to offer them for sale.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #240, 09-16-2010 12:09 PM
     
Lambo interlude,..... hehehe

Dying to see the new nose on !


1988holleyformula MSG #241, 09-17-2010 01:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

I think the install looks good, especialy since all my gages now match!


Now on to the NEXT upgrade!...What will it be????


Just a humble opinion, but I think your silver/purple head unit looks out of place in this perfect interior

I think a simple black head unit would look great in its place, something like this?


Just throwing .02 into your build thread, can't wait to see that 355 bumper in the pearl orange!

edit: Just read about the smoked turn signals on the new nose, that with your 'top-secret' tail lights is really gonna give this car a new and improved look. Page 7 OWNAGE!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #242, 10-07-2010 12:16 AM
     

Bumping one of my favorite threads.

Randye how is the nose job coming along ?


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #243, 11-15-2010 03:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Bumping one of my favorite threads.

Randye how is the nose job coming along ?


No progress to speak of lately.
I hope I haven't lost interest in the car
Lots of personal and family things going on the past few months that have not allowed me to spend much time on it...


moonmoon2142 (nroes45@gmail.com) MSG #244, 12-06-2010 09:41 AM
      ok did you fix your center stuff or was it just caped in good condition

Tony Kania MSG #245, 12-06-2010 11:47 AM
      Randye, your car is so amazing, that we can carry over your interest during hard times for a while.

Hoping that all is well with you and yours.

Tony


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #246, 02-20-2011 12:52 AM
     
Randye,

You going to make it to Daytona ?


infinitewill MSG #247, 02-20-2011 11:22 AM
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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #248, 04-02-2011 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Randye,

You going to make it to Daytona ?


No


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #249, 04-10-2011 03:15 PM
      After a VERY long "vacation" from this car, I have *finally* regained some interest in it!!
I was honestly at the point where I was seriously considering selling it and moving on to something else.

Yesterday my Amida 355 nose was delivered back from the paint booth, and there's nothing like the smell of fresh fiberglass and paint to pique my interest in the car again.



I was a bit worried that this bumper would look strange in Lambo orange with the rest of the car, but so far it looks like it will be great.



I purchased a pair of "smoked" lens turn signals on Ebay to replace the amber lights that came with the nose because I was afraid that the amber lights would just "disappear" into the orange pearl paint and might look odd.
I think I made the right choice




I checked the amber lights to be sure of my suspicion:

The amber lights do get lost a bit, but it's not that bad. I still think I like the dark smoked lenses better though and they fit better with the rest of the color scheme of the car anyway.

Next step is to remove the stock nose, cut a small amount of steel from the front bumper corners per Amida's instructions and *carefully* mount the new nose.
Luckily I already have the wiring in place for the fog lights in the new nose, so that will save some work.

Once the nose is mounted we can cut & buff the new paint to a mirror finish



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #250, 04-10-2011 03:25 PM
      Good to see you haven't lost interest in it. I've always thought this was one of the cleanest cars on the forum here. The paint is stunning as well. I definitely like the smoked turn signals better. Good choice.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #251, 04-10-2011 03:26 PM
     
Nice !

Randye, good to see you back in action. There is always something to do to improve these cars, although yours is pretty darn good already.

The nose is going to look awesome, can't wait to see it.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #252, 04-10-2011 03:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Good to see you haven't lost interest in it. I've always thought this was one of the cleanest cars on the forum here. The paint is stunning as well. I definitely like the smoked turn signals better. Good choice.


Thanks for the compliments!

The poor car isn't so *clean* right now.
It has about 5mm of dust all over it from just sitting in the garage without the car cover on it.
Nothing a good bath and some polishing won't fix quickly though.


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #253, 04-10-2011 03:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Nice !

Randye, good to see you back in action. There is always something to do to improve these cars, although yours is pretty darn good already.

The nose is going to look awesome, can't wait to see it.


Thanks Tony.
I'm anxious to see your chop top too.
I don't know that I could ever get the courage up to chop Tangerine Dream, but THAT would be "interesting" wouldn't it?


Bloozberry MSG #254, 04-10-2011 06:51 PM
      Looks great to me too (although I may be biased towards anything looking like a 355). Tell me, what are those turn signal lights from originally? I'm looking for some for my project car since the ones that came with the kit were amateurishly poured with too much color and lots of bubbles in the acrylic. Oh, and didn't come with reflectors either.

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #255, 04-10-2011 09:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bloozberry:

Looks great to me too (although I may be biased towards anything looking like a 355). Tell me, what are those turn signal lights from originally? I'm looking for some for my project car since the ones that came with the kit were amateurishly poured with too much color and lots of bubbles in the acrylic. Oh, and didn't come with reflectors either.


Jeep Liberty front bumper turn signals.


Bridgetown MSG #256, 04-10-2011 11:02 PM
      Randye,
Just a heads up, my signal lights fit into the libery light sockets with no modification, takes a bit of fussing, but they fit and lock in good and solid. Looks familiar.

Glad to see you back in the garage!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #257, 04-11-2011 04:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bridgetown:

Randye,
Just a heads up, my signal lights fit into the libery light sockets with no modification, takes a bit of fussing, but they fit and lock in good and solid. Looks familiar.
Glad to see you back in the garage!


What a beauiful GT!!
It looks almost like an "albino twin" to my car.

Thank you for the heads-up on the front signal lights.
I had noticed that the openings in the new light housings looked like they might accept the Fiero sockets, but had not tried them yet.
I'm only left wondering what you might have done for the smaller socket and bulb in the Jeep Liberty light housing?
It looks to be the same or similar to the original Fiero side marker light socket....
Did you leave it empty or did you wire in another light somehow?

I'm sure I'll have a few more questions for you before I finally get this nose mounted on the car.
While Rob Amida's products are fantastic quality, I've unfortunately found his instructions he included to be lacking in clarity

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joesfiero (salalumllc@aol.com) MSG #258, 04-13-2011 04:10 PM
      Good to see you getting back into the game Randy. We need to get together to get some photos of our cars, I am curious to see how close our oranges are. I know yours is a pearl and mines just base/clear but colorwise I think they are fairly close.

Its funny, before I ever knew of your car I wanted to paint mine yellow. Now I fell in love with the bright orange but didn't want to "copy" yours and Im very pleased with the way mine turned out.

-Joe


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #259, 04-13-2011 11:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by joesfiero:

Good to see you getting back into the game Randy. We need to get together to get some photos of our cars, I am curious to see how close our oranges are. I know yours is a pearl and mines just base/clear but colorwise I think they are fairly close.

Its funny, before I ever knew of your car I wanted to paint mine yellow. Now I fell in love with the bright orange but didn't want to "copy" yours and Im very pleased with the way mine turned out.

-Joe


Lets do it!
A nice photo session might be good.

We also need to discuss a much needed swap for my car.
If i can swing the funds, i am ready to copy YOUR car


Bridgetown MSG #260, 04-14-2011 05:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


What a beauiful GT!!
It looks almost like an "albino twin" to my car.

Thank you for the heads-up on the front signal lights.
I had noticed that the openings in the new light housings looked like they might accept the Fiero sockets, but had not tried them yet.
I'm only left wondering what you might have done for the smaller socket and bulb in the Jeep Liberty light housing?
It looks to be the same or similar to the original Fiero side marker light socket....
Did you leave it empty or did you wire in another light somehow?

I'm sure I'll have a few more questions for you before I finally get this nose mounted on the car.
While Rob Amida's products are fantastic quality, I've unfortunately found his instructions he included to be lacking in clarity



My second socket is blank, I just taped over the hole. I like thtat idea of a running light though. It's been over a year since I installed mine, but I'll do my best to answer any questions you have. BTW I love that paint on your car!


joesfiero (salalumllc@aol.com) MSG #261, 04-15-2011 09:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Lets do it!
A nice photo session might be good.

We also need to discuss a much needed swap for my car.
If i can swing the funds, i am ready to copy YOUR car


Im ready to lend a hand. I have the powrtuner so we can even live tune your car if you get a 3800 in it. BTW hows Andrew's car coming? He said he wanted me to come help with the harness but never called to set a date.

-Joe


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #262, 04-21-2011 03:49 PM
      Well, it looks like this is coming out :



...and this is going in :





Seems like I just built the 3.4 and got it all working with the 7730 ECU swap, but after about 1,500 miles with it, (and that awful 125C automatic), I knew I would never be *really* happy with this car until it had the GO to match the SHOW

My son had this setup to go in his Lambo Mercialago kit car, but he has changed direction, so it's going into Dad's car now.
He was even good enough to paint the SC and some other parts a nice orange pearl high temp for me ....what a good son

With the new Fi355 Amida nose and the new "heart transplant" this is shaping up to be a car I think I can live with now....



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #263, 04-21-2011 04:07 PM
      Thats great news You'll love the 3800SC. What transmission do you plan on going with?

The engine paint is unique too!


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #264, 04-21-2011 04:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Thats great news You'll love the 3800SC. What transmission do you plan on going with?

The engine paint is unique too!


Entire drivetrain came out of a 02' Grand Prix GTP with automatic, (< 80k miles), so I'll simply be staying auto except I'll have the 4T65eHD now.
The engine checked out great, but now has all new gaskets, SC coupler and new SC oil and a few other odds & ends that I don't recall right now.
My son even has a set of Fiero X mounts for this thing that he just bought, so it looks like all I need is axles, exhaust, fuel pump, some minor A/C hose lengthening, some harness work and a few other miscellaneous parts and this will be on the road fairly quickly.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #265, 04-21-2011 05:04 PM
     

Sweet !


joesfiero (salalumllc@aol.com) MSG #266, 04-25-2011 03:26 PM
      Another direction with his engine choice, or another direction with the car in general, like selling it?

Either way, definitely let me know if you want help with the swap. Your welcome to come down to my place anytime and ride in my car if you ever need more motivation too.

Im thinking that car should make it to Daytona next year with the new engine no?

-Joe


NoMoreRicers (wilson.kegler@gmail.com) MSG #267, 04-28-2011 12:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

Well, it looks like this is coming out :






What are your plans for the 3.4?

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to say how nice your car looks! I've always lurked on your thread but never posted

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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #268, 05-01-2011 03:29 PM
      Just to repost some misc. stuff here to gather up a lot of work done on this car that I showed in other threads.
It probably should have been captured here, but much of it wound up in either "general" or "tech" sections, so I'm attempting to catalog all of the history of this car here as well.


 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

First big car show with the old yellow paint:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/070569.html

3.4 Engine rebuild, (starts about 2/3 down the page):
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...3/HTML/000026-7.html

Announcing the “Tangerine Dream”
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/074916.html

Details of painting the car Lamborghini orange...OUTDOORS!:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/101963.html
(1/2 way down the first page)

What my Fiero looked like when I first got it and what it looks like now:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/076849.html
(first post on page 1)

Making a rear cradle bar:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/077599.html

Ultra cheap rear brake “upgrade” for automatics:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/100312.html

HID headlight mod:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/079597.html

LED marker light modification:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/080093.html

New starter upgrade:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/108710.html

A/C system overhaul:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/107037.html

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Ruffy MSG #269, 05-07-2011 10:33 AM
      Are you selling the old 3.4?

infinitewill MSG #270, 10-25-2011 12:51 PM
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randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #271, 10-25-2011 05:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by infinitewill:

You ever going to put that new nose on Randy????

Dr. W.



I really, really hope to Doc.
Talking to someone like you about *my* lack of ambition and enthusiasm for my Fiero right now does make me feel silly.
Where I can't seem to find the motivation to even spend 5 minutes in my garage right now, *you* go and beat back the dreaded "C" and motor on with your Fiero like nothing ever happened.
I have nothing like the health troubles you have faced and yet I'm honestly afraid that I have lost all interest in my Fiero.
The gloom is so deep that I even told JimmyS the other day that I might be inclined to just sell the car if I can't get excited about it again soon.

I wasn't about to nearly kill myself from heat stroke in the garage again this summer like I did for the previous 4 summers , but now that cooler weather is here in FL I've lost another excuse for not doing *something* out there.

The deal with my son for the 3800SC fell through and he sold the motor and trans along with the Lambo kit car.
He needed the $ for his upcoming wedding to his lovely fiance, so I agree with his decision.
The buyer of the kit car wanted the whole package, and my son got a good price for everything, so Old Dad lost out on the deal
I had thought that the 3800SC swap from my 3.4 would have brought a renewed interest in the car to me, but alas that is not to be for now.

When I told the wife that I *might* sell the Fiero, her response was:
"Like HELL you are!!, Not after all that money you put into the damn thing and all the crap we went through to get it just to what it is now.!!"
wow...who knew? I thought she would be thrilled to see it go...

Perhaps what I really need is an *Intervention* to get me out of this.

Maybe you could get Jimmy and Joe and a few others to drop by and physically drag my sorry depressed keister out of my office and into the garage and put a wrench in my hand and shove me under the car.

Honestly, I wish I knew how to break out of this.
I remember not that long ago when I had FUN with that car.



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #272, 10-25-2011 06:07 PM
      Just have to take it out for a spin! Go to a show or two and you'll get the feeling back

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #273, 10-25-2011 07:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Just have to take it out for a spin! Go to a show or two and you'll get the feeling back


Bingo ! I couldn't say it fast enough.

Take that baby out for a spin and watch people's tongues hang out and you will go from gloom to smiles !


infinitewill MSG #274, 10-26-2011 03:16 AM
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bowrapennocks MSG #275, 10-26-2011 10:38 AM
      Will,
Great to hear your progress on colon cancer. I too have had a regular colonoscopies, which fortunately have been normal. However, cancer hits you in other more insidious ways. Last November, I was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia. This baby does not have the high cure rate of colon cancer. One day you seem normal and the next, perhaps a few weeks later you are fatigued and feverish. I went through four rounds of chemo prior to a bone marrow transplant. Chemo for leukemia is quite different: one week of in hospital IV drip which knocks your immune system to zero, followed by a month of in hospital stay to recover a semblance of an immune system. As I am die hard Fiero nut, I bought a wrecked 4.9 95 Deville via Internet auction two weeks after transplant and conned my son in law to drive me the 40 miles to the scrap yard, where I drove that 54K mile baby home. If my doctors knew what I had done with a compromised immune system only 2 weeks after transplant, they would have gone nuts. Unfortunately, I had a relapse of leukemia after two months and have gone through three more rounds of chemo since. That has not stopped me, as I also bought all the essentials for the F40 six speed and managed to remove the 4.9 from the Caddy between hospital stays. And by the way, I am in remission now.

So I guess the message to you and Randy is keep on trucking; Fiero work never stops.
Jim (a.k.a Dr. J).


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #276, 02-04-2012 09:17 PM
     

Bump for randye,

We miss you bud, hope you get the itch back !


yellowstone MSG #277, 02-12-2012 12:07 PM
      Will we meet at Daytona this year? Hope so! You know my Fiero from years back and I guess you may like to see it again with the newest mods by Whodeanie!

BTW, what ever happened to the SS HVAC knobs that you wanted to get for me at some point? Still interested...



randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #278, 05-03-2012 04:49 PM
      Reposted here from "Post a pic of your Fiero taken today" ( http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../077736-13.html#p506 )

I'm reposting it here to say that sometimes life, health and fortune have direct effects on any "build" and that despite all the encouragement in the world from friends, you sometimes just have to work through the bad times and pray for the good times to come again.

That said, the day after I posted the following, I did go get a new battery for the car, and I'm trying hard to get that old spark back again, (pun intended)




These have not been good times for Tangerine Dream or me.

Reflecting my mood and present state of affairs, her image is appropriately out of focus and absent of natural light. She sits alone in the unkempt, darkened garage, her only company is a still unistalled Fi 355 nose whose constant grin seems to mock her sad state. She has a dead battery, a tank full of stale fuel and to add insult to injury, a forgotten bulk package of toilet paper resting on her nose.
Piles of storage boxes, hastily used and forgotten tools, appliances and other detrius of life encircle her like a shabby prison. .

These have not been good times for Tangerine Dream or me.
It has been well over a year since she and I last felt the wind of the open road and the taste of freedom away from daily worries.
Her beautiful color now dulled by a layer of dust she looks forlorn and faded and yet she never fails to smile at me every time I happen into the garage. She looks eagerly at me and says, "Today?, Will today be the day you once again show me the love and care you once did? Will today be the day we fly along the roads again in a blaze of color and noise and laughter? Today?"

I stop for a moment, look at her, and think, "No, not today. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe this weekend, Maybe when......"
I hit the light switch, close the door and walk away and she is soon once again forgotten.

These have not been good times for Tangerine Dream or me.

Maybe tomorrow............


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #279, 05-03-2012 10:37 PM
      Snap out of it randye.

It is hard to see one of the most innovative, and inspirational guys on the forum fall into a funk. That beautiful car of yours needs you !

Do you know how many people would love to have a car like yours ?? You sir are truly blessed.

Whatever it is you are going thru, let the car be your release, your escape. You will be amazed at what you get done and how much your stress or gloom gets relieved.
Best wishes

Tony

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #280, 05-04-2012 02:27 PM
      Anyone up for a roadtrip to his house? Maybe we can "gang up" on both Randye and TD...dump the stale fuel, clear the dust, rip out her perfectly good beating heart while offering her a new one???? Just sayin it might be fun. Of course, there would need to be a BBQ and some frosty malted beverages....

Who knows....maybe today is the day!!!!

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Goldenfoot05 (bobbiesbizz_05@hotmail.com) MSG #281, 05-05-2012 12:03 AM
      Wow.... that literally brought tears to my eyes.... :'( Im no where near enough to come for a cruise but, it made me think of mine sitting in the garage and how it does just sit there grinning every time the garage door is opened and then i think how disappointed it must feel when the door is closed again and the lights are shut off to sit another day in the dark garage, undriven.... I think ill take it for a run tomorrow.
I would drive your tangerine dream EVERYWHERE! Its GORGEOUS! Cheer up! Or else you may walk out there some day and catch your tangerine dream frowning!


infinitewill MSG #282, 05-05-2012 08:47 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Anyone up for a roadtrip to his house? Maybe we can "gang up" on both Randye and TD...dump the stale fuel, clear the dust, rip out her perfectly good beating heart while offering her a new one???? Just sayin it might be fun. Of course, there would need to be a BBQ and some frosty malted beverages....

Who knows....maybe today is the day!!!!



I would fly down just to get Randy a boot in the keister Its time for the fog to lift my friend

Dr. W.


ALL_CAMMED_UP MSG #283, 05-08-2012 11:21 PM
     
I love my Burgundy GT, but why do I find yellow fieros so sporty looking?


randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #284, 05-09-2012 05:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ALL_CAMMED_UP:


I love my Burgundy GT, but why do I find yellow fieros so sporty looking?


I like yellow Fieros too, and I like pearl orange ones like mine, but before mine was yellow or pearl orange it was burgundy.

This photo shows what it all looked like when it had just begun. I had just started the complete teardown and parts were arriving almost daily.



Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #285, 05-09-2012 06:19 PM
      Over the last 12yrs I have had my lows where I didn't care much about my red car. Then the love re-surges. Funny that I see over and over people put a lot of effort on a 3.4 just to be disappointed later. Being there done that. Get that 3800 done and you will want to drive it every day

randye (randy@enerson1.com) MSG #286, 05-10-2012 12:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Alex4mula:

Over the last 12yrs I have had my lows where I didn't care much about my red car. Then the love re-surges. Funny that I see over and over people put a lot of effort on a 3.4 just to be disappointed later. Being there done that. Get that 3800 done and you will want to drive it every day


I will admit to being only mildly disappointed with my 3.4 swap, but I think thats mainly because I kept the old T125C 3 speed automatic when I should have upgraded to a 4 speed overdrive like the 4T60 at the time I did the swap.

You are correct that the 3800sc with it's auto trans would be an ideal swap for me, and should fortune once again smile upon me, that is precisely what I have in mind. As you can see from my thread, that swap was actually *almost* underway until circumstances changed.

All of that is history now though. The GOOD NEWS is that this past weekend Tangerine Dream got a replacement Optima Battery, (under warranty), and she was freed from her garage prison and treated a "A Day at the Spa"...( a complete car wash, clay bar treatment and glass polish)
Her tire presures were checked and she was started and run up to operating temp. (The old stale fuel smells awful but she seemed to run ok on it, just not "snappy")
Amazingly she runs almost precisely like she did when I last turned the key (except for the stale fuel), and has no obvious leaks or other problems after such long storage. Even the A/C seems to still be fully charged and blows nice and cold !!

The last bit of business I was tinkering with before I "abandoned" the car was the 7730 ECU swap that failed , (I think due to a bad ECU). I found the *new* ECU I purchased way back then and installed the chip from Ryan at Sinister Performance in it and will try the "adapter harness" I bought one more time. ( The adapter harness could also be the problem but the forum member I bought it from swore to me that he checked all his work and had not had any problems before)



I would MUCH prefer to repin the existing harness into the new 7730 connectors, but I'm afraid my confidence (and eyesight) might not be up to the task now.

SO!...I thank everyone for their concern and their prodding and wishes for me to regain interest and get back to the car again.
I'm trying the best I can and figure maybe a little more every day might get me going again back at the pace I once was at.

.....then there's that Fi355 nose STILL to be installed and cut & buffed......

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infinitewill MSG #287, 03-06-2014 11:05 AM
      Hey Randy,

Are you ever going to get back into the shop and finish your bumper and other upgrades????

Hope you and the tangerine Dream are both well

Dr. W.



no2pencil (jason@akroncdnr.com) MSG #288, 04-16-2014 03:33 PM
      This is by far one of my favourite Fieros. Looking forward to positive updates

zmcdonal MSG #289, 04-17-2014 03:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

This must be "my day".
Attended a local cruise-in / car show today, along with 50 other cars and got a trophy for PEOPLES CHOICE!
All the car owners had to vote for a car other than their own and damned if I didn't get the prize!
Having won quite a few trophies since we started showing the car and even getting a few "best of show in class" in some large shows, I really treasure this "peoples choice" award because it means that Fieros are getting favorably noticed and are gaining popularity even around some VERY nice street rods and customs.


.....



Hey Randy,
Sorry to hear about the funk you have been in lately. Go take a look at the people's choice award again and think back to that day, and how proud you were to beat some very nice street rods and customs. That's a big deal!

I think you need to take it out for a nice cruise and turn some heads and maybe go to a few cruise nights. That should do the trick. Maybe hold off on any big projects for a while like installing the nose, you don't want to take it apart and lose interest even more. I vote, put some miles on it and get that fiero bug back. Then get that new nose mounted, that's going to look awesome!

Your car has been a big inspiration to us all. You do very nice work, and are innovative and creative. I know I've always enjoyed seeing your work.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #290, 04-17-2014 04:06 PM
     


on my way out the door, but funny this popped up as i just called and briefly talked to randy a couple days ago.

more later.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #291, 04-18-2014 05:05 PM
     
O.K. update,.....

I had an occasion to call randy last week on behalf of myself and another forum member in regards to some modifications he had done to his car that we were interested in.

Randy is now back working again and pretty much getting back on his feet after losing his longtime occupation a couple of years ago,

I think most people would go into a funk somewhat.

Randy also was having serious regrets about his engine choice. Wants more power. Very disenchanted with the current setup.

Give him some time, i think he will snap back when he is ready.


Jason88Notchie (jasonshaffstall@gmail.com) MSG #292, 05-12-2014 07:10 PM
      That is good to hear an update. Randy, give us an update please. You have been an inspiration to all of us.

pokeyfiero (pokey702910@gmail.com) MSG #293, 07-11-2015 08:04 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by randye:
SO!...I thank everyone for their concern and their prodding and wishes for me to regain interest and get back to the car again.
I'm trying the best I can and figure maybe a little more every day might get me going again back at the pace I once was at.

.....then there's that Fi355 nose STILL to be installed and cut & buffed......






fierogt28 MSG #294, 07-12-2015 03:34 AM