CHOP TOP # 15 !!!!!!!!!!
Topic started by: exoticse, Date: 10-16-2004 12:00 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000101.html


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #1, 10-16-2004 12:00 PM
      A sneak peak into chop top number 15 as it heads for Archie's shop.

13" Corvette Brakes niceeeeeeeeee !

Look for some big rims and tires on this puppy ! Oh yeah it's got a little something under the decklid too, to justify that new stopping power.

No unfortunatly it's not mine, and no it's not the fiero redux ,.............just posting for a friend.
This car is going to be wicked !


DL10 (dl10@frontier.com) MSG #2, 10-16-2004 03:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


No unfortunatly it's not mine, and no it's not the fiero redux ,.............just posting for a friend.
This car is going to be wicked !

That's to bad, I thought you were getting the car you always wanted. I'm sure your friend will love it.



jscott1 MSG #3, 10-16-2004 05:35 PM
      Oooh, Oooh Oooh, I know who's car it is!!

Actually he already announced in another thread that he was heading to Archie's. Ow well, my ole' choppy isn't the newest on the block anymore.



ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #4, 10-16-2004 07:53 PM
      who says u get 15, i guess the cats out of the bag, cuz i had to tell what size my roll bar needed to be




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #5, 10-16-2004 11:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

Oooh, Oooh Oooh, I know who's car it is!!

Actually he already announced in another thread that he was heading to Archie's.


Hehehe i must have missed that one Jscott. He really hasn't been all that secretive about it though.

Talk about your dream garages ! He is one lucky guy. WHich one do u drive ????????

Thanks DL10,..but i will make it happen trust me ! Might take me a year or so but i will have a chop top at Daytona 2006 !

Shue glue i think the 15 reference is for chops done by Archie. However Congrats to you for taking the job on yourself. Wish i had your skills.

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ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #6, 10-17-2004 04:16 AM
      i was just kidding about the 15 thing, just excited how well my cars coming along, to be honest. you do have my skills, im definetly a first timer, just did lots of measuring and put some elbow grease into it, but i cant wait to get the windows all in and the cabin sealed up then paint, new motor for spring oh i cant wait! but anyway for now ill be stuck in the garage.


justin


jscott1 MSG #7, 10-17-2004 06:20 PM
      Yeah I have Archie chop top number 14. There are at least a half dozen or so done by others. Not all are active on the forum, so it's hard to get an exact count.

Which one to drive is a good question. I don't know how the other guy decides but for me it's the one with the least issues. Right now I'm driving my T-top, which still gets a lot of looks. I had a guy follow me into the gas station asking a lot of questions about it. He didn't speak much english but I understood the "bueno" part of it.

Songman MSG #8, 10-17-2004 06:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Those wheels look awfully familiar! Even looks sorta the same color as Rie's car in that picture. I have to admit that I didn't realize this new one was a GT though. I thought it was a notchback.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #9, 10-17-2004 11:02 PM
     

Choptop owner 15 tells me Archie will be posting updates to this thread as work progresses so yipeeeeee !

jscott1 MSG #10, 10-18-2004 07:22 PM
      TTT

Archie, where are the updates???

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #11, 10-18-2004 10:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

TTT

Archie, where are the updates???

Well we have the car all stripped down and are going to start cutting in the morning.

I took several pictures but I left the disc with the pictures at the shop tonight.

So that means there will be twice as many pictures tomorrow night.

Archie

blakeinspace (blakeinspace@yahoo.com) MSG #12, 10-18-2004 11:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
So that means there will be twice as many pictures tomorrow night.

Archie

blake = (cries with anticipation... seethes with jealousy)


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #13, 10-19-2004 11:07 PM
      Here's the report for Monday.

We started out with a complete car & started taking it apart.

By lunch it was looking like this............

We had to spend the last few hours Monday working on other projects.

Archie

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #14, 10-19-2004 11:18 PM
      Today was a busy day on the Chop.

The first thing we did was to start cutting away......... Here Rob makes the 1st cuts.........

We spent the morning cutting and the afternoon welding

In a couple of hours tomorrow, we will finish up all of the welding & be ready to start the body mods.

Tune in tomorrow.

Archie

P.S. I did have about 10 more pictures from today but for some reason I can't get them off of the floppy.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #15, 10-20-2004 05:46 PM
      Hmmmm......? Guys with saw-alls always seem to be smiling while their cut'n up a car? Hehehehe.




jscott1 MSG #16, 10-20-2004 05:55 PM
      #15 is off to an excellent start. One of the few 88 Chop tops out there, and Cadillac powered. Hmmm, I like the sound of that. And the first Red fastback Chop top, (to stay red).

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #17, 10-20-2004 08:18 PM
      Well as predicted, we finished up all the welding today & Started fitting the rear clip.......

Archie

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #18, 10-20-2004 08:36 PM
      Notchback Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now bring on the aero nose, 13" wheels, 4-banger, & regular ground fx too. Hehehehehe. (owner plays Dr. Dre and then passes the chronic)

Yeah, Archie I get the joke.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-20-2004).]

jscott1 MSG #19, 10-20-2004 09:50 PM
     
Good thing Archie didn't play that joke on me, I'd have a heart attack.

This car will be FAR, FAR, FAR different than a stock notchback.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #20, 10-20-2004 10:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Yeah, Archie I get the joke.

Oppps, sorry posted the wrong picture.

But you know I had to get something different posted up. We've done so many of these on PFF & the proceedure doesn't change all that much that they all start looking like the last one. I hope I'm not boreing the PFF members.

Archie



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #21, 10-20-2004 10:19 PM
     

Has everybody figured out that madcurl is choptop #15's owner ?? hehehehe

I gaurantee some people still have not figured it out !

Will-Martin MSG #22, 10-21-2004 12:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Has everybody figured out that madcurl is choptop #15's owner ?? hehehehe

I gaurantee some people still have not figured it out !

OK, Now I am confused. I thought Curley was chopping that custom beast he has been working on for the past X months?

--Will



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #23, 10-21-2004 12:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Will-Martin:


OK, Now I am confused. I thought Curley was chopping that custom beast he has been working on for the past X months?

--Will

Like many of us, He has several Fieros. The only difference is that Curley is modifying all of them.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #24, 10-21-2004 01:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Will-Martin:


OK, Now I am confused. I thought Curley was chopping that custom beast he has been working on for the past X months?

--Will


He is,. stay tuned...hehehehe.

Gets a wee bit complicated, but all will become clear.

Three is a really nice number !

ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #25, 10-21-2004 02:08 AM
      so thats like 12gs+ into chop tops, i bet archie gives him a deal for the business and the advertisement, if theres one car that makes people want one its the silver car with lambo doors. i cant wait to see what happens to this one. Hey madcurl how old are you anyway, just curious i never know anything about anyone on here except they have sweet fieros. Anyway im 21 and a do it myselfer. i work on GM big blocks, really big blocks 20cyclinder train marine genereator motors.

justin

revin MSG #26, 10-21-2004 09:42 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Archie

Archie,
What arethe red and blue straps used for? I have tried to figure it out but nothing comes to mind on their purpose.



BlueGT MSG #27, 10-21-2004 10:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Hmmmm......? Guys with saw-alls always seem to be smiling while their cut'n up a car? Hehehehe.

I believe it's anticipation of seeing the foam insulation in the B-piller and the discussion about what that material is really made of.



KRMFiero (kyle@oceanstatetuning.com) MSG #28, 10-21-2004 12:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Has everybody figured out that madcurl is choptop #15's owner ?? hehehehe

I gaurantee some people still have not figured it out !


When i saw the northstar with a single exhaust being chopped it made me think of him


oh and Archie we could never get bored of choptop pictures


jscott1 MSG #29, 10-21-2004 12:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Will-Martin:
OK, Now I am confused. I thought Curley was chopping that custom beast he has been working on for the past X months?

--Will


Only Curley knows for sure, but I think his plan is that the 88 go to the Chop Shop first and become the Redux.

Yeah Curley only likes Chopped Fieros, so he wants them all chopped. I couldn't agree more, except I need Archie to start chopping T-tops then I might bring him some more business.


roys88fiero (musclemachinegt@aol.com) MSG #30, 10-21-2004 01:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
(owner plays Dr. Dre and then passes the chronic)
Yeah, Archie I get the joke.

RFLMAO!!!!!!!!!................. I listen to Dr. Dre



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #31, 10-21-2004 01:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

I hope I'm not boreing the PFF members.

Boreing? I think most of us look forward to anything that is comming out of the shop and "we" get mad when were not updated. We even pick-a-part things in the background, inquires, and so forth. Yes, not many of us get to work-at a job which we truely like.

So your shop and other(s) are the common guys, "ESPN/Discovery" channel for Fiero junkie's.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-21-2004).]

ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #32, 10-21-2004 05:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Boreing? I think most of us look forward to anything that is comming out of the shop and "we" get mad when were not updated. We even pick-a-part things in the background, inquires, and so forth. Yes, not many of us get to work-at a job which we truely like.

So your shop and other(s) are the common guys, "ESPN/Discovery" channel for Fiero junkie's.

ditto

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #33, 10-21-2004 05:31 PM
      Hmmmm.....with all of those home-made chops today, I'll bet that mock-up rear window board would be worth a lot of money if it landed in the wrong hands?

Archie, you better lock-it in the vault when finished, hehehehe.


All jokes aside, I talked to Jerry at XS Custom. He said it would take 3 weeks to make the Fiero VDC kit. Franks's wife VDC Fiero has been fixed with a new door too. There was some issue with the door.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #34, 10-21-2004 08:19 PM
      A question for Archie.


How many choptops are 88's?


jscott1 MSG #35, 10-21-2004 09:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
How many choptops are 88's?

# 14 for one

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #36, 10-21-2004 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

A question for Archie.


How many choptops are 88's?

Where is that thread you had going that describes each of the 14 cars & I can look thru that and give you an answer.

Archie

PontiacJ8 (pontiacj8@hotmail.com) MSG #37, 10-22-2004 07:35 PM
      bump

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #38, 10-22-2004 09:24 PM
      Curley, if you see this tonight..... give me a call tomorrow about the SEMA thing, I have you registered.

Curley Taylor
V-8 Archie
Barrington, IL

Builder/Fabricator


timwdegner MSG #39, 10-22-2004 09:47 PM
      Archie! There have been no new pics for 47.5 hours!!! Please, must have illustrated updates!

jscott1 MSG #40, 10-22-2004 09:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Where is that thread you had going that describes each of the 14 cars & I can look thru that and give you an answer.

Archie


This one has the pictures:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/044505.html

Here is the thread where Archie broke down the 14 chop tops that he had done...mine was the mysterious #14 as I hadn't announced it yet.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043372-2.html

Edit - that time I spent with MinnGreen at Wheatstock really paid off, he told me his secret to this search engine

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #41, 10-22-2004 10:54 PM
      The sail panels are reattached and glassed.

The roof panel is also modified and glassed.

Both panels are then removed and 100% glassed from the backside.

Archie

BTW, I own page 2

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 10-22-2004).]

jscott1 MSG #42, 10-22-2004 11:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Archie

BTW, I own page 2

As it should be... I thought this was my car for a second. Just wishful thinking on my part.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #43, 10-22-2004 11:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


As it should be... I thought this was my car for a second. Just wishful thinking on my part.

HaHa yeah, it looks a lot like your car did.

This car........today...

Your car at this stage of construction..........

Kinda makes you look twice.

Maybe Curley is trying to copy your car.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 10-22-2004).]

jscott1 MSG #44, 10-23-2004 12:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
This car........today...

Your car at this stage of construction..........

Maybe Curley is trying to copy your car.

Archie

Ha Ha, Thanks for the comparison...I knew it wasn't just my imagination. They look like they were separated at birth...

But when Curley is done that car will look nothing like mine. It will be completely unique.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #45, 10-23-2004 01:15 AM
     

Archie,

I am thinking about buying a car that has an aftermarket sunroof, that is slightly smaller than the stock fiero sunroof.

Would that pose any problems as far as a chop ? If i wanted would you also be able to convert it to a full hardtop,..no sunroof ??

Sorry to deviate from the threadd.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #46, 10-23-2004 01:22 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Archie,

I am thinking about buying a car that has an aftermarket sunroof, that is slightly smaller than the stock fiero sunroof.

Would that pose any problems as far as a chop ? If i wanted would you also be able to convert it to a full hardtop,..no sunroof ??

Sorry to deviate from the threadd.

The small Sunroof wouldn't be a problem except that it's .... ah ......... well......... SMALL.

If we have a roof panel to use, we can convert it to a solid roof.

Archie

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #47, 10-24-2004 06:44 PM
     
So are we finished yet ???

I think this was the fastest chop i have seen !

Think Archie has this down to a science ?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #48, 10-24-2004 07:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


So are we finished yet ???

I think this was the fastest chop i have seen !

Think Archie has this down to a science ?

HaHa, no we're not finished yet, still have a lot to do, just taking the weekend off.

Archie

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #49, 10-26-2004 07:15 PM
      Anything new to post?

Heheheheh.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #50, 10-26-2004 08:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Anything new to post?

Heheheheh.

Well we got a lot done in the last 2 days but I forgot to bring the pictures home with me tonight.

We've already got the back window installed & tomorrow they come over to put in the windshield, so there will be a lot to report tomorrow.

Archie

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #51, 10-27-2004 08:51 PM
     

hehehe. Too many WMD threads. Lets see some pics to calm my nerves. Darn it! I thought I would own pg 3. But I did achive 2000 post's. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-27-2004).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #52, 10-27-2004 10:56 PM
      This week

After we have fitted the front roof section & rear clip, we take them off and glass them from the back side.

While the rear clip is off we had the glass guy install the new rear window.

Then we can put the body back on & start glassing, filling & sanding.

After sanding & primer in a couple places.....



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #53, 10-27-2004 11:05 PM
      Starting to fit the rocker panels......

Sanding & filling........

We had the new windshield installed this morning, but by the end of the day it was dusty too......

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #54, 10-28-2004 05:54 PM
     
Looking good as always.

Question(s):
Hey Archie, did you find any spare parts that we were talking about?
What is the height from the bottom of the rear window to the top of it? (not from the bottom glass to to the rear clip).
What is the distant from the rear window to the trunk?
Will I have a hard time removing the rear clip for modifications?
I notice that you'd used a brace on the sail panel area. Is this a "improvment" vs the old way?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-28-2004).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #55, 10-28-2004 09:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Question(s):
Hey Archie, did you find any spare parts that we were talking about?

You need to call me on that, We don't have a rear clip & I don't recall what else we were looking for.


 
quote

What is the height from the bottom of the rear window to the top of it? (not from the bottom glass to to the rear clip).

Dunno, I'll have to measure that. Do you want the window glass or the opening the window goes in?

 
quote

What is the distant from the rear window to the trunk?

Donno what you want there, it's in the same place as the window used to be located.

 
quote

Will I have a hard time removing the rear clip for modifications?

You'll have to remove the 1/4 windows, then it'll come off like stock (see the answer to the next question).


 
quote

I notice that you'd used a brace on the sail panel area. Is this a "improvment" vs the old way?

Been using that on the last 4 or 5 cars at least. It keeps the rear clip from distorting while we are handling it.

This is a pic from Chop Top #13 While we were glassing it from the inside.......

Don't forget to call me on Tuesday when you start getting within an hour or 2 of LV.

Archie




ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #56, 10-29-2004 01:48 AM
      hey arch? how do u get the back window in wihtout taking the clip off? i had to do it first well actually take the clip back off to get it in there... Maybe im wrong but u make it removable right? seems like mine cant come back out cuz it wouldnt fit , well that and its sealed back in.

justin

jscott1 MSG #57, 10-29-2004 07:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

While the rear clip is off we had the glass guy install the new rear window.

Then we can put the body back on & start glassing, filling & sanding.

Archie does remove the clip to install the rear window

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #58, 10-29-2004 07:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

This is a pic from Chop Top #13 While we were glassing it from the inside.......


Interesting?



GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #59, 10-29-2004 09:15 PM
      Hey Archie do you do anything with the windshield wipers since the windshield is angled lower?

Jim88GT (choptop88@verizon.net) MSG #60, 10-29-2004 09:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

This is a pic from Chop Top #13 While we were glassing it from the inside.......

Archie


Hey Archie, I thought I was lucky #13?

Jim


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #61, 10-30-2004 07:45 PM
      Well this will be the last update for a week.

Progress will continue on the several Fieros we have in process.

I'll be in Las Vegas for this next week attending the SEMA show & playing cards.

As of this weekend almost all of the body work is done. New Dew Wipes are in and both windows installed. The 1/4 windows are about half done. And we still have to put the interior back together.

It should be pretty well wrapped up by the time I return next Sunday.

Archie

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #62, 10-30-2004 08:25 PM
      It's De Javu all over again. Hehehehe. I guess Christmas is comming early this year. Can't wait to pick it up in 10 days!

Hey Archie, next year you should get a booth at SEMA 2005? You need to show off some of your creations. No need to transport #11 & 15 to Caleefornia either.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-30-2004).]

jscott1 MSG #63, 10-30-2004 09:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Archie

The first red fastback chop top is really going to be nice... Almost the twin of mine...I wish

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #64, 11-01-2004 12:10 AM
      Sorry. Just testing ideas. Hehehehe.


Sharkman MSG #65, 11-01-2004 06:21 AM
      Nice

Phantom-Fiero MSG #66, 11-01-2004 11:45 AM
      Its nice how they split the trunk from the engine compartment.

PontiacJ8 (pontiacj8@hotmail.com) MSG #67, 11-02-2004 09:47 PM
      bump...

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #68, 11-03-2004 07:14 PM
     


Uh ohhhhhh curly's at it again.

This guy comes up with a new idea a day !

If he can make it work,..look out !


jscott1 MSG #69, 11-03-2004 09:06 PM
      It looks like apart from the Celica lights that the Redux will be a recreation of the 1990 prototype.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #70, 11-04-2004 12:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

It looks like apart from the Celica lights that the Redux will be a recreation of the 1990 prototype.


Yes. The concept is my idea for this one. The Redux is alright, but this looks better if it can be made? I'm currently looking at various dealership for a rear window hatch. So far, the 1991 Corvette rear hatch seems to be the closest candidate. Followed by the NSX rear window.

Otherwise it's back to the drawing board using a import rear hatchback.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #71, 11-08-2004 12:55 PM
      Hmmmmm.....two more days left!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #72, 11-08-2004 10:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Hmmmmm.....two more days left!

It's all done here. I'll have to remember to take my camera to the shop tomorrow to take some pics.

Maybe I should wait to post pictures until after you've left Wednesday AM, then I can post pictures of the car, then pics of you picking up the car etc. ............ I could get several days worth of pics posted before you see any of them.

Archie



bryson MSG #73, 11-08-2004 10:36 PM
      I'm unbelievably jealous -- I think summer I am going to focus on bodywork (assuming I can finish re-rebuilding the engine by then :P), and I would LOVE to have the money for a chop, but I don't know if it will happen. Anyway, just wanted to let you know how awesome it looks! Good luck!
--Bryson

BTW -- is that the special "chop stall" or something? I just noticed both cars were in the exact same place



jscott1 MSG #74, 11-08-2004 10:37 PM
      I'm jealous...I wanna 'nother one

If only I had anymore fastbacks for you to chop

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #75, 11-09-2004 06:42 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by bryson:

BTW -- is that the special "chop stall" or something? I just noticed both cars were in the exact same place

I think it could be, I have pictures of a few other chops that were taken in the same spot.

Archie

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #76, 11-09-2004 01:42 PM
      Hmmmmm.....18 hours left! Then the Pontiac "Excitement" begins!

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #77, 11-09-2004 09:06 PM
     



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #78, 11-10-2004 10:52 PM
      Curley goes Choppin'

Curley is now on his way home & George R. is dropping off Chop #16 Tomorrow morning.

Archie

jscott1 MSG #79, 11-11-2004 12:23 AM
      It looks like Curley is in for some fun times in the world's newest chop top.

Including #16 it seems that Chop Tops are more popular than ever.

Archie, you better prepare for a record number next year!!



Rickady88GT (rjkmfam@sbcglobal.net) MSG #80, 11-11-2004 12:24 AM
      Have a good drive home Curley!!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #81, 11-11-2004 06:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rickady88GT:

Have a good drive home Curley!!

Just about half-way home. I'm running a little late. I'm at D1S (OKC) getting some items done to #15 before I head-out west.

This chop is better with a sun roof vs. without IMO.



Sharkman MSG #82, 11-12-2004 03:11 AM
      Hi curly.

looking good. I love my sunroof as well. Gives more space inside the car and you can look up at all other cars that you pass and see the faces... Whats that!!!!

Regards SHARKMAN

Rickady88GT (rjkmfam@sbcglobal.net) MSG #83, 11-12-2004 03:30 AM
      Does that mean you wont be at the Coast Run?
Look forward to seeing your new car soon


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #84, 11-13-2004 11:04 AM
     


Nearing the stretch run ! Mad man is in New mexico.

Darn that car looks sweet !

Fiero~Spataro (alexspataro@rogers.com) MSG #85, 11-13-2004 05:22 PM
      i say lose the rocker panels and the spoiler, paint it orange and it would look craaazzzyyyyy



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #86, 11-16-2004 01:21 AM
     


Number 15 now minus the wing !

Only the begining !


Sharkman MSG #87, 11-16-2004 03:10 AM
      Thats right. LOSE THE WING.


rmphoto MSG #88, 11-16-2004 04:10 AM
      oh my god. leave the wing off.

that looks soooo damn good.. please.. leave it off..

Will-Martin MSG #89, 11-16-2004 04:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Thats right. LOSE THE WING.

Man that is Sexy Beautiful.

That is the pic I needed to remotivate me.

Thanks!



Sharkman MSG #90, 11-16-2004 05:57 AM
      Here are some more motivation for you Will-Martin, dont want too take this thread from Madcurl
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/046606.html

regards SHARKMAN

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #91, 11-16-2004 01:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rickady88GT:

Does that mean you wont be at the Coast Run?
Look forward to seeing your new car soon

Sorry Rick. Due to the snow storm, I got held-up 15 miles outside Armarrillo TX, Gallup NM, and Flagstaff, NV. I was partly ahead of it....the storm was chasing me.

Wingless? Yes! Beside, with a choptop you can't see out the rear view mirror. The wing is in the way unless you raise it by 3"

Thanks Exoticse for posting pics.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-16-2004).]

Dowdian MSG #92, 11-16-2004 03:36 PM
     
 
quote
Beside, with a choptop you can't see out the rear view mirror.

hmmmm. I had never though of that. I gotta think...I'll come up with something.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #93, 11-16-2004 03:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dowdian:


hmmmm. I had never though of that. I gotta think...I'll come up with something.

Yes, under the OEM seat location, as you know the wing isn't so annoying or 100% in you way but! With a chop the seat is dropped by 2" and the front window where the rear view mirror is located.....puts the wing straight in the way. Yes, you can see above the wing but the B-piller is dropped by 3" making your area of vision very tight. It's hard trying to see a Cop in your rear.

EDIT: Also I removed the stock third brake light. It too is or was in the way. I plan on using a after-market third brake lights.

Raised wing examples:

This images is larger than 100K. Click to view.

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The Black Widow (mlahood@min.midco.net) MSG #94, 11-16-2004 07:05 PM
      DAMN that car is HOT!!!!!!
-Matt


Master Tuner Akimoto MSG #95, 11-16-2004 07:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


EDIT: Also I removed the stock third brake light. It too is or was in the way. I plan on using a after-market third brake light

Late model Ford Taurus 2002-2004


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #96, 11-18-2004 11:09 AM
     

Curly haave you put the rubber on the new rims yet ?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #97, 11-18-2004 01:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Curly haave you put the rubber on the new rims yet ?

No. Rubbers are in the garage awaiting the chop. I was at a local Chevy dealership looking at a rear third window. I think it will work according to drawing? 36" long by 58" wide and 10" height. Chop is 9 1/2" high, 58" wide, but 26" long.

Example:

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-18-2004).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #98, 11-18-2004 07:09 PM
      New Fiero Store floor mats are beautiful! I highly recommend them over stock floor mats to match ACC blk carpet. Even the Fiero crest logo looks great! Got a K&N so that the N* can breath easier, hehehehe.

Since I regularly log-in I got a mouse pad too w/key ring.

Next: I'm call'n Mr. Mikes!

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-18-2004).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #99, 11-19-2004 12:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

New Fiero Store floor mats are beautiful! I highly recommend them over stock floor mats to match ACC blk carpet. Even the Fiero crest logo looks great! Got a K&N so that the N* can breath easier, hehehehe.

Since I regularly log-in I got a mouse pad too w/key ring.

Next: I'm call'n Mr. Mikes!


Madcurl getting #15 uniformed

New Floor mats

Da mouse pad

K & N Filter, key ring, etc.




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #100, 11-27-2004 09:47 AM
     


Curly,

Any pics of #11 and #15 together yet ??

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #101, 11-27-2004 10:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Curly,

Any pics of #11 and #15 together yet ??

Nope. I was too busy changing the oil and fuel filter on #15. However, it did look strange with both cars being about 42" high side-by-side. I stopped off at Trends to look at the Redux. Man that sucker is blotted and monsterous looking. IMO it doesn't even look like a Fiero anymore comparred to the others.

I was going to take a pic of it but the car was in the corner and behind another car.

Anyway, a comparrison shots:


[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-27-2004).]

rmphoto MSG #102, 11-27-2004 11:43 PM
      curly what size are the rims on #15? 18?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #103, 11-27-2004 11:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by rmphoto:

curly what size are the rims on #15? 18?


In the previous pic both #11 and #15 have the same rims. Borbet 17x7.5 Some how these wheels are used for choptop projects only.

The Redux (primered one) has 19x7.5 rim (rear) on 245/35/19 Toyo and the front is stock but the 19x7.5 on 235/35/19 wasn't on the car during the pic.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-27-2004).]

sqoach (fiero_adam@yahoo.com) MSG #104, 11-28-2004 12:34 AM
      So let me get this straight. You have the silver chop-top, this red chop-top, and the Redux???? Damn, how much money do you have?

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #105, 11-28-2004 02:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by sqoach:

So let me get this straight. You have the silver chop-top, this red chop-top, and the Redux???? Damn, how much money do you have?

And the light goes on !! Hehehehe.

Sqoach i can almost see your face as you came to the realization ! Very funny. I know a lot of forum members have still not put it all together and realized he owns all three.

No way the madman wants to discuss his salary but it is pretty obvious that he does well for himself, best to just leave it at that.

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slickrick2000 (rick@hessclan.com) MSG #106, 11-28-2004 03:28 AM
      I love the looks of the chop tops! All those cars look great. I am hoping I can get some money saved to get mine done in the future.

I have a couple questions though.

How many inches are usually chopped off?

Does the framework that runs up the side of the windshield stay at the same angle, or does it end up leaning back towards the rear? Is the same windshield able to be used?

And lastly, when you actually do the chop, does the frame need to be temporarly reinforced to keep it from twisting, or does this not happen when it's cut apart?

Inquiring MIND wants to know... Thanks

[This message has been edited by slickrick2000 (edited 11-28-2004).]

sqoach (fiero_adam@yahoo.com) MSG #107, 11-28-2004 12:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


No way the madman wants to discuss his salary but it is pretty obvious that he does well for himself, best to just leave it at that.

You're right. Sorry, shouldn't have said that. I guess I'm just jealous.

slickrick2000 (rick@hessclan.com) MSG #108, 11-30-2004 12:06 AM
      OK I am thinking I may try doing my own choptop mod. The way my family eats up money, I'll never have it if I don't do it myself.

Anyone have the answers for my questions two posts up?

ChopTop (steeljeep@aim.com) MSG #109, 11-30-2004 09:12 AM
      The vast majority of chopped Fiero's were/are performed by Archies shop. A couple of folks have done it themselves, but Im not aware of anyone sharing or documenting their efforts. Archie performed mine and its three inches, the original windshield is used and layed back, which means the A-pillars are cut at some point, layed back, and rewelded. The B-pillar is cut at an angle, then rewelded back together. The rear window and side windows are replaced with a lexan type material. I have no idea if the car is reinforced during the chopping process. However a couple of members have made braces when they have installed t-tops into their cars, so bracing may be part of the procedure.
Its quite a bit of work, if you can afford it you should really think about having Archie do it for you. Theyve done enough by now that they have it down to a science. Good luck.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #110, 11-30-2004 12:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by slickrick2000:

OK I am thinking I may try doing my own choptop mod. The way my family eats up money, I'll never have it if I don't do it myself.

Anyone have the answers for my questions two posts up?

Home brewed choptop? I only know of (1) person who has started and finished (100%) a choptop besides Archie........Orivlle. There is two other person(s) a yellow and a totally extreme chopped red notch back. I don't know the details as to: if the windows works or such?

The easy part is cutting it........finishing it is a totally different story. Part(s) have to be fab'd and are expensive.

Construction: The areas are reinforced to OEM according to Archie. He does this to prevent a law suits in the future. Interior pieces are 100% custom made. Rear window is OEM glass. Although the front glass can be used in the process, most choose to replace it with a new glass.



slickrick2000 (rick@hessclan.com) MSG #111, 11-30-2004 03:21 PM
      Naw...I can't afford it at the moment, or forseeable future. 3 kids, stay at home wife, and house payments will be forcing me to do all my own work. A chop is a luxury not a neccesity, and 4 grand is way to much towards a luxury at the moment.

Besides, I have the skills and experience in the metal work, some with fiberglass, and lotsa time and patience. The one thing I lack is the knowledge and specifics (and a couple neccesary tools...hehe). But hopefully I can get that from you guys. The knowledge and specifics that is...hehe.

Before I get started with anything I need to get the parts car outta my garage. Hummm...I may cut that one up for practice when I get it all stripped down. The frame has no rust at all, but it's still in the guys name that gave me the car 3 yrs ago.

I'll be sure to let ya know if I undertake this project.

EDIT: thanks for the input...anything else you guys have to say, I'm open to listen to.

[This message has been edited by slickrick2000 (edited 11-30-2004).]

Sharkman MSG #112, 12-01-2004 06:37 AM
      Mine are made by a guy in Sweden. He did not have a workshop but he did it. The interior is a modified original. Using a hot air gun to soft the panels and reform them. And you need too cut the panels a bit. I have the rear speakers at the same place as original. My car is choped about 2.5" and that works just fine.
But here in Sweden there are no Archie to get the job done...
I am thinking of doing one more choptop in about 2 years time. Have som documentation from the guy that did mine.

/ SHARKMAN



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #113, 12-06-2004 11:21 PM
      anybody who says the chop tops don't make the fiero look like a true exotic better put down the chronic and take a look at this comparison !


Remove the wing, slap on some HREs, throw in some aussie trim modifications,......

And wow you have one hot american exotic !!

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jscott1 MSG #114, 12-07-2004 02:15 AM
      It sure would be nice to see a picture of the Redux that didn't look like a grainy picture of Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster

Can someone with a megapixel please take a decent shot so we can see what it looks like?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #115, 12-07-2004 09:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

It sure would be nice to see a picture of the Redux that didn't look like a grainy picture of Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster

Can someone with a megapixel please take a decent shot so we can see what it looks like?

Hehehe i think that is part of the attraction of the Redux,...almost like it is just a myth or something !

At any rate I think the Redux is on hold while #15 gets done in time for Daytona.

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #116, 12-08-2004 09:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Hehehe i think that is part of the attraction of the Redux,...almost like it is just a myth or something !

People still think that about mine...lol



jscott1 MSG #117, 12-08-2004 01:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:


People still think that about mine...lol

I don't know Steve, at this point we haven't even seen a grainy mythical picture of yours...

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #118, 12-08-2004 01:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


I don't know Steve, at this point we haven't even seen a grainy mythical picture of yours...


YOU not seeing it is who's fault..?? Well, I guess it is both of ours that you did'nt get to see it.... I broke down and was late and you did'nt get back to the hotel for leaving for Houston early... I did get to see the F-bird interior though.... Can't wait until you get the chop finished!

I hope and plan and think I can actually finish by next rukus.... kevin has already been calling me to be ready for Austin 2005!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #119, 12-09-2004 12:24 AM
     

Fresh pics for you to digest !

Madcurl gassing up:

Rolling on new rims ! The front:

The Rear:

Side and angle shots

Last but not least, the powerplantt



Fastback 86 MSG #120, 12-09-2004 12:36 AM
      Dang those is some big rims. Looks darn good though!

Sharkman MSG #121, 12-09-2004 03:08 AM
      Looking real good.
Any information about the trunk oil/gas shock. I need something too avoid my trunk too
fly up too fast without the GT wing on. What are the size of those rims? 19"

I am trying too get a sponsor for mine.
Looking at Antera 309, 19" and they are $$$ in Sweden

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ChopTop (steeljeep@aim.com) MSG #122, 12-09-2004 07:09 AM
      MC, can't help but notice how far the wheels stick out (both front and rear), reminds of that rollerskate phad that was going on a couple years ago. Do you plan to flare your fenders out to cover the wheels, or did you just throw those on there for a kick?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #123, 12-09-2004 09:58 AM
      Choptop

The wheels were originally meant for the much beefier Fiero Redux, which has a flared front and rear.

I think he is giving these a run on #15 to see if they will work on it, or if he will have to go with something else.

You knoooooow Curly is not going bone stock with the body so there will definatly be some body modifications whichever wheels he decides to go with.

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NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #124, 12-09-2004 06:35 PM
      I thought those wheels looked famiular...lol



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #125, 12-10-2004 02:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Looking real good.
Any information about the trunk oil/gas shock. I need something too avoid my trunk too
fly up too fast without the GT wing on. What are the size of those rims? 19"

I am trying too get a sponsor for mine.
Looking at Antera 309, 19" and they are $$$ in Sweden

They are 19's front and 20's rear.

DUB 101:
I was testing the 88 for clearance issues prior to body modifications. As Songman and I concluded, the 255/30/19 did fit w/o any rubbing in both directions. A old archive thread demonstrated it on Songman's 88 that the 255's cleared the rear's but I wasn't for sure about the fronts. Due to the weather, I had no choice but to drive it in the rain! PZeros are not a all-out rain tire vs. the Toyos on #11.

Power sterring issues? None. Using the 255's? Much better vs. 215's.

As was stated by Exoticse, #15 will be beefier and lower in the front.

jscott1 MSG #126, 12-10-2004 03:07 PM
      I just filled up Premium Unleaded 93 Octane for $1.859 I suppose it pays to live near the refineries



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #127, 12-13-2004 12:05 AM
      And thats Bakersfield's prices! In the Bay Area it's much higher. Premium is $2.79 in certain places. In #15 i have no choice but to use premium fuel. The 300 N* somehow likes the higher octane. Outside CA, I can use mid-grade w/o any problems. I think it has something to do with the additives in CA fuels?

While going to the SEMA show, I seen premium around $3.09!

Jim88GT (choptop88@verizon.net) MSG #128, 12-13-2004 06:16 PM
      Curly,
We have a price war going on here $1.41 for regular!

Jim

KissMySSFiero (ssfiero@aol.com) MSG #129, 12-13-2004 10:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jim88GT:

Curly,
We have a price war going on here $1.41 for regular!

Jim

Sell it on Ebay@!!!!!

Nice car by the way. With the 300hp N* can you have duel exhaust tips?

I just looked back and noticed only one tip. Is there a reason you can't have it, even though the original car the engine was from had duel tips? CA nazi's can kiss my SS.

[This message has been edited by KissMySSFiero (edited 12-13-2004).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #130, 12-18-2004 10:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by KissMySSFiero:


Sell it on Ebay@!!!!!

Nice car by the way. With the 300hp N* can you have duel exhaust tips?

I just looked back and noticed only one tip. Is there a reason you can't have it, even though the original car the engine was from had duel tips? CA nazi's can kiss my SS.

Thanks. Your correct. It's because the N* only comes with a single cat and not two. D1S uses a two cat system for better flow and for a uniform look. Although two may be better than one, CA Reps allow only one. For CA owners, D1S lets their customers use a single cat until it passes and then they send it back or to the next guy up for tags.



NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #131, 12-18-2004 11:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Thanks. Your correct. It's because the N* only comes with a single cat and not two. D1S uses a two cat system for better flow and for a uniform look. Although two may be better than one, CA Reps allow only one. For CA owners, D1S lets their customers use a single cat until it passes and then they send it back or to the next guy up for tags.


Damn Commies... Hows it going MadMan...??



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #132, 01-10-2005 02:00 AM
     

It has begun.

Sizzling !

THis is going to be special !

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #133, 01-10-2005 03:32 AM
      {just broke jaw when it hit my knees....}

Man, I can't wait until this is done... and you are right.. It is going to be special, very special!!

Me is jealous...



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #134, 01-23-2005 12:22 PM
     

New Bumper on.



Rickady88GT (rjkmfam@sbcglobal.net) MSG #135, 01-23-2005 01:05 PM
      Thanks for the ride Curly, I had a blast
That car looks great and will be another head turner. I could not get over the rear end view (following the car) because the rear wheels are SSSSOOOOOOOO wide It has lots of cool mods. I am looking forward to seeing it again.



NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #136, 01-23-2005 01:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

New Bumper on.

Hard to tell from that angle... Is that just a 'stock' rear bumper..??

I am still jealous...



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #137, 01-23-2005 10:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:


Hard to tell from that angle... Is that just a 'stock' rear bumper..??

I am still jealous...


It might appear to be stock at first glance but if u look closer u will see that it has been flared out to compensate for the massive 305's in the back.

The stock bumper measurement is 4" at this location, madcurl had his extended out to 8 "





exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #138, 02-01-2005 07:49 PM
      Look what the madman has got his hands on now !

The newest Vette lamps !

And you thought the celica lamps on the redux were hot .

Can't forget the side lights.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #139, 02-03-2005 12:08 AM
      The pace is heating up as the clock ticks down toward Daytona so madcurl has rolled up his sleeves and
started slinging glass in the race to get his car ready !

Madcurl is using fiero fender panels, some ausie door rocker trim, and a soon to be modified Archie IRM style rocker to create a side vent molding (similair to the one seen on Alex's plazma car, but different):

A simple fiero fender panel added to the rear provides a much needed beefier wide body effect to offset the large wheels and compliment the new side vent treatment:

Once everything is glassed into place and smoothed over this will be one simple super mod !

Don't know about you but i can't wait to see this car at Daytona !

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85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #140, 02-03-2005 12:32 AM
      Is Madcurl going to have this car in Daytona next month ?
I have to say that car is turning out great.
Just last week I was at at Chevy dealership and was looking at a Corvette and I was thinking " those light would look good on a Fiero.... now I can't wait to see them on his car.


Rickady88GT (rjkmfam@sbcglobal.net) MSG #141, 02-03-2005 01:02 AM
      Man That Looks Like Fun


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #142, 02-03-2005 01:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Is Madcurl going to have this car in Daytona next month ?
I have to say that car is turning out great.
Just last week I was at at Chevy dealership and was looking at a Corvette and I was thinking " those light would look good on a Fiero.... now I can't wait to see them on his car.

Yes the car will be at Daytona,...it won't be finished or painted, but it will be there. Even half done this car will be a show stopper.

Wolfhound (coyadkins@charter.net) MSG #143, 02-03-2005 08:10 AM
      Use of the front fender is ingenious. That has so much potential.

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #144, 02-03-2005 01:48 PM
      I Love this thread

Sharkman MSG #145, 02-04-2005 08:23 AM
      Using the front fenders are something that I never had in mind. But WOW.
Cant wait too see that glased in place. (have 2 fenders in the garage...)

Plus for that ide




NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #146, 02-04-2005 08:31 AM
     

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #147, 02-04-2005 06:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Wolfhound:

Use of the front fender is ingenious. That has so much potential.

Madcurl has sooooooo many good ideas rolling around in his head you would not believe it.

This guy has incredible vision.

Just wait till you see some of his other upcoming stuff. It gets even better.

slickrick2000 (rick@hessclan.com) MSG #148, 02-04-2005 11:18 PM
      So after you glass that on the rear fender, do you go back and cut out any excess underneath? If not doesn't it make it quite a bit heavier?

Rick

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #149, 02-05-2005 11:21 AM
     

Getting things smoothed in:



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #150, 02-06-2005 02:01 PM
     

Some new interior hardware

More pics from the body shop

Hard to tell from this view but the angle of the IRMs may have been changed ?



NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #151, 02-06-2005 02:09 PM
      This is gonna be better then the "Redux"...



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #152, 02-06-2005 11:35 PM
     

Ok here are some better angles of the modified Archie IRM rockers:




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #153, 02-07-2005 12:43 PM
      Update: Ausie's door rockers.

We first started with the doors due to them next to the IRM rockers following the design that I had drawn from the gun metal choptop pic. I had to reshape the mold a little and make a cut for the door handles. The door handles were shaved down a little by 3/4" The key hole is still funtional. We will use a rubber gromett inside the hole. I'm not really a fan of pop-doors due to issues that I've seen.

Next, we moved onto the IRM. We moved or flared out part of the lower portion were the 305's where sticking out. On my next visit, I'll start on the driver's side and repeat the process followed by the rear bumper. Doug, at Fiero Warehouse shipped the front spoiler so it should be at the shop by now. If I have time, I'll have the front bumper flared out like the Redux but this time it will be different.

On another note: I may be off Pennock's due to Dale closing his web site. His site is going off-line today so this may be my last post. If you have any questions regarding this thread or others, I won't be able to answer them, sorry.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #154, 02-07-2005 12:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by slickrick2000:

So after you glass that on the rear fender, do you go back and cut out any excess underneath? If not doesn't it make it quite a bit heavier?

Rick

There is some weight gain once the flaring is added even though most of the excess fiberglass is removed. All-n-all there was maybe 3" of flaring near the middle downward. The same would be said of the Ausie door rocker. Although I did loose some weight with removing the old steeering wheel and getting the MOMO. Man that stock sterring wheel is heavy. I even have more room for my fat gut now, hehehehe.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-07-2005).]

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #155, 02-07-2005 08:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


I even have more room for my fat gut now, hehehehe.

Got Pic's..??

Looking GREAT!! How are you gonna finish off the rear 'fenders' at the rear of the door..??

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #156, 02-08-2005 07:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:


Got Pic's..??

Looking GREAT!! How are you gonna finish off the rear 'fenders' at the rear of the door..??

Stay tuned. I'll be back on the 16th. That's win the fun starts all over again.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #157, 02-11-2005 09:32 PM
     


Cardboard mockup of proposed vent addition to rear bumper:



slickrick2000 (rick@hessclan.com) MSG #158, 02-11-2005 09:51 PM
      Wow, lotsa pretty radical body changes. I love it!

Can't wait to see more. Looks great.

ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #159, 02-11-2005 11:58 PM
      i cant wait to see more either, i dont think anything could have been done better!

justin

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #160, 02-16-2005 09:03 AM
     

Madcurl back at it again preparing for Daytona

First some new arrivals:

Can you say VDC ? Lambo doors here we come !

Meanwhile work continuing on modding up and resphaping the Archie IRM rocker on the other side of the car. Here you can see the vent cut back and being prepped to be flared out wider to hug those huge 20's ! :

A glimpse at the inside:

Yet another view:

Madcurl's philosphy don't just buy it and bolt it on, tweek it to your own unique style !

Taking a brief break to visit Orville's field of dreams:

Hmmmmm now what does Curly have in mind for that old rear clip ?? Hehehehe.

Aside from the vette lamps this may be the best part yet ! Stay tuned !!




Sharkman MSG #161, 02-16-2005 01:23 PM
      Soo the VDC are ready too buy and bolt on from XS customs?

(First on page 4 and 5!)




slickrick2000 (rick@hessclan.com) MSG #162, 02-17-2005 11:30 AM
      Speaking of VDC kits, I just finished designing my set, and am going to start figuring out the best way to have them made.

After a set has been made, I'll test them out to see if anything I designed needs to be beefed up. Since I have never seen a hinge in person, I had very few options on how to scale the parts. Basically used common sense and the constraints of space, but until I actually get one built, I won't be able to fine tune things.

When I get these done, they will be completely bolt on ready for the Fiero. And I may decide to sell a few if it's not too difficult or expensive to reproduce. I have seen whats out there now, and it sure seems to me that they sell these at extremely high costs that must be attributed to R & D, supply, and the fact it's something that people will just pay that much for.

If I do decide to sell a few, they won't be as expensive as the ones I have seen, and if something changes that makes them cost that much, then I'll be sure to let you guys know why. And I probably won't sell them.

Sorry to change the subjet......Lets see some more pics of the mods that are underway.

GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #163, 02-17-2005 02:38 PM
      That car look's awesome Madcurl.In your spare time could you take some more pictures of you hinges so I can get an idea on where to start drilling and mounting my VDC universal hinges. Thanks

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #164, 02-17-2005 03:25 PM
      ..."popcorn.gif".....lol Keep the ideas coming madman...I already love it!

mr.tourismo (m.tourismo@mail.streetracing.org) MSG #165, 02-17-2005 10:26 PM
      bump

88GTFormula (tdbonner2012@gmail.com) MSG #166, 02-17-2005 11:21 PM
      hey Curly... Mind if I use a few of ure ideas... If you wanna know which 1s PM me... its under wraps...

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #167, 02-18-2005 12:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 88GTFormula:

hey Curly... Mind if I use a few of ure ideas... If you wanna know which 1s PM me... its under wraps...

Hehehe i think quite of few of curly's ideas are gonna get used !

I know i have several of them already earmarked for my car.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #168, 02-18-2005 07:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 88GTFormula:

hey Curly... Mind if I use a few of ure ideas... If you wanna know which 1s PM me... its under wraps...


I don't mind. My ideas are nothing new. They have been done on different cars before which, I too have copied.

News: My trip to BAK was great! We got most of the work done on the rt. fender flare and vent molded in. It's a ruff fit and needs some smoothing. My goal is to help out in the process so that the other side can be finished w/o me being there at the shop. The IRM rocker is removeable with bolts to hold it in place. The bolts are placed from the inside of the vent or front area of the fender well. The top of the fender flares "kisses" the edge of the 305's. THe apprearance is "stock" looking w/o a none knowing Fiero person thinking it has been modified? Too me it looks and feels like a "stock" look but rather a stealthy body feel.

If things work out, I'll be back to finish the Camero bow-tie tips, front fender flaring, and rear bumber. I have new pics now. Exoticse might post them once he gets home? Remember, it's not 100% finished. There are few areas that need attention, but you get the idea. So grab some popcorn and enjoy.

Madcurl.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-18-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #169, 02-18-2005 08:02 PM
      Thanks Orville for sharing a rear clip from your "field of Dreams." That rear clip will have a "new" life on #? (insert secret part here). btw, no good rear clips were cut. Orville had a FB rear clip that was already cut and part of Orville's DNA on it, hehehe. I didn't know that black widows hide out inside a rear "b" clip?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-18-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #170, 02-18-2005 09:26 PM
     

Okay back from work, ready to roll,........ sit back and enjoy:

Here are pics of the fender flares as Madcurl and company get back to work on smoothing things out

A step further along in the process with more glass (or filler ?) going on::

Ohhhhh yeah!

a couple different angles

Vents in black primer:

Speechless.

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #171, 02-18-2005 11:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


A step further along in the process with more glass (or filler ?) going on::


Vents in black primer:


Is that "Bondo-Glass" or just filler..??

I HOPE that it is bondo glass...
Why did'nt you just fiberglass the flare to the fiero BEFORE you did the filler, etc..???
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Speechless.



That is absolutely AMAZING!!




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #172, 02-19-2005 04:47 PM
      Answer for NAFAL. I forgot the name of the brand used but, it's flexes or gives with the body. Or "forgiving" as it allows for some movement. Trend use a metal studs that hold the part in place and then smooth the material over the preped area.

I guess, Trend could have used the material underneath the fender but I have never seen them to on other cars. I guess this way works for them so it works for me? It has worked on #11 so far.

More pics are on the way. Enjoy.

Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #173, 02-19-2005 05:18 PM
      Is the fender going to be molded into the lower scoop piece as well, or are you leaving them as two seperate pieces?

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #174, 02-19-2005 05:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Answer for NAFAL. I forgot the name of the brand used but, it's flexes or gives with the body. Or "forgiving" as it allows for some movement. Trend use a metal studs that hold the part in place and then smooth the material over the preped area.

I guess, Trend could have used the material underneath the fender but I have never seen them to on other cars. I guess this way works for them so it works for me? It has worked on #11 so far.

More pics are on the way. Enjoy.

Yeah, it is like Bondo-glass in a few ways... It does 'forgive' like you say, I have used it in several places on mine!!
I was asking because I got into a habit of screwing whatever in place, and then fiberglassing anyways over that... I guess I was just being better safe then sorry...


NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #175, 02-19-2005 05:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jncomutt:

Is the fender going to be molded into the lower scoop piece as well, or are you leaving them as two seperate pieces?

I bet not, because I have a feeling thatt this fastback clip is going to also be doing a flip for us also...

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #176, 02-19-2005 05:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jncomutt:

Is the fender going to be molded into the lower scoop piece as well, or are you leaving them as two seperate pieces?

No. Fender is to be bolted in. I can use those plastic fasteners like the ones used for the GT rear bumper below the tail lights. That way if I'm lightly bumped in the rear.....they might break loose instead of ripping the metal bolts?

My goal it to un-bolt the IRM's by removing the rear tires and wheel well or fron the entrance were the vent begains?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #177, 02-19-2005 11:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

More pics are on the way. Enjoy.

And a view from above:



Dough19 MSG #178, 02-20-2005 12:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

wow is all i can say


Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #179, 02-20-2005 02:10 AM
      You going to take that lower GT aero rocker panel of the bottom of the door?



cire36 (duncan863@gmail.com) MSG #180, 02-20-2005 02:56 PM
      Does anyone know what size wheels and tires are being used? Also, are wheel spacers being used?

Thanks.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #181, 02-21-2005 03:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by cire36:

Does anyone know what size wheels and tires are being used? Also, are wheel spacers being used?

Thanks.

Look here> http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/035277-2.html



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #182, 02-21-2005 03:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jncomutt:

You going to take that lower GT aero rocker panel of the bottom of the door?


I don't know yet? I have three Ausie rocker door panels. I originally had planned on using Ausie on the bottom too. In any case, the door panel will no doubt be the last item that I'll tackle. It will be changed for the Ausie or molded into the door skin. Right now, I'm focused on the rear bumper and front flaring for now. It's getting really "old" driving around with a primered car. I don't like long drawn-out projects. I like to finish it before I get bored and then move on to other "pipe dream" projects.

The gas cap opening is cut and will be laid at a angle similar to the Redux's. This involves more time so I'll jump on it 3/2/05. I have more pics. Exoticse may post them once he has time. Enjoy the show.

Thanks for your thoughts.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-21-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #183, 02-21-2005 03:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Soo the VDC are ready too buy and bolt on from XS customs?

(First on page 4 and 5!)

Yeah, the (bolt-on) VDC kit are ready to buy. Jerry is going to install them while I'm in FL.



Nebiros88 MSG #184, 02-21-2005 04:23 PM
      So I'm assuming the XS VDC kit is around $1500? and it is now a bolt-on do it yourself setup without any extra modifications?

Contact info for them? I might have missed it somewhere in this thread, if so im sorry.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #185, 02-21-2005 05:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Nebiros88:

So I'm assuming the XS VDC kit is around $1500? and it is now a bolt-on do it yourself setup without any extra modifications?

Contact info for them? I might have missed it somewhere in this thread, if so im sorry.

look here for more info> http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/048655.html



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #186, 02-21-2005 09:58 PM
     
more from madcurl



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #187, 02-26-2005 11:58 PM
      New for the interior

Mustang vents.

Inside of vents will be painted black

Momo steering wheel installed

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-03-2005).]

Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #188, 02-27-2005 12:03 AM
      Hey madcurl, how about you get rid of the filler there?? Use a 'full' front fender and copy the design as you did the otherside. Relocate the filler nozzle behind the driverside tailight. You can put a hinge mechanism by the trunk lock. You can then extend the cable to a factory style latch that would connect to the outer edge of the tail light assembly. When you need gas, pull the lever, the taillight would pop out about 4" on a center pivot, Fill the tank, click the tail light back into position, off ya go!!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #189, 02-27-2005 12:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jncomutt:

Hey madcurl, how about you get rid of the filler there?? Use a 'full' front fender and copy the design as you did the otherside. Relocate the filler nozzle behind the driverside tailight. You can put a hinge mechanism by the trunk lock. You can then extend the cable to a factory style latch that would connect to the outer edge of the tail light assembly. When you need gas, pull the lever, the taillight would pop out about 4" on a center pivot, Fill the tank, click the tail light back into position, off ya go!!

Hmmmm.....I seen that on a import. Good idea, thanks. I was thinking of moving the gas cap north a little. I have a few ideas left. I did however, checked on the Audi TT gas cap........WOW! Too rich for my blood.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #190, 02-28-2005 12:18 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Hmmmm.....I seen that on a import. Good idea, thanks. I was thinking of moving the gas cap north a little. I have a few ideas left. I did however, checked on the Audi TT gas cap........WOW! Too rich for my blood.

Just curious, how much was it ??

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #191, 02-28-2005 08:40 PM
      It's Fun Time again. Heading to BAK Tuesday for rear-end JLO modifications. Get your popcorn before the show starts, hehehe. If time allows, Exoticse may have time to post pics?

Later. Madcurl

bonzo (llaaragon@cs.com) MSG #192, 02-28-2005 09:37 PM
      Is it going to be ready for Daytona?

Bonzo

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #193, 03-02-2005 03:25 PM
      ***Bump***

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #194, 03-02-2005 07:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by bonzo:

Is it going to be ready for Daytona?

Bonzo


Nope,...won't be finished, but it will be there.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #195, 03-06-2005 01:03 AM
      New stuff from madcurl

Side wing tips added

gas door modifications

Not sure on the details yet, but apparently there has been a major setback and it has something to do with this picture ?

Stay tuned !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-06-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #196, 03-06-2005 03:31 PM
      It appears the setback is more time related.

Apparently a water pipe ruptured at the shop, causing associated problems and delays.

In the meantime, one more to snack on.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-06-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #197, 03-09-2005 07:50 PM
     
newest rear bumper work:

Curly gets a new toy.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #198, 03-10-2005 08:33 PM
      Two New pics are on the way. I said a prayer prior to the cutting of my other rear bumper to be skin grafted onto #15. The rt side is now flared outward pass the morbidly obese 305's. I got the car aligned at a local DUB shop. Boy were they shocked! I'm wraping things up for now for the long trip to Daytona to roll with chopper #14 on Wednesday?

If Exoticse has time he might post them. Enjoy.

Madcurl.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 03-10-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #199, 03-10-2005 10:58 PM
      Guys let me just say this is scary,....this car is nowhere near done and it is already jawdropping !

New pics of the right rear:

Down view of the right rear:

Those 305's not looking so out of place now huh ?

Driver side view:

No drooling on the keyboard please.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-10-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #200, 03-11-2005 06:38 PM
      Let's roll! Mr. Mike's seats are in and I'm heading to FL. 3,000 miles just like 2004 Daytona show.......only this time I'm roll'n with #14. Yeah, my car look ugly on the outside but, heck who cares.

I may have a few more pics this Sunday before heading out?

Master Tuner Akimoto MSG #201, 03-11-2005 07:44 PM
      Mine will not be there but hope to see you there .

Sharkman MSG #202, 03-15-2005 05:37 PM
      Just trying too stay tuned. Looks great.
Have been In spain for 2 weeks and yesterday I drove a car in spain, 30 degress in the morning and
my daily driver in a snowstorm in the evening back in Sweden.
Man I need the sun and warm In Sweden soo I can drive my Fiero again. I hate the snow and cold...


Voytek (vurbanson@pecousa.com) MSG #203, 03-15-2005 06:20 PM
      WOW. This is unbelievable!!

Thanks for all the pics - I have a lot to learn!

Quick question: What is that black stuff you're using to attach the flexible fenders to the rear fiberglass quarters?

Is it flexible or rigid?

Thanks!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #204, 03-16-2005 11:08 AM
     

Man i really like the looks of a shaved fiero ! Don't get me wrong the molding is OK, but if you have the skills and the resources to shave them, i think the fiero looks so much more exotic.



Sharkman MSG #205, 03-17-2005 10:33 AM
      Would like too know if you installed the VDC from XS customs yet. Any problems?
Thinking of getting them soon for my car.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #206, 03-17-2005 10:54 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Would like too know if you installed the VDC from XS customs yet. Any problems?
Thinking of getting them soon for my car.


Nope not yet, but soon, that is part of the reason he is bringing the unfinished #15 to Florida for Daytona. Gonna get a few goodies installed while here !



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #207, 03-21-2005 12:59 AM
     

Daytona 2005, a beautiful day, a beautiful car, what else do you need ??? How about a beautiful girl !!

Fast forward, Curly, myself, and Norm are practically the last ones to leave the track on Sunday, as we are wrapping things up, we see this nice looking young lady go bouncing, er uh running by.
Curly smiles, i smile, and the next thing i know, he has organized an impromtu photo shoot.

It was a rough job guys but you know the saying,......somebody has to do it !

Madcurl Model productions gives you the beautiful Brandy:

I know you guys would never forgive me if i did not go in for the closeup on this one !

Sorry Archie does not offer this option in place of the lexan glass.



For some reason Madcurl got an extremely wicked smile when we got to this shot, Hmmm i wonder why ?

Guys In case you missed her this year, Brandy will be back next year,..her dad has an extremely nice Dino that he shows each year at Daytona.

Thanks Brandy, good luck with your modeling career !

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #208, 03-21-2005 01:29 AM
     

Oh yeah i forgot to mention,....the car wasn't too bad either.



rmphoto MSG #209, 03-21-2005 02:23 AM
      finally some proper photos.... you really cant see much on those camera phone photos.

in my opinion those rims are just too big.. it looks funny..
but nice job with the mystery black putty... too secret to share i guesse.

EDIT: after seeing more pics in another thread, i like the rear rims now but the front still look too big.. maybe a 20-19 combo would be nice.

[This message has been edited by rmphoto (edited 03-21-2005).]

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #210, 03-21-2005 02:47 AM
      I have absolutely fallen in love with Curley's Fiero... lol, I want to do that and more to my car. Gotta love not having bills / being paid by the US Government, oh and those $10,000 enlistment bonuses are fun too

[This message has been edited by 1986 Fiero GT (edited 03-21-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #211, 03-22-2005 11:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by rmphoto:

finally some proper photos.... you really cant see much on those camera phone photos.

in my opinion those rims are just too big.. it looks funny..
but nice job with the mystery black putty... too secret to share i guesse.

EDIT: after seeing more pics in another thread, i like the rear rims now but the front still look too big.. maybe a 20-19 combo would be nice.

Don't worry curly plans to add fender flares to the front fender area and also pull the side of the nose out also in order to make the front wheels look right. By the time he is finished the front will look just as natural as the rear. This car is far from finished,...when he puts the rest of the exterior items on this car you are going to be really blown away,...and i am not even talking about the corvette lamps !

On the subject of those rims,...Absolutely Sick ! The Baddest rims ever on a fiero, worth every overpriced penny hehehehe !

You have to see them in person to really see how awesome they are. Curly you got me seriously thinking about them. THe chop comes first though.




1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #212, 03-22-2005 11:56 PM
      i agree wholeheartedly about the rims, those are some of the most beautiful pieces of metal i've ever seen... Who makes them and what's their model name, I need some... I actually want to try to same thing, put absolutely massive front and rear tires on my '86 GT and do my own widebody kit, I love working on cars and doing everything custom... That's why I bought the Fiero, I fell in love with them when I first saw them, and they're just so easy to mod and customize... Thank you Pontiac / GM

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #213, 03-23-2005 12:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 1986 Fiero GT:

i agree wholeheartedly about the rims, those are some of the most beautiful pieces of metal i've ever seen... Who makes them and what's their model name, I need some... I actually want to try to same thing, put absolutely massive front and rear tires on my '86 GT and do my own widebody kit, I love working on cars and doing everything custom... That's why I bought the Fiero, I fell in love with them when I first saw them, and they're just so easy to mod and customize... Thank you Pontiac / GM

The Rims are the HRE brand. THat equals Biiiiiiiiiiiiig bucks !!

The rims are around $1,200 or more each !! We are not even talking tires yet.

Curly doesn't go cheap, ......nothing but the best hehehe !



jscott1 MSG #214, 03-23-2005 12:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by rmphoto:

EDIT: i like the rear rims now but the front still look too big.. maybe a 20-19 combo would be nice.

I believe this is a 19/20 combo

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #215, 03-24-2005 08:29 AM
      Holy snap... $1,200 EACH?!? lol, I almost had a heart attack when I read that... Little out of my budget, you have fun with 'dem wheels, Curly and if you ever want to sell, shoot me a PM... lol

Maybe I'll stick to the stock wheels for a bit, then find something a tad cheaper, like $2,000 or so for all 4... lol

FieroMGDriver (mgdickey@gmail.com) MSG #216, 03-24-2005 08:49 AM
      How about some full size photos of the car (with or without Brandy) that you can email to me?



Sharkman MSG #217, 04-01-2005 02:57 AM
      bump

Sharkman MSG #218, 04-04-2005 01:34 PM
      ops a bump again...
Where are those VDC pics



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #219, 04-09-2005 02:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

ops a bump again...
Where are those VDC pics

Sorry, Jerry started on the dash first and not the VDC's. I think the dash is the complicated part? (judging from the last time) The VDC's are second nature to Jerry and it shouldn't cause them any "issues."


Pics? I don't think Jerry has a digital camera? Our best man for the job would be Shawnfl. He works down the block from them and has a camera. Oh well, two more weeks to go.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 04-20-2005).]

Sharkman MSG #220, 04-12-2005 05:18 PM
      What dash, have I missed some info regarding that?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #221, 04-12-2005 05:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

What dash, have I missed some info regarding that?

XS customs is doing another custom dash and lambo doors for chop top #15. THey are the same guys (under a different company name) who did the custom dash and lambo doors for the Silver chop top a.k.a #11.

MDFierolvr (sabre628@aol.com) MSG #222, 04-12-2005 07:51 PM
      I believe that there is only one word that can describe the work that curley does.... genius, pure genius

tomanyfieros (tomanyfieros@aol.com) MSG #223, 04-13-2005 08:28 AM
      any new pics to drool over?

Sharkman MSG #224, 04-19-2005 07:14 PM
      ups, a bump

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #225, 04-19-2005 08:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tomanyfieros:

any new pics to drool over?

Tuesday-----6 days to go.
Yeah, but they are camera phone pics and you know what that means--------crapy. He's currently tring to send pics using the phone. I don't know if he is knows how to use it? Otherwise our only hope is Shawnfl. I hope to be there on Monday. Exoticse can't make it so that means I too will have to resort to using the crapy camera phone.

I just got off the phone with Jerry. The dash is on target and VDC kit. It's rather hard to discribe but it is a one-piece that is smooth. Plans have been laid for the Stealth.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 04-20-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #226, 04-20-2005 01:25 AM
     

Don't count me out yet curly hehehe. I might be able to juggle something for Tuesday. Just need to switch a day off with a co-worker and all is good.

We were suppossed to hook up on Monday, but that just happens to be my wife's birthday.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #227, 04-20-2005 10:26 PM
     

Okay it's finally happened,....madcurl has finally flipped his lid (hint, hint) !!!

After the interior and lambo doors are finished this weekend, this comes next !

And as usual Curly will be going beyond the Norm (excuse the pun) hehehe,...Corvette lamps and all.

Curly i still think you should incorporate some of the elements from this front bumper.




F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #228, 04-20-2005 10:55 PM
      This is my favorite! Alot of photos get posted here, unfortunately not enough of them are truely all that interesting...

(What car?)



88GTFormula (tdbonner2012@gmail.com) MSG #229, 04-21-2005 07:47 PM
      Bump

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #230, 04-22-2005 03:46 PM
      NEWS UPDATE:

CHOPTOP #15 ISN'T READY FOR PICK-UP.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #231, 04-23-2005 01:21 PM
      STATUS REPORT: Talking Heads Prevail.

After talking it over with Frank (Dragon) it seems that this episode can be used to everyones advantage.

1. Head-out to Floridia on May 31st to pick-up #15
2. Drive to the Dells Show.
3. Install Norms front clip.
4 Go to the show.
5. People up north getting a chance to view it.............PRICELESS
6. Head-back to California.

Possible issues? I need to contact Norm first and see if he is available before the show?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 04-23-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #232, 05-01-2005 01:38 AM
      Old but new !

Prewidebody flaring pictures of choptop #15. New because they have never been posted before !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 05-01-2005).]

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #233, 05-02-2005 03:19 PM
      Looking amazing as usual Madcurl!

Any mention of color choice yet? After looking through all these pics, I'm kind of hoping you go with a rich Red (something about that F355 photo earlier in the thread ).

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #234, 05-02-2005 04:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

Looking amazing as usual Madcurl!

Any mention of color choice yet? After looking through all these pics, I'm kind of hoping you go with a rich Red (something about that F355 photo earlier in the thread ).

Yep. The godfather wanted to see a red chopper. I think #16 may go with red to?

Oh yeah, thanks Tony for posting pics. As you can see that I do have a pretty good digital camera but, I rarely have time to use it.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 05-02-2005).]

jscott1 MSG #235, 05-03-2005 12:05 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

As you can see that I do have a pretty good digital camera but, I rarely have time to use it.

I can SEE!! A clear picture of #15 and it looks awesome... This confirms my "bigfoot" theory, Curley you intentionally release all those grainy camera phone pics to keep us guessing about what it really is you are up to.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #236, 05-10-2005 07:29 PM
      News update: ShawnFL, the t.v. reportor on the seen has taken some early pics of the dash and of the VDC kit. Thumbs up for Shawn while during the "reporting" while on his lunch break!

Progress report: I will not make it to the Dell show due to the making of the dash. Sorry.

Disclaimer: Pics are not pretty. Viewers must use imagination. Not responsible for the lost of dinners and fluids, while viewing pics. hehehe. Enjoy

Exoticse will post if he has time? No pics of the VDC kit on car. Shawn might go by on Thursday for pics if Jerry has the VDC kit on?

Later.

madcurl



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #237, 05-10-2005 11:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

News update: ShawnFL, the t.v. reportor on the seen has taken some early pics of the dash and of the VDC kit. Thumbs up for Shawn while during the "reporting" while on his lunch break!

Progress report: I will not make it to the Dell show due to the making of the dash. Sorry.

Disclaimer: Pics are not pretty. Viewers must use imagination. Not responsible for the lost of dinners and fluids, while viewing pics. hehehe. Enjoy

Exoticse will post if he has time? No pics of the VDC kit on car. Shawn might go by on Thursday for pics if Jerry has the VDC kit on?

Later.

madcurl


LIke curly said these are early crude mockups, ..but this is the same guy that did the awesome dash for the silver chop top
as seen here:

That was the past now in the present you can already see that this dash will likely be even better !

Anybody recognize these puppies ?? Hehehe

Again thanks to shawn for supplying the pics !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 05-10-2005).]

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #238, 05-10-2005 11:32 PM
      why are the vdc hinges all rusty?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #239, 05-11-2005 02:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

why are the vdc hinges all rusty?


The VDC kits come with a coat of gray paint or black. The area were it is rusty is the part that is modified. It might be due to it not being protected after the modifications? The kit will be sanded and prep'd for painting. This VDC is a different type. It uses a different hindge and the shock is stronger this time around.

EDIT: the digital gauge is one that Archie and I seen while at the SEMA show in Las Vegas 2004. Dakota Digital now carries them. Although it is Chromed, it will be painted black.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 05-11-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #240, 05-11-2005 02:15 AM
     

Hey curly is that styrofoam that he is using in the mockup process, or something else ?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #241, 05-11-2005 02:19 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Hey curly is that styrofoam that he is using in the mockup process, or something else ?



Yep.

Edit: old pipe dream from long ago.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-25-2007).]

Sharkman MSG #242, 05-11-2005 03:32 AM
      Looking good. Cant wait too see that dash when ready.
I am going for the firebird dash later on but in the meantime I am installing 6x9 speaker in my original dash. You said it was done on yours but they did not take any pictures of the mod. I have and will post them in a new tread next week when I am 100% done with that mod. You cant see anything on the outside but there are a lot of work too get them in on the inside!!!




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #243, 05-14-2005 04:27 PM
      Well, I'm laying low for now. Waiting for ShawnFL to give the 411 on #15, hehehe.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #244, 05-20-2005 06:07 PM
      New pics of the dash comming soon. Shawn (a.k.a VDC news reporter) arrived on the seen with camera in tow.

shawnkfl (kmn9312@knology.net) MSG #245, 05-20-2005 06:46 PM
      just bumping this so i can find it easier.......i'm off to post some current pics now.....don't go away.

shawnkfl (kmn9312@knology.net) MSG #246, 05-20-2005 06:56 PM
      ok. thanks for everyone patience....

here are pics from this afternoon.


forgot one...

the dash is smoothed out a little more and taking shape. looks awesome!

[This message has been edited by shawnkfl (edited 05-20-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #247, 05-20-2005 07:07 PM
      Thanks for posting pics. If all things work out right...I'll be in FL. on May 31st?

shawnkfl (kmn9312@knology.net) MSG #248, 05-20-2005 07:17 PM
      not a problem at all. i'll go back tuesday or wednesday for more update pics. i've got a funny feeling a bunch of work will get done this weekend



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #249, 05-25-2005 10:05 PM
     
Any Updates ??


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #250, 06-11-2005 01:49 AM
      Hey Curly here is that elusive picture that you were surprised had never been captured,..a female behind the wheel of #15.

This was at the end of Daytona on Sunday, when you let lady B (Brigida i think ?) take it for a spin.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 06-11-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #251, 06-11-2005 02:05 AM
     
More Daytona leftovers.

Exotic SE (Meeeeeee !) sizing up #15 as I prepare to get my own.



NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #252, 06-13-2005 11:25 AM
      Very Nice MADZ!
exoticse... when are you getting a choptop done..?? This year.>??



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #253, 06-13-2005 11:56 PM
     

Sometime between October and January. Got an overseas trip coming, gotta wait till i come back.

Sharkman MSG #254, 06-15-2005 03:03 AM
      Need an update on the #15, VDC doors and the interior!!!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #255, 06-15-2005 05:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Need an update on the #15, VDC doors and the interior!!!


Not finished yet. Car is now located in new shop awaiting completion of dash. I may need a Snickers bar...hmm? Currently I'm working on next project tring to figure-out what type of blacked-out rims to use.

 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Sometime between October and January. Got an overseas trip coming, gotta wait till i come back.

Hmmm......at this rate of speed you could piggy-back one of those VDC with you over seas?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 06-15-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #256, 07-01-2005 11:09 PM
     
Uh Ooooooooooooh he's at it again !

Look what the madman is cooking up now. Diffuse this !

Obviously in the mockup stages, but you get the point.

Hmmm i need to hit the junkyards.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #257, 07-07-2005 01:00 PM
      Where does this guy get all his creativity ???

He can look at a piece of junk and figure out a way to tweek it and use it on his car, that looks better than most aftermarket stuff you or i can buy right off the shelf.

It is sickening,..hehehehe actually depressing !

I know i certianly do not have this gift.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 07-07-2005).]

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #258, 07-07-2005 02:00 PM
      Exoticse
Do you know what car is that piece from?

JG



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #259, 07-07-2005 02:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by THE BEAST:

Exoticse
Do you know what car is that piece from?

JG

Yes and No. He told me but at the moment it skips my mind. Madcurl can give you the proper answer when he gets a chance.

He basically found a busted up bumper with a body kit installed at either a junk yard or tossed in the trash at his bodyshop, i forget which one, and saw the opportunity to glass it back together, reshape it, and create a custom rear diffuser.

Just yet another great idea.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #260, 07-15-2005 02:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by THE BEAST:

Exoticse
Do you know what car is that piece from?

JG

Bump. Because---Good threads should never die.

I got the difuser from a newer Honda Civic 2003? I have another one from a Ford Escort too which has better vents. In any case, I'm going to just mold-in the part using ribbets first then, later fiberglass material. The pics were just a simple mock-up.

Update #15:

Picking up #15 next month. Driving the V8 bubble-top is nice but, I need to get started on the front-end flaring.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 07-15-2005).]

pavo_roddy MSG #261, 07-18-2005 08:02 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

A sneak peak into chop top number 15 as it heads for Archie's shop.

13" Corvette Brakes niceeeeeeeeee !

Look for some big rims and tires on this puppy ! Oh yeah it's got a little something under the decklid too, to justify that new stopping power.

No unfortunatly it's not mine, and no it's not the fiero redux ,.............just posting for a friend.
This car is going to be wicked !


Hi all,

Is the brake mod a mod of the held system, to get the 13 inch rotor??


Kohburn MSG #262, 07-18-2005 08:05 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

In any case, I'm going to just mold-in the part using ribbets first then, later fiberglass material.

well HOP to it - we want results (ribbet joke since i think you were talking about rivets)

[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 07-18-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #263, 07-18-2005 12:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:


well HOP to it - we want results (ribbet joke since i think you were talking about rivets)

Sorry. I had salad that daym hehe.

The 13" Corvette brakes are from Design 1 Systems in OKC. They are from the Z06 but I wanted the 13's on all fours. I seen a Z06 last Sunday and the rear brakes looked strange to me.



pavo_roddy MSG #264, 07-18-2005 04:11 PM
      Hi all,

This is good news indeed! What other mods do you have on the suspension??

edit: Design 1 needs to update their site, cuz I saw no listing for this brake conversion... I was curious as to how much it might be....

[This message has been edited by pavo_roddy (edited 07-18-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #265, 07-18-2005 07:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pavo_roddy:

Hi all,

This is good news indeed! What other mods do you have on the suspension??

edit: Design 1 needs to update their site, cuz I saw no listing for this brake conversion... I was curious as to how much it might be....

Nothing. It's all OEM. No need for drop springs, coil-overs, or special upper arms using 19/20 combos. Just put them on...and roll. I do have polys on corners but thats it.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #266, 08-06-2005 02:23 PM
      Update: Viper Red VDC kit.

Doors are installed and dash with 4-6 pics. I'll send more later. The VDC kit is painted Viper red.

I sent the pics to Tony. If he has time, he might post them?


Enjoy.

madcurl

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #267, 08-06-2005 06:59 PM
     

Jerry, the owner of XS customs, working things out

Both doors up

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 08-06-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #268, 08-06-2005 07:22 PM
     
Progress on the dash



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #269, 08-07-2005 10:38 AM
     


Man those doors look good !

I got to get me a set of those hehehehe. Once the dash is done, the body mods finished and this car painted, it is going to be one baddddddddddddd chopper !

cire36 (duncan863@gmail.com) MSG #270, 08-07-2005 01:10 PM
      In one of the pics, the lower VDC strut mount pushes the wheel well liner foward. Do they end up staying that way? Is it an issue once the fenders are reinstalled?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #271, 08-11-2005 07:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by cire36:

In one of the pics, the lower VDC strut mount pushes the wheel well liner foward. Do they end up staying that way? Is it an issue once the fenders are reinstalled?


hmm. I will ask them about that. I noticed it too. Not a issue on #11.

Update: from Kelly
 
quote

"Jerry has it all apart AGAIN!! to fix the area for the filp screen area. I'll send more pic's when he puts the parts back in."

Kelly
[quote]

Appearently the DVD screen was touching the under side of the center vents when fully extended.



MilleniumFiero MSG #272, 08-11-2005 07:53 PM
      [QUOTE]Originally posted by madcurl:

I just gotta say wow those tires are WIDE!!!



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #273, 08-11-2005 08:28 PM
     

Being that i know Curly is missing #15 badly, i will throw him some unposted pics of #15 from Daytona 2005 to tide him over for a bit and remind him what it looks like.



jscott1 MSG #274, 08-11-2005 08:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MilleniumFiero:


I just gotta say wow those tires are WIDE!!!

Whoever says that Fieros don't need power steering obviously don't know Curly...and gotta admire a man who works on a car in white pants!!



jscott1 MSG #275, 08-12-2005 12:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


Funny how things change, I remember thinking this was high...now I'd drive arcoss town to get gas that cheap.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #276, 09-08-2005 01:30 PM
     

Bump cause, Good threads should never die.



#013

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 09-21-2007).]

NY_FIERO (timg@expressmart.com) MSG #277, 09-08-2005 04:24 PM
      wow impressive.


Formula MSG #278, 09-08-2005 04:32 PM
      are you going to take the aero piece off the door?

i imagine you already have something planned but i think some of the fierowarehouse (i think they might be from the imsa widebody kit) front fenders would look great!

oh yeah, it looks really good

FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #279, 09-08-2005 05:12 PM
      id keep the front fender the stock front width, make it look like it's muscular car ad giving it a total mean look, similar to a 575, instead of a WRX look of all 4 wheel wells flared.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #280, 09-08-2005 05:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:

id keep the front fender the stock front width, make it look like it's muscular car ad giving it a total mean look, similar to a 575, instead of a WRX look of all 4 wheel wells flared.

I think curly has already decided to flare the front as well. Should look good.

It will tuck those wide front wheels in quite nicely.

Hulk MSG #281, 09-08-2005 10:43 PM
      Beautiful car. Has anyone ever seen/own a car with less than a 3" chop? I was wondering what 1.5" would look like?

Edit: Sweet-my first owned page!!!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #282, 10-11-2005 09:15 PM
      I flew-in and was amazed how Jerry performed the glass work on #15. The 4-parts are shinny black w/Mustang air vents. The VDC Fiero II kit is improved by using a better and stronger strut shock to left the doors. I rode in a VDC Celica today and the differences are noticable. The Fiero are made to clear the roof-line and extend outward greater than other kits I've seen. I took cell phone pics but I'll wait until Wednesday for better resolution from a good camera. If things workout, ShawnFL might have time to post pics if he can?


Later.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #283, 10-12-2005 12:07 AM
     

Sounds good.

Can't wait to see the dash, and the car again for that matter !

pavo_roddy MSG #284, 10-12-2005 03:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Hulk:

Beautiful car. Has anyone ever seen/own a car with less than a 3" chop? I was wondering what 1.5" would look like?

Edit: Sweet-my first owned page!!!

HI all,

I doubt this will ever happen though, I pmed archie about doing this and he had said that it would be about the same amount of work, so probably would cost just as much........Course he "didn't" say it would..............SORRY to highjack............



HOS (thieseus@canada.com) MSG #285, 10-12-2005 05:00 AM
      Looks too good for words. Wondering--just how wide is the rear end, and when is it going to be made into a kit for those of us who aren't so talented.

jscott1 MSG #286, 10-12-2005 12:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

I took cell phone pics but I'll wait until Wednesday for better resolution from a good camera.


It's wednesday and still no pics??



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #287, 10-13-2005 04:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

It's wednesday and still no pics??

ShawnFl will be at XS Custom within the hour to take some picks. After that I'm heading Mr. Mike's I hope and then I'm off to CAleefornia.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #288, 10-14-2005 12:13 AM
     

Hey Shawn how about those new pics ??

Can't wait to see them.

GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #289, 10-14-2005 09:22 AM
      We're waiting .

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #290, 10-15-2005 11:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Hey Shawn how about those new pics ??

Can't wait to see them.

oh Shawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ??

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #291, 10-17-2005 02:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


oh Shawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ??


The pics sent to Exoticse. Later guys. I'm on vacation. I'll fill-in the comments later, hehee



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #292, 10-17-2005 07:15 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

The pics sent to Exoticse. Later guys. I'm on vacation. I'll fill-in the comments later, hehee

Will post tonight when i get off work. I need to resize them.

fierce_gt MSG #293, 10-17-2005 12:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Will post tonight when i get off work. I need to resize them.


you better, this is the 6th time i've come into this thread expecting pics


GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #294, 10-17-2005 01:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierce_gt:

you better, this is the 6th time i've come into this thread expecting pics

me to !!!!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #295, 10-17-2005 10:21 PM
      well curly only sent a couple of pics so don't get too excited.

Here they are, alittle hard to get the full picture, but dash still looks pretty darned good !!

First a work in progress pic from before.

How it looks after coming into form.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 10-17-2005).]

JenzGT2 (jen-fizz@sbcglobal.net) MSG #296, 10-17-2005 10:28 PM
      More please, don't hold out on us!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #297, 10-17-2005 10:32 PM
      Okay guys, vacation is offically over. News? Yes. sorry guys, I only got 3-pics and 1-pic is missing.

What happened? The area that was to be covered with the same material was performed or worked on by someone else and not by Matt's Customs. Whoever did the work somehow covered over the center defroster vents (yeah, that's what I said too?). It was later reworked on the next day and by 12noon it was finished....but! The padding was too thick and it therefor throw-off the entire custom black fiberglass parts. Plus, the speaker padding was not a complete copy of each other as seen in the pic. I was going to live with it but since I like things to fit nicely and so does Jerry, it was decided that I'll come back next month.

The VDC kit was finished and the doors are now easy to raise due to the use of a stronger strut that is commonly used on trucks. The SUV struts are way too strong. It does take a little more weight to bring the doors down. It's really no issue due to the Fiero's door handle.

XS Customs deducted the cost of the round trip and hotel loggings. They throw in some extra work on the headliner and "alls good" in my book. No monies were lost because I was off during the time I was at the shop. I had a good time and finally meet ShawnFL (a very nice guy). It's good that we have friends all over the world who loves Fieros.

I must have talked my headoff with ShawnFL, talking about this & that. Mr. Mike and Frank was very helpful in calming my nerves. Exoticse and D1S were great too. I decided to leave after Thursday came and gone. I flew-out of FL headed to Chicago (ORD) to CA (SFO). I nearly missed my connection flight while in ORD while trying to eat a hot dog.

DAsh n Things? The dash IMO is 100% better than #11 and since it is a high gloss black, it's apprearance is stronger with less fluff. I do have camera phone but I won't ruin the moment with those pictures. Jerry took 4-pictures total while I was at the shop.

Edit: The two front speakers are 6x9's. The 6x9's were part of the problem, hehe

Thanks Tony for posting. I'll ask Kelly for the other pics.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-17-2005).]

GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #298, 10-18-2005 09:11 AM
      Glad everything is working out and looking good . My doors take alittle more effort to pull down also . Those little lift shocks are pretty strong . What color is the car going to be painted ?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #299, 10-18-2005 01:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:
What color is the car going to be painted ?

Same as the VDC hindges.......Viper Red. It seems that I'll need to change out the black seat colors in for red. I'll switch with the Stealth Fiero.

While I was at the shop, I changed the position sensor. The T.P went out during my trip to Daytona. Yes, it was a pain tring to remove it.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #300, 11-05-2005 07:52 PM
      Bump. New pics soon!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #301, 11-08-2005 10:36 PM
      Dash is in, interior is cleaned, and the oil plus the filter has been changed. Wednesday it will get a good bath. It's time to roll! Shawnfl is comming by prior to me leaving. He's bringing his camera---I hope?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #302, 11-10-2005 09:00 PM
      Some pics of his new lambo doors, curly shot me before he left the shop at XS customs here in florida.

Curly says XS used a new stronger strut this go round making opening the doors feather light,
and opening outward wider.

Still waiting on new pics of the dash from Shawnfl and some pics from the road.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 11-10-2005).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #303, 11-10-2005 09:12 PM
      Right on cue ! Pictures from the road from madcurl himself !

This picture was taken this morning in Memphis.

Still waiting on the new dash pics from Shawnfl.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 11-10-2005).]

Sharkman MSG #304, 11-11-2005 06:25 PM
      O man. I want VDC kit on my choptop



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #305, 11-11-2005 09:14 PM
     

Just talked to Madcurl again, he is in Texas. He says the car is getting mad attention ! People are slowing down taking pics, etc.

Basically drawing a crowd everywhere it goes.

Should be some good tales upcoming for the choptop chronicles !

jscott1 MSG #306, 11-11-2005 09:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Just talked to Madcurl again, he is in Texas!

Choptop capitol of the world... can't wait to see #15 when it's done.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #307, 11-11-2005 11:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Just talked to Madcurl again, he is in Texas. He says the car is getting mad attention ! People are slowing down taking pics, etc.

Basically drawing a crowd everywhere it goes.

Should be some good tales upcoming for the choptop chronicles !

He called me earlier today, he sounds like he's grinning all the way home.

Archie

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #308, 11-12-2005 06:17 PM
     

Everything but a fiero hehehehe.

Madcurl now in New Mexico and people are stumped about the car.

One guy even thought it was a Delorean ! hehehe

I will let curly tell that story and alll the others when he gets back.




Dowdian MSG #309, 11-12-2005 09:36 PM
      Really glad to hear things are going well. Can't wait to see this car again this spring!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #310, 11-14-2005 05:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dowdian:

Really glad to hear things are going well. Can't wait to see this car again this spring!


Man. It's seems like there will be a large Daytona choptop turnout. 11-12 choptops (I hope).

UPDATE: I finally arrived in CA on Sunday 16:00HR. Before I left BAK, I dropped additional pics off at Dale's house. I didn't use my camera phone, hehe.

Issues? Yes. My battery died on me while at a rest stop in TN. I drove straight throw to AK. I spotted a local Auto Zone and bought a new battery. How did I drive that far w/o shutting the car off? I used my gas card and left the engine running. Yes. That's a "no-no," hehe. Also my XM radio didn't work. Why? They accidently mounted the reciever underneath the steering wheel. I had my 20-disc backup...no problem.

What's new? Dash is finished in fiber-glass with a black shiney paint. Items?

1. Dakota Digital gauges
2. 2005 Mustang air vents
3. Street Works electric window switches (illuminated), Cup holders.
4. 2003 Viper shifter bezels.
4. MOMO shifter.
5. and Mr. Mike's Custom one-off interior (material).

Items not finished:

1. Bezel around stereo, ugly grey-ish mat behind seats, and headliner. From the [pics] you'll notice that it's not finished.
2. hook-up Dakota gauges.

The unfinished items will be done in CA. The guy in FL was "fooling around." I didn't have all day.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-15-2005).]

Songman MSG #311, 11-14-2005 05:54 PM
      Tony, I'm about to send the new pics to you and Frank. Been a bit of a busy day trying to get caught up after the Coast Run. Watch your e-mail.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #312, 11-14-2005 07:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Songman:

Tony, I'm about to send the new pics to you and Frank. Been a bit of a busy day trying to get caught up after the Coast Run. Watch your e-mail.

Ok, waiting.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #313, 11-14-2005 08:50 PM
      I also noticed that I have more left knee room (both sides). Lt & Rt vents are moved toward the dash. How was this performed? Jerry used some type of white flexing vent material. Looks like the type you'd find in a hardware store, hehehe. He also used PCV piping too for the Mustang vents. The two central vent are located higher (near you're face) and the two side vents are about in the same height as stock.

Change of covering? I finally found a good use for the 10" sub woofer covering. I'll try and take more pics on Wednesday.
Change of Coloring? While traveling, I notice a nice DUB 1970 Cuda. I'm like the color scheme.


Songman MSG #314, 11-15-2005 03:58 AM
      Tony, the e-mail kicked back. I used the e-mail listed in your profile.

Here is the link. You can just download the zip file from here. At 21 megs, it was too big to e-mail so I just put it on my server.

http://www.fiero-performance.com/Curly.zip

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #315, 11-16-2005 12:24 AM
     
Here ya go !




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #316, 11-16-2005 12:27 AM
      a few more.

Mr Mike (at his house)

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 11-16-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #317, 11-16-2005 01:06 PM
      Thanks Tony and Dale for posting pics. The last pic was just outside Armarillo, TX. All the others were taken at Mr. Mike's place and later in CA. As you can see----I have alot of work left to do. My new electrical window switch...died on me. I had to pull it out from the center consol (that's why it's raised). Some how, the left side switch is acting-up (I need to call Watson Street Work). The radio consol will be fiber-glass and then sent to Spectra for paint chroming. The radio face plate will be bushed aluminum.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-16-2005).]

Will-Martin MSG #318, 11-17-2005 11:56 AM
      Curly,

NICE.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #319, 11-30-2005 08:17 PM
      Mad-hood vents are in. Thanks Fiero Store.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #320, 11-30-2005 08:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Mad-hood vents are in. Thanks Fiero Store.

All right ! Now Curly hurry up and get that car to Trends so they can get to work and finish it up !

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #321, 11-30-2005 09:01 PM
      HOODLUM: BOY'S N THA HOOD.

What #15's front will resemble....well almost, hehe. No doubt I'll do more tweeking.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 01-29-2006).]

shawnkfl (kmn9312@knology.net) MSG #322, 11-30-2005 09:17 PM
      damn...here this thread is! sorry about the delay. i did take some pics while curly was here. they didn't turn out very good though. i don't know if it's my camera, me or both...

anywho, it was awesome meeting curly and talkig with him. i got to climb in the cockpit for myself too. i gotta say, that car is amazing! i can't wait to see it finished.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #323, 12-10-2005 11:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


All right ! Now Curly hurry up and get that car to Trends so they can get to work and finish it up !

Reuben is working on the hood vents now. ETA....12/27/05



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #324, 12-13-2005 12:15 PM
     

Curly any progress on this project ?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #325, 12-21-2005 01:18 AM
     

Bump

Curly how is the above project coming along ? Is the shop progressing on the hood ??

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #326, 12-21-2005 12:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Bump

Curly how is the above project coming along ? Is the shop progressing on the hood ??

Hmm. I called last Thursday and Trend's hadn't started on the hood vents. I'll call back next week.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-21-2005).]

ToonTownfiero MSG #327, 12-21-2005 12:59 PM
      How many cars does Madcurl currently own?
How many completed projects?
How many are in a shop under work?



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #328, 12-21-2005 03:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ToonTownfiero:

How many cars does Madcurl currently own?
How many completed projects?
How many are in a shop under work?


Answer located here: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/050437-2.html

One is in IL and (4) are in CA. As you know, no Fiero is every considered......"finished."



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #329, 12-23-2005 07:56 PM
      I just talked to Trends. Hood vents are mounted! Now let's move onto the front fender flaring.

Sorry. No pics.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #330, 12-29-2005 11:44 AM
     

Just curious "WHEN" are the fiero vendors going to wake up and somebody splash a mold of these hood vents (Fiero redux):

and this widebody rear (Choptop #15) ???:

Curly has offered, but so far no takers !?? I know of a few people would buy these babies in a heartbeat !

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #331, 01-04-2006 06:28 PM
     
New stuff from Madcurl.

#15 gets it's trademark curly vents !

Still to come front fender flares, custom chin spoiler, and ????

88White3.4GT MSG #332, 01-05-2006 12:43 AM
      . . cool . .

mr.tourismo (m.tourismo@mail.streetracing.org) MSG #333, 01-06-2006 09:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


New stuff from Madcurl.

#15 gets it's trademark curly vents !

Still to come front fender flares, custom chin spoiler, and ????


these are functional scoops right?

[This message has been edited by mr.tourismo (edited 01-06-2006).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #334, 01-07-2006 01:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mr.tourismo:

these are functional scoops right?



FUNCTIONAL? Hehehe.

The Firebird hood vents are finished. I sent new pics to Exoticse he might have time to post. These are perhaps the best ones so far? There're nice and straight. In two weeks we move onto the front flaring. Stay tuned.

hehe.
This is the diagram I used:

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 07-02-2007).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #335, 01-07-2006 04:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


FUNCTIONAL? Hehehe.

The Firebird hood vents are finished. I sent new pics to Exoticse he might have time to post. These are perhaps the best ones so far? There're nice and straight. In two weeks we move onto the front flaring. Stay tuned.

Here ya go !



JenzGT2 (jen-fizz@sbcglobal.net) MSG #336, 01-07-2006 05:55 PM
      I'm thinking those are lower profile than the silver one's?

They are looking good.


Jen


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #337, 01-07-2006 06:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JenzGT2:

I'm thinking those are lower profile than the silver one's?

They are looking good.


Jen


Hmmm not so sure,...If anything to me they look higher.

I know for a fact they are wider on this car and on the Redux than they are on the silver chop top.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #338, 01-07-2006 08:59 PM
     



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #339, 01-07-2006 09:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mr.tourismo:

these are functional scoops right?


As you can see, the deck lid is functional as too, the front vents on #11 (no pics). The #15's front scoop have not been cut opened....yet. However, just like #11 they too will sport the openings.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #340, 01-19-2006 01:09 AM
      Now that number #15 has settled in back home in California (after a multi-month florida stay) madcurl has picked up the pace towards getting her finished.

His latest,...Operation Beefcake !

Just like he did on the rear, curly adding an extra front fender flare to the front to bulk things up to cover the massive front rims.

Making some progress !

Flaring out the front also to meet the soon to be modified nose.

No time yet for the nose !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 01-19-2006).]

88White3.4GT MSG #341, 01-19-2006 01:38 AM
      nice... Madcurl, what is that you do again? profession wise

MDFierolvr (sabre628@aol.com) MSG #342, 01-19-2006 12:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:

nice... Madcurl, what is that you do again? profession wise

Yea, I need to know if I should change my major so that I can afford that kind of stuff.

Formula MSG #343, 01-19-2006 01:23 PM
      his profession is mounting fenders on everything!

hes quite good at it too



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #344, 01-19-2006 02:29 PM
     

More Madcurl.

Prepping the beef

Skinning the beef

Glassing on the beef

Now the other side

Stay tuned for the results !


fierce_gt MSG #345, 01-19-2006 04:06 PM
      looking awesome!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #346, 01-19-2006 05:40 PM
      More.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #347, 01-20-2006 10:57 PM
      Ohhhhh baby !!

Front nose will also be tweeked to match the widebody, but so far daannnnggg !

The nose also getting a custom chin spoiler.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 01-20-2006).]

ToonTownfiero MSG #348, 01-20-2006 11:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

More.

Absolutely crazy!

Quick question. What is that on the tires/rims in the above pics.?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #349, 01-20-2006 11:28 PM
     
I am guessing it is just residue from the matierals they are working with.

The wheels are obviously covered up to protect them.

YELLOWFIERO88 (yellowfiero88@aol.com) MSG #350, 01-21-2006 11:08 AM
      They are cloth wheel covers. That is a lot of paint build up on them. Lots of years of experiance and painting will do that to them Very nice madcurl



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #351, 01-21-2006 01:50 PM
      Thanks Tony for posting pics.

OPERATION BEEF CAKE:

It took two days to complete the task. The first day was prep and trying to decide as-to how the beef was to be sliced and glazed onto the fender rack? I used a aluminum 90 degree 2x2" four foot long piece from Ace Hardware for $8 bucks. One can of long Kitty hair ( forgot to take a pic of the product). Reuben (Trends) was working on the glazing as I hook-up the beef. Also, if you've noticed....less beef was used for the fronts vs the rear.

Hang-up: Once we figured out how to bolt and rivet the beef we then needed to make a bracket for the Corvette side marker lamps. Although the area isn't finished and shaped to the actual size it will no doubt be a great location with need bolt-ups to support the fender. The front side nose will sport the F430 vents. This will allow for two bolts to be placed between the two metal brackets once the lower portion is made.

I now have to design and aluminum piece to hook-up with the top fender brace and for venting too. As Tony noted, the front will sport the IRM Fiero Warehouse spoiler. That will no doubt be last on the list. Front 255's are now wrapped by the beefie flares.

Edit: I got four front fenders for $10 bucks a piece.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 01-21-2006).]

fierce_gt MSG #352, 01-21-2006 06:27 PM
      absolutely amazing. and just like your rear flares, this has gotten me thinking a lot. but i think i'll leave mine as be, considering it's already at the shop being prepped for paint.

keep the pics coming, i have a feeling this will be my dream fiero i show everybody that thinks "fiero's suck"

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #353, 01-26-2006 03:58 PM
      Operation Rhinoplasty !

Mock up of nose flaring, which will include side vent.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 01-26-2006).]

The_Ikon MSG #354, 01-28-2006 03:08 PM
      Looking great!!!

88White3.4GT MSG #355, 01-28-2006 10:52 PM
      awesome stuff !

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #356, 01-31-2006 11:06 PM
      OOooooook Madcurl is back in Bakersfield working on #15 !

Here is the continuation of the Rhinoplasty operation ! Take notes, some very good do it yourself photo-ops here !!

The prep.

Nose cuts made.

Side of nose bowed out.

The inner lip.

A new wide track (side) !

Another shot of things being bowed out.

Shot of the underside.

Rhinoplasty complete, too dark for pics however, hopefully more tommorow.

The result,..the bottom was moved out 2.5", while the top mimmicked the work on the
upper fender.

Some good stuff !
Up next the IRM spoiler.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 01-31-2006).]

88White3.4GT MSG #357, 02-01-2006 01:41 AM
      now THAT is amazing, keep up the good work



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #358, 02-01-2006 01:40 PM
     
The latest update:


a wide angle

A side view

a view from above looking down.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #359, 02-01-2006 05:09 PM
     

Next phase involving the IRM spoiler/ operation fat lip:

Bottom

Cuts to fit



fierce_gt MSG #360, 02-01-2006 06:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

a wide angle

no pun intended right? looks amazing as usual

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #361, 02-01-2006 07:03 PM
     

Trying a new design

Test pattern

Transfer complete

Try final cuts

Final cuts

Next up fiberglassing it smooth.

fierce_gt MSG #362, 02-01-2006 08:01 PM
      interesting. although i've always been a fan of a straight edged front bumper, the angles on that one do intrigue me. look forward to more progress

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #363, 02-01-2006 08:32 PM
     

Tiding things up.

Adding 4 inches to the fender well lining.

Done

Driver's side

Checking for clearance

Man that is sweeeeeeeeeeet !!

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #364, 02-01-2006 08:42 PM
      That front chin spoiler... was it originally made up of two pieces from another bumper or something? or is it a one piece chin spoiler from fiero warehouse that you've just cut in half and then cut again to made your design?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #365, 02-01-2006 08:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

That front chin spoiler... was it originally made up of two pieces from another bumper or something? or is it a one piece chin spoiler from fiero warehouse that you've just cut in half and then cut again to made your design?

Bingo ! It was a fiero warehouse closed mouth chin spoiler. Curly had it cut in two and then had it modded to suit his tastes.

Never will you see him just bolt something on, ..he always has to tweek it and personalize it.

It will really look good when he molds it into the nose itself.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 02-01-2006).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #366, 02-03-2006 08:12 AM
      Trimmed down a bit.



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #367, 02-03-2006 04:06 PM
      Hmm yeah,

looks pretty cool, but I still prefer the chin spoiler the way it came... I'm sure when its all done it will look awesome though

FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #368, 02-03-2006 04:14 PM
      It would be awesome if we could get a full on shot fo teh wide body effect now.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #369, 02-03-2006 04:26 PM
      Thanks Tony for posting pics and keeping members up-to-date on project "Rhinoplasty" and "Phat Lip." I'm sorry I couldn't answer several peoples "PM's" because I was way too tired after working on the project on my days off.

As Tony mentioned, the project was easy to do using simple items found at your local harware store. I choose to use Aluminum cause it's light, doesn't rust, and is easy to bend to desired shape. I have some final pics. If you want I'll send Tony some final pics of the actual shape today---if you want? We went with a larger lip to "test fit" the front spoiler, but as I viewed the pics, I decided to reduce part of the lip for a more sharper look plus allowing for additional 1/2" clearance. After breaking my original IRM front spoiler three times, I don't want a repeat of the past.


I was tring to mimick the 1990 Concept Fiero's front spoiler. Right now it look's "stock" or something made from the factory. I still need some fine tuning of the part so, just like all other parts......it's in it's ruff stages.

Next, Hopefully I'll go back and install the Corvette front or rear side marker lamps in two weeks. Enjoy.

Edit: We pulled out the ends for allow for a uniform look to match the rear and IRM.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-03-2006).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #370, 02-03-2006 07:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

That front chin spoiler... was it originally made up of two pieces from another bumper or something? or is it a one piece chin spoiler from fiero warehouse that you've just cut in half and then cut again to made your design?

And it saves you some money on shipping due to the large irregular size. Since I didn't need the center piece why pay more for shipping....just cut it in half.


GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #371, 02-03-2006 08:57 PM
      Yes we want more pics ?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #372, 02-03-2006 10:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:

Yes we want more pics ?

Hehehe why did he bother even asking the question ??

Curly fire away !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 02-03-2006).]

EightBall (bandoftheburg@comcast.net) MSG #373, 02-04-2006 11:11 AM
      yeah can we get some pics of the whole car now plz

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #374, 02-04-2006 11:29 AM
      Not the whole car, but a great shot of all the new latest modifications including the hood vents, newly flared front fenders, and newly added and modified chin spoiler !

Hopefully Curly will take some full shots soon so you can take in the whole car, but so far as usual, with his projects,......he never disappoints !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 02-04-2006).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #375, 02-04-2006 01:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:

Yes we want more pics ?

Additional picks have been sent. Sorry for the poor quality picks [camera phone] & no sun shine because, it's currently raining in the Bay Area.

Imperfections: Like I stated before, the "Phat lip" is under construction and in a very ruff stages. Additional fine trimming of the exaggerated line will be straightened. The two little shiny bolts near the opening will be removed. However, the height & curviture of the "Phat Lip" is final. I haven't measured the part but, it's three fingers' width...just enough to clear most obstacles in the road using stock suspension and 25.1 diameter tires up front.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #376, 02-04-2006 11:30 PM
     
Those additional pics.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #377, 02-06-2006 12:16 AM
      Some better pics,...

The pic below shows #15 with smaller rear wheels than normal due to the weather.

madcurl took the rear rims off the silver chop top #11 for the time being because they are all weather tires, vs the summer tires that go with #15's widebody.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #378, 02-06-2006 01:37 PM
      Man! I need to get started on that rear-end. It's starting to look hideous. Forget working on the front.... I'm heading towards the back.

I'll be switching the front rim/tires to "all seasons."

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #379, 02-06-2006 02:19 PM
      madcurl,

It looks to me that you are using the front tire on the back for that last picture, right?

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #380, 02-06-2006 02:22 PM
      Chop #15 is your daily driver? What!?



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #381, 02-06-2006 03:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:

Chop #15 is your daily driver? What!?

All of my cars are "Daily Drivers." Rolling trailer Queens and Trouphy Queens isn't my thing. Just ask Songman, hehe.

For heaven sake, life is short. Drive the darn thing!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #382, 02-06-2006 03:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by THE BEAST:

madcurl,

It looks to me that you are using the front tire on the back for that last picture, right?

No. They are the same 255/30/19's. It just looks that way due to the small 275's in the back. The fronts haven't been changed over yet. The rears are from #11 chop'r. I'll change over to #11's fronts once I get around to mounting on the 235/35/19 Toyos Proxes T1's. The original 225's are currently on another chop'r. A friend of mine had a pair of brand new 235/35/19's for $150, so I couldn't pass on them.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-06-2006).]

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #383, 02-06-2006 03:30 PM
      I don't get it.. Why are you getting your car done all over the country and you live in Cali... Achies place.. Now in florda at XS Customs? Couldn't it all be done back home? Or do you require the best to touch your cars? :P Btw, put me in your will ! haha

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #384, 02-06-2006 04:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


No. They are the same 255/30/19's. It just looks that way due to the small 275's in the back. The fronts haven't been changed over yet. The rears are from #11 chop'r. I'll change over to #11's fronts once I get around to mounting on the 235/35/19 Toyos Proxes T1's. The original 225's are currently on another chop'r. A friend of mine had a pair of brand new 235/35/19's for $150, so I couldn't pass on them.

Thats good to know that you are getting the Toyo Proxes, since I was thinking about getting them for my car(T1'r), and I will like to know if you have had previous experiences with them and what do you think of them?

BTW what is the difference between the T1's and the T1'r

thanks!
JG



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #385, 02-06-2006 04:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:

I don't get it.. Why are you getting your car done all over the country and you live in Cali... Achies place.. Now in florda at XS Customs? Couldn't it all be done back home? Or do you require the best to touch your cars? :P Btw, put me in your will ! haha


It allows for me to [work] my car around various "shows." Besides, those [various venders] perform excellent work. So I have no choice but to go to [them].


Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #386, 02-06-2006 05:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
It allows for me to [work] my car around various "shows." Besides, those [various venders] perform excellent work. So I have no choice but to go to [them].


Sounds [good] there Mr. Curl. hehe


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #387, 02-06-2006 05:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by THE BEAST:

BTW what is the difference between the T1's and the T1'r

thanks!
JG

Hmm. From what I know, the T1Rs reach deeper into your wallet causing the "check light wallet" to flash. For all that they're "claiming" the T1R's should be a improved verison. http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/sports_car/

I've only used the Toyo FZ4 and T1S and between the two....it's like night and day. Haven't tried the others.

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Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #388, 02-06-2006 05:56 PM
      Here.. I got bored.

Enjoy.

88White3.4GT MSG #389, 02-08-2006 11:42 PM
      that front chin spoiler is the exact way i want to do mine after i finish up college i'll represent the bay too. hehe.



Sharkman MSG #390, 02-27-2006 06:24 PM
      This car is just amazing. Your # 11 got me hooked on choptops and this one makes me wanna get another one just for making a widebody choptop. Keep up the good work Curly. I will have some updates on my car as soon as my "new" garage is done.



Sharkman MSG #391, 03-26-2006 10:00 AM
      bump


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #392, 03-26-2006 02:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

bump


He,he. #015 will be getting a new [eye] on Monday.


Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #393, 03-27-2006 10:01 PM
      So would that be a certain c6 part that was added today?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #394, 03-28-2006 01:10 AM
     

New Retina stuck in the mail !

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #395, 03-31-2006 09:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

New Retina stuck in the mail !

Dang that's one big black eyeball, hehe.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #396, 04-01-2006 12:24 AM
      The donar parts have arrived !

Ah yes Z06 Headlamps !

Next up,........ prep for surgery !

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Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #397, 04-01-2006 12:26 AM
      SWEET!!!

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #398, 04-05-2006 04:21 PM
     

If you don't mind me asking, how much were those head lights?

JG

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #399, 04-05-2006 05:44 PM
      I believe he stated them as 800 each.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #400, 04-06-2006 11:13 AM
      shhhhhhhh,....i believe the mad doctor is preparing for surgery.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #401, 04-27-2006 02:50 AM
     
New stuff for number 15.

305 tires



P zeros even !



Spring is in the air !!








exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #402, 06-16-2006 01:18 AM
     
A picture from the past !

Madcurl in Little Rock, Arkansas on the road for Daytona 2005.



Sharkman MSG #403, 07-17-2006 05:44 PM
      BUMP



bubbajoexxx (bubbajoexx@sympatico.ca) MSG #404, 07-17-2006 05:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


New stuff for number 15.

305 tires



P zeros even !



Spring is in the air !!







if you dont mind where did you get the coil over set I have been lookin for that style spring top for some time
Thank Youi


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #405, 07-17-2006 06:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by bubbajoexxx:


if you dont mind where did you get the coil over set I have been lookin for that style spring top for some time
Thank Youi



The name of the company is A1 Racing something? I purchased them from D1S.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #406, 09-06-2006 01:18 PM
     

#015 is currently on the "back burner" for now. I have other things "cooking" right now, hehe. Oh yeah, "bump."



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #407, 09-30-2006 08:13 PM
     
#15,.... Not to be forgotten !



jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #408, 09-30-2006 08:21 PM
      I love the spoiler, I might have to make smaller one for my car

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #409, 09-30-2006 08:42 PM
     

Hey curly is that a BBQ grill i see ? What's cooking ? hehehe


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #410, 10-01-2006 09:55 PM
     

More fresh pics of #15.









exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #411, 10-02-2006 11:38 PM
      Just half of Curly's dream garage !

#15 and #11 together !





Now all he has to do is make room (in a three car garage) for #20, the Fiero Redux, and ....
.....hehehehe

Can you say stackers ??

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chopfren-z MSG #412, 10-04-2006 02:09 AM
      Man,I like that car.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #413, 10-04-2006 11:16 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by chopfren-z:

Man,I like that car.


Some of my favorite shots of the car.







I especially like this one, because i am behind the wheel !!









Smoking !!

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chopfren-z MSG #414, 10-06-2006 12:31 AM
      Looks good!!!!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #415, 10-28-2006 11:31 AM
      Some new goodies madcurl has purchased for #15.

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Newbfiero (bobby_0958@hotmail.com) MSG #416, 11-14-2006 06:04 PM
      A bump on this ..looking good and for you also exoticse .for all them pics ..Thx for sharring


Gokart Mozart MSG #417, 11-14-2006 06:15 PM
      You can tell where you've done work: it's black. Any idea when it'll be one color, if just to spray it black, or do you plan on working on those panels too?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #418, 11-14-2006 07:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:

You can tell where you've done work: it's black. Any idea when it'll be one color, if just to spray it black, or do you plan on working on those panels too?


The godfather wanted it painted red but with #020 at the shop being geared-up for the color red...#015 will mostly be painted black w/silver strips now. No need for two red choptops. #015 is currently on the back-burner and is awaiting future body modification at Trends body shop in CA but I have to pick-up the Redux first since it has the items I need.


GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #419, 11-16-2006 03:36 PM
      Hey what's wrong with blood red ? LOL

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #420, 11-16-2006 05:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:

Hey what's wrong with blood red ? LOL


Nothing but, it's against CA's paint laws. Only one red car per household


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #421, 11-16-2006 11:00 PM
     

Oh yes !

New customized head unit flush mounting kit.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #422, 11-18-2006 02:16 PM
      I Gave Marty a call @ PISA today. I finally got around to ordering the Euro front radio piece since Jerry somehow didn't have enough time to finish the [original] job. The PISA Euro console comes in three sections----computer, arm rest, and the radio part. No need to make one from scratch, right? I only need the radio section and he had one already made. Now I have a winter project, hehe.

pic of the unfinished job (notice the radio area)...

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #423, 12-09-2006 06:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

I Gave Marty a call @ PISA today. I finally got around to ordering the Euro front radio piece since Jerry somehow didn't have enough time to finish the [original] job. The PISA Euro console comes in three sections----computer, arm rest, and the radio part. No need to make one from scratch, right? I only need the radio section and he had one already made. Now I have a winter project, hehe.

pic of the unfinished job (notice the radio area)...



The pics !









exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #424, 12-10-2006 09:18 PM
     

a Bump to bring all the madness (his threads) together.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #425, 12-24-2006 08:54 AM
     

AC DC



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #426, 02-25-2007 01:03 PM
      bump!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #427, 03-20-2007 02:09 AM
     

some small updates.









madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #428, 03-20-2007 11:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Some small updates.



Yes. "Some very small updates." These are the C6 side marker lamps from D5. I have both the fronts too, but I never got around to installing them (busy, very cold weather, and #020 get n' in the way). These C6's will be the ones applied for the mad-arches wide-body at Archie's. The angle is a little bit off and should be pitched downward a little but, you get the general idea as to where it's location. #015 will be headed back to Machessney Park later on this year for some newer and better ideas than #020 and "Archie and the Crew" are the person(s) to do it.


jscott1 MSG #429, 03-20-2007 01:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

. #015 will be headed back to Machessney Park later on this year for some newer and better ideas than #020 and "Archie and the Crew" are the person(s) to do it.


Of all your rides, #15 is my personal favorite...maybe because it's the only one I have met personally.


Kaleb (kzeringue@troy.edu) MSG #430, 04-04-2007 09:20 PM
      hey curly whens #15 gonna get paint.. im anxious to see what this thing looks like finished off---do you have some more ideas for it or is it about wrapped up? do ya have a color picked out yet?


-Kaleb


87FieroGTx (jeremeyallen@gmail.com) MSG #431, 04-04-2007 10:52 PM
      Best. Fiero. Ever.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #432, 04-06-2007 06:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kaleb:

hey curly whens #15 gonna get paint.. im anxious to see what this thing looks like finished off---do you have some more ideas for it or is it about wrapped up? do ya have a color picked out yet?


-Kaleb


Yes. I have a few more ideas since my visit with Archie. So no painting anytime soon. What started off as a "idea" for #020 from #015...now will be duplicated onto #015. Does that makes sence? What Archie and I have found is this.

Moving the c-pillers inward creats a very aggressive stance or JLo hips. I've also found that by adding wrecked rear clips you also creat a nice flowing piller. #015 will be headed back to Machessney Park to pay a visit with his younger brother #020.

Oh yeah. Bump for a local Floridan, hehe. Turn to this page for ideas: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/046552-9.html

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FierociousGT MSG #433, 04-06-2007 07:04 PM
     

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #434, 04-12-2007 01:14 PM
     


Curly when all your cars are finished (yeah i know, no such word hehehe) i wish you could take them all to some big GM sponsored show or event so some execs could get an eyeball !


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #435, 05-16-2007 04:14 AM
     


Shhhh,... the mad chef is cooking.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #436, 05-27-2007 12:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Shhhh,... the mad chef is cooking.


I recieved several "Boxes" this past week for #015. Here's one of those boxes, hehe.






madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #437, 05-29-2007 12:54 PM
      A friendly visit to the local Dodge, "Parts Department."


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #438, 05-29-2007 07:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

A friendly visit to the local Dodge, "Parts Department."



Pardon me please, as I "Reboot" this thread....





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #439, 06-07-2007 01:49 AM
      More hardware arrived this week. #015 hasen't been forgotten.

Sharkman MSG #440, 06-07-2007 01:56 AM
      Have you mounted any of the parts yet?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #441, 06-09-2007 01:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Have you mounted any of the parts yet?



Yes. The boot and bezels are on and the rt front rotor is off the car, ready for chroming. HRE wheels were shipped to HRE for super polishing, painting and backside correction. Part of the central hub was, "Buggered up"---so thats being addressed.


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #442, 06-09-2007 09:40 PM
      2" lip




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FierociousGT MSG #443, 06-10-2007 10:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Yes. The boot and bezels are on and the rt front rotor is off the car, ready for chroming. HRE wheels were shipped to HRE for super polishing, painting and backside correction. Part of the central hub was, "Buggered up"---so thats being addressed.


Please explain the back space correction. I'm understanding you are re adjusting the offset to the fender. If this is the case I thought you built the widebody to the wheel width?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #444, 06-10-2007 11:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:


Please explain the back space correction. I'm understanding you are re adjusting the offset to the fender. If this is the case I thought you built the widebody to the wheel width?


This set of HRE rims were not built by Curly or for one of his cars, he purchased them from someone as a spare set of HRE's and is now tweaking them to fit #15. A spare set of HRE's ya gota love it!!!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #445, 06-10-2007 12:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:


Please explain the back space correction. I'm understanding you are re adjusting the offset to the fender. If this is the case I thought you built the widebody to the wheel width?



Yes. As Troy mentioned, this set of HRE's are spares. This set was on Ebay back several years ago and where made to fit a Celica 5x100 bolt pattern. So why the needed adjustments? The bolt pattern is correct but it's the hub or the center that is "buggered-up." Apparently someone wanted them to fit and they bored-out some portion of the hub so that the wheel would fit "flush" on the rotor.

I had informed HRE (Vince) about my concerns and he stated, "We can correct the problem and any other adjustment if needed." Vince went into the "Archives" and found my various off-sets and compared the differences. We found that the Ebay rims are 32mm off-set based upon the old "log's" they have on file and the reference number stamped on the backside of every rim that HRE makes.

Vince will give me a call on Monday regarding the status which should take about 1-2 weeks for correction. Cost? $100 buck for labor, $100 buck for stripping of old silver center piece and repainting the 3rd center piece "High Gloss Black," & $100 buck for "High Polishing the 2nd piece (the ugly back-side) with a clear coat------totalling $300 x 2 = $600 buckeroos!

The 3rd piece polishing & clear coat ($200) is for the needed "pop." HRE suggested polishing vs. chroming due to the weight factor. The 1st piece (2" lip) was in pretty good condition with very minor scratches and a quick polish will fix those issues. As you perhaps know, the HRE (R) series rims weigh more than the old style due to it's increased lenght of the 5-star arms to achive the "Flat" surface. Whereas #011 and #020 rims are lighter due to its rounded second lip which reduces the lenght of the 5-star arms.


[example of 3.5" lip---547 non (R) old style)
#a - Black Center (w/chrome trim bolts)


547 (R) Series with extended 5-star arms and 2" flat lip:



Mind Playn' tricks on ya? I measured the two rims and found that the distance between the lip and where the extended arms are the same dispite both rims being 1-inch difference in diameter. Visually both rims appear to be the same in size. I plan on mounting 245/35's for the fronts, the same size that the Ferrari uses.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #446, 06-10-2007 01:01 PM
      #015 will sport 20x12.5 or 20x13 wrapped in 345/25/20's (Dubs) using a different off-set since there is more clearance on a 88 vs. 84-87 suspension. This may result in a over-all lip of 6". The 345's have been waiting in the wings for nearly 2-yrs for it's moment to "Pop" and to give the Arch Rival a "Ugly Ego" dualing.

Pipe dream conclusions of the 20x13 for #015's "Ugly Ego":


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PontiacJ829 (pontiacj8@hotmail.com) MSG #447, 06-10-2007 09:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

#015 will sport 20x12.5 or 20x13 wrapped in 345/25/20's (Dubs) using a different off-set since there is more clearance on a 88 vs. 84-87 suspension. This may result in a over-all lip of 6".



Holy Poop!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #448, 06-13-2007 11:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:


Please explain the back space correction. I'm





As you can see from this pic, the backside is/was "buggered-up" and HRE is correction this using a CNC machine at "no cost." The center bore will be drilled to 2.252 (stock Fiero). However, the center or 3-piece is costing me $180 per wheel and not $100 bucks per wheel. It's nearly double the cost due to the stripping and repainting the center piece. On the other hand, the 547(R) rims normally cost between $1600-1800 so I save a few bucks.


 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:

I'm understanding you are re adjusting the offset to the fender. If this is the case I thought you built the widebody to the wheel width?

It seems to be pretty close to lining up as the 19x9's?

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #449, 06-14-2007 12:57 PM
      I just recieved a phone call from HRE and although the rims have different inners and outers....both applications are the same as for sticking away from the fender. He asked me if I wanted to change out the inner 6.5" to a 7" making it a 9" rim and I said thats alright. HRE did thrown in some stainless steal fasteners which are lighter vs. the chromed steal ones for free...I said go ahead. At 23 pounds the 547R needs to loose some weight. It should take 1-2 wks for completion.

23 Pounder:







#011's test fit....too wide.



Edit: for 15x5 weights

I don't know the actual Fiero rim weight, but I have some shop rollers here using a 205R/60/15, 15x7. Tire tire is somehow of a may-pop with little tread life so the weights may vary, hehe.





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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #450, 07-08-2007 12:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

rethinking old original idea: not a true representation of me thinking, but you get the ideal.





Last Friday I recieved a call from Vince @ HRE...the blacked two inched lipped 547R beauties are finished! Vince was suprised when he viewed the rims prior to boxing them. He said, "I had to ask the polisher..was the inners chromed?" The Polisher guy said, "No. The inners are polsihed with a clear coat." Vince continued to inform me that the power coated centers are nicely coated with a high gloss shine, the outers are highly polished, and the (buggered-up) backside is now like "new" and you can't tell if the rim is or isn't new. The finished product should look similar to the pic above but, with a highly polished inners.

We are now working on a set of 20x12.5 using the same back spacing found on #011 chopper. The "key" is too allow for switching between both the Arch Rival and #015 vehicals w/o having to modify #020. 20x13 would no doubt be an issue in this case, however it isn't an issue using #015 since it's a 88.

I should have some pics in few days using the "Chrome Dome" hats using the C5 rotors. The results should be similar to #011 Ryan Chrome Domes. I even had my work cars' rotors... chrome-domed, hehe. Darn salty air here in the Bay Area causes rust to appear everwhere!!! #015 isn't out of the game yet and well soon sport some newer and radical ideas vs. the Arch Rival. Stay Tuned.

Oh yeah, ...


Due to the width of the widebody leading to impaired side view vison:


I got my eyes on a pair 430's!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #451, 07-19-2007 12:01 PM
     

An exciting delivery for #15 arriving via the little brown truck !



Hmmm,...i wonder just what could it be ??



Let's take a closer look,...



HRE !?!!! Yes, yes, yes !!!




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #452, 07-19-2007 12:09 PM
     

Would anybody like to see more ??


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #453, 07-19-2007 01:15 PM
      Hehehe ok enough fooling around, here ya go !

Blackend face.



Signature center caps



Polished clear coat inner



How about some Pzero tires.



HRE rims and Pzero Tires together.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #454, 07-21-2007 01:28 PM
      Thanks Tony for posting the pics. Last Thursday was a very busy day. Besides, the tire/rim arriving, I mounted the Dakata Digital tire gauge monitor system. I tested the "system" and it seemed to be working properly. On Friday, I headed down the PE Motoring to let Hector mount those puppies and while on my way down, I stopped at AC Plating to pick up the Chromed passenger side Corvette rotor. I decided to not ship the Modena 360 to Archie since it was "buggered-up", so I dropped it off at Trendzs for beautification. I handed the 360 mirror to Joe (owner) and told him "Don't misplace or loose it." Joe told me, "It should be ready on Tuesday" (I've heard this before so I'll be back in two weeks, hehe). Okay, back to the tire shop.

The chromed hat rotor needed resurfacing, which wasn't a problem, however I was worried about the rim's inner polished clear coated finish. PE Motoring recently installed a 7k tire mounting unit to handle painted rims and DUB rims; still I was holding my testicles while Hector and his help started mounting. Before the process, we had a walk through, going over all of the things needed.

Since the inners are painted; we couldn't use the three inner rollers used to hold the rim so we used the traditional mounting points that grip the outside of the inner lip. To prevent damage to the lip we used a plastic lip/sleeve for the mounting point to grip the inner lip. Besides worring about the finish, we still needed to be mindful of the Dakota's tire mounting guage...geezs! 15-minutes later... it was done w/o any issues. I don't smoke, but I think I needed one.

Later on at home, I finally mounted the rotors and rims. Just like #011's rotors...IMO it's a beautiful combination using the chrome hats as a backdrop vs. the rusty ole' ones. I sent Tony a few pics.


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #455, 07-21-2007 02:42 PM
      I don't even want to know how much those cost you... ok maybe I do a little.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #456, 07-21-2007 03:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

I don't even want to know how much those cost you... ok maybe I do a little.




The price was public knowledge on Ebay and nobody wanted them, so I bought them for $700 bucks +s/h $50. This set I purchased was on Ebay in 2002-3 for $1900 buckeroos. If you happen to find a set that is "buggered-up"...send them to HRE for beautification.


88 Obsession MSG #457, 07-31-2007 12:20 AM
      AWESOME CHOP!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #458, 08-05-2007 03:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 88 Obsession:

AWESOME CHOP!



Thanks for the compliment.


My front driver's side rotor wasn't completed at the chrome shop, however my other 245 Pzero tire arrived last Friday (Aug3rd). I decided to wait until the chrome shop complets the work before I have the tire/rim mounted. Before then I can unbolt the rear rotor and repeat the process; this prevents a mix-up. D1S is very picky with whats in the front, in back, or on either side.

It was a lazy (me) week; working around the house, dealing with contractors, and my gardener.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #459, 08-19-2007 02:07 PM
      The left side Corvette 13" chromed rotor finally was completed last Friday, but I misplaced my digital camera slim card with the good pics. I still need to mount the 245 on the rim, shave the excess copper and chrome from the rotor, and lower the front end for a visual. Later, I can focus my attention on the rears.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #460, 09-19-2007 12:37 PM
      I finally got around to picking up one of my 13" Corvette rotors from the chrome shop. Just like #011, I wasn't a happy camper while viewing those ugly rusted out hats. The salty air in the Bay Area can cause rust to appear in seconds!












The process begins with them masking off the surface area prior to plating. Next, I head straight to P.E. Motoring for skinning or resurfacing the rotor. I'm doing one rotor at a time since D1S is very specific to which rotor (front and rear, lt to rt) and brake goes where.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #461, 09-19-2007 01:32 PM
      Testing 547 on #015 and later to be mounted onto #020:










Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #462, 09-19-2007 01:34 PM
      #11 your silver car
#15 this car
#20 the arch rival?
then theres the redux? so you have 4 choppers? All your cars seem to have the same rims and I get confused easy haha


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #463, 09-19-2007 01:38 PM
     
Chromed hats w/13" Corvette rotors:






fiero go fast (dday98m@gmail.com) MSG #464, 09-19-2007 01:58 PM
      Madcurl, what brakekit are you using or is that your own creation?

Matt


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #465, 09-19-2007 02:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr.PBody:

#11 your silver car
#15 this car
#20 the arch rival?
then theres the redux? so you have 4 choppers? All your cars seem to have the same rims and I get confused easy haha


My personal preference is the 547s to which all wide bodies The Redux, #020, and #015 the 547s are enter changeable. Only #011s 547s are truly meant for this vehicle only. The Redux is a bubble top (for now).

 
quote
Originally posted by fiero go fast:

Madcurl, what brake kit are you using or is that your own creation?

Matt


The brake system isn't my creation but is Design 1 Systems from Oklahoma. It's the same system that Troyboy is using on his chopper (#022).

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #466, 09-20-2007 05:41 PM
      The Man in the Mirror? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...eZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

I'll be heading to Trendzs this week, hehe.


MclarenF1 (poopoomagoo1@hotmail.com) MSG #467, 09-20-2007 09:58 PM
      I'd buy that F430 bumper and get a mold from it. Mold it into a non-bumperpad coupe nose. That would be sweet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...gicX&refwidgettype=c ross_promot_widget



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #468, 10-09-2007 02:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

I'll be heading to Trendzs this week, hehe.



Yeah baby,


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #469, 10-17-2007 03:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Yeah baby,


I picked up the F430 mirror from Trendzs. Trendzs did a very good job at fixing the upper end corner of the mirror and it looks like "new" @ $60 bucks. Now I'm waiting on Archie and the Crew to send me the mounting tri-piece.
sorry, I forgot to take pics.

The 20x13 ordered and should arrive in 4-6 weeks just in time before old' Turkey day



38mm off-set, high polished clear coated 8"inners/ high polished 5" outer barrels, & .07 pad height (center piece). #020 is nice, but it's time to move too better projects.

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jscott1 MSG #470, 10-17-2007 06:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


The brake system isn't my creation but is Design 1 Systems from Oklahoma. It's the same system that Troyboy is using on his chopper (#022).



Very nice but you might want to consider 15" brakes behind those wheels.





FierociousGT MSG #471, 10-17-2007 06:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
I picked up the F430 mirror from Trendzs. Trendzs did a very good job at fixing the upper end corner of the mirror and it looks like "new" @ $60 bucks. Now I'm waiting on Archie and the Crew to send me the mounting tri-piece.
sorry, I forgot to take pics.


Curly are you going to mount the tri-piece yourself? Judging by the number of hours to install it's seems like a LOT of work (welding, etc)...

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #472, 10-17-2007 07:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


Very nice but you might want to consider 15" brakes behind those wheels.




Nah, I'm sticking with the original game plan; the Corvette 13/13 ZO6 brake combo. With the 13" up front I'll be able to clear using the 19s. 15" rotors would kill my shop roller applications.

 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:


Curly are you going to mount the tri-piece yourself? Judging by the number of hours to install it's seems like a LOT of work (welding, etc)...



I'll let Trendzs perform the task. Archie informed me that it was the plastic tri piece was hard to remove and was never intended to be replaced or removed. I'll pry on it until it comes loose and have them weld the piece onto the car.

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #473, 10-17-2007 11:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Now I'm waiting on Archie and the Crew to send me the mounting tri-piece.



We have the triangle parts to mount the mirrors on but it's not a bolt on thing.

The brackets actually weld to the door frame but there's a lot more involved.

I show you what we are doing on Troy's car, it's virtually identical to what we did on your #20.

Here they are welded onto the door frame. The Mirror & the plastic triangle piece around the mirror will attach to this metal triangle pc.





This triangle is kinda hollowed out thru the center & rolled up on the outside edge to match the mounting surface of the mirror.



The original Fiero mirror mounting pad on the door frame has to be cut out......



A new pc. of metal welded in so the door panel will fit over this area. This new metal will have to be used because the old mirror mounting bolts also doubled as the mounting for the forward end of the dew wipe. So that this will not look incomplete when finished, we need to secure the front end of the dew wipe. We'll do that by installing 2 flat head allen cap screws from the outside & nuts on the inside to secure the dew wipe.



The door panel has to be cutout for the bottom edge of the mirror & the edge of the cut has to be filled in so that after being sanded will meet right up to the edge of the mirror so it'll look like it belongs there. The only mirror hole in the door panel will also have to be finished to a flat smooth blended finish to match the rest of the door.



Archie

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #474, 10-18-2007 12:31 PM
      Thanks Archie for the detailed instruction using the F430 & F360/Fiero mirrors application. I'll give you a call this week regarding the price and shipping.

One question. What happened to the rubber upper corner piece? Is this piece still useable?

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #475, 10-18-2007 04:56 PM
     


Just when it seemed like Curly has just about topped everything, ...he's doing it again !

Look out, this is going to get really crazy !


slinger MSG #476, 10-18-2007 11:53 PM
      do i even want to know what you guys do for a living? your building things i olny dream about.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #477, 11-13-2007 12:57 AM
      The rear rotor chromed, skinned, and ready to roll..

13" Corvette rotor @ 18 pounds compared to Bear's front rotors @ 13.5 pound.




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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #478, 11-13-2007 01:28 AM
      #015: Its time to get back on it and finish the lower radio bezel fiberglassing. Geezs, this has been a long 2yr snooze! Notice the dust, hehe.










madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #479, 11-13-2007 01:31 AM
      The bubble-top files: #015 in rare form.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #480, 11-13-2007 01:42 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

The 20x13 ordered and should arrive in 4-6 weeks just in time before old' Turkey day



38mm off-set, high polished clear coated 8"inners/ high polished 5" outer barrels, & .07 pad height (center piece). #020 is nice, but it's time to move too better projects.




The Blackened rear DUBS should arrive this week or right before Turkey day...now we're cookin'



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #481, 11-14-2007 07:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

The Blackened rear DUBS should arrive this week or right before Turkey day...now we're cookin'



I just got off the phone with HRE and the inner barrel and center piece is being powder coated and the ETA is Nov 26th or earlier.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #482, 11-21-2007 04:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
I just got off the phone with HRE and the inner barrel and center piece is being powder coated and the ETA is Nov 26th or earlier.



Oh well, the HRE will be here next week. Turkey, dressing, sweet potatoe pie, and rims....that's a little too much for ones eyes.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #483, 11-28-2007 05:19 PM
      The blackened 547 DUBs arrived today.
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Only one problem....I wasn't there to sign for them!

Last week would have been perfect since I was off. I now need to take off from work early enough to sign for them or just wait until I'm off. I think I'll just wait.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #484, 12-02-2007 03:07 PM
      NRG. http://www.getnrg.com/

I picked it up last week and I can't wait to install it! I purchased the "short" THIN quick release @ 1.25".

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leppy_89 (casey.ryan89@gmail.com) MSG #485, 12-07-2007 06:55 PM
      Madcurl...you are a horrible influence.

I've had my Fiero for less than a week, and in the span of a half an hour,

you've already got me wanting to spend all my cash on this thing.

Haha, absolutely beautiful car.

And its great, because your silver chop, #11 was it?, looks almost identical to mine...just a little bit shorter.

Ahh to dream.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #486, 12-09-2007 12:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by leppy_89:

Madcurl...you are a horrible influence.

I've had my Fiero for less than a week, and in the span of a half an hour, you've already got me wanting to spend all my cash on this thing.




Yes, I've heard that from others too, hehe.

BTW, The blackened 547 DUBs arrived last week and boy those suckers look great on #015. I nearly fainted, hehe. The polished lips are blinding! Pics in a few minutes.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #487, 12-11-2007 08:18 PM
      How many guys does it take to mount a 345/25/20? One, two, or three guys? Geezs, after seeing them lobe-up the rim, you'd think they'd gang raped my rim.

85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #488, 12-12-2007 01:19 PM
      Where are the pictures ?

Can you please post some.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #489, 12-12-2007 01:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Where are the pictures ?

Can you please post some.


We're working on it. Darn firewall protection is preventing me from sending out pics....arrgh!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #490, 12-12-2007 09:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Where are the pictures ?

Can you please post some.










HRE 547R 5x100, 5" fully polished outer barrel, 7" fully polished/clear coated inner barrel, +5 off-set (made specially for #015 choptop 88 Fiero).

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88White3.4GT MSG #491, 12-12-2007 11:38 PM
     


Those are awesome



85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #492, 12-12-2007 11:51 PM
      Wow.... those are very nice

thanks for posting the pics


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #493, 12-13-2007 07:01 PM
      Backside views and things; HRE 20x12 with stainless steel fastners and fully polished/clear coated inner barrels.



Stainlees steel fasteners and hardware: Notice the nearly unnoticable valve stem caps on front views. After many thieves stealing my caps over the yrs...they now have to look very, very hard for them!


Backside polished/clear coated (I've learned my lesson over the yrs...painted centers/clear coated inners = less elbow work

Notice the amount of weight reduction by the triangular cut-outs on the backside mounting surface.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #494, 12-13-2007 08:02 PM
      Test Fit: Even though Vince (HRE) and I went of the specs 1,000xs, we're still not 100% correct until the rim is on the vehical. According to HRE, if you mount them (tire and rim), you own them!

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #495, 12-13-2007 08:15 PM
      The weight: Full disclosure

HRE 20x12 is morbidly phat @ 31 pounds!



HRE w/345, Tire senser, and added counter balance weight. WoW!

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Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #496, 12-14-2007 12:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

The weight: Full disclosure

HRE 20x12 is morbidly phat @ 31 pounds!



Dubs FTW! Mine are 30 on the nose.. Sigh.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #497, 12-14-2007 11:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:


Dubs FTW! Mine are 30 on the nose.. Sigh.




Yeah, the darn rims were too phat for the scale being used so I had to use two metal rods (@ each end) to hold it onto the scale. I'll weigh both the tire and rim later, but here are a few tire/rim weights.

This is a 18x7 3-piece Niche Pultec (non chrome) painted center aluminum rim wrapped by a 225/40/18 Toyo @ 44.5 pounds.



Old fronts prior to change. 18x8.5

23 Pounder: I need to go back and weigh both the tire and rim.




#011

235/35/19 on a 19x8.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #498, 12-14-2007 02:29 PM
      P/Rosso: 345/25/20

Originally purchased and stored: June 04.




Finally, I'm ready to move forward!


Isn't strange how a old idea (from a old thread) is being finalized; aided by Troy and Leroy.

The 20x11 Thread (11/4/2003): would it work?
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/035277.html


The Redux thread (11/14/2004): Semi wide, but not wide enough, but lead to #015 being made. The making of a homebrew widebody. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/037188-3.html


Who'd knew we'd have a widebody kit years later? Widebody kit thread: 2/16/2007 http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064001.html

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #499, 12-14-2007 02:53 PM
      Dakota Digital's air sensor (mounted): Ready to Roll.


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InTheLead MSG #500, 12-14-2007 06:45 PM
      I feel bad for your transmission!

Those are gorgeous..


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #501, 12-14-2007 08:19 PM
      Getting mounted: The most nervous event known to man.

Notice the yellow plastic tip extensions that hold the rim in place.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #502, 12-15-2007 07:39 PM
      Weights continued:

A 19x7.5, 245/35/19 Nitto Neo-Gen;

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #503, 12-16-2007 03:04 AM
      Shop 1:
My guys I go to for mounting my boys.


conclusion, my guys couldn't mount the 345, but I kinda knew that so I got my 245s mounted


I used a plastic rim lip protector since my guy's machine didn't have one.

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diabloscott (swoodard23@sbcglobal.net) MSG #504, 12-16-2007 05:10 PM
      You should fid a shop that will mount those tires quicker so we can hurry up and see how great they look on your car.
Scott


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #505, 12-16-2007 07:39 PM
      Shop 2: The shop recommened by HRE




;conclusion, they couldn't mount the 345, but I did get a wheel alignment.

The machine


Yellow Clamps


The guys...two of them.

Now three of them....what tha???



This is me before I blow-up while five guys are trying to mount these puppies! I didn't take a pic of five guys molesting my rim with some KY-Lube-jelly.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #506, 12-16-2007 08:04 PM
      During my stay at Big Johns, I took a pic.


Nice big rims, but they couldn't mount a 345...duh!

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #507, 12-17-2007 12:34 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by diabloscott:

You should fid a shop that will mount those tires quicker so we can hurry up and see how great they look on your car.
Scott

After 5- guys molesting the 547 with enough lube to grease a 800 pound gorilla, I was ready to blow steam!


This is me leaving Big John's w/o the tires being mounted. Didn't I mentined that this was round II? Round I was the first shop the day earlier. It's all good. I got my work car's wheels alighned and I called HRE and they said if I F1 Motorsport can't mount the tires...they will mount them for me free of charge.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #508, 12-18-2007 03:55 PM
      Round III: I'm leaving for F1 Motorsports with the 345s; mounted this time I hope!

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SAFASTRO MSG #509, 12-18-2007 03:58 PM
      Good luck!!!!
We hope so too!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #510, 12-25-2007 12:15 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Round III: I'm leaving for F1 Motorsports with the 345s; mounted this time I hope!



On last Wednesday I headed out to F1MotorSports in North Hollywood better known as "Wheel paradise" and I was in heaven, hehe. Lots of pics of DUBs on Ferraris, Mercedes, and BMW.

DUBs inside the convertable to F1:


The place:


Notice the orange DUBs:


The Subjects:


Minor distractions: F430 mirrors and rear vents.....hmm?




Minor distractions continued:


Frontal distractions:

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timwdegner MSG #511, 12-25-2007 12:20 AM
      Well what's the news?! Did you get a nice Christmas present in the form of mounted tires?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #512, 12-25-2007 01:20 AM
      A blackened Mercedes DUB: Reminds me of I wanted #020 too look like all batmanish...those Hollywood guys, hehe.




It took me nearly 20-30 minutes for the tires to be mounted, during which I took many pics of items I thought were a good modifications for a choptop Fiero.


14" Brembo ; on a SUV.


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #513, 12-25-2007 01:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by timwdegner:

Well what's the news?! Did you get a nice Christmas present in the form of mounted tires?


Well...yes. I thought since I was going to North Hollywood were the Celebs hang out, one would think they had some type of unique machine to mount the DUBs.....I guess not. Oh well, but it looks stupid too me. What tha!!!


As one dude stands on the rubber another guy lubes the barrels. These yellow clamps prevent damage to the outer lip.



The black clamp use used to aid in clamping a section of the tire; thus preventing the lip from popping out while the tire is being rotatated. Prior two shops didn't have such a tool.


Once the 345 is on, now comes the hard part; moving the outter rubber towards the outter rim lip. This is difficult due to the R-series barrel design.


The use of high pressure air to "pop" the outer rubber lip towards the outer rim lip....almost there.



They will use the tire separator (a.k.a the Claw) to push the outter tire lip.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #514, 12-25-2007 02:26 AM
      Time out: While the crew was mounting the tires, I decided to take another view of the F430 rear deck vents: Hmm?



F430 front side vents...nice!


I like how the rear side window flares upward.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #515, 12-25-2007 02:58 AM
      Specs and clearance on a 1988 Fiero stock suspension:



Strut tower clearance; note I haven't installed the coil-over yet, but I do have clearance using a 20x12...interesting.


Shock clearance:

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #516, 12-25-2007 11:34 AM
      Two weeks earlier:; clearance checks:


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #517, 12-25-2007 02:41 PM
      Distractions continued: F430 deck vents.








Check list:
1. F430 side mirror....check
2. F430 headlamps...?
3. F430 diffuser...?

Moving right along: #020 upper hood shape. It needs some curviture, hehe.

Example A: F430 window/hood curve.


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #518, 12-25-2007 03:03 PM
      I do believe I purchased a set of these talilamps, hehe. I wonder if they would work on a widebody notchback?



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #519, 12-25-2007 03:28 PM
      Distractions continued: Oh my, my, my...it's those Mayas!

A very, very nice rim and was one of my choices some time ago. I'm glad I didn't purchase them now, especially after talking one of the sells persons. Although a 3-piece rim, the section is welded and sealed together making a damage rim very expensive to fit. Granted, I didn't weigh the rim , but I did lift one and they're heavy.





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #520, 12-25-2007 03:33 PM
      It seems to be the general Hollywood style now. Rims that are blackened out....yeah, that Batman theme.









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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #521, 12-25-2007 03:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by SAFASTRO:

Good luck!!!!
We hope so too!



During my DUB visit, somebody else was getting his DUBs installed on his "expensive" ride. We talked for several hours regarding rims/engine/cars and even #020. I got the okay by him too, but I forgot to get the thumbs-up pic...darn it! Anyway, he did view the pics Archie had posted and he liked it.





Fabio's V12. From what he told me, it's around 700HP and very quiet too.


He's rollin on DUBs on all corners (305/25/20 R & 255/30/20 F). He was at the shop to re-install the rims since Fabio had hit some pot holes and bent all (3) rims. He said that the air sensor system on the Mercedes is around 7k, which made my Dakota Digital air system seem cheap, hehe. I mentioned to him that the Lion hart wheels were one of my choices, but they didn't flow with my car's theme.


#020 Lion Hart rim test: 10/22/05


Meanwhile, there's trouble in Paradise. Shop #2 scratched my rim! It's on the inner side of the lip so it won't show.



Troubles continued: While airing up one of the rims, they accidently broke the valve stem,...aaahhh!






Problem solved: They had replacements.


Tire on:

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #522, 12-26-2007 01:20 AM
      Distractions continued: G35 tricked out. Nice orange paint job. Alexfierowidebody,Troy or 4.9 style.

The carbon fiber trunk lid isn't real, but is actually layered in some fashion. The shop mentioned they can perform the same process on many surfaces.

I liked the color of the car, but the orange rims..I wasn't feeling it. I think a black center would have been a better choice.


I like how the black carbon broke-up the orange paint job, like this front lip spoiler. The black accents might be a option instead of painting the entire Fiero orange color IMO.


This DUB was on the black F430 conv. I think the tire size is 335? But it is a 20"

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doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #523, 12-26-2007 01:42 PM
      Any more pictures of that G35? Like the whole car?



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #524, 12-26-2007 01:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Any more pictures of that G35? Like the whole car?




I couldn't, because the G35 was inside of booth with limited side room while the guy was getting a interior/stereo upgrade, but I was able to take a frontal pic.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #525, 12-26-2007 09:11 PM
      DUBS: BMW in need of a good wash, but the rims....priceless.


295/25/22 R

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #526, 12-26-2007 11:08 PM
      Curly when is #15 getting rimmed up ?

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #527, 01-07-2008 02:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Curly when is #15 getting rimmed up ?



Bump


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #528, 01-07-2008 05:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Bump



Trouble in Paradise: Round freckin III continued.

I've been on a two week vacation, trying to enjoy life outside the Fiero world (I know it's hard to believe, but it can be done).

Anyway, my outcome with F1 Motorsport wasn't what I was expected. Did they mount the tires? Yes. However, they broke the valve stems ( I mentioned that already) plus my $200 dollor digital air sensors....yeah not one, but two of them and let me not forget, they scratched my rims. As you can see from the previous pics, I documented everthing leaving them little room to weasel out of it!

Between my blackouts, I was on the phone with HRE airing my anger. This is HRE response:

Hello Curley & Steve.......
>
> Attached is HRE Repair Invoice ***** for 2ea. 547R
> 20" wheels w/ tires & sensors to be shipped to HRE
> per Mounting & Balancing....
>
> I have cc'd our shipping department to make
> arrangements per Pick UP @ F1 Motorosports &
> Delivery to HRE of your 20" wheels & Tires....
>
> Could you box & label the wheels with Return # *****
> for our reference, I will have our shipping dept.
> fax the call tag information & instructions.....
>
>
> HRE Shipping Dept. Pick & Delivery w/ Cal Overnight


Conclusion: HRE made good on their promise. S&R, mounting & balance, and rebuffing of rims..all free of charge.

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HC MSG #529, 01-07-2008 10:51 PM
     

Aww man, that really sucks!! Good thing they are going to fix this for ya, I can't wait to see the progress!! Faster!!


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #530, 01-16-2008 01:34 AM
     


Update ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #531, 01-16-2008 03:00 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Update ?


The 547s will be delivered this week and some good news from HRE regarding the rims.

Hello Curley,
"We will not need to redo the inner
polish clear finish after all....the peeling finish was actually clear
tape applied to the inside which misled me to think the clear had an
issue. Powder Clear usually does not peel. I have attached your revised
invoice & will proceed with cleaning the outer finish polish + M&B."

I forgot to remove the clear tape prior to mounting the tires. Oh well, that clear tape saved my inner rim finish. I also talked to a shipper on Monday about towing one of my choppers out to Archie's for the 25th.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #532, 01-18-2008 01:02 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Update ?



I got a call from HRE today and a email:
"I am pushing to ship today or Friday!!!!

I will contact you once ready."

HRE PERFORMANCE WHEELS


007 MSG #533, 01-19-2008 10:36 PM
      Wow!!! I'm trying to catch up on people's progress here on the forum, it has been awhile. Good to see it will all work out. How is the progress on your other rides? I was thinking of a mad creation myself. Hopefully soon I can share in the dream with the rest of you. Continued good luck to you.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #534, 01-20-2008 12:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 007:

Wow!!! I'm trying to catch up on people's progress here on the forum, it has been awhile. Good to see it will all work out. How is the progress on your other rides? I was thinking of a mad creation myself. Hopefully soon I can share in the dream with the rest of you. Continued good luck to you.


Yeah, HRE kept their promise in peformed the 345 installs (free of charge and shipping). No pics of the process, but the guys did mentioned they needed to have a smoke right after man-handling the massive rollors. I think in the future I'll bypass the 345 and get the 325s. As for the rundown on the other projects, I'm experiencing battery issues with both choptops even though the battery is disconnected. No problem since Auto Store replaced one of them free of charge ($80); I'm awaiting a new replacement on #015 since it's a newer battery than #011.

The last time #015 battery went out was on my trip back from FL in 2005 or so.

#011; new battery, re-install custom dash, and chrome pieces.
#015; needs a new battery, removing old fuel lines, newer style headlamps, and now DUB installs.
#020; awaiting mock-up for C6 flipper.
The Redux; on major back order and is currently parked w/car cover.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #535, 01-31-2008 03:28 PM
      It's time to get busy!


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #536, 01-31-2008 04:37 PM
      Testing for possible issues using stock suspension; conclusion-none.



Using 345 rubbers on 12" there is no interference; as was noted on #013 and #022.



Now onto removing the jack stands for visuals.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #537, 02-01-2008 01:20 AM
      I'll have digital pics on Friday, right now these are the ole' camera pics, hehe.

I got the rims, lowered the chopper, and found no issues. I had spent most of my time cleaning part of the garage; replacing old radiator hoses, checking the battery, and fuel line.

Replacing fuel lines: all day job when it's 44 degrees inside the garage!


It took me several trys getting the hose sheild to stay put; do I start from the top and go down or down and go upward? I started from the bottom and proceeded upward while debris was falling onto my face and eyes! Something that so simple takes an hour to finish.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #538, 02-01-2008 10:36 PM
      Side profile:



passenger side rear view:


front passenger side view:


Passenger front:


rear:

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #539, 02-01-2008 11:10 PM
      Visual clearances: stock 88


One finger pic:

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #540, 02-01-2008 11:11 PM
     

Dangggggggggg Curly that is just sick !!!

Ouch i think somebody just stepped on my tongue !


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #541, 02-01-2008 11:23 PM
     

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #542, 02-01-2008 11:23 PM
      Spot a 20: At 5" lip, I'm 1" too short, hehe.





A lot of freckin weights! Due to the Dakota Digital's air sensor.


Three of the Corvette 13" rotors are chrome domed; I hate rustic hats.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #543, 02-02-2008 01:14 AM
     
Totally, totally awesome !

Curly is it me or does the front tire seems kinda low, and there seems to be a lot of front wheel gap ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #544, 02-02-2008 12:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Curly is it me or does the front tire seems kinda low, and there seems to be a lot of front wheel gap ?


Yeah, I think it's a very slow leak or normal leak; however the tire was mounted last September (5-months ago). I'll take the tire/rim to a wheel shop and use their tire tub to check for leaks. I hope it's not the three peice seal leak, but rather a bead leak or valve stem.

As for the wheel gap, it's due to the tire being an 18" and not a 19" that normally run upfront; plus the fender cap isn't on and the car hasn't settled yet. I haven't driven the car since I removed the DUBs for #020. I'm thinking of getting 1" lowering springs which will be just enough clearance if I should decide to switch back.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #545, 02-02-2008 10:46 PM
      Nearly straight-up corner tire lip; granted a 325/25/20 would have worked too. However, the very minor bulging over the rim lip isn't enough to prevent curb rash. The 345 measure are 13.63 or so across (bead-to-bead) and the rim lip measure is 13.5" (lip-to-lip) which leaves .13" divided by 2 = .065


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #546, 02-03-2008 01:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by diabloscott:

You should fid a shop that will mount those tires quicker so we can hurry up and see how great they look on your car.
Scott


I talked to HRE last Wednesday about my concerns regarding the mounting of 345s using an extreme 5" outer lip. Conclusion; A special notation for rims (20x12-13") with outer extreme 5" lip or more; the two shops are now removed from the "list."

Cost involved;

1. $80 bucks that F1Motoring charged me for scratching my rims and failure in mounting the tires and 13:30 to 17:00 spent at the shop.

2. $190 buck that F1 paid for replacing the Dakota Digital tire sensors + s&h.

3. HRE cost of mounting them (they normally charge $40 bucks per tire) x tires = $80 bucks.

4. Shipping and recieving (mine were partly mounted) $50 bucks or so per tire to HRE x 2 = $100 buckeroos!

5. Shipping mounted tire/rim to customer maybe $100 bucks?


Total for HRE = $320 s&r x 4 plus mounting (guessing here).

F1 Motoring = $190 plus s&r

Curley = $30 bucks in gas, $80 bucks for failed attempt in mounting the suckers ( I know, I could have not paid), a good 8 hours or so waisted in getting the tires mounted.

Lessons learned: avoid all headaches by having The Tire Rack send the 345s directly to HRE and have HRE mount them.

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GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #547, 02-03-2008 03:00 PM
      Hey Curley, are you running the stock 5x100 bolt pattern? And do you have the part # on those rims?

Thanks


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #548, 02-03-2008 03:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:

Hey Curley, are you running the stock 5x100 bolt pattern? And do you have the part # on those rims?

Thanks


Correct. 5x100. The numbers are etched into the metel on the backside on every rim made by HRE. If you decide to buy, make sure you use specs from #011 for non-widebody Fiero. Keep in mind, #011 uses a Ryan/Held suspension (increased clearance for the fronts). As for widebody rims; #013, 015 &, 022 are all different even though all are widebodies. Each were made to the owners specifications that were based upon #020.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #549, 02-14-2008 10:47 PM
      Always continue to think outside the box, always try to be different.



#015 outdated roof line and IMO ugly squared corner.


Notice the curved roof line on the Lotus Elise


Old idea found on the Redux, but in this case,I'll increase the curvuture






Sorry about camera phone pics hehe.














Coming full circle: notice the nice curved shape of the roof.



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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #550, 02-15-2008 11:43 PM
      Springing a leak; the crappy nipples are not made of the same grade as regular radiator hose, therefor every year or so, I need to replace this crap with another nipple cap. However, I had enough of this crap by buying a splice kit and bypass this problem.


It's been three years and I finally got around to removing this problem. I need to do the same to #020. For the life of me, I hate Kevin's poor excuse for using this crap!


Both sides are completed.






Additional lip is now needed.


Back end up for fluids and getting out the air pockets.


Geezs, the fuel lines were giving me some issues so after the first two tries, I decide to watch the Star Wars Video and come back later. After I came back later, the N* started on the forth attempt and then I focused on the air pockets in the system. At 23:30hr I think I've gotten all of the air pockets out of the system.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #551, 02-16-2008 03:31 AM
      I was unable to retrieve the lost pics from my Lotus trip, but I was able to find of few of the dash.
Dash #015; Dakota Digital gauges, MOMO steering wheel and MOMO aluminum shifter knob.


6x9 up front and the two vents are from the Mustang 2005.


The upper Fiero dash was matted w/new faux carbon material, the same as #011.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #552, 02-17-2008 02:20 AM
      Three finger Louie, (coughs) I mean Curley, hehe. The needed clearance for 20s is 3 1/2 fingers. Here I'm 1/2 finger too short.


or 2" using 275, 305, 325, & 345. I'm not quite clearing 2".


D1S power steering to aid in moving 19/20 or 18/20 combos

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #553, 02-17-2008 01:59 PM
     
#015 just got sprung using front 1" drop springs for 2 1/2 finger clearance, hehe. The fronts will vary from 24.8 to 25.01" using different 18/19 combinations.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #554, 02-18-2008 02:41 AM
      Yeah baby, 20x13 with a 5" lips on 345/25/20 (rear) and 19x9 (front) that's what I'm talking bout'


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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #555, 02-18-2008 02:56 AM
      Same set-up on #013 (1" less on inner rears, but same outer lip size), but IMO sweeter on a Fiero.



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Sharkman MSG #556, 02-18-2008 04:19 AM
      Looks nice. That car is amazing.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #557, 04-10-2008 02:19 AM
      I took a peak at #015. Can't wait to get it back to Chicago! A shameless bump.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #558, 05-28-2008 11:24 AM
     

The wheels are turning in Curly's head,...look out !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #559, 07-29-2008 02:55 PM
      Yeah baby, just what I figured. Gleaning ideas from the 25th.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #560, 08-14-2008 04:01 AM
      Bump, cause good thread should never die.


In order to save #020; currently #015 taken out of commission for a few months.





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #561, 09-09-2008 11:06 PM
      Bump. Because---good threads should never die.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #562, 09-21-2008 12:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Bump. Because---good threads should never die.


I need get re-started on #015. Alot of items unfinished, hehe.
















madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #563, 10-28-2008 01:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


I need get re-started on #015. Alot of items unfinished, hehe.


Bump. Because---good threads should never die.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #564, 10-28-2008 03:57 PM
     

Curly any new pictures of the three brothers all together ??


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #565, 10-28-2008 05:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly any new pictures of the three brothers all together ??


I do, but I'll need to send the pics to you.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #566, 10-31-2008 12:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Curly any new pictures of the three brothers all together ??


Well, two of them, hehe.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #567, 11-22-2008 04:06 PM
      It's been pretty quiet here. Time for the MadArch kit!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #568, 12-02-2008 02:22 AM
      Due to the info regarding expired tires I went to the garage to check the morbidly phat tires on #015. No visual outside cracks detected.

Rears; 1104- eleventh week of 2004. Now I need to check my original invoice, but I know it's been many years during the MadArch proto-type build-up. Either way, I'm not throwing them out. The PRosso are only good for 20,000-25,000 mile max.



Fronts; 1505- fifth week of 2005.



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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #569, 03-01-2009 08:18 PM
      Still awaiting the Mad-Arch widebody.

Bump.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #570, 03-23-2009 01:08 AM
      I picked up some new goodies from the GM parts guy. I've been neglecting #015 for some time now. It's time to roll.



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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #571, 03-23-2009 01:57 PM
      I'll use the same fog lamps as #020, but using Jimmy's front Fiero bumper.



I opt for the Corvette fog lamps since my GM parts guy couldn't receive the items I originally ordered, so instead of a refund I'd rather have the C6 lamps. Besides, I was going to need them later in the build using the MadArch widebody kit.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #572, 05-12-2009 10:09 PM
      Finally, #015 is back in the grove. The Mad-Arch should arrive next Tuesday or Wednesday.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #573, 05-12-2009 10:42 PM
     

fierocarparts (doyouneedparts@yahoo.com) MSG #574, 05-13-2009 01:19 PM
      OKay this thread is almost 5 years old. Not to offend BUTTTTT how can you see this car as a DD? I LOVE the work you are doing, don't get me wrong! I LOVE the idea of using front fenders to widen the body. I enjoy seeing your creative side on these cars but...... when ya gunna drive it? Or am I mistaken that you drive it to the different vendors to be worked on? That is what it looked like at first.
Just wondering.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #575, 05-13-2009 06:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierocarparts:

OKay this thread is almost 5 years old. Not to offend BUTTTTT how can you see this car as a DD? I LOVE the work you are doing, don't get me wrong! I LOVE the idea of using front fenders to widen the body. I enjoy seeing your creative side on these cars but...... when ya gunna drive it? Or am I mistaken that you drive it to the different vendors to be worked on? That is what it looked like at first.
Just wondering.



WHY? To BETTER SERVE MANKIND. To summarize my delay. I've been busy working with various Fiero venders throughout several states in hopes of helping fellow members (here) in tweaking their Fieros a different way other than the typical rebody Ferrari or Lamborghini. Now accomplished I can return to what I intended to finish... #015. I expect to drive #015 in a couple of months once the body is glassed on.

 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Bump



(singing) Staying alive, Staying alive,......

Hmmmmm did i just date myself ??


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Archie:

Everybody has seen the thread on Curley's Wide Body car called the Arch-Rival.

This thread is to determine of there is any REAL interest in a kit to convert a Fiero GT into a Wide Body.

Here's what we are thinking about doing.

Please be very careful to read exactly what we are considering producing.

1) We would be making a set of Integrated Rocker Panels like the ones that are on the Arch-Rival. These would be complete panels that are ready to put on the car like our other integrated rockers are.

2) We would be making a set of "Door Caps" that would be installed onto the top of your original Fiero door panel. I'd call these "builder parts" meaning that someone will actually have to do the labor to glass them onto the car & do the needed body work to blend them into the car for a finished look. This would keep you from having to fabricate them up from scratch like we did, but it wouldn't totally eliminate the need to get your hands dirty.

3) We would be making a set of "Fender Caps" that would be installed onto the top of your original Fiero rear fenders. They would also have a "return" that goes up into the wheel well that the original inner wheel well liner would fit up to. I'd call these "builder parts" meaning that someone will actually have to do the labor to glass them onto the car & do the needed body work to blend them into the car for a finished look. The "return" would aid you in locating these caps in the correct location. These would keep you from having to fabricate them up from scratch like we did, but it wouldn't totally eliminate the need to get your hands dirty.

4) We would be making a complete fiberglass rear bumper that has the ends flared out to meet the other wide body bodywork. This bumper would completely replace your current bumper. It would have "returns" in the wheel wells & the original wheel well liner would fasten to them. the "returns" would also help you to locate the reap bumper in the correct location to match-up to the other wide body parts. These would keep you from having to fabricate them up from scratch like we did, but it wouldn't totally eliminate the need to get your hands dirty.

The pictures would indicate the areas we are considering making molds from.

Making molds for these 7 parts would be a bit expensive & I wouldn't expect to actually sell more than 10 or 15 sets of them over a 3 to 4 year period of time. So that's why I am looking for those that would actually have a REAL interest in purchasing a set. I expect that a set of the 7 parts would have to sell for $2200.00 to $2500.00 to pay for the tooling & manufacturing time & materials.

Is there enough interest?









Archie


 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Starting from scratch, yes. Otherwise, reusing the existing part saves you time and avoidance of laying down 4-6 layers of fiber glass (thickness), beside the "L" bracket (roof) is main part and as you can see it's curved.

This is the part I'm mainly interested in;






To be continued;






[/QUOTE]

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #576, 05-13-2009 11:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierocarparts:

OKay this thread is almost 5 years old. Not to offend BUTTTTT how can you see this car as a DD? I LOVE the work you are doing, don't get me wrong! I LOVE the idea of using front fenders to widen the body. I enjoy seeing your creative side on these cars but...... when ya gunna drive it? Or am I mistaken that you drive it to the different vendors to be worked on? That is what it looked like at first.
Just wondering.


Please don't rush the guy,...... the moe time he takes, the more ideas he comes up with and the more it benefits the fiero community with the cool ideas and products he comes up with (like the widebody kit, and the rear decklid window kit being sold by Archie).


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #577, 05-17-2009 02:55 AM
     

Coming back to life soon !!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #578, 05-17-2009 12:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Coming back to life soon !!


On Tuesday, we'll see "what Brown can do."


fierocarparts (doyouneedparts@yahoo.com) MSG #579, 05-19-2009 09:25 AM
      There is no doubt that there have been NUMEROUS and inventive ideas come out of Curly's head. Although some may say negative things about the fact that he can afford to have others do some of the work for him, is it any different than anyone else getting someone to do an engine swap for them? When I need firewood, I don't spend all day Saturday/Sunday driving to chop up wood. I'd rather pay someone $125 for a cord while I do a brake-job in 2 hours and have the rest of the weekend to work on my car.
Keep up the good work Curly. I definitely don't have the patience that you and others have on here to wait on driving their car. I'm sure the finished (if ever? "new ideas") product will be amazing. I had 2 fenders that I was going to practically give away but thanks to seeing your thread, they will be part of my customizing of my car. can't wait to see what comes about next.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #580, 05-19-2009 07:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


On Tuesday, we'll see "what Brown can do."



Brown did good.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #581, 05-19-2009 07:44 PM
      V8Archie did good.



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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #582, 05-19-2009 08:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierocarparts:

There is no doubt that there have been NUMEROUS and inventive ideas come out of Curly's head. Although some may say negative things about the fact that he can afford to have others do some of the work for him, is it any different than anyone else getting someone to do an engine swap for them? When I need firewood, I don't spend all day Saturday/Sunday driving to chop up wood. I'd rather pay someone $125 for a cord while I do a brake-job in 2 hours and have the rest of the weekend to work on my car.
Keep up the good work Curly. I definitely don't have the patience that you and others have on here to wait on driving their car. I'm sure the finished (if ever? "new ideas") product will be amazing. I had 2 fenders that I was going to practically give away but thanks to seeing your thread, they will be part of my customizing of my car. can't wait to see what comes about next.




Thanks for the words of encouragement and like you said, "having someone else do the major work" is a whole lot easier than starting from nothing. My goal is simple; add a bit of "uniqueness" to our beloved Fiero w/o having to resort to a replica, cause there is no need. The ideas are right in front of us.

I'm glad V8Archie listened to my ramblings and produced the kit. Once purchased, all that is needed is one's imagination. Remember, "tweak it before you glass it."

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #583, 05-21-2009 02:59 AM
      The better part of the day was spent removing the old fender flares and ausi door caps. Afterwards, I spent the rest of the day cleaning and vacuuming all of the dust. I should've used a plastic screen to keep the dust contained, but I was up at the crack of dawn and didn't want to lose my rush.



I removed most of the dust and cleaned up a bit. I trial fit the MadArch rockers and everything seems to be okay.


Because the MadArch kit was initially for a 87--- the 88 year sticks out a bit so I'll need to tweak it to fit the massive 345s.


The same holds true for the rear bumper using 12" wide steam rollers.


I hope to attach the remaining parts on Thursday to see how the kits flow.

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whodeanie (dean@glassworksga.com) MSG #584, 05-21-2009 08:43 AM
      I remember when I was at that stage

I still have a long way to go

looking good Curly
D.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #585, 05-21-2009 06:27 PM
      Let's get going. Started today with the passenger side door. Removing the inner wasn't a problem and neither was the outer skin, well,... the hex screws. All but one was a pain. It took me 20-minutes looking for a 30 size hex since the other one wasn't sturdy enough to loosen the hex screw.

MR. Mikes interior. Years later and it's still holding up.


Those little tabs have got to go!


Outer door skin removed--- now I need to tackle the little plastic tie - ons.



Clipping heads, hehe.


I had to drill out the metal bar tabs.


I never had to remove my doors, but what a surprise-- V8Archie draped the impact beam with terry cloth.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #586, 05-21-2009 07:55 PM
      I won't be needing this, since I'll use the F430 mirrors.


One of the bolts broke on #011, so I'll make good use of #015s.





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #587, 05-22-2009 12:32 AM
      I sanded down the outside and inside door panel. It would've been better to buy a Formula door and bypass the glassing, but due to time and no Fieros are the local junk yard... this will have to do.







To be continued...

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #588, 05-22-2009 03:41 AM
      I got the original #020 MadArch widebody kit. As you can see it's a bit taller and more aggressive.


It sits higher on the back end allowing for additional tweaking (something I like) Original old "G." .


As you can see, the MadArch kit is meant for those who want something unique. No stock is required.




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Sharkman MSG #589, 05-22-2009 06:38 AM
      Sweet, I would love to have that on my car.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #590, 05-22-2009 03:59 PM
     

Curly with the ramped up outer door skins, how do you compensate cosmetically on the inside of the door panel ??


GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #591, 05-22-2009 09:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly with the ramped up outer door skins, how do you compensate cosmetically on the inside of the door panel ??


I was thinking the same thing. I think that there's some production car's with something simular to that. I think it gives it a sleeker look.


whodeanie (dean@glassworksga.com) MSG #592, 05-22-2009 10:49 PM
      GodFather, I think Curly's junk yard is starting to look like ours now! LOL.
it is good to see Curly working on his cars again, not that Archie does a bad job just that working on them our selves is part of the fun
Curly, don't get that dust anywhere you don't want to itch ????????
looking great

not to hijack but godfather how is your going?
I will be getting back to mine this weekend once I finish the 355
D.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #593, 05-22-2009 11:25 PM
      I've been juggling several cars this week, #020, #015, #011, & the work car.



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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #594, 05-22-2009 11:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly with the ramped up outer door skins, how do you compensate cosmetically on the inside of the door panel ??


As the saying goes, "hindsight is always 20/20." Therefore nothing will be done on #015 since the interior is already completed by Mr. Mikes. However, most owners no modify the upper interior door panel since it isn't a real big bother, because most are painted. However, there's no more hanging your arm outside the window like an idiot. I guess its one way of preventing your arm from being yanked off in a accident.




mcaanda (mcaanda@gmail.com) MSG #595, 05-22-2009 11:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Forget brown, I love those doors.

Oh yea, nice work on the GT's also - Love the tail end of the wide bodies but hot damn those doors look good!

--Allen



GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #596, 05-23-2009 08:30 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by whodeanie:

GodFather, I think Curly's junk yard is starting to look like ours now! LOL.
not to hijack but godfather how is your going?
I will be getting back to mine this weekend once I finish the 355
D.


Haven't had much time to work on the car. I've been busy with work and need some motivation to get back in the groove to work on it.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #597, 05-23-2009 12:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mcaanda:


Forget brown, I love those doors.

Oh yea, nice work on the GT's also - Love the tail end of the wide bodies but hot damn those doors look good!

--Allen





Thanks. My realtor informs me, "a house should have curb appeal." Well, that may be true, but my knuckles and fingers whole heartedly agree for they have suffered the brunt of one too many small entrances. No matter the time, forethought, route taken, or cautious measurements--- my knuckles are caught between the door frame and the big item I'm hauling in & out of the house.

Otherwise, wide main entrance doors and wide body kits fall under the same heading..."curb appeal." For both are rarely used to the extremes, both look darn good, and both well cost you some $$$$. Wow, I some how merged front doors and wide body kit on a Fiero forum.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #598, 05-24-2009 02:01 PM
      Thanks Katatak for alerting about spring compressor. I'll add this to my project now, hehe.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #599, 05-26-2009 01:24 AM
      Hanging with Orville today. I needed some "skins" and Orville has a field of Dreams. Thanks Orville.


After talking it over with Archie, it was best to start with a non- GT door panel. Thus no need to glass over the holes. Besides, I need a section for the side mirror opening.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #600, 05-28-2009 01:29 AM
      Checking out the clearances;

Due to the increase curviture of the Lexan glass the back end of the Lexan is pretty close to the impact beam ( I only had the thickness of a ruler). The V8Archie choptop glass will no doubt be the same, but if it should be a bit thicker than the the terry cloth will prevent scratches.



the front end doesn't have any clearance issues (it clears with no problem).

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #601, 06-11-2009 09:07 AM
     

Did the florida delivery arrive yet ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #602, 06-15-2009 07:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Did the florida delivery arrive yet ?


Yes. It arrived around 12:30 today. I hope to pick it up on Tuesday.

Last week I stopped by WFC's and bought re-tweaked spare tire. I've been driving for nearly decade w/o a spare to fit over the 13" rotors.


This is how the tire will fit inside the compartment.



A tight fit, but it'll be okay for now.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #603, 06-16-2009 09:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Yes. It arrived around 12:30 today. I hope to pick it up on Tuesday.



Since the front clip was 50-miles away, I decided to multi-task.



I stopped off at Greyhound to check out the front nose and make sure I had enough room to fit in the convertible. Right off the bat, the lady behind the counter informed me that the package wasn't properly packaged. Greyhound wouldn't allow me to go around and see so the pics are from 10-15 feet away.



The nose didn't appear to have any visible damage from where I was standing.


After taking a few pics headed to the alignment shop 8-blocks away.





After the alignment, headed to the movies to see, "Terminator Salvation" and around 16:30HRs I was back at Greyhound to pick up the part.


They asked me to pull around back for pick-up.








Like whoredom... everything seem to fit.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #604, 06-16-2009 10:10 PM
      It seems my front bumper has gotten around. I counted at least 5-different tickets. Sweaty men touching my bumper!








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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #605, 06-16-2009 10:29 PM
      The drive back was beautiful






except for trucks passing another truck going 1-mph faster than the one he/she's trying to pass.



Yeah, the speed limit is 65-mph and I'm going how fast?



Get this, I've seen it go slow as 25-mph while passing another one.

Beautiful mountains with train tracks dug into the mountain side.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #606, 06-16-2009 11:15 PM
     
Glad to see you got your part from Jimmy O.K.

You left out a couple of important things however.

First,......how was the movie,..and second what's up with the wheel gap on the daily driver !??



You know how the old saying goes,...it's (the wheelgap) too big, it's too big !! hehehe


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #607, 06-16-2009 11:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Glad to see you got your part from Jimmy O.K.

You left out a couple of important things however.

First,......how was the movie,..and second what's up with the wheel gap on the daily driver !??

You know how the old saying goes,...it's (the wheelgap) too big, it's too big !! hehehe


The movie was great. Spoiler alert: There's a reason why there was only one terminator inside Skynet's HQ.

As for the daily driver I've gone through two sets of after market springs... Eibach is one of them. Come to find out, nobody makes a true correct lowered springs for the Eclipse GST Sypder. Do to the added weight of the conv. (300 pounds I'm guessing) the spring are okay at first, but even with camber kits the freaking suspension drops way beyond the 1- inch drop down to 3 inches and the ride get worse.



The only way to correct the problem is to use coil overs @ 600-700 bucks. I'm cool just the way the car sits and my $220 tires don't wear out as fast.


Finally home and with the concrete hardened I have room for tweaking;




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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #608, 06-17-2009 12:21 AM
      IMO the front bumper is near 99% perfect and quality appear to 100%. The thickness and non warping is what I expected. Granted, nobody expects it to be "paint ready" so a little bit of massaging will be needed. As to be expected there are a few dib-bits here and there ( counted three) but nothing to complain about. I'll have my glass guy fix that up.





Upon inspection I found a dip in the bumper caused by the shipper. I didn't notice it first, but I suspect it was a weak spot where a air bubble was created and it gave way when pressure was applied. Like I said, nothing that my glass guy can't fix. You'd be a moron to expect the part to be 100% perfect.


The dip or crack isn't present on the back side so no doubt it was a weak spot in front.


The backside is nice and evenly coated.


Over-all, the bumper is all-good. My only suggestion is to use bubble wrap on long hauls to the west. Otherwise, one or two transfers might be okay, but in my case it was nearly 5-bus exchanges.

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FierociousGT MSG #609, 06-17-2009 09:52 AM
      Good post. Thanks for the pics. I have a set of JimmyS bumper. Very nice quality.

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #610, 06-17-2009 03:41 PM
      That dip/spot on the front bumper is caused by the fiberglass not getting pushed all the way into the corner up against the gelcoat. A body guy, prepping a new fiberglass part for paint, knows to check all the sharp edges for voids. Just use the handle of a screwdriver and tap along all the sharp edges. If there are any voids, the gelcoat will break. The gelcoat is similar to an eggshell and it can be broken (if there is a void between it and the fiberglass) just like an eggshell. A little bit of bondo in that area is all that is needed to fix the spot.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #611, 06-17-2009 09:57 PM
     

How come this thread is not in the construction zone ??

We need to get this puppy moved. Cliff ??


Cliff Pennock (admin@fieroforum.com) MSG #612, 06-18-2009 03:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

How come this thread is not in the construction zone ??


Probably because only the last 1.5 pages are posts made in the past 6 months. Page 14: posts are from 2007, page 15: posts are from 2009. That's a huge gap. But Since I can see this project is now very active again, I'll move it to TCZ.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #613, 06-18-2009 05:37 AM
      I had some time off from work so I decided to prep the passenger side for the MadArch kit.



After careful removal of un-needed parts I started to assemble the widebody kit. The instructions provide were easy to follow and along with the various screws and attachments.


After the initial trial-fit I put the hip and rocker together.


Nothing was bolted onto the rear clip, but the two screws that connect the hip and rocker and the bumper is just hanging there for visuals. Maybe on Thursday I'll have time to get the rear bumper prepped. Right now I wanted to see how it looks and it came out pretty good. Due to #015 being a 88-- I'll need to widen the rear bumper, hip, and rocker. I'm cool with that since I want #015 to be somewhat different than #020 for I truly dislike bolt-on parts.


Excess garbage removed, hehe.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #614, 06-18-2009 06:41 AM
      I was distracted by a late night phone call, so I start all over on Thursday. It's wonderful working on your car late at night.

I got the rear wheel mounted for visuals and everything seem to fit according to plan.


I removed the 17-inch Borbet rim and opted for the HRE 18-inch






Time to put #011 back inside.


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Gokart Mozart MSG #615, 06-18-2009 07:45 PM
      ..

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #616, 06-19-2009 12:24 AM
      Passenger side hips/rocker is pretty much a done deal.


Driver side hips/rocker on (not screwed onto car). Test fit reveals a perfect fit although I need to tackle the gas cap opening next--- then the bumper. I'm moving at a sails pace, but I'm in no hurry.



A little more lip and I'll be okay. The 345 is sticking out a bit;

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #617, 06-29-2009 02:05 PM
      Okay, time to jump back on #015.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #618, 07-03-2009 03:16 AM
      Today was somewhat productive despite UPS late delivery. After working out in the gym it was time to install Jimmy-s fiberglass front nose.

Safety first x three. I don't trust people- the same for jacks stands; both will let you down, hehe.






grkboy707 (gnoplos@gmail.com) MSG #619, 07-09-2009 09:53 PM
      i love the first few pics, they built up the suspense

InTheLead MSG #620, 07-10-2009 01:05 AM
      lol.. I clicked on this thread and saw a new fascia I was like "wtf no more Norms flipperooo" then I realized you have like 3-4 of these and now I hate your guts and I'm leaving your thread

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CETICARS MSG #621, 07-14-2009 02:38 PM
      madcurl
whis is your opinion of the quarter glass in the new nissan altima COUPE ,I wish someone here could photoshop one in, so we could see how it look


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #622, 07-14-2009 04:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CETICARS:

madcurl
whis is your opinion of the quarter glass in the new nissan altima COUPE ,I wish someone here could photoshop one in, so we could see how it look


The quarter glass ( I'm guessing your referring to the glass behind the driver) wouldn't work because you'll need the wrap-around tongue 'n grove near the b-pillar plus the b-pillar is at a angle on the Nissan. Besides that, the Nissan window is way too big. There's many other side glass that is smaller, but still you have to worry about the tongue and grove fit.




As you know the sail window is curved inward;


The sail window tucks up and under. You'd need to rework the entire area using a different glass otherwise doing something along the lines what Whodeanni did.



I have other ideas that are better IMHO that are uniquely Fiero-ish.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #623, 07-15-2009 03:00 PM
      I payed a visit to Trendz yesterday for #015 side glass. I think the pipe dream might work (at least in my head it does, hehe). It was hotter than heck in Bakersfield and I was glad to leave. I saw a few cars being painted and a nice parked Thunderbird. Can you say,..."sweet."


Sorry, camera phone picks.








A closer view;

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #624, 07-30-2009 06:36 PM
     



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #625, 08-01-2009 02:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:I hope to attach the remaining parts on Thursday to see how the kits flow.




I picked up the two side glass last Thursday from Trendzs and the parts fit perfectly---- just as I invisioned it many years ago, but on #020.

I now need to call JimmyS for the other part of the puzzle.


That is all.





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #626, 12-08-2009 02:49 AM
      Bump for visuals; I'll take additional pics (Tuesday) of the bracket that needs to be removed prior to attaching the fiber glass bumper.

Blueiii (bleuii78@hotmail.com) MSG #627, 12-08-2009 09:50 AM
      Curly,

Thanks again (in advance) for posting pictures of the bumper install. This has been the most frustrating part of the build so far!!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #628, 12-08-2009 10:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Blueiii:

Curly,

Thanks again (in advance) for posting pictures of the bumper install. This has been the most frustrating part of the build so far!!


I had a few pics from this year. You'll notice the metal bracket the runs the width of the bumper on top.

You'll need to loosen the hood bolts in order to install the fiberglass nose. The corner piece (the rubber thingie) will get in the way.




You'll need a hex wrench to remove the screws in order to install JimmyS' fiberglass front bumper.

1. Remove the plastic stock bumper (you don't need to unscrew the hex bolts at this time since the plastic bumper is very flexible.
2. Prior to installing JimmyS bumper, unloosen all the screws
3. Leave the metal bracket on top of the bumper (close to the position needed to screw hex bolts in).

You can see the metal bracket the runs the length of the bumper (it's the one with the hex bolts).

In this pic there's a hex wrench in the middle sticking upward.

4. Carefully, place JimmyS bumper onto the bumper rack (try not to push the metal bracket too far away from the hex holes. You'll need to raise the fiberglass bumper up & over the metal bracket.

Here's a pic of the screw holes lined up.




5. Start on one corner, tightening the hex screw and move down the rack as you bolt each hex bolt.
6. Once you near the center of the bumper you'll need to unloosen the hood a bit so that you can tightened the center hex bolts.
This should take you 10-additional minutes due to the nose being fiberglass.

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Blueiii (bleuii78@hotmail.com) MSG #629, 12-10-2009 12:07 PM
      Did you bolt the front of the nose down first, then shove the corners up to attach to the fenders next?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #630, 12-10-2009 12:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Blueiii:

Did you bolt the front of the nose down first, then shove the corners up to attach to the fenders next?


I started at the top where the metal bracket needed to be fastened. I started bolting the easiest hex screws first (center ones) and moved outward to the corners. You'll need to loosen up the hood attachments in order to get to the corner hex screws. As for the bottom- I haven't attached everything that yet (just the boxed air dam curtain thingie), but I did look underneath and everything seemed to fit nicely- even over the egg crate impact rubber. I was truly impressed!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #631, 12-10-2009 12:59 PM
      Everything lined up w/o any issues;






madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #632, 01-30-2010 12:33 AM
      2010 bump;


Blueiii (bleuii78@hotmail.com) MSG #633, 02-05-2010 03:31 PM
      Can you please shoot me a PM when you attach the fenders? I am still having issues with my bumper fitment and alignment with the fenders. There's a widening gap from the nose to the wheel well.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #634, 03-31-2010 11:08 PM
      I moved onto #015 and I must say, "my gamble paid-off" and it fit's nicely. The stock choptop sail window is a bit boring and out dated. I wanted something different, so I opted for this ( I hate following the herd- strive to be different). Originally, the dealer wanted $650 per side (yeah, he was smoking some strong herbs). I got them for $150 shipped. As you can visualize the window fits the contour of the Fiero's rear clip and lines-up with the roof. On Thursday I'll have Steve perform his magic using aluminum.

The back end will be glass-in for a continued flow. As you can see, it flows with the MadArch kit.






I had the windows for some time, but I was too busy with #020.





exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #635, 04-01-2010 04:23 PM
     
Interesting.

Will be cool to see how you incorporate it fully into the mix.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #636, 06-15-2010 09:04 AM
     

Has the nose operation commenced ??


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #637, 06-17-2010 12:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Has the nose operation commenced ??


It has begun .


Yummy!


I smell the flowers--it's time to get going on #015.





the plan of attack;




End result-similar to #020


$10-14 bubble wrap


Ready-to-go!


Get that sucker in there!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #638, 06-17-2010 12:55 AM
      Going to see the Big Dog.


16 pounder;


Doubled Wrapped



A bit extra on the corners;


Total of three transfers at a cost of $46 2-3 days, but make it 5-days.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #639, 06-17-2010 03:07 AM
     

Very clear and detailed instructions,..it would be very hard for someone to screw it up.



Very well thought out.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #640, 06-17-2010 04:17 AM
     

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #641, 06-19-2010 03:58 PM
      The plan of attack;










madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #642, 06-19-2010 08:59 PM
     



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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #643, 06-22-2010 02:25 PM
     





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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #644, 06-22-2010 06:27 PM
      The tweeking has begun !



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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #645, 06-22-2010 07:07 PM
      More !







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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #646, 06-22-2010 07:26 PM
     

Curly i noticed you did not make any notations about the arrowhead and the beltline,...aren't they being deleated ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #647, 06-22-2010 07:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly i noticed you did not make any notations about the arrowhead and the beltline,...aren't they being deleated ?


Yeah, at the time I forgot to mention it, but I talked to Dan regarding it and he'll glass over the small area.

Now to order a set of these puppies!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #648, 06-25-2010 08:46 PM
     

More nose progress to show !





exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #649, 06-26-2010 11:31 PM
     





exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #650, 06-29-2010 11:38 PM
     

Center nose piece reworked !



GonsaiPK MSG #651, 06-30-2010 12:31 AM
      That's some next level work you're doing, keep it up.

The bottom of the center opening isn't going to be deflecting air away from any part of the radiator, is it? Maybe it just looks that way because the front edge is thinner than normal.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #652, 07-01-2010 02:11 AM
      Look what "Brown" dropped off today. The MadArch fender flares.



Professionally package.


Excellent quality.


Excellent fit;

Oh yeah baby! Awaiting the front bumper.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #653, 07-01-2010 03:45 AM
     



Fender wraps over the 18x8.5


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #654, 07-06-2010 12:47 PM
     
The new nose is coming together nicely !











exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #655, 07-06-2010 12:51 PM
      More you say ? ooooook !









madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #656, 07-07-2010 04:07 PM
     




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #657, 07-09-2010 08:43 PM
      I just saw #015 facsia and the nose looks like it's moving on steroids, hehe. The JOM 6" driving lamps are in place and awaiting Troyboy's PIAA fog lamps.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #658, 07-09-2010 11:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

I just saw #015 facsia and the nose looks like it's moving on steroids, hehe. The JOM 6" driving lamps are in place and awaiting Troyboy's PIAA fog lamps.




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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #659, 07-10-2010 07:36 PM
     







85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #660, 07-10-2010 11:38 PM
      Madcurl

Have you check to see if the bumper will fit over the absorver after the mods ?

Are you planning on using any type of mesh behind the openings ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #661, 07-11-2010 02:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Madcurl

Have you check to see if the bumper will fit over the absorver after the mods ?

Are you planning on using any type of mesh behind the openings ?


If you noticed--nothing dramatically has changed; just the angles. The depth remains the same except the new location for the lamps will be moved forward









The OEM egg crate rubber absorber will no doubt need modification near the center where the large opening is raised,



but other-than-that all other lights are either; moved forward and away from the body (driving lamps) where the original turn signal lamps are mounted thus more room.


The fog lamps will be positioned a bit lower than where #022 was placed thus no abstruction.



The side vents are pointed down and inward.

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GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #662, 07-16-2010 10:30 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:



I'm surprised no one asked about this. Do you have any pic of the hinges?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #663, 07-16-2010 02:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Madcurl


Are you planning on using any type of mesh behind the openings ?


Yes.

 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:


I'm surprised no one asked about this. Do you have any pic of the hinges?


Sorry, no close-ups of the VDC kit. The pics were from a web page featured here on Pennocks.

In other news; #015 nose is coming along very nicely with the JOM lamps staggered just below Troy boy’s fog lamps. Dan and I agreed that the JOM look far better being fitted on the bottom so that we could exploit the lamps chrome bezel. Dan tried both options, but the later was deemed the best look for what I wanted. I sent examples to exoticse for visuals.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #664, 07-16-2010 10:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

#015 nose is coming along very nicely with the JOM lamps staggered just below Troy boy’s fog lamps. Dan and I agreed that the JOM look far better being fitted on the bottom so that we could exploit the lamps chrome bezel. Dan tried both options, but the later was deemed the best look for what I wanted. I sent examples to exoticse for visuals.


First up,.. exploring the options.

















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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #665, 07-16-2010 11:00 PM
     

final decision !













madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #666, 07-16-2010 11:12 PM
      Thanks Tony for resizing and posting pics (I'm too busy working). As you can see-the lights aren't positioned correctly and are placed soley for visuals. Next week Dan will tweak the JOM lights with a roof that will separate it from the fog lamps. The housing around the fog lamps will be funneled towards the lights in a cone-like fashion. Also, the two main grills will be tweaked for grills similar to #020. It's rough, but coming along nicely.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #667, 07-21-2010 11:42 AM
      progress.













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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #668, 07-21-2010 11:59 AM
      looking good curls !

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #669, 07-22-2010 06:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

looking good curls !



Thanks Tony.

Update; Dan has tweaked #015 nose similar to that of the NSX lower front lip spoiler and has now smoothed out the area for better visuals. Indeed the nose appears more Pontiac OEM-like, but with an aggressive stance and pitch. Also, the octagon mock-up grills are in place.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #670, 07-22-2010 11:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Thanks Tony.

Update; Dan has tweaked #015 nose similar to that of the NSX lower front lip spoiler and has now smoothed out the area for better visuals. Indeed the nose appears more Pontiac OEM-like, but with an aggressive stance and pitch. Also, the octagon mock-up grills are in place.








madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #671, 07-23-2010 01:07 PM
      Based upon the pictures I'm going with example B. The mock-up grill placement looks better towards the back verses closer to the front, because it highlights the center piece.

Example A


Example B


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #672, 07-23-2010 04:34 PM
      I like "B" too, But I would keep the LED day time driving lights mounted on top and drop the fog lights I gave you. I would go with smaller round Hella fog lights and hide them in the center grill.

Hella Micro DE Xenon HID driving lights










madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #673, 07-24-2010 01:42 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

I like "B" too, But I would keep the LED day time driving lights mounted on top and drop the fog lights I gave you. I would go with smaller round Hella fog lights and hide them in the center grill.




As usual-you're most likely are right.

Update: Dan had time to mount the Nose and I think it's a winner. It looks like the car is in flight while it's parked. Aggressive? Yes. Attitude? Yes. Ferrari/lamborghini? No.

Pics sent to Tony. Enjoy.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #674, 07-24-2010 08:26 AM
      Nose mounted on mock-up car !















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2Fast2Fiero (distinctmale06@aol.com) MSG #675, 07-24-2010 07:21 PM
      nice car. I'm loving those rims



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #676, 07-24-2010 11:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 2Fast2Fiero:

nice car. I'm loving those rims




Thanks. I finally learned to have the backside of the rims polished with a clear coat.


Backside views and things; HRE 20x12 with stainless steel fastners and fully polished/clear coated inner barrels.



Stainlees steel fasteners and hardware: Notice the nearly unnoticable valve stem caps on front views. After many thieves stealing my caps over the yrs...they now have to look very, very hard for them!


Backside polished/clear coated (I've learned my lesson over the yrs...painted centers/clear coated inners = less elbow work

Notice the amount of weight reduction by the triangular cut-outs on the backside mounting surface.










madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #677, 07-27-2010 05:55 PM
      Pardon me for the bump. Dan and I are comparing notes. However, new pics on Wednesday.







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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #678, 07-29-2010 11:53 AM
      A few additional modifications are still needed and the plan is too now move the sides outward a bit-similar to what was performed on the original nose to prevent the front tires from sticking outward. It's a bit annoying for all 88s, especially with 8.5 rims up front.

Meanwhile, a few pics. Enjoy.










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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #679, 07-31-2010 05:19 AM
      Wing tips down:



Widening out:



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #680, 08-01-2010 02:36 AM
      Not feeling the extra non-vent area. We'll need to come-up with something a bit better. I saw a Pontica 2010 (or 2009?) G8. I was digging the side marker light.

Due to time, I was goofing out with the pin-strip tape.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #681, 08-06-2010 09:11 PM
     
Getting closer to the final product !







exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #682, 08-07-2010 07:29 PM
      more,...







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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #683, 08-11-2010 01:13 PM
      The side flare modification is completed. Dan has performed tweak-beautifications flawlessly and I'm very, very pleased with the end results. We have a few addition radius modifications to the two main vents and that's about it. Yes. The nose is aggressive which is needed in order to match the Mad Arch wide body kit. The good news: if I happened to encounter an accident-I know where to get another one. I truly like one-offs, but I don’t like repeating the process all over again.


Edit: pics sent to exoticse.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #684, 08-11-2010 06:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

The side flare modification is completed. Dan has performed tweak-beautifications flawlessly and I'm very, very pleased with the end results. We have a few addition radius modifications to the two main vents and that's about it. Yes. The nose is aggressive which is needed in order to match the Mad Arch wide body kit. The good news: if I happened to encounter an accident-I know where to get another one. I truly like one-offs, but I don’t like repeating the process all over again.


Edit: pics sent to exoticse.











FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #685, 08-12-2010 09:48 PM
      Much better looking now, in my opinion.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #686, 08-13-2010 12:39 AM
     
more pics from madcurl











exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #687, 09-07-2010 03:59 AM
     
Tweak, tweak !



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #688, 09-07-2010 05:59 PM
     



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #689, 09-08-2010 12:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:






Thanks Tony for posting picks. After talking it over with the "League of Chop top Super Friends," (V8Archie, Troyboy, & Exoticse) it was decided to add a 2" drop to the nose to even out things. 2" is similar to the 1990 concept Fieros nose spoiler (using my finger measurements) during the 25th



Yes. Crude instrument used, but I now have an idea of how long the part is. The add-on appears to be plastic, but I'm not sure.

Appears to be bit taller in the rear vs the front.


A slight inner angle on the turn signal opening.




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #690, 09-08-2010 07:02 PM
      Fresh stuff.





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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #691, 09-23-2010 04:10 PM
      Finished !







1988holleyformula MSG #692, 09-24-2010 01:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Finished !


So overall, the fiberglass bumper has been a great piece to work on? When does it get primed/painted?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #693, 09-27-2010 11:50 AM
     





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #694, 09-27-2010 04:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:



Thanks Tony for posting and resizing pics. This week prep and gel coating followed by the buck/& then the mold. What's next? the side fenders.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #695, 10-03-2010 01:05 AM
      New pics with glazing material now on ready for molds. I sent pics to Tony. I hope to have the nose on #015 something in Oct.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #696, 10-03-2010 02:00 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

New pics with glazing material now on ready for molds. I sent pics to Tony. I hope to have the nose on #015 something in Oct.










madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #697, 10-10-2010 12:42 AM
      Dan is doing a great job on #015 nose. Sanding out the high and low areas prior to glazing. Pics sent to Exoticse.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #698, 10-10-2010 01:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Dan is doing a great job on #015 nose. Sanding out the high and low areas prior to glazing. Pics sent to Exoticse.







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SMTHGT MSG #699, 10-10-2010 10:31 AM
      THAT IS AMAZING.... You both know that if it is not a 'one off' then its someone elses ideas.... Keep up the great work yall. But, I am taking notes of course.... Yall have raised the bar while I was gone, I will never catch up.... But, I have to atleast try...



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #700, 10-13-2010 06:15 PM
      345/25/20 at a record low $480 bucks. Some type of close-out deal? I recall getting a set back in jun2004 for $418 a tire and the highest I've seen peeked around $600?

Vehicle: 00 XXXX KIT CAR - FIERO
Qty

Size and Description

Availability

Price Each

Total Price


2 345/25YR-20 Pirelli PZero Rosso Asimmetrico Back Ordered $416.00 $832.00



http://www.tirerack.com/tir...R00ARV2OLD&tab=Sizes


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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #701, 10-25-2010 01:53 AM
     

Done molding ?


GADJet MSG #702, 10-25-2010 02:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jim88GT:

Curly,
We have a price war going on here $1.41 for regular!

Jim


LMBO at this... Could anyone imagine how high gas would have gotten in 2009 when this was posted? This quote was posted in 2004. 5 years later the price was nearly 4x that ammount! And they were griping about that price! LOL

Man the good ole days of $1.xx/gallon. AHH...I miss those days.


Fiero Thomas (tom@fieronews.net) MSG #703, 10-25-2010 06:48 PM
      Put me in line for one of these noses. Great work.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #704, 11-10-2010 01:32 AM
     


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #705, 11-10-2010 02:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:



yessssssss !


JPH87 (jphofeldt@msn.com) MSG #706, 11-11-2010 04:11 PM
      Nice Looking mold. bumper looks real good but that mold looks very good. I know I'm a glass geek

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #707, 11-12-2010 09:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JPH87:

Nice Looking mold. bumper looks real good but that mold looks very good. I know I'm a glass geek


Dan (Fiberglass expert for Fiero Fiberglass) has over 20 years experience in building multi million dollar fiberglass boats from scratch.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #708, 11-29-2010 09:27 AM
      One of Three:



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #709, 12-06-2010 06:18 PM
      1 of 3: completed.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #710, 12-07-2010 02:01 AM
     







This week Jan 5th, 2011 I hope to pick-up the nose at the Greyhound station.

update: Nose is somewhere in transit. I'll check back on Friday.

UNDER THE CLOAK OF DARKNESS:

I arrived about 04:45 in the morning-way before the crack of dawn. I didn't want to drive 100 miles (round trip) so I decided to "bite the bullet," brave the freezing weather, and drive with the top down.



The nose arrived this past Saturday.

10JAN2011:

I took part of the day off trying to get some sleep. I called Dan (the man) to tell him about the great job he did on the heavily modified Fiero nose. Even the way the nose was wrapped indicated perfection. Heck, I took the time to split and cut the wrapping-just incase I need to send a nose back for additional tweaking. Every angle of the nose was perfectly covered and protected.



Despite that-the package took 7-days for delivery due in part of bad weather, but I'm okay with that since Greyhound took good care in shipping the part to CA from FL. They did poke a hole in the pic, but no damage. The nose rode on several trips-five total. At the end of the day, Greyhound is better than UPS & FedX especially on the cost.



Once again-excellent packaging. Time and care was clearly seen here.





Excellent workmanship inside and out.



I'll need to save the skins for later shipping (just in case), hehe.


Vents are more aggressive and wider-just the way a Fiero should be.





The side vents (I'll have them cut out prior to paint)



During the production stage, Dan informed me that the nose is very aggressive and the picture doesn't capture the true look of the nose. I now believe him.



All eyes on #015.



The nose is freakishly aggressive. The rake is unbelievable!







I didn't have enough time to mount the nose. My good neighbor spotted me putting on the nose, so we chatted a few. I'll resume on Tuesday, but I might heat-up the garage and get the nose on later tonight. I have to cut some portion of the egg crate away since the main opening are directly above the egg crate material.

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #711, 12-07-2010 02:08 AM
      nice, now it's time to paint the car.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #712, 01-11-2011 02:42 PM
      Now that is tweeking !

Man i love the aero nose, i just think it needs a little love, and that is exactly what you did ! No need to re-invent the wheel, just give it a little twist, awesome job Dan.

Troy did the same thing on the Perfect Union, and both give a refreshing more exotic look to the standard fiero nose.

Curly i am shocked the vendors are not lining up to have you design products for them, considering some of the blah stuff i have seen cranked out in the past.

You and Troy have taken the fiero to unchartered territory that i don't think even the boys at GM would have dreamed up.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #713, 01-11-2011 05:25 PM
      This pic is a inside joke, hehe.



It never cease to amaze me that when ever I get the time to work on my cars-it's freakishly cold.

I bought this space heater last year. The other heaters pass out on me. Let's see how long it will last!


I had to remove the egg crate cushion for now. I'll cut away the part that's in the way of the two main openings.






Not to high and not too low.





Truly a Fiero nose-just tweaked.



The official height without a drop. I think this height is low enough for me.





A real world measurement.



Although I won't be using the stock turn signals-the clearance and openings are near perfect.



Barely enough clearance on the sides.





I saw a friends Porsche and he used a mesh screen around his PIAA fog lamps. I think I'll be doing the same.











The Theme: The aggressive dual front openings matches the duel hood vents.



Next on the list is the mounting of the driving lamp and PIAA lamps from troyboy. Thanks Troy.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #714, 01-11-2011 09:21 PM
      Pipe dreams are real.

before pic:


After pic:



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #715, 01-11-2011 09:56 PM
     

Curly you have a serious tire collection going on there.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #716, 01-12-2011 02:25 AM
      before:



after:



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #717, 01-12-2011 02:29 PM
      Cell phone video. It's horrible-I know, hehe.



katatak MSG #718, 01-12-2011 05:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly you have a serious tire collection going on there.


Or is it a tire addiction?????


jscott1 MSG #719, 01-13-2011 11:14 PM
      Looking good... Can't wait until #14 comes out of hibernation...

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #720, 01-18-2011 03:24 PM
      A little confused.

Madcurl you using the lights in this pic ?



Or the ones in the following pic ?

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GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #721, 01-18-2011 05:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

A little confused.

Madcurl you using the lights in this pic ?



Or the ones in the following pic ?





There he goes changing things up again. lol


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #722, 01-20-2011 01:50 AM
     

Curly any word on operation Hail Mary ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #723, 01-20-2011 03:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly any word on operation Hail Mary ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass


I need to call him on Thursdays for the details.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #724, 01-26-2011 10:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

What's up with the wheel gap on the daily driver !??



You know how the old saying goes,...it's (the wheelgap) too big, it's too big !! hehehe


The Problem solver came in the mail, hehe.



Fully adjustable coil-overs.




PRFiero (romanp@miamidade.gov) MSG #725, 01-30-2011 09:29 PM
      Are these for sale? If so how much they are going for? are they going to be available in Daytona?

JimmyS (imezru1967@hotmail.com) MSG #726, 01-31-2011 08:10 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PRFiero:

Are these for sale? If so how much they are going for? are they going to be available in Daytona?


If your talking about the Front Bumper, the answers are no & no


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #727, 04-30-2011 02:39 PM
      #015: You're next!




FierociousGT MSG #728, 05-01-2011 07:56 AM
      @madcurl
Are we EVER going to see any of these cars finish besides #11.... Well I guess number #11 is under the knife again...

PS
I do think exoticse will be finish before any of your x5 will.





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #729, 05-01-2011 08:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:

@madcurl
Are we EVER going to see any of these cars finish besides #11.... Well I guess number #11 is under the knife again...

PS
I do think exoticse will be finish before any of your x5 will.





Well, you know I like to multi-task. If Tony and you could would bring your cars to D12 (completed)-that would help. I could then drop #015 off at Dan's place and have the tweaking performed and fly out to D12. Hmm...


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #730, 05-05-2011 02:08 PM
      When will work commence ?

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #731, 05-12-2011 01:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

When will work commence ?



During Octoberfest.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #732, 06-09-2011 01:17 AM
     

Curly i know they are top secret, but have you finalized the Mad Arch tweeks for #15 or are there things you are still considering ??


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #733, 06-09-2011 01:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly i know they are top secret, but have you finalized the Mad Arch tweeks for #15 or are there things you are still considering ??


Those tweak were finalized months ago after I got the sail glass window. I did my crude measurements and called Trendzs for windows. Once I realized they fit like a glove all things started to come together including the nose tweaks from Dan in FL. Dan was really the icing on the cake for without nose tweaks-why bother. The MadArch wide body kit needs a nose to match the rest of the body. After all, you can't place every tweak on one car. You need two or more. Otherwise the car appears too busy.








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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #734, 06-09-2011 05:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly i know they are top secret, but have you finalized the Mad Arch tweeks for #15 or are there things you are still considering ??


Not really that much of a secret. The drawing I made is several years old. However, I wanted to use the correct sail glass. That's wasn't easy since that would require that I hunt down a window. I found several, but I think this one flows much better with the MadArch kit. I'll have WCF make the aluminum bracket and remaining sail sides. In my mind I think this going to turn out very nice.


 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:I hope to attach the remaining parts on Thursday to see how the kits flow.


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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #735, 08-10-2011 01:36 AM
      Curly,

Ever consider a tweek like this on the Mad Arch kit ?







madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #736, 08-10-2011 04:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Curly,

Ever consider a tweek like this on the Mad Arch kit ?




I now what you mean, but the L700 has a "dead-zone" (due to the extended area) and the added reverse vent adds "pop" to the area. On the MadArch kit the area is already popping due to the ltd size plus the little flare in front of the tire. To add anything more might (IMHO) become too busy. Granted, you could make the flare in front of the rear tire more pronounced (flared out more so), but that's about all I would do. I'm focusing my ideas in a different area. The neat thing about the MadArch kit is the rocker. It's an old idea that is shared among many exotics, but the IRM rocker has been around for so long that it is excepted as the true DNA of the Fiero. The only real differences is the the MadArch rocker kit is the tweaked the angle, widened it, and added a small flare in an otherwise dull area. The same can be said of the rear bumper & front fenders. You can glass everything as-is, but IHMO you never bolt-on on a part. You make it your own by tweaking it first.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #737, 08-11-2011 11:40 AM
     



Notice that the area of the L700-4 and that of the MadArch kit. The L700 has an extended section and without the added reverse flare that space would be dull.






Adding anything more would create clutter and rice-0-roni look. Besides, you never want to copy anything that is an iconic feature. The same holds true for those with Ferrari door fins. My goodness I've seen them on Shaq's truck. At best start fresh and avoid noses and rear ends that are truly a knock-off from Ferrari, Lamborghini or who ever is at the moment-on top.


CETICARS MSG #738, 08-23-2011 10:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

1 of 3: completed.



Who make those doors in the back ground of this picture any other pictures of those doors mounted

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #739, 08-24-2011 12:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CETICARS:


Who make those doors in the back ground of this picture any other pictures of those doors mounted



http://www.fierofiberglass....20Pages/Lizardo.html


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #740, 09-27-2011 12:49 AM
     
Back of the line.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #741, 10-20-2011 11:29 AM
     

Ok Curly,....the clock is now ticking on your end of year prediction !!



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #742, 12-25-2011 05:28 PM
     
tick, tick, tick,.......


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #743, 12-29-2011 07:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


tick, tick, tick,.......


#015 will be shipped for special tweaking. The MadArch widebody will be modified into a Ferrari replica...NOT! I have a several drawings that will enhance the kit. I think it will look better than #020, but will see.

Digging, I found my old PIAA fog lamps (the large one on the left).









madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #744, 02-22-2012 10:40 PM
      Testing a 19x9 on #015 today. Looks good and the wheel appears to be either at or just passed the lip. It fit perfectly for #011.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #745, 03-09-2012 08:51 PM
     

Curly i think it is about time to make that call !



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #746, 03-15-2012 11:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly i think it is about time to make that call !



I got a transporter number yesterday. If not I'll have to "get to the chopper!"


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #747, 04-20-2012 04:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Curly i think it is about time to make that call !



 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Right now, I'm making plans for #015 to be either shipped out or driven out.






madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #748, 05-19-2012 05:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Look what "Brown" dropped off today. The MadArch fender flares.





I've been looking for a set of Niche Pultec rims for many years now. I finally found two wheels on Ebay for a cheap price. My work car wheels are 18x7 (baby-ish), but these are 18x8.5. When I purchased them they were chromed. I sent the wheel to a shop in southern CA. Here's the first wheel prior to boxing it up to me for delivery.



Wheel Dynamics straighened the wheel (slightly bent) and re-chromed the outer lip and re-painted the center piece. They forgot to paint the center cap, but will complete the task once I send them the other wheel. The color is slightly off, but they tried to match the color using my center cap. The wheels are a two piece design and are aluminum made in Japan. I bought the wheels in 1999 and I should've bought two extra wheels just in case you happened to break a wheel beyond repair. I'll use the wider wheels in the rear. I decided to have the lip chrome since polishing wheels is nice, but not on a work car.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #749, 05-23-2012 02:19 AM
     



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #750, 05-23-2012 11:32 AM
      Great company here in Anaheim that fixed a pair of Niche Pultec wheel I got cheap on Ebay late or early this year. The wheels were slightly bent with road rash and were all chromed. I had them strip the chrome, fix the warped wheel, and re-chrome the other lip. The result are great! As you can see they tried to match the color, but it's close enough. This is what happens when you buy off the shelf wheels-they don't make them anymore.

Anyway, the two rear wheels are 18x8.5 vs. 18x7 and the outer lip are a tiny bit wider. Also, I got tired of hand buffing my wheels every six months or so. Anyway, I just need to mount them and I'm all good. I'll have the fronts re-tweaked too. The company is called Wesden wheel works. I tried local shops and they didn't want to touch the wheels and HRE doesn't work on other wheels except their own.








The stock front wheel in need of a serious polishing.




troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #751, 08-04-2012 04:58 PM
     

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #752, 08-05-2012 02:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:



Waiting for the door to open at V8Archie's.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #753, 08-06-2012 10:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Waiting for the door to open at V8Archie's.


We need to get going with this.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #754, 09-06-2012 02:43 PM
     

Ok Troy's car is gone from Archie's so now there is an open slot !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #755, 09-07-2012 02:03 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by exoticse:
Ok Troy's car is gone from Archie's so now there is an open slot !


Getting the correct parts needed for the NSX headlamps. I want to get them first before #015 arrives at V8Archies. Those NSX lights aren't cheap.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #756, 09-12-2012 02:44 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by exoticse:
Ok Troy's car is gone from Archie's so now there is an open slot !


I just got off the phone with V8Archie going over some details. #015 will sport the NSX and Audi driving lights using the MadCurl front bumper. This build should be lots of fun! It will be called, "The Arch Nemesis," hehe.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #757, 10-13-2012 12:06 AM
      Bump!




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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #758, 11-22-2012 02:59 AM
     


Neeeeeeexxxxxxt !!


rpro (rwprobst@yahoo.com) MSG #759, 11-22-2012 09:47 AM
      A chopapalooza at Daytona would be cool

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #760, 12-29-2012 02:02 PM
     

I spoken to Archie and it looks like #015 will be headed to his shop in JAN 2013!


psychosurfer MSG #761, 01-07-2013 02:41 PM
      Well, my chop has been done for a couple months. We are now working the bugs out of the engine swap. However, we are still without side glass. Archie will have glass available in a few months, but Id like something in there to ride around in the mean time. Does anyone have old lexan they would like to sell (or spare glass)??


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #762, 01-16-2013 09:04 PM
      I finally got around to mounting the custom rear bumper and I think it looks good.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #763, 01-21-2013 06:41 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by madcurl:

I finally got around to mounting the custom rear bumper and I think it looks good.



any more shots ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #764, 01-21-2013 08:29 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by exoticse:


any more shots ?


You got mail..

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #765, 01-21-2013 09:56 PM
     

Ask and you shall recieve !



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #766, 01-22-2013 02:26 PM
     
This one should come together a lot faster than some of the others since a lot of the components like the nose and the rear are already done !?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #767, 01-24-2013 07:34 PM
      1. Officially purchased in 2004
2. 10-19-2004 -to V8Archie for a chop.
3. 11-16-2004- back to Cali
4. 01-10-2005 -to Trends body shop for tweaking.
5. 03-21-2005-To Florida for VDC and custom dash.
6. 11-08-2005 -Leaves FL shop and headed back to Cali.
7. 11-01-2005 -Arrives back in Cali.
8. Back at Trends for retweaking.
9. 2006-2013-car is lays dorment for 7 yrs!!!

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #768, 01-25-2013 08:21 PM
      The transport bidding has begun.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #769, 02-04-2013 10:02 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by madcurl:

The transport bidding has begun.


And the result is ??


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #770, 02-14-2013 10:28 AM
      Loaded yet ??

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #771, 02-14-2013 05:45 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by exoticse:

Loaded yet ??





Tony I'm not sure if Curley even posts on PFF anymore.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #772, 03-15-2013 05:54 PM
      I hear that some cool things are about to happen to this ride

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #773, 10-31-2013 08:57 PM
      ooops,...did i post that ??

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #774, 10-29-2016 12:52 PM
      bump for the SEMA crew