SPY PICS!....first secrets of the GTR exposed!
Topic started by: Fie Ro, Date: 07-21-2003 07:25 AM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000095.html


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #1, 07-21-2003 07:25 AM
      In this thread I will tease you with some features of the upcoming GTR

About 2 years ago I decided to paint my Fiero. At that time I thought it was a good time to do the body mods before painting. I saw some nice mods on this forum and I had several ideas of my own. Finally (designing your own parts takes hours, days,weeks, months etc!) I am in the process of switching the modified bodypanels to my Fiero. about 75% is on the car, except the rear Altezza lights, frontbumper and roofscoop (next weeks). All parts are still in primer and without grills.

Here are first some "can you guess what this is" pictures! Lets play the game! enjoy



tesmith66 MSG #2, 07-21-2003 08:12 AM
      Looks like a decklid with a Mustang scoop and the vents molded in.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #3, 07-21-2003 08:43 AM
      Mustangscoop: Yes
Vents molded in: No

another vent molded in? maybe

this vent is named after some race-series



Kohburn MSG #4, 07-21-2003 08:57 AM
      so we have the decklid with mustang scoop and some sort of molded in vent -
then a molded in front hood vent -
and a front bumper extension of some sort?


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #5, 07-21-2003 09:02 AM
      Ok I will give the answer on the first picture:

nascar vents molded in, inline with the stock vents (and functional)!

Kohburn: you are right about the first 2 but doesn't the 3rd looks more like a rearbumper? ;D



Kohburn MSG #6, 07-21-2003 09:17 AM
      if you made a rear bumper that the exhaust tips actually go through and not under then I want some pictures!!!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #7, 07-21-2003 09:45 AM
      kohburn: this might be your lucky day

Remember: This is without paint, racing mesh and the 4 new 4" tailpipes:

here you will see some more:

While I am at it : modified Meechamscoop (removed 2 ribs) and molded to the original skirts a set of M3 sideskirts.

* but there's more *

Do you like it so far?


Kohburn MSG #8, 07-21-2003 09:55 AM
      love it - make me a rear bumper

James Bond 007 MSG #9, 07-21-2003 10:02 AM
      That looks awsome ....I think I wet my self.he,he,he...........

Kohburn MSG #10, 07-21-2003 10:02 AM
      knowing me tho, I would have a trailor hitch poking through the center mesh section

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #11, 07-21-2003 10:17 AM
      kohburn: your bumper will be ready next week, soon enough?
it is trailer-hitch compatible

I might make a mold of it though. I might HAVE to make a mold because I am not completely satisfied about the "smooth" seams holding up as everything is molded into a standard bumper. I am driving it daily so weak points will become clear soon. For the front I will make a mold for sure...

the front hood scoop/vent:

do you see the little joke in this one? :




Kohburn MSG #12, 07-21-2003 10:30 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

kohburn: your bumper will be ready next week, soon enough?
it is trailer-hitch compatible

I might make a mold of it though. I might HAVE to make a mold because I am not completely satisfied about the "smooth" seams holding up as everything is molded into a standard bumper. I am driving it daily so weak points will become clear soon. For the front I will make a mold for sure...

you should make molds - i'm sure a fabricator would be interested in purchasing it if there were enough people interested in it.

 
quote

the front hood scoop/vent:

I was expecting all 4 places to be open.. any plans for this?

 
quote

do you see the little joke in this one? :


lol - looks like it'd get used as a handle

[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 07-21-2003).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #13, 07-21-2003 11:26 AM
      quote
you should make molds - i'm sure a fabricator would be interested in purchasing it if there were enough people interested in it.

* I am considering it but I am changing things all the time during the process, there are always issues when working on it... And parts have to be compatible with original parts OR sold as a complete kit so thats something to look into later.....first it will take some more hours to get the car finished and painted

quote

the front hood scoop/vent:

I was expecting all 4 places to be open.. any plans for this?

quote

* No. First I wanted a vent like the opel Speedster so I divided the front in proportional 4 grids (2 of the headlightcovers, cut out the 2 middle pieces. But with a horizontal mesh there would be too much water coming in so I was fiddling with the 2 pieces and put them back (with an angle)and this is the result. Its the first part I made. I would make it different now the rest is almost finished

do you see the little joke in this one? :

lol - looks like it'd get used as a handle

*yup!

Kohburn MSG #14, 07-21-2003 11:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
* No. First I wanted a vent like the opel Speedster so I divided the front in proportional 4 grids (2 of the headlightcovers, cut out the 2 middle pieces. But with a horizontal mesh there would be too much water coming in so I was fiddling with the 2 pieces and put them back (with an angle)and this is the result. Its the first part I made. I would make it different now the rest is almost finished


hmm can't visualize this - have any pics that'd help?


ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #15, 07-21-2003 11:42 AM
      way to go dutchy

Smoooooth GT MSG #16, 07-21-2003 01:09 PM
      Very cool rear bumper and grnd/fx...



stevenrossi (stevenrossi49@hotmail.com) MSG #17, 07-21-2003 05:59 PM
      I dont like it, not one bit...as a matter of fact you're better off just shipping that garbage over here to me . Very sweet looking modifications, you've done some great glass work on your car. Keep it up!

Steven Rossi



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #18, 07-21-2003 06:22 PM
      I love it! The NACA ducts, the deckscoop (got it), the rear fascia, and the side skirts (got 'em too, but installed the other direction).

I very much like what you're doing with the car - I'd really like to hear more about what/how you made the rear bumper (materials, etc).



KRMFiero (kyle@oceanstatetuning.com) MSG #19, 07-21-2003 07:49 PM
      I want M3 skirts.... what car did you get them for? where did you buy them?

Kyle

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #20, 07-21-2003 08:49 PM
      Very original rear bumper! Your fiberglassing work is incredible, and you chose an excellent variety of kits and scoops to mix together.

sardonyx247 (sardonyx247@yahoo.com) MSG #21, 07-21-2003 11:14 PM
      I like the back deck lid the best very good idea to help fan out the flames when it ignightes.....j/k. But honestly VERY nice back deck lid.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #22, 07-22-2003 07:53 AM
      Thanks for the great replies! It gives me the courage to go on and finish it.

minngreen: I already saw you have the sideskirts too. The rearbumper was...eh almost "sculpted" I started with a frame of wood and lots of foam(board) and than the sculpting began. After that I glassed everything in and the sanding filling sanding filling sanding and sanding began. I have made some changes, last addition were 2 leftover pieces of the sideskirts which I had in my hand when looking at the rear bumper.....well they are in the midsection now

KRMfiero: The M3 skirts are a universal set. You cut a piece off to make them fit. There were 2 end caps with scoops with them but I didn't use them (didn't look right). Then I took my original skirts off and molded the M3's to them. They make the bodyshape more fluid and modern...

When I am finished I will write down the whole process of idea/planning/building the several parts so people can see whats involved and maybe use this info for their own projects.

Because it is fun to make your own parts!

Still not everything is on the car but I will update this thread when there's progress (and pictures



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #23, 07-22-2003 10:31 AM
      I'm extremely impressed... especially with the rear bumper- every time I look at that pic, it makes me want to go out and get started on a new project!

As for the side skirts... there was/is more discussion here: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/031215.html (I just got mine installed on the car Tuesday night before I left for Michigan... only a touch of blending left to do).

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #24, 07-22-2003 12:00 PM
      I have missed the thread about the M3 skirts. Thanks. I see yours have an upper ridge. Mine was flat and I cut off about an inch from the top part ( It still is more than an inch lower at the wheels!) But the rearbumper is lower also and I will try to keep the front bumper in line with the rest of the body. I still haven't had any problem with those speedbumps which we have a lot overhere so thats a +.

What I did: I took off the originals, sanded them. Put one layer of resin and polyester cloth on the originals and immediately put on the M3's with clamps. I thought a layer of the polyester cloth would be helping for maximum contact surface (the M3's were a bit rough on the inside)
later I filled the seam on the top ridge and front/rear side. It is smooth and seems to hold well.

The only problem is the M3's are more pointing outwards because the original is pointing outwards a bit. I didn't expect that! But after painting everything should look more uniform.

About painting:
I was going for a flashy color (like the orange of 1fst2M6) but with all those vents I am looking for a darker modern metallic (gun metal grey/ olive metallic) and a black roof section.

Is it true that a darker color "disguises" a bit of the smaller details? It would be nice you would discover those details only when you get closer to the car......

I dont want this car to be "over the top" but more classy....... So no stickertuning on mine! It is only getting a "GTR" sticker.

Oh BTW respect to Smooooooth Steve, he really is the King of Glassfiber and Filler



hoola47 (c.doerr@tvdsb.on.ca) MSG #25, 07-22-2003 02:38 PM
      Simply awesome, love the side skirts, someday....I will have a pair too.



blakeinspace (blakeinspace@yahoo.com) MSG #26, 07-22-2003 06:14 PM
      Do you mind showing some more pics of your hood? Different angles/further away...

I like what you've done to the rear facia. I can only imagine the time spent sanding!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #27, 07-22-2003 09:44 PM
     

Some of you guys are just flat out incredible !

That is some awesome work my friend.

Gordo MSG #28, 07-22-2003 09:51 PM
      Very impressive workmanship!



David Bartlett (dlb@cogeco.ca) MSG #29, 07-22-2003 11:12 PM
      Are the side skirts fiberglass or ABS? And approx. how much did you pay if you dont mind me asking.

[This message has been edited by David Bartlett (edited 07-23-2003).]

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #30, 07-23-2003 03:16 PM
      I happened to notice the outward angle you mentioned prior to gluing mine up... so I actually removed all but the upper area (approx 1-2" depending on location) of the stock rocker before attaching them.

These are the only "finished" pics I currently have (need to take some with better light).

And they do sit quite notably lower... but amazingly I've never had them rub anywhere either (and my car has been lowered), even when running it hard at Waterford raceway last week!

BTW: I'd love to see your car finished in either of the modern dark metallics you mentioned... very exotic looking

vortecfiero (vortecfiero@hotmail.com) MSG #31, 07-23-2003 07:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Ok I will give the answer on the first picture:

nascar vents molded in, inline with the stock vents (and functional)!

Kohburn: you are right about the first 2 but doesn't the 3rd looks more like a rearbumper? ;D


That would be NACA.
http://www.up22.com/Aerodynamics.htm#NacaDucts
"NACA stands for "National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics" and is one of the predecessors of NASA. In the early days of aviation, NACA would mathematically define airfoils - e.g., NACA 071 - and publish them in large reference texts, from which aircraft manufacturers would select for their specific applications. As you probably know, an airfoil is a compromise of lift versus drag, and this relationship changes with the airflow velocity, density, etc, so no one airfoil is optimal for all conditions. As to the NACA duct, I'm trying to say this without sounding professional, but here it is in case you're interested.
The purpose of the duct is to increase the flowrate of air through it while disturbing the aerodynamic boundary layer around the fairing as little as possible. When you increase the cross-sectional flow area of the duct, you decrease the static pressure and make the duct into a sort of vacuum cleaner, but without the drag effects of a plain scoop. The reason why the duct is very narrow, then suddenly widens in a graceful arc is to increase the cross-sectional area, but not so quickly that the airflow separates and causes turbulence (and drag)."




ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #32, 07-23-2003 07:29 PM
      Eh Fie ro.. i think vortecfiero is right,,i think u should take all that hard work ,blood,sweat in to it and trash it...no no sorry i just think vortecfiero should find something better to crap about,,SINCE THIS GUY HAS DONE NOTHING TO MAKE THIS FORUM ABETTER PLACE..eh tough guy where is ur car..lets see this rust bucket???ik hou van de auto

L44_87GT MSG #33, 07-23-2003 08:01 PM
      Nice!



stimpy (jefferystillwell@_sbcglobal.net) MSG #34, 07-23-2003 10:50 PM
      ducattiman, don't be shy. Tell us how you really feel...

Vortec Fiero was technically correct, but then again, so what? First off, I'd like to see his posting skills in Dutch, secondly, the vents look cool, and that's really all that it's about.

Fie Ro, thanks for posting your accomplishments. It definately makes me itchy to get another Fiero when I get back to California.

Riceburner98 (riceburner98@gmail.com) MSG #35, 07-24-2003 12:10 AM
      Hmm... Want to buy some nice "GTR" rear GT windows? I bought them at the 20th, but I'm not sure if they're going to go with the car or not yet... They're reproductions, and have the "GT" logo, but it says "GTR" with the R in the usual red writing. I may sell them at some point, I need to get the car in one piece to see what they'll look like!



Capt Fiero (captfiero@captfiero.com) MSG #36, 07-24-2003 12:19 AM
      I cant wait to see that thing when it is painted all one colour.



pred1tor83 (pred1tor83@yahoo.com) MSG #37, 07-24-2003 12:40 AM
      HEHEH my business i own is regestered in texas with a tax id number and it is GTR


Global Tech Racing.


Sorry i know its out there but its late and i am pissed at my broken fiero.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #38, 07-24-2003 07:33 AM
      This is the only picture of the finished hood I have around for now:


There is no cutting of the front trunk required. I have the sunroof and I still like to be able to store it up front.

About the NACA ducts: They may be used in an other way. BUT I have tested this configuration in my windtunnel and it shows 10HP extra at the rear wheels!
that's enough for me!

GTR windows. I still have to order a set (from Doug/Fierowarehouse?) but I have designed my own GTR logo so I will look for a set without logo....
If someone has a nice set of new GT windows without logo for sale I might be interested!

Minngreen: thats a nice solution you have for your skirts! I hadn't thought of that. real clean. For now I keep mine this way but IF I am going to change it I know now how to do it! Thanks

The M3 skirts were fiberglass. They cost 205 euro (arout $200) which is quite normal for sideskirts.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #39, 07-24-2003 07:39 AM
      Latest addition: TWIN TRUNK EXTENSIONS!

sorry, couldn't resist

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #40, 07-24-2003 07:42 AM
      double post

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 08-20-2003).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #41, 08-20-2003 06:58 AM
      Here are pictures of the roofscoop I made myself. It is semifunctional: it lets air in and it lets air out!
I made a spoilerlike shape at the rear and an opening to let the air out (+10HP
This one fits fiero's with a sunroof, it will be between the windshield at the sunroof. I am going to smooth it in with the roofsection. The front edge of the scoop has the same curve as the edge of thye windshield...



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #42, 08-20-2003 08:50 AM
      found another related picture:

1st pair is my backup set
second pair: the modified ones which are on my car for years now. (Kolja see I did your mod! )
third pair: the Honda prelude altezza's. Got them prewired now and almost ready to go in the back (finaly after 2 years!)


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #43, 08-20-2003 09:23 AM
      another double post grrrr.

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 08-20-2003).]

cire36 (duncan863@gmail.com) MSG #44, 08-21-2003 12:22 PM
      How did you make the rear lower facia addition?

LZeitgeist (lzeitgeist@aol.com) MSG #45, 08-21-2003 03:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

nascar vents molded in, inline with the stock vents (and functional)!

Those aren't 'nascar vents'... those are 'NACA ducts'. They are named after the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (the forerunner to NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration).

They're also pretty cool-looking. Good work!

EDIT - oops!! Somebody already covered this, and in much better detail. Tha's what I get for not reading the rest of the thread... :: blush ::



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #46, 08-21-2003 03:44 PM
      the rear lower facia really is the original mockup.there is a small basic woodenframe which I covered with a kind of foam (L+R side) Then I sculpted the foam to the lines of the bumper. Covered it with some layers of fiberglass (thinner layers towards the original bumper). Then houres of smoothing and sanding. It sounds quite easy but I made many changes during the process...

Well.this was made from scratch!
I have several drawings made but the final product is totally different!

I have some doubts whether these two different materials will hold up. I have made a few repairs and drive the car like normal to see if serious cracks appear. If so I will have to make a mold and a one piece product.

I finally have the right gelcoat and release wax to make a good mold. I already destroyed some small molds due to wrong materials. So It takes some confidence to try that again...

But I better do the job well now, then discovering cracks in my fresh paint later



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #47, 08-21-2003 03:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by LZeitgeist:
Those aren't 'nascar vents'... those are 'NACA ducts'. They are named after the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (the forerunner to NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration).

I am sorry . I thought "naca" was a short name for "nascar". I also know they are in the wrong direction. First this is just an designlike idea. I made them a bit functional to vent hot air out (trust me they're at a quite good position for venting). And water coming in thru the vents/ducts follows the same route as the water from the sides of the decklid.



Smoooooth GT MSG #48, 08-21-2003 05:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
(finaly after 2 years!)

HAHA.. Sound's like me... FINALLY IS CLOSE!!

Looking Cool!!

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #49, 08-21-2003 09:19 PM
      Get some pics of those taillights installed! It'll be one of a kind for sure. Excellent work.



bryson MSG #50, 08-22-2003 12:24 AM
      Car looks GREAT!
Did you make your side scoops as well?
Are they the whole panel?
I like the way they look. Any chance of any on the market?

Thanks!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #51, 08-22-2003 05:13 AM
      Bryson:The sidescoops are actual Meecham copies, I just removed the 2 fins on the intake and smoothed them... The M3 skirt is a seperate piece molded to the original Fiero -skirt. They mount to the quarterpanel just like the original.

 
quote
Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:

HAHA.. Sound's like me... FINALLY IS CLOSE!!

Looking Cool!!

Smoooooth: YOU should know you have to be a bit mad to start these jobs !

(Psssssjt: I talk to myself too!)

No I dont! .....Yes I do!........Well press the submit reply button then........ The what button?....Ok I will do it myself.... No nono I already see it...




LZeitgeist (lzeitgeist@aol.com) MSG #52, 08-22-2003 06:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

I am sorry . I thought "naca" was a short name for "nascar". I also know they are in the wrong direction. First this is just an designlike idea. I made them a bit functional to vent hot air out (trust me they're at a quite good position for venting). And water coming in thru the vents/ducts follows the same route as the water from the sides of the decklid.


Oh, I wasn't pickin' on your designs, not a bit. I think they're pretty cool...

I'm just a long-time NASA fan/geek, and I figured that you'd like to know the accurate term for what you were showing off.... no worries, just tryin' ta help.



vortecfiero (vortecfiero@hotmail.com) MSG #53, 08-22-2003 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ducattiman:

Eh Fie ro.. i think vortecfiero is right,,i think u should take all that hard work ,blood,sweat in to it and trash it...no no sorry i just think vortecfiero should find something better to crap about,,SINCE THIS GUY HAS DONE NOTHING TO MAKE THIS FORUM ABETTER PLACE..eh tough guy where is ur car..lets see this rust bucket???ik hou van de auto

before Syclone transplant (inprogress)





ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #54, 08-22-2003 06:24 PM
      like i said where is ur pic of the car..i dont care of what engine u hav in ur car,,that is not the point here,,i want to see ur body(like rusted out hood,doors,roof)u can post all the pics of ur engine all u want..i want to ur car body,,


Smoooooth GT MSG #55, 08-22-2003 07:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ducattiman:

i want to see ur body(like rusted out hood,doors,roof) i want to ur car body,,


Plastic car's don't rust...
You want what??


vortecfiero (vortecfiero@hotmail.com) MSG #56, 08-22-2003 09:11 PM
      i really can respect the work that was done here especialy the hood vent, but i thought it might be of interest to know the truth,,,,

its really nice to shift into 5th at 200kph
and watch the looks on other drivers faces

im into stealth mode, a sleeper, it keeps the cops off my back and i dont have to waste my time with wannbe ricers

performance is truth, pretty is candy coating, a finish, a way to tie form and function. With no function it is art. There is nothing funnier than a pretty car that has does not have a balance of performance as well (but this was not my point in my earlier post)



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #57, 08-22-2003 11:03 PM
      In this thread I am showing only what I am doing to the body to give people some ideas, Like I saw mods from other people here and I got my ideas.

This is not about performance, trust me I have plans for the powerplant next year
(not talking about the interior yet pfff there goes my sparetime!)

But first I focused at the appearance of the car, maybe it's just because it is my job to (try to) make things look good (and still not satisfied)

Driving these cars for about 6 years I learned a lot about them and for me it is now a perfect platform for a nice customized.....well I may say: sportscar

If I had a Ferrari I wouldn't dare to modify it myself...but this Fiero is really MY CAR!

Within a week I should have the pictures of the new exhaust parts and tips, pictures of the rear clip (for the altezza's) and the mockup of the nose.... slowly everything is coming together

edit: nothing really rusts on my Fiero, except the crappy exhaust they (hmmm) put on my fiero. The left side tips actually fell off during driving! Thats why I am changing some of these parts. They are clamped in stead of welded so I can use them for...another engine?.... as well.



GTDude (skyhawk@moonstar.com) MSG #58, 08-23-2003 12:14 AM
      OMG...........EXHAUST THRU THE FACIA?????

I'D HAVE TO CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY B E F O R E I EVEN CRANKED IT UP!!!!!

TALK ABOUT AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.....TO ME.........LOL..........

PHIL



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #59, 08-23-2003 09:47 AM
      GTDude: You should stay away from EVERY Fiero

Now give the matches back to mama

Monza76 MSG #60, 08-23-2003 04:01 PM
      Very nice work, I just finished a very modest first project, a vented hood, but yours looks great.

BTW it looks great with no wing, I hope you are planning to leave it that way.

Ira

[This message has been edited by Monza76 (edited 08-23-2003).]

maryjane MSG #61, 08-23-2003 05:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

GTDude: You should stay away from EVERY Fiero

Now give the matches back to mama


Phil,(GTDude), Your place in Fiero history is assurred. You have attained global name recognition, & ya just got a trans-Atlantic whuppin!!

Fie Ro-Clean, flowing, functional lines. It looks great. I'm so envious-I can't fiberglas 2 sticks together.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #62, 08-24-2003 07:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Monza76:
BTW it looks great with no wing, I hope you are planning to leave it that way.

Ira

[This message has been edited by Monza76 (edited 08-23-2003).]

Yes, there will be no wing.I think a Fiero looks better without it. And now I can show off the rear vents and scoop . However if you see a wingless fiero next to a "winged" fiero it looks like someting is missing

IF I would want to put on a wing, it is too late, already sold the wing

vortecfiero (vortecfiero@hotmail.com) MSG #63, 08-24-2003 09:34 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

In this thread I am showing only what I am doing to the body to give people some ideas, Like I saw mods from other people here and I got my ideas.

This is not about performance, trust me I have plans for the powerplant next year
(not talking about the interior yet pfff there goes my sparetime!)

But first I focused at the appearance of the car, maybe it's just because it is my job to (try to) make things look good (and still not satisfied)

Driving these cars for about 6 years I learned a lot about them and for me it is now a perfect platform for a nice customized.....well I may say: sportscar

If I had a Ferrari I wouldn't dare to modify it myself...but this Fiero is really MY CAR!

Within a week I should have the pictures of the new exhaust parts and tips, pictures of the rear clip (for the altezza's) and the mockup of the nose.... slowly everything is coming together

edit: nothing really rusts on my Fiero, except the crappy exhaust they (hmmm) put on my fiero. The left side tips actually fell off during driving! Thats why I am changing some of these parts. They are clamped in stead of welded so I can use them for...another engine?.... as well.

I figured you would also up the performance
which is why i posted this after my tirade
 
quote
There is nothing funnier than a pretty car that has does not have a balance of performance as well (but this was not my point in my earlier post)




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #64, 08-26-2003 09:50 AM
      This is one of the new tips. I couldn't find a (good size) Y pipe so I had to make them myself with a bit of help

this is a GTR logo which I will paint and put in my trunk cover which I already made (pics when finished)


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #65, 08-26-2003 10:02 AM
      Some quick snaps of the interior (car is really dirty inside and outside). It is not quite stock anymore but sooner or later I will ditch this dash





stuartlowery (stuart@texasfieros.com) MSG #66, 08-26-2003 01:04 PM
      Watch out for those Diamond tread floor pans. Especially if you run NOS!

Ok For real though Like the tip that you mad. Looks good.

Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #67, 08-26-2003 02:35 PM
      Wow! That's very nice body work. You may win the "most scoope" award



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #68, 09-01-2003 05:51 AM
      here is another shot of the hoodvents

and here's a first pic of the rough mockup for the front!


rynelson85 (rynelson85@yahoo.com) MSG #69, 09-01-2003 01:15 PM
      bump! That's some awesome work!

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #70, 09-01-2003 07:35 PM
      Thats a cool looking fascia, deifinatly different. Where's it from, or did you mold the whole thing yourself from scratch? Also, can we have some pics of the tail light progress? I haven't seen any other tail lights on a fiero except the conversion kits and someone's supra lights.



yashmack MSG #71, 09-01-2003 07:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

found another related picture:

1st pair is my backup set
second pair: the modified ones which are on my car for years now. (Kolja see I did your mod! )
third pair: the Honda prelude altezza's. Got them prewired now and almost ready to go in the back (finaly after 2 years!)

Have you got the altezza's installed yet? would love to see those in there with some info on how you got them to fit looks like it would be too hard.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #72, 09-02-2003 09:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Thats a cool looking fascia, deifinatly different. Where's it from, or did you mold the whole thing yourself from scratch? Also, can we have some pics of the tail light progress? I haven't seen any other tail lights on a fiero except the conversion kits and someone's supra lights.

I have been looking for a nice bumper to start with....I found this Hondabumper (sorry) at a scrapyard. Also got a coupe bumper (which I wanted to modify to start with) but plans change many times

The idea was to use the mounting points and upper side of the the coupe-nose to have a good fit to a Fiero and use the Honda bumper as a basis for the final shape. Both bumpers are cut into pieces! This will be a shorter nose than stock, however I had to lenghten the honda bumper with 6 cm's....I wanted an agressive look and an extra intake...a bit like aston martin or jaguar and I will have some sleek lights in it (honda prelude white cristal lights)....

A BIG Mouth version would also be possible when you remove the middle bumper part! But first I'll stick with this setup...

Tomorrow I should get a new bunch of photo's, will scan and post them asap.

If all is finished I might start a thread about the building process....There's a lot I learned that other people might benefit from (I hope)



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #73, 09-03-2003 09:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

...I found this Hondabumper (sorry)

... If all is finished I might start a thread about the building process....There's a lot I learned that other people might benefit from (I hope)

No need to be sorry, just because its off a honda isn't a bad thing. Its even better because you're going the custom route which is tougher.

Keep the forum updated on your car... or at least me. I like following your progress because its coming together really well.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #74, 09-05-2003 01:22 PM
      I have got myself a digicam for this weekend and I am using PIP now for the first time (and already like it!)...picture-attack!

the altezza's in the modified rear clip.

the altezza's when hondadriver came by and liked them

another angle


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #75, 09-05-2003 01:34 PM
      wednesday afternoon I decided to clean up the enginebay. I removed the complete Cruisecontrol assembly as I never use it. pulled out the insulation. Prepared the metal for paint (hammerite black metallic). I took out the vent brackets and the vacuum lines to paint them red. also put the GTR trunkcover in the trunk. These are the results


drove it already that evening. It still is a daily driver

Coop9200 (porsch944t@aol.com) MSG #76, 09-05-2003 02:01 PM
      i am freakin impressed.....specially how to modified the rear fastback clip there for the lights. I think we should become business partners so you can mass produce that product, and i'll sell them here in the states, whahahhaa. Again, GREAT work...thumbs up to you

-Coop



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #77, 09-05-2003 02:34 PM
      Front has some minor changes now and the Crystal lights came in today! They seemed soooo big to me but when I placed them on the bumper I thought/think I can make them fit in there


skitime (skitime@ptd.net) MSG #78, 09-05-2003 02:47 PM
      Impressive stuff! Thanks for sharing.



mrfixit58 (rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com) MSG #79, 09-05-2003 03:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Very impressive. What did you use to bond the two nose pieces together?




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #80, 09-05-2003 04:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mrfixit58:


Very impressive. What did you use to bond the two nose pieces together?

Thanks. Well this is the mockup so there's lot of foam(board) in it, fiberglass, filler, wood and filler...Did I mention filler? I will take a mold from it and then the 1-piece product. Maybe I could make more


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #81, 09-05-2003 10:32 PM
      Your fiero is definitly going to be one of my favourites.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #82, 09-05-2003 11:26 PM
     

No doubt,...that car is awesome !

Really outstanding work !!! I think we are all dying for some pointers on how you did everything.

I do however like the aero nose you have on the car as oppossed to a new one.

I could be wrong, depending on how the new one looks mounted, but my intial impression of the nose is I prefer the areo nose with this setup,..gives it a sleeker more exotic look. JMO.

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #83, 09-06-2003 08:39 AM
      that is awesome, i wish i had even 1 of those peices on my car. it might look good to have vented fenders like from a 83 trans-am or something. nice work. quit your job and just fiberglass fiero parts.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #84, 09-06-2003 09:02 AM
      You mean the fender intakes like Ski has?
I have them
At that time I didn't knew they were existing parts, thought Ski made them himself! So I made a set from scratch. I don't know if I put them on however. I dont want to "overscoop" the thing (well, might be too late already ) and fiberglass and the fender plastic might not hold. Which means I would have to take molds from the fenders and make a 1 piece fiberglass product......could be too much work at this time......I will think about when the rest is finished...

Thanks for all the great replies, it really makes it fun to work now! All is coming together like the pieces of a puzzle. only 800 pieces to go

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #85, 09-06-2003 01:16 PM
      This afternoon I finally swapped the rearclip. It is a daily driver so I had to plan some things but I finally went for it!


removing lights/vents/trim/ and some bolts. After a few hours the clip was ready to go!


What is missing in this picture? It looked so strange I decided to clean and paint immediately!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #86, 09-06-2003 01:17 PM
     

It seems it has been in an accident sometime....the fuelthingie (what was it for?) is quite dented and the B-pillar has some spots of repair... this pic was after painting.

Painting was done within 15 minutes. All day it was almost raining and now it IS! Putting on the new clip wasn't too hard and I put in the lights for the picture (will wire them in tomorrow)..here it is:

I am quite satisfied! It is the first time all parts are coming together and it really looks a bit like a big brother of the new Smart roadster(which I have seen for real some times now)!

I earned myself some beer now!
cheers.


Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #87, 09-06-2003 02:04 PM
      Fie Ro,

Man, that's just beautiful!
You have done some nice work.

I lost track of this thread, a couple of weeks ago. The "fastback clip" thread reminded me...



Spyhunter (kim@designisadditive.com) MSG #88, 09-07-2003 03:38 AM
      Some awesome work there!

avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #89, 09-07-2003 09:56 AM
      That tank that is crush is an expansion tank for the fuel tank.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #90, 09-07-2003 11:30 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by avengador1:

That tank that is crush is an expansion tank for the fuel tank.

looked more like an implosion tank

today I mounted the inserts/vents and lights and re-aligned some panels, put back the fuelcap and mechanism... The lights are working great now!
This how I mounted them to the Fiero:

I had been long thinking how the H*** I could mount them to the Fiero. Then I found out I could remove those plastic screw thingies on the back (green) and screw back longer pieces (red)


Made 4 holes in the trunk to mount them (still have to cut a little piece. The trunk carpet will cover them so you wont see anything!


This picture doesn't seem much different from yesterday but more things are in place now. I still like the lights. I wanna see them this evening


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #91, 09-07-2003 03:10 PM
      Just took some pics with the driving lights on at night:

The chrome now really works great as the reflexes are changing when you're changing position...nice 3D effect!, for those drivers when I am passing them

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #92, 09-07-2003 06:04 PM
      *mouth drops*

*drooling occurs*



Raydar (raydarfiero@comcast.net) MSG #93, 09-26-2003 10:00 PM
      free bump

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #94, 09-26-2003 10:34 PM
      Why don't you move to Canada and work on my car. I'll pay you in beer because we have the best beer hahaha

good work, the car looks absolutely incredible even in primer!



FieroAudio (blaine@korte.ca) MSG #95, 09-27-2003 01:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

we have the best beer hahaha

this is very true

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #96, 09-27-2003 02:05 AM
      I think one of the most impressive parts of this project, is that it is his daily driver and he is still able to get a lot accomplished !

absolutely stunning job.



Spyhunter (kim@designisadditive.com) MSG #97, 09-27-2003 03:21 AM
      I must say, I not usually a fan of that style tail lights, but you did an awesome job! And the fabrication on all the scoops, and parts are way cool! I wanna see that nose put on the car now...

I have been thinking about fabbing some of my own hoodvents, and yours match the car really well - might have to borrow the style one day!

It's also really cool that you have shown a progression of pix - nice to see it all come together.

[This message has been edited by Spyhunter (edited 09-27-2003).]

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #98, 09-27-2003 01:31 PM
      I forgot... do you want to send me the old fastback clip?



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #99, 09-29-2003 05:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Why don't you move to Canada and work on my car. I'll pay you in beer because we have the best beer hahaha

good work, the car looks absolutely incredible even in primer!

Ha! You found my weak spot
Actually I think I spent more money on beer than glassfiber and resin during the process
Paying me in beer may be disappointing for you, I am not running lean

There isn't much changed last weeks on the car itself. Got the exhaust tips in there finally. The old exhaust was quite crappy so when I put the new tips and bends on it still wasn't right. now it is!

I took a mold from the taillight piece because it started cracking; there was still some wood in there (covered with layers of fiberglass) but still it appeared moisture could get inside somehow.....(I am still learning) So I am working on the mold. Good news is I might make more products

The nosepiece is 99% finished. I am just correcting some small details so I can take a mold of it hopefully next weekend!
It is quite a bit shorter than the stock nosepiece, I think that will look better on the car. I will take some pictures this week and post the progress......




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #100, 09-29-2003 05:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Spyhunter:

I have been thinking about fabbing some of my own hoodvents, and yours match the car really well - might have to borrow the style one day!

It's also really cool that you have shown a progression of pix - nice to see it all come together.

[This message has been edited by Spyhunter (edited 09-27-2003).]

Thanks. I like to look at other people's projects and progress too so hopefully this project inspires other people to do their thing.
I got a lot of inspiration from this forum but wherever possible I am trying to give it a personal touch....
I could afford a bodykit but it is more satisfying seeing your own ideas coming to live. The difficult part is to imagine how it looks like when all parts are together. So there's a lot of thinking/drinking involved. Did I already mention "a lot of time"?

For example I put quite some work on the roofscoop but I think I drop it because it might be "too much" together with the other scoops. It is too easy to go over the top with all those mods, and I don't want that to happen.



Smoooooth GT MSG #101, 09-29-2003 10:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
The difficult part is to imagine how it looks like when all parts are together.

Yes, Thats been one of the hard thing's for me also.. I don't have P'Shoppe so it's been trial and error(do/redo) on mine too.

Looking GREAT!!

SmoothGT!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #102, 09-30-2003 07:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:
Yes, Thats been one of the hard thing's for me also.. I don't have P'Shoppe so it's been trial and error(do/redo) on mine too.
Looking GREAT!!

SmoothGT!!

Damn you Steve, you triggered me to Photoshop this evening!
As a matter a fact I use PS daily (it's part of my job!) but the biggest part is happening in the sick brain so I haven't used PS much in the designing process (these words sound expensive However I took some pics today and did some Photoshoppyiee... I included timeslips...oeps, originals for comparison. And, exhaust tips are in place now and the nosepiece is almost ready for taking a mold.

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 09-30-2003).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #103, 09-30-2003 07:36 PM
      the originalezzz:

edit osting fake pictures

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 09-30-2003).]

Smoooooth GT MSG #104, 09-30-2003 07:47 PM
      I love the nose!! Are you painting it Black..??
You're making mine look like CRAP!!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #105, 09-30-2003 07:53 PM
      Another piece of evidence about wasting your time !


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #106, 09-30-2003 08:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:
I love the nose!! Are you painting it Black..??
You're making mine look like CRAP!!

I am thinking about a metallic grey. yellow primer is bad material for Photoshopping it to metallic grey ! But I want to go to a dark color because I don't want the car to be "over the the top" with all the mods....

Smoooth: Your car is one of the main reasons I started with this insanity!
I think sometimes mine is a bit too ricey (even to myself) but I didn't wanted to go the easy way (355noses and Vette taillights are a lot around here). Altezza type lights seemed the way to go 2 years ago.
If I would have to start from scratch this year everything would be different. feel good about the direction you're going and do it how YOU want it. Sometimes I see pictures of finished things I am just working at....Grrrr.At the end I just want to be happy of the complete results. Thats why deadline's often do not work with this project(whyle this still is a hobby) But you have to stop somewhere and hand it over to the paint shop. there are always reasons to doubt about anything.

It is quite possible your front end doesn't match my body and vice versa....But I also think it is nice to show what can be done with all these different ideas


Smoooooth GT MSG #107, 09-30-2003 08:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
Smoooth: Your car is one of the main reasons I started with this insanity!

Ohh, Blame me... HAHAHA You have a PM!! SHHH!

Nebiros88 MSG #108, 10-18-2003 09:59 PM
      *bump* any updates?

that front end is sweet as hell... are you going to be making those for sale?

keep up the great work!

GTDude (skyhawk@moonstar.com) MSG #109, 10-19-2003 02:46 AM
      WOW..........the time you must have invested this sweet Fiero! Any color plans yet?????
I think a rich copper mist would be beautiful. Good luck........send more ASAP

Phil



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #110, 10-19-2003 04:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Nebiros88:

*bump* any updates?

that front end is sweet as hell... are you going to be making those for sale?

keep up the great work!

Thanks! Well most of the work now is making molds and good products. If I can get everything right and good quality pieces I might sell parts! Anyway I keep that in mind so I have more reason to put more time into good molds! Here's the mold from the rear (still working on it) and the nosepiece being covered for a mold.

I have something new though. As it is difficult to get good replacement quarterpanels I decided to try something myself in glassfiber. Took molds from the old quarterwindows (which were already cracked a bit). I decided to do something like this:

I will trim it so it is flush with the sailpanel inserts.

But deadlines are skipped till further notice!
Oh no, not like the Smooth GT!



Nebiros88 MSG #111, 10-19-2003 05:01 AM
      well put me down on the interested list for one of those fronts if you end up making them...great work

DJWINNI MSG #112, 10-19-2003 02:18 PM
      That's a beautiful and awesome work!!!
One of the beautifulest fiero in europe!! (with mine ).... seriously, you have a nice car and you deserve the words to congratulate your work!!

Wenn i will be in NL, i'll mail you

It is noth that far from France! lol



Morkidan (morkidanx@cs.com) MSG #113, 10-19-2003 06:26 PM
      I want the back end of your car!!!!!!

Smoooooth GT MSG #114, 10-21-2003 12:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

But deadlines are skipped till further notice!
Oh no, not like the Smooth GT!

HAHAHA!!
Here's a pic that you wanted!!

3000GT side mirror's!!

[This message has been edited by Smoooooth GT (edited 10-21-2003).]

Smoooooth GT MSG #115, 10-21-2003 12:12 PM
      ooopsie double doopsie!

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Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #116, 10-21-2003 05:15 PM
      Damn! That's a nice Forest!

Oh yeah.... now the SmoothGT really seems to get together real smooth!
I already liked the idea but this car is getting more respect from me as I see the progress. And you haven't even started yet!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #117, 10-21-2003 05:31 PM
      Did I already mention I like it?

I bought and tried to mount M3 style mirrors in the little triangle above the door. A bit like Clinton Whitehead did with newer style Firebird mirrors.
Anyway it seemed to much work making brackets and it even didn't look much better anyway. So I sanded and polished the Heck out of a set of Fiero mirors and now they look like chrome! With the gunmetal grey metallic I want add chrome accents like these mirrors, the Altezza's housings and the middle molding strip around the car. I might have a place where they can make the plastic moldings look like chrome. I might test them

edit:
like you would care about any moldings! Haha! ...sorry it's late up here....ehm.

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 10-21-2003).]

Sootah (sootah@hotmail.com) MSG #118, 10-21-2003 08:12 PM
      Fie Ro, what scoop did you glass to your decklid? That's the exact one that I am looking for!



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #119, 10-21-2003 10:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Did I already mention I like it?

I bought and tried to mount M3 style mirrors in the little triangle above the door. A bit like Clinton Whitehead did with newer style Firebird mirrors.
Anyway it seemed to much work making brackets and it even didn't look much better anyway. So I sanded and polished the Heck out of a set of Fiero mirors and now they look like chrome! With the gunmetal grey metallic I want add chrome accents like these mirrors, the Altezza's housings and the middle molding strip around the car. I might have a place where they can make the plastic moldings look like chrome. I might test them

edit:
like you would care about any moldings! Haha! ...sorry it's late up here....ehm.

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 10-21-2003).]

I'm not sure if all that chrome will look good... chrome moulding might look tacky. Maybe a metallic silver would work better.



Smoooooth GT MSG #120, 10-21-2003 11:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Damn! That's a nice Forest!

Oh yeah.... now the SmoothGT really seems to get together real smooth!
I already liked the idea but this car is getting more respect from me as I see the progress. And you haven't even started yet!

Well.. I kinda started a few week's ago...
Like the forest eh'..??
Post some new pic's!! NOW!

Smooth!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #121, 10-22-2003 06:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sootah:

Fie Ro, what scoop did you glass to your decklid? That's the exact one that I am looking for!

It's an early 80's Mustang scoop. It even had two "turbo" badges at the sides when I got it. Maybe I could use those badges somewhere in the future if I go turbo

I mounted a small L-shape piece of aluminium strip to keep water from entering the engine compartment (scoop is functional).

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #122, 10-22-2003 08:25 PM
      Fie Ro,

do you have any pictures of that new front bumper on the car? I've always wondered what a fiero would look like with something that short on the front



Smoooooth GT MSG #123, 10-22-2003 11:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
Maybe I could use those badges somewhere in the future if I go turbo

Glass them on your FOREHEAD!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #124, 10-23-2003 05:23 AM
      Originally posted by Fie Ro:
Maybe I could use those badges somewhere in the future if I go turbo

 
quote
Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:

Glass them on your FOREHEAD!!

No can do! I already have an "IDIOT" badge up there! I think I put them on my bicycle!

doublec4: As soon as it is on the car I'll take pictures. But I am still busy with the mold(s). It is already freezing at night so it is less fun to go outside and work on it....



Kento (kento@triad.rr.com) MSG #125, 10-23-2003 06:45 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
today I mounted the inserts/vents and lights and re-aligned some panels, put back the fuelcap and mechanism... The lights are working great now!
This how I mounted them to the Fiero:
I had been long thinking how the H*** I could mount them to the Fiero. Then I found out I could remove those plastic screw thingies on the back (green) and screw back longer pieces (red)
Made 4 holes in the trunk to mount them (still have to cut a little piece. The trunk carpet will cover them so you wont see anything!

thank a lot for those pics and that info. I am thinkging the same thing for my light mod I will be installing next weekend. No I am not using supra lights

I will post pic's when I get finished.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #126, 11-22-2003 04:11 PM
      An update to this thread:
A few weeks ago someone hit my fiero in the front:

Quite a setback but it can be saved and finally the front piece of the frame is now realigned

I am hoping to give you some new updates in the future!



lemonicegt (immacuteturtle@aol.com) MSG #127, 11-23-2003 04:27 AM
      maybe you could help me out with some fiberglass questions....i've started a couple small projects and lost interest lol....one being a customized smooothed rear fender with molded LED taillights for my dads motorcycle...the other was tryin to make sail panels.....do you have aol or a way i could get ahold of you other than PM's or posting?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #128, 11-23-2003 03:28 PM
      I think the best thing is to start a thread with your questions. There are many people who know a lot more about fiberglass. I am still struggling to get products seperated from the molds without doing damage...Grrr.
I'm using "mold release wax" but it doesn't seem to release that easy....


lemonicegt (immacuteturtle@aol.com) MSG #129, 11-23-2003 04:36 PM
      I was told masking tape, duct tape, and even pam cooking spray is a good release agent and my friend does alot of fiberglass work. The reason I was going to ask you is that you seem to have it down pretty well........the release part i can figure out on my own.....its making certain things and what kind of fiberglass you are using is my questions........such as are you using kitty hair glass or matting material?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #130, 11-23-2003 04:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lemonicegt:

I was told masking tape, duct tape, and even pam cooking spray is a good release agent and my friend does alot of fiberglass work. The reason I was going to ask you is that you seem to have it down pretty well........the release part i can figure out on my own.....its making certain things and what kind of fiberglass you are using is my questions........such as are you using kitty hair glass or matting material?

I use matting. I think I have a roll of 350grams/m2 now. Thats pretty thick stuff but I use about 3 layers of it. Avoid the pink hardener paste and use the liquid MEK harderner. It cures slower and the resin is easier to work with. I also apply a coat of gelcoat before the mats.

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #131, 02-16-2004 04:24 PM
      BUMP BUMP BUMPITY BUMP



performancesolutions (performancesolutions@kc.rr.com) MSG #132, 02-16-2004 04:47 PM
      nice job. your work is inspiring

Oslo (chris@tlg-auto.com) MSG #133, 02-16-2004 09:57 PM
      I've thought it many times, and I'll say it now:

Recreate that rear bumper!! It's beautiful with the added on part underneath! I would pick that up in a heartbeat!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #134, 02-17-2004 06:00 AM
      Thanks all! I am still working on it, let's say I am refining it I start to call it "stage 2"

 
quote
Originally posted by Oslo:

I've thought it many times, and I'll say it now:

Recreate that rear bumper!! It's beautiful with the added on part underneath! I would pick that up in a heartbeat!

In fact the rearbumper is getting a second treatment It will be better!
Reproducing parts is something I keep in mind for the future so I try to make everything to fit perfectly without (too much) modification.



TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #135, 03-03-2004 04:38 PM
      BUMP BUMP BUMP

Did progress stop? or just havent felt like updating. its KILLING ME i WANNA SEE IT!!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #136, 03-16-2004 10:06 AM
      I am having some internet-problems lately so I cant post many pictures right now.....I am still working on smaller and bigger mods though. The stage2 rearbumper is getting it's shape and the frontbumper is on on the car now! I have some pics of that one:

with a bit of colorcorrection to get a better impression:

I think I will add a windsplitter under the bumper to match the lines of the car better.....another thing to do.


This nose will add some space in my garage



85fierowiks MSG #137, 03-16-2004 11:53 AM
      really cool man if I could give you another plus I would

YourBasicFiero MSG #138, 03-16-2004 12:00 PM
      Beautiful.

fieroman87 (fieroman87@juno.com) MSG #139, 03-16-2004 12:44 PM
      "Gaw-dang, BillyJoe, look at that there stubbly nose!!!"

If you don't mind i'm goung to take PS to it and get that color roght for you (ay least i'll try)

BTW, it's really looking amazing!!! YOU BETTER MAKE MOLDS FOR US!!!!! especially the rear.



BobadooFunk (bobadoofunk@gmail.com) MSG #140, 03-16-2004 01:51 PM
      OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh yea and OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seriously amaze me with your innovative skills , no joke!
you are a total inspiration for my custom dash!
+ for YOU!



fieroman87 (fieroman87@juno.com) MSG #141, 03-16-2004 03:33 PM
      i hope this turns out ok

[This message has been edited by fieroman87 (edited 03-16-2004).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #142, 03-16-2004 05:11 PM
      Thanks a lot for the support guys! I really appreciate that.

The ..eh ...."challenging" part everytime:
After I put a new part on the car something else is asking to be corrected!
Now the sideskirts have to be corrected to match the lower front or vice-versa. Or both (most likely). This happens when you make changes all the time, trying to get it right. Never Finished!

Next time I will build my car from scratch!

About making molds: I have made so many small changes during the process that in the end the car itself will be the plug
If any reproduction will happen I will have molds made by a professional company...

fieroman: thanks! I guess you are the first to photoshop my car! I really like that sideview ....Owww, that's mine!



fieroman87 (fieroman87@juno.com) MSG #143, 03-16-2004 05:21 PM
      PM sent

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #144, 03-16-2004 05:42 PM
     

The lights are mounted on the back of the bumper. With an easy modification to the lighthousing the Fiero's turn/park lightsockets fit perfectly. ( In fact I had to dig up the originals after I replaced them with VW Golf lights after an accident!)

Smoothing the gap between the back of the 'stang scoop and decklid:

Shaping of the stage 2 rearbumper:




doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #145, 03-16-2004 09:25 PM
      I must have about 5 posts in this thread already, but here's another haha.

I finally got to see that nose on the car Im so happy! It looks really good along with everythign else... I really gotta learn how to fiberglass.

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #146, 03-16-2004 10:19 PM
      You know what I think...
WoWoWoWoWoW!!!!

Steve



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #147, 03-21-2004 06:38 PM
      Sneek peek of this weekend job during progress (daily driver by monday again!):


It is so natural with the fiero -lines, strange nobody has done it before...?!!

And you haven't seen the detailing yet



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #148, 03-31-2004 01:08 PM
      I did some shopping last week. I ordered some stuff from a local store and the Fierostore.
got this yesterday from the local store:

In front the stuff I ordered, in the back some molds and pieces for the stage2 rearbumper


A set of wheelspacers (10mm) which I will paint red if they fit. Some red and blue lights, blue's for the interior and reds in the Altezza's (to make them even more red). And a black plastic mesh with round holes: I already got a piece of fine aluminium grill too, the black mesh will go into the front middle gaps and in the rear diffuser and the aluminium mesh will go wherever is a vent or scoop


These are the windsplitter stabilisers....should be functional and some Euro-look too


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #149, 03-31-2004 01:46 PM
      This happend 15 minutes later: I put some sticky chemical stuff on a $200 part!

This ABS-plastic windsplitter will not hold up to the fiberglass nose so I will make a mold of it and make a fiberglass product, which can be easily molded to the nose.

I have another 6cm to take care of (because the honda-piece of the nose was lengthened 6cm) so I will use that to get a shape that will match to the sideskirt...I took the original windsplitter out of the mold today so now I hope to sell it to some civic-ricer so I get some of the money back

This arrived today from the Fierostore (fast as always):

Most important: the quarter windows! FS confirmed they're from www.kahines.com. On the pictures they looked great and in real life they look great too. They seem a bit too flat in the mid section but the overall shape is excellent and that's most important, no regrets here.
There's a new left mirror glass, 2 clutchpedal bushings (it squeeks) and 2 (L/R) E-brake cables....
I read the Fierostore isn't always popular in the US of A but for us european's they offer great service. They ship fast, they know about our import/tax issues and they keep this hobby affordable to us...


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #150, 04-04-2004 07:27 PM
      ...work in progress....matching and smoothing the frontmods...

The windsplitter is out of the mold:

Some testfitting on the front :

I am making extra parts for extending the windsplitter 6 cm so it fits the nosepiece. It will be very smooth with the M3 skirts soon!
Just a simple impression how it could look like......


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #151, 04-07-2004 03:28 PM
      looking for the right setup of the stabilisers:

windsplitter mounted (but still adjustable):

I''ll take it for a testdrive tomorrow ( that is: driving to work and back home! ) When it fits right the windsplitter will be molded to the nose.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #152, 04-18-2004 01:26 PM
      I want to attend at some meetings this year so I put any free time available in finishing this job...
some work in progress: testfitting the splitter extensions:

I also made molds and products of the M3 skirt corners and testfitted them on the nose to see if the lines would look more smooth, but it was a bit too much so I skipped them. I also skipped the splitter stabilizers because they looked a bit silly. -kill your darlings-

And a new baby was born.... Fresh from the mold, it's upside down

I will use at least 7 seperate pieces to make the final bumper. I guess playing with LEGO has left it's marks!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #153, 04-18-2004 01:53 PM
      Slowly everything is coming together:

Smooth azz... Shaved rear reflectors and lots of sanding...(still to do)



87FieroGTx (jeremeyallen@gmail.com) MSG #154, 04-18-2004 03:48 PM
      I love how short the front overhang is, makes the car much more exotic imho!

Spyhunter (kim@designisadditive.com) MSG #155, 04-18-2004 04:47 PM
      Still watching your progress! Love the car, great work! I might find myself imitating the style

Spyhunter



Savagery (dave@eclipsestudios.net) MSG #156, 04-18-2004 05:52 PM
      Chop top time!

if only there was a v8 Archie branch in the Netherlands...

It looks awesome. I really like the rims, too.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #157, 04-18-2004 07:58 PM
      LOOKS GOOD! I remember what one person on the forum told or suggested: "Don't over do-it." That wasn't his exact words but I understood what he was getting at. IMO if you have more vent than a F40 then its too much. I wouldn't add any more vents it might get too busy for the eyes?

Me: I would gaze-over the front upper nose vents and the rear deck side vents (the small ones). IMO Everything else is visually "good." It's not that I'm one to talk about "over-doing-it" here, right? So please don't take this the wrong way.

Madcurl



netpro5 (rcromantic@aol.com) MSG #158, 04-18-2004 08:43 PM
      If you don't mind others having the same bumper as you, I say make a master mold of it then produce like 50 sell em for 600 a piece.? if you sell em all you will make $30 grand, (just thought)


I love your car!!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #159, 04-19-2004 08:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

LOOKS GOOD! I remember what one person on the forum told or suggested: "Don't over do-it." That wasn't his exact words but I understood what he was getting at. IMO if you have more vent than a F40 then its too much. I wouldn't add any more vents it might get too busy for the eyes?

Me: I would gaze-over the front upper nose vents and the rear deck side vents (the small ones). IMO Everything else is visually "good." It's not that I'm one to talk about "over-doing-it" here, right? So please don't take this the wrong way.

Madcurl

I am not taking anything the wrong way. I understand what you mean and I think you're right.

I guess I too said before I don't want to overdo it....But when you are trying different things you will never know how they will turn out unless you just do it. Even if you have clear plans like I thought I had I already skipped many mods ( 3 out of 4 by now ) which were too much on this car but in a different combination they could be nice. I already made 2 versions of the frontlid vent and 2 versions of the rear diffuser but now it is just time to finish it with what I have. I think it will be ok, but it would be completely different if started from scratch now

Btw I really like what you're doing to yours: It is original but with respect to the "original" fiero. Retaining the boxy dash but in a very updated way is one of my favorites!

I see it as a compliment if people want to "borrow" some of the mods I did...... I got many ideas and feedback from this forum so it is a bit of give and take



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #160, 04-19-2004 02:08 PM
      I"m glad we agree. I too have a hard time not "over-doing it." That might be why I'm doing (2) projects in hopes that what ever ideas that spring-up in my head won't be all on (1) car. But most of my ideas are not original, just copied from various people here or on olders cars of the past. One of the best comments that I usually get is "its a Fiero."

What I find fasinating is that; you and the guy named Stephan are just a few people willing to do something different and both are across the pond. Keep-up the good work. What color you plan on painting it?

Oh yeah, thanks for the kind thoughts.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #161, 04-19-2004 02:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
I"m glad we agree. I too have a hard time not "over-doing it." That might be why I'm doing (2) projects in hopes that what ever ideas that spring-up in my head won't be all on (1) car. But most of my ideas are not original, just copied from various people here or on olders cars of the past

I look a lot at other cars and some tuning magazines etc. searching for something that could look right on a fiero. there's a lot of wicked stuff already out there....however when you start working on it, it will become something new.

 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
One of the best comments that I usually get is "its a Fiero."

That's the difference! I want people to be curious about what it is, let them guess That's why I tried to mix different "exotic" styles together with the fiero. I could easily have put a 355 nose and tail on but that isn't challenging for me Lot of fiero's around here already have them. The only decal mine will get is some kind of custom logo on the nose.....I will make it unreadable

But I must say I have got a lot of respect for the original body....one day I might get myself a stock GT again......and
-lower it a bit
-new wheels
-oh well here we go

 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
What color you plan on painting it?

edit: gunmetal grey metallic. If it works like I planned.... I saw Black-azz 's pictures and it is close to what I want

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 04-19-2004).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #162, 04-20-2004 12:36 PM
      Yeah let the people keep on guessing.....they'll get it right. And my next project I'm leaving out the Pontiac in the back. So they will really have to guess then.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #163, 05-02-2004 11:21 AM
      I was fed up with sanding today so I decided to testfit the new rearbumper. It still needs sanding but I wanted to check whether it fits right...

Swapping bodypanels is like second nature nowadays...This took less than 10 minutes including swapping 4 new red lights in the altezza's

I had to trim a bit of the mounting area of the new bumper and I drilled the holes for the screws and sidemarkers...but it does fit!

It goes well with the rest of the car, it is way better than my first version. The tailpipes will be adjusted to fit perfectly "in" the bumper. They are clamped on now so I can correct them in any direction, when they fit right I will have the exhaust welded and remove the clamps.....

I might have to take the bumper off for a few days for finishing but it is the last major mod. At the outside

Now it only needs sanding and prepping for paint, cutting the mesh, polishing and clearcoating the mirrors, getting and mounting new dew wipes, getting some custom aluminium trim done, getting a custom logo and badge done, making removable sailpanels (!) and some other work that will pop up.....

nothing major..........duh



sennyGT (lseniuk@cogeco.ca) MSG #164, 05-02-2004 11:45 AM
      Deffinately love the bumper. What colour are going with?
-Greg


KingOfKings (westcoast2k2@hotmail.com) MSG #165, 05-02-2004 04:04 PM
      I can't believe how much work and effort you put in. Props, and I do think you should make molds to sell



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #166, 05-02-2004 05:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by sennyGT:
What colour are going with?
-Greg

Gunmetal grey metallic...

 
quote
Originally posted by KingOfKings:
I can't believe how much work and effort you put in.

thanks, there's indeed soo much work/time involved...my friends already think I don't like them anymore...! But I guess they would like to cruise when it is painted.
I am already drawing some new dash ideas to have some fun while finishing the body....I guess I'm addicted...


GTFiero1 (fierogt5speed@aol.com) MSG #167, 05-02-2004 06:15 PM
      I really like your rear bumper. You should reproduce that but made slightly differently so people dont have to bond them together, similarly to what fierowarehouse did with there front air damn, it just slides over the stock "ground effect" piece covering it up but blending perfectly making it look almost stock.



85fierowiks MSG #168, 05-02-2004 09:18 PM
      you should make and sell mold for that rear bumper chin spoiler....i'd buy one



SandstormGT (davidsndy@earthlink.net) MSG #169, 05-26-2004 03:25 AM
      Anything new yet "Fie Ro"? Free Bump! Keep up the good work!

Also, if anyone knows of the thread where "Fie Ro" designed his center consol sub box, please PM me, thanks!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #170, 05-26-2004 02:12 PM
      I havent had a lot of sparetime lately but most of it is spend now on sanding the car and prepping it for paint. Hopefully I get some more time next weeks.... About the subbox: there are a few pictures here:

http://members.lycos.nl/fierofiero/html/interior2.html

The site is seriously outdated but I am going to build a new site with the new info.......
Thanks for your interest


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #171, 06-23-2004 01:00 PM
      I just noticed I started this thread already 11 months ago....oh well!
I only hope it's gotten better over time
Got busy sanding and prepping the body for paint...(at this stage it was "urban camouflage")

shaving the antenna:

Many "little issues" are popping up:

This needs some fiberglassing.


This rocker molding was bent outside. Tried to fix it with a rivet but it pulled out.... I ended up using a screw with nut and modified washer. These things take a lot of your time.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #172, 06-23-2004 02:20 PM
      Rearbumper slowly getting its final shape:

There could be hundreds of houres of sanding in this project already!Removable GT sailpanels and smoothed rockers:

matching/filling/sanding


sanding down to base fiberglass again, last chance to get shapes right...


ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #173, 06-23-2004 03:06 PM
      what can i say but wow,,,dam ur doing a gr8 job,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oh by the way when u get that sweet ride done i have another sweet ride u can help me out with,,,lol

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #174, 06-23-2004 03:49 PM
      hey Ducattiman, thanks! I havent forgotten your project F40 style hatch+BMW V12 will get you a dual decklid, upper hatch will be F40 style "seethrough" in the middle, and 6 stacked vents on both sides (=12!).
Modified stock decklid will have the curves leading to the hatch and a 12LED brakelight on the rear edge of the decklid. I jkust have to scan the drawings sometime soon....I hope I teased a bit


ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #175, 06-23-2004 04:13 PM
      oh by the way,,this weekend i am picking up a beater fiero for another project..i have been researching this lambo kit,,,but i really think some custom mods r in need..interested in helping out?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #176, 06-23-2004 04:45 PM
      I would really like to contribute ideas to a new project!....but you better get into fiberglassing too because I have lots of work to do on my fiero.

What model r U gettin?...what kind of style r u lookin for?

cenneth (x@cenneth.com) MSG #177, 06-30-2004 04:58 AM
      What a job! You must have a very nice wife or be very lonely ;-)



DJWINNI MSG #178, 06-30-2004 01:54 PM
      Hi Fie Ro!!

you really did a great great job on your car
when will it be painted?

Greetings from france to Pays Bas



Jordangel (design@presental.com) MSG #179, 06-30-2004 04:28 PM
      Woah man nice job!! I really the bumpers, look very clean!!!
I'm currently designing my own body (complete with new curve and door cut)..wider too
I'd like some tips 'bout molding and fiberglassing if you get 2 or 3 mins

Just PM me if interested in my upcoming project. :P

Bravo encore! Oops..You may not speak french lol

Coop9200 (porsch944t@aol.com) MSG #180, 06-30-2004 04:44 PM
      what car was that nose from?

-Coop

BV MotorSports (sbvincent@yahoo.com) MSG #181, 06-30-2004 07:40 PM
      Looks like a Nissan Skyline GT-R nose R34 to be exact.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #182, 07-01-2004 11:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by cenneth:
What a job! You must have a very nice wife or be very lonely ;-)

Hehe I am very lonely! When the fiero is ready I might have a better chance to pick up a nice wife!

 
quote
Originally posted by Coop9200:
what car was that nose from?
-Coop

2004 Fiero GTR.


LZeitgeist (lzeitgeist@aol.com) MSG #183, 07-01-2004 11:22 AM
      Wow... just read through this thread for the first time since I posted earlier about the NACA ducts...

Good grief! That's turning out AWESOME!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #184, 07-12-2004 02:49 PM
      some update pics:
I did some more smoothing of the sidevents into the rockers:

Put on the polished mirror on the passenger side:

I bought a set of M3 style mirrors but they would be too difficult to mount so I started polishing the originals I need to redo the driverside one and give it a clearcoat because they corrode if you dont that.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #185, 07-12-2004 03:02 PM
      I wanted to try out the mesh/strip-calk combination. Cut the mesh shape and tapped the edge around the vent, took them off and put them back with a line of the sticky stuff. Works great.

It is starting to get the looks!

However I damaged my windsplitter yesterday:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043550.html
..but it is repairable.


ato4life (rblitek@monm.edu) MSG #186, 07-12-2004 06:07 PM
      looks sweet. cant wait to see it all painted. that mess looks great.



scarletmacaw9 (edwardvo9@comcast.net) MSG #187, 07-12-2004 06:13 PM
      with V8 ? or V12 you're not driving anymore you are flying low

Coinage (ldwrestling80@comcast.net) MSG #188, 07-12-2004 06:25 PM
      when i first saw that front bumper you made...i was so so about it but it keeps growing on me and it is looking GREAT!

keep up the great work!

Jake_Dragon MSG #189, 07-14-2004 06:12 PM
      Can you make this for me?


anatodigit (j_lewis1024@yahoo.ca) MSG #190, 07-15-2004 04:51 PM
      the car looks great !! ...the method i use for attaching those grills is ....fiberglass a paperclip into the bumper with one end sticking out ...the you can just put the mesh grills on and fold the paperclip over ...it will hold it really well and if you need to remove the mesh for painting or whatever you just flip the paperclips up and slide it off ...



Maetrix66 (maetrix66@msn.com) MSG #191, 07-15-2004 05:02 PM
      Qoute from Fie.Ro

getting a custom logo and badge done,...

I am designing one-off custom badges and logos as we speak. PM me,
and lets see what we can come up with.

If the entire body is one of a kind, then the badges should be too.

mrfixit58 (rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com) MSG #192, 07-15-2004 05:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by anatodigit:

the car looks great !! ...the method i use for attaching those grills is ....fiberglass a paperclip into the bumper with one end sticking out ...the you can just put the mesh grills on and fold the paperclip over ...it will hold it really well and if you need to remove the mesh for painting or whatever you just flip the paperclips up and slide it off ...

Good idea but I recommend stainless steel wire so it wont rust away.

Roy



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #193, 07-17-2004 05:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Can you make this for me?


I would do it for ya if I had lots of unused time ...! In fact I have photoshopped some variations and yours is close to some of those! I also have a version that deletes the midsection and I call it the "bigmouth" version. But me thinks it is too agressive to match the Fiero's "friendly" appearance in this setup... For now I'll stick to the current nose or it will never get finished thanks for the time you put into the photoshopping.

 
quote
Originally posted by anatodigit:
the car looks great !! ...the method i use for attaching those grills is ....fiberglass a paperclip into the bumper with one end sticking out ...the you can just put the mesh grills on and fold the paperclip over ...it will hold it really well and if you need to remove the mesh for painting or whatever you just flip the paperclips up and slide it off ...

 
quote
Originally posted by mrfixit58:
Good idea but I recommend stainless steel wire so it wont rust away.
Roy

I like ideas like that! ...find your own solutions and learn from others, its fun!

I have some update pics to compensate my blabla....:


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #194, 07-17-2004 05:59 PM
      Apart from sanding and prepping for paint there are some other (faster) rewarding jobs to do. Like making the headlight doors mechanism look better than this...

I took this pic as a reference for reinstalling the rods. Here the rods are painted gunmetal grey metallic and the brackets painted red.

It is as red as it shows in the picture! This particular red paint is the same paint I used on my calipers and it holds up really great to almost anything so I use it more and more on other chassis parts... Headlight brackets reassembled:



Spyhunter (kim@designisadditive.com) MSG #195, 07-17-2004 06:41 PM
      Nice touches! Lookin' good!

Kohburn MSG #196, 07-30-2004 09:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Thanks. Well this is the mockup so there's lot of foam(board) in it, fiberglass, filler, wood and filler...Did I mention filler? I will take a mold from it and then the 1-piece product. Maybe I could make more

ready to make more yet? I'm dieing to see one on a notchy

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #197, 07-30-2004 09:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
I would do it for ya if I had lots of unused time ...! In fact I have photoshopped some variations and yours is close to some of those! I also have a version that deletes the midsection and I call it the "bigmouth" version. But me thinks it is too agressive to match the Fiero's "friendly" appearance in this setup... For now I'll stick to the current nose or it will never get finished thanks for the time you put into the photoshopping.

Any chance you're interested in sharing some of that photoshop work with us?

Kohburn MSG #198, 07-30-2004 10:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:


Any chance you're interested in sharing some of that photoshop work with us?

that'd be nice - but i'd rather he spend his spare time making me a nose

[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 07-30-2004).]

blizzue MSG #199, 07-30-2004 02:05 PM
      Declared, most anticipated project of the year. Including next year.

Looks freaking awesome.

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #200, 07-30-2004 05:15 PM
      updates!!! where are updates!!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #201, 07-30-2004 07:52 PM
      Oops, updates:
sanded and primered the inner sailpanels

mockup with the mesh I want to use on the vents.

BUT I am having some serious fuelsystem issues. I'll try to keep it short because I already have a thread about this (which I should update btw..) Old pump (less than 10Kmiles) quits working after 10 minutes of driving. So I replaced the pump last week

replaced filter too and lookie what I found ..rust particals....have seen that before in my injectors

pump works good, engine ran bad so I pulled fuelrail to check the injectors

they looked good and clean, put them back.....no starting. in short:looks like a dead battery and/or starter now (I have a batterycharger)....I hope to do some bodywork finishing next days because technically it isn't going great.

Kohburn MSG #202, 08-01-2004 10:09 PM
      tellin ya - start shipping those noses to us in the states and we will fund your engine improvements



Kohburn MSG #203, 08-10-2004 08:01 AM
      anything new on your plate Fie Ro?

ShaddowGt (sage14823@xpectmore.com) MSG #204, 08-22-2004 05:07 PM
      how about an update?

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #205, 08-22-2004 07:25 PM
      update...



Kohburn MSG #206, 09-16-2004 06:56 AM
      time to talk about clear hatches FieRo

this was a quick sketch I had done about a month ago before I ended up getting two notchbacks..
it was designed to mimic one of Aus's front hood chops..
but the vents along the sides could easily move over next to the solid pillars



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #207, 09-16-2004 01:42 PM
      I started drawing clear hatch ideas when Ducattiman asked for a F40 type of hatch for his BMW V12 conversion...




So I have been researching the F40 style rearhatch for some time now, but I dont know how to make these shapes in plexiglass only...plus I am looking for a cleaner style for the "stock" fastback and trying to make it relatively easy to build.

The idea is a twin-hatch: stock decklid with the middle piece cutout and an added fiberglass piece (between the sailpanels). The seperate top piece has a fiberglass frame with a piece of "bendable" plexiglass plate that can be screwed or popped in place. It is hinged to the rear roof. Ideally it would be nice to have some linkage between the upper/lower hatch so you could open the decklid the normal way and the top hatch would move up a bit more so they dont hit. A one-piece design would be much more difficult to build because it needs to be hinged at the roofsection which is to weak to bear all that weight without reinforcing.
Ow btw, I will also try to incorporate a row of small vents on both sides (like the newer ferrari's) so the rest can stay smooth and clean.


This is one of the latest ideas. I am not going to do this to mine soon, but maybe in the future...hehe.

I need to update the buildup. I havent done much but there are some new detailing pics and ideas I will post as soon as possible.

Kohburn MSG #208, 09-16-2004 01:47 PM
      yeah I was planning to have it be a 2 peice also - the idea was to have two struts positioned like Kameo's rear sun deflector ..
i think that last pic of yours chopped but adding some rows of vents at the very top (high suction and it doesn't block any view) and down the very edges would look very very slick


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #209, 09-16-2004 03:05 PM
      Some mods to the sideskirts (I had to use the stabilisers "somewhere"!) Mockup:

Weatherproof Leds:

Testing:

Now it would be nice to shave the moldings on the fiero but I know I break stuff so I want the bodypanels being removable.....but that doesn't mean you cant smooth anything. I have been looking at the triangle thingie:

And thought about something like this (PS):


I think I will do this mod...

I will also try to take some pics of the smoothed (not shaved!) doorhandles and the cleaned up underside of the hoodvent.

Kohburn MSG #210, 09-16-2004 03:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

man i was hoping to be the first.. I want to do the shaved attached to the doors for my suicide lambo doors to keep the lines smooth when the door is open without a huge notch missing from the front of the door

edit: on secodn thought that would then look funny if the windows were down with the door up, hmm

[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 09-16-2004).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #211, 09-16-2004 03:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:

yeah I was planning to have it be a 2 peice also - the idea was to have two struts positioned like Kameo's rear sun deflector ..
i think that last pic of yours chopped but adding some rows of vents at the very top (high suction and it doesn't block any view) and down the very edges would look very very slick

Untill now I have looked more for a nice "shape" than "function" in the first ideas... but a good combination is the challenge Yes, efficient venting and a clear view is the main challenge I guess... So I are you going to build yours?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #212, 09-16-2004 03:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:
man i was hoping to be the first.. I want to do the shaved attached to the doors for my suicide lambo doors to keep the lines smooth when the door is open without a huge notch missing from the front of the door

edit: on secodn thought that would then look funny if the windows were down with the door up, hmm

Well, I have my windows up and the doors closed most of the time I think the mirrors also stand out much more natural with the triangle smoothed to the doors. I tried M3 style mirrors, they were different but not better looking than the stock mirrors. Plus a lot of work to make them fit. Skipped that one. The polished stock mirrors are now part of a set of polished/chrome/aluminium accents on my fiero. This mod might make them look even better... I hope


Kohburn MSG #213, 09-17-2004 09:17 AM
      I was planning to build the hatch for the fastback - but i don't have one maybe another time.. the idea with the struts was when they were downat resting height they were attached to the decklid at an angle that allowed the glass to auto lift away from the deck when it was opened - but you could also just pop the glass portion and the gas struts would raise it.. not entirely sure how to do it but it would be darn sweet

as for the triangles by the mirror - they deffinately look good.. for me its just a matter of do they stay attached to the frame, or do they travel with the door.. maybe if they were molded into the door and then the mirrors had little camaro/vette style wind defflectors between the mirror and the triangle portion to blend it all together..

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #214, 09-19-2004 12:03 PM
      I have seen the Vette style wind deflectors on Fiero's and I think they dont look good. The mirror is too far back to smooth it nicely with the triangle. Instead I want the mirror to stand out more by accenting the border (doorskin+smoothed triangle molded to the door) which has a nice matching curve. I am still thinking about the best way to do it (and if I should do it!) but I think it will become reality in the end...

"Smoothing" is is what it is all about in the rest of this post pics of today. years of work....hehe.
Some more smoothing of the rearpanel and the rearclip:

Smoothing of the underside of the fronthood vent:


notice the hinge vents

And the smoothed (not shaved!) doorhandles:

Thanks for looking.


mr.tourismo (m.tourismo@mail.streetracing.org) MSG #215, 09-22-2004 05:14 PM
      bump! keep it comming.....
i love your fiero!

Alex



sqoach (fiero_adam@yahoo.com) MSG #216, 09-22-2004 05:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

And the smoothed (not shaved!) doorhandles:

Thanks for looking.

Oooo....how did you go about doing this? I swapped my grooved molding on my SE to the smooth kind, and the handle just doesn't look quite right. I was just going to remove that piece that is stuck on the handle and call it good, but want it to match the molding. It looks really good!

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #217, 09-22-2004 05:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by sqoach:


Oooo....how did you go about doing this? I swapped my grooved molding on my SE to the smooth kind, and the handle just doesn't look quite right. I was just going to remove that piece that is stuck on the handle and call it good, but want it to match the molding. It looks really good!

I've often thought about doing that, but I'm not sure that an epoxy or body filler would sustain the wear & tear on those... any more details on these Fie Ro?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #218, 09-23-2004 05:19 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:
I've often thought about doing that, but I'm not sure that an epoxy or body filler would sustain the wear & tear on those... any more details on these Fie Ro?

I used body filler on the original doorhandle, the finer filler stuff seems a little stronger. It looks it holds up fine. Plus the original doorhandle looks strong enough to prevent flexing and cracking.


nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #219, 09-24-2004 04:03 PM
      Hey I just wanted to compliment your work. I have been watching for a while and am very impressed.!!! keep it up and best of luck.

Kohburn MSG #220, 10-04-2004 08:32 AM
      get that thing painted already

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #221, 10-04-2004 02:18 PM
      It's getting closer to paint! At least its finally back on the road again. It cost more than a month and several new parts but after getting a fuelpressure gauge it showed some idiot sent the wrong fuelpump to start with!
Anyway, some new parts never hurt...
I looked for a piece of metal to mount my new FPgauge, first piece I found was the spare shim that came with the new starter motor!

exactly what I was looking for! No drilling required.

The new rearbumper has gotten another hundreds of houres of sanding and sculpting, but it just has to be finished soon or it never will! The car really needs some ass.

Most of the time now is spend on smoothing the smaller details of the body

I have a new small added piece to the frontscoop (pics when finished) and I have looked over several
"smoothing the mirror triangle thingie" options and I guess I have decided I will do it and also how to do it... !
Painting is postponed by another two weeks!



Kohburn MSG #222, 10-04-2004 02:38 PM
      you just keep teasing..

when are you gonna start selling your style nose.. I want one

your front and rear bumpers fit perfectly with stock aero molding - so its a great mod for any aero notchy or fastback.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #223, 10-04-2004 02:40 PM
      Looks nice and is comming along very smoothly.


Make sure those fuel hoses are the correct rating? Question: why didn't you go with breaded fuel lines?

You could get the ones that are mounted on the A-piller inside the car?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #224, 10-04-2004 03:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Make sure those fuel hoses are the correct rating? Question: why didn't you go with breaded fuel lines?

Well I only needed a fueltester to determine the problem first. Dressing up isn't the issue right now! I had to do some fabbing and ripped some fuelhoses from a (rare) 3.1 beretta in a junkyard. They do the job well, I still have 20psi on the gauge 2 houres after shutting off the engine

 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
You could get the ones that are mounted on the A-piller inside the car?

I know you love reusing existing parts They could work...hmmmm! Will have a look at that... I want to use the stock triangles as a mold for the backside...they're already there and they have the right shape. after that I will remove them so the new pieces wont hit and have around 1/2inch of extra space behind them when they're molded to the doorskin.
But first I need a trip to my fiberglass supplier...I am out of resin.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #225, 10-04-2004 08:12 PM
      I don't know what your spending limits are but, for $69 US I got Dakota Digital fuel gauge. There might be cheaper ones available? Anyway, using a 2 or 3 A-piller gauge pod w/electrical sending a unit...you can have them right in front of you. It's a little more safer IMO. Especially since you using used hoses. Just be careful.

Normally on a stock 2.8 it's a tin/steel line that is threaded into fuel rail. With all of the heat back there, those rubber hose just might give out? With all of the work you put into the car, I would hate to see it go up in flames.

stalen88GT (glstaples@hotmail.com) MSG #226, 10-05-2004 11:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:





Just have to say VERY NICE Keep up the good work. Love this thread.



Silentassassin185 (silentassassin185@gmail.com) MSG #227, 10-06-2004 01:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
With all of the heat back there, those rubber hose just might give out? With all of the work you put into the car, I would hate to see it go up in flames.

I agree. I'd cry if I saw ths car go up. LOL Ok not really but it would be a very sad situation. I love what your doing with the car. Can't wait to see it finished.
Mike



sewing_guy (prostitch@ctitech.com) MSG #228, 10-06-2004 02:11 AM
      That's going to be one nice package when it's all painted and finished out. I can't believe the time it would take to mold and make those panels. Heck, I just want my 84s to turn on. I'll be happy with that.

Do the vents on the front hood duct to the radiator for additional cooling, or closed off, or what?

I know it's a phase and it will pass in a couple years (like billet on hot rod roadsters), but what about some carbon fiber inserts? The NACA ducting with carbon fiber panels laid down in the depressions, or inserts in the front grills would set off those areas, and then a deep silver or charcoal overall paint. They're even now making carbon fiber - look vinyl for highlights on interiors.

Each time I check the pics, I get just a leeeetle more jealous. run, dang you, Runnnnnn!!!!!!!



Kohburn MSG #229, 10-06-2004 09:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Normally on a stock 2.8 it's a tin/steel line that is threaded into fuel rail. With all of the heat back there, those rubber hose just might give out? With all of the work you put into the car, I would hate to see it go up in flames.

I wouldn't worry too much since most cars now have plastic quick connect fuel lines and plastic fuel rails/intakes.

the digital guage sounds like a nice idea

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #230, 10-06-2004 12:13 PM
      Madcurl: I will be doing another engine and another dash within a year. like I said this is a setup for the timebeing...first I am focused on the body I am just glad it is a daily driver again. I am already researching many gauge options though

Sewing guy: its gonna be painted gunmetal grey. I am thinking of some CF inserts for the front/rear but they can be added later (like a plugin piece). But I will use a few aluminium strips in the detailing when it is painted.

One of these days I will get some new fiberglass supplies and I will get also some of the foamstuff Archie uses (I'll use it for the dashproject) and I might grab some CF to play with
Is working with CF the same as working with fiberglass? I know you have to bake it to make F1 strength pieces but thats out of reach ...Otherwise I guess its just like working with fiberglass?


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #231, 10-06-2004 12:27 PM
      forgot this question
 
quote
Originally posted by sewing_guy:
Do the vents on the front hood duct to the radiator for additional cooling, or closed off, or what?

They're functional. In fact the fronthoodvent had the biggest effect on front handling too, it feels like the front sticks better to the road with them. The nose feels a bit like the stock GT nose AFTER I mounted the windsplitter. Before I did that it feeled much too light in the front....It all sounds a bit subjective but I have driven the car in numerous bodyconfigurations and it feels quite good right now with this setup. I guess it also lost some weight because the fiberglassbumpers are way lighter than the stock bumpers.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #232, 10-07-2004 04:48 PM
      Today I got some chemicals and stuff to play with:

Real carbon fiber!:

Did some more PS tryouts on the triangle thingie:

a PS on my own fiero, original:

Now this would be relatively easy to make; A little raised edge molded to the door, and a CF cap mounted on the stock triangle...:

Thanks to sewing_guy to remind me of CF



Kohburn MSG #233, 10-08-2004 07:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
Is working with CF the same as working with fiberglass? I know you have to bake it to make F1 strength pieces but thats out of reach ...Otherwise I guess its just like working with fiberglass?

if you want strength and aren't using it cosmeticly you can do it the same as any hand layed fiberglass.. as far as baking that is for certain types of resin most generate their own heat if they require heat at all.

to really do cosmetic CF you can lay if up then put a clear coat ontop and polish smooth..

from my experience CF was the hardest to work with - i much prefer kevlar

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #234, 10-09-2004 07:45 PM
      Baked a cake (that was fun!):

Cut some pieces (and did a mockup):


Still thinking of different options of mounting and smoothing....details details details...but its fun to do those little accents...if they work. Skip them if they dont. Looking at the pictures I just changed my mind again


Kohburn MSG #235, 10-09-2004 08:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Still thinking of different options of mounting and smoothing....details details details...but its fun to do those little accents...if they work. Skip them if they dont. Looking at the pictures I just changed my mind again

man i really like how you caried the seem acros along the edge of the mirror..

Master Tuner Akimoto MSG #236, 10-09-2004 08:18 PM
     



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #237, 10-09-2004 08:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto:

I think those mirrors are too big.....sorry, not trying to bash you. I have tried a such a setup with M3 style mirrors and they just didn't look right. I skipped them finally. Now my challenge is to incorporate the stock mirrors in an updated design...


2fn4wrds (jdormandy1@cox.net) MSG #238, 10-13-2004 03:34 AM
      Your vented hood is soooo what I want!!!...and need. Maybe in ten or twenty years when you have time you can give the dimensions for cutting etc. and the procedure. And your steeper taper/shorter front end is brilliant, elegant/simple/ a bit 944 meets 2004

Honestly, I think your creation deserves a real color. No offense Madcurl.

Cheers, (raises glass)
awesome job!



Kohburn MSG #239, 10-13-2004 07:23 AM
      FieRo - do you have any friendst with notchies? i want to see how that nose would look on a nice notchback

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #240, 10-13-2004 11:35 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 2fn4wrds:
Your vented hood is soooo what I want!!!...and need. Maybe in ten or twenty years when you have time you can give the dimensions for cutting etc. and the procedure. And your steeper taper/shorter front end is brilliant, elegant/simple/ a bit 944 meets 2004

Thanks! If you're thinking ten or twenty years than I better give some measurements right now!
The main trick is respecting the stock lines and extending the horizontal lines of the headlights

metric dimensions in centimeters


The idea was to reuse most of the cut parts. The cut decklid part angled and moved forward about 2 inches:

Filled the gap with a few layers of fiberglass and bondo later:

Mother nature's work in the autumn morning




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #241, 10-13-2004 11:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:

FieRo - do you have any friendst with notchies? i want to see how that nose would look on a nice notchback

I have no friends! It is not exactly a bold-on on the inside (apart from the outside where it lines up with all panels, mounting points and moldings), You need to remove (unbolting) the boxy iron bumper support and when you use the prelude lights you need to cut a notch in the front framemember for clearance. You could still go back to stock but this nose is so short it needs some parts (and weight!) removed to install. I'm afraid a notchie mockup wont happen soon....Try photoshop

Kohburn MSG #242, 10-13-2004 12:09 PM
      maybe i need a photochop then.. do you have a real good side shot that i can get someone to notchify?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #243, 10-13-2004 01:04 PM
      Snapped these for you before it gets dark here



NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #244, 10-13-2004 06:02 PM
      Coming along GREAT!! When are you gonna chop it..??



pred1tor83 (pred1tor83@yahoo.com) MSG #245, 10-13-2004 10:35 PM
      sorry not my cup of tea, i like the stock areo one... it looks tooo much like a mr2

Key Of David (keyofdavid88@alltel.net) MSG #246, 10-13-2004 10:41 PM
      I think it looks great so far...keep up the good work. I really like the nose esp.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #247, 10-14-2004 01:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:

Coming along GREAT!! When are you gonna chop it..??

Uh...never. It already fits in the garage!
For all the work (that I will have to do myself, and I cant weld) I rather spend it on the interior and an engineswap. When it is complete and painted everything will make sense (I hope!).... I bet you say the same!


Kohburn MSG #248, 10-14-2004 02:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

that one is great, but think you could get one of the whole car in it?

i am trying to imagine this nose on a notchy witht he sloped tail lamps..

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #249, 10-14-2004 02:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pred1tor83:

sorry not my cup of tea, i like the stock areo one... it looks tooo much like a mr2

Hmm you're right about the nose



I guess it looks a bit like these too:



Oh well, I am glad it doesnt look like a wannabe ferrari nose


Kohburn MSG #250, 10-14-2004 02:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Oh well, I am glad it doesnt look like a wannabe ferrari nose

man i should make one like that for the fiero that lines up with the hood contours..

good idea

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #251, 10-14-2004 02:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:
that one is great, but think you could get one of the whole car in it?

LOL. It doesnt fit in that picture. I'll drive it a few meters forward so I can take a pic of the rear and combine it with the front picture in photoshop. hehe
I'll try to snap one tomorrow


pred1tor83 (pred1tor83@yahoo.com) MSG #252, 10-14-2004 03:07 PM
      dont get me wrong, im not saying its bad or anything, i just dont prefer for the nose.... but your work is outstanding

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #253, 10-14-2004 03:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pred1tor83:

dont get me wrong, im not saying its bad or anything, i just dont prefer for the nose.... but your work is outstanding

No offence here, sorry I am just a bit sensitive when people compare it to existing designs when I try to stay away from those It know it could look better if I would start all over again but with some small corrections I think this one will look ok with the rest of the package...

Kohburn MSG #254, 10-14-2004 04:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


No offence here, sorry I am just a bit sensitive when people compare it to existing designs when I try to stay away from those It know it could look better if I would start all over again but with some small corrections I think this one will look ok with the rest of the package...

if you start over mail me your current design

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #255, 10-15-2004 01:45 PM
      Some news on the triangle piece mockups:
Fiberglass resin would not eat the foam but appearantly my straight applied bondo did. Did some repairs but I decided to do it all over and change the design. Now it will be a one-piece cap that fits over the original triangle piece. No more cutting/fabbing/filling/sanding to mount it.
shaping the mockup back support:

cut two new pieces of foam

during shaping and testfitting:



more progress pics later...


pred1tor83 (pred1tor83@yahoo.com) MSG #256, 10-15-2004 02:06 PM
      you are going to mold that into the door right???? i think it would be a lot cleaner if you molded it all around... i take it thats the plan

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #257, 10-15-2004 03:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pred1tor83:

you are going to mold that into the door right???? i think it would be a lot cleaner if you molded it all around... i take it thats the plan

It fits over the triangle so it stays on the body. Molding and smoothing would be nice but I really drive the car and I want every part to be easily removable if damage occurs.


pred1tor83 (pred1tor83@yahoo.com) MSG #258, 10-15-2004 03:25 PM
      i c, i dont drive my fiero except when i want attention.... so if it gets hit, well i take it outa whoevers asss hit me

DanielKJenkins (jenkinsdan@swbell.net) MSG #259, 10-15-2004 03:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Hmm you're right about the nose

I was thinking BMW M1

http://www.lambocars.com/framed/highres/bmwm1.htm

I love the look of your car BTW.

[This message has been edited by DanielKJenkins (edited 10-15-2004).]

yellowstone MSG #260, 10-16-2004 07:09 PM
      You watch out, boy :-)

 
quote

Oh well, I am glad it doesnt look like a wannabe ferrari nose



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #261, 10-16-2004 09:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by yellowstone:

You watch out, boy :-)

LOL, yours is the exception to the looooong nose bad ones, I shut up

Kohburn: finally got a pic with the whole fiero

rearbumper bonus


May be rice to some but the Fiero IS an import overhere and the Volkswagen GTI guys havent got a clue what it is!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #262, 10-20-2004 06:51 PM
      rearlights at night, some fuzzy pics...

In the meantime it looks I am getting closer to a new winter project
Collecting parts, measuring, 3D tryouts...hmmm..this is next on the list

never finished!

ShueGlue737 (shueglue737@hotmail.com) MSG #263, 10-20-2004 08:14 PM
      this is some of the nicest custom work ive seen to a fiero. im very impressed, i wish i was as creative

justin

did i mention i want that front bumper?

pred1tor83 (pred1tor83@yahoo.com) MSG #264, 10-20-2004 10:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

rearlights at night, some fuzzy pics...

In the meantime it looks I am getting closer to a new winter project
Collecting parts, measuring, 3D tryouts...hmmm..this is next on the list

never finished!


Did i miss somthing.... is that a model or your actual interior??????????????? MORE PICS


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #265, 10-21-2004 12:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pred1tor83:
Did i miss somthing.... is that a model or your actual interior??????????????? MORE PICS

It is a 3D model! Heres the thread about the tryouts: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/041371.html
Right now I am figuring out how to build it. I try to keep most of the stock mounting locations of the accessories. Likely the main dash section can even stay in place.




doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #266, 10-21-2004 01:14 PM
      Just wanted to post this photoshop that I did in another thread for Kohburn... Fie Ro look! Its your new notchback model :P

This images is larger than 100K. Click to view.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #267, 10-21-2004 01:41 PM
      CC4: Wow! That really looks good! Now I better swap the rearclip for a notchie clip
...Imagine some Bubbajoexx style camaro rearhatch on the yellow one...


Kohburn MSG #268, 10-21-2004 01:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

CC4: Wow! That really looks good! Now I better swap the rearclip for a notchie clip
...Imagine some Bubbajoexx style camaro rearhatch on the yellow one...

no rear window.. but man oh man i told you i want one of your bumpers.. now hurry up and make me one - heck cut it into 3 peices that i can splice back together if you have to but get me one!!!!

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #269, 10-22-2004 10:45 AM
      That looks awesome, good idea!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #270, 10-22-2004 12:57 PM
      Time to trim and testfit the grill and an aluminium strip for the hoodvent:



They will be permanently mounted after painting...right now they will end up in a box with some other "after painting" goodies


Dough19 MSG #271, 10-22-2004 01:34 PM
      I don't know if I would like the aluminum strip on there, but the grill looks awesome. I also like the way you made the vent in general, it looks a little different from all of the other typical vents similar to yours. I can't waint to see this car finished. Mark

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #272, 11-03-2004 08:42 PM
      so hows it coming??? be a little while... hope everything is going ok...

evil (eviladam@comcast.net) MSG #273, 11-03-2004 09:32 PM
      this is one of the best looking cars i have ever seen! wish i new how to do that kind of stuff.

NotAFieroAnyLonger (stelebla@aol.com) MSG #274, 11-03-2004 11:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by evil:

this is one of the best looking cars i have ever seen! wish i new how to do that kind of stuff.

I wish I knew how too...

I love what you are doing!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #275, 11-04-2004 05:32 AM
      I couldn't resist to start on the interior already...
Heres the interior buildup-up thread:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/046970.html#lastpost



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #276, 11-27-2004 02:33 PM
      Well, most of the work goes to the interior right now but I am also looking at small corrections of the body everytime I see my fiero...!
This is my modded meecham style sidevent....too square right now IMO!:

Did some photoshopping and I think I will cut away some material to get something like this:

This looks like getting closer to the designs made by Ausfiero/Dietmar/Madcurl....so that must be right
I already planned some mesh in there but a CF insert could look cool there too!

Am I going to do something like this for real....hmmm I just drawed some lines on one of the scoops and looked at it from different angles....yeah...I am already convinced it will look good!!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #277, 11-27-2004 06:14 PM
      Took the pencil to the other side when I parked the fiero in the garage tonight...hmm...! I will drive with this next days untill I decide to make the final cut!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #278, 11-27-2004 09:54 PM
      Photoshopped a vent on the pic I took earlier tonight....

and a random pic for the diary...


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #279, 11-28-2004 12:01 AM
      IMO, I like this one

Why? More aggressive looking. If the opening it viewed as "too small" people might question it's functonallity? You can always stick a oil cooler in there, right?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #280, 11-28-2004 01:46 PM
      Yeah thats right, and it fits better to the style of the rest of the car too! Never finished
I just need a day off from work to get it done.


TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #281, 11-30-2004 12:31 PM
      bump...

so how are the scoops going?



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #282, 11-30-2004 12:42 PM
      Well tomorrow I guess! Got a day off I need some daylight and some space around the car so I can determine the right shape for the cut, then it will be done fast, I might have to build up a new edge but that isnt too hard to do....pics when I have them done

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #283, 12-01-2004 10:36 AM
      As promised:

Last check, a deep breath, njiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii and it is done!

Theres just minor trimming required.

It flows much better with the lines too! And you cant see anymore it was a meecham-style scoop originally



Kohburn MSG #284, 12-01-2004 10:49 AM
      very nice change - I aprove

Car Michael MSG #285, 12-01-2004 11:45 AM
      very creative work

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #286, 12-01-2004 12:48 PM
      now was it a mecham STYLE scoop or WAS it a mecham scoop... i think some people would kill if it was a mecham scoop. but either way its nice and does flow much better.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #287, 12-01-2004 01:37 PM
      I typed meecham-style so it is a copy. It is made of fiberglass unlike the originals which were made of a more flexible material (urethane?) if I recall right.

No need to kill me. please

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #288, 12-08-2004 08:48 PM
      ...well, my psychoterrorist ordered me to stay away from my obsession for several...weeks...trying to cure the fiero disease... ..so within a few days I will be going to the opposite side of this planet for about a whole month (Whoohoo!!!)....some might call it a "loooong holiday"!

Still theres something to post today. Its strange too see how many mods take several months of work and others develop in just a few hours....

I went shopping for some materials for the interior today... It appears the hardware store has some new patterns of aluminium sheet-uh-metal so I got some to play with..

The left piece is for the interior...


...putting some thingies in some holes while some gears start turning.......................

This picture also came to mind during the process:

Some nice work that inspired to make a variation..!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #289, 12-08-2004 09:41 PM
      It ended up like this so far today:



...still no cutting or drilling of the original vent required...only some sanding I started with 120grit on my electric mouse-sander, it is rough but I liked the "metal-flake" kind of look...so I started to experiment So far I wetsanded some edges and one "slope" with 400grit and some parts of the vent with the 120 grit. I wonder how it will look after some clearcoat..:

Now I just got 2 associations with this thing.....apple G5 frontcover....and an electric razor


ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #290, 12-08-2004 09:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
and an electric razor

hahaha... certainly original



magot (rednotchy@aol.com) MSG #291, 12-10-2004 06:26 PM
      man, nice tail lights, were did you get them??

Philphine (philphine@live.com) MSG #292, 12-10-2004 11:08 PM
      hey, i did something like that with my coupe, except i used perforated stainless steel. i did it because i wanted all the vents and scoops to match and i couldn't workout how to copy the slats on the side engine vents. thinking about doing my gt too but i'm hoping i can come up with a different idea.

DJWINNI MSG #293, 01-06-2005 08:28 AM
      bump..

something new?

yellowstone MSG #294, 01-06-2005 08:46 AM
      He's in New Zealand and I suppose didn't take his Fiero...

 
quote
Originally posted by DJWINNI:

bump..

something new?



ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #295, 01-06-2005 12:52 PM
      any one want his parts???


naahhhh i cant do that to him


Kohburn MSG #296, 01-06-2005 12:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ducattiman:

any one want his parts???


naahhhh i cant do that to him

quick send me the bumpers - he has molds to make more right?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #297, 01-08-2005 11:49 PM
      *Get a well deserved holiday and your car will be ripped apart in the meantime!! *

Oh well, before I went I glassed the car to the garage so you'll have to take that one too
I'll be back next week and then it is time to finish the body so its finally ready for paint....have to make some progress on the interior and during my holiday I have been sketching some ideas/mods for a new powerplant when all the cosmetic stuff is done....after all that I'll need a long holiday again..



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #298, 01-17-2005 04:14 PM
     

Steven Snyder (fiero@steventsnyder.com) MSG #299, 01-18-2005 11:44 PM
      That looks a lot better on the car than I thought it would. Leave 'em bare! The natural metal looks really good.

-Steven

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #300, 01-19-2005 10:34 AM
      Yeah I'll sand it to bare metal and apply some clearcoat (because the rough surfaces easily pick up dirt). The ribs under the the mesh will stay black. When the clearcoat is done I will pop the mesh onto the original vent.....another angle of the testfit:


Key Of David (keyofdavid88@alltel.net) MSG #301, 01-19-2005 04:14 PM
      Man you are showing awesome creativity in this project! Keep up the good work.



86_FiErO_GT (camsmith2@yahoo.com) MSG #302, 01-19-2005 11:29 PM
      Want to make me one of those rear bumbers? it looks sick i wanna get one on mine



1fastcaddy (ku_ace@yahoo.com) MSG #303, 02-14-2005 12:33 AM
      anything new? BUMP



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #304, 02-14-2005 01:38 PM
      Yes its my birthday today! I am a Valentine
Most of the work goes into the interior right now (see link in sign). I need some better weather for bodywork but I am doing some work to both vents and the triangle/mirror thingie...as always I will post update pics when I have them



Carswell...Wellscar (matt_13carswell@hotmail.com) MSG #305, 02-14-2005 03:14 PM
      I have been following both your builds and i think they are great and make me want to try something like that when i can find the time .. keep the up the good work ! can't wait to see the finish product !!
but have one question lol ..

what is this :

Was just curious seeing this and it just made me laugh
Matt


Kohburn MSG #306, 02-14-2005 04:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Carswell...Wellscar:

I have been following both your builds and i think they are great and make me want to try something like that when i can find the time .. keep the up the good work ! can't wait to see the finish product !!
but have one question lol ..

what is this :

Was just curious seeing this and it just made me laugh
Matt

its TAZ

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #307, 02-16-2005 04:16 PM
      Yeah thats Taz, he likes to yell at all the cars I leave behind! But he's asleep in that pic...

It was indeed time to check/do some bodywork...washed several months of winter driving from the car yesterday and this afternoon I went to my carclub's garage to do some prepping. Its heated and has carlifts, just what I needed and what I dont have at my place...managed to work on several bits of the detailwork...some overall impression pics:
Its gonna be mean when its done and painted!




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #308, 02-22-2005 03:00 PM
      Tomorrow I hope to close the deal with my new engine project.... It will be phase 3 on this project 1=body 2=interior....but I also need to lower the rear about another 1/2 inch, the front needs alignment anyway after the damage last year. I want to go coilover in the rear sometime but theres lots of other work to do so I will just cut another piece of the lowering springs and get a realignment, it still is a daily driver so it needs some care

aka lazy bump


Kohburn MSG #309, 02-22-2005 03:06 PM
      so when are you sending me a copy of your nose for my notchy?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #310, 02-22-2005 03:34 PM
      Which one of my noses do you want? One needs some finishing and detailing, the other one is a bit off-center since I had my accident years ago I smell the first one lol
...got to finish it all together first before offering crap that may not match..one step at a time..got to get it right first.
thanks for the support


bryson MSG #311, 02-22-2005 06:00 PM
      I tried to send you a PM, but it didn't go through. Check your email!
--Bryson



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #312, 02-24-2005 04:33 PM
      you got a reply... and I cleaned up my pm box, might work
...right now I dont have usefull molds because the shape is still changing, the car itself will be the final mold...for example, the rearbumper is a combination of about 7 pieces (gave me the ability to adjust a little during buildup) but too much work as a kit to get a final piece...if theres serious interest in parts I will have professional molds made and sell those after it is all done and painted... Remind the shorter nose needs some cutting of the front frame for clearance of the lights (its not much)

oh, dont forget to check my "got an engine" thread Its never finished
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/049515.html


ricreatr MSG #313, 02-24-2005 08:58 PM
      oh there's serious intrest all right!
cutting the nose would is something i have wanted to do for a long time!


ricreatr MSG #314, 03-31-2005 12:58 AM
      bump.
more?


Kohburn MSG #315, 03-31-2005 10:15 AM
      i would LOVE to have this nose for my notchy

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bryson MSG #316, 03-31-2005 10:19 AM
      I think the nose goes really well with the notchbacks and the fastbacks -- if you can make these (and somehow ship them to the states) at a reasonable price, I'm sure you could make some money!
--Bryson


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #317, 04-10-2005 04:11 PM
      ...this needs some updating..lol... Something is getting in the way to get the body done....

But since thats only "phase 3".... I'll try to get phase 1 *bodywork+paint* done first...


The hoodscoop is getting the Fie Ro/Yellowstone treatment:

Howto is here



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #318, 04-10-2005 04:55 PM
      ...Somehow I kinda 'lost' the rear "cap" section of one of the M3 rockers...must have hit a curb or something...took it off for repairs and other reinforcements where needed...theres a lot of corrections to do to most of 'my learning curve'...but this one is almost ready to go:

..3D striping..no stickers


Kohburn MSG #319, 05-17-2005 09:41 AM
      I just can't wait for you to make a mold - then paint it



matt 84 2m4 (thor842m4@aol.com) MSG #320, 05-17-2005 10:22 AM
      My god I love that front bumper it looks so good on the fiero!
super good work Fie Ro.


FieroRumor (thedigitalalchemist@nyc.rr.com) MSG #321, 05-17-2005 12:47 PM
      Very cool work so far! I like the body mods, and those new decklid vents!

There's just one little spot that doesn't look right, imo:



Kohburn MSG #322, 05-17-2005 12:56 PM
      without the side molding the bodywork doesn't flow into the rear bumper

it could be tweeked some but i think that line needs to stay

FieroRumor (thedigitalalchemist@nyc.rr.com) MSG #323, 05-17-2005 03:29 PM
      OIC!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #324, 05-17-2005 04:41 PM
      The scoop flows ok with the rearbumper this way but some other parts need some tweaking here and there so I am thinking what can be done at this stage and what is better to leave alone...

So most of the work goes into 'project Interior' and 'project Engine' now



maxsideburn (mike@mentalhouse.org) MSG #325, 06-30-2005 07:35 PM
      holy crap that shift console looks awesome! total kudos on that, that must have taken some time to get it to look so professional.

tigershark MSG #326, 07-11-2005 06:48 PM
      That interior is going to look so good. I am looking foward to pictures of it.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #327, 07-13-2005 04:25 PM
      here is the result of the last body change; I modified the windsplitter, added some pieces and smoothed it.

also the little cutout at the lower edge in the middle section is the same style as on the reardiffuser (to keep it in style )

basically the fiero is ready to go to the painter,...although there are always several little issues to correct... but its about time to hand it over, get the body done so I can move on......I just noticed I started this thread almost 2 years ago... get a life !


fierofetish (nickcann@teleline.es) MSG #328, 07-13-2005 07:19 PM
      Yep!! Get a life!! Come and see us for a few days!!
Nick and Ellie



t76racer (t76racer@aol.com) MSG #329, 07-13-2005 10:50 PM
      I think 2 years is worth the wait. I know long term projects can get alittle discouraging, but that is the baddest fiero body I have seen. You do excellent work. When are you going to get these on the market?


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #330, 07-14-2005 06:21 PM
      Nick: thanks and I recall your earlier invitation but its just too bloody hot in Spain nowadays ..but theres no excuse not to meet 'sometime'..

 
quote
Originally posted by t76racer:
I think 2 years is worth the wait. I know long term projects can get alittle discouraging, but that is the baddest fiero body I have seen. You do excellent work. When are you going to get these on the market?

I think the actual work started at least 3 years ago....also learning to fiberglass, and repairing mistakes, took time. I like to learn doing stuff Ive never done before but it takes time....so there are more ideas than results for the body right now but I will stick to how it looks today:

I look at it a bit like this; with gunmetal grey...uh..'primer'


Kohburn MSG #331, 07-26-2005 10:31 AM
      so how much $ to get a copy of that nose? (oh yeah and bump)



bryson MSG #332, 07-26-2005 10:55 AM
      Wow...in my opinion, that is probably the best looking Fiero I have seen to date. Excellent work!

revin MSG #333, 07-26-2005 11:19 AM
      hummmMMMm
looking like me now?? lol



Zreon (zreon@earthlink.net) MSG #334, 07-26-2005 02:09 PM
      That looks absolutly amazing. Keep up the great work. It will definitly be on my top 5 list once it is painted and finished.

-David

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #335, 07-26-2005 05:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:
so how much $ to get a copy of that nose? (oh yeah and bump)

You keep trying eh? Thanks but "time" is still the most limiting factor...so no copy anywhere soon..please dont wait for it.

 
quote
Originally posted by revin:
hummmMMMm
looking like me now?? lol

Yeah appearantly it starts to look a bit like you ....but I dont have your silly flames lol.. Although I have to admit I stole your engineswap idea too ...now deciding how I will paint the cleaned supercharger, it needs some coating anyway because it starts oxidating again

..since the gunmetal/aluminium/(and a little CF) combo is getting the main color-material theme on the whole fiero I will try to get them matched since several projects are overlapping now anyway....So basically the painting tryouts on smaller interior and engine parts will help to choose the right shade of gunmetal color for the body.....Of course this is some b*llsh*t reason why it takes sooo long...but a primered body allowes minor washing, no scare for scratches because you can fix them easily, no waxing, hmmm might keep it this way


CaliforniaSpeeder9 (midengine4life@gmail.com) MSG #336, 08-05-2005 08:30 AM
      This is the best looking fiero thats not a chop-top that ive ever seen. Stunning! I cant wait to see it finished, love that front end.



Kohburn MSG #337, 08-05-2005 10:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
You keep trying eh? Thanks but "time" is still the most limiting factor...so no copy anywhere soon..please dont wait for it.

you are gonna make me fly over there and steal it aren't ya ;D

I did find a fiberglass civic bumper on ebay and though about duplicating your work

[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 08-05-2005).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #338, 08-05-2005 08:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:
you are gonna make me fly over there and steal it aren't ya ;D
I did find a fiberglass civic bumper on ebay and though about duplicating your work

Youre welcome ! I know now there are several things I should have done differently (like some theft lock lol)...but then it never gets finished!..so if you seriously start with it I have some tips that should make it better matching to the rest of the body etc...I learned a lot trying to fiberglass and molding but time goes faster than getting ideas done...


Kohburn MSG #339, 08-08-2005 10:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Youre welcome ! I know now there are several things I should have done differently (like some theft lock lol)...but then it never gets finished!..so if you seriously start with it I have some tips that should make it better matching to the rest of the body etc...I learned a lot trying to fiberglass and molding but time goes faster than getting ideas done...

awesome - If i do it i'd love any tips you can offer -

goatnipples2002 (goatnipples2002@gmail.com) MSG #340, 08-08-2005 04:32 PM
      This car is so sick on so many levels. I like it the most because I don't like clones.....you want a ferrari buy one.....this is something special.....it's a 1 of custom. Your originality and creativity show through on this awesome body work. SICK JOB.

Project SRTFiero (raiderman986@charter.net) MSG #341, 08-08-2005 11:33 PM
      excellent work man that is sick, I love it. I want to start learning how to fiberglass stuff, so i can start doing stuff for my car, i love what you did though nice job man, best looking fiero i`ve seen, very original, i love original things especially cars.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #342, 10-11-2005 06:40 PM
      Ok heres the latest update... tomorrow I will finally hand over the fiero to the painter !! I still see a lot of stuff to do but they do many showcars so I just hope they finish it right...I didnt do much last weeks except for some pre-fitting of the the mesh for some vents. This is already the 3rd mesh variation on the fronthood vent (which is the second:variation on the second hoodvent...)


same change on the rear, still need to fab some frame for it

The plan tomorrow is to bring the fiero overthere and take off most body panels (except roof and rearclip) , organise the bolts nuts and fasteners that come off and hand it over....wish me luck


bryson MSG #343, 10-12-2005 05:00 AM
      Can't wait to see this thing!! Best of luck to you!



Kohburn MSG #344, 10-12-2005 09:24 AM
      PICS!!!!!

matchmade MSG #345, 10-12-2005 09:28 AM
      I've been watching this thread since the beginning and I can't wait to see the car painted. Your interior and body mods are truly inspiring. Seeing the marvelous things you've done with your car is the primary reason I want to learn how to fiberglass...heh. I bet you're looking forward to being done even more than we're looking forward to seeing it done!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #346, 10-12-2005 10:29 AM
      Beautiful weather this morning so after 2 and a half houres I stripped almost everything from the frame (except for the doorskins because I couldnt reach to drill out the rivets under the door). The roof and rearclip will stay on the car. Also took off the lights, mirrors, sunroofseal, mesh and strips, licenseplates etc. I have done this several times before, now I hope it is the last time!

 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:
PICS!!!!!
I agree!



I am still a bit nervous because theres lots of little sh*t to take care of....anyway here is where it will happen:

This guys name is kinda like a dutch version of Merlin the Magician....I hope he lives up to his name!



Kohburn MSG #347, 10-12-2005 01:31 PM
      wait - you already have a mold of the bumpers right? cuz I know you won't want to make a mold of painted parts..

still the best looking bumpers i've seen on a fiero and I still have dibs

yellowstone MSG #348, 10-13-2005 05:11 PM
      Hi, I'm getting ready to have the hood and the Stage 2 scoops painted. Already painted the underside of the hood flat black yesterday. I'm off work for 3 months now (changing jobs), I need to come over to look at your car sometime soon!

Let me know how the painter works for you and how the price is - I might bring the stuff over there if he's really good!

Kolja

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Beautiful weather this morning so after 2 and a half houres I stripped almost everything from the frame (except for the doorskins because I couldnt reach to drill out the rivets under the door). The roof and rearclip will stay on the car. Also took off the lights, mirrors, sunroofseal, mesh and strips, licenseplates etc. I have done this several times before, now I hope it is the last time!



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #349, 10-13-2005 05:21 PM
      I am really excited to see this car (and I'm hoping you've got some molds too... at least for that sweet rear bumper ).

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #350, 10-13-2005 05:58 PM
      Kolja, right now I am more concerned about the finishing of the parts I made than getting them to be painted right! They do a lot of bodywork, merging fiberglass stuff with euro/japanese showcars but also 'house of color' flipflop paintwork at a friendly price. I dont want the flipflop paint but I like the fact theyre doing showcars and pay some attention to the job. Come and look and decide when its finished, youre welcome to stay at my place.
The plan is to bake all the parts so all the sh*t and airbubbles come out (aaarghhh!), then a fresh base primer and sanding, then choosen metallic paint, sanding and the second layer of the paint, and finally the "better" clearcoat whatever it means All this is out of my hands, I just hope they do a good job.
Kohburn: I didnt wanted to wax and mold the bumper before paint! I would like to help you out but its better to finish this first, please dont hunt me


yellowstone MSG #351, 10-13-2005 07:16 PM
      I'm holding my thumbs for your car to come out as great as it deserves. Let me know when I can come over. I'm in France next week but could come the week after that...

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Kolja, right now I am more concerned about the finishing of the parts I made than getting them to be painted right! They do a lot of bodywork, merging fiberglass stuff with euro/japanese showcars but also 'house of color' flipflop paintwork at a friendly price. I dont want the flipflop paint but I like the fact theyre doing showcars and pay some attention to the job. Come and look and decide when its finished, youre welcome to stay at my place.
The plan is to bake all the parts so all the sh*t and airbubbles come out (aaarghhh!), then a fresh base primer and sanding, then choosen metallic paint, sanding and the second layer of the paint, and finally the "better" clearcoat whatever it means All this is out of my hands, I just hope they do a good job.
Kohburn: I didnt wanted to wax and mold the bumper before paint! I would like to help you out but its better to finish this first, please dont hunt me



dobey MSG #352, 10-16-2005 12:55 PM
      What did the nose piece that you used as a base originally come from?

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #353, 10-16-2005 01:53 PM
      Honda Accord or Civic, the lights are clear aftermarket for a Prelude. Cant recall the exact years but the info must be somewhere in this thread..!

Kolja (Yellowstone) I think it will take a week from now, and give me another week to put most of the stuff back on the car...I'll keep you updated.
Heres an earlier testfit of the Fierowarehouse quarterwindow:

It has the dot matrix print and in all I think it looks a littlebit better than than the Fierostore's (=Kahines):

Both fit nice but the stocklike matrix of Doug's windows is really a pre...and fastback owners always check each others quarterwindows
I took the mirrors apart to have the housings chromed because after polishing and clearcoat they still could look better. I also need to change the outer dew wipes which I actually started on one side but then I got the call
The decklid vents also need to be finished and I am organising my collection of bolts, nuts and other fasteners...because I used a minimum amount of fasteners while swapping parts all the time, for the final assembly I need some more
So theres still a lot of work to do while the fiero is not here.

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 10-16-2005).]

magot (rednotchy@aol.com) MSG #354, 10-16-2005 03:11 PM
      Cant wait to see it painted

NY_FIERO (timg@expressmart.com) MSG #355, 10-16-2005 10:17 PM
      What a tasteful concept of a /.... refined fiero...
I'm really impressed and excited to see your end result.
After the time you've invested you deserve a big thumbs up.


NorthFloridaFiero (mfs20001@gmail.com) MSG #356, 10-16-2005 10:59 PM
      Be sure to clean out the blower inside. The one i got for a spare was nasty black and i took some carb cleaner and it came out really nice and un carboned
I got pics of the before and after if anyone is interested


Kohburn MSG #357, 10-17-2005 09:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Kohburn: I didnt wanted to wax and mold the bumper before paint! I would like to help you out but its better to finish this first, please dont hunt me

haha - I'm so jealous

hmm don't you have the original mold you made that one from?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #358, 10-17-2005 02:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NorthFloridaFiero:
Be sure to clean out the blower inside. The one i got for a spare was nasty black and i took some carb cleaner and it came out really nice and un carboned
I got pics of the before and after if anyone is interested

Got mine completely disassembled and hottanked, its pretty clean now Maybe too much cleaning; the rotors are pretty shiny , I guess the teflon coating is gone....would that matter much? .....

Already prepared for an intercooler...:

And heres a mockup of some cleaned and painted parts:

But it will take a lot more work and parts to get it to run....winterproject
First I need to get the body done!


NorthFloridaFiero (mfs20001@gmail.com) MSG #359, 10-19-2005 09:32 AM
      You painted that m90 right? Or did you polish it?

http://www.zzperformance.com/products1.php?id=155
^I'd recommend that. Its the last one you will ever neeed. On my friends gtp it was makin all sorta of rattling noises from the snout. One last thing to fix down the road, and I'm sure you don't want to smell that rank supercharger oil twice.

Before http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/202/p1010080copy3yh.jpg
After http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7701/p1010081copy6ll.jpg

[This message has been edited by NorthFloridaFiero (edited 10-19-2005).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #360, 10-19-2005 09:48 AM
      Yes the m90 is painted. The coupler was the first reason to take it apart, it had about 60Kmiles but its already worn....Its already on the long shoppinglist for ZZP....

see you added the pics, turned out pretty clean!

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 10-19-2005).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #361, 10-21-2005 03:16 PM
      Well I just got a call from the painter.
They had some delays this week but he said most of the panels are done....so I'm invited to take a look tomorrow and to put some parts back on... its getting pretty exciting now I am sooo curious how the paint and finish turns out...Appearantly the bumpers were a lot of work though (as expected) and they went back 3 times for primer and sanding ...I expected worse news though....they have to deal with my learning curve of backyard fiberglassing but so far so good I hope..I'm gonna check it tomorrow!

Heres my daily driver this week:

tubular frame, 28" wheels, 1/140hp and environmental friendly....and all that fresh air when driving it


Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #362, 10-21-2005 04:17 PM
      Fie Ro.. I swear... I love to hate you.. I am just wizing myself right now just thinking about how its going to look.. I have said this before, I am not that biggest fan of fastbacks, but yours just makes me wonder... I hope it turns out 1000X better then you think. You just need to move to North America now.. haha



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #363, 10-22-2005 12:00 PM
      Spy pics!.....
So today was the first time I saw the paint and finish of some of the parts....WOOHOOO!!! Its a great job theyre doing, no doubt! I mounted the hoods, taillights and fenders today, it is a gunmetal color with a hint of olive green and its just what I had in mind its hard to capture the color on camera but here you go:






Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #364, 10-22-2005 12:09 PM
     




I am sure now, I want to replace the lights for something less shiny sometime soon:




Disillusion MSG #365, 10-22-2005 12:15 PM
      Wow. All i can say is wow, thats going to look amazing. Love the choice of colour, I've been wanting to paint my car a very similar colour for the longest time. Can't wait to see it with front and rear fascia's back on and the differen't tail lights. You must feel like a little kid on christmas eve waiting to get it back

Mombatoo (ekimronnoco@unidial.com) MSG #366, 10-22-2005 12:20 PM
      Absolutely go with less shiny on the taillights.... What you show as a sample I think is perfect! Watching this thread for quite sometime, it's better than a suspense novel! Can't wait for each day to see what kind of plot twist there has been.... This is a show winner for sure!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #367, 10-22-2005 01:28 PM
      Yeah I guess its a bit like a novel, ..I just think its more fun to share little progress than keeping it secret untill the end... With this little "diary" I hope to encourage people to do their thing their own way...and to be honest, the support from this forum kept me going too! Thanks... These guys were working on the bumpers and trim pieces today:



They feel smooooth!( my bodywork pieces ) I could never have done it like that. They put a lot of work into it. More on this story coming up..one of these days..


hoing_ya (mattfroese@shaw.ca) MSG #368, 10-22-2005 09:45 PM
      Bump for an insane looking fiero, and alot of hard work

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #369, 10-23-2005 02:18 PM
      Did some work on the decklid vents. I decided its just easier to paint them than more and more wetsanding. But first getting the grills ready:




I hope its not too much bling but we'll see...

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 10-23-2005).]

hoing_ya (mattfroese@shaw.ca) MSG #370, 10-23-2005 10:29 PM
      Not that this competes with yours, but heres a pic of my Car! http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/hoing_ya/Picture027.jpg

F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #371, 10-24-2005 12:16 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hoing_ya:
Not that this competes with yours, but heres a pic of my Car! http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/hoing_ya/Picture027.jpg

The car looks awesome! Just a couple problems with the pic though... Need to have more, need to have a cool background, needs one or more girlies, get rid of the dork in the drivers seat!

hoing_ya (mattfroese@shaw.ca) MSG #372, 10-24-2005 12:26 AM
      HEY! im the dork in the driver seat, HAHAHA, yea i had a guy from the forum make me a sig, now i gotta find a way to post it, i have no idea how to post it. i am tinted out in it hahaha and there is a gurl in it, hahaha, the disrespect is not appreciated... just kiddin

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #373, 10-24-2005 02:16 AM
      Yeah I would be the guy that tinted out the dork in his sig ,

Hey Fie-Ro

What do you think about this... That rear is how I am going to make mine.. I made that a while back. I just didn't want my exhaust out the classic way, so my trunk is being removed to fit these... Lemme know ur thoughts, as it is/was your car in the pic !

fieromadman (j_depies@hotmail.com) MSG #374, 10-24-2005 02:23 AM
      to post your sig you need to first download pennocks image poster... theres a link on the bottom of almost any page on the forum for it, its that blue button thingy. From there you need to follow the directions and oyu should be able to figure it out.

Fie Ro, your car looks incredible, what a nice job you did with customizing the exterior. I'd give you a plus but i allready did!

revin MSG #375, 10-24-2005 10:30 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Wow even down to the injectors!!! I have more pics of MY engine if you need more Ideas And now the paint !???!!!!! Yes I even have a green tint added as well.
Should I take a few pics of my interior color set-up for ya as well?!?!

Just let me know what other pics you need to look at so you can be just like me!! Sorry the flames are a one of a kind anyway!


You know I am only joking with ya! The car is really starting to take shape ( and color) Even though the mellow yellowish color was kinda growing on me......



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #376, 10-24-2005 11:12 AM
      Hmmmm, shut up Revin
Maybe I should stop posting these ideas for you You changed your dressup after seeing my pics I want an intercooler on this engine......next you say you'll be doing that too?!!
On a positive way, great minds must think alike

custom2m4: have a go at it!
Are these 6" tips?


revin MSG #377, 10-24-2005 11:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

I want an intercooler on this engine......next you say you'll be doing that too?!!
On a positive way, great minds must think alike

Funny you say that...I just won a new one off ebay last week ! huh BEFORE I saw you were getting one ( or thinking of one) NOW let's see who has theirs on first!

Kohburn MSG #378, 10-24-2005 11:51 AM
      hey thats not a fair comparison since you are still in the states :P



revin MSG #379, 10-24-2005 12:35 PM
      ok FINE I am a fair man....I will wait 1 month( and 1 day for the time diff. ) till I start ripping into my already running motor.

I lie....I want to "play" a bit with this intercooler. maybe some porting / smoothing / shining.

Oh and I did not paint my blower just shined up that pretty Alum. , a bit of sealent and wham !

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #380, 10-24-2005 01:00 PM
      I've been looking for a used intercooler setup for some time but some guy called "fastfieros" keeps snatching them ...I smell a conspiracy!
If I cant find one I'll add it to my zzp shoppinglist (and pay 25% tax over parts+shipping) But I'll take the time because I dont feel like competing..lol (because I would lose)

Ok, I am off now to scrape the paint of the blower and polish it like yours..

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #381, 10-24-2005 01:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by revin:
I lie....I want to "play" a bit with this intercooler. maybe some porting / smoothing / shining.

Theres some thin metal webbing in the middle of the intercooler that blocks the air form the supercharger. When you cut all that out it will improve airflow.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #382, 10-26-2005 02:24 PM
      update...
I had some spare time today so I went to take a look at the new painted parts and geting them on the car...put the windshield/sunroof rubbers in place (the interior is pretty soaked by yesterdays weather ). Almost all parts are painted, just some minor touchup in a few places. If they or I find some issue they take care of it...! Rearbumper installed:

frontbumper...some dirty work on the back:

frontbumper...blingbling on the front:




revin MSG #383, 10-26-2005 02:37 PM
      Why worry about the FRONT end?

With the 3800sc all they will see is the tail lights !! so worry about the looks of that !

p.s. I cut out that center piece you told me about on the IC , seems to flow much better now !

Kohburn MSG #384, 10-26-2005 02:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
frontbumper...blingbling on the front:


oh you evil evil man

*DROOL*


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #385, 10-26-2005 03:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by revin:
Why worry about the FRONT end?
With the 3800sc all they will see is the tail lights !! so worry about the looks of that !

I have a crappy short video how it looks today, the old 2.8 (and no muffler) clipped the sound though ...whats easiest to have it hosted and linked? its 1.7mb



Kohburn MSG #386, 10-26-2005 03:47 PM
      www.putfile.com

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #387, 10-26-2005 04:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kohburn:
www.putfile.com

Thanks, thats what i was looking for!
http://media.putfile.com/hostingpy-vid-of-rear
I am not worried about the lights because its pretty easy to change to a different looking set..but first I will put all the pieces of the puzzle together and then see what needs attention. (btw Revin this vid was taken shortly before a drive around the block, with no front and sideskirts/scoops so people only got to see the rear )

sidescoop:

close-up

all parts are pretty dusty but it hardly shows...lol..headlightdoors back in place:


shaved the -pontiac- from the headlight door already a long time ago...
I am still debating on using a custom logo, a pontiac reference or just no signs at all..


GonsaiPK MSG #388, 10-26-2005 05:19 PM
      You're really trying hard for the "Best Fiero in the World" award, huh? I like it. Big thumbs up from me!

It's looking really good clean as it is now. But, on the other hand, one Fiero emblem between the tailights or in the center of the grill could be really classy and exotic-looking. It would bring the look of the car together IMHO.

GonsaiPK MSG #389, 10-26-2005 05:32 PM
      Kinda Ferrari-esque. I dunno if you want to use their signature feature though.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #390, 10-26-2005 07:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GonsaiPK:
Kinda Ferrari-esque. I dunno if you want to use their signature feature though.

I like that!.. I figured a fiero emblem wouldnt be suitable after all the mods and butchering it, but I would be proud having it there...

el_roy1985 MSG #391, 10-26-2005 09:17 PM
      Yeah, I can't wait to see this thing all put together. This has been one of my favorite threads to watch for a long time

F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #392, 10-26-2005 10:34 PM
      Fie Ro, after all the work you've put into this car, you deserve to have your own Logo. People won't believe it's a Fiero anyway, and since you created this masterpiece, it needs to have that finishing touch that identifies you as the creator. Not a knock off of a Fiero emblem, or a Ferrari emblem, but something as distinct as the car.

Saber49 (saber61@hotmail.com) MSG #393, 10-26-2005 10:59 PM
      good god... this guy is nuts... how much do i have to pay have him work on my car... geeze... nice work Fie Ro... your car is awsome... i can't wait to see the final product... keep at it.



Kohburn MSG #394, 10-27-2005 07:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GonsaiPK:

Kinda Ferrari-esque. I dunno if you want to use their signature feature though.

reminds me more of an aston martin than a ferrari

either way its HOT


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #395, 10-27-2005 08:47 AM
      Yeah esp. the upper intake was inspired by an Aston Martin...I tried to mix several ideas ....and I just ordered a set of these 5 minutes ago! Its a go :


MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #396, 10-27-2005 12:57 PM
      Wow - that looks just awesome! I'm really looking forward to seeing it completed... it's going to be a stunning car!

any thoughts about making reproductions of the fasicas? I'm still interested in the rear!

Oh yeah - as for a grill emblem, you should do what Yellowstone did with his "Christmas Ornament" from the Fierostore! http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20050818-1-048853.html

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Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #397, 10-27-2005 03:19 PM
      yes I remember Yellowstone's, but I already have 2 spare badges to try out first, one is a silver "Fiero GT" badge but its a little bent, the other one is a gold "Fiero" badge...I will try them later. Saturday I hope most of the work is done so I can take the Fiero back home and do some more work

About reproducing parts; First I want to see how everything looks when its complete. If theres enough interest new (professional) molds could be made maybe but it would require lots of extra work and cash...The reardiffuser should blend with stock fiero bodies but the nose requires some extra work and lower sideskirts to match the lines..

edit: add, Yellowstone's has just the right color and appearance...hmmm!

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 10-27-2005).]

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #398, 10-28-2005 12:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

About reproducing parts; First I want to see how everything looks when its complete. If theres enough interest new (professional) molds could be made maybe but it would require lots of extra work and cash...The reardiffuser should blend with stock fiero bodies but the nose requires some extra work and lower sideskirts to match the lines..


I'm primarily interested in the rear fascia/diffuser (as I've already got the side skirts, and I'm pretty happy with my front fascia) - it's one of the only areas on my GT that isn't modded in one way or another! No pressure... just keep us posted!

 
quote

Yellowstone's has just the right color and appearance...hmmm!

Yes... it's the pewter finish that really caught my attention - as I figured it'd go perfectly with your gunmetal color!


Kohburn MSG #399, 10-28-2005 01:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
About reproducing parts; First I want to see how everything looks when its complete. If theres enough interest new (professional) molds could be made maybe but it would require lots of extra work and cash...The reardiffuser should blend with stock fiero bodies but the nose requires some extra work and lower sideskirts to match the lines..

I'll do it cheap - I swear!!!

I just need something to start with - like your last version of the bumper etc..




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #400, 10-28-2005 01:09 PM
      Looks like the old altezzas will only share a few days with the painted car
Just got these in today and I think they will look way better:


They need some trimming and modding first but Ive done that before


MDFierolvr (sabre628@aol.com) MSG #401, 10-28-2005 01:55 PM
      Beautiful car... thats about all I can muster right now. You have definately given me some ideas

Formula MSG #402, 10-28-2005 08:54 PM
     

Slater_334 (whooda@gmail.com) MSG #403, 10-28-2005 11:36 PM
      i have become a lurker in the past year but this is a prime example of why i continue viewing this forum. great job and keep up the good work.

F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #404, 10-29-2005 12:45 AM
      darn it!!! I saw a new page and thought that we could finally see the finished product- all assembled!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #405, 10-29-2005 02:09 PM
      Its...almost finished...almost assembled...but definitely back on the road
...Fieros are never finished, we all know that
Got a lot of "looks like aston martin/maserati" comments on the nose, which is good I guess because if I wanted a ferrari nose its way easier to bold on a 355 style nose. Looks like everybody digs the color...hard to catch on camera though but it looks quite "chique"...the painter admitted today he first thought I was nuts choosing this color...but hey I am a customer.., and he says now it makes sense lol...anyway, you want pics eh?





Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #406, 10-29-2005 02:12 PM
      Still a lot of finishing to do like fitting moldings/sidewindows/grills/dew wipes etc and some more adjusting and lining up bodypanels...






YoungFieroMan754 (ross.kidwell@my.sinclair.edu) MSG #407, 10-29-2005 02:51 PM
      o wow..thats just awsome....nice nice nice job

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #408, 10-29-2005 03:02 PM
      i think I have grown used to the tan primer.... Made me look into the whole world of autobody primers.. haha Still looks good, but it must be a huge change for you?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #409, 10-29-2005 03:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:
i think I have grown used to the tan primer.... Made me look into the whole world of autobody primers.. haha Still looks good, but it must be a huge change for you?

lol...I have accepted the new situation pretty fast , now the neigbourhood has to deal with it too Since I got home this afternoon many people stopped by and asked obvious questions like "did you paint it?"...lol...so i didnt got much done.


el_roy1985 MSG #410, 10-29-2005 03:53 PM
      That is awesome! If you ever do make some of those bumpers for people to buy, I might buy one. Although I would like to take a shot at making my own. Who knows how that will turn out though.

F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #411, 10-29-2005 03:58 PM
      I love that front end. Great choice with the grill work using black in the center and silver under the lights. I've got to have that front end- imagine how much nicer it would look on a Notchie! Please let me know if you ever decide to sell it. I might have to go back through this thread and make it myself, I don't know how long I can wait...

edit:

I just can't stop staring at it! I can't imagine anyone comming out with a more perfrect look for me to have on the front of my car. That with the Aus scoops I'm still putting on... the wheels are spinning!

edit: back again!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #412, 10-30-2005 12:14 AM
     

Fie the paint job looks fantastic ! The car really came out well.

Just one thought though, and maybe i am not the only one to notice, but now that you have that nice shiney paint job, the rims seem to be a little dull (in shade) in comparison.

Don't get me wrong I love the style, it just seems like they need to be polished up, chromed or something to bring them up to the brilliant level of the paint.

F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #413, 10-30-2005 12:21 AM
      ...and the interior needs to be finished, and the taillights replaced, and the engine swapped, and putting me in your will, and...

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #414, 10-30-2005 12:47 AM
      I like that nose. The gun metal paint looks nice!




Jake_Dragon MSG #415, 10-30-2005 08:41 AM
      Very nice!

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #416, 10-30-2005 09:51 AM
      Beautiful!

fiero_silva (dynocompebmxer@hotmail.com) MSG #417, 10-30-2005 11:08 AM
      WOW... that is amazing, simple amazing!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #418, 10-30-2005 11:20 AM
      thanks!

 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Just one thought though, and maybe i am not the only one to notice, but now that you have that nice shiney paint job, the rims seem to be a little dull (in shade) in comparison.

Thats because they were pretty dirty I guess, cleaned they already look better...unless I find a sponsor for bigger wheels I will keep these for a while


Theres a lot of clean up and finishing to do but its fun and the weather is great (record breaking temperatures this "autumn" weekend!). Preparing Doug's quarterwindows with the supplied tape:

Hoodvent grill mounted:





Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #419, 10-30-2005 11:45 AM
     
will change the taillights later this week..

...big boys and their toys ..new toy of a neighbour:

Since I am finally driving in style, I'll also start drinking in style cheers!


Disillusion MSG #420, 10-30-2005 11:53 AM
      Now you just need to hurry up with the engine swap lol. The 2.8 looks a little out of place in a car that sharp. Never knew mercedes built military style vehicles, thought it was kind of funny when i saw your neighbours new toy. Do you have any clue if you can get the Fiero Martini stuff in Canada?

yellowstone MSG #421, 10-30-2005 02:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Disillusion:

Never knew mercedes built military style vehicles, thought it was kind of funny when i saw your neighbours new toy.

Mercedes builds the G model, the "humvee" of many armies in Europe, Asia and Far East...

And the best 4x4 in the world, the Unimog:

 
quote
Do you have any clue if you can get the Fiero Martini stuff in Canada?

No, this is only available in Europe. I buy it in Belgium as it is not sold in Germany.

[This message has been edited by yellowstone (edited 10-30-2005).]

yellowstone MSG #422, 10-30-2005 02:59 PM
      Roderick, your Fiero is a beauty, I'm looking forward to seeing it soon, maybe next week! Stunning! I bet your happy!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #423, 10-30-2005 04:34 PM
      its an '67 Unimog with 10Kmiles. Used before by the german army and a dutch forest firebrigade....this will pull out any stuck Blazer or Jeep

I have to agree my pretty stock engine doesnt look funky...so I quickly photoswapped the L67 after swapping the bottle of Fiero...lol.. this could be a fancy bbq


FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #424, 10-30-2005 05:45 PM
      Where do you find it in belgium, I did not see it any of the stores when I was all over europe this summer?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #425, 10-30-2005 06:11 PM
      Found out my local supermarket (50 meters away!) has it also, so i got it for the occasion...I smell a beter business than selling bodyparts



FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #426, 10-30-2005 06:23 PM
      ok, ill take a bottle, and a front end please.
how much would that set me back?


1fastcaddy (ku_ace@yahoo.com) MSG #427, 10-30-2005 07:09 PM
      That will cost you an arm and a leg in the body part business. ok,ok, but really, how much for the front end? the fiero drink would be nice to. laters



pauledude (paule@fuse.net) MSG #428, 10-31-2005 01:09 AM
      Nice Mog. A friend of mine as one he bought from the casino in S Lake Tahoe. Schmitt cab on it is a bit goofy. they used it to plow th lot with,Minimal miles. He did some mods to it, now he runs gear into the Rubicon for events, and helps clear the "road" ( the Rubicon trail is acualy labled a road by the USFS) after snow knocks some trees down to get it ready for the season of wheeling. It's a beast.
This images is larger than 100K. Click to view.

Nice craftsmanship on your car too.



Will-Martin MSG #429, 10-31-2005 03:38 AM
      Your car is very innovative, especially the front! Hats off to you man, that Fiero has been taken to the limit!

--Will

Kohburn MSG #430, 10-31-2005 08:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


lol...I have accepted the new situation pretty fast , now the neigbourhood has to deal with it too Since I got home this afternoon many people stopped by and asked obvious questions like "did you paint it?"...lol...so i didnt got much done.

thats hot - the color even reminds me of an A/M.. should get a lot of attention wherever you go

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #431, 10-31-2005 01:30 PM
      Its back in service as a commuter car like pontiac intended So this is the only pic today...still needs stuff done though


Kohburn MSG #432, 10-31-2005 02:50 PM
      looks like you are still missing a mirror

but looks amazing

I want to combine that nose with a notchy sporting an imsa spoiler

revin MSG #433, 11-01-2005 09:19 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
Since I am finally driving in style, I'll also start drinking in style cheers!

NOW we know what has taken so long to finish this project !

I must say it looks super! ( well except for the want-a-be 3800sc in that one pic)

The deck lid vents are a very good upgrade! ( though it makes me want to go shave)

the front end reminds me of the old "smooth mobile" he had the nose cut up similar to that. very modern


so............................NOW WHAT?????? ( oh yeah...the engine.....) how far along is that?

Your north american counterpart




GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #434, 11-01-2005 04:59 PM
      Very Very Very nice . Did I say very nice car ?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #435, 11-03-2005 12:32 PM
      Did some work on the new taillights and wiriing this afternoon...started trimming excess material:

removed the studs and tapped to fit my longer ones:

the sockets need some dremel time to make the fiero connectors fit

this taillight is a bit different from the old one so I have to fit orange blinkers in the clear lenses:

Soldered all the wiring for the final setup and sealed it with shrink sleeves:


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #436, 11-03-2005 12:43 PM
      I think they look and blend waaay better than the old ones

the orange blinkers:

The decklid still needs work done...later


Oversteer (neil.wilcox@aecom.com) MSG #437, 11-03-2005 02:48 PM
      You did it right. That looks awesome. Keeping the ricer factor down is hard, but you seemed to pull it off rather well.

yellowstone MSG #438, 11-03-2005 05:10 PM
      Much better - I'm very impressed! Did you see my PM re. the parts swap?

Unsafe At Any Speed (astevens@montana.edu) MSG #439, 11-04-2005 07:04 PM
      I'd buy a rear fascia too.

The car definatly looks badass.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #440, 11-05-2005 02:47 PM
      todays tooltip: use a dual action grill tensioner

I use it on both sides untill the sealant has cured....better not forget to take em off before driving..lol
Tried finding a location to do the Fiero emblem "mod"....


hmm..I really hate needing a license plate...theres another setup I will try tomorrow..
And theres still a lot of other small adjustments and detailing to do...yeehaa! more updates later..cheers



HI-TECH (centralvalley606@yahoo.com) MSG #441, 11-05-2005 03:12 PM
      ....i'm speachless.... there gonna be a mold of that front bumper any time soon ...i'm gonna go change my underware now

metoady (metoad@adelphia.net) MSG #442, 11-05-2005 04:38 PM
      what do the tail lights belong to
just wondering???




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #443, 11-05-2005 04:59 PM
      Honda prelude 97-00
Got the chromed altezzas about 3 years ago...but its way too rice/common right now, luckily the new CF version blends way better with the new paint.



BobadooFunk (bobadoofunk@gmail.com) MSG #444, 11-05-2005 06:39 PM
      WOW.... once that engine is in..... holy cow..... Well when me and my girlfriend make our trip to Europe in the next yr or so.. TELL me i can see, ride in (and possibly drive ) your car!!



Carswell...Wellscar (matt_13carswell@hotmail.com) MSG #445, 11-05-2005 07:13 PM
      hey been watching your thread ever since i first saw it ..wow ..just wow ..i wish i could do what you do ..i would say ..looks very professional ..and your car looks great..maybe i can come see your car too if i'm over visiting my family in holland ..and then go down to switzerland where i'm from ..too bad you didn't live in north america ..you could sell your designs ..anyways i had a question about your rims ..i really like them ..what they ..and i know your busy on the exterior ..i just can't wait for your finished interior too ..good luck and keep the pics coming

matt

Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #446, 11-05-2005 07:42 PM
      Wow.. car looks great!

Only thing I don't like is the screen in the mustang scoop. It just doesn't look right. Maybe its cause it fits like ass, or could be the angle, I dunno. The pic of the tail light just above this post, without the screen in yet, looks much better imho. The rest of the car is amazing..

[This message has been edited by Jncomutt (edited 11-05-2005).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #447, 11-06-2005 11:37 AM
      Carswell: they are Lenso Concept Five...but there are more brands like Racing Hart C5 in the US...I have them for about 5 years but they still look good on a fiero.
Jncomutt: you are right about the grill, but its sitting only on a piece of wood in the last pic I still have to fab a bracket and frame to get it properly mounted.....it should look better then...or it has to go!
The front sidegrills are sitting tight in place now:




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #448, 11-06-2005 12:07 PM
      I am spending most of the time cleaning non painted parts...old primer overspray, sanding dust, dirt, its pretty dirty... also decided today to redo the ventbrackets:



relocated the licenseplate under the bumper, looks slightly better now


matchmade MSG #449, 11-06-2005 12:59 PM
      Your eye and attention to detail are astounding. Many of the fieros we see on this forum are beautiful custom cars, but yours is one of the few I would call a work of art. Looking forward to seeing it completely done.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #450, 11-06-2005 02:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Ah sir, could you show a "straight-on" shot from the rear please. I'm old and my neck and eyes hurt trying to see it, hehe. Add a panarama view. Add a girl standing next too it.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-06-2005).]

yellowstone MSG #451, 11-06-2005 02:17 PM
      Next time I go over to Roderick (Fie Ro) I take my wife :-) Now his Fiero is worthy!

But Bikini weather is over, I guess...

j/k

 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Ah sir, could you show a "straight-on" shot from the rear please. I'm old and my neck and eyes hurt trying to see it, hehe. Add a panarama view. Add a girl standing next too it.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #452, 11-06-2005 03:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Ah sir, could you show a "straight-on" shot from the rear please. I'm old and my neck and eyes hurt trying to see it, hehe. Add a panarama view. Add a girl standing next too it.

Lol..thank you mr. Curl, we try to incorporate your wishes into the upcoming photoshoots ! Looks theres already a solution for your last request :
 
quote
Originally posted by yellowstone:
Next time I go over to Roderick (Fie Ro) I take my wife :-) Now his Fiero is worthy!
But Bikini weather is over, I guess...
j/k

Sorry, painter said no clothes on fresh paint allowed, only warm skin



Albert MSG #453, 11-06-2005 04:24 PM
      Amazing paint job Roderick. I love to see it close up.

Grtz Albert

yellowstone MSG #454, 11-06-2005 04:44 PM
      Dirty bastard. See, once the car looks halfway decent, the guy starts to get uppity... :-)

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Sorry, painter said no clothes on fresh paint allowed, only warm skin



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #455, 11-07-2005 01:13 PM
      Hi Albert, you are close enough to have a look Or maybe we could plan a small meeting at Veenendaal (again) if more people would like a meeting before winter sets in...

 
quote
Originally posted by yellowstone:
Dirty bastard. See, once the car looks halfway decent, the guy starts to get uppity... :-)

Yeah I am working on my attitude too! but I am not the one exploiting his wife

 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Ah sir, could you show a "straight-on" shot from the rear please. I'm old and my neck and eyes hurt trying to see it, hehe. Add a panarama view. Add a girl standing next too it.

got this straight-on shot today for you:


avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #456, 11-07-2005 02:31 PM
      The new tail lights look real good. They also match the car better.

[This message has been edited by avengador1 (edited 11-07-2005).]

FastIndyFiero (harleyhat1@hotmail.com) MSG #457, 11-07-2005 03:35 PM
      Damn. I'll take a Fie Ro body kit any day. It would look absolutely stunning with a Pontiac arrowhead right where the front plate is for us in the States.

How about some high-res wallpaper pics



revin MSG #458, 11-07-2005 03:41 PM
      sweet ! now just add that BIG rice wing and your all set !!! j/k

I am finding that a nice sliver type of paint is a very nice touch for the highlites/ accents. There is so much alum. on the engine for "just a good polishing" not paint is all that is needed. take that paint off some parts and you will see

OR

Use your own judgement ( seems to be very good so far)

Oh and I hope some of the "filler" doesn't crack when you add the real motor in there no fun redoing that after the paint is on there


BobadooFunk (bobadoofunk@gmail.com) MSG #459, 11-07-2005 06:37 PM
      Fie Ro, can you e-mail me high res pix of your car..? Psychosk8er123@juno.com
i need a new backround, and when i go home i have Photoshop CS2 waiting for me.. so i need a beauty to make a backround of


kmerkle01 (merkoskm@clarkson.edu) MSG #460, 11-07-2005 08:07 PM
      unbelievable job on this car man a+++++++++++++++++++ my second favorite fiero, sorry madcurls takes the cake

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #461, 11-07-2005 08:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by kmerkle01:

unbelievable job on this car man a+++++++++++++++++++ my second favorite fiero, sorry madcurls takes the cake

Yeah but he's got so many which one you talking about hehehe ?

Momba2 (mombatoo@insightbb.com) MSG #462, 11-08-2005 10:39 AM
      A little new here: Keep seeing references to Madcurls car. Can someone post a pic(s)? I would like to see just what it looks like! Thanks, M.

revin MSG #463, 11-08-2005 01:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Momba2:

A little new here: Keep seeing references to Madcurls car. Can someone post a pic(s)? I would like to see just what it looks like! Thanks, M.


edit: PLEASE
NOT IN THIS THREAD !!!

Do a search for his car. don't ruin this thread with someone elses car! ( no offence curly)

[This message has been edited by revin (edited 11-08-2005).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #464, 11-08-2005 01:55 PM
     
Excellent job. The tail-lamps look 100% better than the other ones.


Carswell...Wellscar (matt_13carswell@hotmail.com) MSG #465, 11-08-2005 06:13 PM
      oh yes some hi res pics would be nice to have some too ..i'll PM you my email too

thanks
matt and what a great car ..as i said before
question ..how much was the paintjob if you don't mind me asking


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #466, 11-09-2005 07:04 PM
      Lol...I wouldnt dare challenging Madcurl....no chance at all. ..when I started some years ago I just wanted to change some body pieces and it developed to what it is today....but it could always be better! It takes a lot of time to get it done and new ideas come faster than the hands can do...so I love to see all the cool choptop and widebody stuff and other projects people are doing on this forum....!

For those who wanted hires pics: thanks a lot for your interest, but give me a week or so to get some better pics... I looked over my original pics but its all unfinished buildup stuff while I am still working to finish it..so its still changing. Did some work this afternoon: removed the right side rocker and sidescoop for better alignment and getting some mesh in there


The outer dew wipes were severely cracked, dirty and ugly as........finally got them replaced today. This door has looked like this for about a month before taking care...other priorities

GM replacement wipes look way better

I read the dew wipe tips and made some tool to get to the infamous unreachable screws of the dew wipes but most of em were pretty rusted stuck..junk...drilling out the window stops etc and removing the glass to gain access wouldnt solve the problem so I ended up using a chisel to knock the old wipe screws off....it was a pretty bloody fight but I finally won! hehe..It should look better after this.



I wear pants (fiero2m6@sbcglobal.net) MSG #467, 11-09-2005 11:18 PM
      I just looked through your thread for the first time. I must have spent atleast an hour browsing through it! Your car looks great, I like the way you have boldly gone where no man has gone before. Those were some pretty inovative mods. Major plus for you.

[This message has been edited by I wear pants (edited 11-09-2005).]

GTFiero1 (fierogt5speed@aol.com) MSG #468, 11-09-2005 11:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FastIndyFiero:

Damn. I'll take a Fie Ro body kit any day. It would look absolutely stunning with a Pontiac arrowhead right where the front plate is for us in the States.

How about some high-res wallpaper pics



Kohburn MSG #469, 11-10-2005 07:34 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GTFiero1:


eh - not a fan..

i think the ONLY thing i would consider changing with his nose would be to make it match up withthe stock rockers panels a bit more - other than that i'd say its perfect

yellowstone MSG #470, 12-31-2005 10:15 AM
      Hey, Roderick, did you see that "our" hood scoop is now painted and installed? :-)




87SEV6Reborn05 (crashdocs@gmail.com) MSG #471, 01-03-2006 09:59 AM
      WOW, I'm new to fiero but have always longed for one and to have a beautiful rebody kit and you have done an awesome job with your car. You mentioned early on when you were producing your nose about hmmmm maybe selling some?? Have you thought any more about that or did I skip over it in anticipation of seeing more pics of the car....Great work

ToonTownfiero MSG #472, 01-03-2006 01:51 PM
      I finally got a chance to read this thread from start to finish.
Good job.
I truly respect the time/creativity/Effort involved in everything you did to your car.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #473, 01-03-2006 02:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 87SEV6Reborn05:
WOW, I'm new to fiero but have always longed for one and to have a beautiful rebody kit and you have done an awesome job with your car. You mentioned early on when you were producing your nose about hmmmm maybe selling some?? Have you thought any more about that or did I skip over it in anticipation of seeing more pics of the car....Great work

Thank you..I am not sure yet about producing the nose, it needs to be molded from the car because a lot of changes were made during buildup, also it would require enough serious interest to justify putting extra work and money in a good product...right now I want to finish other stuff first.

I might as well do some updates now....it got hit at the driverside 3 weeks after painting, heres what happened. I found out later the frame had a dent, already knew the scoop was cracked everywhere.



almost redone

Got the side repainted 2 weeks ago. 10 minutes after I left the painter I went for gas. Some old guy got in reverse and.... kept....backing up! You must be f****** kidding me! so he hit my frontbumper but it went slow and I didnt found damage.....must be a spell! better news next post


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #474, 01-03-2006 03:10 PM
      after christmas I wanted to do some easily rewarding job to keep me a little busy but not frozen in the garage...this scrapped aluminium profile is a nice mold for a basic shape of a CF doorsill. First mod of 2006


I pulled the first piece in 2005-12-31 and the second in 2006-01-01

I mirrored the weaving on the other piece for a balanced look (details...details..lol) Once the first piece is trimmed its easier to cut the second. I want to put some graphics there because the body is completely shaved from emblems and logo's and this is a nice way to show or hide them. I ditched all my fancy logo designs and may just go with a nice font. I think I will have to take an eps file to a shop that can cut the letters from vinyl.

after that it will need a clearcoat to bring up the shine!


Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #475, 01-03-2006 03:15 PM
      Man you are having a run of rotten luck!!! Maybe you should hire a couple of guys to drive around in front of and in back of you to warn everyone that your car is close.

Albert MSG #476, 01-07-2006 02:27 PM
      Hi Roderick,
Happy new year... even with the damaged car.

I saw the pics and that gave me a sad feeling.

I read that you refurbished your steering rack a few times so my question is can you give me some advice (or help) for mine?
I also still have to make an appointment with you to see the car.. Maybe it's a good idea to wait till it's painted again.
I will be back in Holland the first weekend of feb.

grtz Albert

Custom88 MSG #477, 01-08-2006 12:05 AM
      Are you willing to tell what brand of resin you used? I tried my hand at covering a couple pieces with CF and it came out looking yellowed and horrible from the resin and my lack of experience.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #478, 01-08-2006 11:59 AM
      Albert: hi! Send me an email when your back and having time... I think you ment steering 'column' ? Of course I want to help to rebuild it, you might need to borrow the right steeringwheel puller though. I made one from scratch but its different because my steeringwheel is different. btw the fiero is already back on the road

Custom88: did you use the resin with the pink hardener? That turns a bit yellow when cured. I use resin from a local brand fiberglass supplier and MEK (methyl ethyl ketone ) hardener. The resin is blueish but turns colorless when cured. I first lay the CF in place and then the mixed resin over it and work it to the sides..these are some nice tools to get all the airbubbles out:


BITBYFIEROBUG MSG #479, 01-15-2006 02:13 PM
      What ever happened with the dash build-up thread?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #480, 02-06-2006 09:00 AM
     

One of the most creative minds on the forum.

His skills are not bad either.

Goodall (jq002c3494@blueyonder.co.uk) MSG #481, 02-06-2006 10:58 AM
      i really hope you considder selling parts fie ro, id love one of your rear decklids and rear bumpers, awesome car.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #482, 02-06-2006 12:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom88:

Are you willing to tell what brand of resin you used? I tried my hand at covering a couple pieces with CF and it came out looking yellowed and horrible from the resin and my lack of experience.


Custom88: You want to use a clear Epoxy resin, not the polyester resin sold in most stores.

Bob


motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #483, 02-07-2006 08:41 PM
      Fie Ro; are you planing on making your side scoops avaible for sale, if so I'd be intrested in a set. Joe

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #484, 02-07-2006 08:43 PM
      Props to one of the greats!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #485, 02-08-2006 11:27 AM
      Sorry, not many updates due to winterweather and lack of motivation lately...(need to recharge my battery!)...I have finished the doorsills and got the stickers done but I am not installing the sills untill I have restored the doorhinges and realigned the doors, they have quite some play after 150Kmiles and daily use and i dont want them to scratch these sills

The vinyl is pretty close to the bodycolor and looking pretty subtle with the CF

All in all the body is pretty much done now, I still have some little stuff cooking for the mirrors though In the meantime I am still gathering parts to get the engineswap going and the interior buildup needs some kick in the butt too

 
quote
Originally posted by Goodall:
i really hope you considder selling parts fie ro, id love one of your rear decklids and rear bumpers, awesome car.

Thanks but selling parts (=making new molds) is still low on the list, getting the interior and engineswap done has priority now...

 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:
Fie Ro; are you planing on making your side scoops avaible for sale, if so I'd be intrested in a set. Joe

Thanks but very little chance here..., basically they are slightly modified mecham copies. Shouldnt be that hard to get a set and modify them, also Aus and Dietmar are selling some nice sidescoops already.(Not shure if Dietmar still sells his though, these are nice)
I am not unwilling to sell parts but it needs a lot of additional work and my first goal is just to get the damn Fiero done
With that said, the journey itself has been pretty entertaining and learnful so far. Still having fun! (and its still daily driven!)
Cheers



motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #486, 02-08-2006 08:57 PM
      Thaks for the reply. don't you know that these things are never finished, jk. Good luck with your cool car, and lets hope that people are done running into it. Joe

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #487, 03-25-2006 05:36 PM
     
well...it looks spring is right around the corner, finally...so I do feel the urge to clean up!...
made some mounting clips and found an older trunkcover to hide some mess in the back...carpet is still dirty

the old 2.8 has been very reliable last years but may retire when this puppy comes together and alive

so I was going to look how to mount a safe front battery setup..put a spare battery in the trunk to figure out a setup

got distracted by all the dirt/salt/sanding dust and leaves gathered under the hood over the years...now the body panels look clean its obvious the rest isnt...hmmmm cleanup time...!? Might as well remove and paint some stuff lol




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #488, 03-25-2006 05:44 PM
      I never cared before but it does make a difference :


Heres a sneekpeek of whats cooking:

Termites!
OO7


Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #489, 03-25-2006 07:06 PM
      Those are some really Bad A$$ed termites!!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #490, 03-25-2006 07:55 PM
      I found out when they take sides and mate they will glow....just need to catch em then

FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #491, 03-25-2006 10:02 PM
      oh oh oh, i know what it is, can I guess?


Too bad, I will.

is it turn signals in the mirror housings?



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #492, 03-26-2006 04:53 PM
      ^^^ we have a winner! I just finished soldering and testing:

its hard to take good pix, you hardly see them when off and they have a more orange shine when on.


you can do some weird shapes or logo's this way...but I tried to keep it simple, looks it will match my fiero fine



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #493, 03-26-2006 05:51 PM
      Fie Ro,

You, madcurl, and skit-time,..you guys have like a zillion creative ideas rolled into one fiero !

Most would be happy with just one of your innovations.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-26-2006).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #494, 04-02-2006 03:17 PM
      Thanks Tony, I hope you can fullfill your ideas with your choptop its fun!
Got another termite attack at sunset:

Luckily theyre pretty well organised
the other mirror is a nice jig to fab up another set of ...uh.. anti termite lasers lol

But I need some help keeping the shine of polished mirrors...Ive wetsanded and polished them for many many many hours again and again but they still corode fast. any fingerprint or waterdrop stain will be visible...I tried some clearcoat but it gets dull too (first pic this post)...will wax work or is there an other solution for protection? I didnt want to chrome them as I really like the shine of polished potmetal


Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #495, 04-05-2006 09:18 PM
      Bump!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #496, 04-06-2006 03:47 PM
      I was gonna take a picture "Exoticse" style...lol...but it bounced right back

So this mirror is almost done again...when I started there was some serious surface buildup of paint and such but I cleaned it and finally it is a darn fine mirror

and it will shine at night too:


got it mounted tonight but its not wired yet. I want to route the wires like the windowmotor and mirrormotor to the cabin...just need to find the wires of the turnsignals and a good location to hook them up.

I am still open to ideas to keep the shine of the metal....before mounting this mirror I applied a few layers of wax, no idea if that will hold up.....dont want to polish them every week!

fierodog (brokenaxeblade@gmail.com) MSG #497, 04-06-2006 04:16 PM
      what about clear coating them ?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #498, 04-07-2006 01:49 PM
      I did that before (rattlecan automotive clearcoat). The paint sticked fine but the housings still corroded...

FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #499, 04-07-2006 04:02 PM
      Can they be clear powdercoated?

Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #500, 04-07-2006 04:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:

Can they be clear powdercoated?


Good God what a question........now I have to find out if it's possible!!!!! Audi and Mercedes both have made aluminum skinned cars so something has to work.

[This message has been edited by Fiero1Fan (edited 04-07-2006).]

HC MSG #501, 04-09-2006 06:03 AM
      I hate to be the bad egg, dont get me wrong, i absolutely love every square inch of this car. the bumper is by far, THE BEST custom made bumper... ever! the level of detail is amazing, and i say this by looking at pictures, i could only imagine seeing this car in real life.... but the one and only thing i dont like... the tailights, im sorry, i dont like the clean space between them... it needs something there! A grill would look awesome, or a different ass alltogether, but then again, that is just my honest opinion... and one of 6 billion points of view...

Good job dude, you really made a work of art...

tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #502, 04-09-2006 06:47 AM
      I missed something in the blast thru the 13 pages.....
The mirrors are polished aluminum correct?
you get hazing rings and white pits for corrosion,Probably not the best alloy for un protected use.
Clear spray lacquer has the best adhesion to aluminum. tricky to get right without runs tho. The wax won;t last too long.
one thing you MUST do, coat every surface, inside and out. without a continuous seal, it wll corrode, and moisture will wick under the clear and corrode.
spray lacquer is actually quite durable. I make custom aluminum fishing rod butts for heavy use trolling rods, and the best performance has been the clear lacquer. and these things get banged around, dropped kicked, soaked in salt water. takes a few years of that to start breaking thru. Wax on top of the clear will add to the protection. give it a shot!


3800superfast MSG #503, 04-09-2006 09:15 AM
      Man I really like this thread and want everything in it.....

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #504, 04-10-2006 02:00 PM
      HC: I see what you mean but it may be too much for the rear.....the light assemblies already have a different shape so I went with a look like a solid rear clip with the taillights pressed in...if that makes sense..

joined a big US-car meeting yesterday (these are al imports here!)
Hundreds of V8's

and one Fiero

Got pretty much attention though

Just to show you dont need a V8 to go fast

that is when its mounted, its just a heavy chunk of aluminium right now


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #505, 04-10-2006 02:41 PM
     

I hope the shine of the mirrors stays....btw it is a sort of potmetal ,not aluminium if I recall correctly. Dont recall what potmetal actually is..lol...there must be a thread about the mirror material somewhere.
Anyway now theres just one more thingie I will try to finish (dug up from the forgotten&rejected mods pile)
back to page 7 more than a year ago


I kind of finished the plugs but never made molds and products...was going to do them in CF and thats still the plan


Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #506, 04-10-2006 09:46 PM
      Looks hot, was waiting for some nice overall pics. Beautiful and don't slow down on the updates haha.

Intel MSG #507, 04-11-2006 03:03 AM
      Nice work, you really have an eye for details!

Have you done any work on the SMC panels or you replace everything with fiberglass?
I'm looking for a good product to bond and fill SMC body panels but can't find any in our part of the world, getting tired of ordering it from US all the time.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #508, 04-11-2006 01:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Tusch:
Looks hot, was waiting for some nice overall pics. Beautiful and don't slow down on the updates haha.

I am planning some photoshoot with a good camera and nice environment, still need to arrange that and some nice weather. Will come

 
quote
Originally posted by Intel:
Nice work, you really have an eye for details!

Have you done any work on the SMC panels or you replace everything with fiberglass?
I'm looking for a good product to bond and fill SMC body panels but can't find any in our part of the world, getting tired of ordering it from US all the time.

My experience is that polyester resin works quite well with SMC. Did the mods on stock front/rear decklids and smoothed the rear taillight panel with a stock fastback rearclip. Try to find a local fiberglass store (boat builders may point you to one). I use the blueish polyester resin and MEK hardener. The repair kits sold at parts stores arent any good. hope this helps



revin MSG #509, 04-11-2006 02:16 PM
      Look in jegs or sumit for a polish/ protector for the shiney mirrors.
Did you just sand down the stock ones?....hummm I may do that to my ride. looks real good on the gray paint huh.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #510, 04-11-2006 02:43 PM
      yes I sanded down the stockers, you dont wanna know how much time I wasted on that and the tryouts.

revin MSG #511, 04-11-2006 03:57 PM
      Oh I KNOW
The "stock" paint/primer on these things is a bear to remove!! I did find that bead blasting (not sand) really helps remove it real good.

I had the control arms on mine down to shiney chrome look till I got to the other one and it had some bad pits of surface rust that would not come out. so a nice machine color ( silver/gray ) paint worked just fine!

Intel MSG #512, 04-13-2006 05:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
My experience is that polyester resin works quite well with SMC. Did the mods on stock front/rear decklids and smoothed the rear taillight panel with a stock fastback rearclip. Try to find a local fiberglass store (boat builders may point you to one). I use the blueish polyester resin and MEK hardener. The repair kits sold at parts stores arent any good. hope this helps

Thanks, I have the blueish polyester and using it for fiberglass only, never tried it on SMC though, well that'll be my easter project.
I want something that is almost as strong as real plastic welding done by professionals.
I did find a local source for 3M Duramix SMC Panel Bonding Adhesive (#04050 Rigid Fast Set, black) the bad ting was the price. $100 for a 200ml dual 2 component tube + $180 for the needed 3M gun + $40 for a 12 pack of mixing tubes but it's VERY tough and bonds to almost all automotve plastics.


TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #513, 05-15-2006 01:31 PM
      wheres the update?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #514, 05-17-2006 05:47 AM
      hmm there isnt any...except for some pics
here is the really latest update lol
yesterday

sunday



I am busy with the interior buildup now


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #515, 05-17-2006 07:46 AM
      That is one beautiful interior you're putting together. "Awesome" just doesn't do it justice.

Bob


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #516, 05-20-2006 07:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

I kind of finished the plugs but never made molds and products...was going to do them in CF and thats still the plan

Yeah right!

just popped it from the mold, needs cleanup/trimming/prep and clearcoat....when it fits nice I will do the other side.


PCTECH MSG #517, 05-20-2006 07:53 PM
     




Is that a rebel flag in the picture? I can't believe there are rednecks in Europe. You Must be in the South..



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #518, 05-20-2006 08:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PCTECH:
Is that a rebel flag in the picture? I can't believe there are rednecks in Europe. You Must be in the South..


lol there must be a dutch version of rednecks here...but they wouldnt recognize a rebel flag
Theres a lot of bad american taste around these meetings...lol but many nice rides too..


Voided (voided76@gmail.com) MSG #519, 05-21-2006 02:12 PM
      Wow.

just, Wow.

I could see the car with a whale-tail, only the lip around the top skimmed and sanded down some, and a really suave, molded notch out of the bottom, so to curb the rear-end curl effect of the wind much like the stock spoiler, with the right kind of lip to produce a touch of downforce, and the looks it could bring, I think it'd be completetion.

But it's equally as awesome with the smooth backend, and really, more unique looking without one.

Said by me, big (huge) fan of spoiler-less fieros.


timwdegner MSG #520, 05-21-2006 03:40 PM
      That's a perfect spot for a blazing "Fiero" or "Pontiac" or something badge.

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

HC: I see what you mean but it may be too much for the rear.....the light assemblies already have a different shape so I went with a look like a solid rear clip with the taillights pressed in...if that makes sense..


Looking awesome, at any rate!

[This message has been edited by timwdegner (edited 05-21-2006).]

ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #521, 05-21-2006 05:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PCTECH:

Is that a rebel flag in the picture? I can't believe there are rednecks in Europe. You Must be in the South..


LMAO

oh crap cool I OWN PAGE 14

[This message has been edited by ducattiman (edited 05-21-2006).]

CaliforniaSpeeder9 (midengine4life@gmail.com) MSG #522, 05-30-2006 05:56 AM
      Car looks excellent! Now the two best looking Fieros ive ever seen are both in europe. Doh!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #523, 05-30-2006 07:24 AM
      thanks, maybe soon you will see them both together

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #524, 05-30-2006 12:01 PM
      The "mod" is very, very nice and looks "OEM."



I kind of finished the plugs but never made molds and products...was going to do them in CF and thats still the plan


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #525, 08-06-2006 08:57 PM
     

A bump for a great thread.


wicky (wickyman528e@aol.com) MSG #526, 08-21-2006 12:19 AM
      Very good thread, Bump.

[This message has been edited by wicky (edited 08-21-2006).]

KeithGT (egl93talon@hotmail.com) MSG #527, 09-10-2006 01:06 AM
      Do you own any Super high reolution pics for desktop pics? i NEED one, im rockin a low res one that looks kinda choppy when blown up to fit my desktop. PLEASE

Oh if you do, just email em to me, Egl93Talon@hotmail.com THANKS!!!!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #528, 09-18-2006 04:47 PM
      sorry I am lazy updating this thread.. ...bump

 
quote
Originally posted by KeithGT:
Do you own any Super high reolution pics for desktop pics? i NEED one, im rockin a low res one that looks kinda choppy when blown up to fit my desktop. PLEASE
Oh if you do, just email em to me, Egl93Talon@hotmail.com THANKS!!!!

Thank you, email me the pic(s) you want and the resolution you want and I'll try to find it and make some wallpaper

Here are a few new pics of about a week ago:









ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #529, 09-18-2006 05:18 PM
      you've done an excellent job.



Mattster2k6 (mattster@hilllaw.com) MSG #530, 09-18-2006 05:41 PM
      Man I need that front bumper of yours that looks bad. You need to tell me how to make it.

ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #531, 09-19-2006 11:56 AM
      I agree,

I'd buy that bumper in a heart beat. I dislike the front of the fiero quite a bit


pballsniper77 (pballsniper77@yahoo.com) MSG #532, 09-22-2006 05:39 PM
      wow, AWESOME car!!! congratulations man! if someone would put those taillights as a complete plug-n-play setup, theyd be on my 87 GT in a heartbeat!! That is definitly show material right there! Congratulations again on a beautiful machine

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #533, 11-26-2006 05:31 PM
     

Bump,


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #534, 01-01-2007 09:44 PM
     

Monthly bump for the newbs !

Must read thread.



revin MSG #535, 01-01-2007 10:27 PM
      WARNING::::::

BIG BRAKES NEEDED!!!!! (still )





Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #536, 01-02-2007 03:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by revin:
BIG BRAKES NEEDED!!!!! (still )


Yeah I have to agree...will need em when I am done filling this cradle


I looked into doing the Corvette brakes swap but I am also researching an idea using 4 piston Porsche calipers and 5x100 aftermarket rotors for certain Subaru/VW/Audi models...no clue if it will work


BH2OFiero (valbrown@ns.sympatico.ca) MSG #537, 01-19-2007 10:56 PM
      BUMP! I've been off this site for well over a year now and this was one of the builds I was following very closely before I left. What a nice setup. Keep it coming.



AquaHusky (david.t.cisneros@gmail.com) MSG #538, 01-19-2007 11:04 PM
      Well now! There's a few pics going into the gallery on one of my hard drives! I *LOVE <3* that front end. I like how the front and back are both pretty blunt. I think this is a very good look for the Fiero.. Altho that front looks very BMW.

Edit: Now that I think about it, maybe I see a bit of Maserati in that front end...

[This message has been edited by AquaHusky (edited 01-19-2007).]

Albert MSG #539, 01-21-2007 08:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Yeah I have to agree...will need em when I am done filling this cradle


I looked into doing the Corvette brakes swap but I am also researching an idea using 4 piston Porsche calipers and 5x100 aftermarket rotors for certain Subaru/VW/Audi models...no clue if it will work


Did you think about the rear brakes how to solve the problem with the parking brake? Or is that why you are still researching?
My old cradle looks pretty shiny by the way


Dennis LaGrua (dlagrua@comcast.net) MSG #540, 01-21-2007 09:39 AM
      Boy that's a really modern and sharp looking Fiero! GREAT job!! Most oten I see body mods on these cars that look radical with lines that are sharp and do not blend gracefully. Your creation looks sculpured and smooth looking. European styling. If it were made into a kit, it would probably sell.



Oslo (chris@tlg-auto.com) MSG #541, 01-21-2007 11:07 AM
      I've seen pics of lots of Fieros... I've been to a few shows and seen lots of Fieros, I've seen pictures of Madcurl's cars, FieroGTRWidebody, Yellowstone, you name it, I've seen 'em all. But your Fiero, this car, is simply a work of art!

I've never seen a Fiero that I liked the look of so much. You have done something incredible with this car!!!



Oslo (chris@tlg-auto.com) MSG #542, 01-21-2007 06:12 PM
      Also, this is the only Fiero that I'd be willing to give up my Fiero for an opportunity to purchase... Incredible!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #543, 03-06-2007 12:32 AM
     

Fie Ro,

Any updates ?


Lewis87GT (lgonzales@dcccd.edu) MSG #544, 03-13-2007 10:35 AM
      Yes, yes. Any updates? Bump.

Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #545, 03-13-2007 10:59 AM
      That is a very nice looking car. Good job.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #546, 04-25-2007 11:23 AM
     


bumping it !


mtownfiero (andrewj592@aol.com) MSG #547, 04-25-2007 07:21 PM
      The front end reminds me a lot of the new mitsubishi evo with the way the lights and stuff are. Looks good

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #548, 06-14-2007 02:21 AM
     

Can't let this great thread go bye bye !


Cowabunga_kid MSG #549, 06-14-2007 01:50 PM
      I have to say beautiful car dude, it inspires me to finish my restore project, but then again mine will never look that good

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #550, 06-21-2007 01:59 PM
      Sorry there just wasnt much to update about the 'exterior'...
I stored the Fiero before winter and now I am slowly preparing for the engine swap and suspension rebuild


Some time ago I got one of the first sets of the dual headlight buckets made by Fiero1Fan. Look here These are well made and when finished they'll blend nice with the other details. Testfitting of the blank galvanised buckets:


This week I got the Hella's, did some fitting and painting with a bucket:


My notch for the extra parkinglight connector:


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #551, 06-21-2007 02:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Albert:
Did you think about the rear brakes how to solve the problem with the parking brake? Or is that why you are still researching?
My old cradle looks pretty shiny by the way

These are the Wilwood spot calipers I will use for the parking brake :

These are the Porsche calipers I will try to use:


a mockup with a stock rear bearing-hub, subaru rotor, spacer and wheel to try out and check clearance.

I need a spacer because of :
1. my low offset wheels
2. the thickness of these calipers
Still need to figure out the adapters...but I can confirm these subaru rotors exactly match the Fiero in : -bolt pattern -center hole -rotorface depth.. ( thanks to Daniel/mypride for lending the rotors!)


Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #552, 06-21-2007 03:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

These are the Wilwood spot calipers I will use for the parking brake :

These are the Porsche calipers I will try to use:


a mockup with a stock rear bearing-hub, subaru rotor, spacer and wheel to try out and check clearance.

I need a spacer because of :
1. my low offset wheels
2. the thickness of these calipers
Still need to figure out the adapters...but I can confirm these subaru rotors exactly match the Fiero in : -bolt pattern -center hole -rotorface depth.. ( thanks to Daniel/mypride for lending the rotors!)


...oh my...


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #553, 06-21-2007 04:12 PM
      My front mounted battery setup





I put it as backwards as possible for safety.

spy pic of the tweeked supercharger look in progress


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #554, 06-21-2007 05:29 PM
     

Porsche Calipers !?!!

Holy Sh** !


ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #555, 06-21-2007 07:03 PM
      sweet.by the way how is daniel and you been? i know i have not been in touch for some time..Just way to busy with the family and too much overtime at work and of coarse the new shop and buying more tools

cire36 (duncan863@gmail.com) MSG #556, 06-21-2007 09:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

My front mounted battery setup





I put it as backwards as possible for safety.

spy pic of the tweeked supercharger look in progress


Does the spare still fit?


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #557, 06-22-2007 01:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ducattiman:
sweet.by the way how is daniel and you been? i know i have not been in touch for some time..Just way to busy with the family and too much overtime at work and of coarse the new shop and buying more tools

Hey Derek, Daniel had several issues to get his dohc tuned right but I think its running perfectly now.. Yeah I have been collecting parts but fierowork goes slow nowadays....We need to hook up soon, hope I can rip some of my suspension to make friends with your sandblaster too

 
quote
Originally posted by cire36:
Does the spare still fit?

I dont think so, and I removed the spare tire years ago so I am not using one (only some foam can for small repairs)


BoostedSeries1 MSG #558, 07-02-2007 02:54 AM
      Please.... Any updates on the sweeeeet aazzzz brake set up.
---------------

[This message has been edited by BoostedSeries1 (edited 07-02-2007).]

yellowstone MSG #559, 08-07-2007 03:11 PM
      Hey, how did you do the notch? I forgot and now I want to add the parking light and the connector doesn't fit. I considered shortening the plastic connector housing but your solution looks better. I don't feel like removing both assemblies AGAIN!

BTW, do your headlight doors close with the (long) low beams set so far back in the buckets?

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

My notch for the extra parkinglight connector:




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #560, 08-07-2007 04:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by yellowstone:
Hey, how did you do the notch? I forgot and now I want to add the parking light and the connector doesn't fit. I considered shortening the plastic connector housing but your solution looks better. I don't feel like removing both assemblies AGAIN!
BTW, do your headlight doors close with the (long) low beams set so far back in the buckets?


hey Kolja, I used a grinder and my powerfile for that, and some finishing with a handfile...just using the basic tools I have and make the best of it. The lights are just mounted how I like them but I have not fitted them yet.... looks I have to be careful and change position, how much do the housings stick out with yours ?
btw what kind of connector is used for the parking lights? Still need those.
I got an idea for the unused holes:



yellowstone MSG #561, 08-07-2007 11:55 PM
      You will find that you'll need to move the lights forward 1-2 cm for the headlight doors to close fully.

It's possible to get the plug for the parking lights from Hella but I'll just use small individual crimp-om connectors...

For the unused holes: I just got 2 more of the adjuster screws and have one in each hole. Looks better....

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

hey Kolja, I used a grinder and my powerfile for that, and some finishing with a handfile...just using the basic tools I have and make the best of it. The lights are just mounted how I like them but I have not fitted them yet.... looks I have to be careful and change position, how much do the housings stick out with yours ?
btw what kind of connector is used for the parking lights? Still need those.
I got an idea for the unused holes:




shermdizzle (run4itmarte@yahoo.com) MSG #562, 08-20-2007 12:37 PM
      few questions...what kind of side skirts are those, where can i get them, how much, and how easy/difficult to put on

Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #563, 08-20-2007 03:18 PM
      They are by dietmar and are no longer in production but may be again, check the link someone sent you in your other thread.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #564, 08-21-2007 05:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by shermdizzle:
few questions...what kind of side skirts are those, where can i get them, how much, and how easy/difficult to put on

The sideskirts are universal M3 style skirts cut to length and molded to the original (GT) skirts. You need to do some fiberglassing and fabricate custom endcaps so its not a bolt-on piece. the universal sideskirts shouldnt be hard to find though...pm replied also
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr.PBody:
They are by dietmar and are no longer in production but may be again, check the link someone sent you in your other thread.

No, dietmar's sideskirts (and sidescoops) are different from mine but I like them too !




shermdizzle (run4itmarte@yahoo.com) MSG #565, 08-23-2007 11:17 PM
      how did you remove the ribs from the scoop?

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #566, 08-25-2007 04:08 PM
      Fie RO, could you post a new series of updated pics of your car inside and out?
Your car is one of my favorites and I'd love to see the current state of things.

-M


timgray (timgray.geo@yahoo.com) MSG #567, 08-25-2007 08:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mtownfiero:

The front end reminds me a lot of the new mitsubishi evo with the way the lights and stuff are. Looks good


Noo, that front end is way more classy than any Mitsu. That looks like an Aston Martin nose. From the right angle it looks like a car you'd expect to see in a James bond movie being driven by bond himself.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #568, 08-26-2007 04:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by timgray:
Noo, that front end is way more classy than any Mitsu. That looks like an Aston Martin nose. From the right angle it looks like a car you'd expect to see in a James bond movie being driven by bond himself.


thanks ! Actually thats the comment I get often (if lucky), I rather have it compared to an aston (must be partly the paint choice and mesh setup too) than a wannabe ferrari nose or something..when I started building it I wanted it to look different than a straight copy of something (which is hard because you will compare it anyway)..tried to use a blend of different nice designs to something that would fit my "updated fiero" ideas at that time..

 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:
Fie RO, could you post a new series of updated pics of your car inside and out?
Your car is one of my favorites and I'd love to see the current state of things.
-M


Well, it hasnt been out of the garage since last winter and currently it is in a state of surgery it sits on stands and I removed the V6 and parts of the suspension. Everything that will go back will be cleaned, painted or replaced by something better. I will post some progress and ideas soon

btw hate to say but no progress on the interior



Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #569, 08-29-2007 04:23 PM
      Forgot to ask: With your style hood scoop, the roof glass still fits in the front trunk, correct?

-M


timgray (timgray.geo@yahoo.com) MSG #570, 09-13-2007 08:32 PM
      Gotta love the completely origional fiero changes

Awesome work, let me know if you ever start selling that nose.

[This message has been edited by timgray (edited 09-13-2007).]

DESTOS (discojimbo@hotmail.com) MSG #571, 09-13-2007 11:15 PM
      I hope you decide to get a mold of that nose sometime down the road. I would love to have that.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #572, 09-19-2007 02:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:

Forgot to ask: With your style hood scoop, the roof glass still fits in the front trunk, correct?
-M


correct. I pretty maxed out the available space without needing to cut the front trunk. The ability to store the sunroof is a must

One thing that has become a project of its own are the headlights..
I am doing a dual 90mm Hella setup with Fiero1fan's brackets. I already mounted white leds and custom made guard to these brackets (see bottom of page 14) Looking under the hood at their new location I decided to also cleanup and repaint the motor/brackets and front frame metal. Got the expensive hella connectors and they were dissapointing, not even weatherproof connectors...so I build my own, crimped/soldered/shrinksleeved together with braided wiring



One of the details is a small adjuster to hold and secure the wires...first version was a one piece aluminium strip with a tiewrap around the center (lengthwise), this second version works better




Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #573, 10-10-2007 04:12 AM
      Are you using just the Hella projectors or the Hella HID's for the low beams?



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #574, 10-10-2007 03:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:

Are you using just the Hella projectors or the Hella HID's for the low beams?


For now the Hella projectors, I have looked into HID conversions but first I will try these.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #575, 10-10-2007 05:32 PM
      I find myself redoing almost everything under the front hood since dealing with the lights / front-battery and some other stuff Cleaned, sealed and repainted the exposed sheetmetal and frame, also disassembled, cleaned and painted stuff like the radiator brackets and parts

This is a set of catchcans which I may all use

- enginebay coolant filling point
- enginebay intercooler filling / breather
- front overflow tank replacement

Finished Koni's with Held coilovers for the rear


SandstormGT (davidsndy@earthlink.net) MSG #576, 10-27-2007 09:16 AM
      Wow, I haven't been on here in years, I was following your build along time ago, glad to see you are still at it, I have always respected the amount of work you put into your car, keep it up!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #577, 12-06-2007 02:25 PM
     

Bump for the newbies


rooster1012 (killerpinto@hotmail.com) MSG #578, 12-06-2007 02:56 PM
      I know everyone keeps saying it, and I am new around here, but once again, BEAUTIFUL car. Hats off to all the craftsmanship and eye for what looks great and just plain works.



pavo_roddy MSG #579, 01-13-2008 11:56 PM
      HI all

Great car!! OH, thanx for doing this too.......hehe....


edit: Note to self, read all of the pages first!


War Hammer (oldsouthphoto@yahoo.com) MSG #580, 02-08-2008 04:30 PM
      Your attention to detail is inspiring!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #581, 02-09-2008 01:42 PM
      Thanks !
Here are some details for the trunk.



Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #582, 02-09-2008 04:57 PM
      Fie RO - the master at teaser shots..

BMTFIERO (bmtfiero@outlook.com) MSG #583, 03-18-2008 07:14 PM
      This a "Can't wait" Bump!!!

[This message has been edited by BMTFIERO (edited 03-18-2008).]

Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #584, 03-24-2008 11:41 AM
      Sure is one good looking car.

my-fiero (s.van.dongen@philips.com) MSG #585, 04-23-2008 07:40 AM
      UPDATES??



Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #586, 04-23-2008 11:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Weatherproof Leds:



Boy are you good with fiberglass. Very nice work! Where did yo get these LEDs? Thanks.


Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #587, 04-29-2008 04:21 PM
      Come on Rod....updates??


TRiAD MSG #588, 04-29-2008 05:38 PM
      Holy CRAP! I LOVE seeing new projects on here! I've been gone for quite a while and recently came back, and this is the first I've seen of your car.

I love what you've done with it! Your eye for detail and skill at accomplishing it are amazing!

Here's a thought for your mirrors though... There is a place that makes chrome paint... http://www.alsacorp.com/ http://www.alsacorp.com/pro...rome/mirrachrome.htm

It's a multi-step process and it's rather expensive, but it totally looks like chrome when done properly, but without the maintenance.

Good luck on the rest of your project, and I hope you decide to produce that front bumper!!

~M



Foxy Fiero13 MSG #589, 06-17-2008 02:53 AM
      any way of getting a set of tem gt vents?? they look amazing

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #590, 06-17-2008 09:14 AM
      any updates?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #591, 06-18-2008 04:40 PM
      I have some small updates....

I have several little projects and some are coming to an end but it still takes more time/parts/tools to put the puzzle together....I found my "missing link" tool but there is already 5 months of delay in the delivery ....I really need it for making some essential parts.

So far it is a mix of finished / not finished

Finished items for the rear trunk

Some front restoration parts


Jakezilla3 MSG #592, 06-19-2008 05:32 PM
      You are a visionary Fie Ro. Your vehicle is amazing and I am still flabbergasted that you have done so much work on it and still used it as a daily driver.

I felt the need to finally chime in because no one else has said anything about the GTR that magically appeared between the tail lights, whats the story on that? And we want more pictures



Albert MSG #593, 07-05-2008 04:35 PM
      Bump


Ro show some new pictures!

Are you also going to Muiden this year with the GTR?


Sphynx MSG #594, 10-17-2008 04:08 PM
      Any new pictures? Winter's almost here!

JennsDream (chrishahn87@comcast.net) MSG #595, 11-12-2008 07:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

No, dietmar's sideskirts (and sidescoops) are different from mine but I like them too !





bump cause this is my most favorite fiero ever!

. . .i like it so much that i even saved it as my screen saver on my work computer.

[This message has been edited by JennsDream (edited 11-12-2008).]

Mark A. Klein (maklein12@hotmail.com) MSG #596, 12-31-2008 04:36 PM
      How is the SC 3.8 coming? Actually just a bump for my favorite car.
Think of the profit you could make by suppling us with copies of your modes.... The front bumper should come first.


85duke (benjeminatate@aol.com) MSG #597, 01-25-2009 02:55 AM
      Updates?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #598, 01-31-2009 02:52 PM
      Well, theres a lot of boring underbody work to do : with most of the suspension removed I started to clean up and recoat the underbody, even in spaces you will never see ...with small steps because theres only about 1 feet of space to work under...


Of course first a cradle nut had to spin sometime...


This is the first time I used my $50 arc welder and my limited welding skills on my Fiero...used a piece of scrap metal


On purpose I used a longer bar; if it ever separates from the framerail again it will jam on the framerail sidewalls (welded it to the framerail after this pic)

coverup


I spent a lot of time in cleaning up stock parts and make them look like new.


installing the first front suspension parts




Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #599, 01-31-2009 03:47 PM
      My old front koni's still work well but they will be replaced by new ones


when I took off the front swaybar 2 bolts snapped and they caused a lot of trouble, I burned and snapped a few drillbits on those, then I drilled new holes next to them (the new swaybar mountholes are longer and allow relocation) and tapped them. I am using 10.9 grade bolts now (actually these are 2.8 exhaust manifold bolts I never used) . More stuff added


Last week I made the bracket for the front mounted alternator on the L67. Turned the upper mount spacer on my little machine



Recycling something that was used to mount a tv to a wall



GeorgeGT85 (info@colortubes.nl) MSG #600, 02-04-2009 05:58 PM
      Ik hoop dat ik je Fiero straks eens in het echt kan bewonderen!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #601, 02-22-2009 02:32 PM
      ik ook !

Most of the front suspension is finally done and installed..



There are still a few jobs to do to the front underbody... first this airdam bracket is toast

I just started to make a simple replacement piece in aluminium and will restore the other parts...then I can set up the intercooler hoses (I will have to add a little mod to the airdam for that) and then I want to fabricate a support bracket for the nose to feel save if I ever get to test the top speed ...when its done


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #602, 03-02-2009 03:32 PM
      Started with some scrap aluminium with a good thickness

mapping and drilling new holes

testfitting

This cut is needed to clear the IC radiator tubing

I will use 4 L profiles for strength and pop rivet them


Now theres some extra space to try to setup the tubing for the IC radiator. I decided I want the pump mounted in the front trunk...for easy access I guess. This doesnt make the routing easier..hehe. After some trying and combining hoses and adapters:


This is a Fiero hose, it fits and curves just right!

Sorry about the bad picture quality.....iphone camera and low light dont go well together..
More to come


BabyVet (mybabyvet@yahoo.com) MSG #603, 03-02-2009 10:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Started with some scrap aluminium with a good thickness

mapping and drilling new holes

testfitting

This cut is needed to clear the IC radiator tubing

I will use 4 L profiles for strength and pop rivet them


Now theres some extra space to try to setup the tubing for the IC radiator. I decided I want the pump mounted in the front trunk...for easy access I guess. This doesnt make the routing easier..hehe. After some trying and combining hoses and adapters:


This is a Fiero hose, it fits and curves just right!

Sorry about the bad picture quality.....iphone camera and low light dont go well together..
More to come



well you adopt me please???


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #604, 03-03-2009 03:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BabyVet:
well you adopt me please???

Thats ok but you will get to do the dirty/boring jobs

Some finished, cleaned and painted parts..:




BabyVet (mybabyvet@yahoo.com) MSG #605, 03-03-2009 05:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Thats ok but you will get to do the dirty/boring jobs

Some finished, cleaned and painted parts..:


i'm game for it!!! so when you want my adoption papers??? lol


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #606, 03-05-2009 02:20 PM
      Ok, moving to the front trunk, I will pull everything out to route the IC plumbing first..


I got two bilge type pumps (1 new spare) with the kit, the used one has a cut or broken outlet so I am going to switch some parts..


Now it is set up, the threaded inlet and nut make it possible to mount it through/to the trunk wall, added teflon for sealing and made an adapter to mount the wider radiator hose


2 holes


fitting the pump inlet


I dont know about the reliabilty of these pumps (theyre made by Johnson), but they are easily replaced (click and turn cartridge type), cheap and now easy accessable (just lift the front hood )


Getting more stuff hooked up


JesseM (jesterking33@hotmail.com) MSG #607, 03-11-2009 10:07 PM
      Why haven't i seen this thread before! You really have some talent there pal. I literally read this entire thread today. Brilliant just brilliant!

FieroCustom (borchard.j.m@gmail.com) MSG #608, 03-11-2009 10:15 PM
      Wow, it's been awhile since I tuned into this one. Why isn't this in the construction zone yet? Your car is one of the most built bodies out there. Your fiberglassing skills are very good and inspirational to me to try my body changes. Keep up your awesome build.
~John



Dizzixx (dizzixx@gmail.com) MSG #609, 03-11-2009 10:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroCustom:

Wow, it's been awhile since I tuned into this one. Why isn't this in the construction zone yet? Your car is one of the most built bodies out there. Your fiberglassing skills are very good and inspirational to me to try my body changes. Keep up your awesome build.
~John



I am going to have to agree with this as well as all the other praise posts. Your car is beautiful and your workmanship top notch, you put the rest of us to shame.


Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #610, 03-14-2009 02:59 PM
      Fie RO, when you get a chance, could you update this thread with more pics of your Fiero interior and outside?
I would love to see more recent/current pictures (both wide angle, and details shots)


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #611, 03-14-2009 06:03 PM
      Thanks for the kind words, guess I am pretty devoted to this little obsession.. ...but it also takes a lot of time in learning (from mistakes) and finally getting stuff sorted out and done..
got some stuff done this week though..!
changed my fancy replacement radiator overflow can bracket setup to a custom bend basic bracket to clear the hoodvent and headlights..
painted and installed bracket





FieroCustom (borchard.j.m@gmail.com) MSG #612, 03-15-2009 09:39 PM
      Yay, it's been pushed, no, promoted to The Construction Zone!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #613, 03-16-2009 02:35 PM
      Yo, thanks ! I was already thinking to pm Cliff to put it here..
I'll put up some more progress pics after this post


SAFASTRO MSG #614, 03-16-2009 04:26 PM
      Keep up the great work!!!

I love this thread!!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #615, 03-16-2009 05:18 PM
      Got some tubing ...!
2m of 22mm ID heater hose
2m of 10mm ID fuelhose
4m of 8mm ID fuelhose
3m of 50mm2 battery wire (I have a front mount battery)...I didnt do a math on the needed thickness but it feels like a thick enough wire

Turned a plug for the egr port on the stock rear (L67) exhaust manifold

testfit

I was thinking on using JBweld to stick it there...good or bad idea?

IC tubing guides



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #616, 03-17-2009 01:13 PM
      Last friday I had the front hubs done, removing the studs was a 5 minute job with help of an hydraulic press. Then I dropped them off to have them turned down , they got it done the same afternoon. That was a 45min 65 euro job according to the bill, which I think is reasonable


cleaned, prepped, a basecoat of zinc primer and painted with hi-temp paint


testfit


Time to drop the fueltank for paint and a Walbro fuelpump



I will replace most of the old tubing, especially the metal lines after the filter that have rusted inside and caused injector problems in the past


Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #617, 03-18-2009 01:37 AM
      Quick question: What year is your Fiero?

[This message has been edited by Austrian Import (edited 03-18-2009).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #618, 03-19-2009 08:47 AM
      Hi Max, it is an 1987..

Tony Kania MSG #619, 03-19-2009 11:04 AM
      Not sure if I have ever chimed in here. Great build thread. I know that I enjoyed the read. I also try to keep up on your postings. I bet that a lot of others here are interested in you build. Good luck to you, and keep up the high quality of work that you are doing.



Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #620, 03-23-2009 06:26 AM
      I met Fie Ro and saw this car once about 3 years ago. I am really looking forward to seeing both again this year here at FE III.



Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #621, 03-23-2009 12:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

I met Fie Ro and saw this car once about 3 years ago. I am really looking forward to seeing both again this year here at FE III.



Take lots of pics when you do. I would love to see updated pics of the exterior and the interior.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #622, 03-23-2009 03:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:
Take lots of pics when you do. I would love to see updated pics of the exterior and the interior.


Hmm to bad these are down on the list Sooo many custom jobs everywhere, first goal is to get it back on the road and that alone needs a lot of work already...because I want to do it the right way..
I have a two-tone fueltank though
Spent some time and brakecleaner on the underside to clean it up..the rest was fine..then zinc primer, paint under and underbody coating on the top of the tank

needs more black


Scored some misc parts at the hardware store during my usual snooping around

Some fittings and reducers for the IC routing and a T to hook up the catchcan/filling...just soldered together before picture
Also found these clips which may be useful to route the battery cable




thegreep (shawn.w.shira@gmail.com) MSG #623, 03-26-2009 05:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

when I took off the front swaybar 2 bolts snapped and they caused a lot of trouble, I burned and snapped a few drillbits on those, then I drilled new holes next to them (the new swaybar mountholes are longer and allow relocation) and tapped them. I am using 10.9 grade bolts now (actually these are 2.8 exhaust manifold bolts I never used) . More stuff added



I just had the same thing happen to my sway bar bolts with a similar outcome. Only, I even broke an easyout in the hole. . .


FieroCustom (borchard.j.m@gmail.com) MSG #624, 03-28-2009 02:13 AM
      Fie Ro,
Those clips for the cable look quite useful. What are those clips for? I haven't done my battery relocation yet, but those look almost perfect to keep my cable under control. Thanks for posting all the awesome detail in your build.
Sincerely,
John


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #625, 03-29-2009 07:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by thegreep:
I just had the same thing happen to my sway bar bolts with a similar outcome. Only, I even broke an easyout in the hole. . .


..cool, I broke a drill bit that stuck in there, these jobs are sure a PITA !
One thing I finally learned after this is that spending some cash on some good HSS drill bits makes everything easier....!

 
quote
Originally posted by FieroCustom:
Fie Ro,
Those clips for the cable look quite useful. What are those clips for? I haven't done my battery relocation yet, but those look almost perfect to keep my cable under control. Thanks for posting all the awesome detail in your build.
Sincerely,
John


Hi John, I am not sure what theyre for... I found these in the racks of my local hardware store, there are more sizes (most bigger), I think theyre clips for central heating tubing and domestic wiring...whatever..they looked usefull and happen to fit right..!

Ok more pictures
machined the radiator overflow tank cap to mount a ...eh..mini breather


On the left are the trunkside dogbonemounts

This is how I made them :
starting with 2 upper A-arm poly bushings, cut and machined heavy duty gas pipe

choice of bolts

a bit of V shape grinding and almost ready for the $50 arc welder abuse

halfway welding up and grinding down...and cutting slack

paint






Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #626, 03-29-2009 07:47 PM
      brackets taking shape



I wonder what FreudFiero has to say to this

example of the setup, to finish it needs more work and an installed engine for the final setup, then welding and bolting up and paint..





Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #627, 03-30-2009 04:12 AM
      Fie RO, are you still going to do the Porsche brakes, or are you going to do alternate, i.e.: WCF/Fieroaddiction/Corvette/etc. setups?



revin MSG #628, 03-30-2009 09:39 AM
      nm
I was feeling naughty....

[This message has been edited by revin (edited 03-31-2009).]

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #629, 04-14-2009 02:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:
Fie RO, are you still going to do the Porsche brakes, or are you going to do alternate, i.e.: WCF/Fieroaddiction/Corvette/etc. setups?


I am still going to use the porsche/brembo calipers.....still filtering out the rotor options...
I collected a lot of info and measurements about rotors over time, looking at bolt pattern, center hole, depth etc but there are also the variables depending the setup itself..:

The main issue is the calipers are pretty wide and I have low offset wheels so I will probably need spacers for clearance.
For the front there looks to be more room for "deeper" rotors, on the rear there is less room before hitting the knuckle...may go with vette rotors if no other solution. I will try to arrange an appointment with a rotor supplier to go through the final list of rotor options...or I will go with a custom 2 piece setup for the front..

 
quote
Originally posted by revin:
nm
I was feeling naughty....


LOL, I did read your original post

Anyway, I had some ISP problems last weeks so I have some pictures/updates waiting :
This is the Walbro 255lph high pressure fuelpump kit

Everything bolts right up

I tested the fuelpump a few seconds to make sure it works

Fueltank ready to go back in...I call it The Sneaker


The usual struggle to hook up the hoses to the tank but its back in place..note the intercooler tubing is well away from the tank and doesnt interfere with the tank removal and install


Last drop of the IC tubes to solder the end fittings and finish, added a T for a reservoir/filling point in the enginebay




Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #630, 04-15-2009 03:51 AM
      What offset are your wheels?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #631, 04-15-2009 02:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:
What offset are your wheels?


I recall 37mm..
The brembo's are pretty wide on the outside...this is the smaller caliper


With a 10mm spacer both calipers clear fine...this is a mockup I did almost 2 years ago, with a subaru rotor. These are close to Fiero specs but have a 57mm centerhole (Fiero 56mm)...1mm too much so useless..



Back to the underbody...and getting closer to the enginebay


need to dust off here !

I dropped the cradle to add the engine

still needs a clutch etc but untill I have all these parts I can put it in and already fabricate the dogbones, coolant lines and wiring routing and lengths...

More done



Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #632, 04-16-2009 01:15 PM
      My god your work looks pretty.

Fiero Owner MSG #633, 04-16-2009 08:06 PM
      That motor looks awesome sitting on that cradle. *drool*

unboundmo (unboundmo@aol.com) MSG #634, 04-17-2009 04:25 PM
      NICE!!!!!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #635, 04-20-2009 10:29 PM
      We need updates!!!!

telefragg3d (ken.hoff@me.com) MSG #636, 04-29-2009 07:47 PM
      god i love this thread....can't wait to see how the brake job! take lots of pics! (duh)

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #637, 05-13-2009 03:03 PM
      Working on some enginebay parts...
Got it figured out how to mount the dogbones/strutbar, I will bolt it directly to the driver side strut tower, setup done by welding a nut to the back of the 'endcap' and then welding the cap to the bar



Working on the side panels for the enginebay. I already made the basic shapes last summer but now is the time to make them fit, cut and mod




Passenger side base



ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #638, 05-14-2009 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Last friday I had the front hubs done, removing the studs was a 5 minute job with help of an hydraulic press. Then I dropped them off to have them turned down , they got it done the same afternoon. That was a 45min 65 euro job according to the bill, which I think is reasonable


cleaned, prepped, a basecoat of zinc primer and painted with hi-temp paint


testfit


Time to drop the fueltank for paint and a Walbro fuelpump



I will replace most of the old tubing, especially the metal lines after the filter that have rusted inside and caused injector problems in the past


wow that sucks u should have asked me








Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #639, 05-18-2009 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ducattiman:
wow that sucks u should have asked me


Hey I will remember that ..I wasnt sure you still had that job..I may have a request sometime in the future

I found out my main parts supplier has an inhouse machine shop so I gave them a try on the hubs


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #640, 06-08-2009 02:49 PM
      Made a side pod for the engine fusebox and the 'sparkplugwirerouter'..
Decided to keep it easy, doing it 'yankee style'


Rough product, enough fiberglass to sand smooth. Setting up the layout for the cuts:



Cuts and holes done:


And after some sanding and primer (still needs a little detailing work)


I also got the engine in, this was the only thing that didnt fit but easy to remove..may have to make something custom again I guess :


The engine roughly in place, cradle not bolted down yet :




Check if the left dogbone mount will fit...looks ok




Tony Kania MSG #641, 06-08-2009 09:39 PM
      OMFG! I may have just made a happy mess in my pants. That engine install is extremely sexy! She is looking just great. I have always watched this build, and can't wait to see the end result.


Whoo hoo! Page 17 is mine.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #642, 06-17-2009 07:07 PM
      Thanks !

..for the trunkside of the enginebay I had a rough idea for a fiberglass or carbonfiber cover but I found an aluminium profile that could work too but differently, gave it a try
After a lot of cutting/fitting/cutting/fitting/cutting/fitting/ etc its taking shape


Then I want to mount a few switches that I dont want in the trunk


switches testfitting


The rewarding stuff is to make it shine Wetsanded with 400 and 1000 ...polished a little with a polishingwheel on a drill and then some belgom handpolish...this is the first pass


IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #643, 06-18-2009 12:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


hey Kolja, I used a grinder and my powerfile for that, and some finishing with a handfile...just using the basic tools I have and make the best of it. The lights are just mounted how I like them but I have not fitted them yet.... looks I have to be careful and change position, how much do the housings stick out with yours ?
btw what kind of connector is used for the parking lights? Still need those.
I got an idea for the unused holes:



how much dose a set of headlights like that go for?


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #644, 06-28-2009 05:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IVANNATINKLE:
how much dose a set of headlights like that go for?


These are Fiero1fan's brackets and I ordered the Hella lights seperately (and also did some mods)...I dont have a total figure but it is not really cheap


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #645, 06-28-2009 06:17 PM
      Started to setup and weld the dogbone brackets..cleanup, zincspray and then hi-temp paint





I still think the aluminium bar needs a logo....time to take out an old idea..


IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #646, 06-29-2009 12:53 AM
      any ideas on where to get the hella lights ?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #647, 07-04-2009 07:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IVANNATINKLE:
any ideas on where to get the hella lights ?

try google: "hella projector 90mm"


IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #648, 07-04-2009 09:46 PM
      pm'd

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #649, 07-06-2009 02:02 PM
      Fie RO, are you going to make an engine bay window for this car when it is done? I think it would really show it off. (just make sure to add some curvature to the "glass" (acrylic) )


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #650, 07-07-2009 07:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Austrian Import:
Fie RO, are you going to make an engine bay window for this car when it is done? I think it would really show it off. (just make sure to add some curvature to the "glass" (acrylic) )


It crossed my mind but its already been done nicely before, starting with Skitime's..
..now when heatresistant flexible oled displays (transparent when turned off) will become available and affordable I may think again

Seriously I am going for a good look with the decklid up...
the challenge (+time) is to make everything fit and work right...getting all the pieces of puzzle lined up and get the final picture...pff..lol

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
I still think the aluminium bar needs a logo...
.time to take out an old idea..


Yeah
When I got the L67 I was able to get a pretty good mold of the engine cover logo and made a copy in clear and CF....
they have been gathering dust...



however I tried several setups ( paint and cutouts ), I never found a way to justify to cover the blower

anyway, a new version would now need:
- smooth main surface ( instead of small texture)
- red casted letters ( better than paint)

Start, hard to fill red tinted resin without spilling and cleanup

clear resin and CF

rough from the mold


my-fiero (s.van.dongen@philips.com) MSG #651, 07-08-2009 03:47 AM
      Verry Nice job!!!!!

I like that.!



carbon MSG #652, 07-08-2009 01:58 PM
     

[This message has been edited by carbon (edited 07-08-2009).]

IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #653, 07-08-2009 04:44 PM
      bump looks sweet.... did you ever get my pm?

whodeanie (dean@glassworksga.com) MSG #654, 07-08-2009 06:10 PM
      it's good to see you are still working on the car. every time you post something it is better than the last one.
nice job.


Sharkman MSG #655, 07-08-2009 08:02 PM
      Wow, SWEET!!!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #656, 07-21-2009 06:54 PM
      Thanks

all that tinkering slows down total progress but hey ; " my Fiero is my sketchbook "



Still fighting how to use these...it always gets complicated

So went to testfit the dogbones


At the top right of the pic below I turned a teflon spacer to mount the bar to the trunk for extra support..I consider a second one close to the left side mount..as most of this setup is selfmade and I cant trust everything I make...





The right dogbone setup first needs some clearance work on the aluminium (ex) heater passage next to the head..
The block still needs to be lowered a little at the right side to sit perfectly level, by slotting the enginemount some more..but since the dogbones are adjustable that shouldnt be a problem for the final setup..



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #657, 07-22-2009 06:05 PM
      I want to use some mesh and led backlight to fill the space between the 2 bars...after some thinking I came up with a simple small aluminium U profile; mounted to the upper bar, mesh mounted to the profile and leds in the profile...pix will explain better

using the drilled profile as a soldering jig, leds are upside down

shrinkwrap




Most leds are around 2V and to keep it simple I usually put 6 or 7 leds in series to run on 12V so no resistors or other scary stuff is needed...heres a mockup of the effect of the mounted leds on the mesh..



The effect is pretty cool, changing in size when you move angle

looks a little like a tube amplifier I guess

But these red leds are not strong enough..I like subtle but it needs to be pretty dark to see them...will have to get some brighter leds ! The blue switch leds blow them away..



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #658, 07-23-2009 01:37 PM
      I want to make everything to work together, put a mockup together (again ) The 3800 logo needs to line up with the lcd (and needs tweaking)...just to get you the idea where I am heading at..






Sharkman MSG #659, 07-23-2009 02:55 PM
      Looking good. Keep us updated
Will the LCD flip up when you go on shows?



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #660, 07-23-2009 03:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:
Will the LCD flip up when you go on shows?


No, but it is angled upwards a little already with this setup...maybe hard to see on these pix..but more would be too obvious.. and the screen is pretty good to see at angles so I just hope it works well enough this way..



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #661, 07-23-2009 04:18 PM
      Btw I fitted remote on/off wiring for the tft ..it will be the pushbutton next to the switches.


I got worried if I would have to solder to a tiny part....

but tp3 and tp4 cant be missed, easy...!

Checking

More checking while putting everything back in place


Sharkman MSG #662, 07-23-2009 07:18 PM
      Realy nice, I got a LCD photo screen for mine. Useful to show the build.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #663, 07-23-2009 07:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sharkman:

Realy nice, I got a LCD photo screen for mine. Useful to show the build.



Exactly, at one time I considered dvd video and speakers in the trunk but that would be too much.., its about the car..first..then a simple slideshow tells all about it for those who really want to know about it..


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #664, 07-23-2009 10:01 PM
      Pretty nice detail work!...Looks like you're putting together a show car.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #665, 07-24-2009 08:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:

Pretty nice detail work!...Looks like you're putting together a show car.


Looks like he's putting together a car for the Riddler Award.

Bob



batousai666 MSG #666, 09-11-2009 08:23 AM
      BUMP for progress.

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #667, 09-11-2009 08:55 AM
      Bling, bling!

Carcenomy MSG #668, 09-12-2009 04:00 AM
      She's looking the beast Fie Ro! Forgive me for skim reading, what rotors were you looking to use?

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #669, 10-22-2009 01:39 AM
      *bump* for more pictures. (even if it's of the old stuff, but updated pictures)

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #670, 11-26-2009 07:14 AM
      We Need Updates On This Build!

Sofa King MSG #671, 12-01-2009 09:10 AM
     
 
quote
I was able to get a pretty good mold of the engine cover logo and made a copy in clear and CF....
they have been gathering dust...


Hey Fie Ro,

Great build! BUT!!!!! You're going to have to explain exactly how you took that mold! AMAZING!

G (SK)

[This message has been edited by Sofa King (edited 12-01-2009).]

IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #672, 12-11-2009 01:31 PM
      bump great build

updateS?


ToonTownfiero MSG #673, 12-24-2009 02:02 AM
      Great Thread

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #674, 12-30-2009 04:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sofa King:


Hey Fie Ro,

Great build! BUT!!!!! You're going to have to explain exactly how you took that mold! AMAZING!

G (SK)



Jel Coat / Fiberglass the original part. Then spray your mold release, resin / cf and throw it against a wall.



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #675, 01-02-2010 11:32 AM
      Sorry, I havent put much time into the project last months, busy at work, a freezing garage and some Fiero withdrawel that happends sometimes. Allthough I am slowly getting back to picking up projects...I want to get it back on the road this year (like I said last year )

GT86FASTBACK (dnd4spd82@verizon.net) MSG #676, 01-20-2010 04:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Front has some minor changes now and the Crystal lights came in today! They seemed soooo big to me but when I placed them on the bumper I thought/think I can make them fit in there


Hey! What is this bumper originally from?


BMTFIERO (bmtfiero@outlook.com) MSG #677, 06-03-2010 11:03 AM
      BUMP

Copper85GT (tmigatz@foxvalley.net) MSG #678, 06-03-2010 05:10 PM
      .

HausFiero MSG #679, 06-04-2010 08:17 PM
      What year m3 do the side skirts come off of and how do you make them fit?

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #680, 06-05-2010 01:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GT86FASTBACK:
Hey! What is this bumper originally from?


I think it was a 1996 accord..civics had them too. At the time the best base I could find. Top is part of a Fiero coupe nose, the rest is custom.
Although its a short nose on the Fiero the wheel arches of the buck were moved 2" backwards.

 
quote
Originally posted by HausFiero:
What year m3 do the side skirts come off of and how do you make them fit?


These were universal fiberglass copies..cut to length. I bonded them to the stock rockers and made fiberglass endcaps and a CF sillplate



85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #681, 06-06-2010 11:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
These were universal fiberglass copies..cut to length. I bonded them to the stock rockers and made fiberglass endcaps and a CF sillplate


Fie Ro

Can you please tell me how did you bond the fiberglass to the stock rockers ?
Did you use fiberglass and epoxy ?
Do you have any pictures in process of when you did it ?
Thanks for any help


PS the lower part of the front bumper in your car is from a 95 Honda Civic.



HI-TECH (centralvalley606@yahoo.com) MSG #682, 06-07-2010 05:32 AM
      hey fie ro... you got any more pics of when you where making your bumper?

HausFiero MSG #683, 06-07-2010 12:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by HI-TECH:

hey fie ro... you got any more pics of when you where making your bumper?


Yes, please do!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #684, 06-07-2010 02:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Fie Ro

Can you please tell me how did you bond the fiberglass to the stock rockers ?
Did you use fiberglass and epoxy ?
Do you have any pictures in process of when you did it ?
Thanks for any help

PS the lower part of the front bumper in your car is from a 95 Honda Civic.


I recall I cut some of the lower part of the stock rocker, sanded the sides real rough and sandwiched a layer of fiberglass cloth with polyester resin between the stocker and m3 skirt...
Although they hold up great I would do a one-piece by nowadays standards. I looked for the build pictures but 2003 and older are somewhere else on my hd drives..


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #685, 06-07-2010 02:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by HI-TECH:
hey fie ro... you got any more pics of when you where making your bumper?





exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #686, 09-16-2010 12:13 PM
     
Fie ro,

What is the latest with this project ??


fierofan25 (elyboy04@netzero.com) MSG #687, 11-16-2010 04:47 PM
      Did he finish this car?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #688, 01-20-2011 10:02 AM
      Bump

my pride (dogge@live.nl) MSG #689, 05-12-2011 04:18 PM
      Yo Roderick how are u doing man long time no see hahahahahhaa
how is your ride .
I think u are almost done.

me i was done with the engine but i blow the damm thing up ,i think it did not like me
so im going to burn it

so im done building my garage and now i'm going to start a new project and do u know what i'm going to do
swap a new engine in the damm car i got a adress that got the same engine u got L67 v6 3800 supercharged type 2
and it is a new one

but i still do not know what it will be,there are so many engine's out there what u think wat i need to do

burn the engine
Or the car and start something else

best regards a fiero caveman that was sleeping over 2 years
Daniel


my-fiero (s.van.dongen@philips.com) MSG #690, 05-24-2011 03:54 AM
      Hello Daniel,
Long time no see or heard of you.

Stil working on the Fiero?
there is a Fiero meeting on 29-5-2011
who knows I see you there?

Stan



SMTHGT MSG #691, 06-26-2011 07:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Fie ro,

What is the latest with this project ??


Bump



SMTHGT MSG #692, 07-04-2011 07:29 AM
      Omg..
I forgot about these pics

.


... I was rereading this again ...lol one of my all-time favorites
 
quote
Originally posted by Smoooooth GT:

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quote
</FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD BGCOLOR="#FFFFDF"><font size="1" face="Verdana">Originally posted by Fie Ro:

But deadlines are skipped till further notice!
Oh no, not like the Smooth GT!

</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHA!!
Here's a pic that you wanted!!

3000GT side mirror's!!



[This message has been edited by Smoooooth GT (edited 10-21-2003).]




my pride (dogge@live.nl) MSG #693, 04-14-2012 07:54 AM
      Fie ro how is your swap going

stop working on your new house and give us an update


my pride (dogge@live.nl) MSG #694, 04-14-2012 07:56 AM
      ps call me when u got time



IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #695, 11-04-2012 08:11 PM
      bumpdates?

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #696, 12-02-2013 05:52 PM
      ttt

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #697, 10-30-2015 03:44 PM
      THREAD REVIVAL ALERT !!

So.
After buying my 'new' house over 5 years ago it took 5 years so far to redo almost all of it, including the garage, when the garage got done it became "the place to store stuff you dont want elsewhere", then my girlfriend moved in with her stuff "you dont want elsewhere" but finally there's room and the Fiero was transported today to my 'drive-in' house. The lower floor is my mancave, my garage and my workshop. That's what I wanted in the first place

Transport, I removed the front and rear bumpers to make it easier:




Man I am happy it is finally here ! In a heated and clean garage. Overhead lighting, water and many 220V outlets. Spent most of the afternoon to start cleaning off the dust and debris of all the years sitting in storage. It is not that bad but it also has some small scratches on the paint here and there, I tried some rubbing compound to test and most of it can be fixed. It already looks 10 times better.


From now on I will try to update more frequently , also updates on some stuff I did do in the meantime...



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #698, 10-30-2015 04:28 PM
      Yessssssssss !! Been a long time, and your car and creative work have been missed ! Welcome back and looking forward to more of your custom work.

topcat (tconey01@att.net) MSG #699, 10-30-2015 05:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Yessssssssss !! Been a long time, and your car and creative work have been missed ! Welcome back and looking forward to more of your custom work.


Ditto!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #700, 10-30-2015 09:52 PM
      Thanks Tony and Topcat ! I have been busy testfitting some parts and lowering the rear coilovers by 2 inches tonight, it is almost 4:00 am now here, I need to creep into the bedroom before miss Fie Ro wakes up asking what the hell I am doing

ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #701, 02-04-2016 08:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
miss Fie Ro


hints as to the true reason this project stopped lol


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #702, 02-06-2016 07:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ignorant prodigy:

hints as to the true reason this project stopped lol


Lol, not really a problem (peaking behind the door ). She knew about my hobby but the house took a lot of energy and work last years but I have always been doing some Fiero stuff now and then. I just need to start posting again about the little progress I make here and there, after all this has become a 10 year+ project and there is no reason to rush now

When I got my Fiero here after more than 5 years of storage I got it cleaned up and looked over everything I did and what needs to be done. I am happy to find the stuff I cleaned/restored/painted is still in a great shape, still there is a lot of work to do, the first goal now is to make it technically running. Engine, cooling, brakes, battery, cluster...all of it will be custom but I want it running at a certain point. Working on all of that, most is research and fabbing now, again. I do have some progress on the interior too but I have come to the decision this is a car that needs to be able to move and not something to look at and keep dreaming




Things I am working on now:
- wiring, freaking wiring of all this, wiring of the L67 to the ecm, tuning, getting rid of the old ecm wiring, tablet OBD2 dash taking all the data of the ecm OBD bus.
- intake, cooling lines etc. With the engine still testfitted I want to set up everything to fit before final install.
- setting up Intercooler tubing
- setting up custom fusebox, wiring etc etc
- more -

Things I still have to post:
- redesigned front mount battery setup
- brake vacuum via EGR port
- front bumper 'correction' piece
- doorpanels progress
- trunkpanels progress
- more -

I am not done.


IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #703, 02-09-2016 03:32 PM
      nice. thank you for updating!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #704, 02-14-2016 07:55 PM
      I just finished a video, all shot this week and added some pictures of recent progress...
https://youtu.be/YFXF5XGuoJM


Danyel MSG #705, 02-14-2016 08:29 PM
      just one word ............... WOW !!!!!!!



RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #706, 02-14-2016 08:31 PM
      Great looking video. Looking forward to the updates.

Bob


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #707, 02-18-2016 03:53 PM
      I have been busy to trace all the wiring for this engine swap. I am not a wiring guy but all of this needs to work together. To me it is important to know what goes where and what it does and I have a clou if it doesnt work. I have labeled all the ecm side wires, the engine side connectors and wires ( I think I am still missing a cam and crankshaft and one knocksensor connector)

I am looking for a setup with this L67 engine custom wired to its ecm, deleting the Fiero ecm and cables, deleting wiring to the fiero gauges, taking info from the L67 OBD2 port to run gauges on a tablet replacing the cluster, and analog lights for turn,beams etc.

I have been thinking a lot of ways to do this effective/efficient and they have changed over the years, and this is where I am now. Tonight I started to remove the center console, pullled out the original ecm wiring, I welcome any good ideas what to do and why..




ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #708, 02-19-2016 06:48 PM
      I envy your professionalism.

as far as wiring goes, how familiar are you with the L67? This place is obviously an amazing resource.
At one point I think I had wiring diagrams for 98-00 and 02 layouts.

My advice is just to consume as much as you can, and get a good tuner. My understanding of how it works grew leaps and bounds when I actually start taking readings and start tweaking things.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #709, 02-21-2016 01:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ignorant prodigy:

I envy your professionalism.

as far as wiring goes, how familiar are you with the L67? This place is obviously an amazing resource.
At one point I think I had wiring diagrams for 98-00 and 02 layouts.

My advice is just to consume as much as you can, and get a good tuner. My understanding of how it works grew leaps and bounds when I actually start taking readings and start tweaking things.


Thanks ! But if I were a pro it wouldn't take 10+ years
The fact I am doing so many things to this car means that 10% of error already makes it a pile of non running junk. I really try to do things right the first or second time. Most of it is second time

Thanks for the advice and you are right. For this swap I have been reading and collecting info for about 15 years, I guess I have all the needed diagrams and more.
I bought a DHP Powrtuner from Charles at DHP about 10 years ago, since I had to wait 2 years for delivery he upgraded it to the unit with 3 analog inputs, may come in handy to log the wideband O2 sensor I plan to get. I noticed the DHP forum and support are gone now but I found a torrent last night that contains the most recent software, additional scanners and bins. I will dive into the whole scanning and tuning proces when I have finished up all the wiring. I know now where all the L67 stuff goes but the next step is to put it together and what to keep of the Fiero wiring.

In the meantime I think it might be a good idea to start looking for a PT basemap that is close enough to my setup. It seems every L67 engine responds a bit different to mods and setup, even more when in a Fiero. So I understand there will be a lot of scanning and tuning required but it would be nice to have a startingpoint...

For a PT basemap these are the specs of my engine / setup and some ?? :

Modded L67 Fiero 5 speed
Cluster gauges via OBD2

282 Getrag manual (all automatic transmission codes deleted)

4" airintake
N* MAF
N* throttlebody (newer style)

Gen 3 Supercharger:
inlet machined to match N* intake 77mm
Outlet machined for ZZP S2 intercooler
MPS pully 3.0 (+ 2.8 and 2.6)

ZZP S2 full stack intercooler

Lower intake:
machined to match IC outlet
ports gasket matched to heads

Heads: stock but gasket matched intake and exhaust
Injectors: 36lbs (stock) may need to step up to 42,5 with these mods ?
(PRJ fuelrails, stock FP regulator, Walbro 255lph fuelpump)
Stock cam
(Arp headbolts and rocker studs)

Front exhaust manifold: ZZP powerlog
Rear exhaust manifold: stock
Exhaust, will be: 3" to cat, muffler 2x 2,25"
delete second O2 sensor
delete EGR
delete Evap
delete boost solenoid
delete more sh!t

Fiero fan control via the L67 ecm

Getrag 5 speed VSS to L67ecm. Need correct speed vss to ecm>OBD2>cluster (NOT the original Fiero cluster! I know about Ryans conversion interface but I will take OBD2 from the ecm)
option 1: custom converter fieropulses (rate/dig) to L67ecm (different rate/ana)
option 2: forget OBD2>cluster part, use GPS of tablet for actual speed


I may edit this if something comes up I didn't think about... which is most likely the case



ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #710, 02-21-2016 05:02 PM
      maybe I should say I envy your perfectionism then lol

 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
Injectors: 36lbs (stock) may need to step up to 42,5 with these mods ?


I think you can get away with stock injectors up to a 3.0" pulley and no cam/rockers
Knock may be your limiting factor. W/o scanning it's impossible to speculate but I had a very similar setup at one point and stock injectors were just fine.

Swapping injectors is very easy, so IMO spare the expense until you scan it and know for sure.
Of course.. I'm kind of cheap so it's easy for me to say that.

Here's a quote from Ryan at sinister performance about knowing when you need bigger injectors.

 
quote
To tell that, you need to know Injector Pulse Widths at WOT and A/F ratio. As long as your IPW's aren't exceeding 21ms and your O2 voltage is above 0.915v at WOT (or 12:1~12.5:1 a/f ratio or richer); the injectors you have in your engine now should be meeting your needs.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #711, 03-10-2016 03:34 PM
      I pulled out the instrument cluster and did a test setup with a cheap 10" tablet we have here at home to get an indication what needs to be done to make something like this to work :


A simple check to be sure if the screen is visuable in this location from my eyesight:

My idea is to cut off the outer switch panels and move them inside the housing for a more compact and sleeker look. Also because a 10" screen does not need the width of the original instrumentpanel.



I wondered why the left and right switchpanels sizes were off....it is because the cluster is not rectangle at all ! The instrument panel seems to flow with the main dash, the top a bit higher towards the middle of the interior, the cluster seems symmetrical but it is not! In fact non of the instrument cluster parts are symmetrical. You would not see that unless you take a ruler to check.



Making the cut for a tablet for recess, there is about 1 3/4 inch before hitting the steering column. I need that space for the tablet not sticking out too high at the top.




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #712, 03-10-2016 03:42 PM
      That is going to be wicked !

Quad GT (quadgti@gmail.com ) MSG #713, 03-10-2016 09:51 PM
      You going after something like this?

http://jalopnik.com/the-201...e-dash-an-1677813819


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #714, 03-12-2016 01:09 AM
      It's a cool idea but I feel like there is a difference between a generic tablet and the screens that are meant for use as instrument panels in cars... the brightness of a generic tablet will likely affect your night vision while driving in the dark...

Danyel MSG #715, 03-12-2016 11:27 AM
      I had an iPad in my Widow .. was useless on a sunny day .... at night had to dim it wayyyy down which made it hard to read ... but you do have on heck of a nice look in a showroom.... luv the car !!

[This message has been edited by Danyel (edited 03-12-2016).]

ignorant prodigy (ignorantprodigy@aol.com) MSG #716, 03-15-2016 07:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
did a test setup with a cheap 10" tablet we have here at home to get an indication what needs to be done


I'm interested in seeing what you're thinking of actually using. Although.. i fear it may add so much time to your build I'll pass away before I get to see it done lol


Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #717, 03-15-2016 07:48 PM
      The glass from the iPad may cause some glare issues. You can purchase the screens (with controllers) relatively cheaply on eBay. That can be hooked up to a small profile computer (mini ITX / pico ITX, etc). Might be better using a non-glare plastic cover instead of the glass.

Are you writing your own dash software?

I'm working on a similar thing for my Aventador build. ( Video of my display running on a laptop )



Patrick (mnofony@yahoo.com) MSG #718, 03-31-2016 03:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

I just finished a video, all shot this week and added some pictures of recent progress...




Great car. Nicely made video... very European.

What did you use to acquire those silky-smooth pans?

[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 03-31-2016).]