SINISTER GT: The Official Build Thread
Topic started by: ITALGT, Date: 09-02-2006 11:20 AM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000066.html


ITALGT MSG #1, 09-02-2006 11:20 AM
     
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    Page 1: Introduction, interior work begins, tail light lens restoration, powder coating wheels
    Page 2: Interior transformation continues, 2007 Daytona car show
    Page 3: Custom air intake, wiper cowl reconditioned, accident rebuild
    Page 4: Interior transformation continues, 2008 Daytona car show, blown transmission
    Page 5: Project gets new home, cradle dolly built, engine and cradle is dropped
    Page 6: Weight reduction begins, 180 degree header installation begins
    Page 7: 180 degree header installation continues, rear strut tower brace is fabricated, TPI intake is ditched

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ITALGT MSG #2, 09-02-2006 11:22 AM
     
Underneath this black V8 Fiero GT's skin is actually a base 2.5L coupe that was found collecting dust in a grassy field somewhere near Norman, Oklahoma. The previous owner, located in Ohio, got his hands on the car and began to build his own SBC V8 Fiero GT. He started by combining '87 GT body panels to the base coupe's rust-free frame. The suspension was completely rebuilt with polyurethane bushings and was lowered using standard Eibach lowering springs. The brakes were upgraded using Archie's 11.25" brake rotor conversion. The wheels and tires were also upgraded to 17x7.5" Enkei RS5's with 215/45R-17's tires on the front and 235/45R-17's on the rear. The battery was moved to the front using Archie's relocation kit, and several Rodney Dickman accessories were also added throughout the car.

Here are a few pictures of the car before I purchased it:











In January of 2003, the Fiero got it's first V8 transplant; a mostly stock mid-80's Chevy 305 TPI V8, put in by Archie himself. Later, the 305 was swapped out with a rebuilt 350 V8 with a four-bolt main block, rebuilt rotating assembly, cast-iron Vortec "fast-burn" cylinder heads, Scoggin-Dickey lower intake, a mild CC "High Energy" 262H hydraulic flat-tappet cam, 24lb. Accel fuel injectors, and a custom-burned Street & Performance ECM chip. The throttle body and upper intake was left stock, with the exception of a small cone K&N air filter. A new exhaust system was made utilizing Sanderson shorty headers, stock cat converters and glasspack mufflers:



As for the interior, the stock steering wheel was tossed for a 350mm MOMO Millennium steering wheel. A MOMO Anatomic leather shifter knob was mounted on a Rodney Dickman short shifter made for aftermarket shift knobs. Sound deadener and new black carpet was also installed on the floorboards and firewall. Black vinyl was used to cover the headliner and firewall panels. A Viper alarm was also installed, along with a few stereo goodies. The rest of the interior was basically left disassembled/untouched when I finally got my hands on it:



In the early part of 2006, the previous owner lost interest in this project and offered it for sale here on the Pennock's mall. Apparently, the new-at the-time Nissan 350Z was more enticing to him than a properly done V8 Fiero needing only a little work to finish. When I arrived to buy the car, a new black 350Z was parked in his garage.

His loss. My gain.

On May 7th, 2006... my 30th birthday... I grabbed a flight from sunny Florida all the way to Ohio to purchase the car... and then proceeded to drive it all the way back home. After two full days of driving, many miles traveled with a malfunctioning clutch slave-cylinder, I was back in Florida with my first SBC V8 Fiero.

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ITALGT MSG #3, 09-02-2006 11:23 AM
     
The first thing I did to the Fiero after getting it home from Ohio was fix the clutch slave cylinder that went bad. After that, it was time for its first polish/wax/detailing. Although the paint was fairly new, it had lot's of flaws (orange-peel, over-spray, debris in the clear coat, scratches, etc).

Here are the very first pictures that I took of the Fiero after spending an afternoon buffing and waxing the paint. At this point, the Fiero was still exactly how I bought it, other than the paint being really shiny!















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ITALGT MSG #4, 09-02-2006 11:24 AM
     
____________________________________EXTERIOR BUILD______________________________________

So far, the body has had very few modifications. About the only thing different than stock was the aftermarket quarter windows with scoops and the tinted tail lights.



Sadly, the Fiero was shiny for only so long. In January of 2008, a wooden bridge covered in early morning Florida frost sent the car spinning uncontrollably into several sign posts (see page 3 of this build thread for the nitty-gritty details):







After all was said and done, I took apart the Fiero and put it back together thanks to lot's of help from the Central Florida Fiero Club and some newly acquired fiber-glassing skills... what a great group of Fiero guys and gals we have down here in sunny Florida! Here is what it looked like after busting my a$$ getting it back together and on the road (temporarily sporting some dark grey primer):



Cruising with the Fiero gang during the 2008 Daytona car show:



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ITALGT MSG #5, 09-02-2006 11:25 AM
     
______________________________________INTERIOR BUILD____________________________________

When I first got my hands on this GT, the interior upgrading was started but no where near finished. I bought the car with the MOMO steering wheel and shifter already installed, as well as new black carpet and new headliner and firewall vinyl. Otherwise, here's what I started with; your basic stock Fiero interior:



During the first phase of the interior build, I am utilizing the original design of the Fiero's interior to my advantage. The "boxy" appearance of the stock Fiero interior already gives the purposeful and visceral "jet-fighter" feel that I'm looking for. I want the inside of this car looking more like a cockpit than an interior. So far it's been given the "blacked out" treatment by painting the interior panels and face-plates/gauge surrounds satin black. I also added new floor mats, the map-pockets on the doors have been removed, and some cheap aluminum pedal covers were installed:



...the custom shifter surround and boot I made:



1/2" solid aluminum rod I am fabricating for the doors and dash... still a work in progress:



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ITALGT MSG #6, 09-02-2006 11:26 AM
     
______________________________________ENGINE & EXHAUST_______________________________________




    *Rebuilt 350 V8, four-bolt main block, stock bottom end, Tuned Port Injection
    *Getrag 5-speed manual (upgrading to a late model Getrag)
    *Vortec cast-iron heads, Scoggin-Dickey lower intake plenum
    *Accel 24lb. high-flow injectors
    *Competition Cams "High Energy" 262H hydraulic flat tappet cam
    *AEM dry-flow air filter, custom "cold air" intake, Holley air-foil
    *Proform 50,000 volt ignition coil, MSD 8.5mm plug wires, Accel hi-output ignition module
    *Sanderson headers... cracked and busted, time for some 180's
    *Street and Performance custom burned computer chip
    *Mobil 1 Synthetic oil, Lucas oil stabilizer

I made the "cold air" intake using 4" rubber hose, aluminum tubing, firewall mount plate, Holley air-foil and a AEM synthetic "dry flow" air filter:



The transmission that was originally used was an old Getrag 5-speed. It held together for me for a couple of years before it finally blew up at the drag strip in April of 2008. Here it is as it sits today, January 30th, 2013:



Now that the engine cradle has been dropped for a transmission swap, I will begin adding a few goodies to wake up the 350 to extend the upper RPM range and increase overall performance with the low-geared Getrag 5-Speed. I will be ditching the stock TPI and SD Vortec base intake with a carburetor and appropriate cam. I will also be getting rid of the old mechanical water pump and install an electric one.

New Schoenfeld 180 headers... see page 6 for installation details:



Main strut tower brace in place with welds cleaned up:



More to come...

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ITALGT MSG #7, 09-02-2006 11:28 AM
     
__________________________________BRAKES/SUSPENSION_________________________________

The suspension was completely rebuilt using polyurethane bushings and was lowered using Eibach springs. The brakes were upgraded using Archie's 11.25" brake conversion kit along with braided stainless steel brake lines. The wheels and tires were upgraded to 17"x7.5" Enkei RS5's with 215/45R-17's on the front and 235/45R-17's on the rear:



One of the first things I did for this build was powder coat the centers of the wheels gloss black. The calipers, rotors and center caps were also painted black. I finished the wheels off with chrome "spline-drive" lug nuts for a raw, clean look:



In the future the wheels will be upgraded and possibly the brakes as well. Here's a quick photoshop of the Fiero with a 19"/17" wheel combo:


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ITALGT MSG #8, 09-05-2006 12:27 AM
     
____________________________________THE BUILD BEGINS!____________________________________

The actual build begins with the clutch master and slave cylinder being replaced as they failed before making it home from Ohio. Because it's been discussed a thousand times here on Pennock's, I will skip all the boring removal/installation! It wasn't long after that the alternator stopped charging properly, and began making all sorts of nasty noise while the engine was running. I took out the old one and installed a rebuilt unit, which fixed the problem... no big deal.

I had taken off the passenger side rear wheel while I was replacing the alternator, and noticed a problem with my water pump belt. I took the opportunity to snap a couple of pictures of the excessive play. Even though this belt is cogged, it was stretched enough to slip when it got wet (not a good thing). After a bit of searching, I found a new belt and installed it... very tight fit, but problem is solved. Note also all the oil and gunk all over the frame as well... I think it's the front seal on the engine.



Next, it was time to start some interior work to achieve a black and gray fighter-jet theme. The first thing I needed to do was to redo the color of the interior panels using semi-gloss and flat black vinyl paint. Some parts had already been painted black, other parts were still the factory gray. The door panels were basically untouched originals. While the door panels were removed, I also took the time to put sound-deadener on the doors:





For the Fiero's interior panels, I started with the prep work by scrubbing them down good with a scotchbrite pad and alcohol. You can also buy a spray-on adhesion promoter to help the paint bond to the surface... I elected not to use it, as I've found that the paint sticks just fine with proper prep as I just described. Next up was masking the door panels. I choose to leave the map pocket attached as well as the door carpet to keep things simple. I used black Duplicolor flat-black interior paint... you can get this stuff at Walmart and most auto parts stores. This paint can be used on carpet, but it's best to re-coat/scrub it in good a few times to get it dark... it does lighten a bit after it's dried. Replacing the carpet is always the best option, but I'm not worried about it at this point.



Notice I painted the top of the door panel black to flow better visually with the rest of the interior. It also looks better when standing outside the car... nothin' but black!

Panels reinstalled:





Much better, eh? =)

Look for similar black and gray treatment on the rest of the interior.

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GonsaiPK MSG #9, 09-05-2006 02:39 PM
      Looks good! Say, are new seats in the works? Some black Mr. Mikes or Corbeaus would be rad.

ITALGT MSG #10, 09-05-2006 06:09 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by GonsaiPK:

Looks good! Say, are new seats in the works? Some black Mr. Mikes or Corbeaus would be rad.


New seats are definitely going to be needed! Driver's side is in ok shape, but the passenger side is torn up some. I will be replacing them both with aftermarket racing seats at some point in the future.

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ITALGT MSG #11, 09-08-2006 10:04 PM
     
When I bought this car the exterior looked good visually, except for the front bumper which had a couple of small spots where paint had been rubbed off. The only other obvious cosmetic issue was the tail lights, which had a lot of over-spray from when it had been previously painted. The lenses also had some minor scratches and scuffs, along with the delamination that you typically see:



I first removed the over-spray using a scotchbrite pad, alcohol, and lots of rubbing. Then I wet sanded the lenses repeatedly with 1500 grit sandpaper then 2000 grit, working out some of the more obvious pits and heavier scratches.



Next I attacked the lenses with rubbing compound using a power buffer, followed by some plastic polish and a couple of coats of wax. Here's the end results:



I was actually quite surprised how well they came out, and it wasn't all that tough. I will eventually finish this project with a black-out treatment using Night Shades spray tint. While I have them apart, I will also fix the delamination problem.



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ITALGT MSG #12, 09-30-2006 05:21 PM
     
Today I took a closer look at the tires and no doubt about it, they absolutely have to be replaced ASAP. They are getting pretty bad and I'm actually quite surprised how quickly they are wearing, considering an alignment had supposedly been done before I bought the car. So... a long story short... time for some new rubber, an inspection of the suspension, an alignment... and I get to finally powder coat the centers of the wheels black!

I knew I was going to be putting the car up on stands eventually for some work, just not this soon! That's ok though... today I broke down and bought a el-cheapo "Black Jack" 3 ton low-profile jack (steel) from ol' Wally-World, $68... 3.3" height minimum. Also bought some GM Goodwrench 3-ton jack stands with a 21" max height... those sold for $17 a pair. About $100 and a trip to Walmart gets you this:



I just tried it on the car... it does clear nicely, and also lets you inboard enough to reach the engine cradle. The steel lift pad is a little big for lifting in the factory jack locations... I'm sure a rubber pad would be useful here, but I won't be using it there anyway.

The existing tires are Falken 215/45ZR-17 front, 235/45ZR-17rear. I will probably go the cheap route for now and find some good used rubber. Down the road I would like to install more of an 18" diameter wheel front and 19" or 20" rear wheel combination. For now, it's time to start pricing out some new rolling stock... and start playing with the powder coating machine at work!

Stay "tuned!"

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ITALGT MSG #13, 10-01-2006 12:47 AM
     
Today I got the car up on stands and removed the wheels for the inevitable... it's time to get started on powder coating the wheels. I'm also taking this time to thoroughly inspect the car, as I really haven't since it was bought. I like the idea of catching the little problems before the big ones arise... like the suspension/alignment issue.



I am thinking about replacing the 11.25" solid rotors with cross-drilled units eventually, and possibly upgrading the calipers. In the meantime, here's a look at those nasty tires heading for the dump:

Front tires:



Rear tires:



Yeah, we seem to have some suspension issues, don't we? Hopefully nothing that a good alignment won't cure. The passenger side rear tire is actually the only one that shows no excessive wear. The driver's side rear tire actually has a broken belt on it's inner perimeter (you can see it in the picture) and also has some obvious wear on the outside patch of tread. I suspected this was the issue when the car shook madly at about 70mph. I'm glad THAT chapter is over with!

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speedracerfx (mmacb78498@aol.com) MSG #14, 10-01-2006 01:20 AM
      Wow. That's an awesome looking car. I think my favorite thing is the idea of powdercoating the wheel centers black....the photoshop of that looks wicked.

Dragon (dragon@spacecoastfieros.com) MSG #15, 10-01-2006 04:28 PM
      That is a nice looking car

You need to say the heck with it all and come to the Key with the rest of us drivers


http://mrmikes.com/fierorunforthekeys.htm




ITALGT MSG #16, 10-01-2006 08:59 PM
      At this point I won't be able to make it to the Keys unless I win the lotto, and I don't play! Seriously though, my intentions were to have the car ready by then but I've just had too many financial set-backs over the past several weeks. I just bought this Fiero AND a house within a couple of months of each other, so as you can imagine I'm just a wee-bit tapped out at the moment. I've never been to the Keys before, but it's been a dream of mine for years. I just hate to do this, but I'm going to say the words... "maybe next year."

There, I said it.

Have patience, my fellow Fiero freaks... I'll be coming out of the woodwork here shortly. I just moved here from the mid-west not even a year ago... and I feel I'm just now getting settled in. I'll be working on this car to get it back on the road as soon as possible and get to those club meetings and shows. In the meantime, I've got some work to do! Tomorrow I will be bringing my wheels and tires to a tire shop to have them separated, then begin the prep on the wheels for the black powder coat.

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #17, 10-05-2006 08:34 PM
     
A quick photo-shop showing what I have in mind when I powder coat the wheels:



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ITALGT MSG #18, 10-06-2006 12:12 AM
     
Update! A little change of plans on the powder coating... a quick photo-shop to demonstrate:



While I was masking the first wheel tonight, I came up with a change in design that I think will make a big difference in the way these wheels come out. In the following picture, I blacked out the inner lip of the wheel... much better looking in my opinion. It makes the wheel look bigger than it really is, and gives it a smoother look. By the way, the chrome and gold Enkei center-caps will be retained for now, it just isn't shown in these photos.



Red calipers maybe??? Hmmmmmm...

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jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #19, 10-06-2006 01:02 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by ITALGT:

[ I suspected this was the issue when the car shook madly at about 70mph.



Was it a shake or a wobble?
If its a wobble it could be solve by putting a hood vent, I had no Idea that was causing(or at least contributing to) my wobble problem till I took a trip down the highway with the hood off.

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ITALGT MSG #20, 10-06-2006 01:45 AM
      ...it was definately a shake, and by looking at the belt that is broken, I'm sure that it was the culprit. About the hood... a vented hood is in the future. Nice to know it will make it handle better too... =)

Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #21, 10-06-2006 02:27 AM
      I think you're headed for a mistake by painting your wheels black, personal preference I guess, but I think you'd be eliminating your contrast to the black. Also you don't just paint a set of Enkei wheels..too expensive a set of wheels, paint a set of Koning's.

-Paul


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #22, 10-06-2006 10:19 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by ITALGT:

About the hood... a vented hood is in the future. Nice to know it will make it handle better too... =)


I personally like a smooth hood so I'm venting mine out the wheel wells.


ITALGT MSG #23, 10-06-2006 08:01 PM
     

Very interesting idea... I've never thought of that before. I personally don't like a lot of hood vent styles out there, but there is one that to me just looks great on a Fiero:

http://i76.photobucket.com/...0115gtroncar0024.jpg
...thread with more pictures: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/060577.html

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ITALGT MSG #24, 10-07-2006 10:17 PM
     





One down... three to go!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #25, 10-07-2006 10:35 PM
     

Looks good !

Definatly do the red calipers though,...that would really set it off !


ITALGT MSG #26, 10-07-2006 11:21 PM
      Thanks Tony,

I was thinking about what color to do the calipers in, and the choices I narrowed down to are red or black. For the traditional "performance" caliper look, I like red; black though... aside from matching the wheels and body... would be very subtle/clean... and would enhance the "roundness" of the wheel and brake rotor. It also darkens the wheels area even more.

Until I can get the upgraded calipers I want, I'll see if it's possible to powder-coat the ones that I have now... same with the rotors (black). Not sure if the rotors will make it back on the car though... I'll be ordering some shiny-new cross-drilled units to take their place one of these days.

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Torquenstein (eric_eplee@microsoft.com) MSG #27, 10-08-2006 01:08 AM
      Wow, I'm astounded. Very nice work man, keep it up!



ITALGT MSG #28, 10-08-2006 02:04 PM
     
...Where did my dash go???



Oh, there it is, on my handy-dandy portable ping-pong-slash-work table!



While I've got a little time on my hands before I get the wheel and tire project done, I figured now would be a good time to do a little more interior work. Look for the similar black treatment that I did earlier on my door panels, along with a few other neat little details I have in the works for the rest of the interior.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #29, 10-13-2006 06:15 PM
     


I picked up a couple sets of those jack stands myself, along with a car cover.



ITALGT MSG #30, 10-13-2006 07:00 PM
      Nice!...

Thanks for reminding me... I'm gonna' be needing one of those car covers myself. Black is such a pretty color but such a b!tch to keep clean!

Quick update while I'm at it... I've got the other three wheels prepped and ready for masking, which I will have done this weekend. My plan is to have them powdered by the end of next week... then it's just a matter of time until I get enough money rounded up for the tires and alignment. Today I powder-coated my brake rotors black, now all I have left is to paint those calipers... how's red sound, Tony? =)

Stay tuned!



ITALGT MSG #31, 10-17-2006 09:57 PM
     

...Another teaser pic for ya' all...



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jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #32, 10-17-2006 11:31 PM
      Now how to convince you to chop it or get it chopped?

ITALGT MSG #33, 10-18-2006 08:08 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by jmbishop:

Now how to convince you to chop it or get it chopped?


No convincing necessary! Let's just hope Archie doesn't quit chopping anytime soon... I highly doubt I'll be doing it on my own... then again... hmmmmmm.....

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #34, 10-18-2006 11:58 AM
     
Once i get my v-8 Archie choptop down here to florida you are more than welcome to check
it out, if u want.



Tony



88White3.4GT MSG #35, 10-18-2006 04:55 PM
      i like that idea of painting the carpet. How does it feel now? does the carpet feel britle, or does it flake off?? I've got the beechwood interior, but i'm making the bottom half black to be different. Are you pleased with this paint from wal-mart??

ITALGT MSG #36, 10-18-2006 06:33 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by exoticse:


Once i get my v-8 Archie choptop down here to florida you are more than welcome to check
it out, if u want.

Tony



Thanks Tony... I can't wait to see your Fiero in person. I've seen plenty of Archie's work and the one thing that doesn't cross my mind is his lack of quality or craftsmanship... always top-notch stuff... and his shop has definately been putting out some mind-blowing Fiero projects lately. Hope your's turns out just as cool!

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ITALGT MSG #37, 10-18-2006 07:29 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:

I like that idea of painting the carpet. How does it feel now?
does the carpet feel britle, or does it flake off??


...Now that the paint has dried, the carpet doesn't feel much different than it did before. But... the carpet that I started with wasn't in that great of shape to begin with. In the future I will be completely redoing it THE RIGHT WAY, so for me this was a perfect alternative to new carpet. If you really want black carpet, I would suggest just that... the end product will be much better. When using the interior paint on carpet, this paint does leave a slight brittle feel as you say, but it doesn't appear to flake off at all (providing you clean it well and let dry prior to painting). The key to getting the carpet nice and dark is to multi-coat, allowing plenty of time in between coats to allow for soaking into the threads. After a couple of days, my panels were ready for the final "soaking." In my opinion, definately worth the few $$$ invested.

 
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I've got the beechwood interior, but i'm making the bottom half black to be different. Are you pleased with this paint from wal-mart??


...For my intended purposes, I'd say the Duplicolor does just fine. You may also want to check out other brands of interior paints out there... lots of colors available too. Cost will vary depending on the brand, but generally speaking, you get what you pay for. =) Just remember to prep your surfaces thouroughly so the paint sticks.

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ITALGT MSG #38, 10-18-2006 11:14 PM
     

...Last of the teaser pics until the tires are mounted on the powder coated wheels:







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ITALGT MSG #39, 10-19-2006 07:02 PM
     
Today I needed to replace a bad tire on my work van, so I went to a used tire shop just around the corner from where I work to see if I could buy a decent used one. Just out of curiosity, I asked them if they would happen to have any 17" tires laying around. Sure enough, after sorting through several "iffy" pairs and oddball tires, we came across these beaut's... Bridgestone Potenza RE050's 215/45R-17 front and 245/40R-17 rear:



The rears are little short on the sidewall, but for the price they will work fine for now. The tread on all four tires is deep and they even have those little rubber nipples on the side-walls. And the kicker? $180 for all four, mounting and balancing included. I couldn't pass a deal like this up; the cheapest new tires I found so far were over $450 for the set... and that's not even including mounding/balancing.

I had originally intended to replace the rears with 235/45R-17's but... that's for another day. Side by side with the old tire:



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ITALGT MSG #40, 10-29-2006 08:42 PM
     










Well, it's been a LONG three weeks of sanding, masking, sand-blasting, painting, and finally powder-coating the wheels. It's funny... three-plus weeks of work and the final powder-coating process lasts only about 20 minutes! If you ever wonder why powder-coating wheels is generally an expensive endeavor... now you know why! ...most of what you end up paying for is labor. Of course, I did start with wheels that needed some work to begin with (they had some road-rash that needed to be fixed too). But on the other hand, it was also nice to start sanding on wheels that weren't all pretty and new!

These were the first wheels I've ever powder coated, so it was also a learning experience for me. Now that I've done a set, I for the most part know what to do and what not to do... but I assure you, I won't be jumping at the chance to do another set of wheels anytime soon! It's not that it's that difficult of a job to do... it just requires A LOT of patience, attention to detail and elbow grease... four times over! The only reason I decided to do it is because "powder-coating" happens to be my day job. Someday I plan to have my own powder coating equipment and my own oven.

Overall I'm very pleased with how these wheels came out... and even more pleased how they look on the car. The "personality" of this car just did a one-eighty! I like the look of black-centered wheels on any color car, and I think they look best on a black. The other thing I really like about them is that they resemble the factory black-centeredd "honey-come" wheels that were standard issue for GT's and such... so not only do they look cool, they keep some of that original/stock Fiero look. I like that a lot!



The dash, center console, door pillars, gauge pods and trim were treated to the same semi-gloss/satin-black treatment as the doors. I also powder-coated the heater-vent grills with "Silver Reflectra" (basically looks like chrome). I haven't done anything with the gauge face plates yet... I'm thinking about painting them in a satin aluminum finish or black.



The car is now back together with an alignment scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have to say I'm very pleased how well the car is coming together. Next up is a list of small things: tail-light tint, rear-window tint, possibly install a rear wing, installing rear wheel-well liners, overall car detailing, and fixing a couple of other minor things. I am also in the process of buying another GT which comes with all sorts of parts I'll be needing.

Now it's a matter of preparing the car for the 2006 Fiero Fall Haul, on November 11th... this is going to be fun!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #41, 10-29-2006 10:35 PM
     

Wow Brett !

The car is looking sick !!!

Outstanding job,..can't wait to see it at the Fall Haul !!


ITALGT MSG #42, 10-31-2006 07:43 AM
     
Quick update...

Well, the wheel alignment was a bust... the driver's side inner tie rod was shot so they couldn't do it. I'll see if I can get a new one ordered and installed so an alignment can be done before going to the car show.

Not much time left!

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ITALGT MSG #43, 11-04-2006 02:03 PM
     
Another quick update...

I've got the car up on jack stands again, and I've already got the new inner tie-rod from Rodney Dickman (excellent service as usual!), as well as a couple of door hinge kits that I've been needing. I did get over-anxious though and didn't order a new tie-rod boot along with the tie-rod, so I got one of those coming too. I should have it all together and aligned later this week, hopefully in time for Thursday night's club meeting.

I somehow managed to throw my back out yesterday and it's hurtin', so I'm not sure how much more work I'll be getting done on the car this weekend... at least it's mostly the little stuff I'm needing to get done before the show anyways.I'll see how much pain I can deal with... I'm going back out to the shop!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #44, 11-04-2006 02:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:

Another quick update...

I've got the car up on jack stands again... I've already got the new inner tie-rod from Rodney Dickman, as well as a couple of door hinge kits I've been needing. I got over-anxious though and didn't order a new tie-rod boot, so I got one of those coming too. I should have it all together and aligned later this week, hopefully in time for thursday-night's club meeting!

I somehow managed to throw my back out yesterday and it's a hurtin', so I'm not sure how much more work I'll be getting done on the car this weekend... but it's mostly the little stuff I'm needing to get done before the show anyways.

I'll see how much pain I can deal with... I'm going back out to the shop! =P



Brett, you talking about the CFF club meeting ??

If so you missed it, ..it was this past thursday. It is the first thursday of every month.


ITALGT MSG #45, 11-04-2006 03:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Brett, you talking about the CFF club meeting ??

If so you missed it, ..it was this past thursday. It is the first thursday of every month.


Yeah, you are right... *snicker* that just shows you how much I've been distracted, scrambling to get things done... how about getting there for next month's meeting??? lol... at least I'll get to meet some of you guys this next week, it should be a blast.

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ITALGT MSG #46, 11-12-2006 09:36 PM
     
Time for an update...

Well, because the tie-rod boot that I ordered didn't show up in time, I made it to the car show but without the Fiero. I arrived there a little late in the afternoon, just as most of the other Fiero owners were leaving the show. I did get to talk and meet with a couple of people before they left. Overall, a pretty impressive event that I will surely not miss next year.

Back onto the project! Now that the stress level is gone from getting the car ready for a car show, I'm going to shift gears and continue on with my plans. First up are those bright-red brake calipers... after seeing them on the car now, I have decided that they just have to go! I am going to paint them black to match the rest of the car and the overall theme I'm going for. The red looks ok, but it it just stands out way too much. Here's a quick comparison of the two colors:





The "jet fighter" theme is also coming along nicely inside the car. I recently powder-coated the trim screws to look like polished aluminum, and will be adding more details like this later. I also painted those gauge face-plates and shifter surround satin black:



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ITALGT MSG #47, 12-08-2006 09:39 PM
     
So today I finally got the wheel alignment done and the car is back on the road (which makes me very happy!). Life has been a bit hectic lately, but I still have managed to work on the car when I've had the time. I now have a few little projects going... here's a look at what I've done these last few weeks. The wheels are now fully "de-blinged" (no more distracting chrome center-caps). This is not that great of a picture to show... I'll have better ones coming soon.



Work continues inside the car... map-pockets were removed and I started playing with newly powder-coated door trim "rivets:"





I've also been piecing together a custom shifter. Here's what it looks like so far:



First gear position:



Reverse gear position:



So what exactly did I use to make it? The shifter that I started with is Rodney Dickman's shifter for aftermarket knobs, shortened 3/4" and then powder-coated Silver Reflectra. The shifter boot and plate is actually a Hurst kit I bought from Autozone ($15.00). The original plate was rectangular and polished... not the look I was going for... so I took the boot plate and cut it to a square. Then I rounded the edges, drilled new mounting holes, and gave it a "brushed" finish using 180-grit sandpaper. I finished the plate off with clear powder-coat. Holding down the plate is a cheap ($3.00) set of nylon license-plate screws with chrome beauty caps. I also fabricated a simple nylon sleeve to keep the boot in place, and topping it all off is a ($9.00) Mr. Gasket heavy chrome shift-ball from Summit Racing. I will upgrade to a polished aluminum unit in the future. There was just a little trimming to do around the factory trim plate, other than that, it was a very easy build.

Total investment? A cool $30.00... not bad.

You can see there a two mounting holes for and aft of the shifter plate still showing. These will be taken care of later.

Here's a crappy picture of the shifter along with some new pedal covers:



...and that's it for now. I'll try getting some better pictures up this weekend.

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ITALGT MSG #48, 12-10-2006 04:56 PM
     
Yet another change of plans on those door trim panel "rivets..." I utilized the same chrome license plate caps I used on the shifter instead. MUCH better effect with the chrome finish...



I used the supplied nylon hardware by cutting off the "snap-on" portion with a dremel tool, then drilling out the center for a screw. I also need to place a washer behind each piece for the caps to secure properly and not "sink" into the holes.

I'm also experiementing with some chrome snap caps I found at Lowe's, using them where I can... arm rests, door seals, trim face-plates, etc..

Armrests are soon to be painted black...

Here's a picture of how the interior is looking:



A better shot of the shifter:



1/2" solid aluminum rod I will fab and polish for the doors and dash:



...tail lights got the VHT Night Shades spray-tint treatment:



...and finally, updated pictures of the car. Note: black lug nuts will be replaced with chrome soon:





Here is the seats I've decided to purchase in the future... they are Summit Racing's sport seats, $189.00 each:



...and I think my clutch is starting to slip under hard acceleration. Bummer. It's not terrible yet but noticable, so I guess I better get my hands on a new clutch and plan for a cradle drop in the future. I also had the honor of discovering a wet substance below the clutch master cylinder on the inside of the car... gee, I've never seen THAT before! ha-ha... time for a new master cylinder.

Otherwise, the only other major things the car needs is a new alternator belt (to replace the early-morning squealer) and one of my catylitic converters is rattling away... oh yeah, need some new header collector gaskets too. But the car is driveable now at least.

That's about it for now. More coming... stay "tuned."

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pavo_roddy MSG #49, 12-10-2006 11:07 PM
      HI all,

bump.......



ITALGT MSG #50, 12-22-2006 04:52 PM
     
Update time!

Here's my "pre-post" post for the weekend (more coming somewhere in the next four days). I've got the drive-pulleys and alternator belt cleaned up with some brake cleaner to take care of that annoying belt squeal. Also bought a pair of Percy's aluminum header-collector gaskets for installation this weekend, as one of the original copper's didn't hold up and blew out. A new first-gen clutch master-cylinder is on it's way from the Fiero Store, hopefully it will show up soon so I can get it installed this weekend. The interior is coming together NICELY (IMO)... more pictures coming... and lastly, I have some new chrome lug nuts to finish off those black powder-coated wheels.

Stay tuned...

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Dr.Porsche (rsr914k@yahoo.com) MSG #51, 12-23-2006 01:41 PM
      I think you are really doing a nice job with the interior. Love the shifter!

ITALGT MSG #52, 12-24-2006 01:59 PM
     
Alright... some little stuff....

The new "spline-drive" lug nuts installed;





Chrome fender "rivets:"



...also installed the aluminum header-collector gaskets last night, and presto, no more leaks. I'll torque them down again after I heat them up by doing a couple of W.O.T burnouts...

...just kidding.

Haven't recieved the clutch master cylinder yet... hoping to get it by Tuesday (fingers crossed).

I also need to take some new pictures of the interior this weekend, that is if the rain ever stops here in central Florida. I've been working a little with that aluminum rod for the interior, as well as experimenting with more of those chrome caps.

More to come... stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #53, 12-30-2006 06:45 PM
     
Latest shots... computer problems kept me from posting them last weekend:













The car is now running and drivable with only a few quirks to speak of. Not sure if it's a problem or not yet, but the fuel-pump is suddenly making a lot of noise. I'm going to change the fuel filter this weekend in the hopes that the cause is that crud is clogging the old one. I also am still experiencing a very noticeable steering-wheel shake at 70mph and above... new tires and alignment have recently been performed, and the brakes feel fine... so I'm not really sure what to check next. And the last issue at hand... a toasted catylitic converter that happily shakes, rattles and bangs away... gotta' get that fixed! It's getting to be VERY annoying...

I think I've located some parts I've been needing, so hopefully the car will be a little closer to "completion" here real soon.

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Russmanu (russmanu7@aol.com) MSG #54, 12-30-2006 07:28 PM
      The car is looking very smart. You have done a very nice job, I like the theme you are trying to acheive.
When I get my next Fiero, I think this is the same path I will follow, keep up the good work .

Russ B


ITALGT MSG #55, 02-03-2007 05:53 PM
     
It's been hectic the last few weeks so no updates... 'til now. I've been wanting to try out some stainless-steel covering on my gauge trim plates, mainly to determine if it's the look I want or not. I purchased a couple of 20" x 4' self-adhesive rolls from Lowe's ($7 a roll)... plenty to play with. I did a quick job on the speedo plate with very promising results:









Now that I've made a practice run with this stuff, I considering making this a project. Based on what I've seen, this "decorative covering" can be trimmed easily and actually looks great... especially if you apply it to a perfectly flat area with no imperfections. I can tell already that the toughest part will be trimming the smaller warning light holes and curved corners... but I'm working on some ideas that will take care of that. I'll have several exacto blades on hand, as I think keeping a sharp blade will make a big difference.

So... most of my creative energy has been focused on the interior lately, and after many sessions of picture browsing and thought, I'm thinking about going towards a "Ferrari 360 Modena" style black/tan two-tone with aluminum highlights.



Seats I'm considering with this combo:



Hmmmmmm.... this build is about to get real interesting!

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twofatguys (brad@wheatoncomputer.com) MSG #56, 02-03-2007 10:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:
So... most of my creative energy has been focused on the interior lately, and after many sessions of picture browsing and thought, I'm leaning towards a "Ferrari 360 Modena" style black/tan two-tone with aluminum highlights.



Seats I'm considering with this combo:



Heh he heee.... this build is about to get real interesting!

Brett



Ummmmm,

I really like the black/black fighter cockpit theme you have going, I think the black/tan theme will ruin the look.

That said, you have surprised me on a few of the things you have done so far, so I won't judge, just warn

I love the license plate screw cover idea, can we see a picture of inside from outside again?

Keep up the Awsome work.

Brad


Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #57, 02-04-2007 09:47 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by ITALGT:

_____________________DRIVETRAIN______________________



    Rebuilt 350 TPI 4-bolt main w/stock pistons
    *Rebuilt Getrag 5-speed
    *Vortec heads w/Scoggin-Dickey TPI base-plate
    *Comp Cams High Energy 252H Hydraulic Flat Tappet Cam
    *24lb. fuel injectors
    *Street and Performance custom burned chip
    *K&N filter


So far I haven't done much with it, other than change the oil using some Mobil1 synthetic and Lucas oil stabilizer, replaced the existing "wrong" spark plugs with correct reach Autolite 104's, and installed a larger K&N filter. I have to say I'm happy with the power level of this motor, but of course I'd like to up it some more! I'll stick to some subtle/basic mods first, like a throttle-body air-foil, low-temp thermostat/ computer programmer, air-induction, and a more free-flowing exhaust set-up.





Very nice car and nice interior. Well done On the TPI now that you have better flowing heads/lower intake you should try to open it up. Bigger runners and ported plenum will give you the best results. Those runners won't let you get the benefit of the heads/lower. That would be my 1st priority. You can get them cheap at thirdgen.org. Seen them many times. And of course tunning for it


ITALGT MSG #58, 02-04-2007 10:54 AM
     
Thanks for the comments guys... always appreciate it! I've done a lot of debating lately as far as how I want the interior to look when it's done. When I began the "jet-fighter" theme to my interior, it was intended to be no more than a supplemental stage of the build. I'm not so sure yet that I want an all-black interior in Florida... but it's growing on me none the less.

I'm looking at a couple of other seat designs that only come in black (synthetic leather) and may just go ahead and buy them, knowing that I can always dye the material down the road if that's what I decide. Here's one design I'm looking at for under $300 a pair on Ebay...



As far as the engine... I've done no more than basic tuning. I know right now the most restrictive part of the engine is the stock TPI intake system, which I'd like to take off and replace with better... but I'm holding off until later when the more serious mods on this car begin.

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ITALGT MSG #59, 02-04-2007 12:32 PM
     
A better shot of the interior:



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ITALGT MSG #60, 02-17-2007 06:01 PM
     
It's been a long while since the last update... for those wondering, I've been having some issues lately. After taking a trip to NY with a friend, I came back with a nasty respiratory bug along with a lot of body pain... then my back started giving me issues, and I'm pretty sure a pinched nerve and possible blown disc is to blame... going to the doctor soon to get checked out. I missed the last CFF meeting because of it and haven't been working on the car, so no major updates to speak of project wise. I did however want to share a picture that I found inspiring for my own interior project... it's the interior of the new Ford GT40:



I think will stay with the black w/silver theme!

And finally, yes I plan to be at the next CFF meeting... and I'm still getting ready for Daytona!

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Cajun (mvizina@cox.net) MSG #61, 02-17-2007 10:02 PM
      ITALGT,

Quick question, where did you purchase the scooped rear quarter sail panels? How was the fit and amount of work required to get them to fit if any?

Thanks,
Mike


ITALGT MSG #62, 02-18-2007 12:11 AM
      I believe these windows can be bought from the Fiero Store... as far as fitment, they were already installed when I bought the car. I can tell you however that they are of excellent quality and the same can be said for fitment...

Brett


Cajun (mvizina@cox.net) MSG #63, 02-19-2007 03:51 AM
      Thanks Brett for the feedback.

I really like what you are doing to the car. Keep up the fine work and keep us posted of any developments.

Mike


ITALGT MSG #64, 02-24-2007 09:25 PM
     
Quick update...

Been tinkering with the car some more now that my back has been feeling a little better... I have now installed the rear wheel-wells, with only a small bit of cutting required for the 350's water pump pulley. The door armrests are now black, and I've decided to stick with the black trim plates for now. I've also started to do some detailing and cleaning on the car.

I finally got my hands on a factory wing, it's in good shape... just needs some paint... as well as a new radio surround and kick-panel "Fiero" tabs... and a special thank-you goes to Frank Martin for for the surprise visit to my workplace with a few parts for my car! Much appreciated!

And finally... I played cat and mouse with a new GTO on the highway the other day on the way to work. Needless to say he and I were both impressed (he gave me the ol' thumbs-up afterwards)! I just can't wait to get this engine to really breathe!

That's it for now... as always, stay tuned; more on the way!

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F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #65, 02-24-2007 09:47 PM
      Thanks for some great ideas, hope you don't mind that I steal some!

ITALGT MSG #66, 02-25-2007 01:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O:

Thanks for some great ideas, hope you don't mind that I steal some!


By all means! I've got lot's more coming... most of what you see is really preliminary and/or experimental. I'm an artist who's got a lot of creativity brewing, so you may never know what's next.

Here's a shot of the door panel with the armrest painted black... the aluminum rod isn't finished yet, I just have it put in place for the photo:



And here's my "new" wing!:



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88White3.4GT MSG #67, 02-25-2007 02:17 PM
      i think your car looks very nice wing-less

ITALGT MSG #68, 02-25-2007 03:04 PM
      I think it looks great wingless too... it's the first wingless GT I've owned. BUT.... lol... I think it will look even better with the wing if it's mounted right. I will be mounting it as far aft as I can for a much more streamlined, euro look... it's a subtle but very effective mod I've seen done a couple of times.

Brett

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wingless (buffpowell@gmail.com) MSG #69, 02-25-2007 10:07 PM
      read my username....don't do it! jk, whatever you like, its your car dude!

David DeVoe (marcia.david.devoe@sbcglobal.net) MSG #70, 02-26-2007 11:34 AM
      italgt, I know you haven't asked but I have to say it. I like everything about your car but those stinking red calipers. When I look at the side view all I see are those bright red blobs in the wheels. Just my opinion but I'd lose em. Beautiful car otherwise.....and your idea for a black and tan interior rocks.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #71, 02-26-2007 06:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by David DeVoe:

italgt, I know you haven't asked but I have to say it. I like everything about your car but those stinking red calipers. When I look at the side view all I see are those bright red blobs in the wheels. Just my opinion but I'd lose em. Beautiful car otherwise.....and your idea for a black and tan interior rocks.


I think he mentioned earlier in the thread that he was going to lose the red calipers, if i am not mistaken ?


ITALGT MSG #72, 02-26-2007 06:58 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by exoticse:


I think he mentioned earlier in the thread that he was going to lose the red calipers, if i am not mistaken ?


Yeah, I still think the red is too much. I think it would be alright when used with different wheels and/or a car of a different color. But in this case, it's just too distracting to the eye. The cure? More black.

I'll have to get those painted soon!

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ITALGT MSG #73, 03-17-2007 10:23 AM
      The slave-cylinder war rages on...

Last week I decided it was time to disassemble my "new" slave-cylinder (only 6 months old) to see why it was bringing air into the system. Non-GM unit by the way. Sure enough, the inside walls were corroded in spots and needed to be polished out. After putting it back into the car, I gravity-bled the system as usual. On the last bleed, I was snugging down the bleeder (using no excessive force) when I heard a "SNAP!," followed by a splash as the bleeder and a chunk of the slave went falling into my drain pan. What the heck...

So... long story short. After a couple of failed attempts of fixing with JB Weld, a hose clamp and lots of brake fluid... no bacon. The slave is a junker, I need a new one... fast. Oh yeah, Daytona '07 less than a week away.

I've been getting ready for this show even before I bought this car... and a week before the show, my slave-cylinder craps out and my wallet is tapped. Imagine that? I'll be talking to a friend of mine today to see if he'll be able to help money wise... and let's just hope I can get one here in time for Daytona. At this point I'd even settle for borrowing a used one.

On a lighter note... I've got some more parts and pieces coming from Oslo to "finish" the car in time for the show. It's going to be so nice to get those missing parts taken care of!

6 days and counting, D'07!

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ITALGT MSG #74, 03-17-2007 01:54 PM
      My rear window is now tinted. I used two 5" removable windshield strips (35% tint from Walmart), and I'm happy with the results... for now. Eventually I will the windows professionally tinted. ($$$)

Brett


ITALGT MSG #75, 03-28-2007 09:31 PM
     
Post-Daytona '07...

Well, my skull is now peeling from the sunburn I got at the show! Worth it? Yes... but next year I'm wearing a hat! I may have not been able to even make an appearance this year, due to a last minute scramble for a new slave cylinder. But thanks to a good friend of mine, the car was back together the night before the show and ready to roll... minus wash job and quick detail. I did that Friday morning...

We (my friend Ed and I) arrived at the motel around 2:00 to check in. After being told that our room wasn't quite ready yet, we decided to take a stroll around the parking lot. About 45 minutes later we return to the front desk to check in. That's when we got some run-around about not being in the computer. Huh? Wait a minute. We were just told that they were cleaning our room... and now I'm not even on the computer? It gets better... suddenly my name somehow pops up on the screen and I hear, "It says here you made the reservation for the 18th, and that you cancelled it..."

What a load of crap! As it turns out, I wasn't the only one who got the run-around from the front desk. I talked to at least one other Fiero owner who also got the "mysterious" treatment. So, for those of you curious why you didn't see much of the car (and for that matter, me) at the motel, here's why:



...They stuck us waaayyyyy down on the opposite end of the motel... far away from the rest of the Fieros (I was surrounded by late-model Chevy Impala's instead ). Talk about a fish out of water. We still drank a few beers and had a good time regardless... but it would have been even better with the right company!

Unfortunately, this year money for me was very tight... I could barely afford the entry fee and motel, as a result unable to attend most of the events that were held. It really is too bad, because it looks like there were definitely some good times!

We spent most of Saturday walking the show and Sunday we checked out the swap meet area for 'Vette parts that my friend was needing for his project. I didn't expect to be away from my Fiero as much as I was, but there were just so many things to check out and do. And lot's of food too!

Here's a few shots from Daytona '07:







A few shots of my Fiero at the Daytona International Speedway, turn three:







So what's next? April's club meeting is next Thursday... after that I'll be doing a couple more things to the car to get motivated for next year!

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pavo_roddy MSG #76, 04-17-2007 11:53 PM
      HI all

What ever happened with the all the seats you were looking at? Did you decide, or buy any??



ITALGT MSG #77, 04-18-2007 08:12 AM
      Yeah, still going to replace those torn up stock seats with aftermarket racing seats... would have them already but there was no tax return for me this year (in fact, I'm paying in...).

It's on my list...

Brett


ITALGT MSG #78, 05-20-2007 02:13 AM
     
Update time...

I finally found matching turn signals so I could replace the missing lense...



...and finally got those calipers painted black, and touched up the rotors too while I was at it:





Back on the car... much better!





Next up... I have some mesh grill that I've made to fit my quarter-window scoops and will be installing tomorrow. After that's done... it's time for some cold-air induction!

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ITALGT MSG #79, 05-20-2007 01:17 PM
     



pavo_roddy MSG #80, 05-23-2007 01:24 AM
      HI all

Lookin sic!! I love what you did with the center of the rotors too! a + for you for that one!!



ITALGT MSG #81, 05-26-2007 01:12 PM
     
Work in progress!

Preliminary "test-fitting" of the wing for making custom aluminum wing mounts. Here, the wing is seen set fairly close to where I want it. I've always wanted to mount a GT wing this way... it looks so much better (I think) than where the factory put it (too far forward and too high).



This second picture shows how the back lip of the wing follows the front contour of the tail-lights:



The wing-ends are also set to be horizontal to the rest of the body lines:



I will be using a combination of aluminum plate and aluminum rod to make the wing mounts. Two 1/8" aluminum plates (2 1/2" wide by 9" long, slightly curved) will function as mounting bases underneath the wing:



I'll post more on this as I go (there will be a lot of test-fitting and experimenting going on here).

Last weekend I got the grills installed in those quarter-window scoops. I just bent and cut them to fit, then used epoxy and clamps to fasten them to the backside of the openings. Here's a couple of shots:





Also played with the interior a little more. Here, I painted the passenger-side storage area (black, of course):



...next up, that cold-air intake. Yummy!

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ITALGT MSG #82, 07-15-2007 05:30 PM
     
Update time...

I've had the car apart lately and took some time to study the inner fender-well for the best possible intake system I can build. What I'm now going to build is a "cold-air" intake with the shortest possible overall length and the largest possible intake diameter (4" tubing in this case) running from the throttle body to the inner fender. I will be using two 4" x 90* rubber hoses from JTR:

https://shell7.tdl.com/~jag...irClean_Ducting.html

There are a couple of reasons for going with the rubber tubing. First, the 4" diameter will clamp directly to the throttle body and will bend and flex to whatever shape that's needed to fit. Second, the large 4", free-flowing diameter will compensate for any restriction caused by the bends. Because I will be locating the filter as high as possible, there is a limit to how tall the filter can be. I've found an AEM "dry flow" synthetic filter with a 4" mounting base and a height of 5" (Part#AVM-21-205DK) that should do the trick. I'll finish off the system with a Holley throttle-body air-foil.

I'll post some pictures once I receive the parts and put them together.

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ITALGT MSG #83, 08-26-2007 08:13 PM
     
Quick update:

Today I ordered the intake tubing and related parts from JTR and the AEM filter from Summit Racing. I also ordered new clutch pedal bushings, adjustable clutch banjo, door hinge pins/bushings, and a 195*/185* low-temp fan switch... all from Rodney Dickman.

More goodies soon to come!

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topher_time (lost_caffeine@yahoo.com) MSG #84, 08-27-2007 01:05 AM
      Went back and re-read the thread. It's been awhile. My old GT had the wing mounted similarly, slid back and lowered, does loook good that way.

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Keep up the good work!


ITALGT MSG #85, 08-27-2007 07:11 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by topher_time:

Went back and re-read the thread. It's been awhile. My old GT had the wing mounted similarly, slid back and lowered, does loook good that way.

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Nice... I want my wing about like that, only slightly higher and farther back. I'm still working on those custom wing mounts made out of plate aluminum...

Brett


LeviM (lmoyers@liberty.edu) MSG #86, 08-27-2007 08:18 PM
      black is definitely the best color on fieros. nice car =)

ITALGT MSG #87, 10-06-2007 10:10 PM
     
Progress is good! I finally have the new 4" cold-air intake on the car and functioning. I still have a couple of minor details to take care of, but overall it's complete. I also added a Holley throttle body air-foil, adjusted the IAC valve, checked TPS voltage (and found I need to buy an adjustable unit!). I also added a Proform 50,000 volt coil to the distributor. The engine pulls harder now! Runs/idles smoother too.

Shown here, 4" rubber intake tubing made from two 90* elbows, one 45* elbow, one foot of aluminum tubing, AEM synthetic "dry-flow" filter, Holley air-foil, mounting plate, and heat wrap (for wrapping the coolant tubes running near the filter).



New 4" "cold air" intake versus the old, hot-air-sucking factory elbow:



Old 3" K&N vs. new 4" AEM dry-flow (no oil) filter:





I also fabbed up a steel and rubber engine splash shield so I can drive in the rain without the alternator belt squealing and slipping. It also happens to double as a heat barrier for my new intake system:



Other stuff I've gotten done in the past several weeks: re-powder coated the engine vents, installed a new clutch master cylinder, Rodney Dickman's adjustable banjo and pedal bushings, and new door pins and bushings.

It's getting late and I'm getting tired so I'll fill in the blanks later.

Next up: flushing the cooling system! (I'm so excited!)

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3.8 SC MSG #88, 10-07-2007 05:24 PM
      Where did you get the rubber intake tubes?
I need to make an intake for my 3800 S/C engine.

Thanks,
Don Z.


ITALGT MSG #89, 10-07-2007 09:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 3.8 SC:

Where did you get the rubber intake tubes?
I need to make an intake for my 3800 S/C engine.

Thanks,
Don Z.


I got everything I needed from JTR (Jags That Run). They have several sizes of tubing available, and provide many tips for making a custom intake. These guys specialize in TPI swaps, but should fit about anybody's needs when it comes to building a custom air intake.

I haven't talked much about building the intake or the installation of it, so I thought I'd share a few more details. First, the question of "was it worth it" would be answered with a definite "yes." It took a lot of thought, creativity, time, patience, and a chunk of $$$. But in the end I got what I wanted; a low-restriction, hi-flow, weather-proof intake that sucks in COOL DENSE air. No more worries about rain in my air-filter, or just the constant irritating thought that the only air it was sucking in was the hot air in the engine compartment.

Building the intake was rather straight-forward. I started by determining the most important part: where exactly the new intake tubing was to be routed. In this case, most of this was easy because there was only one obvious route from the throttle-body to the fender-well. Some tight maneuvering over the upper coolant hose was required as well as making some tight/short bends. This is when I realized that rubber tubing was going to be the best choice, as it's easily flexed and bent to conform to these tight spots as required. It's also thick rubber (about 1/4" thick), which also acts great as an insulator from the engine-bay heat.

OK... so I went with a 4" size intake tubing. Some people may think this is overkill... I just call it "being thorough." Part of this logic resides in the simple fact that a TPI throttle body accepts a 4" diameter hose. So, why would you want to go smaller??? Here's why you could go smaller... 4" tubing is a REAL tight fit and can be a bear to fit properly. A 3 1/2" or 3" system would probably work just fine and be easier to install and take off the car... but if you're anything like me, you'd rather not compromise! JTR does make a 4"x3.5" 90* elbow that would work well also... allowing for a healthy 3.5" system. If I was to do it again, I would consider it.

After sizing up the approximate positions of bends and appropriate lengths needed, I ordered the rubber and aluminum tubing from JTR. Lots of trimming, test-fitting, grinding, cutting, hammering, sweating and swearing ensued... and when it was all said and done, the 45* (middle) and one 90* (air-filter end) tube were cut down as small as they would go to get them to fit, and the throttle-body mounted 90* tube needed to be cut down on one end (again, as short as possible) to fit.

Mounting the filter where I did required some cutting of the inner fiberglass body reinforcement, and also involved trimming a portion of steel from the passenger side engine bay. I used thin sheet steel to make a filter mounting plate which gets bolted to the passenger-side of the engine bay. It was powdered in a textured black and lined with automotive-grade weather stripping for a complete seal.

I originally used the Holley air-foil because it was the smoothest design out there, and a little Internet research also uncovered a loyal following... but now I've realized that this particular intake set-up would work better with an SLP-type solid mount air-foil, as removing and installing of the intake is hindered by the Holley's protruding design. And it's plastic. I hate plastic.

And that's pretty much it for the intake... it's for the most part done. I may also be doing some more intake "tweaking" in the future, so by no means is this project finished. I also have some custom side-vents in the works (my own design).

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ITALGT MSG #90, 10-13-2007 08:21 PM
     



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ITALGT MSG #91, 11-10-2007 10:36 AM
     
Today I'm missing the annual Fiero Fall Haul, as I did last year... but despite my personal disappointment, I'm actually quite optimistic of the next few months to come. I've spent the last several months barely getting by financially, yet I've still managed to get several several things done with this project.

First up, I restored and reconditioned wiper cowl area. Wiper arms, hood striker bolts, hood latch and spring were all sand blasted and powdered high gloss black. The cowl cover itself was removed, prepped and then painted with a gloss black plastic paint. While everything from the cowl area was removed, I also cleaned, prepped and painted the frame and painted it with a semi-gloss black. I'll continue this process for the rest of the car as well.

Fully reassembled, using Rain X's new "Latitude" 18" wiper blades... sorry about the picture quality, it doesn't look like anything special here. I'll post better pictures later that will show better detail:



The car was parked in my shop for two weeks during this process, so I also removed my interior door panels to get access to the side mirrors for powder coating and to lube the locking/door-handle mechanisms. The mirror housings were blasted and powdered again using high gloss black, as well as my engine vents (which didn't come out like I wanted AGAIN). I will redo them at a later date. The mirrors turned out great though. I'll get pictures up soon.

Right now, my goal is to return to show and club activity in time for the Daytona '08 show, where I will officially unveil a much more finished and refined Fiero. Here's my to do list:

1. Exhaust, my number one priority right now. My car sounds terrible as is. I've spent months planning for this upgrade... get ready for something special!

2. Tail lights. Again, get ready for something special!

3. New seats.... and finally get those missing parts and pieces taken care of.

...And I'd love to get all that done before the show, but if not I'll be there regardless of course! My work vehicle broke down, so my Fiero now has turned into my daily driver for who knows how long. Right now my priorities are to take care of reliability and drive-ability issues, as most cosmetic issues are being taken care of, if not temporarily.

That's it for now, I'll post again this weekend...

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ITALGT MSG #92, 11-18-2007 09:42 PM
     
Ok, here's a few more pictures that I wanted to add last weekend but didn't...

First off, a few more pictures showing better detail of the redone wiper cowl area. Here's what I started with, stripped of all the pieces before refinishing:





After paint/powder coat:





I'm now starting to clean up, paint and detail the engine bay. Here's a good shot of what I'm starting with:



More to come...

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ITALGT MSG #93, 01-19-2008 09:05 PM
     
Well, here's a post that I didn't see myself ever making, and one I don't wish on any Fiero owner.

A couple of weeks ago, more "build" was added to this build thread with the help of a wooden bridge covered in an early-morning Florida frost. I drove over the bridge and began to spin around like a top with no warning, and with no control, going only about 25mph. The Fiero took out seven sign posts on the other end of the bridge before the it came to a stop... I was in shock and disbelief.

I never did find my side mirror... it got whacked by a sign post and went flying way out into the trees somewhere.

Let the visual carnage ensue:

















So the good news is that it was mostly cosmetic damage, with only a couple of places to straighten out metal-wise. The passenger side is pretty much all trashed so I'll obviously be looking for some new body panels. Looks like it's time to start working on my fiber-glassing skills.

As far as this build-thread story goes, it's just moved on up to a new level. Looks like it's about time for some of those body mods I've been thinking about... hmmm.... and that cradle-drop/engine-upgrade I've been wanting to do. We shall see!

Before the crash I was getting the car detailed and "finished" for this year's Daytona show. Well, it's obvious now I have an excuse for not showing up so don't give me any crap. I'll get it back on the road in the near future, it just won't be as pretty as it used to be. The paint wasn't that great in the first place... so really, it's all good. It's just a minor setback.

More later...

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ALLTRBO MSG #94, 01-19-2008 09:16 PM
      Oh man, that sucks.

Here's the obligatory "That'll buff right out"

I'm glad to hear that you're okay, and taking it somewhat lightly. It's a good thing Fiero body panels are easily replaceable! Good luck with the new upgrades.

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ITALGT MSG #95, 01-19-2008 09:27 PM
      Thanks... yes, it could have been a lot worse. There wasn't much more as a driver that I could do to stop it from happening... I became just a passenger along for a short but destructive, ugly ride. At least I didn't do it when I was on the throttle or driving stupid... I think I would feel a whole lot worse about wrecking it .

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Dragon (dragon@spacecoastfieros.com) MSG #96, 01-19-2008 10:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:




The Bumper Shop in Sanford would be good for this




Archie's wide body kit might be an idea for this, or flares like Curly does




Door skin and fender should not be that hard to come up with

How bad was the damage to the mirror mounting point?

Frank


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #97, 01-19-2008 11:37 PM
     


Wow Brett that totally, totally sucks !!

Man i was just talking about you and your car just the other day ! That was one bad ride.

Hopefully there is no frame damage ?

As far as panels go, I know the club (CFF) had a few body panels stashed away at Harry's repo place. Maybe you should give him a shout to see what the club has left.

Man i am bummed and it is not even my car.


88White3.4GT MSG #98, 01-19-2008 11:43 PM
      NO! ... man that sucks. i hope its fixable, this is one really nice car.

Jake_Dragon MSG #99, 01-20-2008 06:27 AM
      Wide body kit would just about cover up most of that
Good luck finding parts and hope you have it on the road soon.


ITALGT MSG #100, 01-20-2008 08:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Dragon:


Door skin and fender should not be that hard to come up with

How bad was the damage to the mirror mounting point?

Frank


Parts I'll be needing:

GT nose (egg-crates too)
Pass. side fender
" " Door skin
" " GT Ground effects pieces (all)
" " Round trim
" " Side mirror (mounting point is fine)
" " Rear wheel-well liner

I have an extra panel to replace the damaged one in front of the rear wheel, but everything else I will be needing. The nose looks in worse shape than it really is... you can't tell in the pictures, but there's not much being held together (basically it's ripped into 3 different sections).

I've got the panels off now and the car is on jack stands waiting for some skin.

Guess I know where my tax return money is going this year!

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Jake_Dragon MSG #101, 01-20-2008 08:47 AM
      I have the ground effects, panel that goes behind the door, front fender and possibly the bumper cover. They are all Red but you will have to respray anyway. I would say they are an 8 out of 10 because of the paint.
I'm at work right now, shot me a PM with an e-mail and I will send you some pictures when I get home.

I'm in lakeland about an hour and a half from you.


ITALGT MSG #102, 01-20-2008 09:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I have the ground effects, panel that goes behind the door, front fender and possibly the bumper cover. They are all Red but you will have to respray anyway. I would say they are an 8 out of 10 because of the paint.
I'm at work right now, shot me a PM with an e-mail and I will send you some pictures when I get home.

I'm in lakeland about an hour and a half from you.


PM sent, thank you sir!

Brett


Jake_Dragon MSG #103, 01-20-2008 10:20 AM
      Check your e-mail

FierociousGT MSG #104, 01-20-2008 10:49 AM
      Brett...

Here is some help if you still need it...
http://centralfloridafieros.../index.php?topic=7.0


Jake_Dragon MSG #105, 01-20-2008 12:21 PM
      You have a PM

ITALGT MSG #106, 01-20-2008 03:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:

Brett...

Here is some help if you still need it...
http://centralfloridafieros.../index.php?topic=7.0


Wow, thank you so much guys for the help! I just re-registered for the CFF forum so I couldn't respond there yet... I'll take all the help I can get.

FierociousGT, PM sent...

Brett


majesticpools (majesticpools@bellsouth.net) MSG #107, 01-20-2008 10:45 PM
      Wow! You guys in Florida have out done yourselves. I wish I lived there so I could "belong" to your club. This is what makes the Fiero brotherhood great, showing the "LOVE". It's refreshing to see your generousity instead of the flame wars. Thanks for making me believe in mankind once again. Good luck on getting your beautiful black gt back on the road Brett..
The Trog


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #108, 01-22-2008 11:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by majesticpools:

Wow! You guys in Florida have out done yourselves. I wish I lived there so I could "belong" to your club. This is what makes the Fiero brotherhood great, showing the "LOVE". It's refreshing to see your generousity instead of the flame wars. Thanks for making me believe in mankind once again. Good luck on getting your beautiful black gt back on the road Brett..
The Trog



No offense to any other club, but the guys at Central Florida Fieros are some of the coolest bunch of guys i have ever met. Our meetings are very laid back, informal, and fun !

Everybody tries to help each other with problems and what not.

This is just the tip of the iceburg.

BTW check out our new re-launched website too ! Thanks Dave (FierociousGT)

http://www.centralfloridafieros.net/

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Dirty Harry (harry@roederindustries.com) MSG #109, 02-05-2008 10:22 PM
      Hey Brett. Haven't been on line much lately & didn't know you needed parts. I think I have all of the rest of what you need. You'll have to spend the time to come pull it off of my parts cars though. Sending you a PM with my phone number. Harry



ITALGT MSG #110, 02-07-2008 08:34 PM
     


One step forward, two steps back... lol

Regardless... here's the Pennock's announcement; this Fiero WILL be a Daytona 2008, thank you very much!

V8 and primer... it will be kinda' nostalgic, huh?

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ITALGT MSG #111, 02-21-2008 10:14 PM
     


Quick update... very busy so I'll get to the details in the next few posts. The car is now very close to being put back together after some fiberglassing. Lot's of hand sanding and detail work is left to do. It will be sprayed with a black primer once the panels are thoroughly prepped and reinstalled. The rest of the parts I need are located and I should have them by this weekend.

Still working on finding some tires... looking for 235/45R-17's and 215/45R-17's... would like to get a nice used set again but I may end up having to buy new.

And this really sucks... aside from my Fiero being wrecked, my work vehicle died for good last week. I can't believe the luck I have sometimes! I'm officially calling it the Daytona curse! Now I have no vehicle at all, and I'm racing against the clock to get this Fiero back on the road for more reasons than just the Daytona show. This is beginning to feel like last year all over again.

On a lighter note... my motel room is reserved for Friday and Saturday for the show... oh, he!! yeah I'm going to be there! Believe it or not, this Fiero will be there too...

Details/ pics coming soon...

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red84sematt (dirtmister16@yahoo.com) MSG #112, 02-21-2008 11:36 PM
      hope you get your car done, keep up the good work. that car is awsome i wish i had another one to do something like that too.

Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #113, 02-22-2008 02:32 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by ITALGT:



Quick update... very busy so I'll get to the details in the next few posts. The car is now very close to being put back together after some fiberglassing. Lot's of hand sanding and detail work is left to do. It will be sprayed with a black expoxy primer once the panels are thoroughly prepped and reinstalled. The rest of the parts I need are located and I should have them by this weekend.

Still working on finding tires... looking for 235/45-17's and 215/45-17's... would like to get a nice used set again but may end up buying new.

And this really sucks... aside from my Fiero being wrecked, my work vehicle died for good last week... I can't believe the luck I have! I'm officially calling it the Daytona curse! Now I have no vehicle and I'm racing against the clock to get this Fiero back on the road for more reasons than just the Daytona show. This is beginning to feel like last year all over again...

On a lighter note... my motel room is reserved for Friday and Saturday for the show... oh, hell yeah I'm going to be there! Believe it or not, this Fiero will be there too...

Details/ pics coming soon...

Brett



wow windtunnel



ITALGT MSG #114, 02-22-2008 07:42 PM
      Actually, it's an "anti-wind" tunnel; it's first purpose is a hurricane shelter...

ITALGT MSG #115, 02-22-2008 08:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Wow Brett that totally, totally sucks !!

Man i was just talking about you and your car just the other day ! That was one bad ride.

Hopefully there is no frame damage ?

As far as panels go, I know the club (CFF) had a few body panels stashed away at Harry's repo place. Maybe you should give him a shout to see what the club has left.

Man i am bummed and it is not even my car.


Just got back a little while ago from Harry's and I'm very happy to say that I now have 90% of what I need to reassemble the car. Very special thanks to him and to Central Florida Fiero members who've helped me out so much after the accident. You guys are awesome... I've got a few things to bring with me to contribute to the parts stash/ parts cars we have also. I've got a few contributed panels that I won't be needing, along with some other Fiero stuff I've had laying around over the years.

Alright... next post is going to be getting in to some more details of the work I've done so far post-accident. I've been busting my a$$ the last couple of weeks working on getting my baby back on the road. The initial goal is to have it back together in time for the March CFF meeting (2 weeks from now).

Wish me luck.

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ITALGT MSG #116, 02-22-2008 09:54 PM
     
Alright, now to get down to the nitty-gritty...

Here's what's been goin' down in my world! One messed up Fiero is about to hit the road again... the first stage of repairs involved fixing the damage done to the quarter panel and the hood:





I'll say up front that I've never really done body work before, but the situation I'm in really leaves me no choice. I've read about it and have seen it done for years but have never had a good enough reason to get involved with it. At this point, how could I possibly make my Fiero look any worse???

There is a ton of info about fiberglass techniques on this forum and on the internet itself, so I won't dive into all the specifics. But I will show you a few pictures of how these repairs can be done. Keep in mind, this is my first time doing body work! If any of you "body-guys" out there have some advice to give or have some simple pointers, feel free to chime in at any time!

The first step I took was grinding down the damaged areas and sanding the surfaces down to the bare fiberglass, extending a couple of inches beyond the repair itself:





Next up was the initial glassing and reinforcing of the support structure behind the quarter panel. I also layed the first layer of fiberglass on the hood:





Here you can see the glassing I did behind the quarter panel pieces to make an area to lay glass onto. This also makes the repair much stronger because of the extra support on the back side of the panel:



The first layer of glass, sanded down level on the hood...



First coat of glass sanded down on the quarter panel:



Fiberglass filler was used to build up the surface and fill in low spots:





There is a little more filling and leveling to do, but for the most part these repairs are taken care of. The rest of the car has been d/a'ed with 220 grit, with only a little hand sanding remaining.



Once reassembled, the car will be block-sanded and prepped for it's initial coat of black primer. This will serve as a base to work off of while performing body modifications... of which will begin simple at first and progress to some more creative stuff.

Of course, I'll post more as I go... stay tuned as always!

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GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #117, 02-23-2008 01:44 PM
      Good luck. Hope to see you at Daytona.

Joe


Dirty Harry (harry@roederindustries.com) MSG #118, 02-25-2008 11:17 PM
      Was good seeing you again. Glad to have been able to help with the parts. Sure hoping we'll be able to admire your work at Daytona. Harry



DeLorean00 (twincam18@aol.com) MSG #119, 02-26-2008 01:25 PM
      Great work!! I'm glad to see your fixing this car!! One thing that I'm sure you already looked at, check your coolant tubes along the inner rocker area. If they have a dent or a kink you could have big problems quick. Once again I'm sure you already did this.

Good Luck!!!

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ITALGT MSG #120, 03-04-2008 09:32 PM
     
IT'S ALIVE!!!!







"New" tires, same Bridgestone Potenza RE50's... 225/45 and 215/45's...



WOW, I'm exhausted... I've been working nonstop into wee hours of the nights, all day on weekends... I was up for over 50 hours straight with no sleep last weekend (not having a car to drive can be pretty motivating).

I'm still needing passenger side mirror glass (power mirror). Anyone got one let me know...

I'll update again soon... and yes... I will be at thursday night's CFF meeting. See you guys there!

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DeLorean00 (twincam18@aol.com) MSG #121, 03-05-2008 12:54 AM
      Thank you, for not giving up on this car!! So many people would have just said thats it and walked away. Way to go looks great!! I know its early but are you going to paint it black again or do a different color? Personally I loved it black.

3.6lvvt6spdgt MSG #122, 03-05-2008 01:08 AM
      wow man you got some balls i would have just got a broken fiero with a good body and swaped all my parts over. but hey awsome work and good luck getting it back to the way it was.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #123, 03-05-2008 10:55 AM
     


Congratulations Brett !

Great job bringing her back from the dead.


ITALGT MSG #124, 03-05-2008 06:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by DeLorean00:

Thank you, for not giving up on this car!! So many people would have just said thats it and walked away. Way to go looks great!! I know its early but are you going to paint it black again or do a different color? Personally I loved it black.


I actually never even considered giving up on it... and I knew getting it back together wasn't going to be any easy task. I just wasn't planning on all of a sudden going from two vehicles to drive down to zero! I had no choice but to bust a** on it so that I had a car to drive again.

And then there's the Daytona thing...

Yes, it's going to be black again. Black has always been my color of choice...

 
quote
Originally posted by 3.6lvvt6spdgt:

wow man you got some balls i would have just got a broken fiero with a good body and swaped all my parts over. but hey awsome work and good luck getting it back to the way it was.



It was inevitable that the body was going to be redone anyway, so I'm actually ahead of the game now... no more shiny paint to screw up!!! And I've now become familiar with fiberglassing and body work in general... which is great because I've got a few modifications coming. Well... MORE than just a few...

Brett


ITALGT MSG #125, 03-05-2008 07:16 PM
     
Here's a couple more shots of the repairs. These areas still need more block sanding and prep:





And something I got from Frank Martin today that I will be bringing to the CFF meeting Thursday night:



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reapermedic (emilehamm@yahoo.com) MSG #126, 03-05-2008 09:44 PM
      Man, I am glad you got things back together. It would have been a shame not too. Kudos to the CFFers that helped out. I love to see stuff like that happen, it renews my faith in humanity.



ITALGT MSG #127, 03-23-2008 08:32 PM
     
I've been busy. Temporary rattle-can flat-black primer paint job:

















A little update on the shifter... I finally made a new boot bezel to finish the shifter base:



The seats were looking crappy so I did some masking and spraying with interior paint... good enough for now:





New floor mats from the Fiero Store (barely seen here):



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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #128, 03-24-2008 09:44 PM
     

Amazing recovery Brett !

Some of the things you have planned for the future sound pretty awesome.

Good luck. See you at Daytona !



ITALGT MSG #129, 04-12-2008 03:26 PM
     
Here's a couple of shots from Daytona '08:









I sprayed the seat headrests black:



Here's the new headlights I'm getting from exoticse:



...and here is a BLOWN TRANNY:





LOL... Yep, it finally happened at Orlando Speedworld Raceway last night. Heated the tires quickly, no burn-out... staged, proceeded to launch "conservatively" but hooked hard... track was sticky... and a sudden rev of the motor and grinding sounds ended my night before I could even get to second gear. I couldn't believe the Getrag let go that easily, but oh well... it lasted me three years. Now it's now time for an upgrade!

There's lot's more to tell so I'll share my ideas soon. In the meantime, it would be nice to find another Fiero I can use as a daily driver.

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ITALGT MSG #130, 04-12-2008 03:36 PM
     
BTW... now that my tranny is gone I will need to be selling the '86 GT/2.8 auto parts car that I just picked up from exoticse. Most of the car is there but it's not running... excellent for parts or project... GT wheels included. PM me for details if you're interested...



I'll be posting an ad with pictures in the mall soon!

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ITALGT MSG #131, 04-12-2008 09:30 PM
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ITALGT MSG #132, 04-13-2008 11:35 PM
      '86 GT for sale in the mall:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/041962.html


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #133, 06-21-2008 07:31 PM
     

Brett,

What is up next for this car ?

Bodywork ? Tranny ?


LowLux (lowlux@gmail.com) MSG #134, 06-21-2008 11:24 PM
      where did you get the steering wheel?

how does the shifter feel? how much $$ will it take for you to make me one lol..


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #135, 12-15-2008 01:07 PM
     

bump,..keeping it alive.


ghost187x MSG #136, 12-15-2008 02:42 PM
      the interior is real nice. diggin the black theme. where did u get the steering wheel from? overall good job on the fiero!

HC MSG #137, 12-15-2008 05:07 PM
     

Hold the presses! Where did you get this??


86stealthfiero (joshockey43102@yahoo.com) MSG #138, 12-17-2008 02:16 PM
      i love your car i did my car originally in the black theme i used the same interior paint and blacked it out i just wasent happy with the paint fadeing after awhile i think you should have ued my username lol. i had originally wanted to make my car into something radical like the stealth but i found a lust for a yellow fastbook.

ITALGT MSG #139, 01-30-2009 11:43 AM
     
Time for a much overdue update!

Yes, I'm still around. Still unemployed, so no major progress on the Fiero has been done. Right now I'm prepping the car for a cradle-drop and a "new" transmission, which might be the 4-speed from my '86 GT parts car. Originally I was going longitudinal via Dave Held's cradle kit, but the lack of funds prevent me from going this route right now. Same with the G6 6-speed, just too expensive for me at this time. I'm just hoping that the replacement will hold up better than the Getrag did.

The engine is going to get a refresh (new seals, gaskets) and the upper intake will be ported, along with new hi-flow runners. An electric water pump will be installed and there may even be a head swap involved; I would love to swap my iron Vortec heads with identical aluminum ones to get rid of some weight in the back. If not, I would at least like to install 1.6 roller rockers. Also considering stripping the car of AC/heater components, along with other parts of the car, for as much weight savings as I can get.

So that's the plan anyways. It's been tough to do anything without the funds.

More soon...

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doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #140, 01-30-2009 12:47 PM
      I agree that shifter is really sharp, where did you get it?

ITALGT MSG #141, 01-30-2009 01:47 PM
      Thanks for the comments! The shifter is one I made... it was pretty simple, really. The shifter arm itself is from Rodney Dickman and is oversized for aftermarket shift knobs. It was shortened a bit then polished. The knob itself is a $10 Mr. Gasket chrome ball, and the shifter bezel and grommet was made from a Hurst boot kit I got from Autozone and a wheel bearing grease cap (hole drilled in center for shifter to pass through).

I've never really finished it yet... would like to make it fit the console better.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #142, 01-31-2009 01:03 AM
     

Heeeeey Brett !

What's up man ! What's new ??


joshh44 MSG #143, 01-31-2009 03:31 AM
      im wanting to paint my car black after reading this thread!!!!
ill call it.... The Black Pearl.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #144, 01-31-2009 09:01 AM
      I habe to admit, not only is your build intriguingly stunning I find it amazing that you have never done body work before. I have seen pro bodyshops that don't do that quality of work. With your powdercoating and body skills maybe you have a different calling?

ITALGT MSG #145, 02-01-2009 01:45 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by johnyrottin:

I habe to admit, not only is your build intriguingly stunning I find it amazing that you have never done body work before. I have seen pro bodyshops that don't do that quality of work. With your powdercoating and body skills maybe you have a different calling?


If I keep breaking my Fiero I'll be good at all sorts of things. Fiberglassing isn't as tough as some people think it is... just requires some patience and a little bit of thinking.


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #146, 02-01-2009 10:52 PM
      I sent you a pm.....give me a call.

ITALGT MSG #147, 02-03-2009 11:14 AM
      This project is now FOR SALE, and will remain for sale until otherwise noted.

PM me with any serious offers... I'm also open to trades.

This build thread should pretty well answer any questions you may have.

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The_Ikon MSG #148, 02-06-2009 03:55 AM
      bmp for a good build thread!

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #149, 02-06-2009 02:34 PM
      hmm I pm'ed you a reply to when we were discussing the headlights you got off of exoticse... I know you said they're in rough shape, but you're really not willing to just get rid of them?

ITALGT MSG #150, 02-08-2009 07:41 PM
     
Car is no longer for sale! Let's call it a temporary lack of judgment! I'm going to hang on to her for now, all parts included. Stay tuned for further updates!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #151, 02-08-2009 08:26 PM
     

Whew !

Brett, glad to hear it !

Congratulations, good decision.



johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #152, 02-08-2009 09:06 PM
      Yeah....and some gentle persuasion from a few key friends!!!

ITALGT MSG #153, 02-09-2009 06:49 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Yeah....and some gentle persuasion from a few key friends!!!


Thanks for the therapy session John!


BMTFIERO (bmtfiero@outlook.com) MSG #154, 04-24-2009 10:38 AM
      A "Whats new?" BUMP

ITALGT MSG #155, 05-07-2009 08:20 PM
      Car is once again for sale in the mall...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/045616.html

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BMTFIERO (bmtfiero@outlook.com) MSG #156, 05-07-2009 10:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:

Car is once again for sale in the mall...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/045616.html

BRett


Say it ain't so!!


ITALGT MSG #157, 06-24-2009 10:26 AM
      Update...

I've given up trying to sell her... didn't want to anyway lol... so now what?

It's just worth way more to me than I would ever be able to sell it for.

Stay tuned....

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FierociousGT MSG #158, 06-24-2009 10:47 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:
Update...

I've given up trying to sell her... didn't want to anyway lol... so now what?

Stay tuned....

BRett

Best news I've heard all day. Excellent choice.


Blueiii (bleuii78@hotmail.com) MSG #159, 06-24-2009 11:37 AM
      I haven't seen this build before, so I thought I'd throw out a couple of quick questions and comments. . .

1.) I LOVE the "fighter jet" concept for the interior. I've been debating what to do with mine, and this might just be the way to go. I also live close enough to summit that I can pick up my seats!
2.) Nice work getting the car back together as much as you did. This is a prime example of the phrase "Blood, sweat and tears."
3.) You mentioned on page 1 you're lowered on eibach springs and 17s. I like the stance of your ride. Is this all that was done to provide this stance?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #160, 06-25-2009 01:14 AM
     

Whew, another close call. Hang in there Brett, ..it will be worth it in the end.

I think we all understand about financial and job woes amid the current economy and climate.


ITALGT MSG #161, 06-25-2009 11:07 AM
      Thanks guys... the biggest issue right now (besides money) is the blown tranny... if I can get that replaced, the project will move on nicely. Right now the car is up on stands and collecting dust, ready for a cradle drop. I sure do miss driving it!

And to answer the question about the suspension... yes, the wheels, Eibach springs and poly bushings are the only mods I currently have... would like to have it a bit lower in the front, and add coil-overs in the rear to drop it a bit more.

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ITALGT MSG #162, 11-14-2009 09:52 AM
     
Ok... so, there's not much new to report, but I did want to provide everyone with a quick update. I've done some more transmission research and have concluded that the best option for the 350 small block would be the new G6 6-speed. After reading through a few other threads on the subject, it sounds to me like this tranny is beefy enough to handle the V8 torque. Gearing is also better, with the exception of the stump-pulling first gear. I also like the idea of using a brand-new transmission, as apposed to an out-dated and rather fragile 5-speed Getrag.

As of right now, I have made no time frame for getting the swap done. I just began a new job a few weeks ago but I'm only part-time, so funds are still tight. But hopefully the next time I update this build thread, I'll be posting pictures of a new transmission!

Stay tuned...

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #163, 11-16-2009 02:39 AM
      Brett, you still in Florida ?

ITALGT MSG #164, 11-17-2009 02:00 PM
      Hey Tony, I'm still in Florida... my moving plans have been put on hold for now!

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #165, 11-19-2009 07:18 AM
      Brett PMed me, he is still in Florida in the same spot. Spoke about putting in a 6 speed but I am not sure of his timeline. I would guess it is still up on stands awaiting some surgery!

FierociousGT MSG #166, 12-08-2009 11:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:

Ok... so, not much new to report, but I did want to provide everyone with a quick update. I've done some more transimission research and have concluded that the best option at this point will be to install a new G6 6-speed. After reading through a few other threads on the subject, it sounds to me like this tranny is beefy enough to handle the V8 torque. Gearing is also better, with the exception of the stump-pulling first gear. I also like the idea of using a brand-new transmission, as apposed to an out-dated and rather fragile 5-speed Getrag.

As of right now, I have made no time frame for getting the swap done. I just began a new job a few weeks ago but I'm only part-time, so funds are still tight. But hopefully the next time I update this build thread, I'll be posting pictures of a new transmission!

Stay tuned...

Brett

Updates?


IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #167, 12-11-2009 12:34 PM
      wow man the car made a classy come back. good luck with the trans though great job so far

ConvictedRedneck (backwoodsfiero@hotmail.com) MSG #168, 05-09-2010 01:45 PM
      Bump! Any updates? Always admired your car!

ITALGT MSG #169, 05-20-2010 01:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ConvictedRedneck:

Bump! Any updates? Always admired your car!


Hey man, thanks! As of now, no major updates... I just wanted everyone to know that this project is still a go and that it hasn't faded into darkness. I'm now full time now at my job, so the madness can resume (slowly). Going to get that scrapped tranny out FINALLY and swap it out for the (hopefully) a G6 unit... will have my upper plenum/SLP runners ported, along with a brand new exhaust system and other mods. This car was quick before, I can't wait to see what it does when the TPI really breathes!

Updates on the way... stay "tuned!"

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #170, 05-20-2010 02:25 AM
     

Allllright !

Hey Brett, glad to see you are still around and kicking. Good to hear things are looking up.


ITALGT MSG #171, 05-30-2010 01:16 PM
      Thanks Tony! Looking forward to driving over to Longwood again. I work evenings now so it will be harder for me to make it though...

I'm sure it's going to take me some time to get this Fiero back on the road, but I promise you it will be worth the wait!

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ITALGT MSG #172, 07-19-2010 11:02 PM
      ...the latest on this project:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...110105.html#lastpost

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ITALGT MSG #173, 12-15-2010 08:03 PM
      New update...

I'm buying a home in Port Saint John, Florida and may be moving the Fiero to a friend's shop for the transmission swap. Looks like I am going to be using a newer generation F23 Getrag 5-speed in place of the old one... I just can't afford the G6 swap right now.

As always... STAY TUNED! =)

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KissMySSFiero (ssfiero@aol.com) MSG #174, 12-16-2010 05:38 AM
      Have you seen this thread? Might be worth considering and maybe cheaper than a 282 getrag.
congrats on the new home.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/083654.html


ITALGT MSG #175, 12-16-2010 02:21 PM
      Great information! Priceless, actually... I see an F23 in my future... =)

johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #176, 12-16-2010 03:36 PM
      Brett,
Glad to hear you didn't give her up. Even if it was to me you would never have forgiven yourself! Of course, I would have just sold it back to you!!!!!!!!!!! Get 'er done!
John


ITALGT MSG #177, 12-16-2010 05:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Brett,
Glad to hear you didn't give her up. Even if it was to me you would never have forgiven yourself! Of course, I would have just sold it back to you!!!!!!!!!!! Get 'er done!
John


She's gonna' be SICK.

I'll take you for a ride when it's ready. =)


johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #178, 12-18-2010 10:08 AM
      Can't wait!!!!

ITALGT MSG #179, 02-04-2011 11:18 PM
      Still lingering!

The last several months have been crazy... still looking for my first home in the Titusville/Port Saint John FL area, and I'm spending most of my time house shopping. I was closing on a house until the inspection went bad.

I have nothing new to report on the project, other than I'm still planning to move the Fiero to friend's shop for the transmission swap... among other things. See, it seems that he has a ridiculous obsession with turbos... that is all I'm gonna' say right now. =)

STAY TUNED...

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ITALGT MSG #180, 02-04-2011 11:20 PM
      *double post*

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ITALGT MSG #181, 02-12-2011 09:35 PM
     
This page is in desperate need of a picture! Here's a quick shot of my baby as it sits waiting to be transported to it's new home:



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ITALGT MSG #182, 02-12-2011 10:06 PM
     
Here's another shot of the Fiero (partially disassembled) from several weeks ago... also shown is my friend's Corvette (one of them anyways) while it was being stored in my shop.



Dis-assembly begins while I'm waiting for the new tranny:







The front end of the car is also being dis-assembled for detailing and modifications:



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KissMySSFiero (ssfiero@aol.com) MSG #183, 02-21-2011 05:44 AM
      have you picked up a trans yet? What trans will you be running?

ITALGT MSG #184, 02-27-2011 11:30 PM
      Unless I'm convinced otherwise, I'm gunnin' for the F23 tranny...

ITALGT MSG #185, 05-12-2011 10:53 PM
      Well, I never imagined for a moment that buying a house could be so ****'* difficult!

I've been in the house-hunting mode for over 7 months straight now and I am SOOO ready for the process to end. The Fiero is still sitting collecting dust... very regretfully it's still on the proverbial back burner until I find a new home.

THE GOOD NEWS: I've just signed the papers for a really nice house I found in Port Saint John and (if all goes well) I should close on it by June 30th. This will be my third attempt at buying a home... and they say "three time's a charm" and I hope "they" are right! So far, I have about $3K invested in this house and don't even own it yet (previous inspections, appraisals, gas money, etc...).

$3K would surely have fixed my transmission woes and then some. Sheesh.

So anyways, that's the latest update... if all goes my way, this project will soon resume. It better, 'cuz I'm getting antsy!

Stay "tuned" ya' all!

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #186, 05-12-2011 11:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:

Well, I never imagined for a moment that buying a house could be so ****'* difficult!

I've been in the house-hunting mode for over 7 months straight now and I am SOOO ready for the process to end. The Fiero is still sitting collecting dust... very regretfully it's still on the proverbial back burner until I find a new home.

THE GOOD NEWS: I've just signed the papers for a really nice house I found in Port Saint John and (if all goes well) I should close on it by June 30th. This will be my third attempt at buying a home... and they say "three time's a charm" and I hope "they" are right! So far, I have about $3K invested in this house and don't even own it yet (previous inspections, appraisals, gas money, etc...).

$3K would surely have fixed my transmission woes and then some. Sheesh. =)

So anyways, that's the latest update... if all goes my way, this project will soon resume. It better, 'cuz I'm getting antsy as hell. =)

Stay "tuned" ya' all!


Brett, i know your frustration ! Me and my wife have been doing the house tango for the past 2 years ! It is getting pretty ridiculous. Just when we think all is done, something crazy pops up.

Good luck to you.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #187, 01-19-2012 09:57 PM
     

Bump.


ITALGT MSG #188, 03-22-2012 10:31 PM
     
The project finally gets moved to my new home in Port St. John, Florida. Of course, it didn't rain until the EXACT moment we pulled up to the house to unload it... then it down-poured... lol.... good times! Special thanks go out to Brian S. for helping me get the beast moved into it's new cave:




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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #189, 03-22-2012 10:43 PM
     

Brett,

I know you may not have your car, but are you going to Daytona ?


ITALGT MSG #190, 03-24-2012 12:19 AM
      Hi Tony!

Yeah, I plan to be there at Daytona amongst the other crazies... I'm sure I'll run into you at some point! Got the Fiero home now, finally have internet again so I can post some updates...

She's in the garage waiting for the trans swap. I am going to build a wooden dolly to use to set the cradle on. The plan is still to mate a low-milage F23 FY1 (3.63 ratio) to the 350... more details and pictures are on the way.

Stay "tuned" as always.

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ITALGT MSG #191, 03-31-2012 06:05 PM
     
Preparing to drop the cradle:







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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #192, 03-31-2012 07:30 PM
     

Looking good Brett !

Man it was good to see and talk to you again at Daytona. Glad to see you still got the fire burning.

I know you are going to do something really cool.

Looking forward to all your upcoming updates.


ITALGT MSG #193, 03-31-2012 09:44 PM
      Hello again Tony... it was great to get out and see some familiar faces today, including your's. My half-hour Daytona "tour" was worth (just about) every moment! Aside from the rain cutting my stay short, it was a good time. I saw a LOT of Fiero's on the road while waiting to leave the track... it was quite impressive to see so many on the road at once.

It was great to see your car in person... as with Pedro's chop-top, pictures just don't do them justice.

Needless to say... I'm fired-up to get this project back on the road. I've got some work to do, and it's going to take a bit of time... but hey, they don't call this a "build" for nothin'!

Next up for this project: build a wooden dolly to set the cradle onto.

STAY "TUNED"...


ITALGT MSG #194, 04-08-2012 12:54 PM
     
Yesterday I finally had time to build the engine-dolly... this dolly is very simple and easy to assemble. For those wanting more details on how to build one, check out the following link:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/088599.html

Here is what I started with:



...and here is how it looked a few beers later:





Now on to the fun stuff!!!

All wires are disconnected, coolant tube is removed, the water pump is removed, the throttle-body is removed, strut-tower bolts removed, etc... she's ready to drop!

STAY "TUNED..."

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ITALGT MSG #195, 04-08-2012 11:29 PM
     
...and a few more beers later:







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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #196, 04-08-2012 11:33 PM
     
It's a beautiful thing.


ITALGT MSG #197, 04-14-2012 12:14 AM
     
Too much torque; sometimes it's not a beautiful thing! lol...







Obviously there was some terminal damage done at the drag-strip... a closer inspection inside the case reveals a destroyed/mangled spider-gear and the resulting carnage thrown upon the rest of the drive-train. The big hole is where the speed-sensor used to be.

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ITALGT MSG #198, 04-15-2012 08:19 PM
     
So the sun was shinin' here in Florida today... beautiful weather... I could have been hangin' out at a bikini-infested beach or something... but instead I went out to the garage, did some cleaning/organizing, and set the Fiero down on jack stands. What the !$@*...



So she's up in the air so the tinkering can begin... it's going to be a slow process unless somebody around here wins the lottery!

Up next... I'm going to need to support the frame better. I won't be comfortable underneath the car until I have more jack stands with better stability and support. Also, I'm toying with the idea of building a support cradle for the car to sit on, complete with dolly's to roll it around... we shall see. I will also be cleaning up the engine bay and removing unused brackets, along with opening up the trunk area.

Stay TUNED...

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #199, 04-16-2012 10:05 AM
      I am sooooo glad to see this started again!!!! I'll be watching it closely!

ITALGT MSG #200, 04-23-2012 12:25 AM
      Small update...

Today I spent some time thoroughly labeling all wires and connections in the engine harness so that reassembly isn't such a pain... also killed a BIG Black Widow spider that was hangin' out inside the front bumper cover... I'd say that some progress was made!!!

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ITALGT MSG #201, 07-30-2012 09:12 PM
      Still lingering!

There have been some major changes in my life, mostly good ones I must say... but unfortunately progress is painfully slow on the Fiero because of them. I'm currently doing some major upgrades on my house... getting ready to paint every room, replacing worn-out carpet with tile throughout, refinishing the pool and Florida room, etc... I'm a very busy boy!

The Fiero is resting on jack-stands, waiting for for the next chapter to begin...

Stay TUNED...



ITALGT MSG #202, 11-15-2012 05:56 PM
      Rumor has it that Santa may be giving me a new transmission for Christmas this year...

Stay tuned!


DaveC MSG #203, 11-16-2012 12:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:

Today I got the car up on stands and removed the wheels for the inevitable... it's time for some powder-coating! I'm also taking this time to thoroughly inspect the car, as I really haven't since it was bought. I like the idea of catching the little problems before the big ones arrise...




For some reason, I really like this picture. Looks like a jet fighter sitting in the hanger just waiting for the next retrofit!
Very cool build!!

Like the interior. Momo wheel is awesome, and the shifter looks beautiful.


ITALGT MSG #204, 01-11-2013 02:13 PM
     

...a flash back to Daytona, 2007.

So... I was a little disappointed with Santa this last year... I didn't get that tranny that I wanted. What is his problem anyways???

No worries though... stay tuned!

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Lugnut84 (kruelklownin@yahoo.com) MSG #205, 01-25-2013 09:59 PM
      Hey man, i saw this thread and started reading. Every break at work, i was back reading this build. Car is looking great and i gotta say, i was happy when you kept with the black and gray interior. Loving the stealth look man. I have subscribed to this thread. Keep up the good work. You are giving me some ideas as well.

ITALGT MSG #206, 01-26-2013 10:19 PM
      Thanks a bunch, Lugnut... I appreciate your kind words, I really do. I've played with many cars over the years, but I think this is the one I will one day be buried in!

I've had 3 Fieros before this one... 5 now in total... I'm not bragging, just saying, because it sounds crazy to me how I could have had so many Fieros when all is considered. I grew up in a Ford family where the Mustang pretty much ruled... and anytime the word "Chevrolet" or "General Motors" was mentioned, a cuss-word usually came before it.

My first Ford (and my first car) was a candy-blue '71 Maverick with a warmed over 302 V8 and other goodies... next was an '82 4cyl Mustang that I converted to a 289 V8 and C4 auto... then came an '86 Thunderbird Elan with a 302/lowered suspension (neat lines on these mid '80's 'Birds).... then there was the '91 Thunderbird Super Coupe, black with a 5-speed/supercharged/intercooled V6. Honestly, the SC is one of the best cars I have ever owned (had a lot of fun in that car!). I'm sure I'm missing one or two other Fords I've had, but you get the point.

I soon expanded beyond the Ford thing though, and found myself enjoying all sorts of cars over the years. The badge and nameplate were not nearly as important to me anymore. But my favorite of them all, by far, has always been our "lowly" Fiero.

Some of us on this forum have money and time... some have very little of either. I'd like to think that my build is more the latter, with a little splash of "blood, sweat and tears."

Thanks again for the kind words. One thing that helps to keep this project going is the encouragement and inspiration I get from PFF.

As always...

...stay "TUNED."

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ITALGT MSG #207, 01-31-2013 03:08 PM
      Alright... I've been doing a little "house cleaning" on this build thread the last couple of days, most noticeably on page one. It now pretty much sums up the entire project (all within the first seven posts) without having to browse through every page of the build. Those who have been following this build thread will probably notice new pictures, as well as a slightly different layout than before (using the same information). I also did a lot of small things that will probably go unnoticed, like fixing spelling errors, adding a word/changing a word here and there, correcting bad grammar, etc. I will more than likely do editing as time goes by. The goal is to make the information as accurate as possible yet easy to read/understand/navigate, and to be somewhat entertaining at the same time.

I've got some new updates on the way... been working with hammers, drills, grinders and a Sawzall.

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #208, 02-07-2013 08:01 PM
      The Fiero is now on a diet... it's time for some serious weight reduction. What this means is a general tear-down of the car and ridding it of anything that isn't absolutely necessary or needed. Pictures and details on the way.

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ITALGT MSG #209, 02-10-2013 02:16 PM
      As I had mentioned in the previous post, this Fiero is now going on a serious diet. The goal here is to eliminate the excess "fat" from all areas of the car to make it as light as possible. I won't be taking it to the extremes that other Fiero owner's that I've seen, but some serious weight will be shed none the less.

Here you can see the trunk has been completely removed to make way for the custom exhaust system I will be running, also to shed some weight from the back end of the car (where it needs it the most). Notice the reinforcement brace that was installed under the trunk pan when Archie and the boys did the conversion:







The interior is also in the process of dis-assembly for further weight reduction. I sold the seats to a friend of mine who will be installing them in his C3 Corvette. I will at some point replace them with light-weight racing seats. Unfortunately, most of the interior has already had the Dynamat treatment and the stuff is just too much of a pain to take off so as of now it's going to stay. I may eventually swap these doors for stock ones with no power windows or locks, and coat them with light-weight sound deadener. There is a lot of weight in these doors, so I will eliminate as much weight as possible while retaining strength.



I will post further updates once I get a little farther into the process.

Stay "tuned..."

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KissMySSFiero (ssfiero@aol.com) MSG #210, 02-11-2013 03:25 PM
      Did you get a trans yet ?

ITALGT MSG #211, 02-11-2013 07:37 PM
      Nope... but it won't be long, just got to round up the funds!

Still wanting to go the F23 route... stay tuned!

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ITALGT MSG #212, 02-12-2013 02:07 PM
     



ITALGT MSG #213, 02-15-2013 06:39 PM
     
Today I got some more dis-assembly done on the Fiero, and also began to degrease/clean the engine bay and the rest of the rear frame before going any further with the weight reduction and modifications. For those wondering, I'm not concerning myself too much with weighing everything that is removed and/or lightened... this topic has been covered thoroughly enough over the years by other forum members and is a relatively straight forward process. A simple search for "weight" or "weight reduction" will yield many threads to refer to. Instead, I will eventually weigh the Fiero once it is back on the road to see where it's at. I'm not expecting miracles (like below 2400 lbs), I just want to shed as much weight as I can while keeping the car street-able, enjoyable, and safe. That said... it's amazing how much dead weight you can find on a Fiero... you just have to dig!

As always... stay "tuned!"

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ITALGT MSG #214, 02-22-2013 09:07 PM
     
Well, it's been another productive day (and week) in the garage. I spent some more time removing miscellaneous engine-bay brackets (including the factory dog-bone bracket) and trimming down metal in and around the trunk area of the car. So far, a considerable amount of weight has been removed and things are cleaning up rather nicely. The rear frame is now down to it's basic structural skeleton and is almost ready for a little bracing and overall finishing... it's time to buy that welder I've always wanted!





The the rear clip is undergoing the weight loss treatment. The panels are being modified for a more "easy on, easy off" modular installation and dis-assembly. More on that later:



Next I will be removing the HVAC system while continuing the weight reduction process on the rest of the car. Yes, this means no heat and no A/C. Living in sunny Florida definitely has it's perks... for at least 6 months out of the year we have too much heat, and I frankly don't need anymore of it comin' from my ride! Besides... this Fiero is to basically be a bare-bones, no-frills V8 mid-engined sports car... visceral and raw... you could think of it as a four-wheeled sport bike with a comfortable seat and a windshield. And the need for A/C in Florida is a bit over-rated if you ask me... that's what your cushy daily driver is for!

So this is where things start getting interesting! I am ready to use my welding and fabrication skills to take this project to the "next level."

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #215, 03-15-2013 05:13 PM
     
Yet another step in the right direction. Today I received my new Chicago Electric welder... no, it's not anything that fancy, just a very basic 120V/90 amp flux wire unit from Harbor Freight... no gas, no frills. It will weld up to 3/16" steel (advertised, will weld thicker than that), and should be more than sufficient for the projects I have lined up for the Fiero, and most other projects I may have in the future. I could have spent a little more $$$ for a MIG welder, but really this will do the trick for what I need... for now.

I've been a proficient welder for years and have plenty of experience welding MIG, ARC (stick), and even some TIG. I've welded steel, stainless steel, and even aluminum (my favorite)... I just never had my own welder before. So this is going to be fun for me.



On to the next chapter!

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ITALGT MSG #216, 09-22-2013 02:22 PM
      Quick update:

I have been busy doing some major cleaning around the house. I soon will be posting an ad in the mall for lots of parts that I have but don't need... mostly spare parts that have been sitting in the attic, but also some parts that are right off the GT.

As for the project, not much has been happening due to lack of funds. Hopefully I can get a few $$$ from selling those parts so I can put it back into the car. Replacing the transmission is still the major priority... and because funds remain low, now I am leaning towards using the later model Getrag to replace the broken old original.

Anyways... as always, stay tuned!

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #217, 09-23-2013 04:17 PM
      I wish I had just loaded that tranny up and brought it to you. Glad to see you are back!!!

ITALGT MSG #218, 09-25-2013 12:09 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by johnyrottin:

I wish I had just loaded that tranny up and brought it to you. Glad to see you are back!!!


Thanks John... good to see things working out for you too, btw! I haven't really been gone from the forum... been lurking/visitng but haven't been posting much. Yes, looking back, I should have taken you up on that offer to help with the trans... at least I could have been driving and enjoying the Fiero all this time! If I remember correctly though, I was still very unhappy how easily the Getrag let go after a mild launch at the dragstrip, and wasn't too excited about putting in another one. At the time, I had my mind set on upgrading to an F40/F23 so I declined your offer.

A lot of time has passed... now I am liking the idea of using a late model Getrag instead. In my case, it's a more affordable alternative and way easier to install than a F40/F23, uses a hydraulic throw-out bearing, better/smoother shifting and has slightly beefier spider gears than the old-school Getrags. Not too concerned with having a LSD unless someone convinces me otherwise (not planning on doing much racing at the strip, if you know what I mean ). Same gearing as the old Getrags tho, which kinda sucks, because 1st gear has a WAY too high ratio for a lower-revving/torquey V8.

Because money has been so tight for so long (bought a house, got married, have kids, etc), not much has been getting done on this project the last couple of years. I now have a lot of Fiero parts for sale in the mall... hopefully I can round up some $$$ to get this thing back on track. Anyone in the central Florida area who's needing/wanting Fiero parts, check it out:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/067330.html

Stay tuned!

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KissMySSFiero (ssfiero@aol.com) MSG #219, 01-30-2014 05:37 PM
      anything new happening on this?



ITALGT MSG #220, 02-01-2014 11:40 AM
      Still dead in the water...

I'm pretty sure most people in my shoes would have just given up on this project

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #221, 02-01-2014 09:22 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by ITALGT:

Still dead in the water..

I'm pretty sure most people in my shoes would have just given up on this project


Hang in there Brett,..my project has been on the slow track almost as long as yours and that included a divorce !

Keep the faith, everything will eventually fall into place.

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Bozzie (widerisbetter88@aol.com) MSG #222, 02-01-2014 10:12 PM
      Brett and tony..... This is getting pretty ironic now. I went thru a nasty 2yr divorce as well while owning and building this project. One things for use is that this car kept me in sync. The light at the end for us all should be our dreams made real. Keep the faith and that glistening of light at the end of the tunnel. Your cars will be your therapist as it is mine

Boz


ITALGT MSG #223, 02-06-2014 07:49 PM
      Thank you so much guys... your words of encouragement are golden.

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Boogaloo MSG #224, 02-07-2014 12:31 AM
      Stay strong and don,t take that 9 count as long as there is life "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEEEEEEEEEE".

ITALGT MSG #225, 08-18-2014 07:36 PM
      Finally got the back surgery I needed.

Once again happily employed.

A new baby boy is on the way.

I'm ready to ROCK this Fiero.

Stay "tuned."

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Neils88 (nellerin@dal.ca) MSG #226, 08-18-2014 10:34 PM
      Congrats! Great to hear!

I look forward to seeing the project get back on track.


ITALGT MSG #227, 08-30-2014 11:53 AM
      Alrighty, back in business around here.

The search is STILL on for a replacement transmission... now I'm looking for a 5-Speed Getrag, preferably a later model FWD from a 1992-94 Beretta/Corsica/etc.

Getting ready to remove the engine and transmission from the cradle...

As of right now, I'm planning on ditching the factory TPI and Vortec base for a Weiand Stealth Ram to extend the SBC's usable RPM range for the low-geared Getrag. I would like to swap out the 262H cam for something with a more aggressive grind, or I may just use full roller rockers with the same cam. Not sure yet on this, as there are clearance limitations with stock Vortec heads when going over .470 lift and I wasn't planning to pull the heads. If I start going that deep, I may as well start considering building that 383 stroker that I want.

I'll be loosing a little low-end torque doing all of this, but that will help ease the load on the fragile Getrag a little, which is what I'm aiming for. Ultimately though, the extended RPM range should also make the car much more enjoyable/drivable, not to mention quicker. That's the goal.

I'm not building a drag car here, but I do want the transmission to last a while behind the SBC.

I can hear some of you laughing already.

Stay Tuned!

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fieroguru MSG #228, 08-30-2014 12:21 PM
      The HSR intake is a pretty nice piece. I just did Trinten's swap using a highly modified HSR (shortened & plenum flipped) here:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...3/HTML/000142-3.html

For the camshaft, I think if you switch to the LS1 valve spring retainers you can get up to .525 lift w/o machine work to the vortec heads, so the GM hot cam (roller cam with .525" lift) would be a good upgrade and worth about 425 fwhp with the right intake and exhaust.


ITALGT MSG #229, 08-30-2014 12:38 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by fieroguru:

The HSR intake is a pretty nice piece. I just did Trinten's swap using a highly modified HSR (shortened & plenum flipped) here:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...3/HTML/000142-3.html

For the camshaft, I think if you switch to the LS1 valve spring retainers you can get up to .525 lift w/o machine work to the vortec heads, so the GM hot cam (roller cam with .525" lift) would be a good upgrade and worth about 425 fwhp with the right intake and exhaust.


I've been watching that build, VERY nicely done. I've always admired your work and your knowledge here on the forum, I really appreciate your input.

I just recently learned about the use of LS1 retainers, but I just haven't found a lot of solid info on the subject. Sounds like it's the way to go for using my stock Vortecs. Also heard good things about the GM "Hot Cam" on other forums.

Note taken.

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ITALGT MSG #230, 10-05-2014 12:06 AM
     
Unfortunately I didn't make it to Road Atlanta this year to watch the 'Vettes rock Petit Le Mans, so I spent a good part of the day in my garage streaming it live from imsa.com while wrenching on the GT. It was a helluva' race despite some unfortunate luck for the Corvette Racing team. They wound up in 3rd place in points overall for the year... not bad considering the new C7R's early-season bugs that took a few races to work out, along with TUDOR's ridiculous "Balance Of Performance" crap and bad luck they've dealt with all season long. Next year is going to be very interesting.

As for this ongoing Fiero project... some things are just better explained with pictures instead of words.

I'll start with a ridiculous teaser pic. Yes, it's a cardboard box with some words on it. Deal with it!:



Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #231, 10-05-2014 10:12 AM
     
OK, so the cat's out of the bag (or should I say box?):



These are Schoenfeld 180 degree cross-over headers with 1-5/8" primaries and 3" collectors, part #179-2.

http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/180_crossover.htm

YES, they actually fit in the Fiero after a little "massaging."

NO, it's not as hard to do as you might think.

I will be glad to show you all how I did it... more details and pics to come soon.

Stay "tuned!"

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #232, 10-05-2014 10:31 AM
     

sweeeeeet !


Yarmouth Fiero (im_gman@hotmail.com) MSG #233, 10-05-2014 11:09 AM
      Wow............ just ....wow.

ITALGT MSG #234, 10-05-2014 11:59 AM
     
Firewall and trunk clearance is the real issue to deal with when installing these headers into a stock Fiero, as some trimming is required to fit. FieroGuru has been down this road before... check out his thread from the archives:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...100421-2-092757.html

The following video features the same headers I used, only in a stretched Fiero chassis for a Lambo replica. Notice when you watch it that there is plenty of clearance from the header tubes to the firewall because the frame is stretched, which moves the cradle/engine back about a foot or so from it's stock location. Works fine in a stretched chassis, but having this kind of clearance is obviously not the case in a stock Fiero which I will demonstrate in upcoming posts. Also, when the gentleman talking in the video says "modification" is required to these headers in order to clear the Fiero strut tower, what he really is saying is that the straight ends of the primary tubes going into the collectors need to be shortened before the collectors are slipped on. This is a very simple thing to do. Shortening the straight tube ends this way also keeps them equal length, retaining 100% of the headers efficiency and sound.

This style of 180 header is available from Schoenfeld in two variations, with different angled collectors and selected primary size being the only major differences between them. I chose the #179-2 because it has the 45 degree elbows that are needed to clear the strut tower, and because it has 1-5/8" primaries which are plenty big for even a heavily modded street SBC.

Here's the video. The Dr. Gas "Freq-Mod" mufflers sound like crap in this vid, BTW. SpinTechs would be interesting to hear:



And as for good 180 degree header sound... self explanatory! There's lot's of videos on YouTube featuring 180 headers. It's a sound I've loved since I was a child.

This vid shows the same headers I am using... wide open, no muffs:



Some more great sounds... here's a gnarly-sounding outlaw dirt-track car with a high compression SBC and 180's:



Kelmark GT with a 355 & 180's... built on a Fiero chassis... don't know which headers were used. COLD start:



Wicked De Tomaso Pantera with a BMW Alpina V8... not 180's, but a custom equal-length 8-2-1 system achieving a very similar sound:



Same Pantera, longer vid. Notice the almighty Ferrari hardly getting noticed, and the loud applause when the guy with the Pantera rolls in and does his thing... awesome!:



More info and videos of this wicked Pantera can be found here:

http://www.bodinecc.com/

I've always wanted 180's in my Fiero...

Now I have them.

More to come...

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ITALGT MSG #235, 10-05-2014 02:10 PM
     
From Guru's archived thread... this pic shows you the firewall clearance issue almost perfectly:



The first clue as to how I made these headers work in my Fiero, is understanding exactly WHERE the headers would hit the firewall if nothing was trimmed.

As it turns out, they would hit on the upper firewall area located directly BEHIND the center console glove box.

My, my, my... how convenient.

Second clue: if you are one of those individuals who absolutely has to keep the full trunk space in your Fiero, these headers are not for you. Luckily, I'm not you.

At the very least, simple strut tower bracing is required for these headers to fit properly and to retain the frame's rigidity. The front trunk cross-bracing has to go.

More details and pics to come.

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ITALGT MSG #236, 10-10-2014 07:21 PM
     
I spent a LOT of time examining pictures on the internet, watching YouTube videos, taking measurements and doing some serious eye-balling before I came to the conclusion that these 180 headers could fit with some creativity. After getting the headers bolted onto the engine while the cradle was out, I could see that I was in fact good-to-go with fitting them into the car based on actual measurements I took.

The first step was trimming the firewall behind the center console glove box so that I could put the cradle back in for the first test fitment for clearance. I decided to cut above where the shift cables pass through in an attempt to leave them as they were without modification. The rectangle-shaped cut was made all the way to the top to the rear window lower support, based on the overall height and position of the headers relative to the firewall. Again, I wasn't positive they would clear without slightly more trimming, but I was confident that it was close enough to try it out before removing any more metal. My hopes were to be able to reinstall the center console back into the car and retain the Fiero's "stock" look, so I cut accordingly. If it didn't quite work out that way, I would just have to make a custom center console... which didn't matter to me. Either way, these headers were going in the car.

BEFORE CUTTING:







AFTER CUTTING:









With the firewall trimmed behind the center console, it was time to drop the body back onto the cradle for the first test-fit. The headers actually fit great on the first try, with no more trimming necessary:
















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ITALGT MSG #237, 10-10-2014 08:37 PM
     
Here's a few more shots showing the actual firewall clearance. Soon I will be rerouting electrical wires and building a shallow steel box to cover the hole in the firewall:









More details and pics on the way!

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fieroguru MSG #238, 10-10-2014 08:53 PM
      That is cool!

I never took the time to figure out the firewall bulge was only needed behind the center console! Once I figured out there was no room for them, I started modifying them...

This exhaust project is quite interesting!


ITALGT MSG #239, 10-10-2014 09:31 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by fieroguru:

That is cool!

I never took the time to figure out the firewall bulge was only needed behind the center console! Once I figured out there was no room for them, I started modifying them...

This exhaust project is quite interesting!


Your previous efforts with this style of header and your old mock-up pictures contributed immensely in helping me make the decision to go ahead and put these headers in. I'm not so sure I would have tried to do it without them! Thanks for helping to pave the way.

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ITALGT MSG #240, 10-10-2014 09:59 PM
     
I'll get into more details about the rear header fitment this weekend.

This part of the installation was pretty straight-forward... the remaining structural metal connecting the two strut towers, without question, had to go:



Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #241, 10-11-2014 10:51 AM
     
After a couple minutes with the ol' Sawz-All, the remaining trunk brace was removed up to the strut towers and the rear header was put on:





The following picture does a good job of showing the height of the rear primary tubes and how they relate to the strut towers. There is plenty of clearance for a new strut tower brace to be put in. The primary tubes almost look like they were built for it:



I removed the remaining trunk steel on the ends of the strut towers, leaving the body mounting tabs in place. I'll beef up these tabs later so that they have more rigidity:





After removal, it left a nice flat surface to mount the new brace to:



Next up... strut tower bracing.

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #242, 10-12-2014 09:48 PM
     
Continuing on...

So after some more thought on the subject, I decided NOT to weld in the new brace behind the upper strut towers in the stock location as I had originally planned. In the end, I opted for fabricating a traditional style tubular strut tower brace; it weighs less, it's much better looking, it's simple to construct, it's easily removed if needed, and it's just as effective at bracing (if not more than) just slapping a big heavy bar in BEHIND the towers.

I got a little creative here and used factory strut assembly "spacers" or "hats" for the new brace mounting plates by mounting them directly on top of the towers. Here you can see the general idea, with a yardstick used as a reference to show approximately where the brace's main cross-tube will go:



The strut plates wouldn't go onto the towers without some tweaking of the upper strut hole "bulges" first. The strut bolts lined up with the holes in the plates just fine, but the factory domed strut holes were slightly offset compared to the strut plate's opening. Part of the inside radius of the plate's center hole hit the bottom edge of the dome. With a large blunt-ended chisel and hammer, I slowly massaged the outer/lower edges of the domes until there was just enough clearance for the plates to mount flat and flush on the towers:















With the strut tower brace mounting plates ready to go, it's time to cut up a piece of 1" tubing and weld it all up.

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ITALGT MSG #243, 10-14-2014 10:02 PM
     
After cutting and a little finessing with the grinder, the main 1" strut tower brace tubing is ready to go:










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ITALGT MSG #244, 10-21-2014 10:48 PM
     
The strut tower brace is now all welded up and ready for finishing. The welds are solid, but the thickness of the steel definitely pushed my little 90 amp flux welder hard. A more powerful welder would have been very good to have here for sure. Good penetration, but it lacked the power to lay a wide/solid bead on a single pass. Nothing some grinding and smoothing won't fix. I'll have more details/pics on that next.

So with the rear header fitment pretty much a go, I'll be turning my attention to building a simple steel "box" or recessed panel for the front header.

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #245, 10-23-2014 08:16 PM
     
Main strut tower brace in place with welds cleaned up:



Overall I am happy with the results, although it's not my best work I've got to quickly admit. I'm sure it looks great to most people, but I tend to be picky when it comes to these things.

At some point, I may build another strut tower brace that is more of a "show quality" piece, but this one will be just fine for now. After some priming, sanding and painting, I think it will look great under the deck-lid. Powder coating would be ideal, but I think I will save that expense for when and if I build a better looking (cleaner welded) one.

I'm continuing the blacked-out "stealth" theme to the engine bay, along with aluminum and stainless accents to keep it "raw."

I'm thinking this brace will look great in satin black.

More to come.

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ITALGT MSG #246, 11-22-2014 02:39 PM
     
With the header installation going smoothly, it's time for some overdue updates.

As mentioned earlier in this build, I was planning to retain the TPI fuel injection system and modifying it for more RPM's and power.

Well, not any more... bye-bye TPI:



Yes, that's a carburetor and intake you see. No, I'm not crazy!

What you see here is a black powder coated Edelbrock Performer RPM Air-Gap Vortec intake topped with Edelbrock's 650 CFM Thunder Series AVS (Adjustable Vacuum Secondary) carburetor. And oh boy, it's even got a manual choke!

Some people will no doubt scowl in disbelief when they learn I am ditching old-school 80's era fuel injection for a so-called "archaic" carburetor. I get it guys and gals, I really do. But this build is not about what other people think or say I should do, for me it's all about getting the ultimate driving experience and performance level I want to get out of this car when it goes back to terrorizing the streets.

In the end, I want the same connection to my car as a motorcycle rider has with his bike. I WANT a manual choke cable. I WANT to manually crank my windows. I WANT the air conditioning and most comfort features eliminated. I WANT the car to be a little temperamental... and WANT it to have it's own special character. It keeps it that much more interesting, rewarding and FUN to play with. I WANT this car to be no-frills, basic, raw, and nothing but visceral when it's completed. And more than anything, I WANT it to scare little children and old people! Well not literally, but hopefully you get the point.

For clarity... let's just say that this car is NOT being built for a daily driver, so my concerns about eliminating the EFI are very few, if any.

Let me rephrase that... I have NONE!

I actually WANT a carburetor, and here's why.

First and foremost... bang for the almighty buck $$$. Upgrading the TPI's intake runners alone costs about the same as the carburetor and intake combined, yet they produce way less power and only slightly improve upper RPM capabilities. TPI engines with aftermarket runners still produce the monster low-end transmission-breaking torque, and can't rev past 5,000 RPM's without the engine falling flat on it's face without serious and in-depth modifications. That's not such a big deal in a big, heavy car that needs lot's of bottom end torque, but in a light-weight V8 Fiero, it just plain ruins the overall driving experience.

On the aftermarket intake side of things, such as using the Stealth Ram to replace the entire TPI intake, the final cost gets WAY out of hand really quick (the cost of the intake itself, fuel rails, throttle body, small-body distributor, injectors, hardware/gaskets, etc). With the Fiero's ultra-low gears, I firmly believe that even a highly modified stock TPI system just is not a great intake to use on a lightweight Fiero. Still kinda' fun and no doubt quick, but FAR from ideal. That said, if one has the money for a Stealth Ram or similar aftermarket replacement intake... definitely go for it. These aftermarket intakes replace the entire OEM TPI assembly and are designed to flow/make power well past 6,000 RPMs... and they do it well, especially with a little porting.

As far as tuning, I actually prefer to do that with a screw driver... not a laptop. I want to have a more intimate connection with the car and be involved with how the engine runs and performs without burning a stupid chip. With that said, Edelbrock's AVS carburetor bolts on the engine ready to go out of the box... no changing jets or tuning required. Just set the idle screws and go. Adjustable vacuum secondaries allow for mechanical secondary-like performance, which is perfect for a lightweight/low-geared Fiero.

Then there's the performance. No more monster low-end torque with no useable power above 4,500 RPMs. I will now have a very broad horsepower and torque curve producing excellent USEABLE power throughout the extended RPM range to match the transmission's low-a$$ gear ratios. Drive-ability and reliability? Check. Wicked neck-snapping throttle response? Check. As a bonus, I will still get very decent gas mileage, as there's not much weight at all for the engine to move; the car already weighs over 200lbs less than stock. Not that I'm really worried about gas mileage!

Less dead weight too. By the time you consider how many TPI components there are, you quickly realize how heavy the system is compared to just a simple aluminum intake and carb.

Then there's the gear drive thing. I have an Edelbrock Accu-Drive on it's way. Don't get me started on the "gear drives are bad" debate, because the bottom line is they work just fine below 6,500 RPM's and you either love them or you hate them. I just happen to LOVE them. I'm after the gear-whine sound, not because I am the poser-type who wants people to think he's running a blower, but because it will add to the overall visceral driving experience I am after. Anyone familiar with the Honda VFR 750 motorcycle with gear-driven cams knows exactly what I'm talking about.

The real key to dual-idler gear drives? Just don't put one in an engine and expect to be revving past 6,500 RPMs... you're just asking for trouble. Even though I've heard guys run them with TPI with no problems, I'm just not going to take the gamble of messing with the knock sensor issue.

One last bonus... by going with a traditional carburetor setup now, I will be paving the way for installing stand-alone fuel injection system at some point down the road (if I ever wanted to go that route). I love the flexibility, tune-ability, and simplicity of these systems... not to mention, wicked power and tuning potential. If I'm still running a gear drive at that point, I'll deal with it accordingly if there's still a problem with the knock sensor issue.

The only real down side I can see by not using the TPI is the looks... I think it looks particularly bad-a$$ when combined with the 180 headers I'm using.

With that bit of news out of the way, here's the daily driver Fiero GT I picked up a couple weeks ago... she needs some TLC, but overall a very decent car. I will be using the staggered 18" Rohana RL05 wheels for this project, and I will replace them with the 17" Enkei's I am currently using:





More pictures and information can be found here:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/094923.html


Stay tuned, more to come!

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85-308 MSG #247, 12-11-2014 10:17 AM
      Just reading your thread now; you will be happy with your combo! I did a conventional sbc with 'only' a 600 vac secondary (yes, manual choke), the Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, 'double bump' CI heads very extensively (home) ported and polished, but with the smaller 1.94/1.5 valves, 'only' the CC 268H high energy cam, 1-5/8" headers and a high pressure oil pump ($2.98 Z28 relief spring). Not much else; stock pistons with an .030 bore, new stock rings, stock bearings; Rhoads lifters that I think helped; roller 1.5:1 rockers; a 3 way double row timing set (that I didn't really need to be adjustable; I didn't change it) and that's about it!
All that went into a (heavvvvvyyyyy) 78 firebird with a 4 spd and highway gearing. It was a BLAST! My brother had a 455 trans am at the time and he couldn't touch me.. which I exploited at every chance LOL! The trick is, as the cam manufacturers say so often, the COMBINATION. And that combo worked perfectly. You'll be happy.
Great thread; thx for sharing!
GP


ITALGT MSG #248, 12-21-2014 06:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85-308:

Just reading your thread now; you will be happy with your combo! I did a conventional sbc with 'only' a 600 vac secondary (yes, manual choke), the Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, 'double bump' CI heads very extensively (home) ported and polished, but with the smaller 1.94/1.5 valves, 'only' the CC 268H high energy cam, 1-5/8" headers and a high pressure oil pump ($2.98 Z28 relief spring). Not much else; stock pistons with an .030 bore, new stock rings, stock bearings; Rhoads lifters that I think helped; roller 1.5:1 rockers; a 3 way double row timing set (that I didn't really need to be adjustable; I didn't change it) and that's about it!
All that went into a (heavvvvvyyyyy) 78 firebird with a 4 spd and highway gearing. It was a BLAST! My brother had a 455 trans am at the time and he couldn't touch me.. which I exploited at every chance LOL! The trick is, as the cam manufacturers say so often, the COMBINATION. And that combo worked perfectly. You'll be happy.
Great thread; thx for sharing!
GP


Thanks for the heads-up!

In all honesty, I want to build a high-winding naturally aspirated SBC variant with all the goodies and keepin' it old school; in other words, build the engine specifically for the car. For now, I think this set up will be more than sufficient. And by reading your post, it looks like I'm right on track for a killer, very fast, very streetable SBC Fiero.

More to come.

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davylong86 MSG #249, 12-22-2014 07:09 PM
      I love the fact your putting a old school ( well for the most part) engine in your car. Cant wait to hear the sound of this motor. Great job

ITALGT MSG #250, 12-24-2014 11:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by davylong86:

I love the fact your putting a old school ( well for the most part) engine in your car. Cant wait to hear the sound of this motor. Great job


Thanks!

That's really what this project has become all about; keepin' it "old school" and simple with the proper combination of modifications that, as a whole, redefine just what a SBC V8 swapped Fiero can and should be. The final product is going to speak for itself... LOUDLY and PROUDLY.

SBC V8 Fiero haters be warned.

2015 is setting up to be a productive year for this project, and quite possibly the year she's back on the road. I've spent the last few months gathering the parts I need to get it back together, and I'm happy to say that I just about have everything I will need to do the job right.

Stay "tuned" as always, AND HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!


ITALGT MSG #251, 01-20-2015 07:39 PM
      Time for a small update to start 2015 off with.

My new daily driver Fiero has been keeping me busy and away from the project. As soon as I get the 2.8's high idle condition sorted out and the brakes replaced, I'll be getting back to business around here with the build.

More details of the 2.8 idle issue here:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/134419.html

Also... the 18" staggered wheels that are on my daily driver GT are not the stock wheel bolt pattern; they are a 5x114.3. Turns out what I thought were spacers were actually adapters. So no go with using them on this project. I will more than likely end up posting them for sale on craigslist.

Stay "tuned."

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TurboTec MSG #252, 02-15-2015 10:47 PM
      Really interested in removing the trunk in my 85GT I will be following along. Thank you for the detailed photos...
The strut tower brace looks great and I cant wait to hear you fire it up...
Are you going to ceramic coat the header tubes?


ITALGT MSG #253, 02-17-2015 04:44 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by TurboTec:

Really interested in removing the trunk in my 85GT I will be following along. Thank you for the detailed photos...
The strut tower brace looks great and I cant wait to hear you fire it up...
Are you going to ceramic coat the header tubes?


You are most welcome. There's a lot of steel that can be removed that isn't structural back there... take your time with the right tools and it should be fairly simple for you.

The strut tower brace I made may actually evolve a little further at some point. I'm thinking about using more tubing for some basic cross-bracing to the frame to stiffen things up a bit more.

And yes... the headers are going to be ceramic coated black.


Bloozberry MSG #254, 02-17-2015 08:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:
Main strut tower brace in place with welds cleaned up. ...I'm sure it looks great to most people, but I tend to be picky when it comes to these things.


I must be "most-people" then. It sure looks good to me!


ITALGT MSG #255, 02-19-2015 10:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Bloozberry:


I must be "most-people" then. It sure looks good to me!


That's truly a compliment coming from you Blooze'. Thank you.



2.5 MSG #256, 03-23-2015 03:01 PM
      Love those header pipes!! Though its sad to see the aesthetic of the intakes pipes taken away from the overall look, nothin wrong with a carb. And they arent unreliable as a daily driver

ITALGT MSG #257, 03-23-2015 09:17 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Love those header pipes!! Though its sad to see the aesthetic of the intakes pipes taken away from the overall look, nothin wrong with a carb. And they arent unreliable as a daily driver


I. Hear. That.

The TPI is still on the engine, and the engine is still in the engine bay. The TPI combined with the headers looks bad-ass to me, and could really look cool with the right amount of color contrast. It just sits there teasing me. I haven't been able to justify spending a ton of money to keep it just because it looks like a cool combination. Going to a carburetor is an easy step forward because of the endless supply of air intake components and air cleaner assemblies available for them.

I do in fact have a plan... stay "tuned".


ITALGT MSG #258, 03-24-2015 08:14 PM
      This episode of 'The Smoking Tire' does a good job of demonstrating the spirit of my build; garage built with too many hours to count. Passion meets purpose:



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ITALGT MSG #259, 05-21-2015 09:52 PM
      Not much SINISTERGT project news to report as of late... right now I am working towards selling my daily-driver '86 GT, as I am in great need of a pickup. I'm in the process of doing some more upgrades to my house (among other things).

Fixing a few things on the 2.8 GT this weekend... I'll be installing new Walker exhaust with cat delete (replaced with a 17" glass-pack from Summit) along with a new brake master cylinder, rubber hydraulic lines, brake rotors and new pads. I will also be putting on the stock 15" GT lace wheels with new tires.

Very little progress has been made with this V8 project lately though. That has to change!

Stay tuned for more project updates...

Until then... here's my ever-growing 180 degree header YouTube playlist... enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/pla...7e4yhljcfXdHoB0uqzLD

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ITALGT MSG #260, 01-22-2016 11:09 AM
      Way overdue update...

Progress is still relatively slow, but I've been pecking away at things here and there when I have the time. The TPI intake is now off the engine and the Edelbrock is sitting in its place. Looks very nice, and is also very compact compared to the TPI. Air flow through the upper engine bay should be much better as a result (I will be needing all I can get!). It's also time to get some matching valve covers (black powder coat with exposed fins).

I am also seriously considering ditching the AVS carb and investing in a stand alone fuel injection system like the one from FiTech. Prices have come down on these systems, although this particular unit is still about $1,000:

http://fitechefi.com/defaul...ISystem4-InjectorKit

The headers are off now so I can trim the ends of the primary tubes going into the collectors for final fitment. At this point I have a good idea as to how I will be routing the exhaust. For simplicity, functionality, sound, aesthetic and weight considerations, I am thinking a 2-into-1 system from the collectors back with a single resonator followed by Dr. Gas's FreqMod Heavy Duty muffler, which is basically a Spintech muffler with frequency modification that's designed for high-flow single exhaust systems.

http://www.drgas.com/FreqMo...ty-Muffler_p_45.html

Still debating on where and how the system will exit, although routing directly under the license plate is looking like the best option. I will be sharing further details in my next update, along with some pictures.

I did sell the daily driver GT I had, so no more project distractions. I also have some miscellaneous Fiero parts that I won't be needing, and will soon have them advertised in the mall for sale.

More to come...

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davylong86 MSG #261, 01-22-2016 01:06 PM
      Glad to hear your still going on this project. That has to be the coolest exhaust system ever put into a Fiero, cant wait to hear this thing rumble!

qwikgta (qwikgta@yahoo.com) MSG #262, 01-22-2016 07:31 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by ITALGT:



any thought to putting an additional "leg" from the top of the bracket to the firewall on both sides, kind of a "triangle" brace like mustangs use?



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ITALGT MSG #263, 01-22-2016 09:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by davylong86:

Glad to hear your still going on this project. That has to be the coolest exhaust system ever put into a Fiero, cant wait to hear this thing rumble!


Yup, still at it. Definitely a work in progress, but it should be all worth it in the end.



ITALGT MSG #264, 01-22-2016 09:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by qwikgta: Any thought to putting an additional "leg" from the top of the bracket to the firewall on both sides, kind of a "triangle" brace like mustangs use?



You read my mind actually. I think that type of bracing would be ideal for this Fiero... if I can find a good way to work around the firewall header and deck lid hinge mounts, I would like to add support tubes from the strut tower brace I made... much like the Fox body Mustang brace.

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Will (william.lucke@gmail.com) MSG #265, 01-22-2016 11:42 PM
      There isn't really much structure in the middle of the firewall.
It might help to build an X-brace to connect the strut towers and hinge boxes, but what would help the most would be an X connecting each strut tower to the joint between the firewall and upper frame rail on the opposite side.

And of course a lateral member to connect the strut towers since the stock one is gone.


ITALGT MSG #266, 01-24-2016 03:57 PM
      The cross-bracing will be a challenge because of the height. You are right about the firewall strength, there isn't much for structure for sufficient brace support. I also agree that the top frame rails meeting the firewall would be the ideal place to brace. Not sure yet the best way to go yet, I may have to get a little creative.

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ITALGT MSG #267, 02-04-2016 07:42 PM
      More project inspiration:





Stay "tuned"...


ITALGT MSG #268, 03-12-2016 01:37 PM
      Update...

The TPI intake system is now sold and is on its way to what appears to be a perfect new home. For those Fiero owners who haven't seen the GMC Indy Hauler build thread, you really need to check it out:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/068185.html

The new Edelbrock AVS carburetor was also sold to a private party off craigslist.

Also sold my OEM tail light assemblies... new owner is already fixing them up (more on what's replacing them later):

http://s390.photobucket.com...ia/IMG_1024.jpg.html

I'm now looking to purchase a stand-alone fuel injection system to top off the new Performer RPM intake. I'm pretty excited about the move to this kind of EFI, should be well worth the investment. Looks like FiTech has some competition now... Holley just came out with their own EFI system called the Sniper, and it looks very promising (better looking too):

https://www.holley.com/prod...i_kits/parts/550-511

That said, FiTech just raised the bar at SEMA with their "Go Port EFI" system. If I was to go this route, it would be more money and I'd have to lose my new Edelbrock RPM intake... but the bottom line is that this type of direct-port injection would be the ideal setup to use with the 180 headers. It is (for now) just something I am considering:

http://fitechefi.com/default.asp.pg-GoPortEFI

I'm sure I'd be extremely pleased going with either route, so we'll se what the budget allows for. Also still contemplating what type of air filter setup to use...

On a side note, wow that TPI intake system was heavy. Total shipping weight (minus HEI distributor) was right at 50lbs! Definitely shedding some more weight by switching intake configurations.

I ran into a small delay with the headers, specifically with the top two primary tubes on the firewall side. They are too close together in one spot and hit as soon as they are compressed. As-is, the collector can barely be slid onto the tubes because of the interference. It appears the top tube wasn't quite bent right.

I called Schoenfeld to ask them about it, and in a nutshell I was told, "We have been making that header in the same jig for over 20 years and never heard of a problem."

So that was that. Looks like I will just have to make a trip to the muffler shop to get things tweaked before I go any further. A little frustrating, but not that big of a deal. I hope to have the problem fixed by next weekend so I can continue fitting the collectors and moving on to other things.

As always, stay "tuned."

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motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #269, 03-13-2016 12:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ITALGT:

Update...

The TPI intake system is now sold and is on its way to what appears to be a perfect new home. For those Fiero owners who haven't seen the GMC Indy Hauler build thread, you really need to check it out:




Brett, thanks for props on the "Hauler", I do think the TPI will be a perfect addition, since the truck has a 4L60e trans the plans are to set it up obd2 using the 0411 pcm , for details see here.
http://www.thirdgen.org/for...oughts-opinions.html

Looking forward to seeing how your project comes along.

Joe


ITALGT MSG #270, 03-13-2016 06:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:


Brett, thanks for props on the "Hauler", I do think the TPI will be a perfect addition, since the truck has a 4L60e trans the plans are to set it up obd2 using the 0411 pcm , for details see here.
http://www.thirdgen.org/for...oughts-opinions.html

Looking forward to seeing how your project comes along.

Joe


No problem, I really like your build and will visit it often... its such a unique idea! Kudos to you.

The way I look at it, the TPI intake is not only period-correct for your truck... but when its done, you can also proudly say that it came directly off of a V8 Archie-swapped Fiero...

How cool is that?

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ARFiero (shelbyvvernon@cebridge.net) MSG #271, 03-27-2016 02:02 PM
      Just wanted to show you what the tail lights look like now.



Shelby


ITALGT MSG #272, 03-28-2016 06:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ARFiero:

Just wanted to show you what the tail lights look like now.

Shelby


Shelby, those look really good. I'm so glad to see them put to good use. Thanks for sharing the pic!

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ITALGT MSG #273, 05-14-2016 05:01 PM
      Small update for May 14th, 2016:

Since I have not been able to utilize Pennock's Image Poster after a Windows 10 update, I will be using Photobucket as my image source from now on. I haven't been able to post pictures for a long while now, and to be honest, a build thread without good pictures is rather boring. So keep an eye out for some eye candy, and lots of it.

Also, I'm ready to spill the beans on the exhaust system routing. I have pretty much decided to use a 2-into-1 system using a traditional SpinTech crossflow muffler. I plan to use a center-exit below the license plate pocket, or better yet, centered where the tail light housings were originally located. Somewhat like Car-Lo's "RBS-in-Limbo" exhaust setup, but using only two resonated exhaust tips instead of four, possibly with an integrated x-pipe. Light, simple, and efficient... it should sound mean with the 180's.

Car-Lo's current exhaust setup: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...000129-34.html#p1339

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #274, 06-11-2016 10:40 PM
      More project inspiration... now this guy has the right idea!

While some of the cosmetics really aren't my cup of tea, this is still one bad-ass and raw looking Fiero... totally unique. I'm sure the guy who built this Fiero isn't finished yet, but I sure like where his head's at:



http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=10150

Notice the center-exit exhaust pipes going through the tail light area. This is very similar to what I am building for this project, but in the end it will have a much cleaner, finished look.

Stay "tuned."

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johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #275, 06-13-2016 12:34 PM
      Glad to see you are still alive! ...and not giving up. That looks almost "Mad Max"ish.

ITALGT MSG #276, 06-29-2016 06:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Glad to see you are still alive! ...and not giving up. That looks almost "Mad Max"ish.


Likewise Johnny, much appreciated! Always good to hear from you. Much like true a soldier, giving up and quitting are words that do not exist in my vocabulary! It's taking time to complete, but I'll get there eventually.

Yes, Mad Max is one of the first thoughts I had too when I first saw that car. A lot of design elements I really appreciate. I'll be shooting for a more refined, finished look, yet stripped down to the basics without completely gutting and modifying it down to race car standards. I'll be keeping true to the basic body and interior design elements that make a Fiero a Fiero, utilizing subtle modifications that work together as a whole to enhance what is already there (hint: no widebody "kit"... but wide "bodied" Fiero with flares). In my opinion, the beautiful lines of the Fiero are already there, so I'm just going to tweak them... tastefully.

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Fiero Tony (tony.v.montelongo@gmail.com) MSG #277, 07-27-2016 04:02 PM
      Nice build you got going man. Hopefully soon I'll be upgrading my engine. As for the Mike's Fiero aka Pontibishi or can be called Mad Max..lol...that thing is pushing over 700hp. Check him out on his Instagram under 86Porsche. Has a Porsche front end. Keep up the good work!

ITALGT MSG #278, 08-01-2016 06:40 PM
      Thanks Tony, and again, welcome to the forum!

I'm diggin' your rocket bunny project... who knows, maybe I'll be your first customer when you have those flares ready.

Right now I've got deep dish 18x9.5's rear and 18x8.5's front with 1" adapters, as previously seen on the gold GT I used to have. The wheels need to be refinished, but to be honest, I'm not so sure I want to keep them. I want to run a staggered 19" rear/18" front combo. More on that later.

Stay "tuned."

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ITALGT MSG #279, 08-03-2016 08:45 PM
      "Rocket Bunny Fiero" has a ring to it...



"Rocket Bunny Chop Top Fiero." Now THAT grabs my attention. Chopping this GT is something I have considered... it already is a perfect candidate. I have the tools, I have the skills.

This rendering looks amazing:



More to come... stay tuned.

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ITALGT MSG #280, 01-06-2017 07:38 PM
      Still kickin'.

Project temporarily on hold while my home remodeling project remains priority. All-go for a Holley Sniper EFI system... and possibly a chop?

Stay tuned...


BeachBumPete (beachbumpete1@gmail.com) MSG #281, 01-06-2017 08:39 PM
      Never seen this thread before. Looking good man. Are you in the Space Coast Fiero's club? I just moved to PSL area. Nice to see lots of Fiero guys around the area. Good luck.

Pete



ITALGT MSG #282, 01-09-2017 09:02 AM
      Thanks Pete. I don't get out to club events/meets/shows like I used to, hopefully that will change once this Fiero get road-worthy again. I still have a lot of work to do. The priority right now is getting it back on the road taking care of mechanicals and the basic cosmetic aspects first. After that phase is sorted I'll make it pretty again.




ITALGT MSG #283, 03-02-2018 09:39 PM
      A "thread is not dead" bump... stay tuned.