How it happened: The FieroGTRwideboby Build-Up
Topic started by: FieroGTRwideboby, Date: 03-26-2006 04:28 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000060.html


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #1, 03-26-2006 04:28 PM
      This topic will cover the whole build up of the car and all the events leading up to the Daytona 2006 Show. I must say I am happy with the outcome of the show, and one not to be a sore loser, I looked and saw the minute mistakes to correct for next years show (??? ) First Place Custom Fiero was a great award and I am glad the work my father and I put forth was recognized by the judges. I will list all the fiero vendors we used to get this car done, although most of the parts were hand-made, without these guys it would have made it alot harder. I want to thank everyone for the positive feedback and am looking forward to opeing the pages to this chapter of our lives, headaches and sucesses to the Fiero community.
If there are any questions please ask and all will be answered.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #2, 03-26-2006 04:37 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

If there are any questions please ask and all will be answered.


Okay, let me begin, hehe. Nice car btw.

1. Carbon Fiber headliner?
2. Interior vents?
3. Rear wing....Carbon fiber or coated?



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #3, 03-26-2006 04:41 PM
      Yes carbon Fiber Headliner, good product offered by Kingdom Kustoms along with the 3rd break light trim and lighter trim,
interior vents from Ford F-150, employee price ( I work at a dealership),
wing coated with the paint used on the ford Mustang Mach 1, that semi black.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #4, 03-26-2006 05:01 PM
     

Alex, while we are waiting for the build pics why don't you tell everyone a little bit about yourself,
age, etc, how you got into fieros, your goals, and some of your inspirations for the project ?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #5, 03-26-2006 05:10 PM
      The car started out as a stock 87 GT all power etc. Ran great and originally owned by a local Pontiac Dealership owner, Mr. Marlow. My fiero experience began when we decided to make a Lamborghini Replica, this being the only car we could find in the area we bought t even though it was not for sale. after own for about 2 months and driving it we decided it was too nice for cutting up and making a fake Lamboghini.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #6, 03-26-2006 05:31 PM
      Well my name is Alexandar Bojidarov Alexiev and currecntly living in Florida. I am 19 now and have been living in the USA for 9 years. I moved from Bulgaria, lived in the capital, Sofia. I got really interested in fieros when my love for lamborghinis subsided due to the high costs. Hasn't everyones? I would love to own one but whose got the money, right? Anyway, I wanted a mid engine, 2 seater, with a degree of exclusivity, and there the fiero was the perfect car not only to own but the great donor for a lamborghini. Well I got over that too and after talking with many people and one of the most valuable resources became a family friend Fransisco Vilalba, a Equadorian native who told me, anyone can make a copy of something, it may look good but it never is the real car, make something from your imagination, something unique, something nobody has. As you can see thats how the games began. This is my last year of High school, soon after I will move to Ft. Lauderdale and begin my Transportation Design Degree. After graduating there I will have to move to Pasadena and attend Art Center College of Design where I will get my masters degree in TD. I want to move back to Europe and work for one of the European car companies, but who knows maybe one of the US companies will change my mind. Way to early to tell.
I hope that this will start a whole new chapter and business in mine and my dads life. He has a Cabinet shop here locally. We have never built any cars before this and we learned as we went for the past 1.5 years we learned so much, fiberglass, metal work, tons of engine, suspension etc and we continue to learn. We are happy with the outcome and glad people like it. He hopes this will be the start to a business change for him and my family. While wotkin on the car we did some bodywork for local individuals who heard about the car. It was a great sight, 3 cars infront of a cabinet shop getting body work done and then going to shows. We did from small repairs to major surgery. It was fun.! Witht the great experience we learned now anything is possible and anybodies ideas can be a reality. We learned that anything is possible..!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #7, 03-26-2006 05:43 PM
      edited version. hehe

 
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Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

1. I am 19

2. a family friend Fransisco Vilalba, a Equadorian native who told me, anyone can make a copy of something, it may look good but it never is the real car, make something from your imagination, something unique, something nobody has.

3. This is my last year of High school,

4. We learned that anything is possible..!

The best four lines I've read in a long time and from a guy who's 19. Keep up the good work. No doubt your second project Fiero would be out of this world!


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #8, 03-26-2006 06:08 PM
      Here are some of the car before the major surgery.

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=87gt23pb.png

Sourmug MSG #9, 03-26-2006 06:18 PM
      This should be a good read! Great car by the way, both you and you dad should be proud. Thanks for taking the time to make this thread it will be enjoyed by many I am sure. A + for you!

Nolan

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #10, 03-26-2006 06:24 PM
      Now for the body plug stage: We put the car in the back of my dads shop and it all started there.
What we did was make a plug, or a skeleton, which would serve as the foundation for laying the fiberglass over to make the molds. We used wood which my dad had plenty of, owning a cabinet shop, to make the ribs, cut to the outer shape of the car:
http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture4103hf.jpg
This process was mostly used on the rockers, rear quarters and doors.
The wood ribs were filled in with Home Depot wall insulating styrofoam, the large 4x8 sheets, that cost $6. The total styrofoam for the whole car was about 2 sheets, thats right $12.


carolinajoe (groovieguy@gmail.com) MSG #11, 03-26-2006 06:28 PM
      Welcome and Beautiful Car, Great work you and your dad did.

Can you tell me where and what did the Gas Cap/ Cover come off of.
I have been looking for a long time.

I look forward to reading the build-up on your car.

HI-TECH (centralvalley606@yahoo.com) MSG #12, 03-26-2006 06:31 PM
      bam...saved as homepage, hehe

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #13, 03-26-2006 06:36 PM
      Great work on the car. Seeing your car answered a lot of questions that I had about mods to my own car. Keep up the good work, by the time your 29 you should have your own car line. If you make a kit for sale from your car, you just sold one.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #14, 03-26-2006 06:38 PM
      http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture4111qj.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture4124la.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture4130hw.jpg

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carolinajoe (groovieguy@gmail.com) MSG #15, 03-26-2006 06:47 PM
      Oh I missed this too.
More interior pictures, I only got a glimpse of 2

So need more especially Door Panels. They look real Sweet

CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #16, 03-26-2006 08:54 PM
      Do we have any "PIP" experts here ?

I tried to help Alex set pip up, his set up doesn't seem to be working right. It's been so long since I download it. Don't remember how.

Any help would be great.

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865spd (football103@bikerider.com) MSG #17, 03-26-2006 09:07 PM
      Like i said in the other thread. That is the new best looking Fiero i have ever seen. You've done a great job. And i second what troyboy said, if you ever make a kit from your car for sale thats the one i would buy over any other. Keep them pictures coming.



1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #18, 03-26-2006 10:04 PM
      I'm in for the door panels, rear clip and front fenders, lol... No, but seriously, if you ever put those molds to use, let me know...

NorthFloridaFiero (mfs20001@gmail.com) MSG #19, 03-26-2006 10:07 PM
      Alex, you and your dad did an amazing job.
I was the one speaking with you about your engine specifically.
Amazing man.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #20, 03-26-2006 10:09 PM
      Thanks I'm glad people liked it. I still have some plans for it and maybe then, next year she will get the Best of Show unless someone surprises me..

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #21, 03-26-2006 10:21 PM
      Okay now that we got rolling some pictures of the plug after styrofoam. The next layer over was drywall mud. Another of the Home Depot Specials. I think we went through 2 buckets for the whole plug build. here are some of he ribs filled with styrofoam and them 1st layer of MUD!!.::





Edited to fix links to pics....

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #22, 03-26-2006 10:24 PM
      What some of you may notice is that fact that the fenders are different in these original pics. What happened was when it was originally designed I did not think about the whole lamdo door option. Them I changed my mind, and another thing that change was the level of the splitter, on the doors, of the scoops.

CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #23, 03-26-2006 11:09 PM
      (Posting for Alex)



CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #24, 03-26-2006 11:11 PM
      (edit)

[This message has been edited by CoolBlue87GT (edited 03-26-2006).]

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #25, 03-26-2006 11:15 PM
      Thanks Dave i did some searching and found that photobucket actually has a feature that will automatically post it as an image. Thanks again and if I need more help I know you know how things work.



pavo_roddy MSG #26, 03-27-2006 12:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Thanks Dave i did some searching and found that photobucket actually has a feature that will automatically post it as an image. Thanks again and if I need more help I know you know how things work.


HI all,

Great car, and I hope to see more progress pics too!! On that subject, since my pip quit working on me, I now use http://www.myfiero.com/index.php , so if the pics you are posting are on your puter, you can upload images straight to your message your typing from there... It uses a copy and paste method, and is real simple to follow.. Only bad thing is having to run through the process over and over again for multiple images.....



thismanyfieros (toickle74@hotmail.com) MSG #27, 03-27-2006 12:18 AM
      yes beautiful work.. where did u score the gas cap cover for your car???? a+ from me ...tim..

twofatguys (brad@wheatoncomputer.com) MSG #28, 03-27-2006 01:22 AM
      YOU HAVE MY COMPLETE AND UNDIVIDED ATTENTION!
wow, simply wow. Awsome job keeping it under cover.
Brad


jscott1 MSG #29, 03-27-2006 01:37 AM
      Pictures don't do this car justice...It was absolutely beautiful. The bar has been raised again.

Alex, It was a pleasure to meet you and talk to you about your car. I know you must have been tired of answering the same questions about 100 times. It's great to see a young man with such talent and interest in cars.

The future is bright for you, maybe a Plazma replica for your next project??

Curley hurry up with that widebody of yours



CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #30, 03-27-2006 08:50 AM
      Here's some of the finished photo's







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Jake_Dragon MSG #31, 03-27-2006 10:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT:
Do we have any "PIP" experts here ?
I tried to help Alex set pip up, his set up doesn't seem to be working right. It's been so long since I download it. Don't remember how.
Any help would be great.

Its probably his firewall. If it times out that is probably the problem. He will need to add PIP to the exception list.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #32, 03-27-2006 01:47 PM
      MORE...MORE...MORE of the GTR.

Looks pretty cool. I can see where cabinetry skills came in handy. Looks like a great build, Alex. +

Bob



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #33, 03-27-2006 02:20 PM
      Wow... what blast from the past!
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20041015-1-042337.html

I too am watching this thread closely!

GonsaiPK MSG #34, 03-27-2006 02:35 PM
      Wow! Amazing! Big + from me!

Where are those seats from? And is that Archie's dash?

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #35, 03-27-2006 02:40 PM
      The seats are from www.x3racing.com
some of their seats are close to the same size as stock.
They fit well and I love the harness wholes for the 3-4-5 harnesses.


ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #36, 03-27-2006 03:53 PM
      really..i would love to see u put all ur pics in a folder or somewhere so we can see them all complete

revin MSG #37, 03-27-2006 04:33 PM
      Alex,
WOW holy crap dude! You and you dad must have had some hair pullin' tool throwing times with that project!!! lol
Do you have some "hours of work done" ??

So NOW that the car is done...Yeah I know they are never "done"
Have you gotten a girlfriend yet? haha
I know all the work I have done has cost me losing somewhere around 5 girlfriends in the build up period!

I never saw the engine? pics??
Plans for that?................ Just MY thoughts....... dude, 3800SC. I tell ya , it will REALLY make you SMILE ( and get a few GF as well )



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #38, 03-27-2006 04:42 PM
      I think I will do that along with the build thread, the majority of the pictures will probably put in a album type of page so they can all be in one place as well as in this topic.

Hello Revin, I am glad its almost done. There are litle things that will be done to it for next year but i don;t know if I want to disclose that yet. Anyway we have the engine department covered already. Every add on goody is there and she will scream when we get to break her it, afterall she only has about 2-5 miles on her.
Engine::


HI-TECH (centralvalley606@yahoo.com) MSG #39, 03-27-2006 10:26 PM
      bump... can you get better pics of the interor for me? iam not really interested in the exterior but iam droolin over the inside and i dont think i can waite till you get past the body work. lol

revin MSG #40, 03-27-2006 11:50 PM
      Oh cool a fellow SC'er
Yep looks like a fast eng.
2-5 miles!?!? get on it and get some bugs on your paint !! put some miles on it and fly!
Careful though, I have started getting some stress cracks, Dam tork


fiero_silva (dynocompebmxer@hotmail.com) MSG #41, 03-28-2006 01:09 PM
      Wow, simply an amazing car!


avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #42, 03-28-2006 01:15 PM
      Is it me or does the decklid not shut correctly? It looks like it is sticking up. Is this because it hits the snout on the blower? Most 3.8SC installs I have seen notched the decklid so it would shut correctly, other than that it is a beautiful car. Nevermind, I saw in another thread that it was open to be judged. How a bout a picture with it closed all the way?

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slickrick2000 (rhess2000@roadrunner.com) MSG #43, 03-29-2006 12:44 AM
      Unbelievable!!!!

A very nice job you guys have done on that car. That is the nicest flowing widebody I have seen so far.

I have liked the look of the widebody around the tires areas, but hated how they flowed into the door and up towards the top of the car. You guys made it flow exactly the way it should be.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #44, 03-29-2006 11:32 PM
      Well lets continue this with some pics of the front and rear Plug along with some sanded quarters. Once again wood and drywall mud played a large role in the plug making.:









ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #45, 03-30-2006 12:50 AM
      more PLS

ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #46, 03-30-2006 12:52 AM
      hmm... so this is a homebuilt widebody? cool. How is the "widebody" rear end supported when you're working with the mud over the stock body?

Oh wait, I see... I think? You screwed some wood support onto the stock body, along with some wood legs on the bottom? What did you use for mounting points once the fiberglass was done?

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #47, 03-30-2006 01:27 AM
      Man !

If seeing this thread does not get you pumped up and motivated, there is something wrong !

Hey Alex, a couple people have PM me to ask you about your gas door and where you got it from.

Is that from a mitsubishi eclipse ??

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12055 (hutchdutch@aol.com) MSG #48, 03-30-2006 08:41 AM
      Am I to understand that the GTR still has wood structural support underneith?

That's an interesting idea, and it gives you more possiblities than just using old fenders to beef the car up. I'd like to know a little more:
What type of wood did you use (Pressure treated, etc)?
What type of screws did you use to affix it to the outer fiberglass?
What type of fiberglass did you use to build the body over it?
Is it practical for road wear, or only for show?

Sweet ride!

-Ross

jscott1 MSG #49, 03-30-2006 10:46 AM
      Awesome build up!!!

I think it's great that you premiered the car first then showed the build up. For one it was more exciting that way, and two, you would have had a bunch of people giving you unsolicited advice on how to do things and how your way wouldn't work. As ExoticSE has said, you have perhaps inspired a group of people to attempt body mods that may never had thought to try it before. It's completely awesome.

ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #50, 03-30-2006 11:11 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 12055:
Am I to understand that the GTR still has wood structural support underneith?

as I understand it, he just used the wood and mud to make a mold to fiberglass over. I assume once it was done he popped off the fiberglass and mounted it.

?



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #51, 03-30-2006 11:47 AM
      I can tell you already that this is quickly becoming my favorite build up thread!

 
quote
Originally posted by ryan.hess:

as I understand it, he just used the wood and mud to make a mold to fiberglass over. I assume once it was done he popped off the fiberglass and mounted it.

The idea is correct, but the terminology is not - you use whatever materials needed (wood, foam, plaster, drywall mud, etc) to create a full size part known as a "plug". From this plug a reinforced fiberglass mold is made of the part (the more-perfect the plug, the more-perfect the part made appears). The mold is then cleaned and polished - then used to create a lighter, thinner, and usually stronger part - that is then attached to the original body. Depending on the complexity, size, & shape of the part - depends on how it is mounted to the car (if you make a full panel, it theoroetically could use the stock mounting points - if you make a partail panel, it would have to be bonded on and smoothed in like any other aftermarket part).

revin MSG #52, 03-30-2006 12:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

I can tell you already that this is quickly becoming my favorite build up thread!


The idea is correct, but the terminology is not - you use whatever materials needed (wood, foam, plaster, drywall mud, etc) to create a full size part known as a "plug". From this plug a reinforced fiberglass mold is made of the part (the more-perfect the plug, the more-perfect the part made appears). The mold is then cleaned and polished - then used to create a lighter, thinner, and usually stronger part - that is then attached to the original body. Depending on the complexity, size, & shape of the part - depends on how it is mounted to the car (if you make a full panel, it theoroetically could use the stock mounting points - if you make a partail panel, it would have to be bonded on and smoothed in like any other aftermarket part).

Hummmm sounds like SOMEONE should go into the buss. What are your plans Rob?????????



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #53, 03-30-2006 03:35 PM
      There is no wood or plaster under the body. Its like a regular car with fiberglass panels nothing under the fiberglass body, because of that it can be driven everyday, anywhere, anytime in any weather.

The wood , and plaster was taken off it was only used to make the plug to get the molds off of it, then once the glass was layed and molds were made the plug component was removed. So the new panels are exacty like the original parts. The factory mounting locations were used on the front, rear bumpers, fenders, along with stock hood and decklid. The only panels that had to be bonded were the rear quarters, doors, and rockers. Yes any materials needed were used to make the plug, which was full sized. Every panel was made that way. The molds were later made from the plug which was almost perfectly smooth due to the nature of drywall mud, very sandable. The molds were made with 2 layers of weaved, 2 layers of the mesh glass, and then a layer of the structural heavy duty glass. Then like you said MinnGreenGT the molds were cleaned of the plug materials, and polished and coated with a release agent to ensure separation of the actual fibergalss panel from the mold. The panels were made very strong due to the use of different structural fibergalss, and the only ones that were not made to attach to the factory mounting locations were the quarters, rockers and doors. I believe I used the right terminology in my previous statements, and pretty much explained the same thing that you did just now.? There was a plug, a mold, and a part produced until it was done and parts were made.



silver88 (nicholasa80@aol.com) MSG #54, 03-31-2006 01:15 AM
      Awesome job!! I am very interested in trying something like this with mine. Do you have any tips or solutions to problems you ran into while building this? Or do you have a website with a detailed buildup? I think we all could learn a lot from this and all the info you could provide woould be more than helpful.

ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #55, 03-31-2006 01:25 AM
      I'd be interested in measurements... how much wider is it?

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #56, 03-31-2006 03:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ryan.hess:

I'd be interested in measurements... how much wider is it?

I believe he said 4" on each side...or maybe it was 2" on each side, for a total of 4". Hmm... Nevermind, ask him, lol.

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #57, 03-31-2006 09:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by revin:

Hummmm sounds like SOMEONE should go into the buss. What are your plans Rob?????????

LOL - I have a cousin already in the fiberglass business (he builds fiberglass kit planes) - www.teamtango.com
(he also had made molds from my M3-style rockers... but we have yet to actually produce parts yet).

 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

...I believe I used the right terminology in my previous statements, and pretty much explained the same thing that you did just now.? There was a plug, a mold, and a part produced until it was done and parts were made.

Yes - you definitely have a heck of grasp on the process (far more than I ever have)!

fierofierofiero (ryan.tennyson@gmail.com) MSG #58, 03-31-2006 09:39 AM
      Alex, man... I.... You... Geez dude, you're gonna go places...

GoldFiero86SE (dj_dontstop@hotmail.com) MSG #59, 03-31-2006 11:53 AM
      Damn.. you beat me to it... I was going to do something very similar to your quarter panels, thought it would be original

haha, Maybe I still will, since my idea differs for yours a bit, but definatly nice touch on the vents behind the wheel, pulls off the quarter panels really nice.

Good Job.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #60, 03-31-2006 02:23 PM
      The car is 4 inches wider on each side at the rear quarters, and 2 inches wider on each side at the front fenders, the wide effect starts at the corner of the front bumper. This is the build thread so if you want pics ask.

ducattiman (ducattiman@yahoo.com) MSG #61, 03-31-2006 02:53 PM
      dude i want ALL THE PICS U HAVE

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #62, 03-31-2006 03:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:


LOL - I have a cousin already in the fiberglass business (he builds fiberglass kit planes) - www.teamtango.com
(he also had made molds from my M3-style rockers... but we have yet to actually produce parts yet).

I checked out his site... Very reasonable prices, I'm impressed. I think with his kits, you can have a 4-seater plane in the air for less than $60,000. I'll have to remember that, lol.

Oh, and you wanna put those molds to use for me? I'll definately buy a set of rockers from ya, lol.

jscott1 MSG #63, 03-31-2006 11:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:


The molds were made with 2 layers of weaved, 2 layers of the mesh glass, and then a layer of the structural heavy duty glass. Then like you said MinnGreenGT the molds were cleaned of the plug materials, and polished and coated with a release agent to ensure separation of the actual fibergalss panel from the mold.

Do you have a pic of what the molds look like? I'm sure they look like any other Fiberglass molds, but I'm still not clear exactly how one would go about making a mold from scratch.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #64, 03-31-2006 11:07 PM
      Ok lets continue with the pictures. The front bumper plug was completed and them the mold was layed over it.:

Once that was done the molds were cleaned and the new panels were made.:

The front bumper was one piece and then the lower wide chin was made. They were bonded and then the grills were cut out and lips were added all along the inner edges.:




Thats the front bumper story. Feel free to ask away..

Alex

jscott1 MSG #65, 03-31-2006 11:10 PM
      That has to be the fastest response in PFF history thanks.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #66, 03-31-2006 11:18 PM
      Now for the Rear. This will answer the how a mold looks question. Its the outed shape of the desired panel, so its slightly larger that the actual panel. When the glass is layed into it the inner shape is the exact shape of the plug part except without the wood, plaster ect.LOL we don;t need that anymore. The first two are of the mold with the fiberglass bumper layed into it. It is left to overlap a littel to ensure the part is bigger rather that smaller in the end. Its better to leave the ends longer and trim them so you have the same cosistensy of thickness all the way to the endge of the new part, the last picture (3) is of the rear bumper once it was separated from the rear mold. Pics:



Some of you with experience in this may notice there is no gelcoat, well after working with it in the 1st design of front fenders, we did not like the number of air bubbles that would compramise the majority of the edges, even though we made sure to get all the air out sometimes it still showed up in the corners. This way without the gelcoat we ensured that there would be no air bubbles. The second design fenders were the perfect ones we used, they are next...

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #67, 03-31-2006 11:39 PM
      Last for the day. The front fender. First we made fibergalss replicas of original fenders to serve as the inner fender in the new second fenders. They have the F-40 look to them so they needed a inner wall. The inner fenders also had the TA vents in them, they are now not visible but behind the front fender grills they are there. Inners:


Then the flared outer fenders were attached to the inner once to give the opening, which resembled the F-40 fenders:









revin MSG #68, 03-31-2006 11:41 PM
      AHHHH...The size of the shop says it all!
YOU HAVE LOTS OF ROOM !!! i don't;(

I don't think I will ever figure out molds when are you going to have a class?

jscott1 MSG #69, 04-01-2006 12:22 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by revin:

I don't think I will ever figure out molds when are you going to have a class?

I have a better idea how they work now, but the devil is in the details. I am terrible with fiberglass, I could use that class.

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #70, 04-01-2006 09:04 AM
      Very cool Alex. You guys did an awesome job. I have a question for you, though. On the front and back bumpers, you have insets on the sides for vents. How did you pull the parts straight out with those insets?

Bob

revin MSG #71, 04-01-2006 10:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:
I have a better idea how they work now, but the devil is in the details. I am terrible with fiberglass, I could use that class.

Jonathan,
You make the molds, I will do the glassin' !! between the two of us... Hey that chop top is still multi colored ....LET'S PLAY !!!


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #72, 04-01-2006 02:54 PM
      Very nice job GTR...you've got a good eye for design work. Two questions:

1) I noticed you kept the side trim mouldings at the front & rear bumpers, was that due to the necessary mounting screw locations under the trim?
2) When using the drywall mud for the plugs did you have any problems with it cracking when the mud dried?

Congratulations.

Rob
Fiero Interior Conversions
Seattle, WA. USA




FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #73, 04-01-2006 04:43 PM
      If you use enough release once you start separating the molds, the air enters between the mold and the new part and with little convincing it separates even with all the scoops, curves, and bends. Its all about angles, how you start separating it will influence how well it pops out.

The trim sidemarkers were kept because the fenders also attach there and personally I like the Fiero side markers. The drywall mud was layerd a couple times. You might get some cracking if its one very thick layer, but when you apply the 2nd and 3rd times, its like bando, you eventually get a smooth finish with a couple coats. If the 1st cracks sand a little and add another layer, it will fill in the cracks and get smoother with sanding.

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ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #74, 04-02-2006 12:58 PM
      Do you have a top secret source for cheap fiberglass materials? Or was this a really expensive project? I end up buying the gallon of resin at home depot for about $30, and the fiberglass there, which is really expensive, like $5 for I don't know how much - like 3' by 5'... You need 2 packages, one cloth, one mat to do something small like a quarter panel scoop.... let alone huge molds like a bumper + the bumper itself...

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #75, 04-02-2006 01:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ryan.hess:

Do you have a top secret source for cheap fiberglass materials? Or was this a really expensive project? I end up buying the gallon of resin at home depot for about $30, and the fiberglass there, which is really expensive, like $5 for I don't know how much - like 3' by 5'... You need 2 packages, one cloth, one mat to do something small like a quarter panel scoop.... let alone huge molds like a bumper + the bumper itself...

Check eBay... I just bought 100 yards of 38" wide 2.3oz. cloth for $70. You can find some stellar deals like that on eBay, but otherwise, that can turn into a costly project. Especially when you need to buy the heavy cloth to make to molds, but you generally only need a layer or two of that and a few layers of thinner cloth.

ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #76, 04-02-2006 02:36 PM
      Anybody know the weight of the prepackaged stuff you buy at the stores?

3.8T (eurasian1@rogers.com) MSG #77, 04-02-2006 03:28 PM
      wow, pretty sweet buildup and quite the nice ride.
glad to see it has a GO motor in it too.
i luv the side mouldings/door effects, etc!!! awesome!!!
the front bumper is kinda cool, but im not 100% for it tho or some of the rear effects, tho still quite nice.
have u tried to see what the car would look liek without the spoiler? pretty wicked im sure.

great job tho.

[This message has been edited by 3.8T (edited 04-02-2006).]

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #78, 04-02-2006 03:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ryan.hess:

Anybody know the weight of the prepackaged stuff you buy at the stores?

The weights vary on the material, usually labelled on the package. Cloth is weighed by the yard, and CSM(mat) is by the foot.



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #79, 04-03-2006 09:48 PM
      We actually questioned putting on the wing, but yes it did look cool with out it. I am just a wing guy and with the 2.5 inch stands it lookes good enough for me. We also moved it back 1.5 inches.

I guess its time to continue with the pics and process.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #80, 04-03-2006 09:59 PM
      Primer Ohh yeah. We worked so hard to get it to this stage. It was lots of sanding on my dads part and me eyeing it for imperfections and straight lines. Over and over again. Primer:




FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #81, 04-03-2006 10:13 PM
      Last two for today:



Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #82, 04-04-2006 04:39 PM
      Looking amazing, I love seeing how this thing progessed.

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #83, 04-04-2006 04:43 PM
      Your vision and execution of the design are just stunning!

How much pre-planning did you do? (illustrations, sketches, etc).

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #84, 04-04-2006 06:23 PM
      MinnGreenGT
To tell you the truth, when we decided to do a car, I was thinking about it for and had that exact design in my mind before it started. I got it on paper and it looked good, so we choose this one. I have sketches of when we started it, I did different quarter views and although i was happy to start it, in the end I felt unexcited, because to me this car design was old, 2 years. I knew what it would look like before we got it done, there was alot of mental thinking on my part about what would look good and what would be hard to do, so we can do it. I have plenty of sketches of this and some other ideas that I have for parts for these cars. If you would like I could post some, so you can see what the initial idea was and how close it is to that. Other than sketches we had no experience with ay of the materials to build it, we just jumped into it and learned from trial and error.
I guess I'll post some sketches of ideas, and other concepts I have done, but after the lambo-door segement of the car that I am about to do.

In other words it was more execution than planning..LOL
Alex



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #85, 04-04-2006 06:52 PM
      Lambo-doors::
The kit we used was a universal Honda Civic predrilled kit. The great part was that two of the four bolt holes of the honda drilling matched up with the fiero holes on the chasis. We had to weld on a small bracket to redrill the two other wholes and that was it. it bolted right up. This took about 2 days to attach both hinges and 2 more to get all the bugs out and have them completely done. Its not as hard as people make it sound. Pics:
Picture of the hinge with welded tabs for other 2 bolt holes which match fiero pattern:

Close up of welded tabs 1/2" thick:

Spacers made of 1/2" thick metal which go in between hinge and chasis on bottom, washers at the top due to little space needed.:

Hinge attached:

She Moves up and down!!!:


Both doors and I after 2 days of crying and finger smashing form both me and my dad:




1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #86, 04-04-2006 09:45 PM
      Damn... Those doors are amazing. How tough was it to modify those Decah hinges? Are those the universal set?

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #87, 04-04-2006 11:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

I have plenty of sketches of this and some other ideas that I have for parts for these cars. If you would like I could post some, so you can see what the initial idea was and how close it is to that...

When you get around to it... I'd definitely like to see your concept drawings!

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #88, 04-05-2006 09:51 PM
      Okay here are a few.
this one is off the original design for the Fiero GTR widebody we constructed:

This one if of a 2020 car:

Just another sketch:

I have plenty of fiero concept ideas, but those are in my portfolio, I will get them and scan them so i can show them to you all.



Joe Torma (animatedjoe75@yahoo.com) MSG #89, 04-05-2006 11:55 PM
      Beautiful car. Incredible craftsmanship...one awesome car.

Gokart Mozart MSG #90, 04-06-2006 04:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Just another sketch:

I have plenty of fiero concept ideas, but those are in my portfolio, I will get them and scan them so i can show them to you all.

The bottom pic looks like the Tandem 2000 we saw at the GM heritage center. Many pics here: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/054553.html

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proff (fiero128@gmail.com) MSG #91, 04-06-2006 06:40 AM
      Where can i get hinges like that ?



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #92, 04-06-2006 10:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by proff:

Where can i get hinges like that ?

Proff,

i think you missed it above. Alex said they are the Decah Honda civic ones. He got his off of ebay, but you can also just order them from decah.

Most people just get the universal ones and modify them, but Alex proved the Honda civic ones work just as well.

But i think even he will tell you, if possible, get the stronger struts they have available, not the standard ones that come with the kit.

carolinajoe (groovieguy@gmail.com) MSG #93, 04-06-2006 11:04 AM
      Hey Alex,
Love the car and the talent behind it.
Have you thought of entering this contest?
I think you would do real well.

Plus you still haven't said what the Gas Door is from??
Year, Model and where did you get it??

Thanks
Joe

http://speedtv.ign.com/

It is a link to Unique Whips, and I think you would do quite well with your entry.

Enter the Are You Unique contest and score a six day/five night trip to the Unique Whips Shop in Holbrook, New York.
You’ll get to work and chill alongside Will Castro and his team at Unique Autosports.
Guest star in an exclusive webisode of Unique Whips, and get $500 spending cash!
Plus, nine lucky First Prize Winners will receive a Unique Whips jacket signed by Will Castro.

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MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #94, 04-06-2006 11:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by carolinajoe:

Enter the Are You Unique contest and score a six day/five night trip to the Unique Whips Shop in Holbrook, New York.
You’ll get to work and chill alongside Will Castro and his team at Unique Autosports.
Guest star in an exclusive webisode of Unique Whips, and get $500 spending cash!
Plus, nine lucky First Prize Winners will receive a Unique Whips jacket signed by Will Castro.

[opinion]Alex & his Father make the guys at "unique" look like amateurs[/opinion]

BTW - Alex, thanks for the sketch pics... looks like you guys knew exactly where you were going from the start! Look forward to seeing more of your work in the future.

Any plans for a nice "photo shoot"? I'd offer if I were in the area...

Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #95, 04-06-2006 02:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:
[opinion]Alex & his Father make the guys at "unique" look like amateurs[/opinion]

Yeah no offense to anybody, but Unique Whips has got to be the worst car themed show on tv. Throw on some rims and a sound system, and you've got a totally Unique Whip! haha

But anyways, again man, Alex the car is amazing. Any chance of just opening a photobucket or similar account so people can stroll through all the pics?



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #96, 04-06-2006 05:55 PM
      Hey Alex, do you have any pics of you between the door and the car? I'd like to compare the two Decahs. If alll thing being equal, I think the Decah Honda universal might be a better option with little or less work for the Fiero application.




FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #97, 04-07-2006 09:54 PM
      carolinajoe:
The gas door was from a 2003 Mitsibishi Eclipse, I don't think it will work with the stock fiero though, there too much radius on it and it does not match the almost flat surface of the stock fiero location. If you really want a race, or racelook fuel door try one of these:
http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/dsp_parts.cfm?vL1ID=2&vL2ID=41&vL3ID=270&vL4ID=0&vL5ID=0&vtitle=Custom%20Exterior-Fuel%20Door%20Covers&CFID=22728929&CFTOKEN=89164581
They look to have a relatively small radius and would work great, the only thing to check would be the diameter, 5.5" -6" would work.
Curly: I sent you a PM but I'll state it here too, its 38" from the ground to the upper (lower) door edge.
I think if you look at the 1st and 4th picture with the door you can see the wholes that are to the right of the strut mounting locations at the top, if I move it futher to the right it will lift higher, right?.

Thanks
Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #98, 04-07-2006 10:31 PM
      Okay now lets get to the long awaited Archie dash ( Great Products he produces !!!) , I will include all the modifications too:
Stock Archie dash as all of you know:

What I Liked about the dash was the connected center console to the upper dash, but I wanted to make the rest because we didn't think the rest was suitable for our car such as the doors, and center console. We cut the ends off the dash which fit up againt the his doors and fiberglassed the new ends to the dash.:


and then elongated the bottom edge of the dash to reach back futher so we could use the factory mounting locations, and brakets which were salvaged from the original dash.

The next thing was the elongation and degree change in the center tunnel of the dash:


another thing you all may notice is the added fiberglass auxilery gauge pod which was added at the top of the tunnel. I liked the auxilery gauge location and wanted to make it look like it was part of the new dash. When it was covered it looked like it was original.
The last touch was the left AC vent tunnel wich had to be made to accept the F-150 vents.:


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #99, 04-07-2006 10:41 PM
      With the fiberglass done, we had to trim out and fabricate mounting brackets for all the accesories: AC vents, AC unit, Radio, Cluster,Boost Gauge, Power-Port, swithes, Defrost vent, and speaker locations.:






Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #100, 04-07-2006 10:57 PM
      Well, I'll tell you what....... You did a heck of a job building a very nice car.

You will go a long way in the design field, just remember us little guys when you get there.

I've bookmarked this as my favorite build up thread.

Archie



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #101, 04-08-2006 01:35 PM
     

Alex how tall was the chin spoiler you added ?

It looks fantastic, and i am trying to compare it to the height of the Fiero Warehouse closed mouth chin spoiler.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #102, 04-08-2006 04:59 PM
      Exoticse the lip was 2.5 inches tall, I am not sure what the Fiero Warehouse one is.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #103, 04-08-2006 06:04 PM
      Thanks.

Is your car lowered at all ?

Springs ? Coilovers ?

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #104, 04-08-2006 06:20 PM
      The car is on WestCoastFiero coil overs and front lowering springs. Its at 2 inches in the back and 1.5 in front, but don't forget the stagered rim sizes.

CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #105, 04-09-2006 09:32 AM
      From today's newspaper. (Way to go Alex !!!!!)

(details of story printed below)

Here's the detail of the story.

Local high school student rebuilds car, wins big at Daytona competition

When Alex Alexiev's 1987 Pontiac Fiero was rear-ended about two years ago, the insurance company told him it wasn't worth anything and the car couldn't be fixed.

The Port Charlotte High School student didn't believe that, and didn't want to "total" his car. He told them he would "make it worth something," and on March 25, in Daytona Beach, judges agreed that the car -- with a lot of hard work and time from Alexiev and his father, Bobby -- was the best custom-built car at the show.

"No one believed it would ever get done," the now 19-year old senior said. With help from his father, they completely rebuilt the car -- "interior, exterior, everything. It was like a jigsaw puzzle with no instructions, and we had to first make every piece."

The vehicle -- which took about two years, 4,000 hours of labor from Alexiev and his father, and about $47,000 to complete -- took home first place in the custom car category at the 2006 Spring Daytona Beach Car Show on March 24-26.

"We wanted to make something no one else has," Alexiev said, adding that he had never done anything like this before. "No one wrote a book. It was all trial and error."

Alexiev drew up numerous design plans before they handmade the car. His father has a woodworking business, so they recreated the skeleton of the car out of wood before making the panels.

"I found that designs on paper don't always work right on the car," said Alexiev, adding that the Lamborghini-inspired car frame had to be redone. "It taught me a lot, and for college, the thought process and problem-solving of designing cars."

While building the car, Alexiev discover what he wants to major in at college and do as a profession -- transportation design. He says he wants to work at a major car company, like GM or Lamborghini, designing new cars.

"Before (building this car), I was into the whole airplane thing," he said. "But then I came down to Earth."

Alexiev hopes to attend the Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale or the Academy of Arts University in San Francisco, if he can "find the scholarships or a sponsor." After receiving his bachelor's degree, Alexiev wants to continue his studies and receive a master's from the elite Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, Calif., one of the best schools for his chosen profession, he said.

Work on the car kept Alexiev busy, especially combined with high school and his job at the Ford automobile dealership in Port Charlotte. He said that at some points, he couldn't even walk into his room without tripping over an engine or car part.

"I didn't feel tired while working on the car," he said, adding that many nights he would work until 11 p.m. or midnight. He said that despite the long hours on the project, and keeping his grades high in school at the same time, "it was all worth it."

"The dream came true for them," said Alexiev's mom, Maria. "They built the car -- deep inside, I thought they would be finished, one day, because (Alex) was so persistent. He finally did it."

Even his grandparents stayed a few extra days during their visit from Bulgaria -- where the Alexievs moved from in 1996 -- to see the car show.

During the show, Alexiev said lots of people came over and looked at the Lamborghini pearl orange-colored car.

"It was a show stopper," he said proudly. "We built it for ourselves to show what's possible. Some people are scared to take a step or do something, but they just have to try, or they are always going to regret it.

"I'm never going to sell that car."

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #106, 04-09-2006 07:08 PM
      Thanks alot Coolblue
I just saw it about an hour ago and ran out to get 7 newspapers. lol The pictures they used are good, but out of the 10 I gave them they could have choosen some better ones.
I guess I will start on the doors today, and other interior pieces.


ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #107, 04-09-2006 07:17 PM
      "4,000 hours of labor from Alexiev and his father, and about $47,000 to complete "

Now I know why my car doesn't look cool yet.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #108, 04-09-2006 07:54 PM
      Ryan.hess
Time and money are irrelevent, well maybe time, but keep going, you'll get her done.

Alex

HarryG (hg4570@sbcglobal.net) MSG #109, 04-10-2006 09:01 PM
      Alex,
Can we back up a little bit?
I've looked at everything you've posted here, and have a couple questions:

How did you get from your drawings to the shapes used for the ribs on the plug? One of the first pics shows your Dad working on the driver's door area. The rib shown has the door shape on the inner side and your new body shape on the outside. Did you use a profile gage to cut and shape these or were they "eyeballed"?
How did you check each side of the car to make sure they matched? Another profile gage?
HarryG


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #110, 04-12-2006 12:20 PM
      Well to ensure the correct shape and size on both sides, we made the ribs on the right side of the car. and then, from them we made templates, for the left side. It made it easy to do the second side the same because once we were pleased with the right, we just transferred the measurements, but flipped over to the other side.

Many templates and measure five times, cut once was the solution.

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #111, 04-12-2006 01:31 PM
      Okay now for the door panels.
The door panles are modified stock door panels, the arm rests are custom fiberglass replacements and the door latched were from a Nissan Altima 96.
The door panels have a indented area for the arm to sit into. This was insiped my a Gallardo I got to drive, I really liked how there was a little more depth. We made them by cutting out the door panel were the indented area would be. To have a backing we kept the cutouts for the indented wall, so we could make a mold. The angles edges were coverd in the strong foil tape to serve as support for the mold.
This pictures shows the indent :

Side look: Other trim peices are made of wood, covered in leather.

Fiberglass door handle molds being made directly from plug:


After mold was made the new door handles they were made form the mold:

To have the factory mounting locations at the bottom original plastic core was used in new handles:

The handle was moved about 1.5 inches forward so the attachment bracket was relocated on the door.:


The wiring for the lock buttons was lengthened and the switches were put on the door handles as well. The door grab inserts were from an acura integra 92, painted/dyed to match black.

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Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #112, 04-12-2006 04:35 PM
      I was just hoping for a new update, thanks and nice timing haha.

Did you do the upholstery yourselves or did you make the interior and have someone else wrap it up? Looks pretty sweet, I'd love to do something similar.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #113, 04-12-2006 07:36 PM
      The inetrior dash, door panels and center console was upholstered by a Trim Shop, but some of the other stuff I did. The simple things like, firewall panel,and B pillars, A pillars, and the floor trim.
They did a good job, not perfect but its very good.
I think i'll post some after upolstery tonight.

Alex

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #114, 04-12-2006 09:21 PM
      Here we go! The finished interior pictures:















HarryG (hg4570@sbcglobal.net) MSG #115, 04-14-2006 07:34 PM
      Alex,
What type of resin did you use? (polyester, epoxy?)


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #116, 04-14-2006 11:42 PM
      polyester, and lots of it.

Alex

NY_FIERO (timg@expressmart.com) MSG #117, 04-15-2006 07:17 AM
      ALL I Can say is.......................................
wow.


Formula MSG #118, 04-15-2006 11:57 AM
      what kind of seat belts are those? are they 4 point, and if so, where did you attach them?

Thanks!

btw, very nice car!

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #119, 04-15-2006 03:56 PM
      The seatbelts are the 3-point racing harnesses, they actually got attached to the firewall. I don't have a pic, but I will take one for you. What we did was get the bolt in type, the two bottom bolts attach to the stock bottom locations and the top one was attached to the firewall. The thread on the bolts was that same as the lugnuts, so we welded two lug nuts on two brackets, which were 2"x2" and then the plates were welded to the firewall. A small hole was cut out of the firewall cover (carpeted peice, ours we uphoslstered in leather), and bolt it up, took about 1 hr. to do the whole process. I'll get some pics and post them soon.

Alex

Formula MSG #120, 04-16-2006 06:08 PM
      good idea, thanks!

nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #121, 04-18-2006 02:37 PM
      pls check your pm

nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #122, 04-18-2006 03:47 PM
      hey i am wondering what is the contack info for kustom kingdom, i have been searching for the carbon fibre, headliner, thanks

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #123, 04-18-2006 04:27 PM
      I read your PM and am very excited to see where this leads, I want to start producing new and alternative parts for fieros. It woudl be great to keep in contact and see what some of your ideas are and how we could incorporate them together.
The contact info for the Kingdom Kustoms is very simple, if you go to their website:
www.kingdomcustoms.com on the left you will see an order info tab, click on it and it opens a inquiry page, just fill it out, and send it. They were very quick in ther responce and have great products.

Alex

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #124, 04-18-2006 04:54 PM
      Now I will discuss the build up of the motor and the swap:
Engine modifications and Parts:
1998 Grand Prix GTP motor (30K before teardown and reman.)
Forged pistons
ZZP VS Cam
ZZP Billet fuel logs
ZZP 42.5 LB injectors
ZZP Electric Water pump
ZZP 160* drilled themostat
ZZP SS intercooler kit
ZZP High Velocity Throttle body (Stg2)
ZZP Machined intake
ZZP valve cover breather (lol)
ZZP Modular Pulley System (2.8)
WCF Ceramic Coated Headers
WCF Oil Filter Aadapter
WCF Throttle Bracket
WCF Cold air intake (K&N)
WCF High Flow fuel Pump (51psi/50gal)
WCF Flywheel
WCF High Performance Clutch(9 11/16") and disk (iron)
MSD 10mm wire set
Fast Fieros PCM with everything deleted
PR Low Alt mount
PR Filler neck
PR poly motor and trans mounts
DM adjustable poly dog-bone
DM polished allum. thermostat cap/cover
Flowmaster 80 series w/ 2.5"
Custom idler pulley built
that should be it of not, I'll remember later...

Alex
Pictures to follow!

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #125, 04-18-2006 05:41 PM
      oops!

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #126, 04-18-2006 05:46 PM
      Phase 1:
The engine recieved its bath and the block was resurfaced. The beautification process began, hehe:

Forged pistons:

Crank!!

Machined intake:

Parts:
ZZP SS intercooler:



Electric waterpump:




Purple Reign Poly mounts and filler tube, and low mount alt. bracket: (we used smaller pulley)



nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #127, 04-19-2006 05:55 PM
      check your pm pls.

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #128, 04-20-2006 10:50 AM
      I know that electric waterpumps are common on SBC installs, but I don't recall seeing them used on a 3800 before. Is that a block-mounted unit or a remote one?

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #129, 04-20-2006 03:58 PM
      What do you mean by block-mounted unit or a remote one. I mean It mounts directly to the stock location on the block, and with their harness ($15) all you do is plug it in. What I did was sent it to Loyde, so when he did the harness he incorporated it into it, now when the ignition is turned on the waterpump turns on, a type of insurance that it's running.

Alex

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #130, 04-20-2006 04:24 PM
      Now for the assembly and tranny:

Out with the old, it had approximatly 112000, it ran like a champ, but just did not match the looks of the new more modern fiero.

The tranny after new parts and paint:



Machined intake on block:

Finally started assembly on the motor:




Since the electric water pump was istalled inorder to keep more tension on the belt, we had to make a idler pulley mount to stretch that belt between the alternator:
Shots of build up of idler...



After it was installed...

Alex



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #131, 04-20-2006 04:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

What do you mean by block-mounted unit or a remote one. I mean It mounts directly to the stock location on the block, and with their harness ($15) all you do is plug it in. What I did was sent it to Loyde, so when he did the harness he incorporated it into it, now when the ignition is turned on the waterpump turns on, a type of insurance that it's running.

Alex - yes, that answers my question. On some SBC installs, people will use a remotely-mounted water pump (from what I've seen, the pump itself is generally located where the stock battery used to reside)... they then just plump coolant fittings/lines directly to the engine. It's a good space-saver for a tight install, but pretty spendy when compared to a normal electric pump.

I guess I just didn't even really think about the fact that they probably made them for 3800's too, as I don't recall seeing one before!

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #132, 04-20-2006 05:04 PM
      Here everything is ready to go back into the engine bay. I was amazed with the quality of Loyde's work, just flawless. WCF ceramic coated headers.




I have to give recognition to Fie Ro for the cool idea on the carbon fiber valve cover caps, but i made mine from alluminum.
Here is everything in and ready for the first start up.



And after the final touches to finish it off:




The overflow tank was hidden in the left side of the truck behind the enclosures. the tank in the
back is the Heartlandfieros.com vacume cannister with the engraved 3800 SC. A Fiero Store strut bar was also installed.

Alex

88GTFormula (tdbonner2012@gmail.com) MSG #133, 04-21-2006 11:11 PM
      Alex, run this by me again... You made the plug on the car (wood, plaster, etc.) then made your fiberglass molds from that... cleaned off the car, made the parts and thats close to all she wrote for the body...? did you have anything between the panels and the wood / plaster ?

And if you did this again, what would you do diffrent if anything ? (as far as the plug, mold, etc is concerned)

~Tim Bonner



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #134, 04-22-2006 08:05 PM
      88GTFormula
Let me get into more detail, sorry, I just speed through some things sometimes. Okay like you said, made a plug, from which we made the molds for the car. Once the molds were made the wood, plaster, styrofoam, old front fenders, ft bumper, rear bumper, and other original panels were removed so the new ones could be attached to factory stock locations.
In this picture you can see when we began to lay the fibeglass on the plugs to make the molds of the rear quarters:

once the mold was made the plug materials were taken off and the mold was cleaned out and polished.
Here is the part out of the mold not yet cleaned out of release (etc):

All the body panles are direct replacements for the originals, there is nothing under them from the plug, they are like the stock parts (not really hehe..) but fiberglass.
Front bumper mold:

and part pulled from mold, but not sanded or cleaned yet:

The rear was made the same way. The rear bumper is a "direct replacement" with nothing used from the original bumper...mold with fiberglass layed to make actual rear bumper:




Hope that helps explain the process, if not ask again,

Alex



CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #135, 04-22-2006 09:11 PM
      Alex,

Are you comming to the Punta Gorda show tomarrow ( Sunday ) ?

Hope so !!!!

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058937.html


Dave



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #136, 04-23-2006 02:36 PM
      Good to see you Dave, sorry I could not bring the car, but I'll try to get it out to some shows asap.
I guess I will continue with the build-up , now I think I have the suspesion left.

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #137, 04-29-2006 11:39 PM
      Took some better pictures when we took her out recently.

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Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #138, 04-30-2006 12:13 AM
      This thing amazes me more everytime I see it!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #139, 04-30-2006 01:12 PM
     

Can you imagine with this being just his first effort, what his next project will look like ??

I might need some oxygen.

I could never get sick of looking at this car.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #140, 04-30-2006 01:14 PM
      Thanks, the next question I would like to ask is,
Should the wheels be powdercoated Black in the centers ?:
I really like the look but am not sure. I want to keep the lip the same, just coat the centers.
Here are a few of the same body color on the widebody, next to rim options,


These next ones are going to have the black centers with the lip same as the body color,


I want to hear some opinions and if someone could do a photoshop of the two for me that would be great. Pics for photoshop, whichever is easier to photoshop.


If some one could do a photshop of the two styles on my wheels it would probably make the decision easier.

Thanks

Alex


NJ85fieroGT (jesse.schulman@gmail.com) MSG #141, 04-30-2006 01:48 PM
      Looks amazing! Wish I had that much talent



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #142, 04-30-2006 01:54 PM
      Yes, that was originally an archie dash, if you go to page 3 you can see how we modified it, and changed angles, ends etc.

Alex

Looks like you found it. hehe

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fierce_gt MSG #143, 04-30-2006 01:58 PM
      edit: oops quoted the wrong person and the question was already answered


as for the wheel, i really dislike black wheels. just always been my thing, i'd vote no on painting the centres black.

it still amazes me how you made this thing, and yet it's really hard to tell what you actually did. perhaps because you remade every panel they fit so well together, but even with the widebody at first and even second glance you don't really realize that it's wider. it takes far more talent, in my mind, to create something heavily modified that looks stock than something that looks modified

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Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #144, 04-30-2006 02:09 PM
      I'm just the other way around, I'm not a big fan of body color painted rims. I think black and black with polished lip looks good on some cars but not all.

Can't wait to see some photochops, I say either leave them as they are, chrome, or black center polished lip.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #145, 04-30-2006 02:20 PM
      a try on the wheels:

usually I am not a fan of colored wheels but these may look pretty good and matching with your widebody-cutouts !!
...painted pieces of the rim do make it look smaller and bulkier though....you'll want the painted part outwards as much as possible when theyre supposed to look big....anyway did I allready mention your Fiero looks great?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #146, 04-30-2006 02:40 PM
     

I vote for black with the chrome lip.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #147, 04-30-2006 03:47 PM
      Hey Alex....do you have any more pics of the area near the sail panels? Nice detail in this area that some may have over looked. Thanks.

edit: I can't spell, hehe.

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #148, 04-30-2006 04:39 PM
      Madcurl,
I see you are very observant, many people probably missed that part. Well since we added the widebody door panels, with the lambo doors, it was awkward guiding it up since there was no handle. If you look at the picture of the car, the most recent ones, you can see how the original door handle is located under the new door, and on the top we added a grab to give the person somewhere to grab and guide the door up. Some saw it at daytona. Lamborghini did this on the Diablo, so i figured if they did it it must be usefull and a good idea.
Here is a Lamborghini door grab, and ours below.



Here's our version of it. hehe:







88White3.4GT MSG #149, 04-30-2006 04:40 PM
      I'd powder coat the wheels.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #150, 04-30-2006 05:01 PM
     

Alex was this a panels off paint job ?

Do you have any pictures or plan to show any pictures of the car during the painting process ?

Would be cool to see it at the lambo dealership.


Boosted2003 (boosted2003@cfl.rr.com) MSG #151, 04-30-2006 06:22 PM
      Where did you get the sail panels? from or did you make them?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #152, 04-30-2006 07:30 PM
      IMO I'd go with your first pic...the chrome lip and black center. That look will no doubt be around for a very long time and will quiet the car down some allowing viewers to take it all in and makes your Fiero look "serious and agressive."

The second pic are "over-done." First off, the rim spokes are too big for the car and the painted orange lip are too phat. I've seen better ones on a Lamborghini Murcieo'logo with the same color but her outer lip or edge was painted and not the entire 3-piece. The only good thing about the second ones is: "If your rims are stolen, you'll find them in no time."


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #153, 04-30-2006 08:20 PM
      Madcurl,
How about if the wheels I have are in that color scheme. Black multispoke Evos
with Pearl orange lip. I actually wanted my rims to be colored.
Anyway I still can't decide, I like both.
I'll post some pics of the paintting process Exoticse.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #154, 04-30-2006 08:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Madcurl,
How about if the wheels I have are in that color scheme. Black multispoke Evos
with Pearl orange lip. I actually wanted my rims to be colored.
Anyway I still can't decide, I like both.
I'll post some pics of the paintting process Exoticse.


In order to see just what's out there, I'd pay a visit to Lambo-power site. As I mentioned, there is a Murcieologo (orange) w/massive rear Maya rollers and the center is painted black, lip is painted black, and the edge is painted orange. From what I've read, she recieves some negetive remarks from other lambo owners concerning them. There is also another Murc with black centered and blue phat lip'd rims. Maybe Tony could post a pic because I can't...I'm at work, hehe.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #155, 04-30-2006 08:51 PM
      Massive blue rollors???

This images is larger than 100K. Click to view.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=FbGverN1un4&search=lamborghini



perry rhodan (fiero_gtr@hotmail.com) MSG #156, 04-30-2006 09:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:




@FieroGTRwideboby: Very beautifull work!!! Incredible! It help me to make the plunge into my own "simple" body mod project. I was a little bit afraid, but you're telling to every one with your Fiero that its possible with care, time and patience.

By the way, where did you bought or where can I find these "twin" round headlamp? I think these are very good looking replacement for the rectangular one on the Fiero. And are they a direct fit or need modification ?

Thanks...and Good work again!

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #157, 04-30-2006 09:42 PM
      Sorry I will interept the wheel input for 1 sec for the paint process which Exoticse requested.
The unique charcteristics of a pearl paint job is where the "panel-off" paint job gets complicated, The painter Fransisco Vilalba of Ultimate Motors in Longwood, Florida, requested that most of the body be together, not bolted down, but parts nect to parts. The reasoning behind that is when spraying the pearl you don't want to have a variation between the pearl amount, for example between the hood, fenders and ft bumper. The panles that were on the car during the paint were ft and rr bumpers, doors, and rockers. The hood was in the front where it should be but lifted liek it was floating 2 inches above the fender level. The headlight doors were separate, the truncklid and sails, spoiler were also separate. The body panels were placed on the chasis but not bolted down during paint.
After the car was primered twice and wetsanded Phase 1 was done:

Phase 2
Once taped off the car got 2 coats of the special sealer that gives the car a single color starting point and also covers up inperfections, if present:


Phase 3
Cuts were made to ensure paint gets everywhere jams, lips, under doors, etc:

Phase 4
The car gets the color finally. Fransisco sprayed 3 coats color everywhere:



Phase 5
The 2 coats pearl sprayed:

Phase 6
The car received 3 coats of clear to top it off and guarantee a deep shine. The mornig after being baked during the night.





Hope that gives you an idea of the process and time involved. I beleive it we started aroung 4pm masking off, then by 6pm we had it all masked and ready for sealer. By 8pm sealer was done and cuts ins were applied, 10pm color was sprayed 3 times, 12am pearl was almost done, 2 everything was sprayed (clear) and done, the paint job baked overnight.

The sail panels are from MsLoriFiero aka Lori A Casto, they have stuff in the mall for sale often, great panles and are actually curved like the stock windows.

Thanks and now back to our regular broadcast programing: wheels???

Thanks
Alex



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #158, 04-30-2006 10:00 PM
      perry rhodan,

Sorry to let you know we made those using the stock buckets, they were inspired by the ones that are available from Germany, but their price was what inspired me to make ours ourselves.
You can also do this, its not that bad, just alot of trimming and fitting. They are the hella bulbs, modified stock bezels and heavily modified buckets.:
Stock Bucket trimmed for Hella bulbs:

With stok bezel glassed in then cut out bulbs installed, note they must be adjustable for driving purposes:


Both done and shine:

Thanks
Alex (Let me know if you are interested in a set, I can see if we could make some)


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #159, 05-01-2006 01:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Thanks, the next question I would like to ask is,
Should the wheels be powdercoated Black in the centers ?:
I really like the look but am not sure. I want to keep the lip the same, just coat the centers.
Alex


Example of a "Custom" rollers





FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #160, 05-01-2006 07:38 PM
      WOW I really like that one.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #161, 05-01-2006 08:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

WOW I really like that one.


That's the route I'd go if I had that kind of money. There's another Murc with a complet orange 3-piece and black center but IMO this the one pictured hear is perhaps the best and daring way of roll'n very hard in CA.


It may be hard to pull off using the current rims you have. I think that by having a phat lip pulls the eyes away from the painted edge allowing a person's jaw to drop. I know cause mine is still on the floor, hehe.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #162, 05-06-2006 07:34 AM
     

Hey Alex,

Did you and your father do all the paint prep ? Was the painter satisfied with your work or did he have to do anything extra ?

I see you were present during the actual painting, did you learn anything about painting techniques ?

If so do you anticipate trying to paint your own car in the future ?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #163, 05-09-2006 06:27 PM
      Exoticse,
We did all our own prep work. There was no prep by anyone else.
I know the painter and the work he does, last year he painted Queen Elizabeths
white/pearl Rolls in their Longwood body shop. So I knew he would not touch it if it was not perfect.
We did things so slowly when it came to prep to ensure that everything was as good as possible.
The paint, filler, bondo, etc was all done by us, wetsanding was a must as well.
Man I learned so much about the technique and am glad we were present. The complexities of a pearl paint job as so fine only the pros can do it and make it look awesome. He had so many specific ways to spray different areas and angles of the car. Well my father used to paint his own cars back in Europe and has the precess down, but with this $7,000 of paint and thinners, ect, any mistake costs you a small car loan.lol He as well as I was happy to have someone so profesional and experienced to do this for us for free. We did paint some of the parts ourselves, wing, grills, interior trim peices, etc.
Thanks for your interest and lets see some pics of your car! I am still interested.

Thanks
Alex and Bobby


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #164, 05-14-2006 10:25 PM
      Okay, back to the topic. I have been asked to explain the hood scoop project.
I will say that although we did alter the design and did not follow exact measurements the general
idea came from here:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20041015-1-015543-3.html
We did use wood to make the templated for the scoop which was later done in fiberglass,
and if you can see our hood scopp opens up more as it flows up. The depth was also altered to actually be functional. Most of the hood scoops are great but they aren't deep enough, ours opens and the radiator and fan are visible.

The posted topic above is a perfect representation of how to, and pretty much its up to the builder to decide measurements of opening etc.

Here is the hood cut with the wood peices cut to shape and test fitted before beign made of fiberglass: disregard the center peice I was experimenting to see what it wuld look like..hehe




Once that was done the top and bottom was fiberglassed and smoothed out. Thats one thing that bugs me a lot people sped so much time on the visible side that they forget or don't do the bottom.Why?



and then the primer:




The bottom was painted the stock charc/black (sorry pics had to be lightened to see contours of hood):





Hope that helped and tommorow I will also cover the short, build on the decklid.
Thanks for your comments and interest.
Alex



FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #165, 05-14-2006 10:36 PM
      Did you have to trim the front compartment for this vent?

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #166, 05-15-2006 12:02 PM
      Yes I had to remove aout 1 inch of the rounded area where the spare sits. I'll try to find a picture.
But once it was covered with the wetherstriping it looks stock.
Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #167, 05-15-2006 01:48 PM
      Here are a couple to see where the front tub are was cut.





So once it was cut and then the wetherstriping was put back on it looks stock.

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #168, 05-27-2006 11:08 PM
      I need to update this... stay tuned this weekend she is the star of a photoshoot.
and I'll take a pic of the new plate it reads:

WAWUZAT


Alex

hehe... forgot about the suspension, breaks and decklid scoop. look out for those too.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #169, 05-28-2006 11:23 AM
     

Sounds good.

Absoluetly love this thread. Keep it coming Alex !


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #170, 05-28-2006 01:28 PM
      Okay, after reviewing some of the build photos I realized I missed some details in the engine department. So here we go The high flow fuel pump from WCF was put in and tank was cleaned and retainted along with most other brackets and underbody associated parts.

Next when the engine was put in, I don't know if other people have done this but what we did was use the stock 2.8 engine strut which is mounted to the cradle on the 3800 SC. The stock bracket was relocated and a small U bracket was fabricated to be bolted to the engine block, with the strut on there and the dogbone on top the motor is solid witht the Purple Reign poly motor and trans mounts and Darell Morse alluminum cradle mounts, both great products.

We also decided to keep the stock AC, fuel tank and firewall sheild, it took some cutting and bending but it works and provided the stock looking firewall with the heat protection. We had to tim out some room for the new AC conversion which mated the 98 3800SC and 87 2.8 AC systems. A local AC shop took both and made one from them, it took a couple hours but it worked out great.

When Loyde at Fast Fieros did the computer reprogram he eliminated everything, from secondary O2, Purge, EGR, waste gate, speed limmiter raised to 260mph, Fuel Cutoff and Idle Speed
MAF, Injectors and Power Enrichment, Spark Advance and Knock Retard,Torque Management and DTC's deleted, AutomaticTransmission Codes deleted, Fan Temps and Key-Off Fan Run Time
Speedometer Recalibration. The only thing left was the primary O2 and them was also made to look as if stock. We trimmed a small hole and used a rubber inlay to protect the wiring when wiring goes throgh the heat shield.



Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #171, 05-28-2006 02:13 PM
      Now for the Suspension and breaks. hehe. The BIG break kit is the West Coast Fiero 13" x 12" vented, cross-drilled, slotted kit. We were satisfied with parts, and the fit and finish. The only thing that slowed us down was the lack of E-brake instructions. The List of modifications is a follows:
WCF 13"x12" vented cross-drilled slotted rotors
Fiero Store braided break lines
WCF New machined front hubs and wheel bearings
New rear hubs & wheel bearings
FS 1" heavy duty say bar
FS stabalizer bar
FS struts
FS shocks
FS full poly suspension kit
FS 87 heavy duty rear sway bar
WCF rear coil over kit 400# springs
WCF front lowering springs
Shortened bump stops 3/4"
The rotors:



Bump stops were shortened when the suspension cross member was disassembled and modified off of the car. The shock towers on the lower control arms were also moved back to make room for turm radius of new big break kit. Where the bump stops were shortened 3/4".


The front with new stabalizer bar, sway bar, etc:



New rear hubs put on after new whell bearings and poly bushings:


WCF Rear coilover kit assembled with Fiero Store new struts:



Front and rear suspension was put together and break assembly began:





Caliper brackets for new 13" front rotors:
left

right


With all the modifications I can say the car feels like its on rails, very stiff and tons of vibrations due to the solid suspension, engine, and cradle alluminum mounts. But my favorite if the huge breaks visibl behind the 17" x 18" wheel combo and the stance.





Alex




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #172, 05-28-2006 02:28 PM
      13/12 combo Sounds good to me!

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #173, 05-28-2006 02:49 PM
      Hey Curly good to hear from you..
Didn't you have some 13" x 13" combo? you mind letting me in on the price,
company, and some pics?

Thanks
Alex


88White3.4GT MSG #174, 05-28-2006 03:09 PM
      Alex,

Will you start making kits for your light set-up? I would be very interested in a set like that


-Mark


CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #175, 05-28-2006 03:13 PM
      Hey Alex

Just awesome !

Glad you took the time to document the whole build process.

Dave


jscott1 MSG #176, 05-28-2006 03:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

The rotors:


Alex


Alex, the level of detail on your car continues to amaze me. Your underbody is nicer than the body on most cars.

Are your rotors and suspension components painted body color? Or is it red? It's hard to tell from the photos. I'm trying to decide on painting my rotors. Thanks.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #177, 05-28-2006 03:28 PM
      The rotors are painted fire engine red to match the poly, red sawy bars, and tank etc.
Thanks for the compliments again. I was asked about the lights multiple times and feel that if there
was some serious interest we could make the headlights. They are a direct bolt on and all you have to do is splice on the wiring for the dual Hella bulbs.

Thanks,
Alex

I still have to cover the short decklid build.hehe


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #178, 05-28-2006 04:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Hey Curly good to hear from you..
Didn't you have some 13" x 13" combo? you mind letting me in on the price,
company, and some pics?

Thanks
Alex


Pm sent. A link for 13" rotors http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/046552.html


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #179, 05-28-2006 05:56 PM
      After some digging I found a picture of the Widebody before the
widebody. As you can see it was a 87 GT which I drove
shortly before the face-lift began. It belonged to a local Pontiac
Dealership owner Mr. Marlow at Marlow Werner Pontiac in
Punta Gorda Florida.The car sat at his house until we asked
him if he was interested in selling it.Now I'm glad we did.
Heres a little before and after.


Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #180, 05-29-2006 10:21 PM
      Yeah... I' so happy!
I got some pics of the car today with the new plate; Check it out.

One of my dad and the car. He did not want to pose but I convinsed him it would look COOL.

Okay now spot the difference and which do you like best?


Nice Motor shot.

She tried to fly away, but we had her wings clipped. hehe.


Thanks for looking.
Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #181, 05-29-2006 10:27 PM
     
Nice pics.

The difference ?? One picture has a wing and the other no wing.

I prefer the wing, no question.


F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #182, 05-29-2006 10:36 PM
      HEY! That's my DAD! He's got a lot more grey in his hair than I remember but I'd know that face anywhere! I've been looking for him for years!!!



BTW, I love the vent thingies on the sides of the rear taillights, great touch. Tell Dad that he needs to come back home and help me with my F-I-E-R-O! He can use the back allimony for parts and paint on mine. If he doesn't I'll tell my mom and then the shididt will really hit the fan!



1fastcaddy (ku_ace@yahoo.com) MSG #183, 05-29-2006 11:46 PM
      Yes, I also prefer the wing. I love your car! On the rims, I am kinda partial to black with a chrome lip.


Future MODS



fierce_gt MSG #184, 05-30-2006 01:24 AM
      ok, now i'm starting to understand how you spent so much money on this car. there's a lot more going on than you see at first. i'm more impressed, and more jealous, every time i come into this thread!

dmancheno MSG #185, 05-30-2006 07:23 AM
      Very entertaining. More please.



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #186, 06-27-2006 05:59 PM
      I really need to update this thread, keep alert pics and possibly video comming soon!

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #187, 06-27-2006 06:57 PM
      Okay some new things:

I resently finished a 24"x36" Photoshop banner/poster of the car. It features the car, and in faded opasity different views and the list of modifications. I really like photoshop and have been taking classes the last two years of High School. The significance of the 04 and 06 of the tire thread is the duration of the build, and the WAWUZAT is the "name" of the car which evolved from concept to reality. hehe
A couple pictures:






I don't think I have a completed shot of the front compartment posted, it also shows the notch which the tub needed to accept the deeper hood scoop.


The new racing seats with the CF Kingdom customs accents. They have great products.


I know there is always the talk about widebodies and I just wanted to show what a true widebody is from 2" and up on eash side.... 1" is a flare lol. This is the body at its widest at 4".



And two of my favorite views.... the source of testosterone:

and the elegant widebody lines accompanied with the steam-roller tires.


Last of my recent projects was the creation of a CD which contains all of the build pictures from day one. The Case also got a nice treatment so as never to forget the contents of the CD.
Front: Contains name and award recieved at Daytona 2006.

Rear: Lists the web links where car is discussed or appears.

Interior: List of modifications ...engine...

The interior without CD.... shows the interior...lolo..heheh!


Thanks for stopping by and stay tuned for that video and pics!

Alex



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #188, 07-04-2006 12:55 AM
     
Looking forward to the video.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #189, 07-07-2006 08:14 PM
      The car was in the issue of Domestic Driver for July/August. They did a great job on the magazine, and I am glad I now also have a year of free access to check out other cool rides. I would post the whole article but need to ask permission from DD first, as to keep it exclusive.

Thanks
Alex


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rotten (kcfreeloader@hotmail.com) MSG #190, 07-07-2006 08:20 PM
      All i can say about your car is AWSOME!!! Keep up the good work!

jscott1 MSG #191, 07-07-2006 10:35 PM
      I like the way you have the front of the car on the front, the back on the back, and the interior on the inside. Cool. I need to compile all the pics I've taken on my car, but I'm afraid it won't fit on one CD at this point.

Looking forward to seeing your car at Daytona Next year! (D7 or Bust)


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #192, 07-07-2006 10:53 PM
      Your are right about fitting alot of pics on the CD I am up to 3 CD's and 3 covers now, you know how they multiply in numbers. I figure I have atleast 2000 pictures form start to finish. But its a great way to store and always remember great experieces and times.

About Daytona 2007, I want to be there and probably will be but now that I'm going to school in
Pasadena California, I will be vey far way, exactly 2618 miles. Since I am the fiero nut in the family I am usually the one who deals with shows etc, so now I will have to be split between the car, school, and 3000 miles. I am a little bummed about the unknown as of now, but we will see, there is still time till Daytona 2007. But I can tell you one thing if I come it will be for the sole purpose of spending some time with great people, cars and music... no judging for me. To much contraversy for my taste. Now I just want to enjoy the car and the conversations, rather than spending the whole time making sure its spotless. I mean how much more clean can I get it its all new..hehe. Anyway I will keep you all in the loop and post often. Next the car gets a new home.. at home. The garage is fully climate controlled now with carpeting and drywall almost like a race garage. hehe The car will be in the cool un-humid environment on carpet, the best way to preserve it. And stay tuned for that video I promissed too...

Alex


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #193, 07-16-2006 02:00 PM
      Hmm...who's widening out???


CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #194, 07-16-2006 06:52 PM
      Alex,

Did the auto transport company give you a quote yet ?

You mentioned Mr Marlow, I once showed him my 87GT, he almost cried, he really liked it.

http://images.fieroforum.com/pffimages/Dealer_shot_4.jpg

I'm really excited about your future in automobile design. I wish you great successful careerer.

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AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #195, 07-16-2006 07:24 PM
      I would go the no wing look on that car. It looks exotic. An 80s Fiero wing doesn't. Just the lip looks great.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #196, 07-16-2006 07:32 PM
      Dave I did not get a quote yet, he will give me a call on monday. Mr Marlow was cool
I would like to go see him and give him a better detailed explanation of the process and see
his reactions. How do I contact him??

As for the wing I feel it could go both ways, but for now it will stay on.

Curly how's it going, you must be up to something to be winking in you post.
hehe ??? spill the beans!

Alex


CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #197, 07-16-2006 10:07 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

.....Mr Marlow was cool. I would like to go see him and give him a better detailed explanation of the process and see
his reactions. How do I contact him??

Alex


I guess give the Pontiac dealer a call to get a current number. Let them know you want to let Mr Marlow see the car he sold you & how it's a show car now. I'm sure he'd love to see it. I'd love to be there when he get a look at it. It will blow his mind !

Dave


Saxman (andrew@thecleavers.net) MSG #198, 07-16-2006 10:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

The car was in the issue of Domestic Driver for July/August. They did a great job on the magazine, and I am glad I now also have a year of free access to check out other cool rides. I would post the whole article but need to ask permission from DD first, as to keep it exclusive.


Alex, I hope you didn't mind the corny title on your article. I also suggested your license tag as the title, but I guess Jonathan liked the corny one better. Thanks for submitting an easy article to edit! The car is beautiful.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #199, 07-16-2006 11:26 PM
     

Transport ? hmmm ,... where is the car going ??

Finish that video yet alex ?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #200, 07-20-2006 07:30 PM
      No problem on the title, I feel it was witty. hehe
The moving company is for my car the 88 GT which will some be zooming
around the streets of LA and surrounding areas. I am off to Cali for my Transportation
design degree at The Art Center Colleg of Design. I wonder if we have many owners
there? Anyone know?

Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #201, 07-20-2006 07:46 PM
      Alex,


Madcurl is in Cali, in Half moon Bay.

Not sure on the distance to LA.

Now that would be scary if you and he got together to swap ideas.

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rotten (kcfreeloader@hotmail.com) MSG #202, 07-21-2006 09:15 AM
      Hey FieroGTRwideboby
I sent you a pm
Such a sweet car. Wish I had one that looked that good!


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #203, 07-27-2006 07:17 PM
     


Alex,

Not sure if you mentioned it or not, but how were the new seats connected to the car ?

Did you use the original fiero railings, or did u have to fabricate or buy something ?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #204, 07-31-2006 09:46 PM
      The rails that were used where the stock rails. The new seats were just as wide, so I just redrilled the wounting holes on the rails to match the seats holes and bolted them up. It was so easy and its fully functional just like stock.

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #205, 08-17-2006 06:41 PM
      Okay I just got the time to sit down and do a little writeup on my visit to Socal.

First off let me say LA and the surrounding areas are AWESOME! Maybe its mee but the weather is great, girls are great, cars are great, and people are very polite. I was mainly in the Pasadena area visitong the campus of the school I will attend soon. (Aug 29) The Pasadena area is beautifull, many trees, hills, just an overall great moderatly big town/city.

My ventures there did not stop at visiting the campus. I went to downtown LA, Hollywood, Inglewood Beach, Huntington Beach, Glendale, Beverly Hills, Rodeo Dr, Hollywood Blvd. etc. But the highlight of my whole visit was the special trip I made to the one person who really get us car guys very excited...........CHIP FOOSE.
On friday I visited Foose Design and got to tour his shop, see a couple of the Overhaulin cars, meet a couple of the guys, see some of his projects, and an upcomming car for overhaulin being built. Let me say the guy look like a very generous and humble man on TV and he truly is. When I arrived he was headed to lunch in his black Monte Carlo SS, well he was cool enought to stop and talk to us a little. The cars they biuld are top notch and I can't belive I got to be in the presence of such an Iconic automotive designer and builder. So I know you want to see some pics so here they are:

Some of the sights:


Infront of the Art Center College of Design


Hollywood!!!

Outrageous Gas Prices!

Hollywood Blvd. (El Capitan Theather)

Stopped at Playboy Mansion ( No......it's the Wax Museum)

Beverly Hills


The Famous Rodeo Drive.



Now for the Coooool Rides I managed to see.. (missing are two Gallardos that flew by at ungodly speeds on the 405)
On the way to Orlando, Nissan Skyline GTR R32(?)

Hollywood Blvd., Ferrari Testarossa 90's


Rodeo Dr. Ferrari F430 brand spankin new, Aston Martin, and a Rolls Phantom





Beverly Hills Rent a Car.


Hollywood Blvd. Detomaso Pantera

I-Hop , Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster Pearl Orange (sorry a little dark)



Last But surely not least CHIP FOOSE !!!! (In all the excitement I did not take any pics of him )

Infront of Foose Design

Their paint booth

Charlies Box ( from American Hot Rod)

Inside shop

Couple projects for customers:

(Race car being built)


Engine Cover and center console for new overhaulin car,


One of his greatest accomplishments, winning the riddler award at Sema.

Overhaulin Mustang ( this was built for the guy in a wheel chair) It was there for a new center console addition.







The Stainless Foose Chopper


The upcomming Bel Air which will be on a show of Overhaulin




In the office was an original sketch he did for the new Unique Performance Camaro which will be built in collaboration with Foose Design.

I did get a pic with Shane from Overhaulin

And a couple doors down in Lanzini which they sometimes use on the show.


Sorry for such a long post but I know you all will enjoy the pics. I had a great time and will visit again. Now I can't wait to move out there. I think I might as for an application next time. lol. Would that be something or what?

Thanks for looking and hope you guys and gals enjoyed it.

Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #206, 08-17-2006 07:42 PM
     
Man Alex that is fantastic !

Foose is incredible, the man is sooooo ridiculously talented that it should be a crime for one man to posses all that skill.

Didn't hurt that he grew with a father who was nearly equally as talented.

As far as the application ,..hey dude it could never hurt ?? Even if you got to just hang around the shop and help out for free would be an invaluable education to me ?

Good luck on the move and school.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #207, 08-17-2006 07:54 PM
      That's also my opinion, I would do it for free too. Like you said, just to be around a man like him, and be surrounded by some of the most experienced and known biulders would be a honor. The thing that separates him from all the other shows and builders is the passion and hearthfelt effort he and his crew put into a strangers' car. He is one of the people I respect most for his skill and giving nature.


Alex.

(Right now I am trying to get the red 88GT ready for the move. It will get trailered there but I want to replace things like plugs, wires, ig coil, distributor car and rotor, fan switch 180*, thermostat, KN filter, vented cross-drilled slotted rotors, O2 sensor, wipes, oil change, etc... I am so anxious)


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #208, 08-17-2006 10:29 PM
      Here are some of the parts. All are from the Fiero Store and everytime I order from there I am amazed at their service and quick shipping. Another plus is the PFF discount they have for us, it really shows how much they support the Fiero community.


The zinc plated rotors came in today. I figured I would give some feedback on them. They look great and are not expensive at all. I got them shipped for 145.00 to my door. This is the guys auction and I would recommend him for the non stock alternatives. Great Product!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-PONTIAC-FIERO-FRONT-REA-R-D-S-ROTORS_W0QQitemZ170019519138QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33564QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Alex


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #209, 08-18-2006 01:30 AM
      Alex,
nice Pics, did you get a chance to show Chip pics of your work? I'm sure he would be impressed with your work, and would see how you would be an asset to this organization.


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #210, 08-18-2006 07:58 AM
      What an awesome visit Alex. I'm jealous...One small correction, though...The Riddler is awarded at the Detroit Autorama, not SEMA. Very Cool.

Bob


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #211, 08-18-2006 06:25 PM
      RCR thanks for the correction. Its good to have my facts straight.
I did not get to show him the car, but as I said I will surely visit a couple
more times and eventually he will see the car we built..


Alex


DotTC MSG #212, 08-18-2006 07:50 PM
      beautiful car... Though I'm not too keen on the front with the large openings for the fog lights/turn signals... but overall it looks sweet. I'd like to see it without the black moulding though looks awesome though, true work of art... A+



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #213, 08-26-2006 04:13 PM
      Just an update, I recently sent in my CD of images to the Fiero Store 2007 Calander. Is anyone else doing so. I was hesitant because I was not sure of they only like to see stock cars or wild customs too. Anyone know? Anyway heres some more pics:
This is one of my favorites, it was during the assembly stage. It really shows off the width of the car.


Two interior shots:



Some of my favorite angles.




Thanks for looking,

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #214, 08-26-2006 05:18 PM
      I also forgot a couple new finished projects I was working on. Back when the project began I did a photoshop render of the car and now I found it. Next to it is the actual vehicle for camparison.




Another of the projects was a nicely framed 24 x 36 banner of the Domestic Driver article it was in.



Also a couple side profile shots which came out in great detail:





Once again Let the madness continue...

Alex

Edit;; I just noticed that my 85GT is also in the comparison pic above which
makes the list...85GT, 87GT WideBody, 88GT.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #215, 08-26-2006 09:28 PM
      Nice bike. Hey alex, don't get side tracked.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #216, 08-26-2006 09:44 PM
      What do you mean??

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #217, 09-06-2006 05:59 PM
      BUMP!!!


Wait am I alound to bump myself?

I made it out to cali 2751 miles. Drove it straight to texas 3 hours sleep and then the rest to LA.
Started 3pm thurs. arrived 6pm. Sat.

The cool part in Texas we passed a Mercedes SLR McLaren in the E350 box van. hehe And in LA on the 110
a roadster Gallardo caught up to me looked me over, waved and shot off right as we were under a bridge, man was it loud.

Thanks and sorry for getting off topic but I am so excited to be here.

Alex


GKDINC MSG #218, 09-06-2006 06:09 PM
      Nice to hear from you Alex, Good to know you had a safe trip. Is the Widebody with you? If not maybe Dave and I could take it out for a ride just to keep things working.
Good Luck to you keep us posted
Gary


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #219, 09-07-2006 01:42 AM
     

Congratulations Alex,

Glad to see you made it there safe and sound.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #220, 09-07-2006 12:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

BUMP!!!


Wait am I alound to bump myself?

I made it out to cali 2751 miles. Drove it straight to texas 3 hours sleep and then the rest to LA.
Started 3pm thurs. arrived 6pm. Sat.

The cool part in Texas we passed a Mercedes SLR McLaren in the E350 box van. hehe And in LA on the 110
a roadster Gallardo caught up to me looked me over, waved and shot off right as we were under a bridge, man was it loud.

Thanks and sorry for getting off topic but I am so excited to be here.

Alex


I remember those days, driving straight through with little or no sleep, hehe. There's a Coast Run next month. Pm Dale (Songman) for details.

Heads-up: Be careful with your car in CA.



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #221, 09-29-2006 05:54 PM
      BUMP...

Nothing new to report, just miss the car.

Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #222, 09-29-2006 06:37 PM
     

Hey Alex,

Did you ever get that video completed that you mentioned previously in this thread ?


Dragon1 (brian1@vampirethemasquerade.com) MSG #223, 09-30-2006 11:10 PM
      Beautiful car, I really like the color......and the bodywork....and the doors....and the....and the.....
"FANTASTIC JOB"
Do you remember what year the Civic door hinge kit was from. I'm finding there are two kits,
one for pre 2000 and one for after 2000.
thanks,
Dragon1/Brian


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #224, 10-02-2006 02:03 PM
      I think its the pre 2000. The only difference between the specific kits and the universal is the predrilled holes. I think the universal would work as well. Make sure to specify the strut strenght you want. The stronger the better.


Alex


Dragon1 (brian1@vampirethemasquerade.com) MSG #225, 10-02-2006 03:12 PM
      Thank you...

Dragon1/Brian


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #226, 10-12-2006 11:50 PM
     

Alex,

Did you ever consider going with the 3M invisible shield with that high dollar paint job ?

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Automotive/OEM/Solutions/Exterior/Protective_Film/

A lot of lamborghini and Ferrari owners have this installed to protect against rock chips and such. Supposedly very good stuff.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #227, 10-13-2006 05:31 PM
      Tony,

I did just never got around to it. I also know that they have 5 year waranty on their products (?).
From one angle it is great, but what happens after the 5 years, I think the paint damage coverage is only 1000. Another issue arose is that I did not know if they did custom jobs. Since the car is a one off the whole front, rockers, hood quarters, a rear bubmper would need a custom template to be made. I did not go as far as getting them to come out and do one, but I can only imagine what it would cost. If you happen to know my questions please elaborate because we would like to preserve the paint as long as possible.

Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #228, 10-17-2006 07:42 PM
      Off-Topic update,

School is going great and figure I would post my recet concept. A 3 wheel BUSA 1300 CC Twin Turbo 3 seat machine. We had final presentation monday and here were a couple images.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #229, 10-17-2006 07:53 PM
      I seen a similar concept at the 2005 SEMA show. It too used three wheels. I took pictures too.

wayman (paulignozza@earthlink.net) MSG #230, 10-17-2006 10:19 PM
      Alexbroski:
Guess Who...?
Last week i picked up a 88GT Silver painted it and rock and rolled a few things and sold it in 20 Min on HWY 41 to a 70 year old couple who had no idea what they bought... OH tje enginr is in the Back...?"little old Couple from Port Charlotte"...ha Sweet car i think there was only 1200 silver GTs in 88...?
WE took another hair raising Bonehead ride in the woods at too fast of sprrds glad you were not there... this is too risky...bling curves at well lets say sideways.. well we all survived then we went to Pinto EDs.. he took out his poney Pinto and we went to Frank "Us" shop....etc.
so keep the thread up-dated and we can all get the idea of whats its like on the other side of the planet...see many Fieros...?

paul


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #231, 10-28-2006 02:54 PM
      Hey guys and gals, going to a huge Exotic car meet tommorow, stay tuned.There will be a little of everything, I'm hoping for some fieros.

Alex


4-mulaGT (vettemanzo6@hotmail.com) MSG #232, 10-28-2006 09:31 PM
      what LS motor is in that orange hot rod?

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #233, 10-29-2006 08:38 PM
      I would guess a LS2? I did not ask, but it was nice.

I will post some pics of the cruize tommorow. The fiero could not tango with the exotics so we took a
2006 Corvette, and a 1997 Twin Turbo 400hp Supra. WOW the curves are awesome here is Cali. and the cars are awesome.
Hit an altime hi speed run today of 160 (?).....

Stay Tunned....


Alex


CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #234, 10-29-2006 09:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GKDINC:

Nice to hear from you Alex, Good to know you had a safe trip. .... maybe Dave and I could take it out for a ride just to keep things working.

Gary


Yeah, What Gary said !!!

Hi Alex, I took the Formula down to the Keys, got 30 mpg both ways.

Good hearing your doing well.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #235, 10-30-2006 11:52 PM
      Now for the pics....

The day was great and the cruise was even better. Many exotics, Muscle cars, domestic, etc.
Here are the cars we took, the 2006 Vette, and the 400HP Twin Turbo Supra. Sorry fiero had 300 hp less than required. hehe
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Vette were there:
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Few Muscle cars:
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Before the cruise we needed some fuel, it seems these cars spent as much time at gas stations as they did on the road.
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The cruise , we joined the Ferrari nuts, and let me tell you the supra and vette stayed with them no problem.:
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Alex

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #236, 10-31-2006 06:15 PM
      Is anyone near my area up for showing me were West Coast Fiero is? I really want to meet up with some fiero guys and gals.


Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #237, 11-07-2006 03:02 PM
      Okay, I finally got the time to do a render of the widebody, and I am happy that way it turned out.
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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #238, 12-18-2006 01:46 AM
     


Bump because i love this car !

Alex is still wiping off my drool marks from Daytona 2006 !


prtzlboy (prtzlboy@hotmail.com) MSG #239, 12-18-2006 11:13 AM
      sweet jumpin jimminy cricket, that's a sweet ride!

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #240, 12-18-2006 03:53 PM
      Thanks guys I am honored that you like the car. I am so happy because I will be going back to florida this wed 20-28th and get to drive her a little. I also just go the calendar from Fiero Store and I am happy with the pic selection.

TTYL

Alex


CoolBlue87GT (coolblue87gt@comcast.net) MSG #241, 12-18-2006 09:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Thanks guys I am honored that you like the car. I am so happy because I will be going back to florida this wed 20-28th and get to drive her a little. I also just go the calendar from Fiero Store and I am happy with the pic selection.

TTYL

Alex


Hey Alex, just in time for my birthday ( the 20th ) It's time for a cruise !!



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #242, 01-18-2007 10:33 PM
      A bump to see if there is anything new with the car and or Alex.

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #243, 01-25-2007 04:04 PM
      Update:

All is well in California, school is great and has kept me busy. With my schedule, I doubt that WAWUZAT will return to Daytona
this year. I hope but still don't know. Trying to finish my portfolio for review and got a chance to render the widebody.


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Alex


JazzMan (jazzman@fierocentral.com) MSG #244, 01-25-2007 07:21 PM
      .

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #245, 01-28-2007 01:04 AM
      Hey Alex,

Don't worry, while you are away your car is in good hands !







Just kidding. hehehehe. I was going to take a shot with me handing your dad a check and him handing me the keys, but i couldn't do that to you man hehehe.

BTW, just wanted to tell you, you have one of the coolest dad's ever !!

The new project is outstanding.

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #246, 03-12-2007 01:24 AM
      Nothing new to report abotu WAWUZAT. Hey Tony make sure the car is okay for me. haha

Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #247, 04-12-2007 01:18 PM
     
Second Tour !

A few memories from the car's second tour at Daytona (2007)





I could never get sick of looking at this car !


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #248, 05-03-2007 05:58 PM
      Figured I would add some of the photos from the recent Punta Gorda Show to this thread too.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064104.html






GKDINC MSG #249, 05-03-2007 08:44 PM
      Thank You
Gary
How about some pic's of the Yellow Notchie?

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avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #250, 05-03-2007 08:52 PM
      Is it me or is the front left tire on the right side of the car and the front right one on the left? It seems those are directional tires and they are on the opposite sides they should be on. Look at the pictures you can see the tire threads in.

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #251, 05-03-2007 10:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by avengador1:

Is it me or is the front left tire on the right side of the car and the front right one on the left? It seems those are directional tires and they are on the opposite sides they should be on. Look at the pictures you can see the tire threads in.


Yea, if that's a directional tire, it's definetely backwards. the thread is supposed to look like a Christmas tree that's upside down when looking from the front of the car. (easy way to remember)

-M


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #252, 05-03-2007 11:11 PM
      My dad probably had the wheels off, who knows, I'm sure he will swap them back.

-Alex

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kinglikeprince (kinglikeprince@yahoo.com) MSG #253, 05-07-2007 08:26 AM
      FieroGTRwideboby, is it possible to get a copy of the build cd ?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #254, 05-07-2007 12:44 PM
      Is the guy with his arms crossed busy looking at the car or the girl?




InTheLead MSG #255, 05-07-2007 01:59 PM
      What guy? There's a car???



SAFASTRO MSG #256, 05-07-2007 02:32 PM
      Hey Alex,
Sorry if this question was already asked.....but are you going to be selling a kit based off of this car, or are you keeping it a "one-off"?
If so.....how much for a complete kit??



F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #257, 05-07-2007 02:43 PM
     

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #258, 05-07-2007 03:36 PM
      Hahah ,

That guy with the crossed arms if my sisters boyfriend. I'm sure he likes the car, but not as much as my sister.

The car will not be offered in kit form, we want to keep it a one-off for now. Who knows what the future may hold in store
for it.

kinglikeprince: I can probably get another CD put together if you really want it. I'm not sure everything will fit on one, but
I can get them for you. Let me know.

-Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #259, 06-27-2007 12:06 AM
     

Alex,

Come up with any new fiero designs while you are away ?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #260, 06-27-2007 06:03 AM
      I'll see what I can put up when I get some time....

Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #261, 07-24-2007 12:39 PM
     

bump for the newbies !


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #262, 08-06-2007 04:40 AM
      Ok lets ad some photos.... dad sent me some pix of the yellow one. It came together pretty good. I still love WAWUZAT GTR, but the yellow has it own good points.
The wheels came in and the final touches are beign put on. It's funny how a car looks 100% better with some wheels and small details. Enjoy.

-Alex

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #263, 08-06-2007 04:42 AM
      Forgot to mention, I have some designs to post too. Soon


-Alex


8Ball (viriiguy@gmail.com) MSG #264, 08-06-2007 07:32 AM
      Wow that is looking good. Not entirely my taste on the yellow one, but amazing work none the less!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #265, 08-06-2007 11:12 AM
     

Good job Bobby !

THe car really came together with the final touches, and yes i agree Alex, wheels make a huuuuuuuge difference.

Now let's see some of those new designs !


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #266, 09-22-2007 11:02 PM
      Bump... Bump....Bump it up.....


I wish there were some updates

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #267, 11-15-2007 08:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Forgot to mention, I have some designs to post too. Soon


-Alex


Hey Alex can we see those new designs ??


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #268, 11-15-2007 08:40 AM
      Going to the LA Auto show today, for press day. I can't wait to see the Lamborghini Reventon. I will post some stuff asap..... The current stuff is more commuter car
research, you know with all the green stuff going on, we need to design efficiency too. Not my favorite but, its the job.


-Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #269, 11-17-2007 03:23 AM
      Ok, Here we go.. the Reventon.




























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Lead designer for the Reventon. After talking to him about the design, it makes sense why it looks the
way it does. The idea was thought of on paper but their CAD guy did the majority of the car. It is amazing how fast they
did it too (4-5 months).


I have more pics of the rest of the show too.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #270, 11-25-2007 12:35 AM
      Some unseen shots of the build...... Found them through CD's and photo books. I figure they will also contribute to the finalization of the build.



One man power

Cleaning engine bay

Rear 3/4 shot

Rear end details

Leaving Daytona 2006, a very tight fit

Carbon fiber fabric sun visors

Coming together

Wingless.....food for thought

All opened up

Rear assembly

1st test drive at home

Carbon fiber headliner

After 1st wetsand

Primer and lowering springs

Great read of form

Working on the rear

Stock 88 comparison

Gpa and Gma checking out the car

Defiantly wider

Bobby (Creator) and Brian of Prestige Auto Center (motor work)

Front comparison

Quietly at rest

Gma and Gpa

Momo merchandise

Reverse glow gauges

Front compartment

It is all in the finish work

Coming together

Francisco ( Lamborghini shop manager and painter of car) and wife

Creator cleaning Wawuzat

Builders Me and Dad

Engine install in process

Morning after wet sanding

Kingdom Customs do great work and products

This is what the engine looked like

Happy at Daytona 2006

After job was done


Brian, Alex, sis, and Fransisco Vilalba

I think that is about everything I have to document on the Widebody as far as the build, who knows what is next?
Time will tell.

-Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #271, 01-09-2008 12:20 AM
      Some people didn't like it, but it looks like you did a pretty good job in designing the chin spoiler on the car.



The guys at lamborghini apparently share your taste:

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Anybody ever tell you, you might have a future as a car designer ?



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Alex you can design my car anytime ! Keep up the good work buddy.

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #272, 01-09-2008 12:47 AM
      Wow where did you get those pics? Man I've been looking for some race photos.
I am surprised how similar the openings are, haha now way. I know some people did not like them, but I had no clue they had
a similar things on actual Lambos....Great!

No problem Tony, as soon as I graduate I will do some fiero related stuff, for myself and other that show real interest. I don't plan on
wasting time with small projects. Actually as I progress into the upper terms, my design chair told me that we will have the opportunity to do
a Lamborghini design sponsored project. I can't wait to sink my teeth into it, but what I am also excited about is that for one of my upper term projects
I will make it a priority to redesign he next generation FIERO..

Thanks for the post and if you could give me a link that would be awesome.

-Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #273, 01-09-2008 01:09 AM
     
Tons more pics can be found here in the galleries.

http://www.reiter-engineeri...om/index-english.php


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #274, 01-10-2008 01:08 AM
      Hey all,

Got a chance to clean and drive it a little. The car is great, besides having the wing off and needing some air in the front right it was great. I gave it a once over clean and it should be good for another year of storage. It runs well, no leaks just dust. Anyway here are some pix. I will upload the video of the car tonight.....sty tuned.

-Alex











Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #275, 01-10-2008 02:44 AM
      beautiful car ..I can see a future Pininfarina employee

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #276, 01-10-2008 02:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Erik:

beautiful car ..I can see a future Pininfarina employee


Either that or work for Walter de Silva.


creator (rbrainz@comcast.net) MSG #277, 01-11-2008 09:24 AM
      Nice Fiero

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #278, 01-11-2008 08:54 PM
      Alex, could you post some more interior detail shots?

What materials are you using on the interior? CF and leather/vinyl? What brand are the seats?


Fierotaz (hotrodding@cox.net) MSG #279, 01-11-2008 09:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:
Hey all,
..I gave it a once over clean and it should be good for another year of storage...
-Alex


Storage???? That is a beautiful car and is screaming to be driven, driven, driven...and did I mention driving the car


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #280, 01-13-2008 04:04 AM
      I will put up some more interior shots asap. The interior is wrapped in a combination of leather and vinyl, we also used the carbon fiber vinyl material to go with the Kingdom Customs CF headliner and trim pieces. The orange face-plates are the same color as the exterior of the car.

-Alex

Also if you go to page 3 toward the bottom you can see some more interior detail pictures.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #281, 03-02-2008 12:14 AM
     

Reading this thread almost forces you to go out in the garage and start tinkering.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #282, 03-02-2008 03:38 AM
      tell me about it.....

-Alex


Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #283, 03-02-2008 04:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

tell me about it.....

-Alex


Any updates? What have you been up to lately?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #284, 03-02-2008 04:44 AM
      Working on a fiero project and a Lotus Elise project. Slow pace, but thats because I am in school and dealing with a large work load.

sorefeet (donkey_kong_28@yahoo.com) MSG #285, 06-25-2008 08:42 PM
      hi alex, that car is amazing, mind if i ask what your taillights are out of, dont know if i missed that info or what

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #286, 06-25-2008 08:47 PM
      They are pisa lights, I assume from earlier impala maybe...Pisa sells or used to, a kit.

LowLux (lowlux@gmail.com) MSG #287, 06-25-2008 09:12 PM
      lol..... i went to Port Charlotte High School for about a year.... when Hurricane Charley wiped out CHS.



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #288, 06-25-2008 11:30 PM
      Cool man, that was not too long ago. You got a Fiero. I might have seen you around town maybe.

-Alex


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #289, 07-16-2008 08:17 PM
      I'm back for 2 weeks, from Aug 18-Sep 3rd. Any one up for some Fiero related events or activities ?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #290, 08-04-2008 10:57 AM
     

Alex,

You going to fire up the widebody ??


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #291, 09-15-2008 02:03 AM
     

Alex any new pics from your visit ??


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #292, 10-29-2008 01:43 AM
      http://www.zippyvideos.com/...6_alex/*hottiefiero2

http://www.youtube.com/view...t?p=8F387AA8F53B48AC

http://www.youtube.com/watc...7AA8F53B48AC&index=1


Fav vids......the fun days


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #293, 01-17-2009 03:12 PM
      What's new on this GTRW?

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #294, 01-27-2009 09:19 AM
      Nothing new really. Saw her this christmas break, wanted to drive her....but she had a flat front right. I put some air in it, but a few minutes later it was done. Looked, not punctures, might be the tire bead. Anyway, next break or after, a new tire is in order. We'll see.

-Alex


IVANNATINKLE (seanmiller063@gmail.com) MSG #295, 07-28-2009 01:21 AM
      this build has to be one of my favorite fieros ever!

TEXASGT MSG #296, 08-19-2009 02:17 PM
      You should offer the nose alone. i'd buy that in a second.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #297, 08-20-2009 11:00 AM
      Thanks !

_ Alex


FastFieros (fastfieros@fastfieros.com) MSG #298, 08-20-2009 03:31 PM
      Hi Alex,

This is a really great build up you have provided the Fiero community.. I am happy to have provided a small part of the project. You have really made my wiring harness look even better in that engine compartment. Please let me know if there is any other future needs you have.

http://www.fastfieros.com/projects wishing I could do body work like that !


kyunderdawg MSG #299, 08-20-2009 09:06 PM
     



Amazing build and an awesome car!!!!! You and your dad do great work. Hope to see something in the future.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #300, 10-21-2009 03:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Hey Alex, do you have any pics of you between the door and the car? I'd like to compare the two Decahs. If alll thing being equal, I think the Decah Honda universal might be a better option with little or less work for the Fiero application.



I think we have a famous car designer in the house. Didn't I see you on Super Cars Exposed? If so, great work.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #301, 10-21-2009 03:55 PM
     

It's funny i saw that episode at the design school and i was specifically looking for Alex, but got a phone call in the middle of the episode when they got to the school,..was he on there ??!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #302, 10-21-2009 05:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
It's funny i saw that episode at the design school and i was specifically looking for Alex, but got a phone call in the middle of the episode when they got to the school,..was he on there ??!


Yep. I think it was him, but it was only 4-6 seconds with the camera looking over him as he was drawing so you only got a few seconds on the left side of Alex's face. Any way, I'm proud of him.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #303, 10-26-2009 01:02 AM
     
Yeppers !!

Saw the program again tonight and it was definatly Alex !!

He was actually doing some clay modeling when the camera focused in on him for a few good seconds.

Congratulations !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #304, 10-26-2009 01:08 AM
      Yeah, they interviewed some other dude when they should've interviewed Alex. At least Alex has built something.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #305, 10-26-2009 06:19 AM
      Hey guys .... haha it finally came out.

It was me and the program was Supercars Exposed with Tanner Faust ... Gosh it took long to come out 6 months maybe more...

I have the link fot he whole vid if you guys want it... it was sent to me.

That scene was the development of my Trans Am project I had posted here earlier.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #306, 10-26-2009 06:21 AM
      haha here it is:



http://multimedia.foxsports...osed-design-work.htm

Min 1:21

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #307, 10-26-2009 06:37 AM
      Woo Hoo, Very good!



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #308, 10-26-2009 07:07 AM
      So been meaning to put some stuff up here.... This was a photoshop assignment to change our vehicle into different segment cars... I had fun!

Fieros fro all.....

Fiero 4 Dr. Sedan



Fiero Wagon



Fiero MicroCar



Fiero SUV



Fiero Truck



Fiero SUVT



Fiero Shaved Dropped and scooped...GTRwidebody style



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #309, 10-27-2009 05:08 PM
      Nice pitch Alex. They have a sleeper cell among the group promoting (cherry picking) a Pontiac brand, hehe. Too bad GM will kill the brand.

ClayTonto (acecwilson@yahoo.com) MSG #310, 01-15-2010 09:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:
Fiero Wagon




O.K. Tell the truth. Did you design the Porsche Panamera?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #311, 01-19-2010 04:49 PM
      haha... looks like it doesn't it. So for an update took some new pics of the car and got to drive her around a bit. It was good to open her up after soo long. She is currently at her new resting spot.














-Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #312, 01-20-2010 12:16 AM
     

Very cool.

Nice to see that baby out and about again,..welcome back to behind the wheel !


my-fiero (s.van.dongen@philips.com) MSG #313, 01-21-2010 05:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:














-Alex



MORE!!!! MORE!!!!


hksteck84 MSG #314, 02-02-2010 10:17 AM
     

Fiero MicroCar



looks like a smart car upgrade


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #315, 02-02-2010 11:22 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

haha... looks like it doesn't it. So for an update took some new pics of the car and got to drive her around a bit. It was good to open her up after soo long. She is currently at her new resting spot.

-Alex


You have a PM.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #316, 05-20-2010 07:17 AM
      Soo....looks like a certain orange car might be in California soon...

-Alex


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #317, 05-23-2010 03:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Soo....looks like a certain orange car might be in California soon...

-Alex


Hey, I saw another video of you on MotorTrend TV about two weeks ago and the video was better than the first one. Hey, heads-up. You better keep your FL plates and state, "I'm on only here for a month." I don't think your 3800SC has any chance of passing CA smog reps.


jim94 (jcmusco@comcast.net) MSG #318, 05-26-2010 03:43 AM
      i love your car, nice build.how is the engine viewing window working out. is it glass or lexan.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #319, 08-26-2010 01:07 PM
     

Hey Alex,

Did the car make it out to California ?

Were you able to get it registered past the smog nazis ??


1988holleyformula MSG #320, 08-31-2010 12:29 AM
      Anybody have any high res pics of this beauty? PM me if you got any. I just love this Fiero!

tigershark MSG #321, 09-16-2010 10:54 PM
      Bump

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #322, 10-08-2010 08:50 PM
      Hi all,

I have been out here in CA for a while and it seems like my family will relocate here. This is leaving me with a though choice. What to do with the widebody? I cant bring it out here, cant afford to store it here, and dont have a place to in Florida. Though decisions coming up.

I am testign out the waters for its possible sale. Knowing how much we spent on this car, and how much is unaccounted for, this will result in a big loss. I dont even know where to begin, or what to ask for....

Will post in the FS section, just a matter of time.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #323, 10-09-2010 02:13 AM
     

Alex,

Check your PM.


Kento (kento@triad.rr.com) MSG #324, 10-09-2010 09:03 AM
      Alex, you could get an address box at the ups Store and use that to register the car in FL keep those tags current that way. if you are a full time student you can use that if you get pulled over.

tgk7203 (tgk7203@gmail.com) MSG #325, 10-09-2010 10:43 AM
      Wow just found this thread. My dad runs Benedettos in Punta Gorda Wish I could have ssen it while it was there If you grand parents still live in florida you can use there adresse to keep your plates. Dont sell you wil never forgive yourself. Good luck I hope you go to work for GM they need a guy that thinks out of the box like you.

nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #326, 10-09-2010 11:54 PM
      Hey , Surprised I didnt see you at our annual Fiero's of San Diego BBQ, were you back home??? Im usually up in Orange County about every 3 weeks, we should meet up. As far as the car, definitely should find a way to hold onto it. Im sure there would be a place out here through a local member who has extra space, Put something up in the General Chat and see what responses you get. Remember there is always a good solution out there!

BabyVet (mybabyvet@yahoo.com) MSG #327, 10-11-2010 12:41 AM
      I am all for the Sedan,wagon,micro car

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #328, 12-21-2010 06:01 PM
      Hey everyone,

Sorry for going off topic but I need serious help. Might be moving to Minnesota for Polaris internship. Is is safe to drive the 88GT around in the winter there? Also I need a room from Jan to April for rent. Anyone know anyone to point me in the right direction? Its located in Medina...

Thanks so much

-Alex


joshua riedl MSG #329, 12-21-2010 07:37 PM
      I've done it but would not recommend it. The fiero does well with good tires but there seems to be no warning before it spins out.

Fiero1K (nate.classic@gmail.com) MSG #330, 12-21-2010 09:28 PM
      I drive an 88 coupe with snow tires. It likes it. I have yet to spin. I do drift...a....little....

SlowGuitarMan (kphilli8@mix.wvu.edu) MSG #331, 12-21-2010 09:36 PM
      My winter car is an '86 GT with studded snow tires. The only time I had trouble was when I was going up a steep hill, and an SUV that had been stuck pulled out in front of me. I still made it up the hill without too much hassle though.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #332, 01-21-2011 09:10 PM
      bump

sporlan MSG #333, 02-08-2011 10:09 PM
      Who's interior is in the orange car?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #334, 02-09-2011 12:11 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by sporlan:

Who's interior is in the orange car?


it is a modified v-8 archie dash.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 02-09-2011).]

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #335, 11-22-2011 12:00 AM
      Hey all,

So I have been super busy with school and have really begun to move on... The widebody is just becoming a PITA to store, maintain and I am considering getting rid of it. Although it pains me to think about that, I am not sure if I will be in the country past next winter. With student loans stacking up, I need to move some priorities. Most of you know the car. Its very well documented and worth every penny that was invested into it. I am beginning to look at ways to sell it. I would be glad to sell it as is in all its glory or part it our (although I am reluctant to). Where should I try to sell it. Ebay, craigslist,? anyone? If a forum member was to get it, it would make me soooo happy.

Thanks guys,
-Alex

[This message has been edited by FieroGTRwideboby (edited 11-22-2011).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #336, 11-22-2011 12:35 AM
      Pm sent

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #337, 11-22-2011 01:09 AM
      If some of you are interested in whats been keeping me busy check out my blog. I have had a design intern position with Polaris, and currently in Volvo. My biggest fortune was to have a BMW design project picked and build as a full scale concept, and my Cavalli Colt was picked for a limited production run of 200 cars. Hope you guys enjoy:

http://alexalexievdesigns.blogspot.com/

-Alex


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #338, 11-22-2011 05:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

If some of you are interested in whats been keeping me busy check out my blog. I have had a design intern position with Polaris, and currently in Volvo. My biggest fortune was to have a BMW design project picked and build as a full scale concept, and my Cavalli Colt was picked for a limited production run of 200 cars. Hope you guys enjoy:

http://alexalexievdesigns.blogspot.com/

-Alex


Thats impressive, I like your work!


Falcon Fiero (joelpatton1@comcast.net) MSG #339, 11-22-2011 05:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Where should I try to sell it. Ebay, craigslist,? anyone? If a forum member was to get it, it would make me soooo happy.



I would do them all. You can do local eBay classifieds and there is NO fee. I ended up selling my solstice through an unrealated car forum. I probably had it on 5 different car/motorcycle forums, in addition to CL, and eBay. You never know who's eye it will catch.



85LAMB (linck777@netzero.com) MSG #340, 11-22-2011 11:44 PM
      Wow !!!
I really liked your work,
your art work is excellent.
I really like the millitary Jeep
My favorite is the airplane teamed car with the 01 on the side of it.
I wish I knew how to use photoshop,
so that I could do a fiero like that to see what it would look like.
Keep up the good work


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #341, 11-23-2011 10:38 AM
      Very nice work....good luck in your career.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #342, 05-10-2012 12:22 AM
      Hey guys, have it listed...

taps MSG #343, 06-03-2012 04:27 PM
      wow im sorry to hear about the car, but you are a very talented designer and your thread has been very inspiring to many people, especially young enthusiasts hopefully everything works out with your car

Taps


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #344, 06-12-2012 11:56 PM
      Spent a few days making some trim and other parts, some of which are inspired by what I have seen here, and some not. Been wanting to add some character to my daily 88GT.

First thing I did was get these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150...id=p3984.m1439.l2649

20 is enough to do: front compartment, dome light, foot wells, aux gauges, and main cluster. There is a shorter set on ebay good for the license plate bulbs.
Best upgrade I have even done, I can actually see now, and its modern blue-ish not yellowing oem bulbs.





Upgraded to these H4 60/55 non-seal beam lights with glass lenses. Fair price and better visibility.


One thing that has been bugging me a lot since I removed my visors is the whole I had left. Decided to make some nice caps. Made a wood tool, and vac formed some nice caps. Made a set in white abs which I later painted grey and I tried vac forming thin brushed aluminum, which worked surprisingly well.


Brush allum. pair. Decided not to use these.



Prior to paint



Installed



Next I did something I did on the widebody... Front bumper chin protector. Easy to make and worked well on the widebody and the stock
88GT. Made from weatherstripping.



Cut and keep shorter side.


Installed with 3M Automotive Doube Side... strong stuff.







Also wrapped the trunk area with vinyl wrap and the rockers in carbon. So easy to work with it. Hope I get to do a car someday.






The biggest of the mini projects was laser cutting a trim kit for the interior. Did the gauges, vents, center console, door pull trim, and lock/unlock buttoms. Love this stuff!! I made a file ready and just cut it. This allum sheet is pretty nice to work with.

Raster the Fiero GT logo.


Cutting



Some of the parts cut




Installed











I cant wait for all the stuff from Russ tho, he's making me a set of seat covers (I'm sure you all noticed how bad mine are), shift boot, brake boot, and floor mats. I think all those will finish off the interior nice. Thanks for looking!!

If anyone is interested in any of the peices I have made, let me know. I might be able to run off a few sets of alum trim, or carbon if anyone wants etc.

-Alex



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #345, 06-28-2012 08:12 PM
      Installed WCF coil over kit, Fieroguru 13" brake kit and new wheels and tires. What a productive car week. Thanks to Steven Snyder for all the help







No fitment problems with the 88gt. 18x7.5 x 38mm offset, and 18x8.75 x 35 mm rear 225/40/18 and 265/35/18.



1988holleyformula MSG #346, 06-29-2012 10:36 AM
      Your GT called me. Said it wanted some new (Mr. Mike's) seat covers.

Seriously though, that car looks great. So tastefully done, when does it get new seats?


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #347, 07-02-2012 10:34 PM
     

While different from your widebody, Alex you are slowly building another eye popper with your daily driver !

Keep'er going !


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #348, 07-03-2012 07:41 PM
      Thanks, Tony.

I received some more goodies from Russ. Had him do a set of covers, black, gray with red trim; floor mats, and a shirt and e brake boot.


Seats

New floor mats

New boots


As soon as they came in, they got installed. Pics...


Shift knob was done by Matt, here on the forum.

Seats installed




The embroidery is very nice also.


Great products and worth every penny.!!!

-Alex


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #349, 08-08-2012 08:17 AM
      Bump

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #350, 08-10-2012 05:10 AM
      Nice, didn't know you're hanging out in Pasadena. Tell Stephen Snyder Hi from Max. You're in great hands with his help.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #351, 10-24-2012 03:12 PM
      Hey all,

This Sunday I took the Fiero to the Art Center Car Classic. It was a concourse style event with many kinds of cars, race-cars, bikes etc. They needed a Fiero on display because they were exhibiting Ron Hill's work, along with much more. I was asked to bring my car although it wasn't completely stock, they were glad to have it as its in pretty good condition. Ron was head of the advanced studio where the fiero was designed. He had some cool original sketches from the late 70's which he did on the design process of the car. I will post those as time permits. Here are some photos.

In front of Art Center.


GT getting some love.





Hash marks lol












Ron Hill doing a Q&A with Leno, who came out with his Ecojet.





-Alex



nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #352, 10-27-2012 11:28 PM
      Hey Alex,

I am going up to Orange County next Friday-Sunday (I will be staying one block from "Mile Square Park" in Fountain Valley; it would be cool to hook up and get to meet.

Gregorio
Fieros of San Diego


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #353, 10-28-2012 02:49 AM
      Gregorio,

Let me know when you get here to OC. Are you going to have your fiero?

-Alex


nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #354, 10-28-2012 05:05 PM
      Hey Alex,

I may drive it up, not sure yet, just wrapping up on installing the Truleo intake, need to hard wire the new flushmount HID's. and have my front bumper off over at my shop as well. I may be able to push to get it temporarily together , before we re-style the body again so we'll see.


nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #355, 11-21-2012 01:44 PM
      Hey Alex,


I was hoping to connect with you ,but ended up with a full weekend. Ill be back up soon, but also wanted to invite you down to SD and. Meet some members down here. We either get together for meetings, or are at a members house wrenching.



FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #356, 02-03-2013 05:22 PM
      http://losangeles.craigslis.../cto/3591692002.html

Listing


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #357, 02-04-2013 02:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

http://losangeles.craigslis.../cto/3591692002.html

Listing


Change the $20 to 20k.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #358, 02-04-2013 05:29 PM
      oops typo..

nightonfire (gpantoja@rohan.sdsu.edu) MSG #359, 02-13-2013 05:00 AM
      Hey Alex,

whats been going on up there lately? Its been hectic here in SD, but end of Feb, Im gonna free up to focus more on the fabricating Ive been doing with some Cadillac LEDs, and new back end (for the 3rd time) lol
anyways let me know when you want to come down and chill with Fieros of San Diego.


TXOPIE (tx.opie@gmail.com) MSG #360, 02-13-2013 09:06 PM
      FieroGTRwideboby

PM sent.

OPIES FIERO GTX BUILD


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #361, 05-04-2013 09:41 PM
      Hey All.
Last weekend some friends and I went to El Mirage Dry lake here in CA. It was a great experience, and the 88GT got filthy. haha Here is some of the fun we had.
Steven Snyder came out, a local Pasadena fiero owner. His car did great.
Leaving, Fiero in the lead.
































After returning, cleaned the car and also trimmed out the Deck scoop ports. Rather than cutting out the whole opening from underneath I did 5 ports.







1988holleyformula MSG #362, 05-05-2013 03:48 AM
      Nice pics!

Love the GC Subarus!


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #363, 08-08-2013 10:51 PM
     

Alex anything new with your GT ?


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #364, 08-14-2013 05:37 PM
      Hey Tony,

Nothing new, I did take it to Sequoia and had a great drive. Took some cool photos. That's mostly it.


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #365, 08-14-2013 05:46 PM
      Some of the pics.













johnyrottin (johnharbour@hotmail.com) MSG #366, 08-15-2013 09:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:


What did you do to open up the holes and how did you trim them out?

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JHarvey MSG #367, 08-16-2013 04:50 AM
      maybe i missed it somewhere but what brake kit does that gt have?

1988holleyformula MSG #368, 08-16-2013 06:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JHarvey:

maybe i missed it somewhere but what brake kit does that gt have?


 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Installed WCF coil over kit, Fieroguru 13" brake kit and new wheels and tires. What a productive car week. Thanks to Steven Snyder for all the help




FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #369, 12-30-2013 05:26 AM
      Rubber vacuum line hose split and bonded onto the edge.

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #370, 07-05-2014 02:07 PM
     

O.K time to fess up !

Who is the lucky son of a gun who purchased the orange widebody Alex and his father built in this thread ?? It sold about a year ago.

I understand it is up in Canada somewhere.

P.S. Congratulations Alex on landing your dream job ! Can't think of a more deserving person.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #371, 07-05-2014 03:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
O.K time to fess up !

Who is the lucky son of a gun who purchased the orange widebody Alex and his father built in this thread ?? It sold about a year ago.

I understand it is up in Canada somewhere.

P.S. Congratulations Alex on landing your dream job ! Can't think of a more deserving person.


Nevermind, i figured it out. O,K Matt,....time for some updates or a new thread on your new sweet ride !

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/061830.html

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 07-05-2014).]

davylong86 MSG #372, 07-06-2014 04:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Nevermind, i figured it out. O,K Matt,....time for some updates or a new thread on your new sweet ride !

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/061830.html


Agree! Would love to see what this car is up too.In the top 10 of beautiful fieros on this site


Quad GT (quadgti@gmail.com ) MSG #373, 07-09-2014 12:39 PM
      Well I was in the running
We almost agreed on price but he just disappeared
Matt where in GTA you located in? Would love to check out my almost car I never bought lol


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #374, 04-09-2015 05:43 PM
      Anyone seen or heard of the car? Just curious.

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #375, 05-28-2015 08:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Anyone seen or heard of the car? Just curious.


Hey Alex,..talked to the new Canadian owner 2 or 3 months ago and he mentioned the car needed a little tlc.


Bump (w.wiedrich@hotmail.com) MSG #376, 05-08-2018 09:39 AM
      unfortunately, yes. we now know where this one will find its final resting place...



shemdogg MSG #377, 05-12-2018 09:39 PM
      That f@cking sux, that cars beautiful! wtf happened?

shem


Reallybig MSG #378, 05-12-2018 10:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by shemdogg:

That f@cking sux, that cars beautiful! wtf happened?

shem


Ummm.... looks like it caught on fire.

Should buff out though

[This message has been edited by Reallybig (edited 05-12-2018).]

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #379, 05-17-2018 04:07 PM
      Bummer, still possible to salvage the body. What caused the fire? Any more details?

-Alex


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #380, 05-18-2018 05:16 PM
      Alex do you still have contact info for the current owner ?

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #381, 05-19-2018 11:07 AM
      That's heartbreaking...

Joe


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #382, 05-19-2018 11:44 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Alex do you still have contact info for the current owner ?


I will look up the info.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #383, 05-26-2018 11:26 PM
      Hey Alex, tracked down Matt. He says some mice got into the car and caused an issue that led to the fire.

FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #384, 06-01-2018 08:56 PM
      Wow :/