We Build a Perfect Union
Topic started by: Archie, Date: 01-11-2006 09:04 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000047.html


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1, 01-11-2006 09:04 PM
      This build thread is going to cover the assembly of Chop Top version of a fastback IMSA with a ZZ383-425 GM Crate Engine with an all Chrome TPI system. There will also be a custom hood scoop installation & a decklid vent system added as we go.

As we put this together a few other things might be added to it & we'll talk about those as we go.

This car isn't scheduled to be done until Spring, so we'll update this as we proceed.

We've had the car for a few weeks & have already chopped the chassis & welded it back together.

Here are a few pics from that process.....











More to come..........


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #2, 01-11-2006 09:12 PM
      Bump. Cause good threads never die young.


Plus I needed to save it as "favorites."



007DOUG (fierowarehouse@comcast.net) MSG #3, 01-11-2006 09:25 PM
      This is going to be good!



RWDPLZ MSG #4, 01-11-2006 09:33 PM
      Looking good so far!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #5, 01-11-2006 09:35 PM
      No words just

Thanks for the update Archie!

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #6, 01-11-2006 09:46 PM
      Check your EMail

Curley, you should check your EMail too.

A

 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

No words just

Thanks for the update Archie!



Formula88 MSG #7, 01-11-2006 09:54 PM
     



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #8, 01-11-2006 10:17 PM
     

Tomorrow We'll show you the body............

Teaser pic to follow................

Archie

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #9, 01-11-2006 10:41 PM
     

This is going to be good !!!!!

Troy boy you lucky dog ! hehehe

TD37 (timdegroff@hotmail.com) MSG #10, 01-11-2006 11:59 PM
      I'm loving it!!!

-Tim

DOHC_SWAPPER (bbromley@telus.net) MSG #11, 01-12-2006 12:12 AM
      EEEE! I just pissed myself in anticipation!

TaurusThug (roadconephoto@gmail.com) MSG #12, 01-12-2006 02:02 AM
      what takes urine out of fabric????

86GT3.4DOHC MSG #13, 01-12-2006 02:42 AM
      Must .... get..... CHOPTOP!!

Ok archie how about this, how much If I bring you the stripped car, just a bare frame, had you chop the frame and rear clip, then sold me the windows for it? Then I just trailer it back home?

Really want a chop top, but cant afford 3k
Im still offering to be a rolling advertizement


FieroGT42 (fierogt42@gmail.com) MSG #14, 01-12-2006 09:58 PM
      Hey 86GT3.4DOHC, That sounds agreeable to me too. I can handle my bodywork no problem, but I've never done metalwork or welding...

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #15, 01-12-2006 10:20 PM
      We got the body for this IMSA Chop Top from Doug at Fiero Warehouse. The parts look great, some very nice fiberglass. Thumbs up to Sage Glass Works, I wish he lived closer to me.

In the following pictures we are just trial fitting the panels to the car to see if we need to do anything special to make them fit properly. This is a loose fit, many of these panels are not even aligned or bolted together.

Try not to get ahead of yourselves but we have a lot of work to do to mount the body before we actually chop the body panels.

We bolted the rear clip together at the bolt flanges before we could trial fit it on the Chop top chassis.

Archie

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Capt Fiero (captfiero@captfiero.com) MSG #16, 01-12-2006 11:41 PM
      I can see this is going to be a wicked thread.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #17, 01-12-2006 11:53 PM
     


Revenge of the Arch Rival !!! Sharpies rule ! hehehehe



Formula88 MSG #18, 01-13-2006 12:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Archie

Hmm, I wonder what's been scribbled out on the Fiero in the backround?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #19, 01-13-2006 03:24 AM
      Archie, Check your EMail. I have some new Ideas

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Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #20, 01-13-2006 10:23 AM
      Very nice. How tiny those rear tires look. Hope owner left some $$ for some wide meats. It will need them badly. How about a plexy window to show up that chrome inteke??



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #21, 01-13-2006 02:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Alex4mula:

Very nice. How tiny those rear tires look. Hope owner left some $$ for some wide meats. It will need them badly. How about a plexy window to show up that chrome inteke??

Yes, she's going to the meat market for some serious beef.


8Ball (viriiguy@gmail.com) MSG #22, 01-13-2006 11:28 PM
      Oh this is going to be one sweet ride. I am so jealous.
I look forward to seeing this build up.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #23, 01-14-2006 07:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Alex4mula:

Very nice. How tiny those rear tires look. Hope owner left some $$ for some wide meats. It will need them badly. How about a plexy window to show up that chrome inteke??

Can't do a plexy window Archie is doing a custom decklid vent system. But feel free to post any new Ideas, they are all welcome.
Time to start looking for rims any Ideas?


Fiero38SC (jrhaughey@gmail.com) MSG #24, 01-16-2006 05:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Archie

Archie, I just saw Joe Burke and his IMSA yesterday, and there is something we noticed that you might want to check. He is running 255s on the rear with about an inch and a half clearence between the top outside edge of the tire and body on the driver's side, but almost no clearence on the passager's side. If this owner never plans on big fat juicy rubber, don't worry about it.

IRM did his install, so it might be a flaw in the body panels or the install. Don't know if you can measure the rear fender flair to see if they are the same. If it is a problem, Doug might want to know.

Jason


Fiero38SC (jrhaughey@gmail.com) MSG #25, 01-16-2006 05:45 PM
     
 
quote

Hmm, I wonder what's been scribbled out on the Fiero in the backround?


 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


... Archie is doing a custom decklid vent system.

This might be a clue?




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #26, 01-16-2006 10:08 PM
      We're still trial fitting & getting things where we want them.

Trial fitting the Whale Tail.....

Archie

Emc209i (emc209i@yahoo.com) MSG #27, 01-17-2006 12:05 AM
      I see a solstice on a lift

DanFiero (dtmoffatt@msn.com) MSG #28, 01-17-2006 12:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Emc209i:

I see a solstice on a lift

Look here for a few more Solstice teasers!!

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/024804-32.html

Looking good so far Archie!!

Dan



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #29, 01-17-2006 02:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero38SC:


This might be a clue?

Hehehe nope,..two unrelated projects !

Fierobsessed (nstarfiero@aol.com) MSG #30, 01-17-2006 04:07 AM
      http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10409

hmm... Something fishy goin on in the solstice forum... Look out

scrabblegod (gene@scrabblegod.com) MSG #31, 01-18-2006 10:10 AM
      What is that youare building in the background?

Gene

rmphoto MSG #32, 01-18-2006 10:30 AM
      i spy a fiero with a rear window

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #33, 01-18-2006 02:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by scrabblegod:

What is that youare building in the background?
Gene

Pretty smart guy to go & find that picture.

It took a real rocket scientist to figure that out.

Archie

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Ronnie (rdf21851@aol.com) MSG #34, 01-18-2006 05:14 PM
      Looking good, but they don't make the kit with round molding for the fastback? Just noticed it.

jayguy (jayguy4@comcast.net) MSG #35, 01-18-2006 07:14 PM
      Or how about with no molding for those wanting to go smooth?


darkhorizon MSG #36, 01-18-2006 08:40 PM
      Dang archie, you guys sure know how to keep a scene interesting by reinventing the "fiero kit build" every year or so. Way to keep fieros the hottest hotrods around.


ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE PEOPLE SEE THAT FIEROS DONT BLOW UP, KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE A YEAR BECAUSE OF THEIR UNSAFE DESIGN, OR ARE REALLY SLOW!!!!!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #37, 01-18-2006 08:57 PM
      I've had a little trouble with my picture posting setup here for the last couple of days. So tonight we are covering a few days' worth of work.

Here we fitted the tail lights to the rear clip.

You have to remove the Taillight housing from the original rear clip & glass it into the new rear clip. Then trim just right around the ends of the lights.

Doing the decklid is a another matter. Whale tail is designed to replace the outer skin on the back half of the decklid. We also are installing a louvered vent cover above the engine area of the decklid. So we had to remove almoist the entire surface area of the decklid & fiberglass in these 2 items. Figure on lots of labor especially on the vented cover as it has lots of waves & very flexable.

Archie


shawnkfl (kmn9312@knology.net) MSG #38, 01-18-2006 09:03 PM
      damn nice! i would work for you just sweeping the floors to be around all of that and see them come together. any chance of you relocating to florida? specifically the tampa area......

...i can wish can't i...

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #39, 01-18-2006 09:30 PM
      After nearly a day of trimming & fitting of the wing & louver set, it bonded on. Then from the back side it gets fiberglassed on. It'll be glassed on the top after this sets up. The louvers were so warped that we laid another layer of glass over the underside of them. That way they might be firm enough to not flex while we try to sand them straight. We are thinking about glassing in some Re-Rod to firm them up some more. The thing that worries us is how to keep it from warping out of shape after 6 months of driving, heating & cooling.

Archie

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #40, 01-19-2006 01:29 PM
      Looking good Archie.

GKDINC MSG #41, 01-19-2006 05:08 PM
      Now if we could get Archie to curse, his employees to get some tattoo's and turn their hats around backwards, this would be perfect-- MADE FOR TV material. And of course we would also need that 20 YO model running around in the background. Speed Channel here we come.
I love these build threads.
Just a bump too.
Thanks Gary

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #42, 01-20-2006 05:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GKDINC:

Now if we could get Archie to curse, his employees to get some tattoo's and turn their hats around backwards, this would be perfect-- MADE FOR TV material. And of course we would also need that 20 YO model running around in the background. Speed Channel here we come.
I love these build threads.
Just a bump too.
Thanks Gary


How about American Fiero? on Discovery Channel


FierosinKY (mike@body4change.com) MSG #43, 01-20-2006 06:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GKDINC:

Now if we could get Archie to curse, his employees to get some tattoo's and turn their hats around backwards, this would be perfect-- MADE FOR TV material. And of course we would also need that 20 YO model running around in the background. Speed Channel here we come.
I love these build threads.
Just a bump too.
Thanks Gary

Y'all do the work, and I'll run around with the hot 20 YearOld girl in the Background

Mike

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FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #44, 01-22-2006 05:19 PM
      bizzityump. Anything new happen? that last post creaped me out a little.

darkhorizon MSG #45, 01-22-2006 05:48 PM
      word. I think they need to make a like "fiero build off" show for discovery channel as fieros > dumb motorcycles


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #46, 01-24-2006 04:12 PM
      Archie any updates before I go out of town? Off to Arizona tomorrow.

Shibbypoopalot MSG #47, 01-24-2006 05:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierosinKY:


Y'all do the work, and I'll run around with the hot 20 YearOld girl in the Background

Mike

HULK MAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!
Ha, kidding. Archie, let's see some more progress!!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #48, 01-24-2006 08:19 PM
      How about several days of progress in one day?

Installing the hood scooper thingie.........

It's glued down to the hood ribs here....... We've removed the top hood skin & laft the underside ribs in place like we did with the decklid.

After fiberglassing both sides of the hood, the filling begins.

Here is the inside of the hood before fiberglassing & before any filler.

Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #49, 01-24-2006 08:54 PM
      About to FGlass the rear clip together, this will be glassed on the outside, then on the inside that once again on the outside.

Back to the decklid. It'll take a lot of glassing & sanding etc. etc. to get this thing straight & pretty. This decklid is the extreme of the Fiero world. We are installing a wing made by Sage FG (some of the best FGlass I've evern seen) & We're installing a vent system that has to be as thin, warped & deformed as any glass I've ever seen.

...............



Russ544 MSG #50, 01-24-2006 09:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Back to the decklid. It'll take a lot of glassing & sanding etc. etc. to get this thing straight & pretty. This decklid is the extreme of the Fiero world. We are installing a wing made by Sage FG (some of the best FGlass I've evern seen) & We're installing a vent system that has to be as thin, warped & deformed as any glass I've ever seen.

Looking good Archie.
If you saw any of my widebody build thread you heard me say over and over how the glass work that Ted does is just incredable. with all the angles, nooks and crannys involved in this bodywork it's simply amazing how he avoids the creation of air pockets.
Are you gona open up those wheel wells and put some man size rubber on this car?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #51, 01-24-2006 09:57 PM
      The car is looking great Archie. The boys at the UAW and USW would love this build.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #52, 01-24-2006 11:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Russ544:


Looking good Archie.
If you saw any of my widebody build thread you heard me say over and over how the glass work that Ted does is just incredable. with all the angles, nooks and crannys involved in this bodywork it's simply amazing how he avoids the creation of air pockets.
Are you gona open up those wheel wells and put some man size rubber on this car?

Yes I just wish I could find someone as good as Ted around here.

Yes, we are going to open up the wheel wells just as you have described on your thread. I've done it that years ago but I've never seen it explained as well as you did in your thread.

Thanks

Archie

helmet1978 (helmet@raceme.cc) MSG #53, 01-24-2006 11:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Installing the hood scooper thingie.........
......

......
Archie

Is that a Rockcrawl hood vent? If not where might I find one?

Thanks!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #54, 01-25-2006 02:45 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by helmet1978:


Is that a Rockcrawl hood vent? If not where might I find one?

Thanks!


No its from Driven Visions, its the Extreme Extractor Hood Scoop
http://www.drivenvisions.com/onlinecatalog.html


helmet1978 (helmet@raceme.cc) MSG #55, 01-25-2006 08:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


No its from Driven Visions, its the Extreme Extractor Hood Scoop
http://www.drivenvisions.com/onlinecatalog.html


Thanks man..your car is looking sweet!


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #56, 01-26-2006 10:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by helmet1978:

Thanks man..your car is looking sweet!

Glad to hellp.. IIf you need more info just send a PM. BTW hotell webtv sucks!!

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #57, 01-27-2006 11:22 AM
     

I am drooling just waiting to see this car anywhere even close to completion.



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #58, 01-27-2006 04:00 PM
      How about a little update today........

I finally have PIP working on my shop PC.

There was a little change of plans when we went to opening up the wheel wells. Earlier I had said that we were going to do it just as Russ had done it in his thread. I still think that the method Russ described so well is a good way to do it, however, we decided to do it a bit differently after all.

The IMSA body (along with some other body kits like my Fino & Finale) have what I call a wheel well liner return on the insides of the wheel wells. Now on my Fino & Finale kits, we don't have to open up the wheel well to put on big wide tires, but on the IMSA you have to open them up.

On the picture below the red "X"'s indicate the area I call the wheel well liner returns. They allow you to uns a stock Fiero wheel well liner without modifying the liners. We wanted to open up the wheel wells but still retain the ability to use the stock wheel well liners.

So we marked off the area we wanted to remove on the lip while still retaining the returns. You can see where we drilled a couple of holes from the inside to mark the area where the returns were on the inside. that way we could cut the lips off & keep the return area where it belongs.

The lips we cut off looked like this.........

The cut Wheel wells look like this........

I'll show you what we did next in a few minutes........

Archie

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DOHC_SWAPPER (bbromley@telus.net) MSG #59, 01-27-2006 04:04 PM
      you forgot a T in HTTP.... there you go

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #60, 01-27-2006 04:47 PM
      Then we took a strip of sheet metal & with a few self tapping sheet metal screws installed it in the wheel well Archie (<~~~ I know I did that on purpose)

Then we laid up fiberglass on the inside.......

Then, the next day, we removed the sheet metal.......

Archie

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #61, 01-27-2006 09:28 PM
      Thats going to look great with the right set of rims Archie.

Russ544 MSG #62, 01-28-2006 05:00 PM
      Your method of enlarging the wheelwells should work fine. I never had any returns on my WB kit as when I ordered it I knew I was going to cut the wheelwells for larger rubber so I told Ted he didn't need to even build any returns. either method.. the end result should be similar.

lookin good.

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Fiero_Adam MSG #63, 01-28-2006 08:56 PM
      Looking really good! That thing is going to be so low and wide, it's ridiculous!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #64, 01-29-2006 08:26 PM
      What do you think? The perfect rim for the Perfect Union.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #65, 01-29-2006 08:34 PM
     

Those would make this ride totally unbelieveable !!

Go for it !!

ryan.hess (ryan.h@excite.com) MSG #66, 01-29-2006 08:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
We're installing a vent system that has to be as thin, warped & deformed as any glass I've ever seen.

Is this the one that's made in taiwan?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #67, 01-29-2006 08:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ryan.hess:


Is this the one that's made in taiwan?

yes itís the one. needs a lot of work. not for the faint of hart.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #68, 01-29-2006 09:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

What do you think? The perfect rim for the Perfect Union.

Yeah, those look pretty good.

Are they made in America?

Archie

Lilchief MSG #69, 01-29-2006 09:41 PM
      Archie: I'll have to admit this is one of your better ideas. I always thought an imsa body [ wide body ] and a chop top would be the ultimate, but an 85, oh well. Keep up the good work. I'll be following this closely



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #70, 01-29-2006 10:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Yeah, those look pretty good.

Are they made in America?

Archie

From HRE web site:

the good
"HRE's pursuit began in the 1970s as a small American auto racing equipment company embarking on a multi-decade journey of innovation in high performance wheel design."

the bad
"Wheel manufacturing is done in Japan; wheels are imported to the US."

so i will have to give it a 50/50. ha ha ha

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #71, 01-29-2006 10:23 PM
      I think you'll find that most wheels are imported.

haha, right now I want to take one of those Blue & Yellow UAW round symbols and make a Sad face out of it.

Archie

But, instead I'll just post some more pictures..............


 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


From HRE web site:

the good
"HRE's pursuit began in the 1970s as a small American auto racing equipment company embarking on a multi-decade journey of innovation in high performance wheel design."

the bad
"Wheel manufacturing is done in Japan; wheels are imported to the US."

so i will have to give it a 50/50. ha ha ha



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #72, 01-29-2006 10:40 PM
     



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #73, 01-29-2006 10:42 PM
     

Archie

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #74, 01-29-2006 11:00 PM
      Excuse me, I need to be alone for a moment.........
That looks awesome Archie!


2002z28ssconv MSG #75, 01-29-2006 11:26 PM
      [Sesame Street voice] ... one of these things is not like the other... lol

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #76, 01-30-2006 01:42 AM
     
anybody else getting little red boxes ???


GonsaiPK MSG #77, 01-30-2006 01:55 AM
      Nope. I'm enjoying the show...

Sourmug MSG #78, 01-30-2006 02:01 AM
      Archie:

Did you decide to reinforce the back of the decklid vent? If so how do you plan on diong it? I'm installing one these too.

Thanks
Nolan


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #79, 01-30-2006 07:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Archie:

Did you decide to reinforce the back of the decklid vent? If so how do you plan on diong it? I'm installing one these too.

Thanks
Nolan

When we fiberglassed the underside of the vent to the Fiero decklid we ended up glassing 2 layers over the underside of the whole vent area too. See my last post on the 1st page of this thread for pictures.

Archie

Sourmug MSG #80, 01-30-2006 11:52 AM
      Thanks Archie, I had seen that but thought you were considering adding some Re-Rod.

Thanks
Nolan


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #81, 01-31-2006 06:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


looks like I may have to add a lcd monitor to the dash for the rear view. looks like the wing and the rear window are about the same height. This just gives me a reason to add another toy to the car. he he

Russ544 MSG #82, 01-31-2006 08:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


looks like I may have to add a lcd monitor to the dash for the rear view. looks like the wing and the rear window are about the same height. This just gives me a reason to add another toy to the car. he he

Actually you may want to do just that. You'll be surprised to find just how little you can see from the stock side view mirrors also, since the body work is now wider. I have 5" tall stock type wingstands and a stock wing on mine along with a rollbar in the middle of ther rear window. rear visability is really sketchy. it's the price we pay to look cool however, so I'm not complaining. how bout you? LOL

Russ

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #83, 01-31-2006 09:00 PM
      hmm.....

Rectangle Rear View Mirror Monitor with Radar and Camera

SCCA FIERO MSG #84, 01-31-2006 10:24 PM
      Between the IMSA spoiler and Corbeau seats, I have a hard time seeing behind me in my IMSA.

Please don't skimp on wheels! They can make or break your car. Squeeze some 12"ers on the back and skin them with 335s.



motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #85, 02-01-2006 12:08 AM
      Wow that monitor is cool!!! more info plz. Joe

Parde_GT MSG #86, 02-01-2006 12:25 AM
      Awesome - I love it!!

Archie - one suggestion or rather request....when this is done can you post a picture (preferably from the back side) of the widebody chop next to a standard fastback? I would really like to see the visual because you sure have my interest.

Thanks.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #87, 02-01-2006 01:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:

Wow that monitor is cool!!! more info plz. Joe

I found alot of cool stuff on this site.
http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Rear-view/p/2000000003844/3000000149681/sm/1001624534.htm&ref=bmk


Reality MSG #88, 02-03-2006 08:56 PM
      I guess I have been out of it for awhile.

Everything looks very good.

You would think with those molds sitting right here I would have started a similat project over a year ago, but seeing as how I can't seem to even get the project I have started finished I guess I will just have to watch you build

Take care,
Anthony



motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #89, 02-04-2006 12:13 AM
      troyboy; thanks for the link. Cheers Beers n Gears Joe

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #90, 02-04-2006 02:24 PM
      Archie, any news on the part from S&P?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #91, 02-04-2006 03:24 PM
      Yes, I agree. The perfect rim for the Perfect Union.

It's all good in my book.


Seanpaul (seanscarbrough@gmail.com) MSG #92, 02-05-2006 01:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by scrabblegod:

What is that youare building in the background?

Gene

Looks like a lotus style deckled?

Is that a new Fiero Re Body?

Where can I get it?
Is it all fiberglass?
Is it a wide body?

Looks nice and clean....my 87
...they polly peaces have warped and look weird where they attach to the fiberglass upper body...



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #93, 02-05-2006 01:53 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Seanpaul:


Looks like a lotus style deckled?

Is that a new Fiero Re Body?

Where can I get it?
Is it all fiberglass?
Is it a wide body?

Looks nice and clean....my 87
...they polly peaces have warped and look weird where they attach to the fiberglass upper body...


The answers you seek lie here,......

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/050746.html

Seanpaul (seanscarbrough@gmail.com) MSG #94, 02-05-2006 04:52 AM
      ^^^ Thanks exoticse

I had to go back and actually READ the thread to see it was IMSA...lol...it was hard with all those nice pictures!

Do you have a link to the IMSA kit?
I like Norms work, but he doesn't offer a kit for the rear does he?

[This message has been edited by Seanpaul (edited 02-05-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #95, 02-05-2006 06:15 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Seanpaul:


Do you have a link to the IMSA kit?


http://www.fierowarehouse.com/
look under Fiberglass parts for the IMSA kit. Keep in mind that Archie has added many mods to the base kit. ex: front hood scoop, rear deck lid, chop, larger wheel wells,...... I have info on the other parts, if you need them just send me a pm.

Troy

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #96, 02-05-2006 10:34 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Seanpaul:

^^^ Thanks exoticse

I had to go back and actually READ the thread to see it was IMSA...lol...it was hard with all those nice pictures!

Do you have a link to the IMSA kit?
I like Norms work, but he doesn't offer a kit for the rear does he?

Hehehe now i am confused,... were u talking about the troyboy's white IMSA on the left or the car in the background belonging to the Arch Rival ??

I assumed you were talking about the Arch Rival's car since you posted the picture referencing what was in the background ?

At any rate i think you got it figured out which one you wanted to know about hehehe ? I think ?

PaulJK MSG #97, 02-06-2006 05:13 AM
      I was lovin' it until I started adding up the $$$$. Now I'm just gonna love yours from afar . it's gonna be a killer, troy .... WOW

v6fiero MSG #98, 02-06-2006 10:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Archie

AMAZING!!!!!

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #99, 02-06-2006 03:09 PM
      Archie, where did you get that front hood scoop?


Thanks!
JG


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #100, 02-06-2006 07:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:

I was lovin' it until I started adding up the $$$$. Now I'm just gonna love yours from afar . it's gonna be a killer, troy .... WOW

shhhhh..... My wife thinks it's in the shop for a tuneup and a few minor adjustments.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #101, 02-07-2006 05:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by THE BEAST:

Archie, where did you get that front hood scoop?


Thanks!
JG


http://www.drivenvisions.com/onlinecatalog.html



PaulJK MSG #102, 02-08-2006 10:13 PM
      I don't know if you've decided on a color, but someone is volunteering to do some Photoshopping:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/057343.html

Don't worry, I'm sure this car will be well worth any time you need to spend sleeping on the sofa . If you need to get rid of it, I want first dibs .....

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #103, 02-09-2006 07:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:

I don't know if you've decided on a color, but someone is volunteering to do some Photoshopping:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/057343.html

Thanks for the info.

and now the photoshop by Custom2M4


great job Custom2M4

ok guys which color?
pearl orange or pearl yellow
pic of car with pearl orange


86fierofun MSG #104, 02-09-2006 08:09 PM
      orange

aerosmithr0cker (jlbab367@email.cpcc.edu) MSG #105, 02-09-2006 08:10 PM
      in those photoshop pictures it reminds me of the 90 prototype. sexy. id go with the orange, you see yellow fieros all the time. but orange hardly ever and it is a nice orange too.

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #106, 02-10-2006 04:14 PM
      [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archie:

god those brakes look small



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #107, 02-10-2006 05:50 PM
      any updates Archie?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #108, 02-10-2006 06:22 PM
     
 
quote

ok guys which color?
pearl orange or pearl yellow
pic of car with pearl orange

Both colors look excellent.....I'd purchase another Fiero.....just to make sure.



PaulJK MSG #109, 02-10-2006 07:08 PM
      Wow - no matter which color you choose, the black 1/2 top with the dark windows really looks good. How come I'm perfectly satisfied with my car until I start looking at one of Archie's build threads .......

007DOUG (fierowarehouse@comcast.net) MSG #110, 02-10-2006 07:25 PM
      Orange.

Ever seen Scion's "Hot Lava" orange? It almost glows, however its not a pearl.

My only concern with pearl paint is touch-up. I used to own a pearl white GT. Touching-up rock chips was impossible!



PaulJK MSG #111, 02-10-2006 07:28 PM
      here's a thought for you for the front end ( kingcustoms.com ):



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #112, 02-10-2006 09:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Both colors look excellent.....I'd purchase another Fiero.....just to make sure.

The next fiero is in my garage waiting for its turn for a trip to Archies in 2007

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #113, 02-10-2006 09:58 PM
      That Orange is hot !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 02-11-2006).]

countach711 (johngates@hotmail.com) MSG #114, 02-11-2006 12:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

That Orange is hot !

yea, for $176 a PINT, it outta be! I just inquired on it today, that's in PPG paint

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #115, 02-11-2006 03:44 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by countach711:


yea, for $176 a PINT, it outta be! I just inquired on it today, that's in PPG paint

With this paint job itís the application thatís the real killer. I can get a great deal on the paint in NY just 175.99 a pint.
I could get it cheaper if I went with non-PPG paint but PPG paint is what the factory used.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #116, 02-12-2006 07:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

That Orange is hot !

I agree, orange it is.
now time to start looking for a shop in NY that I can trust to do the paint job.


kmerkle01 (merkoskm@clarkson.edu) MSG #117, 02-12-2006 11:59 PM
      why not archie's shop he is doing everythign else... plus you KNOW it will come out good all of his stuff does

Saber49 (saber61@hotmail.com) MSG #118, 02-13-2006 01:40 PM
      thats some exceptional work archie... i love it... agreed about the brakes though... need some massive ones stuffed in there lol.



PontiacJ8 (pontiacj8@hotmail.com) MSG #119, 02-15-2006 08:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


I agree, orange it is.
now time to start looking for a shop in NY that I can trust to do the paint job.


http://tuccihotrods.com/ Maybe?

Try to find Lenny Smith, I think he may be retired but I know his son is an excellent painter as well.
I would suggest my Dad, but his hand is currently disabled and the shop is a little messy.

Oh yeah, bump!

[This message has been edited by PontiacJ8 (edited 02-15-2006).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #120, 02-15-2006 11:12 PM
      A bit of an update on the car.

The back end of the chassis had a bit of frame rust on it & the fuel inlet pipe had rust in it too.

So we set about fixing it before we final mounted the rear clip. These are the kinds of things that have to be fixed if you're gonna do things "right".

Some before pics......

It also looks like someone had the engine cradle out of the car before. Here you can see the "window" cut in the side of the frame rail so that they could get the right rear engine cradle bolt out.

..............

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #121, 02-15-2006 11:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PontiacJ8:

http://tuccihotrods.com/ Maybe?

Try to find Lenny Smith, I think he may be retired but I know his son is an excellent painter as well.
I would suggest my Dad, but his hand is currently disabled and the shop is a little messy.

Oh yeah, bump!


thanks for the info



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #122, 02-15-2006 11:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

A bit of an update on the car.

The back end of the chassis had a bit of frame rust on it & the fuel inlet pipe had rust in it too.

So we set about fixing it before we final mounted the rear clip. These are the kinds of things that have to be fixed if you're gonna do things "right".

thanks for the update and great work Archie.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #123, 02-15-2006 11:24 PM
      Here is the old fuel pipe.....

Here is the replacement pipe........

Then it's all about cleaning, grinding & welding in new steel........

............................



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #124, 02-15-2006 11:27 PM
     

..................

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #125, 02-15-2006 11:33 PM
      Here's the new fuel pipe installed......

And We've installed the new rear window glass......

We also opened up the radius on the front wheel well openings. I can't find the in process pics on doing these but we used the same method that we used on the rear of the car. Here's the finished product.......

Once we get the body back on for the last time, we gotta do all the sanding of the glassed areas.

Then I want to put on the coil-overs & set it on the floor to determine what wheel sizes we will need.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 02-15-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #126, 02-16-2006 12:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Here is the old fuel pipe.....

Here is the replacement pipe........


WOW! not good. good find, good fix.

The Prezzzz (tp@fierofanatics.com) MSG #127, 02-16-2006 09:17 PM
      Hi Archie,
When you finish yours, do you want another one? you know I have this one just sitting around waiting for someone to finish it. I will sell it!



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #128, 02-16-2006 09:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by The Prezzzz:

Hi Archie,
When you finish yours, do you want another one? you know I have this one just sitting around waiting for someone to finish it. I will sell it!

I don't know...... that thing looks like it's too close to being finished. It would be way too easy to finish that up.

But....... ok, I'll take the bait. I know you want me to ask, so here goes........ Tell me more about that car!!!!

Archie

The Prezzzz (tp@fierofanatics.com) MSG #129, 02-16-2006 10:15 PM
      There isn't much to say, I have to many Fieros and I am working hard to get Lamborghini done for the Dells Yha I know I say that every year, but here is a sneak peak, as far as the imsa it runs has a quad 4 and would look great with a chop top I just have to many projects I had a post in the mall but no one was interested, this is not a kit! it is a one piece body that had to be slid onto the frame from the rear 1/4's are part of the rear clip all moldings are fiber glass, I could go on and on about the lower springs and all the mods that were done the dash exhust and everything but this is you thread and I just thought you might want it or someone you know would like it to complete.



ltlfrari (dave_ellis_@hotmail.com) MSG #130, 02-16-2006 10:29 PM
      Maybe it's just me but I always wear big thick welding gloves when welding. Sunburn on exposed skin from the UV is bad enough but hot stray sparks onbare skin is not good and they burn though a pair of jeans like they arn't there. Guess how I know.

PS. Great work as always. I love these threads.

 
quote




aerosmithr0cker (jlbab367@email.cpcc.edu) MSG #131, 02-17-2006 07:47 AM
      even worse is when you get a piece of welding slag to drop inside your shoe.

Formula88 MSG #132, 02-17-2006 03:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by The Prezzzz:

Hi Archie,
When you finish yours, do you want another one? you know I have this one just sitting around waiting for someone to finish it. I will sell it!

Nice car! If only that was an 88.

[This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 02-17-2006).]

Fiero2m8 MSG #133, 02-17-2006 09:28 PM
      I love your chop top's Archie - people mistake them for a Lotus up here in Canada.
I tried sitting in a 5" chop that a guy across town made, but I decided to go the roadster route (I'm 6' 2")
Thanks for selling me your V8 kit and posting pics of the LT1 reverse intake - it's the best idea I've ever seen on a LT1 Fiero.

Ryan

The Prezzzz (tp@fierofanatics.com) MSG #134, 02-17-2006 10:21 PM
      The car is on an 84 frame but I have a 88 frame if someone wants it with the car. I have alot of Fieros and I reallly need to put them into the hands of Fiero people.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #135, 02-23-2006 10:02 AM
      Did the motor arrive Archie?

Steven Snyder (fiero@steventsnyder.com) MSG #136, 02-24-2006 02:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by The Prezzzz:

Hi Archie,
When you finish yours, do you want another one? you know I have this one just sitting around waiting for someone to finish it. I will sell it!

Whoa, what is that rear wheel off of?? It looks like the Fiero coupe 14" but in 15" or 16"?



Oreif (kopielski1714@wowway.com) MSG #137, 02-24-2006 10:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Steven Snyder:


Whoa, what is that rear wheel off of?? It looks like the Fiero coupe 14" but in 15" or 16"?

They probably came off a Pontiac 6000 or late 80's Grand Am as both cars also used the 5X100 bolt pattern.
My guess would be the 6000 since it used the same bolt pattern up to 1990.


FIEROPHREK MSG #138, 02-24-2006 11:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Steven Snyder:


Whoa, what is that rear wheel off of?? It looks like the Fiero coupe 14" but in 15" or 16"?

that rim looks identicle to my old firebird formula rim ! Hmmm we need some light shed on this setup if it is a firebird rim !



FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #139, 02-24-2006 05:43 PM
      They are Firebird wheels on adapters.

Lets get some updates on the choptop widebody, its been awhile.

[This message has been edited by FieroWannaBe (edited 02-24-2006).]

Steven Snyder (fiero@steventsnyder.com) MSG #140, 02-24-2006 07:07 PM
      Wha?

The Firebird rims look like this, guys:

Notice how the whole face is dished?

[This message has been edited by Steven Snyder (edited 02-24-2006).]

PontiacJ8 (pontiacj8@hotmail.com) MSG #141, 02-24-2006 07:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Steven Snyder:
Wha?
The Firebird rims look like this, guys:
Notice how the whole face is dished?


Lots of wheel options...


FIEROPHREK MSG #142, 02-25-2006 01:31 AM
      My formula had the 16x8 turbo style rims with no dish (like the formula in that /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ pic ) I would love to get a set of GTA rims on my v8 build

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #143, 02-26-2006 04:28 AM
      Any updates on the body work?
p.s. sending you a pm on the motor change.


Slater_334 (whooda@gmail.com) MSG #144, 02-27-2006 12:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Steven Snyder:


Whoa, what is that rear wheel off of?? It looks like the Fiero coupe 14" but in 15" or 16"?

Its looks strange because he has the imsa rear. Look just in front of the wheel rear wheel. I think that is what is throwing you off.

The Prezzzz (tp@fierofanatics.com) MSG #145, 02-27-2006 11:01 PM
      Ok I will put your mind a ease they are 16" rims and tires off of a trans am with wheel adapters to push them out to fit the body here is a closer look



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #146, 03-01-2006 10:14 PM
      Well, I guess it's time to get back on subject here.

Archie

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #147, 03-03-2006 08:57 PM
      Back in town and glad to see that the engine is at the shop. When will the swap start?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #148, 03-03-2006 10:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Back in town and glad to see that the engine is at the shop. When will the swap start?

We'll get the original engine out next week & access how much rust repair we have to do to the cradle. Should be pretty well into it by the end of next week.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 03-04-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #149, 03-08-2006 08:24 PM
      Archie any pics of the new valve covers?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #150, 03-08-2006 11:13 PM
      I'll try to remember to take some pics of the covers tomorrow.

We have the old engine out of the car. Man just about everything under there has rust in it. We'll take a hard look at what we have & take a bunch of pics for you tomorrow.

Archie


 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie any pics of the new valve covers?



FIEROPHREK MSG #151, 03-12-2006 09:12 AM
      Bump from page 4. Any more updates or has the PFF roadster been sucking the life out of you



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #152, 03-14-2006 08:35 PM
      Archie, do you still have the other F40 6 speed transmissions in house?.....
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Got 2 more new F40 6 speed transmissions & associated parts in today.

One of them has Dias written on it & the other one could be yours.


Archie




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #153, 03-14-2006 10:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie, do you still have the other F40 6 speed transmissions in house?.....

Yes Sir, I've got an extra one for you & I've got 2 more ordered. In fact I've got all the pcs. for the six speed swaps done & most of them in stock. As of this time next week, I'll have over $40K in 6 speed swap inventory.

So I've got something for everyone here.

I'll bring some pics of your car home tomorrow. We're mounting the front air dam to the front clip right now for final mounting of the front clip on the car. We also put the Hot Cam & 1.6 rockers in your Fast Burn 385 engine today taking it up to 430.

I did take some pics of your valve covers the other day......

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 03-14-2006).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #154, 03-14-2006 11:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:

Bump from page 4. Any more updates or has the PFF roadster been sucking the life out of you

Exactly!!!!!!! I'm getting to where I'm tired of looking at that Roadster

Troy's V-8 6 speed swap, plus a 6 speed swap into a V-6 Fiero & a another V-8 6 speed swap & chop to another Fiero will be in full swing by the time I get back from FL. So there will be a lot of project updates for the next several weeks.

Archie


85sliverGT (zymogenesyst@hotmail.com) MSG #155, 03-14-2006 11:14 PM
      with all the work you have comming up you need any extra hands around the shop?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #156, 03-14-2006 11:31 PM
      Yes, we actually have a new guy starting in 2 weeks.

Archie

 
quote
Originally posted by 85sliverGT:

with all the work you have comming up you need any extra hands around the shop?



85sliverGT (zymogenesyst@hotmail.com) MSG #157, 03-15-2006 12:04 AM
      well need one more? i would be honored to just sweap the floors at your place, let alone learn and work for you

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #158, 03-29-2006 07:06 PM
      just a bump from page 14.

gascarracer (ernestbauhofer@fuse.net) MSG #159, 03-31-2006 05:25 AM
      Any more updates on this project. Is it done?



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #160, 03-31-2006 08:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by gascarracer:

Any more updates on this project. Is it done?

No it's not done yet, but soon I hope. 4 months with out your toy is painful but the reward should be priceless

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #161, 03-31-2006 09:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


No it's not done yet, but soon I hope. 4 months with out your toy is painful but the reward should be priceless

Correct, right now the plan is to drive that baby on it's 1st test drive in less than 2 weeks.

There will be daily updates starting Monday.

Archie

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #162, 04-03-2006 11:21 PM
      Archie PM me when you get the measurements for the rims.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #163, 04-10-2006 11:57 PM
      just a bump for updates

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #164, 04-11-2006 12:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

just a bump for updates

We're mounting the engine to the cradle & should be doing the 1st trial fit tomorrow sometime.

I'll try to update the bodywork & engine work on this thread tomorrow.

Archie



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #165, 04-13-2006 01:32 AM
      Well, I'm sorry I've gotten behind on these posts. It looks like I'm about 7 weeks behind on my posts to this thread. So we've got a lot done that I've got to post to bring you up to date.

Let's get on with it..........

After cleaning & painting all of the bad places we could find on the chassis, we remounted the body for the last time.

We installed the new rear window glass......

And the body......

Unpacking the crate engine.

Pull the old engine to get ready for the new one.

...............

GonsaiPK MSG #166, 04-13-2006 04:21 AM
      Man, that thing is low and wide like no Fiero I've seen before...

You may have mentioned it already, but what size wheels and tires are going on this beast? IMHO anything less than 18s out back will be doing it a disservice...

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #167, 04-13-2006 07:45 AM
      Thanks for the update Archie.

 
quote
Originally posted by GonsaiPK:

Man, that thing is low and wide like no Fiero I've seen before...

You may have mentioned it already, but what size wheels and tires are going on this beast? IMHO anything less than 18s out back will be doing it a disservice...

I'm going for 20X 11 or 12s in the rear and 19X 9.5 front. Maya or HRE


Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #168, 04-13-2006 09:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Thanks for the update Archie.


I'm going for 20X 11 or 12s in the rear and 19X 9.5 front. Maya or HRE

Maya's!! Those are real bad a$$

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #169, 04-13-2006 12:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Alex4mula:


Maya's!! Those are real bad a$$

Yep hehehe troyboy ain't playing round folks !

He is in madcurl territory. hehehe.

I am sorry folks, but a chopped, engine swapped, widebodied fiero, with some nice ($) rims and suspension mods, is a better buy supercar if there ever was one !

This car is going to blow the non-fiero crowd away ! It is too late for us (the fiero crowd) we are already blown away.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 04-13-2006).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #170, 04-14-2006 12:28 AM
      I'm like way behind on posting what we've been doing on this swap so I gotta get busy & post a lot of stuff in the next few days.

Once we had the engine out, we needed to clean & paint the engine compartment......

The engine cradle was not in the best of shape & we were not going to be using the old transmission or engine so we aquired a better cradle & set this unit off to the side.

.................

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #171, 04-14-2006 12:50 AM
      Here is where we are taking apart that brand new 385 FastBurn Crate engine, to install the new GM Hat Cam kit including the 1.6 Roller rockers & new springs. That stuff will bring this engine up to be a replica of the famous (& Rare) ZZ-430 Crate engine.

We were also working on getting the Big Mouth air dam bolted onto the front nose. Troy wanted a "bolt-on" nose so that means the air dam would have to be bolt on too. As you can see there is a bit of a gap in the way the air dam bolts up the the nose. The air dam is quite strong, so we can't just tighted the bolts flatten out that gap. We will have to build up Fiberglass matt on the inside of this air dam so we can sand it straight.

.................

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #172, 04-14-2006 01:27 AM
      To install the left & right rocker panels, we had to add a little fiberglass to the insides of the ends of the rockers. This adds some material to buildup the area where they will bolt on. Remember Troy wants to beable to disassemble the front end so it can be removed if necessary.

The Aero parts at the bottoms of the doors also had to be modified. They were a bit too long & had to be shortened so the wouldn't bind when you opened the doors. Also the bottom edge of these aero parts had to be redone because they rubbed on the rocker panel when the door was open.

As it turns out, every body panel on the IMSA kit had to be modified to get this finished per plan.

Here are the properly fitted rocker panels with the reworked aero panels door parts.

That's all for tonite.

Goodnight.

Archie



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #173, 04-14-2006 10:36 PM
      Wow. The doors are the only original parts on the body.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #174, 04-18-2006 09:30 PM
      see you tomorrow Archie. Any pics for the road?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #175, 04-18-2006 10:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

see you tomorrow Archie. Any pics for the road?

Sure.............



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #176, 04-20-2006 02:46 PM
     

Archie or Troy any new pics ??

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #177, 04-21-2006 07:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Archie or Troy any new pics ??


I second that!



SCCA FIERO MSG #178, 04-21-2006 08:42 PM
      I have an IMSA as well with the lower door rockers binding against the front fender. They also drag the rockers under the doors. By shortening the door pieces... did you cut some off in the center and glass it back together? Any explaination would be appreciated. PM is fine, I don't want to hijack this thread.

Oh, Troy... you need to check out CCW wheels. You've never heard of them because they don't advertise... which means lower prices. I hope to get the SP18 wheels for my IMSA. 19x13 on back with 355/25 and 19x9 with 275s up front... if they will fit. Wheels will cost roughly $2,800 IIRC. I called them up and the guy that answered had no trouble answering stupid questions and never tried to hurry me off the phone.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #179, 04-21-2006 09:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

I have an IMSA as well with the lower door rockers binding against the front fender. They also drag the rockers under the doors. By shortening the door pieces... did you cut some off in the center and glass it back together? Any explaination would be appreciated. PM is fine, I don't want to hijack this thread.

Oh, Troy... you need to check out CCW wheels. You've never heard of them because they don't advertise... which means lower prices. I hope to get the SP18 wheels for my IMSA. 19x13 on back with 355/25 and 19x9 with 275s up front... if they will fit. Wheels will cost roughly $2,800 IIRC. I called them up and the guy that answered had no trouble answering stupid questions and never tried to hurry me off the phone.



Thanks for the info I will look them up.
what size do you have in the back now.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #180, 04-21-2006 10:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

I have an IMSA as well with the lower door rockers binding against the front fender. They also drag the rockers under the doors. By shortening the door pieces... did you cut some off in the center and glass it back together? Any explaination would be appreciated. PM is fine, I don't want to hijack this thread.



We cut off the rear end of the rockers then made a new end to replace it & make it shorter. Also reformed the forward end a little.

Here are the guys making the new rear end of the aero trim.





These also dragged on the rockers under the doors because they are not flat across the bottom.

The bottom of the door is flat & these aero pc. wrap around the bottom but they're not flat. This is what they looked like............



Here's what they look like when they are flat across the bottom.....



I have the best guys, they can fix anything.

Troy said a few posts ago, that the only stock Fiero panels were the Doors. Actually every stock Fiero panel on the car has now been modified. Not only that but now every fiberglass panel from the IMSA kit has also been modified.

Archie

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #181, 04-21-2006 11:10 PM
      Oh yeah, more pics..............









Archie


Tusch (john.partusch@gmail.com) MSG #182, 04-21-2006 11:36 PM
      Wow, that is simply amazing.

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #183, 04-21-2006 11:36 PM
      That is going to be one mean fiero

PaulJK MSG #184, 04-22-2006 12:21 AM
      That's it .... no more Archie threads for me until I get the limit on my charge card raised .... Damn, that's BEAUTIFUL work .....

PaulJK MSG #185, 04-22-2006 12:39 AM
      I wondered what it would look like if you stretched it in front of the rer wheels about the width of the "B" pillar ... something like this, I guess:



SCCA FIERO MSG #186, 04-22-2006 01:22 AM
      Archie, thanks a ton for the pics and the detailed info. Hopefully I can get it sorted out.

Troy, right now I have 15" wheels. 8" wide in front, 10" wide in back with a guesstimated offset of 0 in back and 30ish in front. Tires are 225/50 and 285/40 Yokohama AVS. The rear tires have been discontinued for some time (OEM rear tire for the early Countach) and the next best size is a 295/50 truck/hot rod type tire and I can't have a 6" sidewall. Dropping the dime for wheels like I want is proving to be a very hard thing for me, not to mention tires. I saved a bit up, but now that money is sitting in my living room in the form of a 55" Sony TV. Trying again.

I bought my IMSA from Gusshotrod here on the forum (he is building that tube frame Fiero). He did most of the work, but I have been fixing little things within my scope. If I can get motivated, it should be an awesome car.

I don't like to post pics of it's current condition, but here's a couple from about a year ago when I got it.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #187, 04-22-2006 05:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

Archie, thanks a ton for the pics and the detailed info. Hopefully I can get it sorted out.

Troy, right now I have 15" wheels. 8" wide in front, 10" wide in back with a guesstimated offset of 0 in back and 30ish in front. Tires are 225/50 and 285/40 Yokohama AVS. The rear tires have been discontinued for some time (OEM rear tire for the early Countach) and the next best size is a 295/50 truck/hot rod type tire and I can't have a 6" sidewall. Dropping the dime for wheels like I want is proving to be a very hard thing for me, not to mention tires. I saved a bit up, but now that money is sitting in my living room in the form of a 55" Sony TV. Trying again.

I bought my IMSA from Gusshotrod here on the forum (he is building that tube frame Fiero). He did most of the work, but I have been fixing little things within my scope. If I can get motivated, it should be an awesome car.

I don't like to post pics of it's current condition, but here's a couple from about a year ago when I got it.





I like what you did with the front and rear wheel well lip. Man that would look sweet with a chop. Take your time and fix it up the way you want. Once I get the car back from Archie, I will still have about 6 months worth of work to do to get it just the way I want it.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #188, 04-22-2006 07:44 AM
     
Troyboy that is absolutely sick !!

With the right wheels, it will be the cause of many large public gatherings.

You might even have to start getting a meeting permit from the city. hehehe


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #189, 04-25-2006 09:03 PM
      Fire In The Hole !!!!!!!!!!

Started it up for the 1st time today, Sounds good.







Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #190, 04-25-2006 09:41 PM
     

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #191, 04-28-2006 05:29 PM
      Okay, give me a ...

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #192, 05-01-2006 12:10 AM
      The bad news, looks like Maya rims + fiero = 0.
The good news, with Curlys help It looks like I will be going with HRE.
The question, which HRE wheels to go with?

#1



#2



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #193, 05-01-2006 10:43 AM
      Lookin' good - I'm hoping that you shoot a layer of primer on the whole thing so we can get a better "feel" for the overall look

BTW - I personally prefer the 5-spoke style wheel...


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #194, 05-01-2006 12:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
The question, which HRE wheels to go with?


It might be best to have or ask someone to photoshop those rims onto your chopper? HRE does have a photoshop version but, the Fiero car isn't on their list.

Tasty treats, hehe.

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GonsaiPK MSG #195, 05-01-2006 12:59 PM
      Woot woot!

I'd say go with the split-spoke. The five-spoke looks really nice, but I think this car needs something more distinct and exotic.

+$0.02


NJ85fieroGT (jesse.schulman@gmail.com) MSG #196, 05-01-2006 02:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Fire In The Hole !!!!!!!!!!

Started it up for the 1st time today, Sounds good.



Archie


Hey I've got that same EZ-Scan!! Best tool ever!!

Project looks awesome too!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #197, 05-03-2006 03:00 PM
     


hatchetrider84 (elite_tech04@msn.com) MSG #198, 05-05-2006 09:51 PM
      archie

i didnt see it in the 6 spd install (mabe it was and i missed it) what linkage did you use for the g6 trans?



MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #199, 05-08-2006 11:58 AM
      I was happy to see this beautiful project again this weekend at Archie's shop (as he was kind enough to host the NIFE club meeting there).

It's going to be a sweet looking car (especially with that Chrome S&P TPI intake!) - any chance you'll throw a layer of gray primer on the whole car? It'd sure be easier to photoshop it then

Personally, there is one small change that I'd like to see (and few of us discussed it and agreed). Have you given any thought to modifying the chin spoiler? The rest of the lines flow well, but the way the chin spoiler attaches - it leaves a bit of a "droopy bottom lip" appearance. We were thinking it'd be great to take a small section out and bring the leading edge up to it's more-parallel to the rest of the lower lines. Here's what we were thinking:


I'm sure it wouldn't be the easiest modification... but from the looks of the car - it wouldn't be difficult either


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #200, 05-08-2006 04:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

I was happy to see this beautiful project again this weekend at Archie's shop (as he was kind enough to host the NIFE club meeting there).

It's going to be a sweet looking car (especially with that Chrome S&P TPI intake!) - any chance you'll throw a layer of gray primer on the whole car? It'd sure be easier to photoshop it then

Personally, there is one small change that I'd like to see (and few of us discussed it and agreed). Have you given any thought to modifying the chin spoiler? The rest of the lines flow well, but the way the chin spoiler attaches - it leaves a bit of a "droopy bottom lip" appearance. We were thinking it'd be great to take a small section out and bring the leading edge up to it's more-parallel to the rest of the lower lines. Here's what we were thinking:


I'm sure it wouldn't be the easiest modification... but from the looks of the car - it wouldn't be difficult either


Thanks for the pics, its good to see her in the sun shine.
1. the paint: It all depends on the time frame, but it would be nice to have her home in one color.
2. the nose: I agree, the nose does look a little off. Archie made it so it could be remove and worked on if needed. Living in New York, raising the lip just might be a good idea.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #201, 05-08-2006 04:11 PM
     






MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #202, 05-08-2006 04:59 PM
      By request... a few more outdoor pics from Saturday afternoon...









madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #203, 05-08-2006 05:20 PM
      Very nice.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #204, 05-11-2006 07:20 PM
     

This car is just sick.,.....Archie what do you guys have left to do ??


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #205, 05-11-2006 08:25 PM
      Whats new Archie?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #206, 05-18-2006 05:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

I was happy to see this beautiful project again this weekend at Archie's shop (as he was kind enough to host the NIFE club meeting there).

It's going to be a sweet looking car (especially with that Chrome S&P TPI intake!) - any chance you'll throw a layer of gray primer on the whole car? It'd sure be easier to photoshop it then

Personally, there is one small change that I'd like to see (and few of us discussed it and agreed). Have you given any thought to modifying the chin spoiler? The rest of the lines flow well, but the way the chin spoiler attaches - it leaves a bit of a "droopy bottom lip" appearance. We were thinking it'd be great to take a small section out and bring the leading edge up to it's more-parallel to the rest of the lower lines. Here's what we were thinking:


I'm sure it wouldn't be the easiest modification... but from the looks of the car - it wouldn't be difficult either


I agree the angle is off a bit.

Just that simple modification would make a huge positive difference in the look.

Good thing you had Archie make it detachable. That mod should not be that hard to pull off.

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85GTV84FUN (coxboy2@aol.com) MSG #207, 05-18-2006 06:15 PM
      Another vote for clipping the chin spoiler - Car looks awesome.
Jeff

Troyboy - pm sent


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #208, 05-20-2006 08:59 AM
     




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #209, 05-23-2006 05:47 PM
      Troyboy sporting an extra big smile these days. That's because a much anticipated package has arrived.



Somebody better get out the defibulator for Archie, hehehehe. 245 and 345 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He has to cram these puppies (13" Wide !!!!!!) under that chopper ! (19/20 staggered combo)



Fat lip gauranteed !



OMG !

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THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #210, 05-23-2006 05:56 PM
      Nice!

I don't have a wide body on my GT but I Love the way Staggered wheels/tires look on Fieros (midengine cars). I went with 225/35/18 front and 275/30/19 on the back.

Got to love them..

JG


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #211, 05-25-2006 11:59 PM
      That's a nice slab of "Beef-O-Rosso's"

Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #212, 05-26-2006 11:38 AM
      345s!!!! That's Viper territory! Now we are talking

1fastcaddy (ku_ace@yahoo.com) MSG #213, 05-28-2006 01:33 AM
     
 
quote

Troy said a few posts ago, that the only stock Fiero panels were the Doors. Actually every stock Fiero panel on the car has now been modified. Not only that but now every fiberglass panel from the IMSA kit has also been modified.

Archie



Hey, those look like stock headlight doors.

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #214, 06-05-2006 05:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Whats new Archie?




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #215, 06-05-2006 08:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Whats new Archie?


I answered your PM before I saw this post, check your PM's

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #216, 06-19-2006 06:13 PM
     


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #217, 06-23-2006 08:37 PM
     

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #218, 06-23-2006 10:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:



Is that your home shop area?????

Very nice.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #219, 06-29-2006 05:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:



Status report Are the 541R being sculptured???


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #220, 06-29-2006 09:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Status report Are the 541R being sculptured???


I'll call jim friday and get an update. btw thanks for the info, time for Operation "STOP IT"


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #221, 06-29-2006 11:21 PM
      sculpturing a 541R ?!?!?!........... a "STOP IT" operation ?!?!?!

I wish someone would tell me what you're plotting.

Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #222, 06-30-2006 12:47 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

sculpturing a 541R ?!?!?!........... a "STOP IT" operation ?!?!?!

I wish someone would tell me what you're plotting.

Archie


lol, pm sent


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #223, 06-30-2006 06:35 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

sculpturing a 541R ?!?!?!........... a "STOP IT" operation ?!?!?!

I wish someone would tell me what you're plotting.

Archie


Hehehehe,...you sure you want to know ??


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #224, 07-03-2006 12:49 PM
     


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #225, 07-16-2006 01:35 PM
      Hmm...Status report on the metal sculptures

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #226, 07-17-2006 11:17 PM
      How was it these pics never made it to this thread ?



[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 07-17-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #227, 07-20-2006 10:10 PM
      Archie I will be shining some light on the project in two weeks. Pm sent

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #228, 07-22-2006 02:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie I will be shining some light on the project in two weeks. Pm sent


Any word from Jim concerning the "Sculptured" art?



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #229, 07-22-2006 06:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Any word from Jim concerning the "Sculptured" art?


Info on the art on monday, but I will be shipping the beef to Archies next week along with the BULLíS-EYE project. The STOP IT parts will also be shipped to kevin's next week.Thanks for the BRIGHT ideas. Now its time to work on The Netherlands connection.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #230, 07-22-2006 06:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


Info on the art on monday, but I will be shipping the beef to Archies next week along with the BULLíS-EYE project. The STOP IT parts will also be shipped to kevin's next week.Thanks for the BRIGHT ideas. Now its time to work on The Netherlands connection.


I would love to have any one of the four additions on my project, but here u are adding all 4 components !

This car is going to be wicked sick !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #231, 07-22-2006 09:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

I will be shipping the beef to Archies next week .


That's a lota beef, I hope Archie doesn't choke on it.....



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #232, 07-23-2006 06:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
Info on the art on monday, but I will be shipping the beef to Archies next week along with the BULLíS-EYE project. The STOP IT parts will also be shipped to kevin's next week.Thanks for the BRIGHT ideas. Now its time to work on The Netherlands connection.


lol, connection status is 2 of 6...getting ready to milk the darn cow ! She's been eating a lot lately....its about time she's delivering some milk.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #233, 07-25-2006 11:21 PM
     

The Bull eyes project is going to really be worth watching.

I can't wait to see how it turns out.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #234, 07-27-2006 07:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Any word from Jim concerning the "Sculptured" art?




troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #235, 08-04-2006 03:04 AM
      the "Sculptured" art is on it's way! Pics to follow

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #236, 08-04-2006 07:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

the "Sculptured" art is on it's way! Pics to follow




The pics of Troyboy's actual wheels !



HRE 541s i believe ? I will let troyboy give u the specifics on the sizes.


.
Imagine those on this !



Oh my.

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #237, 08-04-2006 07:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


.



They're beautiful.

A


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #238, 08-04-2006 11:44 PM
      Thanks for posting the pics exoticse, and thanks for complement Archie. The rims are HRE 541's with 19 x 8.5 in front with a 2" lip and 20 x12 in rear with a 5" lip. Archie you should have the rims by Thursday and the tires by wednesday. Hopefully you will have all the parts for the next project by Thursday or Friday.....

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #239, 08-07-2006 06:55 PM
      Man, those sculptured 541's are simply beautiful and the phat lips will leaves me speechless!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #240, 08-08-2006 03:26 PM
      Hey Troyboy. I just got off the phone with Archie....your beef has arrived.


Make sure you've packed your heart medication prior to your arrival?

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #241, 08-08-2006 09:20 PM
      Man, those babies are BIG

Curley & Troy..... Both of you guys are NUTS!!!!!! and Imean that in a good way.

Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #242, 08-10-2006 08:14 PM
     



motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #243, 08-10-2006 08:18 PM
      Where are the brakes??? Man are those like the largest tires on a Fiero ever?

It's good to have an open mind,
just not so open that your brains fall out. Joe


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #244, 08-10-2006 09:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by motoracer838:

Where are the brakes??? Man are those like the largest tires on a Fiero ever?

It's good to have an open mind,
just not so open that your brains fall out. Joe


The brakes are on the to-do list and it's a long list, and as for brains, mine fell out a long time ago.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #245, 08-11-2006 09:15 AM
      C'mon, you know the guy is not going to spend that kind of money on rims and then go with stock brakes. hehehe

Trust me troyboy has that area covered big time.

Excellent choice on the wheels troy, they look even better than i imagined.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #246, 08-11-2006 01:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:





Boy-O-boy....this chopper is going to have some nice goodies. Especially this in the pic, hehe.


Oh yeah, the Lamborghini normally roll with 345's using a 20x13 with a 6" lip. Troy's morbid phat lips are 5"



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #247, 08-14-2006 12:43 PM
      Troyboy stopping by Archie's shop to check on his baby and getting a fresh shot.



A shot of the new goodies also to be installed (NXS headlamps) !

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #248, 08-14-2006 01:32 PM
      Hey Troyboy, what did the engine sound like? Let me guess....


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #249, 08-15-2006 12:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:




wicky (wickyman528e@aol.com) MSG #250, 08-21-2006 12:20 AM
      Anything new to show us?! I would like to see any progress thus far! Awesome looking car! Love teh chop tops!

DotTC MSG #251, 08-21-2006 01:07 AM
      wow So many pictuers, so many cool ideas..



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #252, 08-21-2006 02:10 AM
      Thanks, Updates comming soon. We still have to mount the rear tire on the rim and work on the lights.



wicky (wickyman528e@aol.com) MSG #253, 08-21-2006 12:48 PM
      I think it looks bad ass with the stock tail lights in that pic! Very cool. I am not digging the whale tail though, kind of makes it look funky. It's all good though. Very awesome project! It is inspiring me a lot!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #254, 08-21-2006 03:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by wicky:

I think it looks bad ass with the stock tail lights in that pic! Very cool. I am not digging the whale tail though, kind of makes it look funky. It's all good though. Very awesome project! It is inspiring me a lot!



Don't you worry, these are the very 1st stages. Troy and Archie going to "tweek" it.



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #255, 08-21-2006 03:44 PM
     



Will (william.lucke@gmail.com) MSG #256, 08-21-2006 03:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

How about a little update today........

I finally have PIP working on my shop PC.

There was a little change of plans when we went to opening up the wheel wells. Earlier I had said that we were going to do it just as Russ had done it in his thread. I still think that the method Russ described so well is a good way to do it, however, we decided to do it a bit differently after all.

The IMSA body (along with some other body kits like my Fino & Finale) have what I call a wheel well liner return on the insides of the wheel wells. Now on my Fino & Finale kits, we don't have to open up the wheel well to put on big wide tires, but on the IMSA you have to open them up.

On the picture below the red "X"'s indicate the area I call the wheel well liner returns. They allow you to uns a stock Fiero wheel well liner without modifying the liners. We wanted to open up the wheel wells but still retain the ability to use the stock wheel well liners.



So we marked off the area we wanted to remove on the lip while still retaining the returns. You can see where we drilled a couple of holes from the inside to mark the area where the returns were on the inside. that way we could cut the lips off & keep the return area where it belongs.



The lips we cut off looked like this.........



The cut Wheel wells look like this........







I'll show you what we did next in a few minutes........

Archie


 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Then we took a strip of sheet metal & with a few self tapping sheet metal screws installed it in the wheel well Archie (<~~~ I know I did that on purpose)





Then we laid up fiberglass on the inside.......





Then, the next day, we removed the sheet metal.......





Archie

Blast from the past: Have you talked to Doug/Sage/Whomever about modifying the molds so that the pieces are like this from the get-go and don't have to be modified?
Good idea. I like that the stock wheel house liners can still be used.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #257, 08-21-2006 05:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:





All I can say Archie is, WOW. I almost fell out of my chair.


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #258, 08-21-2006 05:31 PM
      This thread keeps getting better and better, but like wicky said, not liking the wing.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #259, 08-21-2006 07:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


All I can say Archie is, WOW. I almost fell out of my chair.


I know, I feel the same way.

They look unbelievable.

This pic shows kinda how the cutout is going to be in front of the light...



How about a profile shot.



Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #260, 08-21-2006 08:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Will:

Blast from the past: Have you talked to Doug/Sage/Whomever about modifying the molds so that the pieces are like this from the get-go and don't have to be modified?
Good idea. I like that the stock wheel house liners can still be used.


I'm sure Doug has been following this thread, or at least he was watching it when we were modifying the body.

You have to understand that making the modifications to the molds to do the wheel wells would be very expensive.

I'm sure he already has a pretty good investment in buying the molds & I'd expect that he's only selling about 5 bodies a year.

It would take several years to get a R.O.I. for the mold modifications that would be needed. So I wouldn't expect that it's a top priority at this time.

Archie


wicky (wickyman528e@aol.com) MSG #261, 08-21-2006 08:59 PM
      Those headlights are tight! Who makes them, and where can one purchase these? I would seriously do it, but I am sure we are looking at 300-600 bucks a set?

topher_time (lost_caffeine@yahoo.com) MSG #262, 08-21-2006 09:36 PM
      Those light are off a newer NSX, they run about $1200, each. You can get them from your local Acura dealer. Anyways, nice build, I can't wait to see it done.

LT-5Fiero (lilmac@sc.rr.com) MSG #263, 08-21-2006 09:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by topher_time:

Those light are off a newer NSX, they run about $1200, each. You can get them from your local Acura dealer. Anyways, nice build, I can't wait to see it done.


$801 each from AutoPartsPeople


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #264, 08-22-2006 07:54 PM
     

Whoaaa ! Troy those look even better than i thought they would.

Absolutely incredible, ....worth every penny !



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #265, 08-22-2006 09:50 PM
     



slade1274 MSG #266, 08-23-2006 08:19 AM
      another lighting option.... I like the ones above better though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-NSX-Super-GT-Head-Light-Kit-Special_W0QQitemZ8076664210QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33710QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #267, 08-23-2006 12:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by slade1274:

another lighting option.... I like the ones above better though.


I agree. The ones that Troyboy have are a complet kit whereas the Honda headlamp kit, you'll need the "extras" and that's where the cost go's up and possibly other issues. That doesn't include the cost of shipping to the U.S.

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wicky (wickyman528e@aol.com) MSG #268, 08-23-2006 12:39 PM
      Did ayoe else feel like it sounds like a bad repeat of "all your base"? lol Good old zero wing ad their horrible traslations!

HitesFiero (hitesfiero@yahoo.com) MSG #269, 08-23-2006 02:17 PM
      All your Fiero's are belong to us! hehe

wicky (wickyman528e@aol.com) MSG #270, 08-23-2006 05:24 PM
      LOL Yeah they do. Hilarious crap man! Any new updates guys?! I am greedely awaiting updates here! lol

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #271, 08-23-2006 07:41 PM
     


PaulJK MSG #272, 08-24-2006 04:51 AM
      Honestly, I think I liked the factory hideaway headlights better but, I've never seen a rearend (on a car) look as good as this one. WOW !

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #273, 08-24-2006 05:38 PM
      Archie, the lights are looking great! I feel like a kid waiting for x-mas. Did you get the specs that I sent you?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #274, 08-25-2006 11:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:





Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #275, 08-25-2006 11:51 PM
      Well, I guess we'll have to show you the steps we are going thru to finish off the headlight installation.

After the last post I made we made some carboard cutouts for the hood the new headlights. Then we removed the hood. Here is a picture of the underside of the cardboard & the area around it ground down so we can lay up some fiberglass in that whole area.



After the glass cured we removed the cardboard & reinstalled the hood.....





Then it's time to start making the pocket in front of the headlight assemblies.....

Looks kind crude but we do it like this all the time....





...........


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #276, 08-26-2006 12:03 AM
      Photochopped it alittle.
Filled in the area around the lights for you and made what would be an easy mod to the grill. And smoothed the chin spoiler.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #277, 08-26-2006 12:11 AM
      After putting in all that metalwork, We laid fiberglass mat across the joints. That way we would have a solid modification when we laid up the fiberglass on the underside of the headlight bucket...... Here is a view fron the underside right after we removed the nose....



Then we remove the steel & the straps from the outside & figerglass the insdie surface real nice ...... like this....





Now, you may have asked what's up with this little notch we've taken out of the hood and added to the nose of the car?



Several days ago when we were doing our early fitting of the headlights, we noted that when opening the hood the corner of the hood would hit on area of the headlight that is under the hood. Now we could have designed custom hinges for the hood but that would take a lot of time. Or we could have notched the headlight but for what these things cost, I'm not gonna chance it. So we came up with the idea to keep the part that was interferring stationary. Like this.......




troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #278, 08-26-2006 12:17 AM
      Thanks for the update Archie. Hey fourpoint9 could you add this to the Photoshop replacing the turn signals.



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #279, 08-26-2006 12:31 AM
      Here we have the nose back on the car & we trial fitted the headlights back into it just to make sure we're going to add the next layer of glass in the right areas .....





Now we're ready to lay the final layer of glass to the outside, we gring the Gelcoat out of the fiberglass parts so there will be a strong bond between the nose fiberglass & the new glass we're going to lay up.



Here's what it looks like after the final layer of glass matt.......





Monday we should finish up these headlight openings by using a little body filler & a lot of sandpaper......

See you then.

Archie


Sourmug MSG #280, 08-26-2006 01:18 AM
      Wow Archie, it's looking great! Thanks for taking the time to post all the pictures and the write-up.

Nolan


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #281, 08-26-2006 07:34 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Wow Archie, it's looking great! Thanks for taking the time to post all the pictures and the write-up.

Nolan


You're very welcome.

I hope I'm giving enough detail so that people realize that it is really labor intensive & takes quite some time to do.

But it can be done by anyone who can think ahead & use the right materials.

Stay tuned.

Archie


RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #282, 08-26-2006 08:04 AM
      Ahhhh....More ideas ...Great buil-up Archie. Awesome job. Congrats Troyboy.

Bob


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #283, 08-27-2006 09:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by RCR:

Ahhhh....More ideas ...Great buil-up Archie. Awesome job. Congrats Troyboy.

Bob


Thanks, Archie and his crew are top notch. No matter how crazy of an idea I come up with, they bring it to life. I cant wait to see what they do with the interior.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #284, 08-29-2006 12:51 AM
      Troy, Curley, I know you guys are sitting up waiting for an update.

However, I had to take the wife to the Hospital yesterday & again today. I left the shop at 10AM today & Rob was working on it but I was too burned out to stop by there tonite on the way home to take pics. I'll catch you up tomorrow morning.

Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #285, 08-29-2006 10:08 AM
      We should have final pics tonite.





Archie


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #286, 08-29-2006 11:24 AM
     

Man Archie,....that is some good work !


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #287, 08-29-2006 04:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

We should have final pics tonite.





Archie


lol, I can't stop looking at the pics. Once again Archie great work!!


Icelander (whit@dubhlinn.com) MSG #288, 08-29-2006 04:51 PM
      Hope the wife's OK Archie!

You do great work!



Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #289, 08-29-2006 06:47 PM
      Nice ideas and buildup going on here ! The nsx lights look real good...
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
Thanks for the update Archie. Hey fourpoint9 could you add this to the Photoshop replacing the turn signals.

I was just wondering about these...tried a rough "lights" photoshop with this pic
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Archie
aha

dimensions are most likely off here but I bet the combo will look great together..nice work and nice find.




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #290, 08-29-2006 07:58 PM
      I had hoped to post final pics of the lights mounted & with the hood & front end in white primer.

However, when prepairing the hood for primer we found several "Voids" under the gelcoat on that scoop that's in the hood. We decided to fix them now & thus, we've delayed the pics 'til tomorrow morning.

Rob spent a lot of today fussing with the gaps around the lights & the shapes from side to side of the headlight scoops, but they're lookin great.

Just when you think you're done something else pops up.

Archie

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PaulJK MSG #291, 08-30-2006 02:32 AM
      Welcome to My world .... that's been happening to me with my kitcar for ...oh.....about 4 years now ......

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #292, 08-30-2006 03:29 PM
      I think you'll approve.......









I also have an appointment to get the big wheels/tires mounted tomorrow morning.

At first when I talked to the guy he said he didn't think he could mount them. Then I sent him pictures of the wheels & he wrote back that they should be able to do it.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Archie


ITALGT MSG #293, 08-30-2006 05:24 PM
      Now THAT is looking sexy... very nice work indeed, I love how the body lines flow so well with each other with those headlights... looks like a factory supercar.

Wicked stuff, Archie, wicked stuff...

Brett


shawnkfl (kmn9312@knology.net) MSG #294, 08-30-2006 05:34 PM
      i just have to say, it's not my taste. but, the craftsmanship you do archie is amazing to say the least. you've made those look like they've always been there. i wish i could afford to let you tear into my car.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #295, 08-30-2006 06:27 PM
      Words can't express how I feel about the outstanding job you have done Archie.

Thank You Archie for making the NSX pipe dream a reality.

Troy


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #296, 08-30-2006 10:32 PM
     

The cool part is now that troyboy has broken the seal, Archie is now seasoned enough to perform it again for someone else who might want it.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #297, 08-30-2006 10:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Words can't express how I feel about the outstanding job you have done Archie.

Thank You Archie for making the NSX pipe dream a reality.

Troy


Your Welcome.

Thank you for letting us play with expensive parts that I would have been afraid to buy on my own.

I gotta say they look great.

edited to add>>> I gotta add that Rob (the guy who made this happen) really adopted this headlight project & insisted on getting it perfect.


 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

The cool part is now that troyboy has broken the seal, Archie is now seasoned enough to perform it again for someone else who might want it.


Well, you gotta remember that the modifications that we did to the nose were done to a Figerglass nose. The same mods would be a lot harder to do to a soft plastic Fiero nose.

Archie

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #298, 08-31-2006 08:14 PM
      Well I drove into Chicago today just 7 blocks South of the City center to get Troy's 20x12" wheels fitted with the equally huge rubber he bought.

You'll recall that we had a little bit of trouble previously getting thse units joined together.

No problem this time. I took them to Lee's Foreign Car Service at 727 South Jefferson St., Chicago, IL 60607.

I'm very impressed at how I was treated by everyone there. Let me tell you my story......

I drove around the block twice by the time I realized that there was no place I could park legally. So I stuck my truck into a drive right behind the company truck. I stepped inside & found my contact, Gabriel & he sent the tire expert out with me to unload my truck. By then another employee, returning from a test drive, was tooting for me to move the truck (I was blocking a drive to another building they have there). Anyway, he backed out into the street & I backed out & went around the block again while he pulled his car into the other lot. By the time I returned, this employee had moved the company truck a little forward so I'd have a place to park.

I then hurried inside & asked Gabriel if I could take some pictures of the tires being mounted. He said "Sorry, they're already mounted & we're balancing them now" looking down at one of Troy's assemblies on the balancing machine. So I didn't get any pictures of the tire machine that mounted these babies. But it was a beauty, it made the one Curley showed in another thread look like an antique.

Wow, What service!!!!! I'm gonna send everyone I know there.

I want to give a shout out to:

Gabriel Kenneth <~~~~ Rim & Tire Specialists & to the Manager Jerry Sang I'm really happy with the service I got today.

Now, does anyone want to see what they look like on the car????

Archie

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #299, 08-31-2006 08:21 PM
      roll out the beef.

motoracer838 (jmartin@musicunveiled.com) MSG #300, 08-31-2006 08:34 PM
      Man this has been a long time coming, don't keep us waiting!!!

Joe


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #301, 08-31-2006 09:32 PM
     







............


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #302, 08-31-2006 09:34 PM
     







Hope you like it, I do.

Archie


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #303, 08-31-2006 09:39 PM
      Holy SH*T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #304, 08-31-2006 10:12 PM
      I wish we could see it without the chin spoiler

RCR (rcrabine@comcast.net) MSG #305, 08-31-2006 10:18 PM
      That car is badass (ahem...except for the chin spoiler - it droops down on a wierd angle).

Beautiful job Archie (and crew).

Bob


THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #306, 08-31-2006 10:22 PM
      Sorry that I have to say this. But the front Chin spoiler ruins the body's lower line (when looking at the car from the side). In other wards the lower line of the chin is off. Besides that that car looks great! One very rewarding product!

JG


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #307, 08-31-2006 10:26 PM
      I'm sure it will be changed. We won't have to convince them to do that.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #308, 08-31-2006 10:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

I'm sure it will be changed. We won't have to convince them to do that.


Yeah troyboy is well aware of the awkward angle and has long been exploring various options before deciding which way he wants to go.



THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #309, 08-31-2006 10:36 PM
      Thank GOD!

JG


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #310, 08-31-2006 11:12 PM
      Wow Archie the wheels look awesome, and the car shows great in the daylight. Now that stage one is almost complete, time for stage two after the show......

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #311, 09-01-2006 09:37 PM
     

Saber49 (saber61@hotmail.com) MSG #312, 09-01-2006 10:07 PM
      that car looks sweet... i didn't think those lights would look so great but wow... nice work!



GKDINC MSG #313, 09-01-2006 10:10 PM
      Is this a preview of things to come ^^^^^
Looks good
thanks Gary


Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #314, 09-02-2006 12:09 AM
      Cool

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #315, 09-02-2006 12:12 AM
      Here's what I was thinking.

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 09-02-2006).]

Reise (ozzman6272000@yahoo.com) MSG #316, 09-02-2006 12:56 AM
      I think that the car looks absolutely awesome!!!! will anything be done with the doors? they seem a little awkward compared to the body lines.....I hope that the door handles get shaved and so does that trim molding that goes on the door.....also I'd leave the chin spoiler on and open up the mouth a little bit.....I have followed your work for a little bit now archie and I will definately be knocking on your door for a choptop,rocker covers,and chin spoiler in late 0'7 possibly early '08 depends on the situation at home i.e. the g/f. great job on this thing....almost looks like the concept that would steal the market and send the corvette boys to buy a fiero!!!!!

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #317, 09-02-2006 02:41 AM
      An option for the chin spoiler. thanks for the photo shop Fie Ro


But as for the chin spoiler side profile, relax E-Z Fix. The spoiler will stay on until a curb or road kill takes it off, then I will look into other options that are on the drawing board.


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #318, 09-02-2006 06:36 AM
      Awesome! I gotta see this car when you get it home Troy!!! I'm in N.Merrick, so let me know when it's in town!

Archie, great job! maybe I'll yank both kids outta college so I can have you do one car for me....

ps if you are interested I can photochop the existing chin with minimum mods that could blend in better. That is till you go up any driveway in our area and remove it.....


THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #319, 09-02-2006 10:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Here's what I was thinking.





Much better, and maybe getting rid off the side molding wont be a bad idea either. It makes the car look timeless. This car has enough money and time into it and shaving the moldings is not the place to get economical on it. (My 2 cents)



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #320, 09-02-2006 10:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Here's what I was thinking.





I like it, looks like a added side wall. Just what I had in mind.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #321, 09-02-2006 10:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tjm4fun:

Awesome! I gotta see this car when you get it home Troy!!! I'm in N.Merrick, so let me know when it's in town!

Archie, great job! maybe I'll yank both kids outta college so I can have you do one car for me....

ps if you are interested I can photochop the existing chin with minimum mods that could blend in better. That is till you go up any driveway in our area and remove it.....


I'll drop you a line when it gets home. I have an idea for the driveways that should work, but it's the things I don't see coming that worry me.... Are you going to Archies next week? flights from LI to Chicago only 39.99 each way on southwest. photochops welcome

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 09-02-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #322, 09-02-2006 11:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by THE BEAST:


Much better, and maybe getting rid off the side molding wont be a bad idea either. It makes the car look timeless. This car has enough money and time into it and shaving the moldings is not the place to get economical on it. (My 2 cents)


I was looking into shaving it but ran into two problems. First the molding on the front finders is not separate, it's part of the fiberglass mold with a matching void behind it. second in the rear the molding is part of a piece that supports the light housing. But I will talk to the master (Archie and crew) next weekend to see if it can be done. P.S. please send the 2 cents via paypal, I'll need it by the time the car is done.. hehehe Thanks for your input


jetman (dangerkitty@wideopenwest.com) MSG #323, 09-03-2006 01:50 PM
      The side moldings give the Fiero it's classic raked look while adding symmetry to the project. Sorry, couldn't resist the two cents. This is an outstanding project and I have all the admiration for the effort. The deep wells of those rear wheels set the project off in an attractive fashion. Great job so far, now let's see the paint!

THE BEAST (jgomez@ircc.cc.fl.us) MSG #324, 09-03-2006 02:30 PM
      Any time Troyboy

JG


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #325, 09-04-2006 12:02 AM
      ok, here is the fixed side view I did. ( I tried to extend your side moulding shadow thru the door didn;t turn out as well as I'd hoped cause the starting image was compressed, but you get the idea)
For the chin piece, I basically detached it along the line where it attaches, shaved the front edge along the top what would be around 1/2- 3/4" (quesstimate) and dropped the back part down about 3/4". the front would look the same as it does now, only the bottom openeing would be slightly narrower. That extra height in the front should extend it's life about 5 minutes or 1 steep driveway, whichever comes first.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #326, 09-04-2006 01:59 AM
      Sweeet!

Will-Martin MSG #327, 09-04-2006 02:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tjm4fun:

ok, here is the fixed side view I did. ( I tried to extend your side moulding shadow thru the door didn;t turn out as well as I'd hoped cause the starting image was compressed, but you get the idea)
For the chin piece, I basically detached it along the line where it attaches, shaved the front edge along the top what would be around 1/2- 3/4" (quesstimate) and dropped the back part down about 3/4". the front would look the same as it does now, only the bottom openeing would be slightly narrower. That extra height in the front should extend it's life about 5 minutes or 1 steep driveway, whichever comes first.



DAMN. That really is the Perfect Union. (and it's not even done yet!)



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #328, 09-06-2006 05:58 PM
      Archie the parts for faze 2 were shipped out today and should be at your place by next week.
The Netherlands connection will play a major role in the Perfect Union's completion.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #329, 09-06-2006 06:28 PM
     
I just noticed that the HRE center caps are on, hehe.

Edit: funny how we only dreamed, hehe

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20041015-1-036603-2.html

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #330, 09-07-2006 01:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Well, you gotta remember that the modifications that we did to the nose were done to a Figerglass nose. The same mods would be a lot harder to do to a soft plastic Fiero nose.

Archie




Hmmm,.... i wonder could someone just buy the fiberglass IMSA nose to ease the modification ?

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #331, 09-07-2006 09:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie the parts for faze 2 were shipped out today and should be at your place by next week.
The Netherlands connection will play a major role in the Perfect Union's completion.







Thanks Fie Ro


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #332, 09-07-2006 10:38 PM
     

Let the begging begin ! hehehehe


FieroRush88 (aaron.ordway@okstate.edu) MSG #333, 09-08-2006 02:04 PM
      it must just be me, but this car so far looks a lot worse than i thought it would. it just doesnt flow, it seems really awkward. the doors dont work, it sits too high, and the spoiler looks awful.

i do liek the hood and headlights, but the rest of the car seems kinda wack.

good luck on it, and maybe with paint it will shape up a bit, i certainly hope it does.

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HitesFiero (hitesfiero@yahoo.com) MSG #334, 09-08-2006 02:22 PM
     
 
quote
it must just be me, but this car so far looks a lot worse than i thought it would. it just doesnt flow, it seems really awkward. the doors dont work, it sits too high, and the spoiler looks awful.

i do liek the hood and headlights, but the rest of the car seems kinda wack.

good luck on it, and maybe with paint it will shape up a bit, i certainly hope it does.


I hope youíve got your asbestos suite ready!


jaskispyder MSG #335, 09-08-2006 03:48 PM
      I have to agree, so far it doesn't do much for me. But I wouldn't be one that is buying such a car anyway. I like the stock fiero body.

Jake_Dragon MSG #336, 09-08-2006 05:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:







Thanks Fie Ro


Oh how I hate you


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #337, 09-08-2006 07:25 PM
      Here's my tweek to the wing.
Also added a little to the bottom of the rockers and lower sides of the dam.


Lowered the rear for you XzotikGT

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fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #338, 09-08-2006 07:44 PM
      Might look like this from the rear

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XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #339, 09-08-2006 10:33 PM
      it would proly fix a lot if you wind the rear down so it sits level

tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #340, 09-09-2006 03:30 AM
      I keep looking and looking at this to see what is throwing the look off. Archie's post on the chin spoiler idea works.
I like 4.9's wing better. but I think after looking at it, those side mouldings have to go. they don;t flow with the lines of the car, the rear due to the flair line actually appear to curve in some of those pictures. if you remove that line,well, gimme a minute or two...


Steven Snyder (fiero@steventsnyder.com) MSG #341, 09-09-2006 03:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:

Here's my tweek to the wing.
Also added a little to the bottom of the rockers and lower sides of the dam.


Lowered the rear for you XzotikGT



That looks 100% better. Nice photoshop work there. I hope something gets done about the taillights, they don't look quite right with the widebody rear.. some 355 style lights would probably look nice on this car.



tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #342, 09-09-2006 04:05 AM
      ok, I know you didn't want to shave it, but:


hmmm, not sure about that either.... reminds me of another car.....maybe not.

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XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #343, 09-09-2006 04:34 AM
      now thats what I was talking about!!!! nice and evn all the way around. nice job 4.9

also, now that you fixed all the lower parts of the car ie, the chin skirts and rear bumper, it is ready.

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FieroRush88 (aaron.ordway@okstate.edu) MSG #344, 09-10-2006 11:40 PM
      The shaving helps a lot.

next to do somehting with those doors.

i know the problem right now. the more you try to modernize it, the more any piece from the original fiero starts to look bad on it.


Blackeco (keinemehrjagermeister@gmail.com) MSG #345, 09-11-2006 12:58 AM
      Shaving helps a lot, this car is absolutely sick, great work and thanks for all the progress updates.

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #346, 09-13-2006 01:25 AM
      this is perfeect to me.....not too much more work just a few tweaks. shaving it made the doors look like a lot of negative space.
 
quote
Originally posted by Steven Snyder:


That looks 100% better. Nice photoshop work there. I hope something gets done about the taillights, they don't look quite right with the widebody rear.. some 355 style lights would probably look nice on this car.




XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #347, 09-13-2006 01:26 AM
      this one i mean
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:

Here's my tweek to the wing.
Also added a little to the bottom of the rockers and lower sides of the dam.


Lowered the rear for you XzotikGT





Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #348, 09-13-2006 11:16 AM
      I think it's time that we have a little talk about the practicality & common sense that has to be considered when building a car.

Some have advocated that we lower the car to where the fenders hang over the rubber. That's not practical.

We went to a lot of trouble getting 13" wide tires mounted onto this car without sticking outside the lip of the wheel well. Now we would have to make the tires about 2" narrower to make them fit up inside the bodywork if it was lowered to get the look they are advocating.

You can look at hot roding type magazine & find pictures of cars that are slammed down over the tires/wheels. You'll notice on everyone of those cars that the tires are well inside the wheel wells & THAT'S NOT the look we are looking for.

THIS is the look we are looking for.......





We want the tires to be as wide as posible without exceeding the width of the body.



Let's be practical, this car is going to be driven on the streets of New York. So we may even have to raise the car a bit to clear the chuckholes without banging on the bodywork.

If someone was to lower the car as much as has been advocated, then the narrower tires will also begin to rub on the tops of the wheel well liners. If you want to slam your car down to where the tires are narrower & rub whenever you hit a chuckhole, then you go right ahead. But it will take away from the driveability.

As for the side molding. IMHO, I've not seen a trimless Fiero yet that was as practical as we want this car to be. For several reasons.......

1) Troy wants to retain the stock outside door handle. Removing the trim & leaving the stock door handle is going to be pretty hard to make look correct.

2) Removing the trim makes it so that you cannot remove the door panel without damaging the bodywork & paint.

3) This is the most important reason...... This IMSA body needs the parting line provided by the side trim to make it look right. You need something to define the side of the car & to define the angle of attack & the molding does just that.





So we are still having discussions on the side molding, but heavily leaning towards leaving it on & slamming the car is out of the question.

We will show you some pictures of the car when it's finished.

Thanks

Archie


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #349, 09-13-2006 05:08 PM
      its kinda funny that you are worried about chuckholes withe the rim/tire combo you guys chose. I Just think the car would look good if it were level. So if you were against lowereing the rear, then raise the front. Other than that I feel ya on the side trim part. Without it it does take away from the profile of the car.

Philphine (philphine@live.com) MSG #350, 09-13-2006 06:29 PM
      sorry i'm never able to post a pic, but on mine whoever smoothed out the trim either ground the doorhandle down more flush to the body and put a metal plate over it, or it's a flat handle from some other car. matches up ok with the trim gone though.

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #351, 09-13-2006 07:42 PM
      I like the rear up like that, but I'd lose the front chin spoiler and slam the front.. haha Muscle car style .

Nurb432 MSG #352, 09-13-2006 08:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

We got the body for this IMSA Chop Top from Doug at Fiero Warehouse. The parts look great, some very nice fiberglass. Thumbs up to Sage Glass Works, I wish he lived closer to me.

In the following pictures we are just trial fitting the panels to the car to see if we need to do anything special to make them fit properly. This is a loose fit, many of these panels are not even aligned or bolted together.

Try not to get ahead of yourselves but we have a lot of work to do to mount the body before we actually chop the body panels.




Archie



Excuse the ignorance, but does this mean that there are 'new' replacement body parts available ? I want to replace the rear clip next year and bumper cover on one of my GTs, and 'new' sounds better then 'used'.


UDLOSE (ericwfs@aol.com) MSG #353, 09-13-2006 08:10 PM
      driving in NY with those low profile tires?
With that kinda pothole action Id figure there would be some more sidewall width.
Plus the rims are too big. IMO

but archies points are dead on.

nice build


Philphine (philphine@live.com) MSG #354, 09-13-2006 09:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:



Thanks Fie Ro



what's the story here? did fie ro make this, or is it a sourse over there and he got it for you?


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #355, 09-13-2006 11:38 PM
      ya know, after atring at it for so long I finally figured out why the car looks lifted in the rear. In the picture I couldnt tell at first just how tall the rear tires are. The rears are taller than the fronts, but in the picture the tires look like fender gap. After staring at it for so long, I see that the gap in the rear is nearly the same as the front. So I guess a taller tire in the front with a slight lift?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #356, 09-14-2006 02:49 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Philphine:
what's the story here? did fie ro make this, or is it a sourse over there and he got it for you?


Fie ro


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #357, 09-14-2006 03:18 AM
      well, I did the shave pic for some perspective. to me with it shaved it looks too much like a mid 90's 300zx. Not that its a bad looking car but that was what I mean with the comment about it looking like another car.
I like the line you get, and going with black side molding works for me. I have it on my white 88 gt, and it gives a flow to the car.
the tires and rims will be fine here in ny. ya, some places are not so good, but out of the city limits it's pretty smooth. biggest concern here is road crowns on cross streets and driveway pans. with the 1" lower on my front and no chin, I hit my driveway if I don;t angle it perfectly. if I had any chin piece it would be dust. Archie is correct about the lowering being the worst thing for a car in this area, and probably alot of areas. besides, there is a legal limit you can get failed on for ground clearance, not that it is generally enforced, but it does exist 4.5" here I think in NY.
I can;t wait to see it done, it's gonna be nice, and really, it is Troyboy's car, he has the final say, he's payin for it and he's gonna be drivin it.


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #358, 09-14-2006 01:12 PM
      Archie please continue to post the progress pics. This car looks so awesome.
The work your shop puts out is amazing.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #359, 09-16-2006 02:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:

Archie please continue to post the progress pics. This car looks so awesome.
The work your shop puts out is amazing.



Yes.


I must say that, viewing the car in person is the only way to take-in everything at once. The pics do not do the car any justice. They're are enough items to view on the car for at least 3 hours. I saw it for nearly two days and I still didn't finish veiwing it.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #360, 09-18-2006 10:06 PM
     


That lip is money !



trots MSG #361, 09-19-2006 12:16 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Removing the trim & leaving the stock door handle is going to be pretty hard to make look correct.

in what sense? i left mine on, looks very correct.

 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Removing the trim makes it so that you cannot remove the door panel without damaging the bodywork & paint.


how so? people remove door panels all the time without damaging paint and bodywork.. shaving it actually makes it easier to remove the panel. ive removed mine plenty of times, never had any damage from the proccess.



Formula88 MSG #362, 09-19-2006 09:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by trots:


how so? people remove door panels all the time without damaging paint and bodywork.. shaving it actually makes it easier to remove the panel. ive removed mine plenty of times, never had any damage from the proccess.


The outer door skin, or the interior door panel? Aren't there body mounting points for the panel under the trim strip?


thumper_64735 (william.m.powell@us.army.mil) MSG #363, 09-19-2006 01:10 PM
      Hey Troy, I just got through reading the intire topic. Wicked car, wish I could afford to have Archie do something with mine! Where did you get your center console????? I would love to have something like that for mine when I redue the interior this winter. Keep up the excellent work, looks great!

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #364, 09-19-2006 06:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by thumper_64735:

Hey Troy, I just got through reading the intire topic. Wicked car, wish I could afford to have Archie do something with mine! Where did you get your center console????? I would love to have something like that for mine when I redue the interior this winter. Keep up the excellent work, looks great!


Thanks, the center console was made by Fie Ro.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/046970-12.html


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #365, 09-19-2006 09:18 PM
     
Another tasty angle.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #366, 09-21-2006 08:57 PM
      The interior parts from Fie Ro have arrived at Archie's. Once again thanks Fie Ro.

Now lets talk about color. Could someone please photo shop my car in this color, one with the black trim and one with trim painted same color as the car.





Thanks


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #367, 09-21-2006 10:06 PM
      A few of madcurl's pics of troyboy's ride leftover from the choptop reunion.







[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 09-21-2006).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #368, 09-21-2006 10:47 PM
     
Troyboy !

The man, (his brother), and his machine !



XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #369, 09-22-2006 12:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Another tasty angle.



thats gonna be my new inspiration for a while now.



XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #370, 09-22-2006 12:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Troyboy !

The man, (his brother), and his machine !



I think it was the pictures that made it look a bit off. In this picture it looks GOOD, just a lil fuzzy.



FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #371, 09-22-2006 12:07 AM
     



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #372, 09-22-2006 12:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:





sweet!! thanks!! like the mods too.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #373, 09-22-2006 01:29 PM
      could someone photoshop this pic in the pearl orange, with black trim.


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #374, 09-22-2006 04:13 PM
      Oranged:

..I think the black trim is a good "guideline" of what is going on at the sides..keep it up!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #375, 09-22-2006 04:53 PM
      Oh my!!!


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #376, 09-22-2006 05:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Oranged:

..I think the black trim is a good "guideline" of what is going on at the sides..keep it up!


Thanks Fie Ro, as my daughter would say "that looks Awesome"


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #377, 09-22-2006 05:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:





Mirrors?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #378, 09-22-2006 06:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:


Mirrors?


they will be stock and black for now, but I'm looking at some after market ones with side markers.
I just think it would be a good idea to get a feel for the car b4 I choose. Archie has the plans for the final mods and now It's time to focus on the interior and brakes .

what do you think about the color?

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 09-22-2006).]

jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #379, 09-22-2006 06:41 PM
      color is cool, I actualy thought about using the same color, then I found out that fiero meant "pride". Then I realized orange is considered to be the official gay color, so I put two and two together and came up with "gay pride" so now I couldn't possibly use that color and not feel wierd driving my car. But the color still looks great.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #380, 09-22-2006 06:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

color is cool, I actualy thought about using the same color, then I found out that fiero meant "pride". Then I realized orange is considered to be the official gay color, so I put two and two together and came up with "gay pride" so now I couldn't possibly use that color and not feel wierd driving my car. But the color still looks great.


LOL, One look at me and even if they think it I'm sure they will keep it to themselves.


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #381, 09-22-2006 06:52 PM
      I'm sorry for my previous comment I hope it doesn't effect your color decision. LOL I just couldn't live with that color on my fiero.

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #382, 09-22-2006 06:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

I'm sorry for my previous comment I hope it doesn't effect your color decision. LOL I just couldn't live with that color on my fiero.



no, but I may trash the orange tie my wife gave me. But it's the color she may replace it with that scares me. lol


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #383, 09-22-2006 07:08 PM
      Oh see there you go, your maried, you can get away with a "gay pride" car.

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #384, 09-22-2006 08:29 PM
      Don't let that GAY Pride thing go to your head, an arancio borealis Lamborghini color looks awesome on a fiero, especially a widebody.


[







I say go orange!


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #385, 09-22-2006 10:36 PM
      2006 seems to be the year of the orange Fiero.

jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #386, 09-22-2006 11:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

Don't let that GAY Pride thing go to your head, an arancio borealis Lamborghini color looks awesome on a fiero, especially a widebody.


I say go orange!


Oh well hate the sin not the sinner,

J/k


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #387, 09-22-2006 11:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

2006 seems to be the year of the Gay Pride Fiero.


Ok I'll quite the gay pride thing for now.

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 09-22-2006).]

gascarracer (ernestbauhofer@fuse.net) MSG #388, 09-22-2006 11:51 PM
      Hi FieroGTRwideboby,

Love your car. Tell us more.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #389, 09-22-2006 11:55 PM
      Now back on topic, I chose a light color to show the lines of the car.

chopfren-z MSG #390, 09-23-2006 01:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by gascarracer:

Hi FieroGTRwideboby,

Love your car. Tell us more.




http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058350.html


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #391, 09-23-2006 02:45 AM
      Troy,

Went to a really nice club tonight here in Orlando and there was an orange Gallardo roadster parked out front (and a black one too), damnnnnnnnn was that thing hot !!.

The color definatly pops. I couldn't take my eyes off of it, and there were tons of gorgeous women there, but my attention was transfixed on the car.

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gascarracer (ernestbauhofer@fuse.net) MSG #392, 09-24-2006 02:16 PM
      Thanks chopfren-z for the location of the build thread.



carbon MSG #393, 09-24-2006 06:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Oranged:

..I think the black trim is a good "guideline" of what is going on at the sides..keep it up!


That does look awesome... what headlights are those? They look Nissanish


5.0Vert (tyler@dfwstangs.net) MSG #394, 09-24-2006 06:54 PM
      The Lambo color looks absolutely stunning on the Fiero

[This message has been edited by 5.0Vert (edited 09-24-2006).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #395, 09-24-2006 10:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by gascarracer:

Hi FieroGTRwideboby,

Love your car. Tell us more.





All you will need to know.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058350.html

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058332.html




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #396, 09-26-2006 06:35 PM
      Hey Troy, did you're center caps come in?




troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #397, 09-26-2006 08:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by carbon:


That does look awesome... what headlights are those? They look Nissanish

They are 2004 Acura NSX headlights


 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Hey Troy, did you're center caps come in?
No, but I have to check with Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #398, 09-30-2006 02:23 PM
      Just talked to Archie, they have started the interior mods. Pics to follow

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #399, 09-30-2006 09:47 PM
     

Sweet, was getting a little too quiet here hehehe !


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #400, 10-01-2006 09:23 AM
      Here are a few pics of the initial interior fitting.

Please understand that at this point I know the comsole cover is not level.







Archie


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #401, 10-01-2006 12:54 PM
      looking good, can't wait to see how it comes out.
(Insert stupid page owning comment here)

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #402, 10-01-2006 09:43 PM
     


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #403, 10-04-2006 05:39 PM
     

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-04-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #404, 10-04-2006 06:07 PM
      I ordered the parts for the dash from Audi today...WOW....$$$$. I will work on the Nav/dvd unit tonight. As for new pics...... Any new pics or updates Archie?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #405, 10-04-2006 07:10 PM
      [QUOTE]Originally posted by troyboy:

I ordered the parts for the dash from Audi today...WOW....$$$$. I will work on the Nav/dvd unit tonight. As for new pics...... Any new pics or updates Archie?


Just a few pics of the dash & console now working together.....











Archie



Philphine (philphine@live.com) MSG #406, 10-04-2006 07:58 PM
      you know, i don't care about modded interiors. if it all works and is halfway clean i can be happy with the stock one and just add a few guages and stereo. but that being said, i like that a lot. a whole lot.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #407, 10-04-2006 08:57 PM
      Wow, Archie that looks fantastic, I like your Idea for the shifter clearance.
Great job, and keep up the great work.

This is the nav/dvd unit for the dash


Dimensions: 7" (W) x 3-15/16" (H) x 6-5/16" (D)

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 10-04-2006).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #408, 10-05-2006 12:14 AM
     


Hmmmmm,.....You guys are giving me some good ideas on what to do with my V-8 Archie dash.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #409, 10-06-2006 06:46 PM
      More Dash parts arrived today! Archie you should have all the parts for the dash by the end of next week.


click to enlarge


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #410, 10-07-2006 02:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

More Dash parts arrived today! Archie you should have all the parts for the dash by the end of next week.


click to enlarge



Don't forget to pack the "button."


1986GTV8 MSG #411, 10-08-2006 06:17 PM
      That has to be the most Over the Top Fiero out there!

Insane.

John


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #412, 10-11-2006 10:23 PM
      More parts shipped off to Archie's today. Sorry for the blurry pic, but I could not keep my hand still.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #413, 10-16-2006 10:41 AM
     

Any updates ?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #414, 10-16-2006 07:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

More parts shipped off to Archie's today. Sorry for the blurry pic, but I could not keep my hand still.


I've had the same problem this year too....

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-16-2006).]

antinull.com MSG #415, 10-17-2006 12:27 AM
      really nice looking progress wish i was that talented

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #416, 10-17-2006 09:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Any updates ?





Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #417, 10-18-2006 10:34 PM
      Working on the mockup of the interior layout.

Troy, I'm going to email you a bunch of pictures then we gotta talk tomorrow morning, give me a call.







Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #418, 10-19-2006 06:14 AM
      Thanks for the update Archie. I will call you in the morning

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #419, 10-19-2006 02:06 PM
     


FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #420, 10-19-2006 06:42 PM
      What door panels are you guys gonna use????
Starting to look really great. Are we also gonna see digital guages?

Alex


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #421, 10-20-2006 06:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

What door panels are you guys gonna use????
Starting to look really great. Are we also gonna see digital guages?

Alex


Thanks Alex, we going to use modified Archie door panels. For the first set up we are going to use the same gauges that were use in Archie's roadster. The gauges will most likely be updated to a LCD display in the near future, I have my eyes on a few displays.


ltlfrari (dave_ellis_@hotmail.com) MSG #422, 10-20-2006 10:19 PM
      Shouldn't that say HVAC (not HAVC) ???

Oh, if only it were that easy, draw box on console, write HVAC on it and working a/c ta da...



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #423, 10-21-2006 12:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by ltlfrari:

Shouldn't that say HVAC (not HAVC) ???



It took almost 48 hours for someone to notice that.

Yet the small brakes get noticed right away.

Archie





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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #424, 10-21-2006 02:04 AM
      Hmm. I think it'll sound good!

antinull.com MSG #425, 10-24-2006 12:37 AM
      someones gonna be deaf in one ear ^_-

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #426, 10-26-2006 12:55 PM
      looking good Archie! Feel free to update at will

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #427, 10-26-2006 08:26 PM
     

I am about ready for some new pics !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #428, 10-28-2006 01:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

looking good Archie! Feel free to update at will







Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #429, 10-30-2006 10:16 PM
      Some updated pics of the interior mockup.

We got the front speakers mounted up under the dash pointed down.

We still have a little fitting on the door panels & we take it out to mount up the gages & other goodies.











Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #430, 10-30-2006 10:43 PM
      It's coming along very nicely.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 10-30-2006).]

Falcon Fiero (joelpatton1@comcast.net) MSG #431, 10-31-2006 12:53 AM
      That is just bitchin!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #432, 10-31-2006 02:09 PM
      Looks FANTASTIC Archie, Thanks for the fix (I'm a fiero junky) I needed it.

jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #433, 10-31-2006 03:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:




Archie


Where did the buttons come from?

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 10-31-2006).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #434, 10-31-2006 05:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:


Where did the buttons come from?




From a friend who resides over the "great pond." http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/046970-5.html


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #435, 10-31-2006 07:11 PM
      I knew that but where do you buy them? That guy over the pond hasn't told me.

Russ544 MSG #436, 10-31-2006 07:31 PM
      I've studied and studied this thread... but I just don't understand...... where's the "perfect onion"?

Russ544

[This message has been edited by Russ544 (edited 10-31-2006).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #437, 10-31-2006 09:35 PM
      Hey Troy, Give me a call tomorrow if you can.

I need to know if we need to add alittle more space between items in this pic.



Thanks

Archie

Russ, it's Perfect Union. Troy can tell you where I came up with that name.

A


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #438, 10-31-2006 10:07 PM
      Archie I will call you, I also emailed you before I saw your post.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #439, 10-31-2006 10:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie I will call you, I also emailed you before I saw your post.


I don't know what's wrong with my EMail but I haven't been getting any email at Archie@v8archie.com for the last 3 days & I don't know how to fix it.

Try to re email it to v8archie@v8archie.com if you will.

& call me tomorrow too.

Thanks

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #440, 11-01-2006 01:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

I knew that but where do you buy them? That guy over the pond hasn't told me.


Geezs man, you didn't look careful enough, hehe. Here's the linkie:
http://www1.int.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_in/~flN0YXRlPTEzOTk3MTUyODY=?~template=PCAT_AREA_S_BROWSE&glb_user_js=Y&shop=A_B2C_IN&p_init_ipc=X&~cookies=1

Type in "Window Switches" inside the product search. The ones in the U.S.A. are different vs. the ones Fie Ro purchsed. Fie Ro has the chrome switches so you made need to click on Europe map.

Now back to the show......More pics Archie, hehe.

Edit: issues with original linkie, hehe.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-01-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #441, 11-01-2006 06:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Russ, it's Perfect Union. Troy can tell you where I came up with that name.

A


The perfect union of parts, mods, and ideas, for a Union Guy. We were wondering when someone was going to ask that question.


Russ544 MSG #442, 11-01-2006 07:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


The perfect union of parts, mods, and ideas, for a Union Guy. We were wondering when someone was going to ask that question.


uhhhhh hu............... whatever........ it's making my eyes water.


Russ


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #443, 11-04-2006 02:12 PM
     


Time to start thinking about a new wheel
option #1
If I go with black leather and wood interior theme



option #2
If I go with a black leather and steel interior theme


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #444, 11-04-2006 10:18 PM
      I vote #2

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #445, 11-04-2006 11:31 PM
      I like number one without the wood.

PaulJK MSG #446, 11-05-2006 06:02 AM
      Well, make sure that you get a diameter and thickness that doesn't block your view of the instruments. I went through much trial testing when I did my interior swap and the steering wheel rim STILL blocks my view of the speedo and tach (I have the PISA Euro-interior)

Something else you may consider is installing a "back-up" alarm that beeps when you get too close to an object while backing up. It would be a shame to scrape all the beautiful work Archie & crew are doing ...

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 11-05-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #447, 11-05-2006 12:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:

Well, make sure that you get a diameter and thickness that doesn't block your view of the instruments. I went through much trial testing when I did my interior swap and the steering wheel rim STILL blocks my view of the speedo and tach (I have the PISA Euro-interior)

Something else you may consider is installing a "back-up" alarm that beeps when you get too close to an object while backing up. It would be a shame to scrape all the beautiful work Archie & crew are doing ...



thanks for the info, that is definitely something to consider when buying a steering wheel. As for the "back-up alarm" I have that covered, I will be installing one for the back and one in the front for those high curbs.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #448, 11-05-2006 12:48 PM
      If you're big like me, you'll have a "tight" fit using a 13" round sterring wheel. IMO it's better to purchase a newer style sterring wheel that has a flat area or isn't 100% round. The style that's in Dave's GBCT is better. I don't know if you'll find a newer style in a combo wood/leather that's not 100% round? I've wanted to change out #011's but, I don't want to buy another one, hehe.

88White3.4GT MSG #449, 11-05-2006 01:59 PM
      option #1 looks good...but without that wood.


Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #450, 11-05-2006 02:04 PM
      This could be one of the best fieros ever! 13" wide tires you guys are insane. Keep up the good work.

Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #451, 11-05-2006 02:06 PM
      BTW I like the use of Audi TT parts in the fiero.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #452, 11-05-2006 03:59 PM
     

Thanks for all the input, you guys on pff have given me a lot of great ideas. That being said, the wood does not seem to be a hit on the wheel. But what about wood going down the center console ( starting from the top near the radio and air vents and on the center console piece that has the buttons and goes up near the sub) I'm torn between wood and brushed aluminum.



The tan piece in this pic would be wood or brushed aluminum, and the gray base that houses the sub, and the dash are going to be black leather.

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 11-05-2006).]

jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #453, 11-05-2006 07:51 PM
      I like my rosewood stearing wheel alot.

This is the only picture I have of it


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #454, 11-06-2006 02:44 AM
      Please no wood in the interior. Definitely does not suit the character of the car.



PaulJK MSG #455, 11-06-2006 06:03 AM
      Troy, you might wanna check out these back-up alarms :

http://www.poronusa.com/index1.htm

They both indicate the distance to the object instead of just beeping. I have (2) of the voice units on my kitcar - one for the front and one for the back (great minds DO think alike)

As far as wood vs. aluminum, al the sports cars have brushed aluminum to look Hi-tech; wood is more old-school and elegant, like the jags have always had - and some of THEIR models are actually losing the wood for aluminum...

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 11-06-2006).]

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #456, 11-06-2006 03:39 PM
      no wood!!!!!!! Carbon Fiber!!!!!!!!

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #457, 11-06-2006 03:41 PM
      looking good!
The combo of parts blends nicely...good work and thinking overthere

 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
But what about wood going down the center console ( starting from the top near the radio and air vents and on the center console piece that has the buttons and goes up near the sub) I'm torn between wood and brushed aluminum.

The tan piece in this pic would be wood or brushed aluminum, and the gray base that houses the sub, and the dash are going to be black leather.


 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:
As far as wood vs. aluminum, al the sports cars have brushed aluminum to look Hi-tech; wood is more old-school and elegant, like the jags have always had - and some of THEIR models are actually losing the wood for aluminum...


Dont like the traditional wood either...but what if you choose some common wood(look) like white maple

Trick may be to make wood look almost like it isnt wood...
add some clearcoat with glitters and your done
Or some half-transparant overlay film with some tech-texture or CF texture...real CF or brushed aluminium instead may look look cool too...Anyway, whatever theme you decide to use on the midconsole or dash, try to incorporate the same theme/material carefully on the doorpanels or other parts to make the interior as a whole work as a union too...
sorry for the blabla hehe


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #458, 11-06-2006 07:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Please no wood in the interior. Definitely does not suit the character of the car.



I disagree, wood can look great in the fiero, just don't need alot of it.

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 11-06-2006).]

88White3.4GT MSG #459, 11-06-2006 09:18 PM
      maybe one the trim, a few parts in wood? Wood never really looks good in a car, unless its done right. I think the brushed alum. would be great, but is it too shiney? maybe a mix between the two?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #460, 11-06-2006 11:06 PM
      This is the link that shows the "FX Sheeting Laminates" options. Look around this site it has a lot of great products that could be used in our cars.
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/salesaccessories/alsa_deluxe_laminates_spk.htm

Thanks for the feed back


antinull.com MSG #461, 11-06-2006 11:20 PM
      i say brushed aluminum as the car has that kind of feel to it.............. it would look nice that way

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #462, 11-07-2006 03:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
I am about ready for some new pics !


 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:








madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #463, 11-11-2006 04:51 PM
     


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #464, 11-16-2006 01:54 PM
      How bout' some new pics? We ain't getting any younger you know, hehe.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-16-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #465, 11-17-2006 05:45 PM
      Could someone please Photoshop this idea for me.

using this pic

and this one


change the nose using this as a draft.




troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #466, 11-19-2006 12:08 AM
      Thanks fourpoint9


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #467, 11-19-2006 01:07 AM
      ya know, it looks great, but with the changes you keep making, I wonder if I will live long enough to see this car finished!!


tho I suspect it will be done long before I get mine repainted... so I should just shut up


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #468, 11-19-2006 01:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tjm4fun:

ya know, it looks great, but with the changes you keep making, I wonder if I will live long enough to see this car finished!!


tho I suspect it will be done long before I get mine repainted... so I should just shut up


Archie is working on a couple of mods on the car now, but this should be the last one .


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #469, 11-19-2006 09:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


Archie is working on a couple of mods on the car now, but this should be the last one .


Yeah, there's not a lot more we can change. Unless......... we go back and change things we've already changed ...........

Woo, need to think about that.

A


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #470, 11-22-2006 11:55 AM
      whats new Archie?

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #471, 11-22-2006 04:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

Please no wood in the interior. Definitely does not suit the character of the car.



I think that with the right color scheme, wood can work quite nicely in a Fiero:



I do wish the wheel matched the dash inserts... and that I'd have time to paint the upper dash portion black... and some new carpet... But it can certainly be done nicely as long as the exterior color compliments it (Green, Red, Burgundy, Darker Blues, Black, etc).

That being said... with the orange paint, I'd much rather see a cream or off-white leather used in this car - maybe with some (very) small color-matched orange accents. In which case some nice metal (brushed, not polished) accents along with black would also work just fine.

Coming along nicely!



Philphine (philphine@live.com) MSG #472, 11-22-2006 09:41 PM
      i wouldn't do wood there. i have one in my convertible, but i'm thinking sort of neo-classic with that. this is about the only pic of it here on the forum...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030204-1-019647.html


i was playing with a detatchable steering wheel adapter you might like though, to add to the "high tech" factor. your car seems too high techy (that's a technical term) styled for wood.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #473, 11-29-2006 11:12 PM
      This should give you wood.

We've finally finalized exactly what the front & back ends of this car are going to look like when they're done. We also have recieved almost all of the major parts it's going to take to finish the outside of the car.

Today I feel like we've made the last turn & are moving into the home stretch.

Here's a few pics from today as we are doing limited work on the nose until the last of the lights gets here. Then it's full speed ahead.

Also we are working on the new backend & we began the wiring on the interior today.

I'll be on the road all day tomorrow, on a trip to pick up some new transmissions, so the report on tomorrow's progress will be Thursday morning.

Archie










XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #474, 11-30-2006 12:04 AM
      what is that third photo?



jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #475, 11-30-2006 12:54 AM
      I'm wondering the same thing, a mistake maybe, or will some part of it find its place on the perfect union?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #476, 11-30-2006 07:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

what is that third photo?



That's the nose of a Ferrari F-40 kit we also make.


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #477, 11-30-2006 02:38 PM
      that's what it looked like. Just didn't understand why it was there. Guess I will have to wait and see.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #478, 11-30-2006 03:07 PM
     

New pics ??


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #479, 11-30-2006 06:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


That's the nose of a Ferrari F-40 kit we also make.


So its just a little product placement or does it actually have something to do with the car?


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #480, 11-30-2006 10:33 PM
      A popular "urban legend" back in the olden days (the '60's) was that people watching TV were susceptible to subliminal messages. According to the legend, producers of TV shows could insert a single frame of a product in the video tape of the TV show & people would be inspired to go out & buy that product.

I know that it worked because after every episode of Bonanza I took a Bayer Asprin.

So I'm experimenting to see if that still works.

Archie


 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:


So its just a little product placement or does it actually have something to do with the car?




AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #481, 11-30-2006 10:56 PM
      LMAO

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #482, 11-30-2006 11:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

A popular "urban legend" back in the olden days (the '60's) was that people watching TV were susceptible to subliminal messages. According to the legend, producers of TV shows could insert a single frame of a product in the video tape of the TV show & people would be inspired to go out & buy that product.

I know that it worked because after every episode of Bonanza I took a Bayer Asprin.

So I'm experimenting to see if that still works.

Archie




I just ordered one, now I know why.


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #483, 12-01-2006 12:41 AM
      Me too. But I need it sliced and diced so I can have the worlds first ultra widebody f40 on dubs.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #484, 12-01-2006 06:12 PM
      Archie did the new parts from FL and CA arrive today.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #485, 12-01-2006 11:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie did the new parts from FL and CA arrive today.


Yes both packages came in today.

Installation of electronics in the interior of that car was the primary focus today. We did stick one of the lights in the front just to see what they look like.







That's Kris's arm in there holding the light while I took the picture.

............



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #486, 12-01-2006 11:36 PM
      In the mean time, We've Got Tunes & Maps & Video

Rob & Kris still have a long way to go on the interior wiring but they have the amps mounted & hooked up. The radio thingie with navigation hooked up & working......

The mapping system is showing a map for someplace in the LA area because it has now reception inside my building & I'd assume the area that is on the screen is the area where it was tested/built/supplied from.....



This is the Daytime view.......



Night view..........



This is with it's mouth open to eat another plastic donut.



The wiring of all the stuff is a maze.....



We found that the navigation unit had to be mounted flat & level. The only place left to mount it was under the console. See it here at the back end of the console.



Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #487, 12-02-2006 12:39 AM
      Now that's something new at Archie's......Stereo systems.

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #488, 12-02-2006 03:27 AM
      My Navigation did the same thing. It was set at some place in L.A. until I pulled the car out to get a GPS signal. but I thought they stopped making the units that require a seperate box a while ago.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #489, 12-02-2006 04:53 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

My Navigation did the same thing. It was set at some place in L.A. until I pulled the car out to get a GPS signal. but I thought they stopped making the units that require a seperate box a while ago.



It's the new system from Clarion that just hit the market for 2007. The separate unit holds the 30 GB hard drive windows driven system. The nav system runs off of the HD rather than a DVD.

Info:
http://www.clarion.com/us/en/newstopics/index_2006/061121_01/index.html

http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2006/navigation/navigation/NAX970HD/us-en-product-pf_1134643389386.html

http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2006/multimedia/multimedia_source_units/MAX675VD/us-en-product-pf_1134643389338.html



XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #490, 12-02-2006 05:18 AM
      Mine does to, and it is all in the dash. I think My HDD is a bit smaller though. I got the Pioneer AVIC z1

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/division/demo/0,,2076_310069681,00.html#AVIC-HOME

you can see it in my cardomain page in my sig. I think it is in page 6.


I gotta go check the one you got out. Clarion is a really good brand.

add...

Just checkeed it out. I see why they had to mount your setup like that. I didnt know your NAV was a seperate box. I had that problem when I had an Eclipse setup in my car. I hated having to find a spot for that brain box. Slapped it under the seat and that thang would always get caught when I would slide the seat around.

But your setup is really nice. What does the rest of yoyur system consist of?



Kristian V MSG #491, 12-02-2006 05:33 AM
      In the pic below the space for the DVD/GPS unit looks tilted. Will the screen be visible from the driver position with this setup?
And even if it does, it's a bad angle at daytime, imagine the sun shining on the unit, you being in unknown terain. (Needing to se the map/directions.)
Just a thought! Nice buildthread though.
It's given me a lot of idťas, and scaring the he#§%ll out of my wallet.

 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:







kwagner MSG #492, 12-02-2006 07:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kristian V:

It's given me a lot of idťas, and scaring the he#§%ll out of my wallet.



Now there's a sig-worthy quote!


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #493, 12-02-2006 07:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

Mine does to, and it is all in the dash. I think My HDD is a bit smaller though. I got the Pioneer AVIC z1

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/division/demo/0,,2076_310069681,00.html#AVIC-HOME

you can see it in my cardomain page in my sig. I think it is in page 6.


I gotta go check the one you got out. Clarion is a really good brand.

add...

Just checkeed it out. I see why they had to mount your setup like that. I didnt know your NAV was a seperate box. I had that problem when I had an Eclipse setup in my car. I hated having to find a spot for that brain box. Slapped it under the seat and that thang would always get caught when I would slide the seat around.

But your setup is really nice. What does the rest of yoyur system consist of?


I just check out your set up on cardomain NICE. I was looking at the same unit from Pioneer but I ran from the price, but the joke was on me the two parts from Clarion were about the same price. They both have the HDD, It's a great option.

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 12-02-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #494, 12-02-2006 08:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Kristian V:

In the pic below the space for the DVD/GPS unit looks tilted. Will the screen be visible from the driver position with this setup?
And even if it does, it's a bad angle at daytime, imagine the sun shining on the unit, you being in unknown terain. (Needing to se the map/directions.)
Just a thought! Nice buildthread though.
It's given me a lot of idťas, and scaring the he#§%ll out of my wallet.



we have made some changes to the layout to make it more driver and daytime friendly. Archie and crew are doing a great job at taking all that into consideration, and making sure my "pipe dreams" are functional. ( not a ez job when they have to work on my car and curly's car at the same time ) Some days we must drive the crew crazy.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #495, 12-02-2006 08:22 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Some days we must drive the crew crazy.


Not you, it's that other guy......


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #496, 12-02-2006 08:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

What does the rest of yoyur system consist of?




1. Polk/MOMO MM2084 8" 4-ohm subwoofer
2. Polk/MOMO MMC 690 6"x9" 3-way Speakers
3. Rockford Fosgate Punch P5002 125W x 2 Car Amplifier
4. Rockford Fosgate Punch P3001 150W x 1 Car Amplifier

nothing to crazy just wanted good tunes for the ride to the shows.


PaulJK MSG #497, 12-02-2006 09:47 AM
      The location on the Nav unit looks like the casino in Hawiian Gardens

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #498, 12-02-2006 12:39 PM
      where you puttin the 6x9's



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #499, 12-02-2006 12:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

where you puttin the 6x9's



Archie found a way to fit them in the front dash. They were a major pain in the *ss, due to the fact that they were over sized 6x9's.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #500, 12-02-2006 01:12 PM
      The stock turn lamps are non-popish and outdated and is need of an replacements. Those fog lamps are a perfect "pop" and match for the NSX headlamps. Funny how those PIAA's have a history, hehe.

 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Not you, it's that other guy......



I wonder who's that..


Hehe.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-02-2006).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #501, 12-02-2006 09:21 PM
      Have you decided on the type of stick shift/knob handle you're going to use?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-02-2006).]

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #502, 12-02-2006 09:59 PM
      Madcurl, what's a non-poppish? LOL



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #503, 12-03-2006 12:18 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Have you decided on the type of stick shift/knob handle you're going to use?


Arrived at Archie's Friday




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #504, 12-04-2006 09:46 PM
      A little update.

We're working on the nose, tail & on the interior right now.

Not much to show on the interior got more stuff in there working then we had the other day. But not much to take pictures of.

We're not showing the new rear end design until Troy approves it.

But here's the nose, in process........







Archie


Sage (sgwfiberglass@gmail.com) MSG #505, 12-04-2006 10:21 PM
      Lookin good!

HAGO!


Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #506, 12-04-2006 10:36 PM
     
Ohhh man, now I have to make mine look like that. Very nice.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #507, 12-04-2006 11:37 PM
      Looking great Archie. check your email

antinull.com MSG #508, 12-05-2006 08:07 PM
      cant wait to see the final product this is coming out intresting

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #509, 12-05-2006 10:37 PM
      Once again we had to take the nose off to fo fiberglassing inside. We also have to find a way to mount the driving lights so they can be serviced in the future. When we finally mount the nose for the last time it will be glassed in, we're trying to mount them so that they can be serviced down the road.





You may have noticed in the last nose pictures a single tooth sticking down & another sticking up. We used them to attach some thin sheet metal to form this vertical bar.





Now that Troy has approved of what we are doing with the back end, I'll show you a couple of pictures......





Archie


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #510, 12-05-2006 11:52 PM
      Oh, I see. I juts couldnt figure out where you were gonna use that F40 piece. I like it. Makes me wann rob a front end for my rear.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #511, 12-06-2006 02:17 AM
     

Archie and troy,....

Good choices all the way around !


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #512, 12-06-2006 08:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Have you decided on the type of stick shift/knob handle you're going to use?





Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #513, 12-06-2006 08:22 PM
      While the front & the back are still getting fiberglass thrown at them, we'll take a look at that Momo Shift knob.





Virtually all of the wiring is about done in the interior. The biggest thing we gotta do is is find the right connectors to plug into the bulbs on the NSX-R light assemblies. Then we gotta figure out the wiring on them so we don't burn something up.

Archie


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #514, 12-06-2006 10:40 PM
      so this is officially going to be the wildest fiero ever.



antinull.com MSG #515, 12-07-2006 11:14 AM
      WOW that console looks AWESOME ^_^

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #516, 12-07-2006 11:15 AM
      Glad to see the adjustments to the front (especially the air dam angle)... and I love the rear fascia treatment!

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #517, 12-07-2006 07:27 PM
      Anyone up for some more in process pics?











Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #518, 12-07-2006 11:25 PM
      The home stretch is coming along nicely Archie. I can't wait to get some paint on this puppy!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #519, 12-10-2006 01:21 AM
     


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #520, 12-11-2006 10:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:



Glad you like it so far.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #521, 12-11-2006 03:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Glad you like it so far.



LMAO


PaulJK MSG #522, 12-12-2006 10:49 PM
      That dash and console are just Awesome (!!!!) . I hope that becomes available to the rest of us , although I'd skip the subwoofer in favor of another smaller built-in storage compartment ....

pavo_roddy MSG #523, 12-13-2006 12:08 AM
      HI all,

If I am not mistaken, I believe archie sells this very same dash, it should even be listed on his site..... Also, the sub box doesn't come with the dash when you purchase it, that part of the center console is from forum member Fie_ro.....



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #524, 12-13-2006 12:56 PM
     





Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #525, 12-13-2006 02:38 PM
     


gascarracer (ernestbauhofer@fuse.net) MSG #526, 12-13-2006 04:57 PM
      I really like that dash. Looks good.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #527, 12-13-2006 06:00 PM
     

The dash is now taking on a personality and appearance of it's own--------being tweeked to death! For those who like to just throw-in a dash and leave-be.... it's time to take notes.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #528, 12-18-2006 05:08 PM
      Any updates Archie?

cornersonrails (webearthly@yahoo.com) MSG #529, 12-18-2006 06:26 PM
      That is looking Awsome ! I cant wait to see it finished.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #530, 12-18-2006 09:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by cornersonrails:

I cant wait to see it finished.



That's my line.........

We're still working on the new nose, rear bumper & the interior. So these are in process pictures but you'll get the idea.

We should be pretty well wraped up on the major glass work by the end of the week.

Here's the front.....





Here's the back end, lookin' good.........





The new backend required that we do a different dual exhuast setup......



Archie



Jefrysuko MSG #531, 12-18-2006 09:47 PM
      Nice ductwork. Wheres the exhaust?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #532, 12-18-2006 10:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:

That dash and console are just Awesome (!!!!) . I hope that becomes available to the rest of us , although I'd skip the subwoofer in favor of another smaller built-in storage compartment ....



I agree the dash has fantastic tweekness possibilities. Here is what FieroGTRwideboby did with his V-8 Archie dash.



I plan to do some tweeking myself with my own V-8 Archie dash that i got for my choptop.



I got a heck of a deal on the dash from it's previous owner !

BTW,...great job Archie !


PaulJK MSG #533, 12-19-2006 05:12 AM
      Wow ... thanks for posting that ! That has GOT to be my all time favorite dash / console (personally I would have used brushed aluminum instead of the wood though) WOW !

antinull.com MSG #534, 12-19-2006 03:53 PM
      that dash looks nice
u can actually put a cd in without having to put it in gear lmao


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #535, 12-19-2006 04:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:






Archie

Ah, the glazing putty comes out.

 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Here's the back end, lookin' good.........






Archie

that spoiler bothers me

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #536, 12-19-2006 07:52 PM
     







Fiero_Adam MSG #537, 12-19-2006 08:54 PM
      Nice chin.

Sage (sgwfiberglass@gmail.com) MSG #538, 12-19-2006 10:05 PM
      The Jay Leno of Fiero's!

Nice work, looks great!

HAGO!


Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #539, 12-19-2006 11:14 PM
      a little somethin different



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #540, 12-20-2006 07:39 AM
      Nice work Archie!

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #541, 12-21-2006 12:12 AM
      Wait 'til you see what we're doing with the door panels.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #542, 12-21-2006 06:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Could someone please Photoshop this idea for me.
change the nose using this as a draft.



The foundation:


fourpoint9's Photoshop: Thanks again Fourpoint9


reality complements of Archie and crew:


Team work, and that my friends is why I love this forum



cornersonrails (webearthly@yahoo.com) MSG #543, 12-21-2006 08:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:



Team work, and that my friends is why I love this forum


I could not agree with you more


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #544, 12-22-2006 07:26 PM
      Ok, gotta show you this interior.

It's not finished yet, it's still gotta come out to finalize the install, to do some service instructions & to install the "A" & "B" pillars. But this is how it's going to look.

Happy Holidays

Archie











[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 12-22-2006).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #545, 12-22-2006 07:55 PM
     

New Dash King Designers in town!

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-22-2006).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #546, 12-22-2006 08:19 PM
     

Looks great.

Troy or Archie, do you guys plan to paint it, or recover it in leather or some other material ??


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #547, 12-22-2006 10:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Looks great.

Troy or Archie, do you guys plan to paint it, or recover it in leather or some other material ??


The dash will be black leather and a laminate, not sure which laminate I'll be going with.

Great work Archie, xmas just came early !!!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #548, 12-23-2006 02:37 PM
      It would be nice to cut-outse the fake glove/box area and place a Firebird/Camero glove found in some of the swap-dash Fiero conversions? You could then have the glove box door leathered with choptop logo etched in? Since the area is "dead-space" right? After all, you need a place to hold your speeding tickets, right?



Any more holiday pics?

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jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #549, 12-23-2006 06:01 PM
     
Just an Idea, after upholstery it would not stand out at all.

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 12-23-2006).]

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #550, 12-23-2006 09:09 PM
      wow i can't wait to see this car when it's done...

fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #551, 12-23-2006 09:38 PM
      How about a door handle?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #552, 12-23-2006 10:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:

How about a door handle?


I like the idea, but what car has the right handle? Can you photoshop carbon fiber for the orange parts.


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #553, 12-23-2006 10:47 PM
     

Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #554, 12-24-2006 02:34 AM
      The corner is probably there for a reason, but it looks out of place compared to how the center console, guages, vents, etc are all round..

I wish I was better at photoshop, lol, maybe someone else can 'round' these off just for ideas...

[This message has been edited by Jncomutt (edited 12-24-2006).]

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #555, 12-24-2006 02:44 AM
      why not make one of those beautiful silver buttons an electric door popper with 9v backup with a few diodes?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #556, 12-24-2006 05:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

why not make one of those beautiful silver buttons an electric door popper with 9v backup with a few diodes?


Already being done, I ordered a couple extra sets just for that reason.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #557, 12-24-2006 05:16 AM
      Thanks fourpoint9, now if I could just find those door handles.


And thankyou all for all the neat ideas.

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AnimalGT (mpofficer31a@yahoo.com) MSG #558, 12-24-2006 06:33 PM
      Door handles like that are found in 70s Camaros. The upright piece at least. I'm don't remember the relative size, but I think it could be adapted w/ Archie's crew's skills.
Scott


Saxman (andrew@thecleavers.net) MSG #559, 12-24-2006 10:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
Great work Archie, xmas just came early !!!


So did I...
That looks great!


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #560, 12-26-2006 02:09 PM
      Troy, where did you get your door popping kit from? I got my handles shaved, and been looking for something to do with the interior for buttons, and it would be nice to have a backup battery.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #561, 12-26-2006 05:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

Troy, where did you get your door popping kit from? I got my handles shaved, and been looking for something to do with the interior for buttons, and it would be nice to have a backup battery.



Archie installs the kit, not sure about the battery backup but it will have a manual override.


dobey MSG #562, 12-26-2006 09:15 PM
      How about some more modern looking HVAC controls. I see all these nice bodies and V8s and custom interiors happening, but they all end up having the ugly 80s HVAC controls, right next to the $1000 Alpine DVD screens. It just takes away from the whole interior.

Chris Hodson MSG #563, 12-26-2006 10:04 PM
      Ive never really looked into how the controls worked, how hard would it be to convert the 80's style hvac controls up to something more modern? Whats involved?

-I cant wait to see this car finished, this is so cool.



PaulJK MSG #564, 12-27-2006 02:56 AM
      If you guys do a SEARCH, you'll find out that changing the HVAC controls is probably the hardest thing anyone has tried to do on a fiero. A FEW people have done it, but not many. That would be better than wasting space in this thread bringing up an old issue ....

355Fiero MSG #565, 12-27-2006 03:24 AM
      Troyboy;

Do a search on the HVAC controls Riceburner put together. They are Ferrari 355 replica HVAC controls and I have purchased a set from him for my 355 kit. The setup is excellent and works on the Fiero HVAC system no problem. I have installed the setup in my car as a test dummy for him when he was setting everything up and everything worked very well.

It will really set off your interior very well and worth the few bucks it would cost to get it after all the work that has gone into your car already.

Actually, I just did a search on here and could not see the thread he had started. Here is a thread from the kitcar forum many of us frequent as well in our builds. There was a thread from some members talking about how to make a replacement HVAC unit and Riceburner kicked in about page 20 or so.

The link below is from page 25 on where Riceburner shows his finished product. There was some discussion later in the thread where the A/C was not working on one member's car and I have not yet had the opportunity to start up my A/C as my dash has not been in my car for several years.... I am pretty sure it has all been corrected though.

Should be worth a chat with Riceburner.

http://www.kitcarsforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=go8gird5tmj4qrl3h2pn652177&topic=4103.360

One thing I just found out about the kitcar forum as I could not see anyof my pics up on the forum is that you have to sign in as a member to see the pics. Sorry. If someone wants to grab a pic of the HVAC console off that thread, and post here that would be great. I have never been able to post here for whatever reason.

Cheers
Don


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #566, 12-27-2006 04:49 AM
      This images is larger than 100K. Click to view.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #567, 12-27-2006 05:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 355Fiero:

Troyboy;

Do a search on the HVAC controls Riceburner put together. They are Ferrari 355 replica HVAC controls and I have purchased a set from him for my 355 kit. The setup is excellent and works on the Fiero HVAC system no problem. I have installed the setup in my car as a test dummy for him when he was setting everything up and everything worked very well.

It will really set off your interior very well and worth the few bucks it would cost to get it after all the work that has gone into your car already.

Actually, I just did a search on here and could not see the thread he had started. Here is a thread from the kitcar forum many of us frequent as well in our builds. There was a thread from some members talking about how to make a replacement HVAC unit and Riceburner kicked in about page 20 or so.

The link below is from page 25 on where Riceburner shows his finished product. There was some discussion later in the thread where the A/C was not working on one member's car and I have not yet had the opportunity to start up my A/C as my dash has not been in my car for several years.... I am pretty sure it has all been corrected though.

Should be worth a chat with Riceburner.

http://www.kitcarsforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=go8gird5tmj4qrl3h2pn652177&topic=4103.360

One thing I just found out about the kitcar forum as I could not see anyof my pics up on the forum is that you have to sign in as a member to see the pics. Sorry. If someone wants to grab a pic of the HVAC console off that thread, and post here that would be great. I have never been able to post here for whatever reason.

Cheers
Don


Hmm.... very interesting, thanks for the info but I don't think it would fit the current setup. It looks like it requires more space than I have available. I will keep this info for my next fiero project.


355Fiero MSG #568, 12-27-2006 05:17 PM
      Troyboy;

I'll take measurements tonight of the HVAC switch panel but I am pretty sure that it is not any larger than the stock Fiero setup that you have under the Video screen. If it is any larger, it will be a bit taller but not much if at all.

Cheers
Don


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #569, 12-27-2006 10:36 PM
      The rear bumper is finally taking shape.







Archie


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #570, 12-27-2006 11:54 PM
     

Archie you and your team are really doing an excellent job of executing troyboy's and Madcurl's pipe dreams.

Your guys are really talented.

I know time is money and paying customers come first but you should really turn them loose some time and see what kind of creative stuff they can come up with.

Things for you to sell of course !


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #571, 12-28-2006 07:28 PM
      great job Archie!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #572, 12-28-2006 07:41 PM
      I think our Midway/Wendy's visit is paying off. It looks darn good even w/o paint and is 15% better now than it was when we left in Aug 2006.

antinull.com MSG #573, 12-28-2006 08:42 PM
      wow shes got a nice rear end

mrfiero (mrfiero@juno.com) MSG #574, 12-28-2006 09:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by antinull.com:

wow shes got a nice rear end



I'm an "ass-man" myself!


Definitely looking good!


crazyhorse MSG #575, 12-28-2006 09:48 PM
      where you going to mount the rear view camera ?


Jefrysuko MSG #576, 12-28-2006 10:59 PM
      Is it just me or does anyone else feel as if it would look better with a standard decklid?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #577, 12-28-2006 11:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jefrysuko:

Is it just me or does anyone else feel as if it would look better with a standard decklid?


Relax, It's not done yet...... but when it is, I'll be happy to pay the bill.


fieroluv (bpickell2003@yahoo.com) MSG #578, 12-29-2006 12:07 AM
      All I can say is wow. That is a work of art. But am I wrong in thinking that this needs to go into the Guiness Book for the worlds most expensive Fiero?

Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #579, 12-29-2006 12:37 AM
      That rear bumper kinda reminds me of those old dodge daytona bumpers. Looks good though

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #580, 12-29-2006 01:24 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jefrysuko:

Is it just me or does anyone else feel as if it would look better with a standard decklid?


Nah, gotta disagree, a standard decklid would be way too plain for this bar raising creation.



I think the decklid looks good, simlair to a scaled down Lamborghini diablo style.

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355Fiero MSG #581, 12-29-2006 01:36 AM
      Troyboy;

The dimensions of the HVAC control panel are: 3" wide, 6" long and about 3/16" thick.

The additional control box is about 2" x 3" and can easily fit into the void under the various dash pieces. There is also a heater/vent flap control motor that fits on to the side of the heater box in behind any dash pieces.

Good luck with the rest of the build.

The car is looking fantastic.

Cheers
Don


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #582, 12-29-2006 02:04 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 355Fiero:

Troyboy;

The dimensions of the HVAC control panel are: 3" wide, 6" long and about 3/16" thick.

The additional control box is about 2" x 3" and can easily fit into the void under the various dash pieces. There is also a heater/vent flap control motor that fits on to the side of the heater box in behind any dash pieces.

Good luck with the rest of the build.

The car is looking fantastic.

Cheers
Don


Thanks for the info and research Don, trust me it will not go to waste.
Btw, did they ever fix the a/c problem?


Jefrysuko MSG #583, 12-29-2006 08:21 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

I think the decklid looks good, simlair to a scaled down Lamborghini diablo style.



Yeah, maybe just taking off the Whale Tail or going with a different style spoiler would suit my tastes more. It was just when the new rear bumper started to take shape that I thought something was off with the decklid. Up until then I was with the program. And my not liking the decklid is about like pointing out a crack in the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel

 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Relax, It's not done yet...... but when it is, I'll be happy to pay the bill.



I'll be happy your the one paying the bill too

[This message has been edited by Jefrysuko (edited 12-29-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #584, 12-29-2006 01:28 PM
      A photoshop request, can someone please photoshop the Perfect Union in pearl yellow and then pearl yellow with black pearl rally stripes.

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #585, 12-29-2006 01:29 PM
      that thing is hottness... can't wait till it shows up in ny.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #586, 12-29-2006 08:15 PM
      If you're a Union Busting Thug wandering the streets of New York late at night, you better begin worrying when you see this car behind you.......



...........


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #587, 12-29-2006 08:16 PM
      Because when it pulls up alongside of you, 3 big guys are going to jump out a strike a Pose for you.............



Jake_Dragon MSG #588, 12-29-2006 08:49 PM
      Good work on the rear bumper, I didnt think you would pull it off but it came out looking great.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #589, 12-29-2006 08:53 PM
      Here are some pictures of the new tail, the new nose & the new profile......











.............


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #590, 12-29-2006 08:56 PM
      How would it look without a wing?









..........

knuckledragger

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #591, 12-29-2006 09:04 PM
      How about a stock wing?.........













Ok Troy, how's that for a little New Year's cheer?

Archie


tuner2m6t MSG #592, 12-29-2006 09:08 PM
      So I am probably not the only one thinking this but
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when does it go to the paint shop?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #593, 12-29-2006 09:28 PM
      WOW Archie the car is looking great , and for the second wing lets go with stock wing with a familiar twist.......






Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #594, 12-29-2006 09:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
How would it look without a wing?


Better!
The stock wing matches real nice but I think the union looks more classy without a wing...it doesnt need it imho.


tuner2m6t MSG #595, 12-29-2006 09:33 PM
      I like the way it looks with both wings but I have to agree with Fie Ro it does look the best without a wing. But it's Troyboy's choice and I am sure he will make the right one as he has done with the rest of the project.

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #596, 12-29-2006 10:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


Better!
The stock wing matches real nice but I think the union looks more classy without a wing...it doesnt need it imho.


I see your point, but it would still need at least a lip like on curlys #15


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #597, 12-29-2006 10:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

WOW Archie the car is looking great , and for the second wing lets go with stock wing with a familiar twist.......




Ok, so you want to put a spot light under the right end of the wing.

Cool.


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #598, 12-29-2006 11:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

A photoshop request, can someone please photoshop the Perfect Union in pearl yellow and then pearl yellow with black pearl rally stripes.




antinull.com MSG #599, 12-29-2006 11:56 PM
      that car is sharp and it looks like nothing else GREAT JOB

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Nebiros88 MSG #600, 12-30-2006 01:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

More proof that widebodies and wing can mix !!





Now all it needs is 5" slanted and flared wingstands from fiero warehouse and a unique tail light setup
Great creation Troy... good work Archie


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #601, 12-30-2006 02:21 AM
      That looks pretty friggin unbelievable.

I say leave the whale tail, it looks awesome.



jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #602, 12-30-2006 02:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


I see your point, but it would still need at least a lip like on curlys #15


I think it would look cool to chop the whale tale on it now, if I wasn't lazy I'd do a photo shop for you.


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #603, 12-30-2006 03:29 AM
     
I lied, boredom overcame laziness.


Falcon Fiero (joelpatton1@comcast.net) MSG #604, 12-30-2006 03:42 AM
      Just bitchin!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #605, 12-30-2006 03:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

That looks pretty friggin unbelievable.

I say leave the whale tail, it looks awesome.



The Union will have both, when the car is painted both deck lids will be painted. On the second deck lid with the "stock wing" I will have the deck lid painted with out the wing first. This should allow it to be removable for three different looks : whale tail, "stock wing", and no wing( I will just have to deal with the holes).


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #606, 12-30-2006 03:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:


I lied, boredom overcame laziness.


That whail tail chop looks sweet, but I think Archie would send me and the union packing before he touches the first lid again.....he,he,he


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #607, 12-30-2006 04:01 AM
      I don't mean to float my own boat, but thats just to bad, thats got to be the best looking of the rest of the Ideas.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #608, 12-30-2006 04:06 AM
      Thanks to fourpoint9 the union now has a new paint scheme : Now time to choose just one.





tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #609, 12-30-2006 07:08 AM
      the bottom one.
I like your Idea of the removable wing. I don;t really like that whaletail, maybe a different style one woudl work. the stock wing looks 100x better from the back and side, but looks too wide from the top. well wide in the front to back not side to side.
the wing trimmed down , outter edge stock, sweeping to the center cut down about 1/3 taken off the leading edge might look better. maybe I photochop something tomorrow.

and as for the pearl yellow......no. stick with the pearl orange. keep it unique. no offense to all the yellow fiero lovers, I like yellow fiero's but there are too many of them out there, and this should stand alone....
I already had my coworker make me photochop the pic of mine to yellow to pointout how much better it looks. I've had yellow cars, and I think there are better choices, especially for one with such distinctive lines.



carolinajoe (groovieguy@gmail.com) MSG #610, 12-30-2006 08:49 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Because when it pulls up alongside of you, 3 big guys are going to jump out a strike a Pose for you.............



I guess I am the only one
But, how did you get 3 Big Guys in there?????? LOL



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #611, 12-30-2006 09:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by carolinajoe:


I guess I am the only one
But, how did you get 3 Big Guys in there?????? LOL


I was wondering when someone would ask that.

Sometimes I say things like that or post a picture that doesn't go with the rest just to see if anyone is watching or reading.

You win the "I'm Awake" award for today. Which gets you nothing except the pride of knowing that you're on the ball.

Also notice that the 3 big guys aren't all that big.

But it was a clever way to get Kris, Rob & Mark's pictures in this thread.

Archie

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Oreif (kopielski1714@wowway.com) MSG #612, 12-30-2006 11:00 AM
      I know there has been many hours of work and many mods changed over the course of the build.
But I think the wing, spoiler, no wing could be that the stock wing and the whale tail spoiler seem small due to the body being wider. Probably an option would be to widen them. This would give the rear view a much better low and wide look. Right now you have a wide body and a thinner width spoiler/wing it seems to take away from the flow of the car. Almost a "stuck-on" appearence. With the wider wing it draws you back to the original concept of low and wide. As for the side view, Moving the wing to the back edge of the decklid would make it seem longer instead of "stubbed" at the rear.

Not sure if it could be done with the whale tail, But here's what the stock wing would look like widened:



Here is the original pic for comparison:



Even though they are the same pic, Notice how the bottom pic makes the car look thinner/taller?

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Oreif (kopielski1714@wowway.com) MSG #613, 12-30-2006 11:19 AM
      Here is a photoshop of the whale tail widened:



And the original for comparison:




You know, after looking at the rear pics I posted, The stock wing widened looks the best to me. I generally like the whale tails but on this car, The widened stock wing appears to have much better flow.
Of course this is just my opinion.

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Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #614, 12-30-2006 11:53 AM
      I'm with troyboy, put that stock wing up a little higher. Need some jazz to go with a really sharp car.

The front looks really nice too.
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AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #615, 12-30-2006 03:19 PM
      Please dont raise the wing, its the ugliest thing Ive ever seen and makes me want to vomit every time I see one. Your car doesnt deserve to be treated like that.

The best looking option would be to use the OE wing, add 2" to the width, LOWER the wing 1.5" and move it back 3". Photoshop anyone?


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #616, 12-30-2006 03:27 PM
      Geezs, there's a lot of ways to go with this latest pipe-modification. I like Orief's idea of the use of cutting out a section of a stock Fiero wing (2-4"?) making it wider (Lf & Rt) but if I may add...I'd use something along the lines of #011 and make it wider or tweek the existing wing by reducing it's height and adding extentions on the ends?

Either way, it's Troy's decision but, like both styles.


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #617, 12-30-2006 03:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AutoTech:

Please dont raise the wing, its the ugliest thing Ive ever seen and makes me want to vomit every time I see one. Your car doesnt deserve to be treated like that.

The best looking option would be to use the OE wing, add 2" to the width, LOWER the wing 1.5" and move it back 3". Photoshop anyone?

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 12-30-2006).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #618, 12-30-2006 03:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:





can you raise the wing to 5" with the wing tip extintions. this way we can see both ways.

Thanks, you guys are great!!

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FieroGTRwideboby (alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com) MSG #619, 12-30-2006 03:52 PM
      The car is looking awesome. Just a question..... is this the final ride height and stance?
The color is what is really gonna make a difference, this is a hard decision because you have a lot to consider. Yellow in my opinion would look good, but be a little too mellow for a car like this. I am a little bias, but I would advice on the pearl orange...hehe .Its my favorite.


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Go orange!

Alex


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #620, 12-30-2006 04:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


can you raise the wing to 5" with the wing tip extintions. this way we can see both ways.

Thanks, you guys are great!!





AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #621, 12-30-2006 04:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:




After every option Ive seen, this is the personal favorite. The lowered OE spoiler looks good to, but this just looks like it belongs there. I think Arch would live if you changed it for the better, one last time


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #622, 12-30-2006 04:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:


Go orange!

Alex


Why must you make it so hard for me to keep my comments to myself?
I really do like the color but I could never live with it on a fiero.

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fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #623, 12-30-2006 04:50 PM
      How about this one




http://directbodykits.com/merchant/mainpage2.htm


Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #624, 12-30-2006 04:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

.............


I love those wheels ..what are they? Can you give me any info on the size spacing and if they are available?

oh BTW the car is awesome !

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fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #625, 12-30-2006 05:06 PM
     



tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #626, 12-30-2006 05:37 PM
      Well, this didn;t quite come out as I wanted, but i wanted to keep the same pic in the original and modified forms from the same angle.
top is stock pic, middle, I raised the wing about 3" and followed the line back, also added a little rake to it. just looks too big .
the bottom one gave me fits as the original pic was grainy, so I lost what I wanted to do, but use a more elegant refined wing than the stock one. moved back, and thinned thru the center, with a slight bit of rake and a lip on the trailing edge was how I wanted it, but to keep it all in line with the original, it got kinda lost when I put it back on the car,

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jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #627, 12-30-2006 05:44 PM
      I don't think a curved edge like that matches the lines of the car.

[This message has been edited by jmbishop (edited 12-30-2006).]

jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #628, 12-30-2006 06:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:



I'm staring to like wingless best.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #629, 12-30-2006 06:19 PM
      All these great ideas..... I need a drink. Hey Archie you mite as well have a drink too..he he he your going to need it.

Thanks for all the input, now time to sort it all out.


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #630, 12-30-2006 06:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jmbishop:

I don't think a curved edge like that matches the lines of the car.


You're right. I didn;t want the curve to be so drastic, I squared it off, and tweaked the edges more. I was going for matching the rear edge with th bumper, and a more angular line to the outer edges, but you can;t sse that in that pic due to the angle. the outter edges coming foward gives a more aggressive stance. I;ve seen one very close to what I am thinking of, but can;t for the life of me remember where. given a choice, tho I would go with a wing or clean, whaletails just don't do anything for me.




exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #631, 12-30-2006 07:55 PM
     

Guess i will throw my two cents in as well.

Troy, no question the stock wing looks good, but IMO it's been done before (and will probably be done again ahem,...) and your car is unique and super tweeked, so my recommendation would be to go with the wing you already had on there and tweek it like madcurl suggested.



Jefrysuko MSG #632, 12-30-2006 09:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

All these great ideas..... I need a drink. Hey Archie you mite as well have a drink too..he he he your going to need it.

Thanks for all the input, now time to sort it all out.


Archie,

I'm sorry for what I started


Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #633, 12-31-2006 03:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AutoTech:

Please dont raise the wing, its the ugliest thing Ive ever seen and makes me want to vomit every time I see one. Your car doesnt deserve to be treated like that.

The best looking option would be to use the OE wing, add 2" to the width, LOWER the wing 1.5" and move it back 3". Photoshop anyone?


It is probably just me, but lower makes it look like a dog with its tail stuck between its legs, afraid of the world. If you mean you hate the ricer wings that stick up 2 feet, I agree, they look silly. I'm talking a wing like Proud One. It is very tastefully done and looks good. And the idea of having several to choose from depending on your mood that day is great if you can afford it. I bet he can.


diabloscott (swoodard23@sbcglobal.net) MSG #634, 12-31-2006 06:45 PM
      stretch?


Saxman (andrew@thecleavers.net) MSG #635, 12-31-2006 07:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by diabloscott:
stretch?


Nice! Looks like there is room for a V12 now!


The ROK MSG #636, 01-01-2007 03:10 AM
      i love those lights

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #637, 01-02-2007 05:33 PM
      Stay tuned, Flying out to Archie's this week to make the final decision: to wing or not to wing? or maybe something totally new........

But for now how about a pic of the union when she arrived at Archieís 13 months ago.


dobey MSG #638, 01-02-2007 06:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
Stay tuned, Flying out to Archie's this week to make the final decision: to wing or not to wing? or maybe something totally new........


How about chopping that antenna? It looks like it's taller than the body from the bottom of the skirt to the roofline.


jscott1 MSG #639, 01-02-2007 07:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


can you raise the wing to 5" with the wing tip extintions. this way we can see both ways.

Thanks, you guys are great!!



Independent of how you feel about raised wings, a chop top has about 4 inches of rear window to look through and the stock spoiler will be right in the middle of that. Raising it 3 inches, (for a total of 5 inches) is the only way to be able to see out the back, (short of removing the spoiler alltogether). Given that raising it performs a valuable function, I would not call that rice.


jmbishop (jmbishop05@aol.com) MSG #640, 01-02-2007 07:56 PM
      Agreed, my chop lost its spoiler, but is about to gain a Camero spoiler.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #641, 01-02-2007 08:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Stay tuned, Flying out to Archie's this week to make the final decision: to wing or not to wing? or maybe something totally new........

But for now how about a pic of the union when she arrived at Archieís 13 months ago.


Oh, yeah, I gotta put those Tweety Bird seat covers back on for when you come to visit this week.

Archie

PS, WheeeHaaaaa I own page 17

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 01-02-2007).]

antinull.com MSG #642, 01-02-2007 08:41 PM
      o_0 wow what a change
i think the car looks fine with either wing
but making it wider would be a good thing so it fits the car


Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #643, 01-03-2007 11:13 PM
      hey troyboy... what did you do with those old rims? the car looks great... now just to get one of those ant's you don't have to see... since the fender is not metal you can put a small boosted antenna under the fender and fill the hole. as for a wing... eh... who needs it. if you look at the car from the front drivers side corner on an angle you'll notice the car looks better without one. If you had to put one on i would say something like this.... i know the touring wings look good on our cars if done right...


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #644, 01-03-2007 11:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

hey troyboy... what did you do with those old rims?



That's easy.



Hehehehe,....

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #645, 01-04-2007 06:30 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


That's easy.



Hehehehe,....


No offence ment but how could someone with a stance like that & a silhouette like that change it to a fastback chop?

BTW: if you plan to have it done in time for Daytona, you need to get it here pretty darn quick. Our available shop time between now & then is filling in fast.

Archie


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #646, 01-04-2007 09:00 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


No offence ment but how could someone with a stance like that & a silhouette like that change it to a fastback chop?

BTW: if you plan to have it done in time for Daytona, you need to get it here pretty darn quick. Our available shop time between now & then is filling in fast.

Archie


This changed everything for me.



I haven't been the same since i first saw this picture.

Seeing Troy's perfect Union Car also hurt the notchie cause.

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XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #647, 01-04-2007 05:31 PM
      DANG, those rears look HUGE!



88White3.4GT MSG #648, 01-04-2007 10:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

DANG, those rears look HUGE!



yup 12" wide...


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #649, 01-04-2007 11:05 PM
      More wing pics??????

Think about this with the wing tips extended downward.











Troy was here today, Here he is inside taking a tour of the controls for all that stuff in there.



Anyone want more pics?

A


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #650, 01-05-2007 12:15 AM
      HECK YEAH WE WANT MORE PICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW Troy, ...for a big guy (as u call yourself) you sure look comfortable in that tiny choptop.

P.S. Are those the new wing stands that use the stock location, but push the wing back to the edge of the decklid ??

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #651, 01-05-2007 12:24 AM
      Well this is the last of the wing pics........ I do'wanna c no mo wing piks

Don't ask about the origin of the wind, we'll tell you all about it in a couple of days. It really hasn't been authorized to be fitted to this car yet. So if anyone asks, you never saw these pics.













Archie


Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #652, 01-05-2007 01:18 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Well this is the last of the wing pics........ I do'wanna c no mo wing piks

Don't ask about the origin of the wind, we'll tell you all about it in a couple of days. It really hasn't been authorized to be fitted to this car yet. So if anyone asks, you never saw these pics.


modded third gen Camaro? Anyway, beautiful car regardless of the spoiler

BTW what are those wheels? Can you tell me what size and spacing?

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #653, 01-05-2007 03:15 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Erik:


modded third gen Camaro? Anyway, beautiful car regardless of the spoiler

BTW what are those wheels? Can you tell me what size and spacing?



The rims are HRE 541r 19/20 as for the spacing, HRE doesn't give out that info. maybe Archie can help.
http://www.hrewheels.com/


Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #654, 01-05-2007 03:18 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


The rims are HRE 541r 19/20 as for the spacing, HRE doesn't give out that info. maybe Archie can help.
http://www.hrewheels.com/


Thanks Troyboy



Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #655, 01-05-2007 03:26 AM
      I just checked on pricing and its not clear wether they are pricing per wheel or for a set of 4.
For a 17" 540 series it says 1,195.00 which I am assuming is for a set of 4 ..if it is for just one wheel then I think I will pass

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exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #656, 01-05-2007 03:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Erik:

I just checked on pricing and its not clear wether they are pricing per wheel or for a set of 4.
For a 17" 540 series it says 1,195.00 which I am assuming is for a set of 4 ..if it is for just one wheel then I think I will pass



Yep that is for one wheel my friend,..actually on the rather cheap side for HRE. They are up around $1,500 apiece as you go up in size.

Those wheels are not for the faint of heart or light of wallet.

Darn they look good though !


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #657, 01-05-2007 04:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Yep that is for one wheel my friend,..actually on the rather cheap side for HRE. They are up around $1,500 apiece as you go up in size.

Those wheels are not for the faint of heart or light of wallet.

Darn they look good though !

You gotta be kidding me right?
I can buy Simmons for less than that or 1 off custom made ROH wheels. Hell the wheels ROH sell to Ferrari as factory options for new Ferraris don't cost that.



Suufmeister MSG #658, 01-05-2007 11:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:



Archie



I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but, are there any plans to get rid of that antenna? It seems out of place. But that's just my opinion.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #659, 01-05-2007 01:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

BTW Troy, ...for a big guy (as u call yourself) you sure look comfortable in that tiny choptop.


A little baby oil and I slid right in...he he

 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
P.S. Are those the new wing stands that use the stock location, but push the wing back to the edge of the decklid ??



Yep those are the new wing stands. Not sure If I'll use them on this car but they are sweet.


Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #660, 01-05-2007 01:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:


Yep that is for one wheel my friend,..actually on the rather cheap side for HRE. They are up around $1,500 apiece as you go up in size.

Those wheels are not for the faint of heart or light of wallet.

Darn they look good though !


I really like them ..very Ferrari er ummm Fiero ..they really set the car off and give it that much more of an exotic supercar look



XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #661, 01-05-2007 02:37 PM
      That last low profile spoiler was the best one, and seems to fit the car perfect to me. The thing has a phat ole butt, those other spoilers are bordering obesity. I think the car is over the top as it is and a big ole spoiler, along with a bright paint scheme will be too much. I kinda like the look of a really good sillouette. Ya know like a lady witha really nice shape in a long black evenning dress. You can see all the curves, and nothing seems to jump out at you much more than the rest.

With all that is going on in the car, I would not go stripes, or anything too bright. I would tone it down, and let the car's beauty speak for itself.



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #662, 01-06-2007 12:43 PM
      Geezs. That Camero bow-tie wing sure looks darn good. I can see why I have three choptops....less of a headache, hehe.

Good luck with you're choices, hehe.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #663, 01-06-2007 04:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Suufmeister:


I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but, are there any plans to get rid of that antenna? It seems out of place. But that's just my opinion.


Once Troy starts trollin' around NYC, he may need the location for future inquries placements, hehe. I too agree that the attenna may be out of place but, I would leave, "as-is." You never known, his car can be at the front of the choptop caravan with a banner flag on the antenna or for radio emergencies (old style) if XM goes out or NY attack.



AquaHusky (david.t.cisneros@gmail.com) MSG #664, 01-06-2007 06:20 PM
      To tell ya the truth, I thought those were Z06 wheels. I was gonna ask how you went about changing the wheel bolt pattern. But then I saw the deep lip on the rears.

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Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #665, 01-07-2007 01:07 AM
      yeah that camaro wing looks good but if you cut it about 1/4" shorter i think it'll look hot! then again opinions are like a-holes, everybody has them and they all stink! sweet car troyboy.

cropduster MSG #666, 01-07-2007 09:41 AM
      Then again, you could always put in an electric antenna.......
http://fierosails.com/ElectricAntenna.html



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #667, 01-07-2007 05:49 PM
      in ny that's not always a good idea... on a plastic fender it woudn't work well i don't think... sometimes the morning dew turns to ice.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #668, 01-11-2007 02:05 PM
      I'm sorry. I just couldn't help myself cause I love the outcome of this ride. Therefore...I had to bump it, hehe.

tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #669, 01-11-2007 03:12 PM
      wow, I try to limit going to this thread, cause it makes me want to start modding.

I like that low profile spoiler, it just fits in nice with the lines.

I also like those new wingstands, they give it the countach/lambo look, but IMHO, should be a little lower for a choptop, they look like they would be better matched to a bubble top ( ģ madcurl )

Glad I don't have to decide! I'll just be happy to see that car in person..... it;s definately a one of a kind masterpiece!


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #670, 01-11-2007 06:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:



this wing has become my favorite now. Looks it works nice with the rear, flows nice with the sides, may match the front lip too.

It may need some matching at the tips with the rear...and for the sides you could extrude em

sort of a multipiece mini whale tale


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #671, 01-11-2007 06:46 PM
      Nice touches to the rear wing Fie Ro.

Philphine (philphine@live.com) MSG #672, 01-11-2007 07:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

More wing pics??????

Think about this with the wing tips extended downward.





haven't been through all this thread to see if the other guy posted his, but if not, consider this mustang wing...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-0000...

already has extended wing tips. just have to fix the tilt (unless you like it as is).



BobadooFunk (bobadoofunk@gmail.com) MSG #673, 01-12-2007 12:16 AM
      WOW.. looks SO GOOD!

troyboy, how tall are you? im 6'1" and (the day i get apprpved for a loan..) i want something SO similar to what you have, except i do want the IMSA notchie and a few other personal touches

great job so far Archie+crew!



IMSA/GT (digisys@verizon.net) MSG #674, 01-14-2007 07:56 PM
      Very nice Archie! Now I know that you can chop the IMSA. Might have to come out to discuss future project.

Actually Jason made a little mistake about my tires. The rears are 295's and the front's are 245. They are mounted on custom ARE modular alloy wheels, with coilovers, tubular a-arms, and other IRM handling goodies.

Troyboy lives in NY not far from PA. Maybe we could meet for a photo shoot to compare rides?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #675, 01-14-2007 08:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IMSA/GT:

Very nice Archie! Now I know that you can chop the IMSA. Might have to come out to discuss future project.

Actually Jason made a little mistake about my tires. The rears are 295's and the front's are 245. They are mounted on custom ARE modular alloy wheels, with coilovers, tubular a-arms, and other IRM handling goodies.

Troyboy lives in NY not far from PA. Maybe we could meet for a photo shoot to compare rides?


Sounds good to me, any pics of your ride?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #676, 01-14-2007 08:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BobadooFunk:

WOW.. looks SO GOOD!

troyboy, how tall are you? im 6'1" and (the day i get apprpved for a loan..) i want something SO similar to what you have, except i do want the IMSA notchie and a few other personal touches

great job so far Archie+crew!



5' 11"


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #677, 01-17-2007 08:22 PM
      Talked to Kevin at D1S, the big brake package should be ready for shipment by next week. Any word on the "wing thing" Archie?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #678, 01-17-2007 08:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Talked to Kevin at D1S, the big brake package should be ready for shipment by next week. Any word on the "wing thing" Archie?


That's good to hear. Ordered the wing at the beginning of last week & Doug confirmed the order.

I have Curley's car in the "Hot Spot" for the next week or so, trying to get the nose fixed. Soon as the brakes get here we can get them on right away.

Archie


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #679, 01-19-2007 10:11 PM
      what kind of brakes you gonna run?



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #680, 01-19-2007 10:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

what kind of brakes you gonna run?



13" 2004 Z06 Corvette in front and 13" 2004 Z06 in the rear using the 4 piston calipers front and back.


pavo_roddy MSG #681, 01-20-2007 02:10 AM
      Hi all,

Troyboy, did you get your IMSA kit from Fierowarehouse.com?? If so, does the side molding come in the ribbed shape or can you get the smooth shape?

edit: And anothe page owned by the roddy!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #682, 01-20-2007 10:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by pavo_roddy:

Hi all,

Troyboy, did you get your IMSA kit from Fierowarehouse.com?? If so, does the side molding come in the ribbed shape or can you get the smooth shape?

edit: And anothe page owned by the roddy!



yes, the kit is from Fierowarehouse. The side molding only comes ribbed. It would be hard to change due to the fact that the molding is part of the front finders.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #683, 01-20-2007 01:06 PM
      The ribbed trim is also a part of the IMSA body kit across the back below the tail lights.



It sounds kinda strange when you think why would someone design ribbed trim for a Gt based body kit.

You have to remember that when Jim Sutter originally made the molds for the fastback version of the Fiero he already had the IMSA notchback version finished & on the market. Then remember that the Fastback version had been announced for '86-1/2 but were not in production yet. Jim had no way to know that GM was going to be putting round trim on the production cars.

Jim always was ahead of the game & that's what happens when you're the 1st one to do something. Sometimes you're just slightly wrong, that's the cost of being an industry leader.

Another lession on some of the little know facts of Fiero history from an old Knuckle Dragger.

Archie

BTW Troy, the wing came in.

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 01-20-2007).]

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #684, 01-20-2007 07:36 PM
      you are using the calipers in the picture? If so I thought those were dual piston front and single piston rear. I didnt know there were four piston calipers, escept for the ones on the rear of the new z06. And that one has six piston fronts. Anyhow, can you get some pictures of your kit when it comes in?



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #685, 01-20-2007 10:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

you are using the calipers in the picture? If so I thought those were dual piston front and single piston rear. I didnt know there were four piston calipers, escept for the ones on the rear of the new z06. And that one has six piston fronts. Anyhow, can you get some pictures of your kit when it comes in?



I'm not sure on the number of pistons on the brake set up, but we are using the front calipers and rotors from the C5 Z06 Corvette on the front and rear of the car. The only sacrifice with using the front calipers in the rear is you have to use a separate e-brake set up. But you gain larger rotors and calipers in the rear. Over kill yes, but it will fill the 20's nicely.


gascarracer (ernestbauhofer@fuse.net) MSG #686, 01-21-2007 12:14 AM
      Archie, "old Knuckle Dragger" can't beleve you would say that. We would never say that about you.



XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #687, 01-21-2007 12:57 PM
      I wanna see them. Yoiu know that is what i am looking for. If the 13 inch setup fills the wheels out for you, then I may ditch what I was contemplating and go this route.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #688, 01-21-2007 01:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by XzotikGT:

I wanna see them. Yoiu know that is what i am looking for. If the 13 inch setup fills the wheels out for you, then I may ditch what I was contemplating and go this route.



Curly has them on his #15.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #689, 01-21-2007 03:52 PM
     


Archie you better watch it or you are going to get a reputation as a pretty good customizer ! hehehe.


Brocephus (jarojj99@oneonta.edu) MSG #690, 01-21-2007 05:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:The only sacrifice with using the front calipers in the rear is you have to use a separate e-brake set up.


There are seperate e-brake kits made to fit calipers that were originally intended for the front? Do tell! I'm using the front suspension from a Nissan Pulsar on the rear of my Fiero and won't have an e-brake unless I can find one of these kits you speak of or unless I can find a suitable rear disk setup from another Nissan. Help and thanks! :-)



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #691, 01-21-2007 06:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Brocephus:


There are seperate e-brake kits made to fit calipers that were originally intended for the front? Do tell! I'm using the front suspension from a Nissan Pulsar on the rear of my Fiero and won't have an e-brake unless I can find one of these kits you speak of or unless I can find a suitable rear disk setup from another Nissan. Help and thanks! :-)


It's not a kit but Kevin at D1S will make it for the fiero. If your looking for a 13' brake kit with separate e-brake caliper try this:
http://heldmotorsports.com/Fiero/KitCarBrakes.htm
I think the e-brake is made by willwood

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 01-21-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #692, 01-25-2007 06:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:


this wing has become my favorite now. Looks it works nice with the rear, flows nice with the sides, may match the front lip too.

It may need some matching at the tips with the rear...and for the sides you could extrude em

sort of a multipiece mini whale tale


Thanks Fie Ro, now for Archie and crew to bring it to life,


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #693, 01-30-2007 08:33 PM
      Bump as I play with paint ideas for you Troy.



fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #694, 01-30-2007 08:50 PM
     

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fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #695, 01-30-2007 09:54 PM
     


AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #696, 01-30-2007 10:51 PM
      It is a car that definately stands out from the crowd, but Im not so sure if the paint has to be. Maybe it's just from me seeing this car 5 days a week, but white seems to go nicely with it. A deep, pearl white of course...

[This message has been edited by AutoTech (edited 01-30-2007).]

fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #697, 01-30-2007 10:51 PM
     

fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #698, 01-30-2007 11:10 PM
      I must agree. Troys car does not need fancy paint to look cool.
It would look very awesome White.
On Top Gear they say White is the new cool car color:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feflTA_VRbA

Looks great on the Lotus Exige S and would look great on the Perfect Union

[This message has been edited by fourpoint9 (edited 01-31-2007).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #699, 01-30-2007 11:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:





WoooHooo, I like that.

I wish I could do that Photoshop stuff.

Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #700, 01-30-2007 11:45 PM
      Wow a lot of great ideas!!

how about this:


on this:


I still like the stripe idea


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #701, 01-31-2007 12:09 AM
     


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #702, 01-31-2007 12:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Wow a lot of great ideas!!

how about this:



I still like the stripe idea




Quicker to do it with the template I already had made. Might need to tweek it, could be darker. That's all I have time for tonight.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #703, 01-31-2007 01:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:




Quicker to do it with the template I already had made. Might need to tweek it, could be darker. That's all I have time for tonight.


Thanks this could be a option looks more aggressive and less "look at me"


Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #704, 01-31-2007 09:34 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fourpoint9:





I like this one too. Hey Troy, with that "look at me" bodywork now you are now afraid of a "look at me" paint?? Go for it!


DandRauto MSG #705, 01-31-2007 11:36 AM
      I would like to comment on the car and paint.

1st., (Fourpoints9) I think that you really have some good creative talent. I like both the white over orange and black over silver designs. In fact, I love the Black over Silver one the best with the orange stripes.

The customized car body work looks great, a head turner. Nice work for all. Archie the cars get better looking all the time.

But I donít think that these paint and body work goes together. The paint accentuates the wedge look of the Fiero with straight lines. Kind of like a flying wedge shape. But the new body works breaks with the stock look with new curves and shapes. So I think that while the paint schemes are nice that ones that would accentuates these new shapes and curve would be better. Just my opinion

Everyone keep up the good work. PFF and Fiero people are real creative.

[This message has been edited by DandRauto (edited 01-31-2007).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #706, 02-02-2007 01:29 PM
      A few updates.

As many know we are working on a new decklid for the Perfect Union. We decided to build a new decklid rather than reworking the old one. Troy obtained a new louvered section to cover the engine area like we had done on the other decklid. You may recall the first one we installed was real thin & we had to do a bunch of glass work to thicken it up & get the warps out. He got this one from another supplier & it was plenty thick but it was warped quite a bit.











We tried heat & "C" clamps to try to straighten it out but the glass was just too thick & it had "memory" so we had to thin the fiberglass in certain areas to get it to fles enough to conform to the decklid. After we get it to lay flat & get it glassed in we'll build up the areas where we ground & sanded it thinner.







...............


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #707, 02-02-2007 01:43 PM
      Here we are glassing the vent in & fitting the wing & glassing it in.









Here we have it on the car & are beginning to work on the wing ends because the wing has to be made wider for this body & the ends have to blemd down into the existinf body lines.........









More later

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 02-04-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #708, 02-02-2007 09:38 PM
      Looks good Archie, the lines are flowing nicely.

lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #709, 02-03-2007 07:10 PM
      Hello everyone...new member and first post from a long time Fiero lover. I think im just as addicted to these threads as i am the car! I love this forum. Now, I'd like to make a couple comments. Earlier in the thread there was some debate about ride height of this IMSA. I thought about it for awhile and realized these pictures probably do little justice for the car. Most of the pics are of the car by itself for the most part and i believe if someone were standing right next to it in one of those"down to the ground" pics you might notice the body begins at about the guys Nike Swoosh. Also, does anyone here ever slam their face to the pavement sideways to look at a car? This Fiero is BEAUTIFUL! I'm officially jealous. By the way...has anyone ever swapped a japanese motor into their Fiero?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #710, 02-03-2007 08:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lovethemPF:

Hello everyone...new member and first post from a long time Fiero lover. By the way...has anyone ever swapped a japanese motor into their Fiero?







troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #711, 02-03-2007 08:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lovethemPF:

Hello everyone...new member and first post from a long time Fiero lover. I think im just as addicted to these threads as i am the car! I love this forum. Now, I'd like to make a couple comments. Earlier in the thread there was some debate about ride height of this IMSA. I thought about it for awhile and realized these pictures probably do little justice for the car. Most of the pics are of the car by itself for the most part and i believe if someone were standing right next to it in one of those"down to the ground" pics you might notice the body begins at about the guys Nike Swoosh. Also, does anyone here ever slam their face to the pavement sideways to look at a car? This Fiero is BEAUTIFUL! I'm officially jealous. By the way...has anyone ever swapped a japanese motor into their Fiero?


Thank you and welcome to the forum.


lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #712, 02-03-2007 09:02 PM
      yes, i am a newbie...but no doubt the coolest newbie this side of........my keyboard.

lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #713, 02-03-2007 09:08 PM
      Hey Troyboy, thanks for the welcome...I was wondering how your wheel setup handles. Are there any benefits/disadvantages to a more "traditional" footprint?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #714, 02-03-2007 09:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lovethemPF:

Hey Troyboy, thanks for the welcome...I was wondering how your wheel setup handles. Are there any benefits/disadvantages to a more "traditional" footprint?


Good question, I'll let you know when I get her home.


lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #715, 02-04-2007 03:19 PM
      Hey troyboy...if your as of yet undecided on a color for your Fiero I have a suggestion. GUN METAL. Like any choice it has to be done correctly but man...in my opinion its one of the best choices for a car that looks fast standing still. Im sure there are variations and shades that all fit within the realm of gun metal but my ideal is very near to black but almost a ghosty bronze hue to it...capped off with clear. Have a good one.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #716, 02-04-2007 03:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lovethemPF:

Hey troyboy...if your as of yet undecided on a color for your Fiero I have a suggestion. GUN METAL. Like any choice it has to be done correctly but man...in my opinion its one of the best choices for a car that looks fast standing still. Im sure there are variations and shades that all fit within the realm of gun metal but my ideal is very near to black but almost a ghosty bronze hue to it...capped off with clear. Have a good one.


That is one of the colors that I had in-mind with black ghost stripes. If you have a pic of a car with the Gun metal variation or shade your talking about, please post it. I always welcome help, and ideas from fellow PFF members.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #717, 02-04-2007 08:25 PM
      error

pay no never mind

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 02-04-2007).]

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #718, 02-06-2007 09:05 PM
      Well, there is still fiberglass hanging on it but I think it's lookin' good.









Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #719, 02-06-2007 10:15 PM
      Looks good Archie!

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #720, 02-07-2007 01:14 AM
      Oh, I am sick!!! That has to be the best spoiler EVER on a Fiero.



Sage (sgwfiberglass@gmail.com) MSG #721, 02-07-2007 07:05 AM
      Lookin REAL good Archie!

Hey, you guys are gettin pretty good at this fiberglass stuff!

Was also very glad to see you (Arhcie) give credit where credit is due, i.e., when you mentioned in one of your other threads that none of this glass work would be being done the way it is without the guys you have working for you. Cudos to YOU for acknowledging that. Most folks think this stuff just comes "natural" and don't realize there are methods and procedures that have to be followed, or you don't get the results you wanted. No, it ain't "rocket science", but it takes work and know how to get it right.

Project is coming along very nicely, this one needs to show up in KitCar mag. or Hod Rod or one of those big mags with huge exposure!

Troy, will you be hitting the shows with this thing, or just enjoying it in your home town?

Keep up the great work!

HAGO!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #722, 02-07-2007 08:36 AM
      Thanks, that means a lot coming from you.

Archie

 
quote
Originally posted by Sage:

Lookin REAL good Archie!

Hey, you guys are gettin pretty good at this fiberglass stuff!

Was also very glad to see you (Arhcie) give credit where credit is due, i.e., when you mentioned in one of your other threads that none of this glass work would be being done the way it is without the guys you have working for you. Cudos to YOU for acknowledging that. Most folks think this stuff just comes "natural" and don't realize there are methods and procedures that have to be followed, or you don't get the results you wanted. No, it ain't "rocket science", but it takes work and know how to get it right.

Project is coming along very nicely, this one needs to show up in KitCar mag. or Hod Rod or one of those big mags with huge exposure!

Troy, will you be hitting the shows with this thing, or just enjoying it in your home town?

Keep up the great work!

HAGO!




lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #723, 02-07-2007 12:52 PM
      I must agree with Sage...this is, in my opinion, one of the best looking mod jobs on a fiero i have ever seen. There are so many out there that look stunning but this one truly looks like something backed by a big budget design team and factory support. It looks buttoned down, proportioned and modern. The glass work looks great and just the whole flow of the vehicle is something to admire. I think the entire Fiero enthusiast "family" would feel alot of pride if this car found its way to a big magazine for exposure. And especially you Troy, Archie and crew. If I sound like a dribbling freak...well, I am when it comes to these cars, both stock form and these great alterations throughout the country. Anyway, I know this is a technical thread so i'll stop blabbering.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #724, 02-07-2007 03:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Looks good Archie!


agreed !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #725, 02-07-2007 03:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Well, there is still fiberglass hanging on it but I think it's lookin' good.
Archie


Looking good. If it was my car, I'd be pleased with these results and wouldn't tweek a thing.



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #726, 02-07-2007 03:57 PM
      AS of about 2 hours ago, Kris has the open ends of the wing & the winglets fiberglassed in....







SAFASTRO MSG #727, 02-07-2007 05:22 PM
      Speechless......once again!!!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #728, 02-08-2007 02:42 PM
      looks good Archie, I can see the finish line!!

Sage: Troy, will you be hitting the shows with this thing, or just enjoying it in your home town?
I hope to do a few shows this year.


formula400 MSG #729, 02-08-2007 02:51 PM
      Archie could you look at my thred and help me out if you can
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/080238.html
Thank you so very much


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #730, 02-12-2007 11:52 AM
      Finally an update from last week.

I wanted to get this posted up over the weekend but I have a new guy doing a major upgrade to my web site & I spent most of the weekend EMailing him info on the changes needed. I've still got tons of stuff to send him. It's going to take a week or two to complete it but I think the new web site is going to be great.

The major project was completing the installations of the wings on Curley's car & on the Perfect Union.

Here is the update on Troy's car.......

Sanding & filling to get the shape just right.....





It's beginning to take shape....





Now to get to some serious finishing on the decklid & new vents on the decklid.....



.........


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #731, 02-12-2007 12:01 PM
      We also have to do the fiberglassing & finishing to the underside of the decklid.....





More finishing filling & sanding around the vents. A lot of people don't realize just how much work it can be to install simple parts like vents & wings. But Kris does.





Check out our handy dandy radius sanding tool.....



Archie


Fiero_Adam MSG #732, 02-12-2007 04:30 PM
      Ducktail instead of whaletail....I like it.

Jefrysuko MSG #733, 02-13-2007 01:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
I have a new guy doing a major upgrade to my web site & I spent most of the weekend EMailing him info on the changes needed. I've still got tons of stuff to send him. It's going to take a week or two to complete it but I think the new web site is going to be great.


That's great Archie. I tell alot of people about the products you offer and alot of the time they come back to me and say "I didn't see it on his website!"


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #734, 02-13-2007 04:41 PM
      Originally posted by troyboy:
how about this:


Have you decided yet about the color ? This color looks not too far off for a comparison:


This is a gunmetal color with a hint of olive green, which adds to a 'chique/classy' appearance considering the comments I get. It is a Toyota mica color. I can pm you the code and 2 alternatives I had. It looks quite stealth until sunlight hits and it will sparkle
close up
side pic
Anyway, please take a careful look at your choice of paint, its a mod too and it has to work with the total package.
good luck


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #735, 02-13-2007 07:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:

Originally posted by troyboy:
how about this:


Have you decided yet about the color ? This color looks not too far off for a comparison:


This is a gunmetal color with a hint of olive green, which adds to a 'chique/classy' appearance considering the comments I get. It is a Toyota mica color. I can pm you the code and 2 alternatives I had. It looks quite stealth until sunlight hits and it will sparkle
close up
side pic
Anyway, please take a careful look at your choice of paint, its a mod too and it has to work with the total package.
good luck


Please do send the info, I'm starting to lean more towards a "don't f**k with me" color scheme (aka Elenore) , rather than a "LOOK AT ME" color scheme. If someone could do a photochop from the front with the Elenore color scheme would be great.


PaulJK MSG #736, 02-13-2007 09:08 PM
      Archie, you should make a mold and produce more of those rear decks. Damn, that's nice

lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #737, 02-14-2007 12:49 PM
      Just my opinion here but the "Eleanor" paint is just a little too grey...a little to light. Looks great but a much darker gunmetal would look better. Instead of the olive mix to the paint I think a hint of bronze in a darker paint (dark graphite?) would be perfect and definately say "MOVE BEFORE I EAT YOU" The Bronze would kindof come out in the sun and give it a rich texture and the predominate graphite always looks mean.

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #738, 02-14-2007 02:31 PM
      how's about Candy apple red with a blue metal flake, and some bright pink zebra stripes? J/K

I think your car would look nice in just about any ONE color. I am just not a fan of the bright colors on really muscular looking cars. Kinda like the Ving Rhames wearing a bright red suit. I mean he could pull it off, but ya just would be like....HUH?

Kinda dont like the gunmeteal either becasue it is getting played. Gunmetal now is what yellow used to be in the late 90's early 2000's.
Plus everybody is doing it, so that sux even more for your one of I kind car. It would be like the car's trying so hard to be different that you blend right in.

So, how's about a more basic/forgotten color? White, like someone said earlier would look very timeless and classy on your car. A deep red would look very modern and sleek, some sort of blue, and there is the YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG BLACK. These colors no matter what have lasted the test of time on hot rods, and I can see your car with any one of these colors in a few years and it will still look fresh and new.

But that's just my opinion. No matter what you pick your car will always be one of the "great ones".



lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #739, 02-14-2007 05:57 PM
      I'm now going to imagine Troy's Fiero living in MY garage.... "yep...there she is...and im sooo glad I went with TITANIUM BLACK !"

XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #740, 02-14-2007 06:52 PM
      Never heard of that color. you got an example?



MclarenF1 (poopoomagoo1@hotmail.com) MSG #741, 02-14-2007 07:04 PM
      I would go with nero metallico (ferrari color), or crystal galaxite black (SLR Mclaren color)

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #742, 02-14-2007 09:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MclarenF1:

I would go with nero metallico (ferrari color), or crystal galaxite black (SLR Mclaren color)


Wow that crystal galaxite black is sweet

Now only if the car came free when you buy the paint


dobey MSG #743, 02-14-2007 10:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
Wow that crystal galaxite black is sweet

Now only if the car came free when you buy the paint


No, but if you buy the car, you get a free Batman suit.


CoryFiero MSG #744, 02-14-2007 11:27 PM
      BLACK!!!

Chris Hodson MSG #745, 02-16-2007 02:52 AM
     

Metallic gunmetal is not a bad color at all. It looks pretty bada$$ under dim light. I wish mine was a tad darker, that olive and gunmetal mix is beautiful. This pic was taken under extremely bright light.


ps- I know what your thinking,,, yes,,,it does fly lol



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #746, 02-16-2007 01:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PaulJK:

Archie, you should make a mold and produce more of those rear decks. Damn, that's nice


I wouldn't really feel "right" about doing that.

The vent on the decklid is a part someone else makes. We had a lot of work to do on it to make it fit right but It's still an item someone else already makes. The wing is also produced by someone else & we had to modify it quite a bit to do what we wanted it to do. I know that we've modified both parts enough that they really aren't the same parts Troy originally bought but I still wouldn't feel right about making a decklid that is based off of parts we didn't originate.

On this IMSA kit We've completely modified almost every fiberglass part that we got with the kit. We totally modified the nose, hood, front fenders, rear fenders, roof line "B" pillars & rear bumper but I still wouldn't feel good about making an Archie Version of that kit either.

It would be great if Sage & Dave would build a car with the wheel well modifications & rear bumper mods like we have & then take molds off of it but that would be pretty expensive& time consuming & would slow down their production of parts they now are selling to pay the bills.

So, for quite some time I think this car will be a "one of a kind".

If you look at this car closely, you'll see that the only parts that are unmodified Fiero parts are the windshield wipers, Windshield, Mirrors, outside door handles, side marker lights, steering column & heater controls. So there's not much left to do to this car.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 02-16-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #747, 02-16-2007 03:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

If you look at this car closely, you'll see that the only parts that are unmodified Fiero parts are the windshield wipers, Windshield, Mirrors, outside door handles, side marker lights, steering column & heater controls. So there's not much left to do to this car.

Archie



Is that a challenge? If you want I can think up a few more mods.... just joking, put down the gas can Archie.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #748, 02-16-2007 04:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


Is that a challenge? If you want I can think up a few more mods.... just joking, put down the gas can Archie.


Forget the gas can. But I told Rob & Kris that if you paint it black I'm gonna drive it into a tree.

Black cars just do not photograph well & you hardly ever see Black cars featured in Magazines because it's hard to get good pics of them.

Besides, I'll have 500 "T" shirts to throw away.

Archie


cornersonrails (webearthly@yahoo.com) MSG #749, 02-18-2007 05:22 PM
      Archie, I sent you a PM

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #750, 02-18-2007 11:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


If you want I can think up a few more mods....


What. Did somebody call my name?



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #751, 02-19-2007 11:04 AM
      did somebody say more ideas? how about some grill mesh in those louvers...




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #752, 02-19-2007 09:56 PM
      How about some pictures of what this wing decklid area looks like all put together.











For all of those going to the Daytona show, we're happy to announce that we plan to bring this car to Daytona to display it there for the 1st time.

Sorry, it won't have the final paint job & the interior will still need finishing but we plan to give the Daytona people a chance to see it. We will have it primed all one color.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 02-19-2007).]

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #753, 02-19-2007 10:57 PM
      i love to see a NY plate on a chopped widebody. can't wait to see it painted and in person.

doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #754, 02-19-2007 11:47 PM
      I used to be all for the whale tail spoiler, but I can admit that this is looking even cleaner... I like it.



GonsaiPK MSG #755, 02-20-2007 01:25 AM
      Wow, that lip spoiler is perfect! I love seeing this thing come together.

Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #756, 02-20-2007 01:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fie Ro:
this wing has become my favorite now. Looks it works nice with the rear, flows nice with the sides, may match the front lip too.
It may need some matching at the tips with the rear...and for the sides you could extrude em

 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:



Even better ! Nice work.


jack_ink (arielpriceless@tds.net) MSG #757, 02-20-2007 03:09 PM
      I like the Ducktail it reminds me of the CRX and I like them too

FieroMonkey (piccolo@cox.net) MSG #758, 02-21-2007 03:53 PM
      This car truely looks amazing. This car in my opinion will probably be the best looking custom Fiero on the road when it is finished. Well done!

[This message has been edited by FieroMonkey (edited 02-21-2007).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #759, 02-21-2007 06:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jack_ink:

I like the Ducktail it reminds me of the CRX and I like them too



The Camero bow tie wing is greatly over-looked until now! For those who roll w/o a stock wing...IMO this is the better/stylish way to go. Good work Sage and Archie and the Crew for installing it.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #760, 02-22-2007 12:36 AM
      The problem with seeing this car in white is that I see it as a blank canvas for mods:.....




It does not have to stay chrome, it can be painted to match the car or painted black.

and



They would become functional with future engine mods

Photo shop anyone?


FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #761, 02-22-2007 12:07 PM
      I would be ok with the NACA duct, not the lincoln/buick/mercedes/cadillac side vents, to mee it doesnt fit the make, theme or style fo the car.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #762, 02-22-2007 01:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:

I would be ok with the NACA duct, not the lincoln/buick/mercedes/cadillac side vents, to mee it doesnt fit the make, theme or style fo the car.



IMO, I agree too.

Hmm...the Caddy side vents (chrome or not) IMO wouldn't flow with the other vents already on the car due to the center piece dividing the vents and doesn't have a "race-ready" flow.




Maybe if that piece was removed then it would match the existing vent found on the side rear vents and the ones located on the deck (currently not cut out)? Your car IMO has a "race-ready" flow and the clear ones (clear or not) fit the bill but better, where and how it will look is the toughest question. It seems the work for the "race-ready" Fiero. Notice the little vent on the side.




doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #763, 02-22-2007 01:48 PM
      Some places look like a "blank" canvas for more modifications but sometimes blank is good... the car is looking awesome already, I guess what I'm saying is try not to "over-mod" it or clutter it.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #764, 02-22-2007 06:03 PM
      I agree with the general consensus, time to wrap this baby up before I hit the over kill switch. I may play with the clear nascar vents mounted into the rear quarter windows.

FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #765, 02-22-2007 06:16 PM
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NACA_duct
some more information on the clear scoops.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #766, 02-22-2007 07:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

I agree with the general consensus, time to wrap this baby up before I hit the over kill switch. I may play with the clear nascar vents mounted into the rear quarter windows.


Yeah, don't change it too much. Your car is going to be the featured car in the foreground on the "T" shirts I commissioned today so you don't want to get too crazy!!!!

Archie


rims05 (grandturbo05@hotmail.com) MSG #767, 02-22-2007 08:12 PM
      this car is pretty sweet, once i have the money to do something like this i deffinitly will

the only thing i would do at this point is make the tail lights LED, use two red strips and one yellow and put them inside the stock lenses, so it looks stock but also has a modern look, almost all the new high class cars have LED tails now, and it really isn't a hard mod either.

Travis


XzotikGT (marcellus_k@hotmail.com) MSG #768, 02-22-2007 08:22 PM
      that back side is so clean. "throw some d's on that....." j/k



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #769, 02-23-2007 06:09 PM
      Good news Archie!! The 13" brake package was shipped out to me today! As soon as I get them I will ship them to you.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #770, 02-23-2007 07:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Good news Archie!! The 13" brake package was shipped out to me today! As soon as I get them I will ship them to you.


This is a good sign.

Archie


reapermedic (emilehamm@yahoo.com) MSG #771, 02-23-2007 08:34 PM
      Archie,
Where did that spoiler come from? I have to have one. By the way, the craftsmanship is excellent!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #772, 02-24-2007 12:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reapermedic:

Archie,
Where did that spoiler come from? I have to have one. By the way, the craftsmanship is excellent!



The Camero bow-tie wing was/is made by Sage.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #773, 03-02-2007 07:59 PM
      Because we are planning to take this car to the Daytona Show in a few weeks to show it off a little, We've decided to put a coat of primer White on it just so it's all one color.

Mark is planning to come over Saturday to shoot the primer.

Here's what it looked like a couple of days ago.....



We sanded & masked it off today...... now it look like this........







Mark, we're ready for you.

Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #774, 03-02-2007 10:45 PM
      Delay on the brakes!!!! They were just shipped Thursday, I should have them by Monday or Tuesday. I will ship them to you over night $$$ . We may need the ability to stop the car at Daytona

Firefox MSG #775, 03-03-2007 01:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Mark, we're ready for you.

Archie



We had some medical issues to deal with this morning and couldn't come. I'll be there Wednesday after work.

Mark

[This message has been edited by Firefox (edited 03-03-2007).]

lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #776, 03-05-2007 02:19 PM
      Troy...maybe i missed a post but have you decided on color yet?

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #777, 03-05-2007 05:28 PM
      Is Operation: "White-Out" on hold?

Firefox MSG #778, 03-05-2007 06:32 PM
      Nope. The car will be sprayed Wednesday afternoon. It'll be ready to rumble!



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #779, 03-05-2007 09:58 PM
      are you sleeping ok troyboy? i can only imagine how hard it is to sleep when your car is sooo close to being done!

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #780, 03-06-2007 12:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lovethemPF:

Troy...maybe i missed a post but have you decided on color yet?


I hope he goes with the Orange



Archie


Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #781, 03-06-2007 08:37 PM
      looks like somebody is starting to learn photoshop...

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #782, 03-06-2007 08:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by lovethemPF:

Troy...maybe i missed a post but have you decided on color yet?


Yep, I think Archie gave you a clue

 
quote
Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

are you sleeping ok troyboy? i can only imagine how hard it is to sleep when your car is sooo close to being done!


Sleep? who needs sleep


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #783, 03-06-2007 09:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

looks like somebody is starting to learn photoshop...


Yeah, I wish that was my work.

If I could learn the photoshop skills that I've seen used on this Forum, then I think I'd have learned enough skills to last me & keep me busy 'til I croak.

You have a PM.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 03-06-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #784, 03-07-2007 04:56 PM
     


shipping out to you tomorrow Archie!!


GKDINC MSG #785, 03-07-2007 05:36 PM
      Well, where's the painted pic's?
Guess I will have to wait till Daytona and check it out in person.
Gary


GODFATHER (sandroauto@sc.rr.com) MSG #786, 03-07-2007 05:50 PM
      No No No We can't wait till Daytona . We want pics ASAP.


Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #787, 03-07-2007 05:57 PM
      I can't afford to go to daytona so i would like some pics please!!!

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #788, 03-07-2007 07:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GODFATHER:

No No No We can't wait till Daytona . We want pics ASAP.


I just got off the phone with Archie. One painted side is finished on the "Perfect Union."

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 03-07-2007).]

Firefox MSG #789, 03-07-2007 09:39 PM
      Well, there is primer on the car. It's entirely white and looks really great! It's not going to be painted before Daytona.....it's just got a couple of coats of a primer / sealer to protect the bodywork until the car is painted it's final color. It's amazing how much different the car looks when it's one color and you can't see the areas where the bodywork was done. Archie has pics of the car in primer and it's fabulous! It really changes the character of the car.

Mark



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #790, 03-07-2007 10:23 PM
      Here is Mark shooting the Primer



& some pics of the car when he was done....











Archie


doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #791, 03-07-2007 11:53 PM
      looks aggresive... I like

GKDINC MSG #792, 03-08-2007 05:47 PM
      The paint looks great. Thanks for the pic's
Gary


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #793, 03-08-2007 08:55 PM
      Thanks for a great job Mark, Archie and Crew.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #794, 03-08-2007 09:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Thanks for a great job Mark, Archie and Crew.


Well, it's just a 1st primer coat, but it's all one color & is a good place for the body guy to start.



Troy, give me a call if you get some time tomorrow.

Archie


mrfiero (mrfiero@juno.com) MSG #795, 03-08-2007 09:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:







Looks very nice....just wondering of you plan on keeping the stock mirrors or if you're going with something different.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #796, 03-08-2007 10:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mrfiero:
Looks very nice....just wondering of you plan on keeping the stock mirrors or if you're going with something different.


I've been looking in to that ,but I haven't found a set that I like yet. IMO most after market mirrors don't fit the fiero.


AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #797, 03-08-2007 11:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


IMO most after market mirrors don't fit the fiero.


Agreed, and painting them body color makes them look that much better.


sYkboy MSG #798, 03-09-2007 12:09 AM
      Archie, man, make an insert for the stock hood like that to sell. Or a whole shell, I guess. NICE....

That thing is bada$$.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #799, 03-09-2007 01:30 PM
      Hey Archie, did you guys cut the openings on the deck lid? Or were they masked off which may it appear to not be cut opened?




fierofetish (nickcann@teleline.es) MSG #800, 03-09-2007 05:22 PM
      I first looked at this thread a couple of weeks ago, and can't help but heap praise on the work done here.I would give up most things I have to be able to work in an environment like this
But... am I allowed to make a comment about the car, without getting crucified? Of course, I realise this is a car for a specific person, and I am sure he will be over the moon with the end product.
When I first saw the pictures of the car all together, I was struck by a thought that the front is too long and heavy.It seems to say 'front engine, rearwheel drive'...which spoils the reality of the car actually being mid-engined.
It did cross my mind that the different colours might have be having an illusional effect, but now it is in one colour, it still looks the same way,TO ME ( and I realise my opinion is irrelevant to the owner). Maybe it has to be that way to accommodate those long long headlight units? Anyhow, I also thought the front is too narrow in relation to the rear half..so I knocked up a poor adaption in Paint, just to satisfy myself.Having done it, I thought maybe you wouldn't mind if I shared it here.If you want to pick it to pieces, I don't have any problem with that, honestly.This is not intended in any way to be a direct criticism of the work done..it is just an innate feeling that I get..fire away
Here is the interpretation I hashed up, against the actual car..and finally, I realise the 'real thing in real life' probably doesn't look the same as in the photos

Nick


Jncomutt (jncomutt@hotmail.com) MSG #801, 03-09-2007 08:38 PM
      I was thinkin the same about the front. The only part that is kinda awkward is the bottom of the front fender. Behind the front tire slopes down and under the car when it seems like it should come outward like the bottom in front of the rear tire. Maybe its just the pic angle though..

BH2OFiero (valbrown@ns.sympatico.ca) MSG #802, 03-09-2007 10:24 PM
      It took me almost eight hours to read this thread from start to finish...I hate dailup.

Troyboy, I am extremely happy you decided to go with the camaro style spoiler. Don't get me wrong...I am a big fan of the whale tale spoilers but I feel it was drawing too much attention away from the other tweeks made to the car.

Archie & crew, once again amazing work. Is Kris a member of this forum. If he is I am sure many of us budget minded hacks (for lack of a better word) would appreciate him doing a how to thread on fiberglassing. Maybe then many of us wouldn't be so affraid of tackling our own projects "pipe dreams" and more of us would start our own one off projects.

-Caleb



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #803, 03-10-2007 08:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by BH2OFiero:

Archie & crew, once again amazing work. Is Kris a member of this forum. If he is I am sure many of us budget minded hacks (for lack of a better word) would appreciate him doing a how to thread on fiberglassing. Maybe then many of us wouldn't be so affraid of tackling our own projects "pipe dreams" and more of us would start our own one off projects.

-Caleb


Actually there are several threads going on right now that have a lot of details on fiberglassing. I've been posting enough detail on how to do it so that people are not afraid to try it at home. Here are just a few of those threads. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064001.html
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/050746.html http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/054448.html & there are more.

Archie




troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #804, 03-11-2007 04:42 PM
      Brakes should be at your shop tomorrow Archie. I hope it's an easy install.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #805, 03-13-2007 06:44 PM
      We got the brakes in yesterday and unpacked them. We also had time to finish taking the old parts off the car.......



I don't know if everybody wants to see a buildup on these brakes, but I'm sure you'd like to see what they look like on the car.











We had a few small glitches come up during the assembly but nothing we couldn't fix. We have both of the front & one of the rear on. We'll be finishing that up tomorrow. Then Bleed the brakes. I'm still in doubt that the stock Fiero MCylinder will move enough fluid to operate these brakes without going all the way to the floor.

Troy, I'll be emailing a bunch of other pics in just a little bit.

Archie


AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #806, 03-13-2007 07:02 PM
      Hey Arch, take a look at the front rotors, then at the rear. Whats wrong? FNG's...lol

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #807, 03-13-2007 07:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AutoTech:

Hey Arch, take a look at the front rotors, then at the rear. Whats wrong? FNG's...lol


Yeah I saw that when I was getting ready to post them. It'll be corrected 1st thing in the morning & no one will ever notice.

Archie


BH2OFiero (valbrown@ns.sympatico.ca) MSG #808, 03-14-2007 10:55 AM
      Them's pretty...me wants.

RenegadeFiero86 MSG #809, 03-14-2007 11:40 AM
      this car is amazing it makes me want to rob a bank and get one made.... right now im just dealin with a 86 2m6 hopefully get a 3800 NA in it get some forged internals and throw a fat shot of juicy juice on that biatch. nice build thou archie i must say. very detailed.
-Renegade-


tampalinc MSG #810, 03-14-2007 01:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
I'm still in doubt that the stock Fiero MCylinder will move enough fluid to operate these brakes without going all the way to the floor.
Archie


When I installed my C5 brakes I also installed a 67 to 80 Corvette Master Cylinder.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #811, 03-14-2007 07:59 PM
      All looks good Archie, but how does she brake?

Daviero MSG #812, 03-14-2007 08:43 PM
      Archie, what is your opinion on the 'hub-centric' vrs 'lug-centric' issue? This issue has been hotly debated elsewhere with no qualified conclusion to my knowledge. I ask this out of interest, and not to start another debate; so 'debaters' please take note I'm only asking Archie.
Thanks,
Dave.


Xanth MSG #813, 03-14-2007 08:48 PM
      Are you going to leave the Corvette markings on the calipers? Look extremely nice otherwise.



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #814, 03-14-2007 10:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

All looks good Archie, but how does she brake?


Well they fit good, look good, & (we drove the car briefly in the parking lot) they stop pretty good. I like them.

We got the stuff all put together right at the end of the day. So not a lot of testing yet & just these few pics today.











Archie



doublec4 (doublec4@hotmail.com) MSG #815, 03-14-2007 11:00 PM
      I think I'm in LOVE



Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #816, 03-14-2007 11:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by doublec4:

I think I'm in LOVE



Yeah, me too.

We're starting to "Feel it" here now.

After the Daytona show, we have a few more tweeks to do & this thing is going to be pretty well wrapped up.

I think the only thing we haven't found yet are the exhaust tips that are going to fit in our rear bumper openings & make the right statement about the car.

Archie


Fiero_Adam MSG #817, 03-14-2007 11:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

I think the only thing we haven't found yet are the exhaust tips that are going to fit in our rear bumper openings & make the right statement about the car.

Archie


Maybe something like this?



Not sure the size of the opening in the rear bumper, but these are 5.75" wide by 3" tall. Looks like it would be a good fit.


88White3.4GT MSG #818, 03-15-2007 11:06 AM
      Are the rear lights going to be stock? Different?

RustyFormula MSG #819, 03-15-2007 11:12 AM
      Hey Troyboy

Who did you get the brakes from and what was the cost? Thanks in advanced.


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #820, 03-15-2007 11:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Xanth:

Are you going to leave the Corvette markings on the calipers? Look extremely nice otherwise.



Heck yeah ! hehehe that is part of what makes them look good !

Having improvement parts from another car is cool, badging your car as something else is not.

The Corvette markings are cool IMO.

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-15-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #821, 03-15-2007 03:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by RustyFormula:

Hey Troyboy

Who did you get the brakes from and what was the cost? Thanks in advanced.


Design1 systems here's the thread with info on the brake set up.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064260.html
the price varies based on the set up that you want them to build. I'm using C5 Z06 13" front rotors and calipers in the front and rear. The only sacrifice you have to make using the larger front set up in the rear is you will have to go with an aftermarket e-brake. I'm use to driving a fiero so the missing E-brake will feel like the norm. hehehe


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #822, 03-15-2007 03:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero_Adam:


Maybe something like this?



Not sure the size of the opening in the rear bumper, but these are 5.75" wide by 3" tall. Looks like it would be a good fit.


Nice more info please.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #823, 03-16-2007 11:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:

Are the rear lights going to be stock? Different?


I prefer the stock GT tail lights. I have a new set from Pontiac in storage and will put them on after all the body work and painting is completed.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #824, 03-17-2007 11:36 AM
      Corvette 13" brake package...is it a "Perfect Union" now? I'd say, Yes.




Hey Troy, before you head to D7, bring a bottle of tire dressing. The meaty tires look over cooked and are ashe, hehe. Oh yeah, did you call ole' Jimbo? Yeah know, just like the "Covette" caliper name, you'll need the HRE logo too. We don't want to be like some of the Corvette guys, faking it with knock-off 541 HRE wanna bee's.


BH2OFiero (valbrown@ns.sympatico.ca) MSG #825, 03-17-2007 02:16 PM
      man that looks sharp.




madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #826, 03-17-2007 02:33 PM
      Was there a "change" in the off-set? Did the rim/tire stick out a little more since the C5 application? Or was there no difference?

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #827, 03-17-2007 06:44 PM
     


Do you guys plan to put the sail panels on prior to the show or just leave them off because the car still needs to be painted ?

Just curious,..looks damn good even without them !


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #828, 03-17-2007 08:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

We got the brakes in yesterday and unpacked them. We also had time to finish taking the old parts off the car.......


Archie



Hey Archie, what the name and size of tool used to install the calipers? I need to have my rotors polished and I need to know what type is used.

Thanks.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #829, 03-17-2007 08:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Was there a "change" in the off-set? Did the rim/tire stick out a little more since the C5 application? Or was there no difference?


With the stock brakes on the front you'll remember that we had to use a 3/8" spacer because the inside hub of the HRE's were hitting the stock calipers.

These new brakes eliminate the reason to use the spacer. They also are using the normal stock fromt hubs with the rotors cut off. Because the 'Vette rotor is about 3/8" thick at the hub the location of the wheel in the front wheel well is the same as it was before.

Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #830, 03-17-2007 08:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:

Do you guys plan to put the sail panels on prior to the show or just leave them off because the car still needs to be painted ?

Just curious,..looks damn good even without them !


Since finishing the brakes last week, we've had at least on person working full time on getting this car ready for D7. BUT I haven't been showing any pictures. I'll take some pics as we load it on the trailer. We even worked a full day today, on this car & the wide body molds, to try to get everything ready for the show. BTW, Yes the windows will be in the car.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #831, 03-18-2007 11:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
Hey Archie, what the name and size of tool used to install the calipers? I need to have my rotors polished and I need to know what type is used.

Thanks.



Ah, you missed one Archie.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #832, 03-21-2007 05:13 PM
     



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #833, 03-21-2007 06:00 PM
      Hey Troy. I heard your car is now being back-in the trailer as I type. I hope you're bringing a extra pair of tousers?

Firefox MSG #834, 03-21-2007 06:24 PM
      The guys that are hauling the car down to Daytona are going to be very careful with it. Make sure that you offer them alcohol when they get there. They will probably need it.

Mark


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #835, 03-21-2007 06:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Firefox:

The guys that are hauling the car down to Daytona are going to be very careful with it. Make sure that you offer them alcohol when they get there. They will probably need it.

Mark


What, no women!!!


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #836, 03-21-2007 07:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Firefox:

The guys that are hauling the car down to Daytona are going to be very careful with it. Make sure that you offer them alcohol when they get there. They will probably need it.

Mark


 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


What, no women!!!


^^^^^^^ To the club we shal go!!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #837, 03-21-2007 08:43 PM
      Well, we're all loaded up & ready to go at 5am.

It was raining when we were loading so no outside pics.







See you all Friday.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 03-21-2007).]

FieroWannaBe (patond@alumni.msoe.edu) MSG #838, 03-21-2007 10:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:




NUT! pants check.

[This message has been edited by FieroWannaBe (edited 03-22-2007).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #839, 03-22-2007 01:02 AM
      Holy Sh**************************T !

That absolutely screams supercar !!

Wow adding the quarter windows, molding, and cleaning it up really makes a big difference !

When this car is painted it is going to be the cause of many an accident (rubberneckers) !

[This message has been edited by exoticse (edited 03-22-2007).]

Fieroseverywhere (caalon777@hotmail.com) MSG #840, 03-22-2007 09:09 AM
      Looks great!

My question is can you even see out of the rear window? It looks like the spoiler (which kicks @ss) will get in the way. Am I wrong on this?

Beautiful car by the way. It am always amazed by the amout of creativity some fiero owners have. Keep up the good work.

[This message has been edited by Fieroseverywhere (edited 03-22-2007).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #841, 03-22-2007 11:09 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fieroseverywhere:

Looks great!

My question is can you even see out of the rear window? It looks like the spoiler (which kicks @ss) will get in the way. Am I wrong on this?



All is clear using the Camero bow-tie wing which, besides the great looks, visability was one of the benefits of using it. The original or the stock wing would have been a issues.



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #842, 03-27-2007 10:30 AM
     

Troy,

Just wanted to say how much i enjoyed meeting you at Daytona.



As awesome as your car was i have to say i was more impressed by you as a person. Just a really genuine guy, and there are not to many people like that out there.

(L to R, Troyboy, Me aka exoticse, Jscott1)


Looking forward to meeting up with you and hopefully Curly again at the Choptop reunion 2 !!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #843, 03-27-2007 11:22 PM
      Thanks for the kind words Tony, I had a blast at Daytona and It was mostly due to all of the great people that I had the chance to meet. I hope to see you and the Daytona crew at upcoming shows and events.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #844, 03-30-2007 06:38 PM
      New tips for the Union,



Jake_Dragon MSG #845, 03-30-2007 07:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

New tips for the Union,


Can you get a sound clip before and after?


Erik (hardkandiboi@hotmail.com) MSG #846, 03-31-2007 01:44 AM
     


wow thats beautiful!!


BH2OFiero (valbrown@ns.sympatico.ca) MSG #847, 03-31-2007 03:35 PM
      Wow...that's pretty.



lovethemPF (pokinaround12@aol.com) MSG #848, 04-03-2007 06:46 PM
      Hey Troy, the car looks better than great. I've been gone a while...any decisions on color that i missed? Timeline? And by the way....i think i speak for all of us here, in case it wasnt already said, that some good videos with good sound would be soooo perfect to cap off this build once completed. Heck, i'd even BUY a well made video, ala Motor Trend TV style. Have a good one!

Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #849, 04-12-2007 07:05 AM
      The car looks great so far... any updates?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #850, 04-13-2007 08:02 AM
      Archie are the new tips on? I'm trying to set a pickup date for the end of the month, or first week in may.

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 04-13-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #851, 04-19-2007 11:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:






madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #852, 04-20-2007 08:17 PM
      Are the AC314B's on yet?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 04-20-2007).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #853, 04-25-2007 03:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Are the AC314B's on yet?




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #854, 04-25-2007 11:02 PM
      We're putting the tips in now. The tips are a bit taller than the opening, so we're modifying the rear facia exhaust openings right now.

Pics soon.

Archie


NOSPOWERV6 (artgarcia@cableone.net) MSG #855, 04-26-2007 04:25 PM
      Archie,

Where did you get the brackets for the C5 calipers? Did you made them? If so how much or where can I get some.

Thanks Art.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #856, 04-26-2007 04:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by NOSPOWERV6:

Archie,

Where did you get the brackets for the C5 calipers? Did you made them? If so how much or where can I get some.

Thanks Art.



The C5 Fiero brake set-up are made by Design 1 Systems.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #857, 04-26-2007 09:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

We're putting the tips in now. The tips are a bit taller than the opening, so we're modifying the rear facia exhaust openings right now.

Pics soon.

Archie




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #858, 04-26-2007 09:22 PM
     

These are some in process pictures of the new exhaust opening. Remember that there is some filling & shaping that we have to do yet.









Archie

Troy, give me a call tomorrow if you can.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #859, 05-04-2007 05:21 PM
      Here's a few pics of the new exhaust tips & remolded rear bumper exhaust openings.









Anyone who's been reading PFF for the last 6 weeks or so knows that the Perfect Union was the most photographed car at the Daytona Show.

Troy has decided to delay his picking up of his car at our place until the Dells Show is over. Which leads me to announce here that Troy & his wife will be driving in to attend the Dells Show & we will be showing The Perfect Union at that show too.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #860, 05-04-2007 08:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Anyone who's been reading PFF for the last 6 weeks or so knows that the Perfect Union was the most photographed car at the Daytona Show.

Troy has decided to delay his picking up of his car at our place until the Dells Show is over. Which leads me to announce here that Troy & his wife will be driving in to attend the Dells Show & we will be showing The Perfect Union at that show too.

Archie



 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


haha yes, it will be all one color.

The interior will not be finished because Curley has someone else that's going to do the interior. He also has someone else doing the bigger brakes & suspension. But the exterior of the car will be presentable. Curley plans to have some more tweeking to the exterior of the car after the Dells show & before he picks it up in September at the Chop Top Reunion.

Archie




avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #861, 05-04-2007 10:09 PM
      Archie, are you going to Carlisle this year? Maybe you can take so us North Eastern state guys can see it.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #862, 05-04-2007 10:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by avengador1:

Archie, are you going to Carlisle this year? Maybe you can take so us North Eastern state guys can see it.


After the dells "The Perfect Union" will make it's way home to L.I. New York. I will make many trips to CT to see friends off of rt.684 and rt.84.


Fiero_Adam MSG #863, 05-04-2007 10:52 PM
      Hey, cool. You used the ones similar to those. They look good. I didn't realize the size would be off that much from the opening, but it looks like Archie & crew did a great job of making the tips look like they belong there.

F-I-E-R-O (andrew-rogers@stny.rr.com) MSG #864, 05-04-2007 11:54 PM
      WOW that looks nice!



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #865, 05-08-2007 05:36 PM
      Archie can you post sound clips of the exhaust with the new tips?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #866, 05-08-2007 08:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Archie can you post sound clips of the exhaust with the new tips?


I'll try to do that tomorrow, I'll have to do it indoors though as we have the car torn apart for other work.

Archie


avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #867, 05-08-2007 09:32 PM
      Let me know when you are in CT and where. Maybe when can get together to see your car.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #868, 05-10-2007 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


Can you get a sound clip before and after?



before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqfdD9Fwcvk

After : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk5tJYh28Sw


Jake_Dragon MSG #869, 05-10-2007 09:42 PM
      Thanks Troy! Sounds great

Fieroseverywhere (caalon777@hotmail.com) MSG #870, 05-10-2007 11:03 PM
      Sound like a completely different car. What a difference. Thats money well spent. Beautiful work everyone.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #871, 05-11-2007 12:32 AM
      Hey, that sounds just like it sounded when I recorded it today.

I recorded it on my digital camera & it came out pretty good.

I guess I gotta figure out how to post videos up on youtube so I can do this more often.

If I can figure out how to post the videos, Then I'll have to post some videos of the test drives.

Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #872, 05-15-2007 07:45 PM
      Just a little update for those that care.

We put the engine in this car more than a year ago. We've had it running for a long time & have moved it in & out of the shop many times. I even drove the car around a little at the Daytona Show.

We never had a chance to really start doing the official test driving of the car, because the body has always been in some state of transition from ugly duckling to what we have today.

But today was the day, we finally started doing the official test driving today. Got in about 20 miles & all is right with the world.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #873, 05-16-2007 07:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

We never had a chance to really start doing the official test driving of the car, because the body has always been in some state of transition from ugly duckling to what we have today.

But today was the day, we finally started doing the official test driving today. Got in about 20 miles & all is right with the world.

Archie



(grumpy ole man says) Pics and comments darn it!

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 05-16-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #874, 05-16-2007 09:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Just a little update for those that care.

We put the engine in this car more than a year ago. We've had it running for a long time & have moved it in & out of the shop many times. I even drove the car around a little at the Daytona Show.

We never had a chance to really start doing the official test driving of the car, because the body has always been in some state of transition from ugly duckling to what we have today.

But today was the day, we finally started doing the official test driving today. Got in about 20 miles & all is right with the world.

Archie


Wow how did I miss this post? Please do tell, well only if it's good news


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #875, 05-25-2007 04:48 PM
      Whats new Archie ? any updates? Only 1 week before the Dells!!

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #876, 05-25-2007 11:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Whats new Archie ? any updates? Only 1 week before the Dells!!


It's all good.

We got the new A/C compressor today & installed it & it works fine.

I took it for an extended ride today & it feels good. Got the guys working tomorrow to get ready for the Dell's weekend.

The only thing, left to do on that car is to put some screens in the vents/scoops where you want them.

Give me a call or drop me an email on that subject as soon as you can.

Archie


Sourmug MSG #877, 05-26-2007 01:35 AM
      Archie:

If you have time I'd be interested in seeing how you attach the screens to the intakes and scoops.

Thanks
Nolan


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #878, 05-27-2007 03:41 PM
     
Bump. Because---good threads should never die.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #879, 05-27-2007 11:38 PM
      (Depends wearing gumpy ole' man says') Dang nab bit Archie, how'd bout' some new pickn's? We ain't getting any younger ya know, hehe.


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #880, 05-29-2007 11:12 AM
      Troy, the guy called & the trailer will be here this afternoon.

Archie


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #881, 05-29-2007 04:33 PM
     





madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #882, 05-30-2007 01:36 PM
      Cool.

GKDINC MSG #883, 05-30-2007 02:31 PM
      So when does it go to paint? ( The car that is)

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #884, 05-30-2007 04:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by GKDINC:

So when does it go to paint? ( The car that is)


Troy is going to have the final paint & have the interior finished after he gets it home.

I encourage all of my Chop Top customers (& others) to have their cars painted by someone close to where they live so that they can have any problems fixed without having to go too far to get it done.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #885, 05-30-2007 10:33 PM
      We need to test the VDC doors inside your trailer.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #886, 05-30-2007 11:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

We need to test the VDC doors inside your trailer.


It might be easier than climbing thru the sunroof.

A


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #887, 06-06-2007 01:21 AM
      Hey Troy, do you find yourself wondering into the garage late at night, since the chopper's at home?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #888, 06-06-2007 03:45 PM
      Well, at this point Troy has his Perfect Union back at home in it's own little place in his garage.

I thought I'd update this page to reflect all the stuff that's gone on in the last week on his car & the Dell's show.

Earlier on this page of the thread, you saw that Troy's new trailer had been delivered to our place for the run to the Dells & then Troy was going to take the car home in the trailer.

Well, to make a long story short, Troy's trailer was completed correctly on the outside but they hadn't done all of the custom stuff inside that Troy had ordered. So the next morning after I posted up his trailer pics. (& Troy had seen them) The trailer was picked up an taken back to Indiana to be completed correctly. It was then returned to us Friday afternoon & we loaded it quickly & headed for the Dells. All in all it turned out great. The dealer he had ordered it from went to bat for him to the manufacturer to get it done correctly & quickly & we arrived to the Dells about 6 hours after I had planned to be there. Kudo' to that dealer for doing the best he could to make it happen. And it didn't ruin the rest of our weekend.

The trailer deal has us spending some extra time in my parking lot Friday morning, so I managed to get a lot of good pics at that time.

Here are some........











And a few pics I took at the Dells show.....





I'm very proud to announce that The Perfect Union won the Best of Show Award at the Dells show. We'd like to thank the people who voted for this car dispite the fact that the interior is not finished yet & the paint still has to be done. Otherwise Phase One of it's build is complete.

It also won the award for the Fiero that most exemplifies what the Fiero might have been had the production continued.

I didn't take a lot of pics at the Dells, so anyone who has some they'd like to post would be thanked for posting them up.

Thanks

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 06-06-2007).]

Gokart Mozart MSG #889, 06-06-2007 08:17 PM
      Any pics of the new trailer?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #890, 06-06-2007 08:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:

Any pics of the new trailer?


When it finally arried we were so much in a hurry to load & leave for the Dells that it didn't occur to us to take pics of the inside.

However, I'll bet that Troy can take a few pics of it soon for us.

Archie


Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #891, 06-06-2007 08:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:








That's a gorgeous interior!!! I love it that more attention is spend these days on making gorgeous interiors. :-D Especially when sitting in traffic, this would bring a huge smile to one's face.
But,...but where is the cupholders?:-p j/k




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #892, 06-06-2007 08:52 PM
      ...

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 06-07-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #893, 06-06-2007 09:20 PM
      Lisa and I are back home safe and sound with the car. We had a great time and met a lot of great people. I just want to thank all the great Fiero owners who voted for the car, an award that comes from fellow owners means a lot. I wish I had more time to take some PICS but looks like I will have to wait until the weekend. My job has me working crazy hours, but the trip to the Dells was worth it. Once again thanks to all for a great time and thanks to Archie and crew for doing a great job on the car. Now on to phase 2...

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #894, 06-06-2007 09:34 PM
     



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #895, 06-06-2007 09:38 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


When it finally arried we were so much in a hurry to load & leave for the Dells that it didn't occur to us to take pics of the inside.

However, I'll bet that Troy can take a few pics of it soon for us.

Archie



I'll try to take some pics of the inside this weekend. The trailer is in storage, so I will drive by and take some pics.


Firefox MSG #896, 06-07-2007 12:19 AM
      I actually have a few pics of the inside of the trailer while loading the car after the show. I'll pop them up tomorrow after work.

Mark


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #897, 06-10-2007 04:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
I'll try to take some pics of the inside this weekend. The trailer is in storage, so I will drive by and take some pics.


Okay.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #898, 06-10-2007 08:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:


Okay.


Didn't have time to go to the trailer, not sure when I will. It's stored about 35 min. from my house.


Firefox MSG #899, 06-10-2007 10:42 PM
      Ok....a little late, but here are the ones that I have...











Mark


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #900, 06-13-2007 10:20 PM
      Thanks for posting the pics Mark, I'm just getting home from my 4 day hospital stay. I should be back in action in a few days, just gald to be home and it's kool to look at pics from the Dells.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #901, 06-13-2007 10:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Thanks for posting the pics Mark, I'm just getting home from my 4 day hospital stay. I should be back in action in a few days, just gald to be home and it's kool to look at pics from the Dells.


Are you ok?

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 06-13-2007).]

Firefox MSG #902, 06-13-2007 11:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

......4 day hospital stay.....



Ummm.....hospital stay? You ok?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #903, 06-13-2007 11:12 PM
      Well, they claim that I'm better now than before the hospital stay . The back log, stress at work, and the all you can eat crab legs from the dells finally caught up with me. One of my major arteries was 75% clogged, but all fixed now. Hay Archie did the surprise shipment arrive?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #904, 06-13-2007 11:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Well, they claim that I'm better now than before the hospital stay . The back log, stress at work, and the all you can eat crab legs from the dells finally caught up with me. One of my major arteries was 75% clogged, but all fixed now. Hay Archie did the surprise shipment arrive?


Something arrived that I wasn't expecting & that I have no idea who had it shipped to me.

Is that what you're talking about?

Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #905, 06-13-2007 11:31 PM
      Yep that must be it. I'll call you in the am.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #906, 06-13-2007 11:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Yep that must be it. I'll call you in the am.


Call me on the cell phone. Gotta make a run to pick up parts at a couple of machine shops. Lots of driving tomorrow & lots of time to talk.

Archie


typhoon MSG #907, 06-14-2007 09:59 PM
      ...pffffft....pfffffft.....pffffffffft... wewwww.....
Oh, Wow, kool Fiero man.
...pffffft....pfffft



(sorry, could not resist)


Fieroseverywhere (caalon777@hotmail.com) MSG #908, 06-15-2007 09:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by typhoon:

...pffffft....pfffffft.....pffffffffft... wewwww.....
Oh, Wow, kool Fiero man.
...pffffft....pfffft

[QUOTE]

Someone left the sprinkler on! lol



exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #909, 06-15-2007 09:52 PM
     

Wow Troy,

Glad to hear that you are ok ! Sounds like it was a very scary situation.



PaulJK MSG #910, 06-16-2007 05:46 AM
      Archie, welcome back ! Eat a bowl of Raisan Bran every day - it'll help

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 06-16-2007).]

exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #911, 06-27-2007 12:00 AM
     

Troy,

Any update on the paint or the interior ?


thebaron (eric.murray@tekkoshocon.com) MSG #912, 06-27-2007 03:25 PM
      I was hoping Perfect Union was going to the Carlisle GM Show...

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #913, 06-27-2007 07:44 PM
      [QUOTE]Originally posted by exoticse:
Troy,

Any update on the paint or the interior ?


no updates, just driving and enjoying the car for the summer and recuperating from the bill$$$ ....
The paint and interior will start after Archie completes phase 2 after the choptop homecoming in september. The hopeful time line:
september, october = Archies for phase 2
november= back to New York to tweak it NY style
december, january= prep and paint
february= interior


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #914, 06-27-2007 07:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by thebaron:

I was hoping Perfect Union was going to the Carlisle GM Show...


when is the show?


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #915, 06-27-2007 07:55 PM
      ok if you are driving it, when can I see it? I'll let you laugh at my spider cracks and bad paint....

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #916, 06-27-2007 08:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by tjm4fun:

ok if you are driving it, when can I see it? I'll let you laugh at my spider cracks and bad paint....


PM sent


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #917, 06-28-2007 03:00 AM
     

Driving ? Cool.

Sounds like we need to hear a few of your encounters on the Choptop Chronicles !


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #918, 06-28-2007 07:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by exoticse:
Driving ? Cool.

Sounds like we need to hear a few of your encounters on the Choptop Chronicles !


Yeah, & where's the pictures. I also want to hear what that "fancy pants" neighbor of yours thinks thinks of it by now.

We're going thru withdraw symptoms here, so throw us a bone.

Archie


Skybax MSG #919, 06-28-2007 11:19 PM
      That is one sick Fiero.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #920, 06-29-2007 07:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


Yeah, & where's the pictures. I also want to hear what that "fancy pants" neighbor of yours thinks thinks of it by now.

We're going thru withdraw symptoms here, so throw us a bone.

Archie


Well no crazy stories but, it now takes me about 30 min. to fill up with 8gallons of gas. I tried going at night but she still draws a crowd. BTW my 3 1/2 year old daughter loves the door poppers.


AutoTech (boosted2m6@yahoo.com) MSG #921, 06-29-2007 08:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


Well no crazy stories but, it now takes me about 30 min. to fill up with 8gallons of gas. I tried going at night but she still draws a crowd. BTW my 3 1/2 year old daughter loves the door poppers.


LOL, great stuff !


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #922, 06-30-2007 09:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


Well no crazy stories but, it now takes me about 30 min. to fill up with 8gallons of gas. I tried going at night but she still draws a crowd. BTW my 3 1/2 year old daughter loves the door poppers.


Hehehe madcurl warned of this phenomenom, once u get a choptop.

Get used to it.


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #923, 06-30-2007 08:44 PM
      Well, I was lucky enough to see the Perfect Union firsthand today. I als had the pleasure or meeting Troy in person for the first time. A true gentleman and very genuine person! we had a goo long chat on cars and boats, took a short blast around, ( I think Troy missed the young lady on the bike pointing at the car and givin it the thumbs up....)
What a blast that car is! hard to believe it's a 4 cylinder! :lol: must be that spare 4cylinder thats kept in the back there. Really sweet job on that motor, it pins you nicely in the seat, even tho Troy was not into it all the way throttle wise (stupid weekend traffic).
As for the looks, well to steal Paris's line, it is HOT, even in the white prime, it';s hard to take your eyes off it. it's gonna be a reall show winner when it's all done! (that is if Troy stops coming up with little ideas)
Took a few pics, I tried to get some differrent angles than the earlier shots, Troy wanted to show off the stance and the difference in front to back width, that was tricky, I tried form the front and the back, and if you follow the line form the rear tifre, you can see the differrence...






While stting there I noticed you really don't see how wide those rear tires are, tried to get that here:



the obligatory eye level profile shot:



and the last thing an ant sees before that 10foot wide rubber squishes it:



and not to be outdone, this pic is the only one the lighting was perfect on, might be from Troy rightfully beaming over his baby:



had to crop those to fit the forum rules, here's links to the full size ones if anyone wants:

http://img329.imageshack.us...hp?image=stance1.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us...hp?image=stance2.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us...hp?image=stance3.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us...php?image=rubber.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us...hp?image=profile.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us...age=antslastview.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Troy.jpg

(actually I think those got compressed too, so Troy if you want the original full size, pm me an email addy to send em to)

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Mister MSG #924, 06-30-2007 09:18 PM
      AMAZZZZZZZZZZING



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #925, 06-30-2007 10:28 PM
      Simply...beautiful.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #926, 07-01-2007 08:04 AM
      Had a great time, made a new friend and made some cool pic's. Thanks for stopping by Tom and hopefully we will hook up at a local fiero event.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #927, 07-21-2007 04:24 PM
      Well time for a little update on the union. The union is in the custom auto shop here in NY having some electronics installed, Free Boston Acoustics speakers (pickup a sponsor), integrated radar/laser detector/jammer, front and rear view cameras, review mirror with dual color LCD screens, Alarm with GPS locator, The shop is not charging me for labor in exchange for letting them display the car in a in-house audio show last weekend and a few upcoming shows. The funny part is that they had the car on display before they even installed the first wire.
They put a note on the windshield telling people to contact V8.Archie for info on the body and engine work due to the crowd asking so many questions. Thumbs up to Archie and crew , you now have a growing fan base in NY.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #928, 07-21-2007 10:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


They put a note on the windshield telling people to contact V8.Archie for info on the body and engine work due to the crowd asking so many questions. Thumbs up to Archie and crew , you now have a growing fan base in NY.


Did Archie leave you a couple of business cards? You know, the ones like these?

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #929, 07-22-2007 12:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mrfiero:


Looks very nice....just wondering of you plan on keeping the stock mirrors or if you're going with something different.

 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


I've been looking in to that ,but I haven't found a set that I like yet. IMO most after market mirrors don't fit the fiero.



Hehehe.



troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #930, 07-29-2007 04:58 PM
      Wow 6 pages of hate on a tuner forum. I guess I should feel honored.


http://www.supercars.net/Ga...allery&galleryID=714
http://www.supercars.net/Pi...D=1&fID=1&tID=134863

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jscott1 MSG #931, 07-29-2007 05:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Wow 6 pages of hate on a tuner forum. I guess I should feel honored.


http://www.supercars.net/Ga...allery&galleryID=714
http://www.supercars.net/Pi...D=1&fID=1&tID=134863




hehe, I'm sure by now you have learned not to care what a bunch of 12 years olds think about your car. Most of them don't even know what a Fiero is in the first place.


jscott1 MSG #932, 07-29-2007 05:28 PM
      I couldn't help but join that lame forum to defend the honor of the Fiero...

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #933, 07-29-2007 06:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Wow 6 pages of hate on a tuner forum. I guess I should feel honored.


http://www.supercars.net/Ga...allery&galleryID=714
http://www.supercars.net/Pi...D=1&fID=1&tID=134863



Those haters are not Fiero people.

When you take the Fiero out & introduce it's capabilities to the outside world, you have to expect to attract haters. But the quiet(er) majority will always out number them 100 to 1.

Archie


tjm4fun (tjm4fun@yahoo.com) MSG #934, 07-29-2007 08:47 PM
      wow, what a pack of @ssh0les.
sad part is most of those wannabe's drive some 10 colored crx with 100 stickers on them and wouldn;t know which end of a piston goes up . As Troy knows, they are all over the place round here.... "tuners" ..... they know everything... and drive cars with "dubs" pointin out at funny angles and fartcans draggin on the road. I wouldn't even bother signing up there. (actually I avoid signing up at most all car forums due to the 10000:1 ratio of idiots to people who do understand cars, that site seems worse than the usual )

just laugh at them, their opinions are as valid as their spelling and grammer! :lol:


Formula88 MSG #935, 07-29-2007 08:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Wow 6 pages of hate on a tuner forum. I guess I should feel honored.


http://www.supercars.net/Ga...allery&galleryID=714
http://www.supercars.net/Pi...D=1&fID=1&tID=134863



Fieros have always seemed to be a love or hate thing. If they're not into Fieros, they hate them - even if they've never heard of them before. People just like to make fun of them - Pontiac's Rodney Dangerfield.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #936, 08-07-2007 01:19 PM
      Okay Troy (Gun Smoke western lingo), "Were them picks!"

Sourmug MSG #937, 08-07-2007 01:49 PM
      Hi Troy:

Do you have a picture of your car from the back showing the deck lid closed? I'm interested in seeing how you had the vent openings cut and finished.

Thanks
Nolan


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #938, 08-07-2007 03:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Hi Troy:

Do you have a picture of your car from the back showing the deck lid closed? I'm interested in seeing how you had the vent openings cut and finished.

Thanks
Nolan



#22 is in the shop for the week, but I'll try to take some pics this weekend.


Sourmug MSG #939, 08-07-2007 04:31 PM
      Thanks, I'd appreciate it.

Nolan


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #940, 08-07-2007 06:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Okay Troy (Gun Smoke western lingo), "Were them picks!"








MclarenF1 (poopoomagoo1@hotmail.com) MSG #941, 08-07-2007 06:59 PM
     



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #942, 08-08-2007 12:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:







Hmm. I think I may need the same set. I'm digging the mesh screen.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 08-08-2007).]

Gokart Mozart MSG #943, 08-08-2007 08:11 PM
      There are some interesting cars like the Twinstar Cadillac (more) and the Corvette powered Civic

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #944, 08-09-2007 06:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Hi Troy:

Do you have a picture of your car from the back showing the deck lid closed? I'm interested in seeing how you had the vent openings cut and finished.

Thanks
Nolan

Not opened but....since we're waiting and all, hehe.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #945, 08-10-2007 05:31 PM
      Open vents:

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Sourmug MSG #946, 08-11-2007 10:29 PM
      Thanks for the pics! I'm hoping for a closer shot though.

Nolan


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #947, 08-11-2007 11:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Thanks for the pics! I'm hoping for a closer shot though.

Nolan







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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #948, 08-12-2007 12:27 PM
      Hey Troy, could you place the strut tower brace bar onto your car? I need to see how it lays cause I may need to call for one and a rear sway bar; all that glass in the back needs to be used.

Thanks.


Sourmug MSG #949, 08-12-2007 01:40 PM
      Thanks Madcurl!

Troy, are you planing on using the mesh in the deck lid vent openings? How are you planing on attaching it? The reason I ask is that I have the same deck lid.

Thanks
Nolan

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #950, 08-12-2007 02:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Thanks Madcurl!

Troy, are you planing on using the mesh in the deck lid vent openings? How are you planing on attaching it? The reason I ask is that I have the same deck lid.

Thanks
Nolan



Yes, the mesh will be placed in all the vent openings front and back after paint. As to how that is still a good question,

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 08-12-2007).]

Sourmug MSG #951, 08-12-2007 05:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


Snip: As to how that is still a good question,


I thought it might be.


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #952, 08-13-2007 09:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Okay Troy (Gun Smoke western lingo), "Were them picks!"

I'm going to change the speaker grills to flush mount for leg clearance.



Front


back


rear view camera


front view camera





troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #953, 08-13-2007 09:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Sourmug:

Thanks for the pics! I'm hoping for a closer shot though.

Nolan


This is from the final version of the rear deck lid


Sourmug MSG #954, 08-14-2007 12:19 AM
      Troy, that looks great! I like the angled ends of the openings.

Nolan


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #955, 08-14-2007 01:48 AM
      Nice. I like those two door mounted speakers....although the shape of them reminds me of something.




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #956, 08-14-2007 08:16 AM
      We can't wait to play with all the toys.

The front view camera = COOL!!!

The rear view camera = COOL!!!

The Dual Boobie Speakers = (as Curley would say) "Im feelin' it"

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #957, 08-18-2007 04:26 PM
      Hey Troy, did you get the "boobies" down sized? B-cup?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #958, 08-18-2007 09:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Hey Troy, did you get the "boobies" down sized? B-cup?


The size reduction will have to wait until after Choptop 2, I'll have to relocate the tweeters before I change them to flush mount.

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 08-18-2007).]

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #959, 08-18-2007 11:00 PM
      Hey Troy, don't forget to bring with you the Corvette brackets. Thanks.

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 08-18-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #960, 08-18-2007 11:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

Hey Troy, don't forget to bring with you the Corvette brackets. Thanks.



The orininal front brackets should still be at Archies.


Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #961, 08-19-2007 01:31 AM
      Where did you get the strut bar? I am looking all over for one

My 501st post is my first page steal YES!

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #962, 08-19-2007 01:49 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr.PBody:

Where did you get the strut bar? I am looking all over for one

My 501st post is my first page steal YES!



http://www.fierostore.com/Product/Browse.aspx


Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #963, 08-19-2007 12:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Wow 6 pages of hate on a tuner forum. I guess I should feel honored.

http://www.supercars.net/Ga...allery&galleryID=714
http://www.supercars.net/Pi...D=1&fID=1&tID=134863



I feel like I need a shower after reading that vile forum.


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #964, 08-19-2007 08:15 PM
      Anything new to report, pics?

Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #965, 08-20-2007 12:20 AM
      NVM I found it. But just FYI the fierostore doesn't let you direct link, you have to right click, hit properties, and copy that link.

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madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #966, 08-20-2007 02:51 AM
      http://www.fierostore.com/Product/Detail.aspx


FierociousGT MSG #967, 08-21-2007 12:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:
Front



hahaha.... I love that.... Laser jammer! Sounds more like a stealth fighter...


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #968, 08-21-2007 03:35 PM
      Hey Troy, lets some some beef! 255/30/19 beef!

Mr.PBody (paniccia008@aol.com) MSG #969, 08-21-2007 05:09 PM
      I guess the properties trick doesn't work with the Fiero Store.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #970, 09-15-2007 10:42 AM
      Did you receive the wheel lock Archie?

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #971, 09-15-2007 03:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Did you receive the wheel lock Archie?


Yes, got it.


Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #972, 09-15-2007 08:23 PM
      Love the K40 , although if you already have a custom exterior, I'd consider getting them "stealth" flush mounted. While you're at it, you could get Laser diffusers flush mounted. IIRC Laser diffusers have to be 12"-18" away from anything reflective, i.e. front license plate, headlamps.

-M


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #973, 09-24-2007 10:14 PM
      .

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #974, 09-26-2007 05:02 AM
      .

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #975, 09-28-2007 03:15 PM
     

FierociousGT MSG #976, 09-28-2007 03:27 PM
      Any reason you didn't go with the GT Factory 90 degree hinges?

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #977, 09-28-2007 05:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:

Any reason you didn't go with the GT Factory 90 degree hinges?


I wanted to go with something that has been proven to work, The only GT factory install I know of has issues with the the door staying up if the car is not level. Plus a true 90 degree door would hit a IMSA front end, the fenders stick out too far.


FierociousGT MSG #978, 09-28-2007 08:02 PM
      Is this the same hinge Curly is using? This door kit seem to open up more.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #979, 09-30-2007 03:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FierociousGT:

Is this the same hinge Curly is using? This door kit seem to open up more.


I'm not sure, but both are made by VDI.


FierociousGT MSG #980, 09-30-2007 03:53 PM
      Thanks, I'll PM you to night...

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #981, 10-02-2007 04:29 PM
      "Man in the mirror."

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #982, 10-02-2007 07:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:

"Man in the mirror."




fieroluv (bpickell2003@yahoo.com) MSG #983, 10-02-2007 08:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:






I hope that's a misprint. Laser Jammer = Legal, Radar Jammer = felony

[This message has been edited by fieroluv (edited 10-02-2007).]

FierociousGT MSG #984, 10-02-2007 11:40 PM
      Thanks for the PM with the pictures of the F### mirrors... hehehe... All I can say is awesome!

I'm going to be hanging around to see the results of those mirrors!


exoticse (exoticse@netzero.com) MSG #985, 10-03-2007 12:01 AM
     

Just curious Troy, do you plan to leave the recessed f-??? numbering on the new additions ?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #986, 10-03-2007 12:09 AM
      ^^^ nope, going to fill it in or replace it with something symbolizing the Fiero

[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 10-03-2007).]

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #987, 10-04-2007 06:42 PM
      Talking and sharing ideas with curly can get pricey...........


thanks for the idea curly, now it's "Archie time".




FierociousGT MSG #988, 10-04-2007 06:49 PM
      specchi bei !

Can Archie make molds of them.... Just joking


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #989, 10-04-2007 07:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

Talking and sharing ideas with curly can get pricey...........

[thanks for the idea curly, now it's "Archie time".



No problem. I think "Archie and the Crew" are really enjoying the moment in installing real Ferrari F430 mirrors for the first time on a Fiero non replica car. Just goes to prove, you don't need a replica; just tweak your current Fiero using modern parts.



Alex4mula (torres_a@hotmail.com) MSG #990, 10-04-2007 08:18 PM
      Ferrari owners now can now be proud to see their mirrors in a Fiero Hopefully you use them more to see them behind than the other way around.
On another note, when will we have the pleasure to see this baby painted? Aren't you tired of that white?


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #991, 10-04-2007 08:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Alex4mula:

Ferrari owners now can now be proud to see their mirrors in a Fiero Hopefully you use them more to see them behind than the other way around.
On another note, when will we have the pleasure to see this baby painted? Aren't you tired of that white?


It's going to be painted by a Fiero specialist , this winter.


MotorTV (motortv@hotmail.com) MSG #992, 10-05-2007 12:16 AM
      Hey... Are you the one that coped my mirrors...... LOL



Chuck


Old Lar MSG #993, 10-05-2007 09:37 AM
      Not F340s but:


FierociousGT MSG #994, 10-05-2007 10:19 AM
      I like how they extend out. Looks like red head mirrors (Testa rossa )


Fie Ro (roderick.baas@tros.nl) MSG #995, 10-05-2007 01:30 PM
      the 'F430' labeling doesnt make sense to me...., the number is a reference to the donor car engine displacement (in litres)....in your case it should be 383cui= 6,3 litres (rounded off).


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #996, 10-05-2007 02:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Old Lar:

Not F430s but:


Nice. I've seen those too on sale on Ebay. Hey Old Lar, do the mirrors flex?

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Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #997, 10-05-2007 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MotorTV:

Hey... Are you the one that coped my mirrors...... LOL



Chuck


CHUCK !!!!!! Get out of that car before you break it!!!!!!!

A


MotorTV (motortv@hotmail.com) MSG #998, 10-06-2007 02:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:


CHUCK !!!!!! Get out of that car before you break it!!!!!!!

A


I didn't break it... So there...
btw.. Way too small of a gas tank....
Chuck


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #999, 10-06-2007 11:39 AM
      From what I hear, more F430 mirrors maybe on order.....
Excellent!!!! let the wide-body tweak fest begin.

.....Well for me it's close to the end, I need to get this puppy in paint.


jscott1 MSG #1000, 10-06-2007 01:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:


It's going to be painted by a Fiero specialist , this winter.


After he's done painting mine...hehe



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1001, 10-06-2007 04:45 PM
      Are they there yet, are they there yet!


Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #1002, 10-06-2007 05:45 PM
      now i really can't wait till your car makes it's way to new york completed... hopefully it'll be before the 25th. i want to come see it in person.

madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1003, 10-07-2007 12:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:



The VDC have landed, the VDC have landed!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1004, 10-09-2007 05:21 PM
      Troy, we did a test fit of the mirrors onto the mounting brackets that we made for Curley's 360 mirrors.

They appear to be a really good fit.

What do you think?

We're going to make brackets for your car right away, so let me know if it looks ok.













We should have pics of them on your car tomorrow.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1005, 10-09-2007 06:08 PM
      Wow! Nice fit and trim.

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troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #1006, 10-09-2007 09:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Troy, we did a test fit of the mirrors onto the mounting brackets that we made for Curley's 360 mirrors.

They appear to be a really good fit.

What do you think?

We're going to make brackets for your car right away, so let me know if it looks ok.

Archie


It's a go!!


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1007, 10-10-2007 01:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by troyboy:

It's a go!!








Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1008, 10-10-2007 03:11 PM
     





LITEDAZE (dr_cray69@astroboymail.com) MSG #1009, 10-10-2007 03:15 PM
      those fit perfectly!



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1010, 10-10-2007 04:09 PM
      The" Perfect mirror" for the "Perfect Union." This is tweaking 101.

jscott1 MSG #1011, 10-10-2007 04:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Archie:



YES!!


Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1012, 10-10-2007 06:03 PM
      I took about 60 pics of this car outside today & it looks great from all angles.

The shape & look of these mirrors are perfect for this car.











Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1013, 10-10-2007 06:07 PM
     





Now to the doors.

Archie


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1014, 10-10-2007 06:19 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Archie:
Now to the doors.

Archie


Yeaahhh!!!




Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1015, 10-10-2007 08:06 PM
      It looked good earlier today, now it looks like this.



Archie


troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #1016, 10-10-2007 09:28 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by Archie:



Archie






ferrobi MSG #1017, 10-10-2007 11:07 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by troyboy:


Nice mirrors Troyboy - those would look good on my F40 replica - what did you shell out for them?



Finally_Mine_86_GT (luv2eatsome@yahoo.com) MSG #1018, 10-10-2007 11:17 PM
      personally i would fill in the "f430" but that's just me. lookin good.

troyboy (mrtroyboy69@yahoo.com) MSG #1019, 10-11-2007 05:11 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT:

personally i would fill in the "f430" but that's just me. lookin good.


The F430 will be filled in or modified


madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #1020, 10-11-2007 11:28 AM
      Once those VDC are on; you know I'm going to faint.



m0sh_man (macantley@suddenlink.net) MSG #1021, 10-11-2007 08:44 PM
     

can someone please take alot of photo's of the car in the red box, i need many many photo's of this car and how its pieced together, please please please take many pictures of it and post them for me.

matthew


FierociousGT MSG #1022, 10-11-2007 10:24 PM
      Seems like your looking at the Fiero Limo with the caved in center.

Archie (archie@v8archie.com) MSG #1023, 10-12-2007 12:04 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by m0sh_man:

can someone please take alot of photo's of the car in the red box, i need many many photo's of this car and how its pieced together, please please please take many pictures of it and post them for me.

matthew


I'll take some pics of it by Monday.

That car is for sale real cheap.

The car isn't caved in. The builder did a real good job of welding 2 Fieros together with a boxed framework that's a straight as an arrow. The only thing that I would have done differently is to use 3 Fiero roof sections instead of 2. The Forward section of the rear Fiero & the back section of the front Fiero dip down because of their original roof lines. The dip down in the gap between the 2 roofs makes it look like it's not straight.

Archie


Brother Rat MSG #1024, 10-12-2007 07:02 AM
      That is an incredible job on that car, Archie. It is sweet!

Kudos to you and your crew!

Pete



m0sh_man (macantley@suddenlink.net) MSG #1025, 10-12-2007 08:05 AM
      maybe ill keep saving so ill have enough to make you a reasonable offer, did this car run/drive?
im in the process of getting a rust free 87 coupe cleaned up enough that i can start drilling out the spot welds, i was going to use two fiero's and extend them i was figuring two years for just the stretch time, by then i might be able to save up enough (got a new baby on the way so saving money takes alot of time when i only get about 25,000 a year after taxes) who knows, maybe ill one day be able to get that car from you, You dont need a indy pace car do ya ive got one that needs alot of restoration work, and doesnt have an engine currently.

matthew


 
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Originally posted by Archie:


I'll take some pics of it by Monday.

That car is for sale real cheap.

The car isn't caved in. The builder did a real good job of welding 2 Fieros together with a boxed framework that's a straight as an arrow. The only thing that I would have done differently is to use 3 Fiero roof sections instead of 2. The Forward section of the rear Fiero & the back section of the front Fiero dip down because of their original roof lines. The dip down in the gap between the 2 roofs makes it look like it's not straight.

Archie




Firefox MSG #1026, 10-12-2007 05:56 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by m0sh_man:

....... You dont need a indy pace car do ya ive got one that needs alot of restoration work, and doesnt have an engine currently.........



Hmmmm..........how much you looking for the car? Maybe I can help finance your limo project a bit. I'd love to have a Indy to play with.