Lets Convert a Fiero to Right Hand Drive
Topic started by: AusFiero, Date: 12-16-2005 06:46 PM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000004.html


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #1, 12-16-2005 06:46 PM
      Well my new 88 GT is in the country so now the fun starts. It has to be RHD to be complianced and registered. The aim here is to also keep the conversion cost under $2000. If I sent it off to be done it would cost about $6000 to $8000.
First I will post some pics of the victim, oops car, an 88 GT with 60K miles on the clock and a lot of mods I was suprised to discover upon its arrival in the country.

Here it is hiding amongst the other toys. The white GT in the driveway is now sold as is my parts car. Leaving me with 1 Fiero instead of 3 GTs.

Sitting in the garage ready to be torn down.

It is a really nice condition GT.

Ever wondered what 245/60/15s look like on a GT? Huge.


Next post I will start the conversion. Apparently I have to go out and buy a new washing machine now as the repair guy just left and it is FUBAR.




The Aura (cikonen@uwinnipeg.ca) MSG #2, 12-16-2005 07:44 PM
      Looks to be a pretty sweet start.


Is that commmodore a clubsport?


3.8 SC MSG #3, 12-16-2005 10:26 PM
      I will be watching this! I always thought it would be cool to have RHD car here in the states. Take lots of pics!
I like what you did to your driveway, nice house too.



jscott1 MSG #4, 12-16-2005 10:59 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by The Aura:

Is that commmodore a clubsport?

It looks like a GTO.... maybe a cousin.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #5, 12-17-2005 12:22 AM
      The Holden is a Monaro. The father of the GTO

Anyway back to the RHD conversion. First we strip out the interior of the Fiero. I am sure most people here know how to do that so I wont devote a lot of time to that.

A pic of the partially stripped interior.

After the interior is out we start the conversion to the dashboard, as it is the piece all other pieces need to line up to.
These pics are of the stripped down dash marked out read to cut the dash.

After the dash is all marked out we cut out the areas that need swapping over. I did all my cutting with a hacksaw blade.

Note on this shot that the dash area around the steering colum has been cut into 2 pieces? Well that is so the colum can be centered into an exact mirror position on the RH side of the dash.

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AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #6, 12-17-2005 12:32 AM
      Next we tape all the peices back together using plain old masking tape and small straight edge guides made form broken up hacksaw blades taped in as well to keep things straight. At this point you will notice things don't line up along the bottom of the dash. We align with the recess in the top of the dash to keep the glove compartment area and the gauge panel straight. We don't worry about the bottom not lining up. We will get to that soon.

Here is what the back looks like all ground up ready for joining.

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AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #7, 12-17-2005 12:41 AM
      As the back of the dash wont be seen I wasn't concerned too much with looks on the join. Just strength. So here I applied a liberal coating of 2 part epoxy glue.

After the glue has dried we take all the tape off and then prepare for the next stage. Making the bottom of the dash line up. Here is the bottom section cut out.

After lining up the bottom section you end up with a V shaped gap and on the drivers side a piuece cut off the bottom of the dash. You use the same tape method to line it all up and apply more epoxy glue. The glue also fills the V shaped gap.

After removing the tape again you end up with a 1 piece dash which looks like this.

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2000RagTop (mwwhite@earthlink.net) MSG #8, 12-17-2005 12:44 AM
      Hi AusFiero

I apologize for jumping in here. Could I ask you a big favor while you have the dash pulled? Could you snap me
a couple of pictures of the Power Window-Power Door Lock harness? I only need the ends “where they plug in”
I’m installing this upgrade on my Formula, and it would be nice if I could see the ends of the harness where they
are attached/plugged in.

Also, if you’re able to get a picture of the “white block” near the fuse panel?
I know you’re busy with your own work, but I haven’t been able to find anyone that has their dash apart.

Thank,
Michael

p.s. good luck with the conversion!


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #9, 12-17-2005 12:44 AM
      The next stage seems strange but works well and will definately save Money without having to pay $550 to reskin the dashboard.
At this point you fill all gaps in the dash with plain old Bondo. Yes it flexes different to the standard dash finish but we will get to that problem next.
Here are some pics of the dash all bondoed nice and smooth and in a perfect shape.

Almost looks like a dash again right.

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AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #10, 12-17-2005 12:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 2000RagTop:

Hi AusFiero

I apologize for jumping in here. Could I ask you a big favor while you have the dash pulled? Could you snap me
a couple of pictures of the Power Window-Power Door Lock harness? I only need the ends “where they plug in”
I’m installing this upgrade on my Formula, and it would be nice if I could see the ends of the harness where they
are attached/plugged in.

Also, if you’re able to get a picture of the “white block” near the fuse panel?

I know you’re busy with your own work, but I haven’t been able to find anyone that has their dash apart.

Thank,
Michael

p.s. good luck with the conversion!

I can do that for you tomorrow when I take more pics.
Cheers
Jim

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2000RagTop (mwwhite@earthlink.net) MSG #11, 12-17-2005 01:02 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:


I can do that for you tomorrow when I take more pics.
Cheers
Jim

Jim, Thank you very much !!

lurker (mraboy@att.net) MSG #12, 12-17-2005 02:05 AM
      i hope the red stuff on the dropcloth isnt blood.

yons (yons@aol.com) MSG #13, 12-17-2005 06:10 AM
      keep them coming AUS..

Gokart Mozart MSG #14, 12-17-2005 11:05 AM
      Have you thought of an aftermarket A/C unit to open the space under the dash?

Here's a conversion for a 59 Caddy. Dash was cut in 5 places and cost about $10,000 in 1996 and some history on conversions.

jscott1 MSG #15, 12-17-2005 11:44 AM
      Awesome build up. I never knew exactly how the conversion was done. I can see why it would be expensive to have it done professionally.

Maybe someday this won't be required as I read about a prototype that has drive by wire controls and they can be easily placed in front of any of the three front seat passengers.



PK MSG #16, 12-17-2005 12:14 PM
      Neat work Aus. Now I can point our lot to this thread if they ask about RHD conversion, rather than sending them to pester you direct Are you using the Volvo steering rack? I have also heard that a Ford Sierra rack will fit?!

Think you said it was law to have RHD in Aus, we are lucky enough to have the option to leave as LHD.

Cheers
PK
Edited for spelling and general incompetence!

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Sourmug MSG #17, 12-17-2005 12:55 PM
      Excellent thread! This would be very helpful for those of us who want to modify the existing dash for a more updated look. keep the pictures coming.

Nolan

FieroMontreal (bastien_ja@hotmail.com) MSG #18, 12-17-2005 01:14 PM
      Great work Aus! Don't give up!

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #19, 12-17-2005 04:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PK:
Neat work Aus. Now I can point our lot to this thread if they ask about RHD conversion, rather than sending them to pester you direct Are you using the Volvo steering rack? I have also heard that a Ford Sierra rack will fit?!

I am actually using an underdash chain drive conversion. From past experience and FIeros I have foudn this to be a better system as the steering configuration stays as per factory. Also the heater doesn't need to be moved nor does the brake master cylinder. Fieros I have driven with a full RHD conversion never seem to feel as nice as one which is essentially still LHD.


FieroMontreal (bastien_ja@hotmail.com) MSG #20, 12-17-2005 05:02 PM
      How does that system work Aus?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #21, 12-17-2005 05:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by FieroMontreal:

How does that system work Aus?

I will have pictures during the week when the unit arrives that will show it better but the basic principle is the steering column gets cut in half. The lower half stays on the left side of the car and the upper part gets mounted on the right side of the car. Joining the 2 is a chain drive unit which is basically a multi chain unit enclosed inside a metal casing. They are very strong and precise and have been engineered to do the job on any LHD car. All states of Austraia allow them as they are often the better alternative to chopping up too much of the original car.

Custom2M4 (custom2m4@hotmail.com) MSG #22, 12-17-2005 06:32 PM
      Looks good Aus! I've always liked the wingless GT's!



FieroGTdude (jtidwell88@hotmail.com) MSG #23, 12-17-2005 11:39 PM
      Very nice!
Keep up the good work.


Frizlefrak (dcarson@elp.rr.com) MSG #24, 12-18-2005 12:45 AM
      This is, by far, one of the coolest build threads ever. Keep up the good work Aus....you've got us on the edge of our seats.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #25, 12-19-2005 04:19 AM
      Previously I mentioned the dash would crach between the bondo and original dash section so now we move onto the solution.
We take fibreglass tissue and lay 1 to 2 layers over the entire lower dashboard section. After first masking off the upper dash section at the recess along the top of the dash. Not shown in these pics but very self explanatory.

For those who do not know what fibreglass tissue is well it is basically fibreglass matt but so light it is like tissue paper with fibres. Light, flexible and strong. This will stop the joins in the outter dash cracking before we move onto the next stage.

The following pictures show the now fibreglassed dash.

Next we will move onto smoothing the dashboard skin out ready to paint, Beechwood of course.

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jscott1 MSG #26, 12-19-2005 11:22 AM
      So when you are done the entire dash will have the texture of solid fiberglass? Not that that is a bad thing I'm just wondering if that's the way it turns out. I'm lousy at upholstering, so I'm considering the same method for my next dash.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #27, 12-19-2005 04:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

So when you are done the entire dash will have the texture of solid fiberglass? Not that that is a bad thing I'm just wondering if that's the way it turns out. I'm lousy at upholstering, so I'm considering the same method for my next dash.

Nope next stage is a quick going over with the sander and then high fill primer to get rid of the glass pattern. After that I am going to experiment (on something else) with duplicating a vinyl texture. If that fails I will be doing a smooth finish. The smooth finish is only on the face of the dash as the top of the dash has not been touched.



Gordo MSG #28, 12-19-2005 05:43 PM
      Impressive!

timmer MSG #29, 12-19-2005 11:44 PM
      very nice work aus

agrabo85fiero MSG #30, 12-20-2005 08:47 PM
      allways wondered how they converted fiero to RHD . it would be real cool to have a fiero with two steering wheels

Old Lar MSG #31, 12-20-2005 11:57 PM
      Some really nice dash work. How does the steering rack hook up to the steeing column now that the steering is on the right side? Can you just flip the rack over? It can not be that simple.

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dguy MSG #32, 12-21-2005 10:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Old Lar:

Some really nice dash work. How does the steering rack hook up to the steeing column now that the steering is on the right side? Can you just flip the rack over? It can not be that simple.

Aus answered that 12 or 13 posts above this one. The relocated column is linked up via an under-dash chain drive. Looking forward to seeing it, Aus!

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #33, 12-21-2005 11:14 AM
      Cool topic... I too have always wondered & contemplated doing something like this! What is the cost for the chain/steering system? Also, does it take care of the brake & throttle connections too?

yellowstone MSG #34, 12-21-2005 02:59 PM
      Just something I thought of then reading this: the Unimog truck made by Mercedes-Benz has a steering column that can slide from LHD to RHD:



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #35, 12-21-2005 05:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

Cool topic... I too have always wondered & contemplated doing something like this! What is the cost for the chain/steering system? Also, does it take care of the brake & throttle connections too?


The chain drive unit (the most expensive part of the conversion) costs $1100 AU, or about $800 US.

The throttle connection will probably just be handled by a custom made cable. That may change along the way if I come up with a cheaper alternative. Unlike my first Fiero though that had a bike brake cable tied, yes tied to the lever of the original setup and routed out into the front of the car and back into the interior. Real quality job that was when I got it.

The brake pedal is handled by fabricating a cross shaft setup . Basically the pedal is depressed on the right side and a shaft twists inside a custom made tube to an attachment on the left side which operates the master cylinder. I will probably have to set up a clutch setup while I am doing that because I have my 3800SC setup with a manual trans to put in later. More worried about just getting it RHD and registered for this summer though.


jscott1 MSG #36, 12-21-2005 09:28 PM
      Do they inspect for the quality of the conversion or just look in the window to see what side the steering wheel is on? It sounds like some of the conversions could be dangerous.

When I was in the Bahamas years ago nearly all the cars were American LHD cars and they drove on the left. That would terrify me. Good thing they don't allow that in Australia.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #37, 12-21-2005 09:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:

Do they inspect for the quality of the conversion or just look in the window to see what side the steering wheel is on? It sounds like some of the conversions could be dangerous.

When I was in the Bahamas years ago nearly all the cars were American LHD cars and they drove on the left. That would terrify me. Good thing they don't allow that in Australia.

They are very fussy about the quality of the conversion. It has to be inspected by a mechanical engineer.
Cars over 30 years old are allowed to be driven without conversion.



fieromadman (j_depies@hotmail.com) MSG #38, 12-22-2005 01:54 AM
      darn, getting close to 30 years with some fieros now though!

2000RagTop (mwwhite@earthlink.net) MSG #39, 12-22-2005 10:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 2000RagTop:

Hi AusFiero

I apologize for jumping in here. Could I ask you a big favor while you have the dash pulled? Could you snap me
a couple of pictures of the Power Window-Power Door Lock harness? I only need the ends “where they plug in”
I’m installing this upgrade on my Formula, and it would be nice if I could see the ends of the harness where they
are attached/plugged in.

Also, if you’re able to get a picture of the “white block” near the fuse panel?
I know you’re busy with your own work, but I haven’t been able to find anyone that has their dash apart.

Thank,
Michael

p.s. good luck with the conversion!

I know your busy with this........

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #40, 12-22-2005 11:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 2000RagTop:


I know your busy with this........

They are in the camera. Tonight is the next upload

markviiisvt4 MSG #41, 12-22-2005 11:37 PM
      Could fieros be bought new in Aus.? If so how did they end up right hand drive? I'm guessing GM didnt' build them that way so I'm assuming some one was contracted to do them.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #42, 12-23-2005 12:02 AM
      Nope, no new ones. All Fieros in Australia are private imports.

markviiisvt4 MSG #43, 12-23-2005 12:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:

Nope, no new ones. All Fieros in Australia are private imports.

Thanks that answered a few questions lol. Awsome work by the way, I'm glad you decided to start a thread on it since I wanted to start aquiring parts but didnt' know what I had to get :-P.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #44, 12-23-2005 12:11 AM
      Ok the next stage was fairly simple, but time consuming.

The first picture is of the dash after it was fibreglassed and the join between the upper an lower sections were rough. That was smoothed in with a little bondo and some imperfections int he tissue work were also filled. Now the dash is ready for the next stage. High fill primer which unfortunately has to wait as the paint supplier is closed and I am out of hardener and thinners.

Today (fingers crossed) my chain drive unit will arrive.

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Rickady88GT (rjkmfam@sbcglobal.net) MSG #45, 12-23-2005 01:10 PM
      Now would be the PERFECT time to convert it over to power steering too I would get an Olds Intrigue power rack and flip it over for a right hand driver. The rear steer rack would work great as a front steer right hander. The ratio is VERY quick and the travel is compatible with the Fiero. It also has Magna Steer so the assist will be variable if you could link the VSS to the Mag unit in the steering spool



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #46, 12-23-2005 04:19 PM
      Well dang it. One of my sites is down. Containing all the pics. Stupid registry didn't fix up the renewal like they said they would.
Oh well looks like time to edit every post and put them on my other server.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #47, 12-23-2005 04:51 PM
      Ok that fixes the images back up.

Well after a hassle with the courier not delivering yesterday I had to literally go to the depot today and pick up my steering unit. Only took multiple phone calls all over the country and people s cell phones to get it. Ok it is christmas but if something is supposed to be delivered it should be. Not left in the truck for next year.

But all that aside. Here is the chain drive steering unit. It is sort of self explanatory. The next fun bit is working out how to modify the steering column to be two pieces, to make it all work.

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PK MSG #48, 12-23-2005 05:13 PM
      This is great Aus, thanks for making the effort to write all this up.

Who makes that unit? Any part# available?

Looking forward to seeing this all come together. Very neat.

Cheers
PK


jscott1 MSG #49, 12-23-2005 06:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:

Here is the chain drive steering unit. It is sort of self explanatory. The next fun bit is working out how to modify the steering column to be two pieces, to make it all work.

I've never seen anything like that before in life. There isn't much demand for converting RHD cars to LHD in this country. The handfull of RHD cars that exist, (mostly JDM imports) just drive along with the RHD.

I'm really interested to see how you change the structure under the dash and mount up that chain drive. Are you working from an example or making this up as you go along?

Jake_Dragon MSG #50, 12-23-2005 07:34 PM
      I wonder if you could change the steering ratio so it was tighter. I would be tempted to open that sucker up.
Good job on the dash, your pretty good at that stuff you should sell it


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #51, 12-23-2005 08:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


I've never seen anything like that before in life. There isn't much demand for converting RHD cars to LHD in this country. The handfull of RHD cars that exist, (mostly JDM imports) just drive along with the RHD.

I'm really interested to see how you change the structure under the dash and mount up that chain drive. Are you working from an example or making this up as you go along?

Making it up as I go along.
My last Fiero was a chain drive so I have a rough idea what goes where.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #52, 12-23-2005 08:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by PK:

This is great Aus, thanks for making the effort to write all this up.

Who makes that unit? Any part# available?

Looking forward to seeing this all come together. Very neat.

Cheers
PK

American Machines in South Australia make them. They are pretty much made to order.



markviiisvt4 MSG #53, 12-24-2005 09:06 AM
      that thing is pretty damn cool

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #54, 12-25-2005 02:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:


American Machines in South Australia make them. They are pretty much made to order.

Very cool... so you provide them with the width (distance from side-to-side) to make the change, and they fab 'em up to order?

86GT3.4DOHC MSG #55, 12-25-2005 03:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


I've never seen anything like that before in life. There isn't much demand for converting RHD cars to LHD in this country. The handfull of RHD cars that exist, (mostly JDM imports) just drive along with the RHD.

I'm really interested to see how you change the structure under the dash and mount up that chain drive. Are you working from an example or making this up as you go along?

Lol, do the ricers in Australia think the somehow being LHD makes like car faster, like the ricers and thier RHD cars here, lol.

markviiisvt4 MSG #56, 12-25-2005 10:19 PM
      Hey I like RHD and that fiero sticker on my windsheild knocked like 3 seconds off my ET but that was only after i put those 30 non functioning gauges in and used that trash can for a muffler. LMFAO ok back to the build and i really do like RHD

techman2 (mtphrenic@suddenlink.net) MSG #57, 12-28-2005 12:18 AM
      Bump

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #58, 12-28-2005 12:24 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:


Very cool... so you provide them with the width (distance from side-to-side) to make the change, and they fab 'em up to order?

Well with the fiero one he had the measurements form previous ones. But for unknown models, yeah, he can just fab to order.

Now to find some more time to continue working. Paint shop still isn't open either.


Donaldria (donaldmuir@mweb.co.za) MSG #59, 01-01-2006 03:48 PM
      Hi

I'm also looking in changing from LHD to RHD and I just got the dash of today, one thing I want to ask is why not changing over the hole thing with steering rack and colume why do you need to use this exstra part. The other thing is the air vent fan and casing what are you going to do there.
The job on the dash looks good keep it going.



ToonTownfiero MSG #60, 01-01-2006 08:04 PM
      This is great,
Keep up the good work.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #61, 01-01-2006 08:38 PM
      Next update coming soon. I have the column out and disassembly started and the steering unit has been trial fitted. I will upload that stage tonight. Tonight AUstralian time.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #62, 01-09-2006 11:07 PM
      Still have them to upload and more done. Oh to have more time for posting....More coming soon

Kentish MSG #63, 01-10-2006 05:32 AM
      Hi Aus,

I've been following this with interest and it's a great build up thread you have.

Mine is also RHD and has the Ford column and rack with a thick bulkhead mounting plate to accomodate the pedal box and the brake servo. The handbrake has also been swapped over to the right and the auto shifter turned around. The aircon and blower etc has also been moved to the left side.

My dash is the part that lets the conversion down, the dash covering is stretched and wrinkled where it has been modified and looks poor so I'd like to pull it all out and start over with the dash.

Are you going to recover yours or smotth and paint it after?

I've been considering reinforcing mine like you have with yours and then smoothing the lines and using the electro static method of applying spray flocking onto it (like on the Lotus Elise and Exige).

I'll keep reading this great thread as I'm eager to know how it all progresses for you.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #64, 01-10-2006 08:05 AM
      I was goign to recover it but to get it vacumn covered like original is $550 or so. So I decided I am going to paint it now. It will be smooth but you really do not see a lot of the lower section. The top section will remain original.



revin MSG #65, 01-10-2006 08:39 AM
      Aus,

Wow dude
this is one thread I want to know all about!!!
Never seen this before !
many pics please!!!



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #66, 01-13-2006 02:26 AM
      Ok I finally have a bit of time to post. I have done some more work on the steering.

Well here is a pic of the interior stripped out ready to work on. The dynamat was an added bonus but the powercord speaker cables have got to go.

Next we have to drop the steering column ready for modifications. All the wires have also been labled for future modifcations and extensions to go to the other side of the car.

The steering column out on the bench ready for demolition, oops disassembly I mean.

The inside of the car minus column ready for future modifications.

The chain drive unit is now mocked into place. The bottom shaft of the unit is already connected into the factory shaft at floor level. Of course the unit will have to be mounted higher up and mounts made but at least I know it fits now.

You can see where the chain drive units shaft couples up with the factory steering shaft at floor level.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #67, 01-13-2006 02:35 AM
      Now back to the coloumn. Remove the steering wheel and the mounts and here is what you are left with.

After stripping off a few pices we strike a dead end. This plate has to be compressed to release a retaining clip on the shat. Of course this and a few other jobs on the column need factory GM tools.

I overcame this one by cutting the ends off some old clamps and tensionsioning down the plate with them. A bit bulkier than GMs idea but it works.

Well here is the disassembled steering column. I left out a lot of details as it is not really related to just RHD conversion. I did have to make a tool to get the pivot pins out of the tilt column. I welded a bolt onto my slide hammer and it got them out easily.


A picture showing the profiles of the streerin shaft and the shaft of the chain drive unit. A collar will need to be made to join these together.

After removing the collapsible section of the steering shaft by drilling out the nylon retainers I have marked out the column shaft ready for cutting. On another day.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #68, 01-13-2006 02:41 AM
      While all this was going on I did some more work on the dash.
Here is the now RHD dash needing duct work. As you can see the factory ducting will no longer fit as it is routed different on each side. Note how it sits up in the centre.

The now pasengers side of the ductwork marked off ready for cutting, prior to making new ducts.

The ducting all cut away and a 6X9" speaker mocked into place. Now is a good time to fit them and to also box them into enclosures while making new duct work.

You can see how the center duct now sits down in place like it is supposed to. After the passenger side is complete I will start on the drivers side ans the old duction is all in the way of the new steering column area. First I will ahve to mount the column to work out clearances.

Well that is it for now.

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agrabo85fiero MSG #69, 01-21-2006 06:04 PM
      you have to move the antena to the left side to make it "right",and change the wipers to eliminat blind spots on the new drivers side

BUMP

[This message has been edited by agrabo85fiero (edited 01-23-2006).]

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #70, 02-13-2006 12:21 AM
      Any updates, Aus?

skywurz (wpddjsky@sbcglobal.net) MSG #71, 02-13-2006 01:36 AM
      i shold convert mine then evory one wold think its a rare import b/c they have never seen a fiero lol but id lose my tilt and thats no good. It also loos like you lose your radio space and what about the shifting dose that stay the same or will it be switched? To bad you have to convert it you dont have to do that hear (rh to lh) at least i dont think you do. looks like your doing a awsome job best of luck

[This message has been edited by skywurz (edited 02-13-2006).]

HellYes MSG #72, 02-15-2006 06:06 PM
      I'm confused. Wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier to just flip the strreing rack over and put a real collum in it?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #73, 02-15-2006 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by skywurz:

i shold convert mine then evory one wold think its a rare import b/c they have never seen a fiero lol but id lose my tilt and thats no good. It also loos like you lose your radio space and what about the shifting dose that stay the same or will it be switched? To bad you have to convert it you dont have to do that hear (rh to lh) at least i dont think you do. looks like your doing a awsome job best of luck


No updates as I have been really busy with work.

Just a couple of things. You do not lose the tilt. The chain drive actually mounts up and back from the radio space so it is not affected. The shifter can be turned around to put the button on the right side of the shifter with the auto.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #74, 02-15-2006 06:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by HellYes:

I'm confused. Wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier to just flip the strreing rack over and put a real collum in it?

Far from it. The heater box is in the way. To do a full conversion you have to make a new firewall to move the heaterbox. Then relocate the brake master etc etc etc. A LOT more work.

Fierobsessed (nstarfiero@aol.com) MSG #75, 02-16-2006 05:03 AM
      And if you flipped the steering rack over, the car would steer backwards. You'd need a different rack for that.

1986 Fiero GT (trevorjecklund@gmail.com) MSG #76, 02-24-2006 03:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by HellYes:

I'm confused. Wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier to just flip the strreing rack over and put a real collum in it?

You'd have to re-engineer the car, and unless you've got a 4+year degree in Mechanical Engineering, I doubt the engineers inspecting the cars would pass it. Though that's not a terribly bad idea for me to try. One of these days I'm going to buy a busted Fiero for $200 or less and just experiment with it. Do everything I want to do to my 86GT, but don't want to destroy it with.

YELLOWFIERO88 (yellowfiero88@aol.com) MSG #77, 02-24-2006 06:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fierobsessed:

And if you flipped the steering rack over, the car would steer backwards. You'd need a different rack for that.

No you would not. Dont trust me. I dont know what i am saying

Great thread. I am also doing a RHD swap on my VERT. I Have flipped over the rack and will be switching all the pedels over also. However I will be using aftermarket parts for the brake system.
edit because sometimes I have brain farts


Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #78, 03-05-2006 06:54 AM
      This has to be one of my personal favourite threads.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #79, 03-05-2006 07:00 AM
      If all my clients pay me this week I will finally be able to have 2 weeks off work to finish it

avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #80, 04-12-2006 10:13 PM
      Any more progress on this?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #81, 04-25-2006 08:29 AM
      Well I have finally had time to get back into this project. (Seeing I have sold the house and have to get it out of the garage pretty fast.)
Now it is time to disassemble and modify the steering column.

When you lack the proper GM compressor tool, compromise to get the locking ring off.


I will skip the rest of the steering column disassembly as I am sure there are threads about that.

Once the column is disassembled It is time to shorten the main steering shaft. Here is a pic of the shaft and the steering conversion unit to show how they match up, shape wise.


Here is the shaft masked and ready to cut to length.


The shaft cut to length.


Next we cut the steering column housing. It is double walled near the collapse point so it takes a little to get through. I have also ground off the mounting lug on the column.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #82, 04-25-2006 08:44 AM
      Well I doubled up a bit above but here we go.

This shot shows the column housing ready to weld to the bracket on the chain drive steering unit.


Here is the housing now welded to the bracket, ready for reassembly of the column.


Next I used part of the old steering column collapsible section to make the joiner for the column to chain drive unit. I have bolted this with low tensile bolts so in an extreme case of frontal collision they can still snap. These bolts replace the original plastic ones on the now discarded column section.


And here is the finished column. Note the inspection hatch. That is where the column shaft will be bolted to the chain drive shaft. Through the mounting sleeve for strength.


Next thing to do is to mount the column in the car to work out new mounting points for the headlight dipper unit and the neutral safety lock mechanism.

[This message has been edited by AusFiero (edited 04-25-2006).]

Fiero1Fan (fiero1fan@fieros.eu) MSG #83, 04-25-2006 08:52 AM
      Wonderful work. I really enjoy watching you make this conversion.
Will you be changing the shifting pattern also? So that 1st gear is up-right instead of up-left?

[This message has been edited by Fiero1Fan (edited 04-25-2006).]

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #84, 04-25-2006 09:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero1Fan:

Wonderful work. I really enjoy watching you make this conversion.
Will you be changing the shifting pattern also? So that 1st gear is up-right instead of up-left?


This Fiero is an automatic, which is actually harder to convert thanks to the neutral safety switch. But on manuals we have the same shift pattern as the rest of the world. Up left for first.



cire36 (duncan863@gmail.com) MSG #85, 04-25-2006 12:50 PM
      AusFiero,

Where did you get the knowledge to do this? Have you done this before or is it best educated quess?

I would never be brave enough to even attempt somthing like this (or a home chop top).

Great work.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #86, 04-25-2006 07:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by cire36:

AusFiero,

Where did you get the knowledge to do this? Have you done this before or is it best educated quess?

I would never be brave enough to even attempt somthing like this (or a home chop top).

Great work.

I am basically winging it and solving each problem as it arises. The current problem is where to mount the headlight dimmer switch and the neutrral safety switch as they no longer fit in the standard location. I may take a trip to the wrecking yard yet to see if I can find some smaller units out of another car to adapt them instead. That or mount them on the underside of the column. It will mean modding the cover over the bottom of the steering column if I do that though.



proff (fiero128@gmail.com) MSG #87, 04-25-2006 10:06 PM
      Mine wasn't done this way
This would make life alot easier


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #88, 04-25-2006 10:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by proff:

Mine wasn't done this way
This would make life alot easier


I too have had the ones with full conversions using the Volvo or Gemini rack but found they never drive just like a factory car. With this method they feel so much better on the road. One to consider in the future if you ever get another Fiero and it is LHD.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #89, 04-26-2006 12:42 AM
      Now it is time to bolt the chain drive unit and the modified column together, permanently.

Here is a picture of my inspection hatch that I need to make a cover for yet. The sleeve inside connects the steering column with the chain drive unit conector shaft.


The next 2 pictures shwo the completed unit ready to fit to the car. All painted up and ready to make mounting brackets for. As much as possible I am making this a reversable conversion too so if LHD t-top 88s actually get worth lots of money some day it could be easily converted back.




proff (fiero128@gmail.com) MSG #90, 04-26-2006 03:08 AM
      At what price would the chain driven unit be?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #91, 04-26-2006 03:24 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by proff:

At what price would the chain driven unit be?


$1100. Not cheap, but effective.



avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #92, 04-28-2006 02:45 PM
      Aus, I have a question about this conversion. How are you going to relocate the parking brake or are you?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #93, 04-28-2006 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by avengador1:

Aus, I have a question about this conversion. How are you going to relocate the parking brake or are you?


It has to be relocated. The plan is to move the handle to the right hand side and then basically flip the whole assemble over to mirror it. Oh, and solve any problems that may cause along the way. The interior trim has to be cut and plastic welded, and painted. A hole needs to be drilled for the cable to run through. The handle has to be bent to face away from the seat. A new boot has to be made. Probably some new bracketry along the way as well.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #94, 04-30-2006 06:37 AM
      Ok to contiune the conversion.

Next is a trial fit of the dash after the left hand side mounts for the column have been removed.
A perfect fit.


After liberating the steering column mount from the car I bolted up the mount and gauge pod to it, set the right height off the floor.


Slightly off track but even the gauge pod back is designed for the slope of the LHD dash. This has to change.


So here it is trimmed to suit a RHD application.


Here is the pod, steering colum mount and dash all roughed into the car. This is so I can locate the correct spot to mount the steering column mount and keep everything in line.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #95, 04-30-2006 06:43 AM
      Here is the mount all lined up read to make barwork to locate it permanently.


Now I have made up most of the barwork to hold the mount in place and to also hold the chain drive unit in place. I still have 2 bars to run from the cross bars up to the file wall to make it all more rigid.


Trial fitting the dash again. At this point I discovered the left side of the dash is hitting some of the brackets on the chain drive mounts. The guy that makes these should have made it 1.5" shorter on the left and 1.5" longer on the right and it would have been a beautifull fit. I will be telling him this as he has sold quite a few to a guy doing Fiero conversions. I am assuming the guy isnt using Fiero dashes. So it isn't a big problem, but just inconvenient. I also had to trim the bottom of the dash to fit.


More to come very soon.

Oh and WOOHOOO, the car now steers from the right hand side.


HellYes MSG #96, 04-30-2006 11:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:


$1100. Not cheap, but effective.


Looking at the parts used in the chain drive assembly, you could build this thing for less than $200. Something to look into for people on a budget. it's very simple really, and it seems to be all off the shelf components. Stuff you could get done with tractor parts.


82-T/A [At Work] MSG #97, 04-30-2006 11:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by jscott1:


I've never seen anything like that before in life. There isn't much demand for converting RHD cars to LHD in this country. The handfull of RHD cars that exist, (mostly JDM imports) just drive along with the RHD.

I'm really interested to see how you change the structure under the dash and mount up that chain drive. Are you working from an example or making this up as you go along?



Actually, those are really common in the US.

A large portion of Driver's Ed vehicles have these installed. That way, the teacher in the passenger seat can get the student out of danger if he / she needs to.



jscott1 MSG #98, 04-30-2006 12:36 PM
      I've still never seen one Maybe because I've never taken driver's ed

Aus aren't you a little worried that you have lost the collapsing feature of the column? In a collision that steering wheel could be lethal.


Custom88 MSG #99, 04-30-2006 01:02 PM
      The reason they collapse is when in a collision the front of the car crushes then pushes on the steering column. When the column crushes it does so at the bottom to keep this force from shoving it into you. It has nothing to do with your body hitting it. If the crush zone of the column has been effected then it will be pushed towards the passenger but it apears over a foot of column has been removed so this shouldn't be a problem. Great work AUZ. $1100 is quite steep after working with the chain drive how difficult would it be to duplicate?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #100, 04-30-2006 07:13 PM
      It would not take much to make one if you had the right machinery. It isn't something I could make at home. You would need a lathe for a start. Although even farming out the machine work it could probably be made cheaper. At this point I wasn't after cheaper though. Part of the $1100 price is these units are already engineer inspected and passed. That costs $$$.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #101, 05-03-2006 11:01 AM
      Well I put the last of the barwork in today to strengthen the steering mounts. It is totally rigid now.


After I finished that and painted the barwork it was off to the motorwreckers to find some pedals to use in the next stage of the conversion.
I got these out of a 1985 Holden Gemini. $30 is probably a bit steep but this yard is the only one you can just wander around in these days.



Next I get to work on the wiring (ugh) and the pedals. The pedals will be a crosstubed setup operating the master cylinder and accellerator on the left side of the car. Of course the passenger wont be able to operate them as well as the pedals will be cut off on the left side.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #102, 05-07-2006 07:55 AM
      Here is the pedals welded to the cross tunbe setups. This is the early stage of making the assemblies.
I had a local machine shop make some ends for the tubes with brass bushings in them for the pedals to rotate freely on the shafts.
The brake pedal has to be tig welded and x-rayed for integrity to pass the engineering requirements. Probably a good move being the brakes.


Tonight I decided to get back to the dash so I cut up the ducting system to what is needed to be used in the RHD conversion. The rest has been discarded as it will be in the way.


Here is a back view of the dash with the ducts sitting in place. I will make up new ducting to join everything together while avoiding items in the way. I will probably make enclosed boxes as well to use 6X9" speakers in the dash instead of the factory 4X10"s. A lot will depend on available space.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #103, 05-08-2006 06:45 AM
      Is anyone actually reading this?

ltlfrari (dave_ellis_@hotmail.com) MSG #104, 05-08-2006 07:16 AM
      Yup, me at least, keep it coming, it's really interesting.

Rodrv6 (rodrv6@comcast.net) MSG #105, 05-08-2006 07:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:

Is anyone actually reading this?


Me too! This is very interesting stuff



avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #106, 05-08-2006 08:41 AM
      I'm following it too. It makes for very interesting reading.

topcat (tconey01@att.net) MSG #107, 05-08-2006 08:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by avengador1:

I'm following it too. It makes for very interesting reading.


Ditto!


dguy MSG #108, 05-08-2006 10:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:

The pedals will be a crosstubed setup operating the master cylinder and accellerator on the left side of the car. Of course the passenger wont be able to operate them as well as the pedals will be cut off on the left side.


Spoilsport.

Enjoying the write-up over here, Aus. Looking forward to future installments!


ltlfrari (dave_ellis_@hotmail.com) MSG #109, 05-08-2006 12:56 PM
      Wouldn't it be simpler (and cheaper probably) to move to a country were they drive on the wrong side of the road (I did). good stuff though, keep it up.

MinnGreenGT (minngreengt@gmail.com) MSG #110, 05-08-2006 06:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:

Is anyone actually reading this?


Yes... still watching (patiently)


tomsfiero (enjoiglobeskate@aol.com) MSG #111, 05-08-2006 10:09 PM
      yeah, I've been following this thread for a while, since I found it a few months ago..sweet

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #112, 05-08-2006 10:29 PM
      Well I found out of my mechanical engineer I am dealign with the shaft I used for the brake is too thin. So back to the metal store today and back to the machine shop. Getting a whole new shaft and tube made up. D'oh.

Ultimate MSG #113, 05-09-2006 04:26 AM
      I'm reading this too. Very interesting and great thread!

Fiero_Freak (chevy_freak@sbcglobal.net) MSG #114, 05-14-2006 11:21 AM
      This is FREAKIN COOL. I'm definately adding a sticky to this one. Very interesting. I just read the whole thing for the first time. This is good to see for doing custom dash work, not just flipping the controls.



Boosted2003 (boosted2003@cfl.rr.com) MSG #115, 05-14-2006 08:06 PM
      Very cool thread.

Personally, I could have just moved all the brake, clutch, gas pedal setup to the right side. You would just have to take he a/c setup out and make firewall. Then get a RHD corvette rack. I am not sure which was is cheaper.

Keep us informed on everything though.


Wht&BluGT MSG #116, 05-14-2006 10:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Actually, those are really common in the US.

A large portion of Driver's Ed vehicles have these installed. That way, the teacher in the passenger seat can get the student out of danger if he / she needs to.




we just had the idiot brake pedal

very cool thread btw


agrabo85fiero MSG #117, 05-15-2006 04:05 PM
      looking good

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #118, 05-18-2006 08:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero_Freak:

This is FREAKIN COOL. I'm definately adding a sticky to this one. Very interesting. I just read the whole thing for the first time. This is good to see for doing custom dash work, not just flipping the controls.



I have owned 2 Fieros with (proper) RHD conversions and I was never impressed with how they drove. My last one was a chain drive also and I was sold on it from then. This way i salso cheaper to convert. And easier. The last thing I want to do is fabricate a new firewall.

I will be back on the job soon. Just spent a week moving house
Amazing how much crap you accumulate over the years.



Fiero_Freak (chevy_freak@sbcglobal.net) MSG #119, 05-18-2006 08:57 AM
      Well hurry up... we're all waiting!

J/K

I am picking up a car in a couple days with a custom dash that needs to be finished. Some of this stuff is still really helpful as well.

Thanks again for the documentation.


Cliff Pennock (admin@fieroforum.com) MSG #120, 06-05-2006 08:26 AM
      Any progress?

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #121, 06-05-2006 09:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

Any progress?

Beyond the pedals being ready to go in the car none for a while. Just sold the house, moved house, went overseas and now setting up the new garage. Might say i am a little busy.



agrabo85fiero MSG #122, 06-30-2006 08:09 PM
      any thing new?


Fiero_Freak (chevy_freak@sbcglobal.net) MSG #123, 07-19-2006 07:26 AM
      bumpity



Toddster (toddamelio@gmail.com) MSG #124, 07-20-2006 12:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:


$1100. Not cheap, but effective.


DAMN!, they have really gone up in price. I paid $450 for one back in 1989 when I was converting a car.


Baby_Blue MSG #125, 07-22-2006 10:35 AM
      Bump.

Just read this whole thing in one sitting, very interesting...can't wait to see the rest of the conversion.


twofatguys (brad@wheatoncomputer.com) MSG #126, 07-22-2006 04:24 PM
      Bump as well, this is very interesting

Brad


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #127, 07-22-2006 08:09 PM
      I have come to a bit of a standstill. The garage in the new rental is more storage than anything at present. Once I clean up a bit more I will get back into it. But winter in a cold garage isn't appealing right at the moment with so much going on.

[This message has been edited by AusFiero (edited 07-22-2006).]

jscott1 MSG #128, 07-22-2006 08:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:
... But winter in a cold garage isn't appealing at present with so much going on.


I wish we could send you some Texas heat. Right now I'm dreading going out to a hot garage.

I'm anxiously awaiting updates, this has to be the most extensive interior makeover I've ever seen. The only thing I can imagine more difficult would be a center drive.


agrabo85fiero MSG #129, 08-15-2006 01:31 PM
      Bump to the top

Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #130, 11-14-2006 05:23 AM
      I bought my fiero converted but with damage to suspension so far have fixed suspension and replaced it all at same time with one hicup i still cant have the driving experience till i fix the steering properly and get an allignment. Also have to fix clutch so not drivable but it could be as little as a fortnight away and it will be on the road driving again eagerly awaitng paint.
It is registered so i will start to drive it around finally without steering and alligement probs.
I have a question to put out to others. I have a RHD fiero with full peddle assembly moved.
I have a damaged tie rod and my steering and allignment is crap to the point where i cant drive it.
I purchased a new fiero tie rod to find the parts didnt suit.(thread was wrong on ends) After speaking to Ausfiero he said that the steering rack is most likely from a Holden Gemini or from a 240 series Volvo as he has heard that it works for a conversion. I have just purchased a new Volvo tie rod and will try that first when it arrives. But what year model geminis or other model racks could it be? Questions to other RHD owners.


fieroluv (bpickell2003@yahoo.com) MSG #131, 11-14-2006 10:09 AM
      I don't want to hijack the thread, however I have a question about RHD. I have never ridden in one to know. A friend of mine said he drove a RHD once and the pedals were backwards aka clutch on the right gas on the left, is this true? I would never be able to learn to drive a clutch if I had to hit the gas with my left foot. It took me long enough to figure it out with LHD.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #132, 11-14-2006 06:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fieroluv:

I don't want to hijack the thread, however I have a question about RHD. I have never ridden in one to know. A friend of mine said he drove a RHD once and the pedals were backwards aka clutch on the right gas on the left, is this true? I would never be able to learn to drive a clutch if I had to hit the gas with my left foot. It took me long enough to figure it out with LHD.


Nope, the pedal configuration is the same. Your friend musta been high or something


Deabionni (deabionni@gmail.com) MSG #133, 11-14-2006 08:45 PM
      Great thread, Aus.

Thanks for taking the time to post all of these pics. I can't wait to see the finished conversion.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #134, 11-14-2006 08:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Deabionni:

Great thread, Aus.

Thanks for taking the time to post all of these pics. I can't wait to see the finished conversion.


Hopefully I will have a week to spare soon to get stuck back into it. It has been sittiing for 6 months untouched. The downside of self employment is often time.


crazyhorse MSG #135, 11-14-2006 09:11 PM
      The work your doing looks grate keep up the good work .
hope you get time soon to finish.


Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #136, 11-21-2006 02:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:


Hopefully I will have a week to spare soon to get stuck back into it. It has been sittiing for 6 months untouched. The downside of self employment is often time.


To deposit a foreign check into the bank can be a days mission on its own. Hard to make money when only skilled staff are running around doing the chores and the chores take all day. The way business is set up in this country is you have to be able to expand 10 fold to grow. Hope you can still make time for the hobby cant wait to see it registered.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #137, 01-09-2007 06:35 AM
      Ok I have allocated myself some time wether I can afford that time or not. I have a guy with a Fiero based Ferrari 360 convertible replica who wants my Fiero engine and trans so I figured now I have a bit of financial incentive it is time to finish the RHD conversion and then go straight into the 3800sc swap.

So after a wasted day trying to remove a damn Fiero wheel locknut ( I will go into that in a different thread) I spent tonight out in the garage finishing the last part of the steering. I had to just notch the new steering shaft on the chain drive unit so the bolt on the factory uni-joint connector could attach to it. Too boring for pics there for 1 bolt.

Next I decided I best do the wiring conversion because a lot of it is in the way of finishing off the crossover shafts for the pedals. So I started with the wiring that connects to the left hand side of the gauge panel and the left hand side of the gauge pod switching.

The pics below will show the progress. Of course I numbered each wire as I went and tonight got 21 wires cut and spliced ready for moving to the other side of the car. I am out of soldering flux so that will be the next job, to solder all the new joins and to insulate all the connections. Then I will tape it all into a nice neat harness and move it over to the right hand side. I have to buy some heavier gauge wire for one of the wires though as it is the main power wire to the gauge pod and I didn't have any wire that gauge.

As you can see all the new wiring is black. I figured all the extension pieces will be inside the harness so you would see them anyway. No point buying 3000 rolls of different colour wires when it is hidden.







Black86gtFastback (fiero_fastback@cox.net) MSG #138, 01-10-2007 08:53 PM
      This guy knows what he's doing.
Want to hear more!!!


Hudini (hudini@tds.net) MSG #139, 01-10-2007 11:05 PM
      It is summertime down unda', time to have fun.

AP2k (argonplasma2000@gmail.com) MSG #140, 02-15-2007 07:39 PM
      Bumpity for frink.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #141, 02-15-2007 08:04 PM
      Still working on the spaghetti harnesses. Well they see, like spaghetti. More pics to come when that is done.

Jermz238 (halljer221@gmail.com) MSG #142, 02-15-2007 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by The Aura:

Looks to be a pretty sweet start.


Is that commmodore a clubsport?


? its a Monaro

EDIT: hah maybe i should've read before posting another correction -_-

[This message has been edited by Jermz238 (edited 02-15-2007).]

formula400 MSG #143, 02-16-2007 03:55 AM
      Too cool for word is all I can say.

Good luck


Newbfiero (bobby_0958@hotmail.com) MSG #144, 02-16-2007 10:10 AM
      Now you got me hook to this Great thread ..Nice work

jscott1 MSG #145, 02-22-2007 03:26 PM
      Very anxiously awaiting new photos...

I was really bored one day and researched the history of LHD versus RHD and was interested to discover keeping to the left and RHD is a custom that goes back thousands of years. In ancient times people kept to the left such that their sword arm...the right, was closest to the person coming from the opposite direction, (think jousting). It wasn't until the French Revolution that keeping to the right became popular, and it was Napoleon, (and later Hitler) that influenced the keep right (and LHD) on the rest of Europe and America. RHD versus LHD then followed political and economic alliances, and some countries have actually switched in modern times, (most notably the Netherlands). Okay I was really bored the day I had to know all of this...



Fierotaz (hotrodding@cox.net) MSG #146, 02-22-2007 04:50 PM
      Just came across this thread and read it all. Very interesting as I have often thought of converting to RHD just to be different. Keep up the good work! I can't wait to see the completion of this project.
Leroy


wiccantoy (cwandall@yahoo.com) MSG #147, 02-22-2007 06:38 PM
      should try to get a few of the parts together and try to sell a kit or 2



agrabo85fiero MSG #148, 02-26-2007 12:26 PM
      anything new

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #149, 02-27-2007 03:08 AM
      It will be a couple of more weeks until I get back into it now. I just returned from a stint in Thailand and of course there is weeks of work waiting for me now I am back.

Austrian Import (maximilian_ledworowski@csumb.edu) MSG #150, 04-02-2007 04:28 PM
      *bump*

Toddster (toddamelio@gmail.com) MSG #151, 05-28-2007 11:41 AM
      What's the latest Aus?

What are you doing with the dash? Covering it? Paint?

Also, why use a chain drive? With no engine in the way wouldn't a steering rack from a RHD car been easier? or isn't there a good donor?



AgaricX (skyline@infinissan.com) MSG #152, 06-08-2007 02:47 PM
      Any updates, Aus?

andy0 MSG #153, 06-25-2007 03:08 PM
      in the last few days i have read the 4 pages here several times. ive been trying to convert to rhd for ages. the chain drive unit, its a stroke of genius.
the only thing i'd be worried about is the brake pedal / tube adaptor, but if its been x-rayed, i guess it'll be ok.
my problem is, i cant find anyone who makes the chain drives. i tried searching for the american machines company in SA, they're not in the phone book or any web pages i could find. A.R. engineering used to make them, not anymore.
anyone know of someone who makes them? do you still have the contact details of american machines? are they still in business? please post some info here.
the only thing i found thats even close is the terrifying company below.
http://www.postalthings.com/right_hand.htm
i thought it was a joke when i first found them- lol. i particularily like the way the "steering wheel" sits in front of the airbag. fun in a crash.

aus, if you have any more pics, please post them. i cant wait to see how it ends up.

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andy0 MSG #154, 06-25-2007 03:31 PM
      the guys who convert hummers and corvettes to rhd have them(chain drives), but they want to do the work themselves, and charge $100,000 for the job. they won't tell me who makes their parts. if the price was reasonable, it would be an option.
its not.

have you opened up the chain drive to see whats inside? i was wondering if theres chain tensioners in it.

are you regretting doing the whole loom in black cable? i remember doing something similar, and spaghetti was an understatement.

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AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #155, 06-25-2007 08:15 PM
      No real progress on my part due to being out of action for a few months. Time to catch up on my business and finances at present.

The Fiero only needs the pedals done now and the emergency brake relocated. I have changed the plan on how to do the pedals now and no shafts will be used. It will be a hydraulic system from one side of the car to the other.

The chain drive units are an engineered piece that have had to meet strict Australian engineering requirements to pass registration. Not a cheap item at $1100AU but part of that cost is covering the original huge development costs to get them passed as legal.


Toddster (toddamelio@gmail.com) MSG #156, 05-13-2008 08:36 PM
      bump

And what happened to the pics!

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DeLorean00 (twincam18@aol.com) MSG #157, 05-13-2008 08:41 PM
      Yes we need the pics again!! And a update would be cool.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #158, 05-28-2008 08:59 AM
      Well I have only just started to get back to the Fiero.
Things have not been real good for me for the last 18 months or so. My health is a major issue at present so I haven't been doing much at all except battling to support my family and stay afloat. Not doing too good a job of either but hopefully things are starting to look up a little. That is the reason why I haven't been on here hardly at all in the last year.

Because of that the Fiero too a huge back seat. Almost considered selling it but it wouldn't have sold partially converted. I actually did spend a few hours on it on the weekend. The first time in a LONG time. The wiring is now finished and the steering is finished.

I am currently working on a relatively simple project on it next of relocating the neutral safety switch and the headlight dimmer unit. Well not exactly straight forward as they used to attach to the steering column and the bar work to operate them was simple. Now because of the shortened column I have to relocate them and reroute the bar work.

I didn't realise the pics had disappeared. Must have lost them when I changed web hosts. I will eventually get them all back up, with some new ones.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #159, 05-28-2008 09:44 AM
      Here are a couple of crappy pictures I just took with my phone. Hard to see but the wiring is now on the right and pic 2 is the fiero in its current home.



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joshh44 MSG #160, 05-28-2008 10:20 PM
      oh keep us updated!
i totally want to do this to my car. iv always wanted to have a different fiero and other cars on the street. i think it would be kinda rad.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #161, 06-07-2008 05:48 AM
      Ok I finally finished one of the more fiddly parts of the job. Because the steering column was shortened for the chain drive the headlight dimmer switch and the ignition (electronic) switch no longer had room to mount on the left side of the steering column.

Those familiar with where they are originally located will tell by the pics what has been done.
Basically I had to make new mounting points for them that wouldn't interfere with anything else.

The headlight dimmer was fairly basic. It involved trimming the original mount and rerouting the bar to operate it outside the steering column mount. I then welded 2 small bolts onto the steering column mount to give it somewhere to sit and now it works like a charm.

The ignition switch was a different dilema because of its size. Now instead of a simple bar operating it I had to move it to the other side of the column and make a new fairly solid mechanism to make it operate. The pictures tell the story pretty well.

Doesn't look pretty but it is all hidden anyway. I am definately getting better at welding small items now though.


















seegeer (seegeer@yahoo.com) MSG #162, 06-07-2008 04:01 PM
      great stuff aus,,,
this is what makes forum so awesome. i love the post, it has inspired me to do some work on mine,,,
thanks


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #163, 06-23-2008 08:25 AM
      Well I decided over the weekend to tackle the park brake relocation.
There was 2 ways I could do the cables.
1. Get custom made cables to mount in the original mounting points on the cradle.
2. Flip the original cables over, reroute them slightly and make custom brackets to hold them.
I chose option 2 because basically it cost nothing as apposed to getting big dollar custom cables.

The first few pics are what I have to work with once the original configuration is removed.









The original mounting point on the left which is now obselete.



First I clamped the park brake handle together so the bar I needed to bend didn't bend in the wrong spot.



The inner bar bent to its approximate new location so it faces the right way when mounted on the right side of the car.



The next couple of shots show where I cut the original park brake handle to allow me to bend it in the opposite direction.





And welded back together to face the right direction for the other side of the car.



Then I fabricated a bracket to weld to the floor on the other side of the car as it could no longer mount up against the side of the car. Not visible in that pic is the 10mm spacer I had to weld onto the back of the bracket on the rear bolt location to allow for the original park brakes unusual mountings shape. I also welded some flat nuts I made onto the original park brake handle so the bots going through the new mounting bracket have something to bolt into. No room there to hold a spanner later.



These 2 brackets are ones I made to mount the park brake cables to new locations on the cradle. I chose to run the cables on the front side (cat side) of the cradle as it was impossible to run the through the cradle without major mods and welding.



The right cable is now the left cable.



And the left cable is now the right cable.



An overhead shot showing the park brake handle mounted to the right side of the car. Of course I had to drill new holes through the firewall for the cable to exit the car.



A better overall view of the park brake inside the car on the right hand side.



Hard to fathom these shots if you are not familiar with the underside of your Fiero, but basically the different cable lengths means they are now mounted differently. On the cat side of the cradle as previously mentioned. I have the brackets bolted on for now but if the engineers say so I will have to weld them instead.









I stil have to make 2 new rubbers to seal the new holes in the firewal. Extend the park brake warning light cable to the opposite side of the car. Fill the old holes in the firewall where the cable used to come through. This I will just do with rubber seals. No need to weld it. All that shouldn't take more than an hour tomorrow.

When I get to the interior stage I will have to make a new boot for the park brake and cut both lower interior trim panels to get rid of the left side hole and indentation for where the park brake used to be, and add them to the right side.

When working under the car I found damage to the lower skirt and knew straight away someone had tried to jack the car in the past from the incorrect spot, so I dropped the cooling tube down to check for damage. Sure enough, there it is. As it is too expensive to import one into the country (because of size) I will remove the original at a later date and repair it by cutting out the offending section and welding in a new piece.



A pic of the Fiero as it now sits. Note the horrible finish on the front fascia thanks to the car bra that was on the car when I bought it. The fascia is a slightly different colour as well but I don't car too much about it as eventually I will get to a fair few body mods and I intend to resparay the whole car even though most of it is top notch. The wheels on the front are ones I bought for my 86 GT I used to have and never used them. So they are the wrong offset. As I cant get the same rims in the offset I need I spoke to a wheel place today who is going to mod my front ones (even though they are a 1 piece rim) to be a different offset. I will go into that at a later date. Yes the car looks like it is sitting high. Hasn't had a chance to settle after jacking it up to put the wheels on.

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DeLorean00 (twincam18@aol.com) MSG #164, 06-23-2008 09:30 PM
      Sooo Coooool!! Thanks for the pictures!!

Myke MSG #165, 06-24-2008 02:23 AM
      Aus,

Feel like I have been watching for 2 1/2 years!!!
Glad to see your back to this car again. Glad to see the move went ok, and you health is better. Last I heard (month or two ago) you were taking a break for health reasons (I basically knew this already).
Yes, I am still watching since I found this thread in early '06, and I am still interested.

Awaiting the next visual pleasure assisted by your kind narration.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #166, 06-24-2008 03:38 AM
      lol Myke. It has been 2 and a half years. I certainly spent a long time away from it.
All of the park brake is finished now so the next job I have to do is tidy up a couple of things I am not happy with. I removed the left side mount for the chain drive because it looked too flimsy. I am making one of them next.

After that it is time to move onto the most difficult job. Working out how to do the cross shafting on the brake pedal. There is very little room to work with.

Besides the pedals the remaining jobs for australian compliance are. The easier jobs.
1. Different headlights.
2. Australian complied seat belts.
3. Relocate the front parkers and indicators further out of the fascia so they are not so recessed.
4. Finish the new ductwork under the dash for the aircon and heater.


Myke MSG #167, 06-24-2008 11:54 AM
      Very cool, Aus. Is the diameter the issue with your space constraints (not enough room for the thickness of the tubing), or is it just mounting in general (IE: not clear path from brake to brake?)

What's wrong with the headlight? (other than the fact that they are only good for city driving with street lights....)

Myke


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #168, 07-17-2008 11:58 PM
      About to start removing the heater soon. It is in the way for working on the car. I didn't want to have to do it as my aircon is icy cold. But so be it.

AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #169, 07-18-2008 12:00 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Myke:

Very cool, Aus. Is the diameter the issue with your space constraints (not enough room for the thickness of the tubing), or is it just mounting in general (IE: not clear path from brake to brake?)

What's wrong with the headlight? (other than the fact that they are only good for city driving with street lights....)

Myke


More a space constraint with the tubing. It just fits.
Apparently RHD and LHD headlights are orientated different to shine on the right part of the road. Not noticable really but too much so for headlight adjustment to get it perfect.


Myke MSG #170, 07-21-2008 11:50 AM
      I was joking about the headlights.... RHD cars are pointed slightly offset, just the opposite way from what would be optimal for a LHD. I assume your going to do the headlight upgrade Cooter has done or similar?
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/091603.html

As far as the tight fit for the tubing, do you need to fab the area to make it a comfortable fit, or is it "just barely perfect" (I am curious as to how much can be cut back under there if you do it. I have a different project I am working on, and this would be helpful to know before I get under the dashboard.)

How much progress have you made lo these past few weeks?

Myke


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #171, 09-07-2008 10:08 AM
      Well I have the heater out now and pretty much everything in the front of the car. Tomorrow I start the final stage of mods. The pedals. Pics to come soon.



Toddster (toddamelio@gmail.com) MSG #172, 09-07-2008 11:19 AM
      Keep it coming Aus!

AquaHusky (david.t.cisneros@gmail.com) MSG #173, 09-07-2008 11:24 AM
      Man this looks like it's a lot of work! But the end result seems to be worth it.

Can't wait to see the end product.


Dash (aalasmar@uwm.edu) MSG #174, 02-21-2009 11:31 PM
      *looks around*

...bump...


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #175, 02-22-2009 02:06 AM
      Hehe,s till goign. Kicked up a deal with my neighbour. I am designing his house extension and he is going to design and build my custom brake components. I am getting his palns next week to mod so I can then move the Fiero over to his workshop.

pro street dave (prostreetfiero@sbcglobal.net) MSG #176, 02-22-2009 07:45 AM
      O.K. I need moor. I am hooked, need to know moor!

86GTFastback MSG #177, 04-27-2009 03:00 PM
      I want to see more too! Or anything, I can see any of the pictures, could you post some new ones?

Mr.Goodwrench (mroberts2m4@aol.com) MSG #178, 04-27-2009 09:05 PM
      I don't see any pictures! just little boxes with an X in it.

chrismclubm MSG #179, 09-04-2009 11:48 PM
      this project is a waste



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #180, 09-05-2009 08:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr.Goodwrench:

I don't see any pictures! just little boxes with an X in it.


Oops. Fixing that now.


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #181, 09-05-2009 08:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by chrismclubm:

this project is a waste



And why woudl that be? Because being self employed I dont have the free time others do to work on their vehicles and it should be finished by now? Because you think RHD shouldn't be done to a 88 GT? Because you are just a whiny little b!tch who likes to put people down for doing stuff you cant? So what would you do, leave the car Left hand Drive and never be able to drive it? You sir sound like a total wanker. Part of the reason I dont come in here much anymore. It used to be full of pretty cool people years ago. It has been overtaken by too many idiots. Sorry to all the decent people around here but I am sure you guys have noticed the same.


As an update the brake part of the conversion is almost done and I will have more pics when we get it installed. Did a deal with my neighbour. I did some house plans for him and he is doing the brake part of the conversion for me Once we have that bit done it is time to start reassembling it. The fun part. Then hope it passes engineering compliance. If not they will tell us what we have to change.


chrismclubm MSG #182, 09-05-2009 10:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero:

And why woudl that be? Because being self employed I dont have the free time others do to work on their vehicles and it should be finished by now? Because you think RHD shouldn't be done to a 88 GT? Because you are just a whiny little b!tch who likes to put people down for doing stuff you cant? So what would you do, leave the car Left hand Drive and never be able to drive it? You sir sound like a total wanker. Part of the reason I dont come in here much anymore. It used to be full of pretty cool people years ago. It has been overtaken by too many idiots. Sorry to all the decent people around here but I am sure you guys have noticed the same.


Hey AusFiero, I've always been a fan of the products you've made in the past, but my point is that converting a fiero to right-hand drive is a waste of money and time. Everything in a fiero is situated to suit a steering wheel on the left-hand side. I don't see anyway way you could reproduce the dash and everything else to work in the right-side, not to mention the brake booster, and all that other jazz. I just don't believe you thought this through. Moreover, you stated
 
quote
Originally posted by AusFiero: Part of the reason I dont come in here much anymore.
That statement is clearly a lie because I posted this just yesterday and you responded within 24 hours, which indicates that you still do come to this forum and read what we have to say - and you should because it is good advice. This transition leads me to the advice I will give you right now, sell the vehicle on EBAY to someone who will put the left-hand drive fiero to good use. Let's not start a war.



JCUOIT MSG #183, 09-05-2009 11:13 PM
      Heck of a great job you're doing, keep up the great work.



AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #184, 09-06-2009 12:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by chrismclubm:


Hey AusFiero, I've always been a fan of the products you've made in the past, but my point is that converting a fiero to right-hand drive is a waste of money and time. Everything in a fiero is situated to suit a steering wheel on the left-hand side. I don't see anyway way you could reproduce the dash and everything else to work in the right-side, not to mention the brake booster, and all that other jazz. I just don't believe you thought this through. Moreover, you stated [QUOTE]Originally posted by AusFiero: Part of the reason I dont come in here much anymore.
That statement is clearly a lie because I posted this just yesterday and you responded within 24 hours, which indicates that you still do come to this forum and read what we have to say - and you should because it is good advice. This transition leads me to the advice I will give you right now, sell the vehicle on EBAY to someone who will put the left-hand drive fiero to good use. Let's not start a war.

[/QUOTE]

Well Left hand drive vehicles cannot be driven in my state unless they are 30 years old and considered a classic. Stupid law but that is the way it is. And I have thought it ut very well. As have the other 120 to 150 RHD Fiero conversions over here.



Rufus88 (chris.arey@inbox.com) MSG #185, 09-06-2009 01:23 AM
      Awsome work man!

Carcenomy MSG #186, 09-08-2009 12:11 AM
      An interesting take on the RHD conversion there AusFiero. When I saw the topic I was half expecting to see the commoner's method - carving half the firewall out and using a Hillman Imp steering rack

I'll keep an eye on this, definitely a different approach. I must say though, from discussions with the certifiers over here on the other side of the ditch, you can't get away with the chain drive arrangements here. I can't recall the exact reason why not, but they don't like it one bit!

I should get some snaps of my one's conversion. It's pretty bloody hokey on it though, my old '84's conversion was far tidier... but that's a story for another day


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #187, 09-08-2009 01:16 AM
      I have had convetional conversion and chain drive Fieros. I went the chain drive this time because they drive better than a conventional conversion. They feel factory standard.

Strange NZ wont allow them as the Ford Taurus's from 1998 are cross shafted conversions by Ford. It is a very save system and doesn't upset the factory suspension and steering geomatry.

Would be intersted in seeing your NZ Fiero.


Carcenomy MSG #188, 09-12-2009 04:05 AM
      I'll get some shots once I get the cooling system dramas solved... had the thermostat housing burst open and dump all the coolant on the way home last night. Haven't driven a stock Fiero yet for comparison, but the '87 I've got now definitely doesn't handle as neatly as the old '84 I had with the Hillman rack in it, seems to shuffle the inside wheel at hard lock. It's some faceless japanese looking rack, too much throw and the rack ends look too long for my liking...

Any progress on yours?


AusFiero (jim@jadeweb.com.au) MSG #189, 09-12-2009 07:04 PM
      We have the brake mechanism working outside the car on bench testing. Just prettying it up and making it adjustable now.
2 popular racks used in the conversion are Holden Gemini and Volvo 244.
That is another reason I like the cross shafting method. The car is still all GM original parts besides the chain drive. Easier to know what spares are needed in the future.


kyunderdawg MSG #190, 09-13-2009 01:35 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by: chrismclubm
.....but my point is that converting a fiero to right-hand drive is a waste of money and time. Everything in a fiero is situated to suit a steering wheel on the left-hand side. I don't see anyway way you could reproduce the dash and everything else to work in the right-side, not to mention the brake booster, and all that other jazz. I just don't believe you thought this through.


How could you say that? Your basically saying it's a wasted of time for a person to work or customize their car. Did you happen to notice the extensive modifications that have been done already? He's definitely got the skills to do the job. Even if it wasn't a law there, it would be one of those "cool" factors.

Aus,

It would be cool to have a RH drive, but I couldn't get used to driving on the wrong side of the road like you Ausies. J/K


Carcenomy MSG #191, 09-13-2009 02:10 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by chrismclubm:
.....but my point is that converting a fiero to right-hand drive is a waste of money and time. Everything in a fiero is situated to suit a steering wheel on the left-hand side. I don't see anyway way you could reproduce the dash and everything else to work in the right-side, not to mention the brake booster, and all that other jazz. I just don't believe you thought this through.

Interesting. How is it difficult to make things like the brake booster work in a RHD environment? How is it a waste of time when we drive on the left hand side of the road, and therefore sitting on the left side of the car gives minimal to no view around cars ahead making overtaking nearly impossible and removing from the overall driving experience? The RHD conversion is possibly the most logical thing you could do over here or in Aussie/England/etc. Especially since by law it must be done.

As for the controls... why would you change them? Left-side stalk and shifter on left side keeps your right hand free to steer the car and/or have a cigarette or a beverage while driving without comprimising the ability to control the car.

But to each their own. I guess AusFiero thinks similarly to me. I'd rather fancy an '88GT in RHD myself if I could find one around here!


Logan (dyno1385@aol.com) MSG #192, 02-01-2010 09:18 PM
      Fantastic Conversion!! Big Help if i ever move away from The States!!


fourpoint9 (stevenmsimpson@comcast.net) MSG #193, 02-02-2010 02:13 AM
      Update Aus ? or photos of other RHD Fieros ?

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burntwood (burntwood@gmail.com) MSG #194, 02-23-2010 08:06 AM
      I just came across this thread... Aus, this is an awesome build!
Hope time/work is allowing you to continue!

Wood



timcha (jtchambers37@yahoo.com) MSG #195, 02-23-2010 11:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by chrismclubm:

That statement is clearly a lie because I posted this just yesterday and you responded within 24 hours, which indicates that you still do come to this forum and read what we have to say - and you should because it is good advice. This transition leads me to the advice I will give you right now, sell the vehicle on EBAY to someone who will put the left-hand drive fiero to good use. Let's not start a war.




YES YES! Please follow his advice.........at least the part about selling the car.....(to me) lol. I'm sure there are several of us who would LOVE to have it! Aside from that, pretty much everything Chris said is crap. And Chris, if you didn't want a war, why the h*ll did you fire the first shot? Personally, I pretty much think Aus is a blanking genious!

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fieroluke (o.scholz@gmx.net) MSG #196, 09-11-2011 04:27 AM
      Any updates? *bump*

Carcenomy MSG #197, 09-11-2011 04:58 AM
      Aus! Where's the progress? And as promised, here's a pic of the conversion in my '87. I'd get you some shots of the work on the front end but this particular conversion is god awful and not worth showing! The interior work is pretty ugly too compared with what you've done so far, so keep up the good work!

This images is larger than 153600 bytes. Click to view.

The '86 is still LHD, but it's very unnatural to drive on local roads, and I'm looking at converting it myself down the track.



fieroluke (o.scholz@gmx.net) MSG #198, 09-11-2011 08:28 AM
      Nice clean interior!

Carcenomy MSG #199, 09-11-2011 08:50 AM
      Hah, don't say that too loudly, it's badly in need of a clean at the moment! I'll get some better pics in a few weeks, just bought a GT wheel for the old girl from Paul Vargyas so when it arrives I'll get some good shots detailing the RHD swap.



twofatguys (brad@wheatoncomputer.com) MSG #200, 12-11-2011 11:45 AM
      12-16-2005

WOW, it's almost this threads birthday.

6 years old in just a few days.

Brad


CARBONETICS_F1 (carbonetics_creations@aol.com) MSG #201, 12-20-2011 03:28 AM
      not many new threads nowadays but, it was cool to watch

James_GT (jhorley@gmail.com) MSG #202, 12-20-2011 10:49 PM
      Has anyone heard from Aus lately? I haven't seen him around here on the forum for quite a while. Hope he manages to complete this conversion someday.

The quality of the RHD conversions varies a lot depending on who did them. Some look spot on with hardly any noticeable differences, others are a little more obvious.

@Carcenomy

I just noticed in the photo of your dash that they actually switched the shift indicator over to the right hand side. That's pretty rare. Most conversions I have seen don't bother with that, although it's not that inconvenient having it on the other side.



Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #203, 01-19-2012 02:55 AM
      I see concerns about moving the brake booster those querying this are forgetting that it is just a line full of fluid. You could build a loop the loop in the lines and wont effect the performance as long as the booster can compress the fluid. My car doesn't look converted it looks like what a factory RHD would look like there are no giveaways to say otherwise.
This thread is a pretty good read for those considering a conversion. Almost getting old enough to wait for a LHD to pass rego think i will get another one that day.



Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #204, 02-28-2012 02:40 AM
      I have bought a s10 booster thanks to sardonyx247 so will attempt to install it i may need to do some bodywork to fit it but will make it fit.

banderson (bradley16@netins.net) MSG #205, 04-11-2012 01:46 PM
      Any News? I would love to read more!



northeastfiero (carlgill@hotmail.com) MSG #206, 04-12-2012 07:39 PM
      You could also do it the way I did still got a few bits to finish off.