A Real Mera in Paradise
Topic started by: Fiero-in-Paradise, Date: 08-18-2009 04:06 AM
Original thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/077195.html


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #1, 08-18-2009 04:06 AM
      It was a really nice weekend here, so I had my son take some pictures of my Mera. These pics were taken at Maunalua Bay in East Oahu.

If you look closely, you won't see any Ferrari badging. Took them all off and replaced them with other things (see below). Not real sure, but I may be one of the very few that has a Mera, that actually shows as a Mera. I like it much better now, talking with folks about the history of the Mera, and not having to explain "if its so collectible, why is badged out like a Ferrari?"











Went from this:



To this: (I also took apart the reverse lights and painted the inside with a chrome/silver paint. Looks 100% better.)



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



And from this:



To this:



Mera #8044, 1988, 28K miles.

Thanks for looking!
Tom

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VelociJuris MSG #2, 08-18-2009 05:54 AM
      Beautiful car. It looks great. Nice close up photos. Congrats on a fine vehicle.

PS Do you ever feel like Magnum PI running around the island in that?


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #3, 08-18-2009 09:33 AM
      Is that an original Mera nose badge or one of Rodney's duplicate decals? I am also interested in details related to the center caps on the Chromadora wheels.

Nelson


blakeinspace (blakeinspace@yahoo.com) MSG #4, 08-18-2009 10:31 AM
      mad props and a (+) for taking the steps to properly badge the MERA.

thanks for posting the photos!


mid engine monsters (midenginemonsters@live.com) MSG #5, 08-18-2009 11:48 AM
      looks very good ,thanks for the pics

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #6, 08-18-2009 12:46 PM
      Mahalo everyone (that's Hawaiiian for "thanks").

Yep, that is an original nose badge, the flexible vinyl material. When I first bought the car, I did a thorough cleaning, and I found it at the very bottom of the center console box. Before I put it on, however, I worked with a local gal who runs a trophy shop, and she used it to do the artwork to replicate the logo. Now that she has it in her data base, she can make plates (i.e., laser engrave) to whatever size I want, and whatever material. That is how she made the small little brass plates that are on the door handle tabs.

The seat belt covers are the ones advertised on e-bay for like $6-7.00. I took them down to a local shop to have the "MERA #132" embroidered above and below the "PONTIAC."

The rear license place bracket is awesome. Again, bought it on E-bay, a little pricey, but it is made from solid brass, triple chromed, and it really looks good with this engraved Pontiac symbols and word.

As for the center caps for the wheels, these are again right off of e-bay, I think from a guy called "CenterCaps guy." He must have a bajillion sets of center caps. Anyways, it took me a while to find those, in almost brand new condition, and also the right size, as they come in several sizes. I believe those are the biggest ones from older Pontiacs. I used the existing snap rings inside the rims that held the Ferrari center caps to also hold the Pontiac center caps from falling out.

Thanks for looking!
Tom




Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #7, 08-18-2009 02:40 PM
      I forgot to add these pics...they have been in other threads as well, but thought I'd keep in all in this one.

These items were purchased from Tom (FieroNews), who does fabulous work, BTW.

Spare tire cover:



Custom-made manual/document pouch/holder:



I gotta run off to work now, but I'll be adding some add'l pics of small mods I've done to "modernize" the car somewhat, but still keep it looking like a real Mera.

Thanks for looking!
Tom


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #8, 08-18-2009 04:22 PM
      Tom,

My original nose badge was on hard plastic like material and about 3/16 of an inch thick. I know that Rodney has some of the flat vinyl nose badge reproductions available (I have a couple) and wonder if yours is also a reproduction.

Nelson


chrismclubm MSG #9, 08-18-2009 07:01 PM
      what a beautiful car



CaliforniaSpeeder9 (midengine4life@gmail.com) MSG #10, 08-19-2009 01:14 AM
      Great job on the re-badging. Excellent photos but theyre so small! Anywhere I can find large copies?

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #11, 08-19-2009 03:48 AM
      Thanks for the nice compliments!

Nelson,

LOL...well now, I'm not really sure if that's a real Mera badge or not! It is thick, but more like 1/16" than 3/16". Its made of some vinyl/rubber material, with what appears to be a thick clear coating/resin. When I bought the car, there was a bunch of old glue near the door handle tab, and when I found the badge, it looked like it had fallen off of that area. I cleaned it up, and since it was the exact right size, I put it in the same indentation that I pulled off the Ferrari nose badge. Its definitely not the flat Mera stickers that Rodney sells, if that's what you're referring to.

CA Speeder9: I e-mailed you the larger, hi-res pics taken with my son's 12 megapixel Nikon.

Here's one more before-and-after set.

Before: Plain license plate bracket and really awful-looking reverse lights:



After: Really nice, heavyweight Pontiac license plate bracket I bought off e-bay. Reverse lights look MUCH better after painting the insides.



Thanks!
Tom


LZeitgeist (lzeitgeist@aol.com) MSG #12, 08-19-2009 12:02 PM
      WOW!!

That is sharp!!

Nicely done...



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #13, 08-19-2009 12:07 PM
      Tom,

If I can ever relocate my original nose badge, I will take a picture of it and e-mail it to you. Right now I am going off memory since it disappeared during my last move. Yours may be original after all.

Nelson

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iced_theater (whitehed@fascination.com) MSG #14, 08-19-2009 12:28 PM
      That is a good looking car, very clean.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #15, 08-19-2009 12:33 PM
      Thanks for the compliments!

Nelson, let me know if/when you find that original badge! LOL...it would be nice to know whether or not I have at least ONE original badge for the car.

Tom


CaliforniaSpeeder9 (midengine4life@gmail.com) MSG #16, 08-20-2009 01:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

CA Speeder9: I e-mailed you the larger, hi-res pics taken with my son's 12 megapixel Nikon.



Hmmm I havnt received any e-mails


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #17, 08-20-2009 02:17 AM
      Sorry, I think I messed up by sending them all in one e-mail! I just re-sent in separate e-mails since each pic is 6-7 megs.

Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #18, 08-22-2009 11:23 AM
      These are the original 88 Mera emblems. The 87's generally were silver with black lettering etc. Some 87's may have had the gold type I have heard. The 87 nose badges had Corporate Concepts below the MERA word.

Although I did not take any pictures there were silver plastic covers for the large opening in the Cromadora rims. I have 2 sets. I'm sure these are now extremely hard to find. They had no emblems on them. To see the small center Mera emblems you had to take the large plastic covers off.



Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #19, 08-22-2009 11:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:







These are the original Mera tailpipes. You do not have the correct tail pipes on your Mera.

I do make reproductions of these tail pipes.




Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #20, 08-22-2009 11:36 AM
     

This picture shows an 88 Mera with the Cromadoras and the large plastic center cap.

Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera



madcurl (madcurl@fiero-performance.com) MSG #21, 08-22-2009 12:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

If you look closely, you won't see any Ferrari badging. Not real sure, but I may be one of the very few that has a Mera, that actually shows as a Mera. I like it much better now, talking with folks about the history of the Mera, and not having to explain "if its so collectible, why is badged out like a Ferrari?"
Tom



Perhaps the best quote of the year.



DeLorean00 (twincam18@aol.com) MSG #22, 08-22-2009 02:25 PM
      Heres some photos of my friends Mera with large center caps.




Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #23, 08-22-2009 02:35 PM
      Thanks for that info Rodney! Yep, those tailpipes are defintely on my to-buy/do list. I think I e-mailed you about them before Is there an easy way of replacing them? Since they go THROUGH an oval opening, it looks like I'll have to drill out all rivets on the bottom, remove that entire lower section, and then I can replace the pipes??

The one thing that has always bugged me is that the PO removed the grill under the bumper, so its completely open to the AC condenser. Any ideas on a replacement?

And some day, I'll replace those manual Vitaloni "Bravo" mirrors to the original, powered Vitaloni mirrors. But...those things are sitting on the same shelf with the original grill and the Holy Grail. The last set of those Vitaloni powered mirrors I saw on e-bay was going for like $950.00!...and someone actually bought them! Unreal!!

I knew the "2.8V6" badge was original, and they are still available brand new on e-bay. I was tempted to get it, but I liked the one I got. It was brand new, and I shot it with about 4-5 coats of gloss clear before installing it. That should hopefully protect the chrome plating from peeling off for a while.

I know I'll never get this car to it's original condition off the Corporate Concept's line. But that's okay, the main intent of this project was to get rid of ALL the Ferrari badges so that when people come up to talk to me, I can "talk story" on the Pontiac Mera background, which has a rather interesting history. Unfortunately to most people, the Ferrari badging just makes it look like any other kitcar.

Thanks!
Tom


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #24, 08-22-2009 02:39 PM
      Rodney...are those Chromodora center covers for sale? Can you pm or e-mail me a price, if so?
Thanks.
Tom


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #25, 08-22-2009 03:18 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Thanks for that info Rodney! Yep, those tailpipes are defintely on my to-buy/do list. I think I e-mailed you about them before Is there an easy way of replacing them? Since they go THROUGH an oval opening, it looks like I'll have to drill out all rivets on the bottom, remove that entire lower section, and then I can replace the pipes??

Tom


They go in without taking any panels off. The rear clip is all one piece anyways.



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #26, 08-22-2009 03:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:


The one thing that has always bugged me is that the PO removed the grill under the bumper, so its completely open to the AC condenser. Any ideas on a replacement?

Tom


I've sold many of my 308 Ferrari replica front bumpers. Maybe one day you can find someone that replaced his original front bumper/grill and they would sell you their old original Mera grill.



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #27, 08-22-2009 03:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:


And some day, I'll replace those manual Vitaloni "Bravo" mirrors to the original, powered Vitaloni mirrors. But...those things are sitting on the same shelf with the original grill and the Holy Grail. The last set of those Vitaloni powered mirrors I saw on e-bay was going for like $950.00!...and someone actually bought them! Unreal!!

Tom


They were used on other cars. Try to find a good used pair of manual Vitaloni's. They made smaller ones that look almost the same. Somewhere there are reproductions of those. I have seen them on ebay. Some company copied them and made reproductions.



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #28, 08-22-2009 03:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Rodney...are those Chromodora center covers for sale? Can you pm or e-mail me a price, if so?
Thanks.
Tom



Sorry. Not for sale.



Rodney
1988 Mera


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #29, 08-22-2009 10:04 PM
      I found a set of powered Vitaloni mirrors (with harness and switch) from a Lambo. However they were still $1000 used. Try a Ferrari 430 mirror since they look very similar.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


They were used on other cars. Try to find a good used pair of manual Vitaloni's. They made smaller ones that look almost the same. Somewhere there are reproductions of those. I have seen them on ebay. Some company copied them and made reproductions.






batousai666 MSG #30, 09-04-2009 12:41 PM
      I kinda like this pontiac emblem on my MERA. say rodney got any more hood repros left could need one or two of them. also Mr. Paradise any chance of gettin more of the door emblems made ? Them's nice!! finally learned how to post pics. get ya sum!!



batousai666 MSG #31, 09-04-2009 12:45 PM
      got rid of the Fiero sticker. lookin for 2.8 v6 in junk yards. also lookin for MountAineER or RAMbleR for rear decklid. the quest is on.


batousai666 MSG #32, 09-04-2009 12:48 PM
      got this on the front.


batousai666 MSG #33, 09-04-2009 12:52 PM
      also took the black mera letters off. trying for something better that hobby lobby foam stick ons.
these rims look pretty good, no?? center lines with hella aluminum spacers.


VelociJuris MSG #34, 09-04-2009 02:20 PM
      batousai666
What model of centerline rims are those? Did they come with the correct hole spacing or is the conversion in the spacer?


batousai666 MSG #35, 09-04-2009 05:04 PM
      say.., you know I do not know the model # or name. the off set is in the spacers. nice hunk of metal. just learned how to do the pic. thing today...
here's one


batousai666 MSG #36, 09-04-2009 05:06 PM
      another maybe you may know...closer up


Rick 88 MSG #37, 09-04-2009 08:24 PM
      Not trying to hijack the thread, but what is the market value for a 90k 88 Mera 5-speed in very good condition? I am looking for a range low to high of what they are bringing. TIA

batousai666 MSG #38, 09-05-2009 08:34 AM
      picked up mine for $8840 on ebay.
1987 SE 2.8 V6 auto
Center Line rims aluminum 15" ft. 16" rt.
back up camera/dvd/usb flash player 180 watts
68000+ miles
stock interior
sun roof
with Ferrari badges (HA-HA)
starts instantly
cool lookin' aluminum grill over engine

post a picture or two. lets see it.

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Rick 88 MSG #39, 09-05-2009 08:53 AM
      I am considering purchasing one, that is why I was asking for what they are currently selling for. Anyone else purchase one recently? Thanks for the info.

VelociJuris MSG #40, 09-05-2009 11:34 AM
      Mot a MERA but i picked up a 308 replica that some one started to make look like a 288 for about $4K, I would love to stretch it the 3 inches and finish the job.

http://www.flickr.com/photo...s/72157621828774556/ is the album. I still can not post the pictures even using the

[img] http://www.flickr.com/photo...t-72157621828774556/ [\img]
Oh yeah...
86 se no power potions
57,000 miles
leaky sunroof, rear deck, lid doors
ugly red interior
automatic trans
American racing wheels with spacer in the back redrilled in front (ugly).

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #41, 09-05-2009 11:59 AM
      I have seen Meras priced from $7k to $21K. However, this is highly dependent on the vehicle condition and/or installed engine. Most of the "project" Meras that I have acquired had an initial cost of around $7k to $8K. The other one was significantly more.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

Not trying to hijack the thread, but what is the market value for a 90k 88 Mera 5-speed in very good condition? I am looking for a range low to high of what they are bringing. TIA




reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #42, 09-05-2009 04:50 PM
      About 6 months ago there was a perfect T-top in Saint Louis with about 4k miles for $16,900. I, once again, was a day late!

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #43, 09-05-2009 06:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I have seen Meras priced from $7k to $21K. However, this is highly dependent on the vehicle condition and/or installed engine. Most of the "project" Meras that I have acquired had an initial cost of around $7k to $8K. The other one was significantly more.



Agree. Also, in today's economy, Mera prices will be on the lower side of the scale. Depends on how "motivated" the seller is.


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #44, 09-05-2009 06:45 PM
      Here's another mod I did a while back, and actually, this can be done with any Fiero. This is to keep the trunk light off when the back lid is up for a period of time.

VERY carefully, I drilled a small hole in the trunk bracket. That's on the bracket, not that small indentation on the latch thingy itself ("latch" is probably not the right word, its that little "finger" that sticks out to activate/deactivate the light). To determine the right location, I pushed the "finger" into the bracket as I was drilling. The idea is to drill the hole through the bracket, but UNDER the "finger" when its pushed in.



After drilling, I had to use a little sandpaper in-between the bracket so the "finger" would not hang up.

So now, when I want the back lid open, I push the "finger" up with my thumb, like this:



And insert my homemade pin (made from a coat hanger) into the hole I drilled:



You can see from this angle how the pin keeps the "finger" up, thus de-activating the trunk light switch.

If you step away, it looks like this:



Easy and cheap mod...best kind!

Tom

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #45, 09-05-2009 11:02 PM
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Nose badge on Mera #8046

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Rear panel badge


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #46, 09-05-2009 11:46 PM
      reholmes, that's some interesting badges. Wonder if Rodney can provide some info on those.

Thanks for posting your Mera #. That adds a bit more to the history of my own Mera, #8044. I knew that there was another Mera shipped to Hawaii, #8045. It was described in this thread:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-1-067236.html

I'm pretty #8044 (mine) and #8045 were shipped together at the same time to Hawaii, but unfortunately, #8045 led a neglected life. Last I heard, #8045 was sold and was going to be restored by a father-son team. Since you have #8046, odds are that was the last one sent to Hawaii. I know that #8042 is somewhere on the mainland, so I just need to track down #8043 that MAY confirm if I have the only operating Mera in Hawaii.


batousai666 MSG #47, 09-06-2009 09:29 AM
      Rodney has said that the early Mera nose badges had Corporate Concepts at the bottom. I GOTTA HAVE THESE!! in SILVER!! thems purtty. me likey. Can i use this picture for a reproduction??

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #48, 09-06-2009 11:42 AM
      Let me get you some better pics--those were taken hurriedly in a dark garage. I won't promise them today, but soon--send me a PM and I'll get back to you.

Rodney should know about this car, it was last owned, briefly, by Paul V. Before that it was strictly West Coast--two previous owners. I have contacted the most recent owner and he is sending more info on the car. I haven't talked to Rodney about registering it, but will soon.

It's really a very nice car, solid roof, tan interior, stock engine, 66k miles, built from a Formula (I think). I will post pics along the way. This one was taken by Paul.



Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #49, 09-06-2009 12:04 PM
      This is turning into a nice thread on Meras! Let's see some more!

Please use the PIP function to post your Mera pictures. If you don't, over time, those pictures will no longer be available.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #50, 09-06-2009 12:10 PM
      Will do, but you'll have to explain the procedure--either here or PM.

Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #51, 09-06-2009 12:15 PM
      Is there a thread which details the history of the Mera?

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #52, 09-06-2009 12:31 PM
      Amida,

Not sure on a thread, but Rodney's site provides historical background, pics, etc.

http://www.fiero.net/mera/article.html

reholmes,

At the bottom of the page, click on the Pennocks Image Poster that will load the program and create an icon on your computer. Transfer your pics from your camera to your computer as you normally would do. When you're creating a PFF entry, minimize the screen, and click on the PIP icon. You'll be able to browse your hard drive and select the photo you want to upload. Go back to your PFF entry, hit Control-V, and it will insert your photo. If you want to insert more photos, repeat process. Pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #53, 09-06-2009 12:58 PM
      Tom,

Thanks for your help.

Interestingly, I tried to buy your car six months ago when it was on Paradise Cruisers--never could get hold of you. I'm assuming you are black02-z28 and decided not to sell.

Dick


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #54, 09-06-2009 01:16 PM
      I have never seen a MERA rear panel badge like the one pictured. Can you supply any additional information on it?

Nelson


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #55, 09-06-2009 01:51 PM
      Well, I hadn't either--it came with the car. Maybe we'll know more when the previous owner gets back to me. Rodney, or Paul V might know.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #56, 09-06-2009 02:14 PM
      Dick,

Nope, wasn't me. I'd be interested to see the posting if you can still provide the link. I rarely surf on the P/C site...only go on it to check out the local shows' dates/times.

I did have the Mera advertised on the local Craigslist, the Kitcar Forum, and on some bulletin boards on Hickam AFB (where I work). I also had it advertised here on PFF.

BTW, I sent you a PM with some add'l tips on posting pics.

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #57, 09-07-2009 01:09 PM
      Tom,

Link to Paradise Cruisers post: http://www.paradisecruisers...ex.php?topic=13086.0

My domain host had a server crash, please resend PIP notes.

Dick



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #58, 09-07-2009 02:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I have never seen a MERA rear panel badge like the one pictured. Can you supply any additional information on it?

Nelson


A Mera owner had them made up many years ago. He sent me one. I still have it somewhere.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #59, 09-07-2009 10:47 PM
      Dick,

Thanks for that link! Yep...that was my ad on the local Craigslist, looks like the guy copied it right into the PC blog.

The other guy who made some comments..."Rob," actually made e-mail contact with me a couple of times, to ask some general questions about the door stickers and such, and was the person that told me about the car being sold off to someone else who had some plans to restore, or do a VIN switch.

I'll have to join the PC site ASAP and try to find #8045, or at least the remnants of it. As rusted out as it was, that gem was already destined for the crusher once, I hope its still around. I'd buy it just to have the spare panels, if nothing else, or rebuild it on a different chassis.

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #60, 09-14-2009 04:05 PM
     

Interior. Actually the steering wheel has been swapped out. It's now the traditional three spoke. Which brings up a question: Is there a Mera badge for the center cap?

Wish my other cars' interiors were this color!

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #61, 09-14-2009 04:45 PM
      Do you mean the horn buttom or the wheel centercap when you are writing about a MERA emblem?

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:



Interior. Actually the steering wheel has been swapped out. It's now the traditional three spoke. Which brings up a question: Is there a Mera badge for the center cap?

Wish my other cars' interiors were this color!





reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #62, 09-15-2009 12:25 AM
      The horn button.

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #63, 09-15-2009 11:03 AM
      I will try to e-mail you a photo sometime today of my 87 Mera horn button. However, I do not know if this was stock or an aftermarket addition. Feel free to resize and post the photo if you want to do so.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

The horn button.




Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #64, 09-15-2009 12:32 PM
      Yes, please post! I'd like to see what that looks like as well.

I've been toying with the idea of using the round wheel center MERA labels and embedding it somehow into my Momo horn button. Or...going back to the original 3-spoke wheel.


Dennis LaGrua (dlagrua@comcast.net) MSG #65, 09-15-2009 01:42 PM
      I like the idea of Mera badges on a Mera body. It looks authentic that way. Why put Ferrari badges on it if it isn't a Ferrari? If a Ferrari dealer spots this the companys lawyers will be hot on your tail and many car folks know what a real Ferrrari looks like anyway so who are we fooling? .



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #66, 09-15-2009 11:41 PM
      Horn button photos were just e-mailed to reholmes and he may post them.

Nelson


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #67, 09-17-2009 04:20 PM
     

OBTW, I've had no luck with PIP.

I agree with Dennis, but I don't have any problem with Ferrari badges on Meras. What does tickle me are comments from Ferrari owners that this is just a "plastic car." Interestingly, of the 70,000 or so 308 style Ferraris, about 700+ made by Scaglietti were fiberglass--these are the high value 308s!

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batousai666 MSG #68, 09-18-2009 05:06 PM
      look what showed up in the mail today from e-bay:


worked out good that my name is Dan. gonna try to 1 piece the whole thing because it worked out that the R and A are still connected. more than likely I will fuse the M and E togeather and call it a two piece. seein' that it is a Pontiac emblem it will look good with the silver Pontiac emblem already on the car. more pictures tommorow. later- Dan

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batousai666 MSG #69, 09-19-2009 09:14 AM
      log: First attempt


still need some shaving, just a start. gotta go to the parts store for some adhesive. will post pic of finish up later.
Dan


batousai666 MSG #70, 09-19-2009 05:02 PM
      Finito, came out pretty good, no??


THE BIG PICTURE!! drum roll
such drama
and BAM!!!

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batousai666 MSG #71, 09-19-2009 05:10 PM
      DAMN that's purtty.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #72, 09-19-2009 06:41 PM
      Nice work Dan...LOL...100 times better than the black lettering. If you're happy with that setup, then that's all that really matters!

If it were me, I would have considering putting the MERA right above the GTS. But to each their own!

Hey, what's that "thing" that's sticking down/out right between your license plate and the right side reverse light, under the deck lid overhang?

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #73, 09-19-2009 08:38 PM
      Interesting--don't think it's Mera unless it's the long lost '86 prototype. Is it $9000 or $14500?
http://atlanta.craigslist.o.../cto/1381684098.html


batousai666 MSG #74, 09-20-2009 08:35 AM
      MORNING ALL, that car on craigslist looks real good. Is he saying that because he can not find a build #, that this is NOT a Mera??

I am gonna email him later with ???? on the Vin# and car itself. I feel that this car is like mine, no MERA documantion but all the

bells and whistles. As far as the emblem placement, I figured on maybe adding a 2.8L V-6 badge above the GTS, to be more like

the orginal. Say Tom, the little black box between the plate and lights is a cool little back up camera that runs through the

DVD/CD/DATA/MP3/SD/FLASH DRIVE player that came with the car when i got her. kinda cool, huh. even has low light

capablities. like when in the garage at night. the brand is VR3. 180 watts.

Oh, by the way, TOM we talked about gettin some emblems from a guy/gal you know. is this still in the process? because I was

thinking about going to an engraver to see about a key chain type plaque (silver) with a copy of the badge to see about replacating

it. Please let me know if you have any info. from your end. much obliged. well again time for food. chat 'ya all after breakfast, LATER-
D


batousai666 MSG #75, 09-20-2009 08:43 AM
      Oh, yeah, as far as the long lost Mera. according to Rodney, the 1986 prototype was/is the only Mera that DID NOT have the back up lights. I am still awaiting a second opinion on that one. as far as I know that was one of the only differences between the proto and the first true production models. I am not real sure (70%), if memory serves me right. oops... chows done. be back later,bye.

EDIT: upon reinspection. noticed no controller for the mirrors in between window switches. also was told that 1987 Meras did not come with the chromadora rims. OUT.

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #76, 09-20-2009 02:48 PM
      Back-up camera eh? Cool, definitely needed on a Mera. I have a back-up warning on mine, the sender unit is mounted below the bumper. The unit inside the cabin is mounted on the shelf by the rear window. It provides a beeping sound and a digital readout in feet/inches to an obstacle. Backing up with a Mera can be treacherous.

I think that "Mera" on sale is probable where the original Mera frame was rusted out or something, so he switched out the panels onto another frame. Looking at the detail in the headlight covers, I think its a Mera body vice kit.

That's what happened to #8045, my car's sister that was shipped here to Hawaii. Apparently #8045 was bought by someone with the intention of removing the panels and putting it onto a rust-free frame. However, from what I gather, they changed their minds and now the Mera panels are just sitting in a storage shed. I'm trying to locate the owner...would love to have a complete set of extra Mera panels...just in case.

I haven't forgotten about your emblems (yours and Nelson). I came down with a really bad gout attack on my foot, so I was laid up all last week. Hopefully I'll be able to hobble over to her store next week.
Tom


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #77, 09-20-2009 03:16 PM
      Here's another rather inexpensive mod that I did a while back. I wanted to modernize the look by "deleting" the antenna. But I didn't want to mess around with filling and repainting the fender when the original paint is in such great condition, and I wanted it so that any future owner could still easily revert it back to original status. So I removed the antenna, and bought a plastic plug from the local hardware store. I had to trim the bottom of the plug a little bit, and then I painted it with a GM red that was a close match.



Then I bought a new-style, one piece antenna (I think it cost like $14.00) and mounted it in the trunk area, right above the spare tire. The antenna is insulated from grounding by two small rubber-coated brackets. Then I simply ran the cable through to the radio. Since I have an updated stereo, I no longer needed that to use the adaptor on the original old antenna cable.



From this distance, you cannot even tell the antenna was there. I think it just gives the Mera a simpler, cleaner look without the antenna. (This is an older pic where I still had the Ferrari nose badge and wheel center caps.)



And if the next owner wants to put the original antenna back in, all he needs to do is remove the plug and screw the original antenna back in. FM reception through the hood is still okay, at least for the channels I like. I mostly listen to CDs anyways, so reception is not a real issue.

Tom


batousai666 MSG #78, 09-20-2009 03:53 PM
      Hey! you know , its funny i just finished the thread posted about the lost #45. t'wood be nice indeed to have real replacement panels! no cares racing. I mean driving haha..... so I have to scale back my order to just one full set of door/nose emblems. hope thats not a problem. sucks. like i said its nice to have a replacement (wink..) but the job market took another hit here in Mich. That's what's cool about the antenna cover its cheap and effictive. I need to find real cheap things to do so emblems are about it. next is to find the nose badge (thats covered by you, thanks) and a 2.8L V-6. thats it. hopefully get job by Jan. and get a 3800 II SC swap done right proper!! going surfin' later-
D

P.S. hope your foot clears, seasons almost over. wait your in Hawaii. what is your season? month to month? let me guess ALL YEAR!! lucky dog. you know ,truth be told, I was concieved in the chain somewhere. I'll have to check with Mun for exact location.

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #79, 09-20-2009 10:05 PM
      Hi Dan,

Hopefully I'll get a chance to check on the emblems this week. Sorry about your job, economy basically sucks bigtime. Keep at it though, I'm sure something will turn up!

LOL...uh...nice to hear that you had your "beginnings" here in Hawaii.

Check your pm.
Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #80, 09-23-2009 12:51 AM
      Interesting car: http://www.classiccarsforsa...page.php/carno/72409

batousai666 MSG #81, 09-23-2009 09:36 AM
      thats one of the early fiberglass 308's huh? thus the high price. thats whats cool about the Mera, all glass. sometimes tho it would be cool to knock on metal, sometimes. feeling of solidity. does any body know the difference, in weight, between the OG Fiero SE (in my case) vs. the Mera package.how many pounds? + or -. just curious. thanks. Later-

Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #82, 09-24-2009 12:15 AM
      Really hard to pin down the stats on the F-car, but I understand the fiberglass model weighed in at about 2300#. The 3 L dry sump V-8 may have been lighter than the 2.8 V-6. I have heard that the GT weighs about 2800#. Using these figures the Mera may be lighter than the GT, but after lifting the hood and boot of the Mera, I doubt it.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #83, 09-24-2009 10:42 AM
      Check out this link, and hit on the download for Fiero Spec Sheets. Provides all the specs for various years, including weight. You may want to save a copy after you download it.

http://www.fieronews.net/fu...wnloads.php?cat_id=1

There is only one reference that I've ever seen on the weight of the Mera, and it's in the Car and Driver article here. Even in the Mera sales brochures, I've never seen any advertised weight.

http://www.fiero.net/mera/magazine.html

2,920#

I agree with Dick, the side panels may be the same/similar weight, but the front and back lids are definitely a lot heavier. The front lid is so heavy I could probably use it to crack open coconuts here.

Tom



batousai666 MSG #84, 09-24-2009 05:30 PM
      crack coconuts, that's funny. I have been watchin "pass time" on the speed channel and WT. always comes up. plus I was curious. thanks. gonna check out the links above, later-
Dan


batousai666 MSG #85, 09-24-2009 06:01 PM
      before reading the article, I thought Fieros were metal. learning every day. OG panels are lighter than re-body, that sucks. the weight in the article was based on a manual. is the auto. trans. lighter???

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #86, 09-25-2009 06:08 PM
      Good references, Tom, thanks. My car came from the same dealer as in the article.

"Cracking" coconuts on Turagi Beach, ca.1967


Interesting kit, '87 w/48k miles, $8k. Wonder what no top does for structural integrity.

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #87, 09-26-2009 03:51 AM
      Hey Dick, now THAT's funny! Jeez, Turagi Beach...that's down in the South Pacific isn't it?

That kitcar looks very nicely done, but would have looked better with flush-fitting headlight doors. I imagine if done right, he would have installed one of those big "X" braces under the frame to keep the body from flexing. I dunno...I'm just not feeling the love for a convertible 308 look.

LOL...I'd rather pay $8K to have a nice garage like that!!

Check your PM.
Tom

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #88, 09-26-2009 11:28 AM
      Here's the URL for some more shots of this guy's great garage ;-)

http://www.use.com/editset....f00767197a63cf0847a2

He has some pretty neat toys in the background--is that an Ariel Atom or a Wrightspeed X1 parked next to it?

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #89, 09-26-2009 02:29 PM
      Good Lord, that is way too many toys for one person!

batousai666 MSG #90, 09-27-2009 07:49 AM
      painted the red with touch up paint, the pen tip applicator.
after clean up should look pretty good, no??



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #91, 09-27-2009 12:41 PM
      Are these for the interior door handle escutcheons? They do look good. I think the Fiero logo/symbol is really cool--too bad Bracey didn't see fit to integrate it into the Mera badge.

I have Mera badges on my door handles--I think Paul V put them on there. Check with Rodney.


batousai666 MSG #92, 09-27-2009 02:13 PM
      yes they are. here installed:

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batousai666 MSG #93, 09-29-2009 03:26 PM
      LOOK WHAT SHOWED UP IN THE MAIL!!!!!
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one moment please.....
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BAAAAAAM...


thats a fine reproduction. THANKS TOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIERO IN PARADISE, YOU THE MAN!!

installed.........




Thats that. looks real good. now what?????

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #94, 09-29-2009 03:59 PM
      Polo shirts! Try Queensboro.com.

Here are some old "Fiero Owner" articles that came with the car: http://cid-d42fccc03b76b32c...se.aspx/Public?uc=4. Appears FOCOA and "Fiero Owner" are long gone--too bad.

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batousai666 MSG #95, 09-29-2009 05:35 PM
      oh my god!! there is so much here. where to start. I can't. hold on a minute

batousai666 MSG #96, 09-29-2009 05:53 PM
      thank you for the articles.dang. thats tough. there are pictures of PRODUCTION!!! very helpful. look in the back grounds. try to get a feel of the whole process.

I was looking for this exact kind of stuff. I have a very low VIN #. one of those pictures is from at best early 1987. My car might be one of thoes. did he say SE special order. MINES AN SE!!!! by VIN anyway. WHOOOOO....slow down. man i am shakin'.

you know "when you just know". I feel weird. whoops... RPO sheet says mines a black one. Damn. wish they were in color.EDIT:
looks to be a black set on the floor in another picture though.
EVEN BETTER! cuz its in front of the others if that is a split picture. Half and half. one side storage the other work shop.

yeah... I wonder if the "panels against the wall" are Mera or Fiero???

in another thread i asked about how many cars were working. looks like 4 or so. at a time. man that place was BIG.

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Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #97, 09-30-2009 04:51 AM
      Fiero mera weight 2590lbs
Ferrari weight 3250lbs

A 308 destined for the American market would sport much larger heavier bumpers and a slightly sturdier frame (and many other smaller details) in order to meet stringent US road safety standards.

the 308's bodywork was entirely made of glass-reinforced plastic (or GRP), allowing a very light weight of 1,050 kg (2,315 lb). The engine borrowed its dry-sump lubrication from Ferrari's racing experience. This lasted until June, 1977, when the 308 was switched to steel, resulting in an, alleged, 150 kg (331 lb) additional weight. However, a steel-bodied GTB only weighs 12 kg (26 lb) more that its fiberglass body


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #98, 09-30-2009 10:44 AM
      Dick: Thanks for uploading those articles! Great reading, first time I've seen a couple of them.

Dan: LOL...calm down guy, grab a cup of coffee! J/K. Hey, the nose badge looks great! Check your e-mail.

Australian: Can you provide the source of the Mera weight? If you have an article or spec sheet, can you please e-mail it to me or better yet, post here?

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #99, 09-30-2009 04:42 PM
      Found this http://tinyurl.com/yb58lnr on eBay--interesting interior (and color much closer to the F-car). Clearly not a Mera.

batousai666 MSG #100, 09-30-2009 06:43 PM
      alummmmmmmm.........alummmmmmmm........medatating for calm.Que the orchestra.................. evening gentelmen and ladies. for this nights E chat we have for you all...................all right enough calm...
say man the ebay link says it was closed. somebody must a caught wind afoul. you may need to fill us in reholmes.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #101, 09-30-2009 06:43 PM
      That did not last long and the listing has already been removed!

 
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Originally posted by reholmes:

Found this http://tinyurl.com/yb58lnr on eBay--interesting interior (and color much closer to the F-car). Clearly not a Mera.




reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #102, 10-01-2009 01:04 AM
      Well, fortunately this stuff was still in my local cache:


"IF YOU LOOK FOR A NICE FERRARI 308 REPLICA THIS IS IT! THIS WAS COPY FROM 308 BUILT1996 MERA. CAR IS TIGHT NO RATTLE ALWAYS GARAGE KEPT . CAR STILL LOOK BEAUTIFUL IN AND OUT EXCEPT MINOR PAINT SCRATCH ON DRIVE SIDE DOOR, ALSO DRIVE SIDE SEAT SHOULDER MINOR WEAR. RUNS EXCELLENT VERY ECONOMICAL ON GAS AND PLENTY POWER.VERY FEST, SMOOTH ENGINE NO SMOKING NO OIL LEAK. TRANSMISSION SHIFTER PERFECT. NICE MERA DASH, IS DIFFERENT THEN REGULAR FIERO. ALL THE ELECTRIC FUNCTIONAL NORMAL! ALL GAGE, ALL LIGHT, EATER, HORN, DIRECTIONAL,WIPER ETC. EXCEPT AC NOT TOO COLD. THIS IS DAILY DRIVE VEHICLE IF YOU WANT. RECENTLY REPLACE CLUTCH, ALL BREAK SYSTEM ! CALIPERS , MASTER CYLINDER, PARKING BREAK CABLE AND MORE. PRICE IS LOW! DRIVE THIS MERA HOME . SOLD FOR $24,000 BACK IN 1999"








batousai666 MSG #103, 10-01-2009 06:28 AM
      too many ferrari references in his/her ad. probably why it got yanked. not bad lookin'.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #104, 10-01-2009 10:38 AM
      Check out the Fiero F355 Spyder on eBay--pretty, http://tinyurl.com/yb5ld76 . The question becomes, why would you want 1 of 12000 (in the case of the F308) when you can have 1 of 248.

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #105, 10-01-2009 11:46 AM
      Even if he had all of the info right wrt years (and he most certainly does not), I am not even convinced that this is a Mera.

 
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Originally posted by reholmes:

Well, fortunately this stuff was still in my local cache:


"IF YOU LOOK FOR A NICE FERRARI 308 REPLICA THIS IS IT! THIS WAS COPY FROM 308 BUILT1996 MERA. CAR IS TIGHT NO RATTLE ALWAYS GARAGE KEPT . CAR STILL LOOK BEAUTIFUL IN AND OUT EXCEPT MINOR PAINT SCRATCH ON DRIVE SIDE DOOR, ALSO DRIVE SIDE SEAT SHOULDER MINOR WEAR. RUNS EXCELLENT VERY ECONOMICAL ON GAS AND PLENTY POWER.VERY FEST, SMOOTH ENGINE NO SMOKING NO OIL LEAK. TRANSMISSION SHIFTER PERFECT. NICE MERA DASH, IS DIFFERENT THEN REGULAR FIERO. ALL THE ELECTRIC FUNCTIONAL NORMAL! ALL GAGE, ALL LIGHT, EATER, HORN, DIRECTIONAL,WIPER ETC. EXCEPT AC NOT TOO COLD. THIS IS DAILY DRIVE VEHICLE IF YOU WANT. RECENTLY REPLACE CLUTCH, ALL BREAK SYSTEM ! CALIPERS , MASTER CYLINDER, PARKING BREAK CABLE AND MORE. PRICE IS LOW! DRIVE THIS MERA HOME . SOLD FOR $24,000 BACK IN 1999"










batousai666 MSG #106, 10-01-2009 07:38 PM
      looks like he says copy of 1986 Mera in the first sentence. more that likely he's lookin at the door sticker for Fiero/GM production date?? maybe. Decode the VIN# if avalible.Later-

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #107, 10-02-2009 12:23 PM
      Supposedly there was only one 1986 Mera, and that's probably more folklore than fact--Rodney should know.

batousai666 MSG #108, 10-02-2009 04:54 PM
      yea, your right only one 85/86 Fiero Mera. as per Rodney. I think,only breesed thru the articles, but somewhere I read Bob Bracey or some uppity up had the Ole '86 "proto" .....where did I read that???...... its gonna bug me til I find It . Later... I'll be back
D


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #109, 10-03-2009 12:59 PM
      This thread talks about the 86 Mera prototype.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/044167.html

Tom


batousai666 MSG #110, 10-04-2009 07:45 AM
      I have seen this. this may be the article cuz, it was Rodney I got info from. Funny, this Mera-NSX is the guy I bought my '87 stock Mera from. see his sig.

This is the thread where he states in his 3rd post about my Mera not having the Back up lights. this thread got me going on the Mera build # quest.

To me, he states that "my" Mera did not have the Ford back ups. Or that it had the "308 light configureation". same thing right?? This started all my rants in another thread I started in the tech part of pennocks, titled "Mera owners in Michigan, HELP".
please help clear any misinterpation i may be having. thanks.

Also do we know if the "'86" proto MERA was built on an '85 Fiero SE???
My '86 built Fiero SE has such a low '87 Vin# that it could be the '86 proto without back ups.unless it was built on an '85.

this is also, I think, where I got Rodney to explain that not all '87 Meras may have had Back ups.
its very confusing. so I gave up.

Seeing that I cannot find the Build # I refer to My MERA as FrankenMERA, or MERA X.
not being a DOCUMENTED MERA, with references I found in the archives I concluded that this "MERA X" is a salvage mera package
installed on a '87 Fiero. and will swap engines later. if it were a REAL MERA i would consider keeping her stock. anyways
thanks for the links/info. Breakfast time, be back later-
D


batousai666 MSG #111, 10-04-2009 11:48 AM
      hey guys, CHECK THESE OUT:

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batousai666 MSG #112, 10-04-2009 12:02 PM
      heres one for Nelson and Rodney
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photo editors are so much fun


batousai666 MSG #113, 10-05-2009 05:06 PM
      hey guys. went and pulled the back up lights today too wash and it got me thinkin. are your documented Meras back up lights cut in or molded into the rear panel?? just curious:

nice cut.
also a question on tail lights. seems that the turn signal and break lights are tied togeather. on each side. both blink on the turning side and both are solid on the other side. that make sence???

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #114, 10-06-2009 05:01 PM
      Left b/u light, taken from inside above center:


Left b/u light, taken from outside center of car:


Left tail/brake light, taken from inside above center:


Directionals flash yellow lens only, tail/brake red only.


batousai666 MSG #115, 10-07-2009 09:07 AM
      thank you much for the pics. look just like mine. the back ups seem to have been cut in. good
you know I red flagged the "Dry Wall" screws as a hill billy fix. but you have them also.
thats another check in the MERA column. ohh.... and the alum. brackets..... also seems to be a
MERA trait. add them to the list of varifers of Mera. its these small things that help me sleep at night
thanks again Holmes... Later
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #116, 10-07-2009 04:52 PM
      Yeah, I was a bit chagrined (do people still use that word) at the drywall screws. OTOH, glad you have 'em, too--keep us abreast (one word) of your quest.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #117, 10-08-2009 11:33 PM
      mine also has the aluminum brackets with the drywall screws.

batousai666 MSG #118, 10-09-2009 08:47 AM
      we will have to add these facts to the list permentally. Mera Comfirmed Attributes. MCA sounds all professional and such.....
say speaking of alum.brackets you all got these?????

could be another MCA?????

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #119, 10-12-2009 11:37 AM
      Oh, that's a fun game--you show us an obscure picture, and we guess where it is on the car ;-)

batousai666 MSG #120, 10-13-2009 04:00 PM
      ok sounds fun. you first. hint its in the rear. j/k
its right behind the rear window, in the eng. compartment both sides.
holds body panels on. sorry.....

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #121, 10-13-2009 05:28 PM
      OK, should have noted the glass. Mine is very similar--my captive nut appears to be a lock nut. I'll take a picture and send it along--may not be today.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #122, 10-14-2009 03:21 AM
      Ditto here!



What about this bracket setup? Its about midway on the rear clip, both sides.



When I took apart my reverse lights, I remember those drywall screws. I went ahead and re-used them, though, I didn't want to risk stripping out the hole with a different screw.
Tom


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #123, 10-14-2009 03:44 AM
      I had some downtime this past weekend, so I worked on all things...the ash trays.

I used a dremel with a wire brush to clean them out, then gave them a good cleaning with lacquer thinner. Primed them and then painted them with the same "chrome" paint I used for the reverse light housings. Not really chrome...more like a super glossy silver. It's actually not too bad, just need to keep the can well-shaken. I applied three coats and then let them sit in the sun for a while.



Here's what they look like installed:



Absolutely nothing is going in them, like cig butts, coins, lost/found screws and nuts, etc. Paint is ok since this is more of a bling-thing.

Now I just have to look around for a perfect 88 auto shift plate. The previous owner left a nice cig burn (between the left ash tray and the shifter). LOL...not really noticeable except to me.

Tom


batousai666 MSG #124, 10-14-2009 06:21 AM
      right on guys, morning! good to know that these alum. brackets are MCA. and I wish I had them louvers. neither of mine look like that on the inside.

Tom, buddy them trays look awesome. brand new. way to go! thats way too much attention to detail for me. maybe they do look good. fortunately my car was owned by non smoker. : b
any way gotta go work in the rain . till later bye...... dan


batousai666 MSG #125, 10-14-2009 06:24 AM
      also Tom, my bracket seems to be angled the same as yours on the same side. another "little thing" maybe. anyway I'm late (slow typer) bye-- Dan

Australian (istworld_@hotmail.com) MSG #126, 10-14-2009 07:05 AM
      These look fantastic i was going to buy new ones not now....




Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #127, 10-14-2009 12:22 PM
      Thanks for the compliments! Australian, I used one coat of Dupli-Color primer, then finished it with three coats of the "chrome" paint. Not sure how long that will hold up, but nothing will go in them. Maybe I should have sprayed them with D-C gloss clear coat; I've always had good luck with that brand of clear. Goes on dull, but when it drys, its crystal clear. But...they looked great as is after the "chrome" paint, so we'll see.

Hey Dan, sent you an e-mail re: the '87 nose badges.

Cheers,
Tom


batousai666 MSG #128, 10-14-2009 03:02 PM
      hey y'all. I got a question about body panel fasteners. Mine are POP Rivets. anybody else have these. I noticed in Mr. Paradises' last picture post that he has philips screws. all my panels are held with POPs. front hood, rear hood all up the edges. and on them alum. brackets. in the eng compartment. I hope at least one more of you have them also. could be another Mera Trait???? or unfortunately for me- NOT. anyway gotta jet, Later
Daniel


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #129, 10-14-2009 04:51 PM
      Here are my body brackets:




Doesn't show in the pics, but the body brackets are attached with screws.

Interesting note; all my body panels are gray primered on the reverse side. I noted that Tom's are not.

OBTW, Beautiful ashtrays!


batousai666 MSG #130, 10-14-2009 04:55 PM
      My body panels are not grey either. they are yellow weave.


Say,reholmes how are your panels on the sides of both deck lid skins front and back held on??
please say pop rivets?? I hope.

After seeing the backs of both of your louvers I can tell you that mine are reproductions, some how. My drivers looks good, and most of the passenger side looks good 'cept that wood area, but mine are made of two different materials. and the backs are completely flat. wonder where they came from??

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #131, 10-15-2009 10:48 AM
      Hey, maybe mine is the knock-off!

I think a small operation like CC, probably doesn't have very mature manufacturing processes, nor a very long logistics tail, so some things like priming the panel reverse side, or small part consistency over the life of the product line, doesn't happen.

OBTW, a close look at my side grills shows they may have been painted with road tar! I may be doing some intricate color sanding. Another note: The lower panels behind the rear wheels on my car are black vice the red body color--why in the world. . . ?

Some time later--

OK, checked the hood and deck skins, they're riveted--found some more color sanding to be done!

I guess the reason my lower body panels are black; the panels and lower engine grill is all one piece. Not quite sure where I would mask it off to paint the red.

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batousai666 MSG #132, 10-15-2009 02:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Hey, maybe mine is the knock-off!

I think a small operation like CC, probably doesn't have very mature manufacturing processes, nor a very long logistics tail, so some things like priming the panel reverse side, or small part consistency over the life of the product line, doesn't happen.

OBTW, a close look at my side grills shows they may have been painted with road tar! I may be doing some intricate color sanding. Another note: The lower panels behind the rear wheels on my car are black vice the red body color--why in the world. . . ?

Some time later--

OK, checked the hood and deck skins, they're riveted--found some more color sanding to be done!

I guess the reason my lower body panels are black; the panels and lower engine grill is all one piece. Not quite sure where I would mask it off to paint the red.



hey whats up. can you take a picture of the "one piece lower engine grill???
also thanks on the info about the pop rivets. I wonder why you two guys have screws. maybe its an 88 thing. or a confirmation of early Mera Prod # for me. Yeah I'm still looking for that SCUM BUM prod #.


batousai666 MSG #133, 10-15-2009 02:45 PM
      lower engine grill?
does this give you any ideas??
or am I off??


batousai666 MSG #134, 10-15-2009 03:15 PM
      I have been playing with photo editor.


you know I just re-read the whole thread and I just have to say that Fiero in Paradises' paint in, them first pictures, looks like melted candy. soo deep and hard lookin'. you know thick. Mine looks like red water compared. shiney but thin.
His is just plain beatuiful.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #135, 10-15-2009 04:08 PM
      Yeah, well, your paint is a lot better than mine. Nice thing about paint--easily redoable. OBTW, that's a perfect lower panel mask line.

Speaking of logos--I would like to design a large fender decal (ala the F-car), maybe gold/sliver on black or black on yellow ;-). Here's my first cut:

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batousai666 MSG #136, 10-15-2009 05:11 PM
      I like them side markers. I would want black. how big are you gonna make them
?"x?"


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #137, 10-15-2009 07:41 PM
      I dunno, how big are the F-car's--4x5?

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batousai666 MSG #138, 10-16-2009 09:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

I dunno, how big are the F-car's--4x5?





your a better colorer than I am. I tried a sliver to black background, I am a horriable colorer. not gonna even show you all cuz its real bad.

gotta do-over.


as far as size
4x5 or 5x6 would seem to work.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #139, 10-16-2009 10:41 AM
      I don't color either--I can't stay inside the lines, and I press too hard and break my Crayolas.

I opened the gray and white one, which I created in PowerPoint using a logo from the web and a font named Bonk, using Gimp (a free equivalent of P'Shop) and let the software fill in the colors.


batousai666 MSG #140, 10-16-2009 01:38 PM
      i am using photo editor in hp image zone all free hand, horrible. working on it. trying to color some parts on my 95 Trans Am now.
'tis getting better.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #141, 10-17-2009 10:55 AM
      Try Gimp, it's free. Even more powerful than PS, but long learning curve.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #142, 10-18-2009 07:09 PM
      Nice idea guys! That would look great if someone could CNC that on 1/4" aluminum or s/s, and then have the color of the car show thru. I imagine that would be pretty pricey, though.

Well, I picked up the first order of 87 Mera nose badges, and was disappointed.



Not in the laser engraving...that's flawless. But it just doesn't look right, like the gold one, without the border. Second order will be going in next week, so stand by.



In the meanwhile, I may consider sticking them here...later...maybe. I don't want to overdo it...less is more, I think.



Tom



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #143, 10-19-2009 12:46 AM
      Quality looks superb! Who does those for you?

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #144, 10-19-2009 05:40 AM
      In my work with the Air Force, we need to make a lot of plaques. I use this gal who owns her own shop near Pearl Ridge Shopping Center. She recently upgraded to a new laser engraver; combined with her artistic talent, she does really nice work.

batousai666 MSG #145, 10-19-2009 07:36 AM
      them's the bomb. but, I agree they need the silver border around. still better that none at all, thanks for the effort Tom. as mentioned eariler "YOU THE MAN".

P.S. they would make great key chain plaques or something of the such.
i'd try putting one on a truckers hat, and maybe a coffee mug. for starters. Then get the bordered ones for car. if you need to
find a home for dem, please do not hesitate to PM. : ) Later-
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #146, 10-19-2009 08:18 AM
      hey guys. MERA 7 started a build thread here on pennock's. check it out. but prepare yourself for a shock. it looks bad.
its gonna be a good build to watch.

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #147, 10-19-2009 12:18 PM
      LOL...good suggestions Dan for the "rejects." I don't think they would stand up to the abuse for a key chain, but that gives me a idea since my engraver also does custom key chains. Now that she has the artwork in her data base, she could engrave this on almost any flat surface. Hmmm....I'll have to check with her on the possibilities. A mug might may work, but it may stress the black area to make the curvature of the cup.

Tell you what...I'll send one of the "rejects" to you for "testing and evaluation" purposes. In the mail today.

Tom



batousai666 MSG #148, 10-19-2009 06:51 PM
      Roger that friend. Its funny you mention bending metal.... I am a jouneyman sheetmetal worker. should be a cinch....just need to make a friend at my shop ...I am a field worker and the shop super do not like me.... I am a little too "high strung for him", he says. still i can do it at home. or go 3D with it. actually I think I sence a challenge in your above post..... what can i do with it???? hmmmm....

zigaroo MSG #149, 10-19-2009 09:03 PM
     

This something more along the lines of what you wanted?

I made it from scratch in Illustrator so it can be any size you want with whatever changes you'd like.

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Mr_jacob7 MSG #150, 10-19-2009 09:25 PM
      Looks great! i love the whole "Screw Ferrari!" thought concept. ;] a fiero's a fiero, and should be viewed as one. it's special.

and EVERYBODY'S got a ferarri, nowadays. only, like, 500 people have meras (i think it was 500. i don't even know what ta mera is, to be honest [special edition fiero, is my guess.])

anyway... keep it up! it really does look good.



Brocephus (jarojj99@oneonta.edu) MSG #151, 10-19-2009 11:11 PM
      Mr Jacob7, are you a Tribes 2 fan, hehe? Nice '84 btw. :-)

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #152, 10-20-2009 02:32 AM
      It never fails to amaze me how many talented people are on this forum.

Very, very nice Zigaroo!!

Tom


batousai666 MSG #153, 10-20-2009 06:33 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr_jacob7:

Looks great! i love the whole "Screw Ferrari!" thought concept. ;] a fiero's a fiero, and should be viewed as one. it's special.

and EVERYBODY'S got a ferarri, nowadays. only, like, 500 people have meras (i think it was 500. i don't even know what ta mera is, to be honest [special edition fiero, is my guess.])

anyway... keep it up! it really does look good.



MERA= offered Pontiac option 1987-1988 brand new Fiero bought thru dealer converted by Corprate Concepts, Capac MI. now defunct
247 made only maybe 100 left. I'd say rare. theres one on ebay now.


Mr_jacob7 MSG #154, 10-20-2009 06:42 AM
      Wow. very impressive. thanks for the info. ive always been wondering about 'em.

(what's Tribes 2, and how must i be a fan?)



fierocarparts (doyouneedparts@yahoo.com) MSG #155, 10-20-2009 01:03 PM
      Here is one for sale in TX
http://dallas.craigslist.or.../cto/1429704182.html


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #156, 10-20-2009 01:07 PM
      There were only 247 MERAs built so it is unlikely that 500 people have them unless ownership is shared. I understand that there may be somewhere around 70 or less MERAs known at this time. BTW, the MERA resembles a F308/328 vehicle.

 
quote
Originally posted by Mr_jacob7:

Looks great! i love the whole "Screw Ferrari!" thought concept. ;] a fiero's a fiero, and should be viewed as one. it's special.

and EVERYBODY'S got a ferarri, nowadays. only, like, 500 people have meras (i think it was 500. i don't even know what ta mera is, to be honest [special edition fiero, is my guess.])

anyway... keep it up! it really does look good.





Rick 88 MSG #157, 10-20-2009 05:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


MERA= offered Pontiac option 1987-1988 brand new Fiero bought thru dealer converted by Corprate Concepts, Capac MI. now defunct
247 made only maybe 100 left. I'd say rare. theres one on ebay now.


Just an idea..... How about a Corporate Concepts badge that resembles the Pininfarina emblem ahead of the rear wheel of the Mera in this picture. Does anyone make Mera Emblems that covers the Fiero inserts on the inside door handle surround? Also does anyone make a "Mera" steering wheel badge?


Rick 88 MSG #158, 10-20-2009 05:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:



This something more along the lines of what you wanted?

I made it from scratch in Illustrator so it can be any size you want with whatever changes you'd like.



This looks great. Could something like this be made into a center cap cover for the Cromadoras?


zigaroo MSG #159, 10-20-2009 06:04 PM
     

At least, that's what it would look like.

For the center cap, yes, it could be made into it, but I won't be personally pursuing the idea. But you can.

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Rick 88 MSG #160, 10-20-2009 06:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:



At least, that's what it would look like.

For the center cap, yes, it could be made into it, but I won't be personally pursuing the idea. But you can.



That is great! Could these be made in a vinyl decal that looks like polished aluminum?


zigaroo MSG #161, 10-20-2009 07:27 PM
      Absoluetly. Though, gold, brushed aluminum, chrome, etc are considered specialty "colors" and therefore can cost sometimes double the normal price. I'm not sure about their life expectancy as I've never dealt with the stuff at my work.

You should ask a print shop near you and I can provide the file with the text outlined for plotting.

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batousai666 MSG #162, 10-20-2009 08:14 PM
      these Mera's are tight cars. I had a squeak that I could not find while driving, bugging me. turned out to be the leather seat rubbin cuz its pushed all the back. My 95 Trans Am makes more body noise than this so called "kit car". real thick panels. I love it. just need a faster engine too keep up with its looks and its set.

By the way I Emailed the Mera on craigslist for his build # to add to the list.

His add mentioned one thing I asked Rodney about. "ALL 87 meras were made out of GT's". Well this is not true, My 87 Mera is VIN coded as an SE, and that article that got me all excited eairler says that the SE may be a special order, to my delight. Question? is it safe to say (inspired by another thread about rarity here on Pennok's) maybe the RAREST Fiero may be the X amount of SE's converted to Dealer scantioned Mera Conversions in 1987. Or is it tru that ALL 1987 meras were made out of GT's??
wait cant be cuz of the article..........SO ITS FACT......right??????hopefully...I need something...
Rodney said that there "MAYBE" some SE's made in 1987. "not sure."
Maybe he can validate my memory if I remember correctly. I talked his ear off once or twice.............lot 'o' questions

great idea with the C.C. side badge. 'cept the words are too long each.

gotta double it
CORPRATE
CONCEPTS

in black on silver just like the nose badge.... maybe ran togeather corprateconcepts in lower case......like you did?
looks across the country and some ocean.......HEY ,Tom heres another ideer??


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #163, 10-20-2009 08:51 PM
      Check with Rodney and see if he has any.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Just an idea..... How about a Corporate Concepts badge that resembles the Pininfarina emblem ahead of the rear wheel of the Mera in this picture. Does anyone make Mera Emblems that covers the Fiero inserts on the inside door handle surround? Also does anyone make a "Mera" steering wheel badge?




zigaroo MSG #164, 10-20-2009 09:14 PM
     

Top one is the first one I did.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #165, 10-20-2009 10:08 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:



This something more along the lines of what you wanted?

I made it from scratch in Illustrator so it can be any size you want with whatever changes you'd like.



Very nice--clean. I used Bonk font but the "R" is not quite right, so I used an "A" with a "notch" made from a background color triangle. Check the original Mera font from previous entries.



Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #166, 10-21-2009 12:41 AM
      zigaroo...very nice! I like the stacked version better, but can you possibly show how it would look, not centered, but the second line indented:

corporate
......concepts

(don't mind the dots, had to put them in to indent)

Thanks!
Tom


Rick 88 MSG #167, 10-21-2009 01:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

It was a really nice weekend here, so I had my son take some pictures of my Mera. These pics were taken at Maunalua Bay in East Oahu.

If you look closely, you won't see any Ferrari badging. Took them all off and replaced them with other things (see below). Not real sure, but I may be one of the very few that has a Mera, that actually shows as a Mera. I like it much better now, talking with folks about the history of the Mera, and not having to explain "if its so collectible, why is badged out like a Ferrari?"











Went from this:



To this: (I also took apart the reverse lights and painted the inside with a chrome/silver paint. Looks 100% better.)



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



From this:



To this:



And from this:



To this:



Thanks for looking!
Tom



Where did you get the "Mera" emblems for the inner door handle surrounds? Are these factory? They look great.


Rick 88 MSG #168, 10-21-2009 01:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

Absoluetly. Though, gold, brushed aluminum, chrome, etc are considered specialty "colors" and therefore can cost sometimes double the normal price. I'm not sure about their life expectancy as I've never dealt with the stuff at my work.

You should ask a print shop near you and I can provide the file with the text outlined for plotting.



That would be great if you can provide the file. Maybe there is a "liquid silver" color available that would look nice This could also make a nice interior logo on the radio surround or console plate.


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #169, 10-21-2009 01:21 AM
      Rick88,

PM sent.

Tom


Rick 88 MSG #170, 10-21-2009 01:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Very nice--clean. I used Bonk font but the "R" is not quite right, so I used an "A" with a "notch" made from a background color triangle. Check the original Mera font from previous entries.


Just my opinion, but if the "MERA" letters had a little more space around them, or maybe just a bit smaller, they would not overpower the Pegasus below. Someone should make these!


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #171, 10-21-2009 07:44 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

From this:



To this:





If you are making these Mera badges maybe consider making the correct wheel centers:



Your lug nuts are also incorrect. The correct lug nuts are the OEM GM Fiero lug nuts with the black plastic covers.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry



Rick 88 MSG #172, 10-21-2009 09:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


If you are making these Mera badges maybe consider making the correct wheel centers:

Rodney, do you have any Mera emblems, or wheels centers for sale?



Your lug nuts are also incorrect. The correct lug nuts are the OEM GM Fiero lug nuts with the black plastic covers.

I did not know this. Can you post a list of what is correct for an 87 and 88 Mera? I have also seen various interiors, cloth, stock 88 leather and an 87 with additional leather on the console and door panels like Mera in Paradise's car. Are all correct?

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry




Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #173, 10-21-2009 12:49 PM
      Thanks for the tip Rodney! In fact, I just got a set of the black plastic lug covers last week. Now I'm looking for new set of those GM lug nuts. I know they are available on e-bay.

I'll definitely pursue the round center caps after I finetune the 87 nose badge project. Were they gold and black, or silver and black? In your picture, the one on the left looks like silver and black...could be just the camera angle and lighting, though. I'll pursue those in support of the Mera community. Although not 100% original, I kinda like the Pontiac center caps myself, since it adds that Pontiac "label" to the car. But If I can zigaroo's MERA badge artwork, that may also look awesome as a wheel centercap.

Tom

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zigaroo MSG #174, 10-21-2009 02:43 PM
      I too am using the Bonk font and, after blowing up that "Real Mera badges" picture I'm finding the word MERA has all sharp corners, minus a few. I'd need a sharp, close up shot of the original lettering to try and mimic it the best. I can also recreate the original MERA wheel centers if that hasn't already been done.

I see about the R though. I'll work on it. I like to do these things for my own as it's good practice for my real job (one of the things I do is recreate old jet tail flashes/designs and squadron patches)... so if no one ends up using any of this, I won't mind.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #175, 10-21-2009 03:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

I too am using the Bonk font and, after blowing up that "Real Mera badges" picture I'm finding the word MERA has all sharp corners, minus a few. I'd need a sharp, close up shot of the original lettering to try and mimic it the best. I can also recreate the original MERA wheel centers if that hasn't already been done.

I see about the R though. I'll work on it. I like to do these things for my own as it's good practice for my real job (one of the things I do is recreate old jet tail flashes/designs and squadron patches)... so if no one ends up using any of this, I won't mind.



Don't know if I have any of my squadron patches--if so I'll scan and send. 99th BW, 348th BSq, 99th ARS. the ARS KC-135s had a lightning bolt with "Ramrod" on the side on the fuselage--had to take it off during SEA.

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zigaroo MSG #176, 10-21-2009 06:05 PM
      Worked on all the letters. Tried to angle off the corners that looked like were angled, but it's very hard to tell from that one image... so it's probably still wrong in some way or another. Created the notch in the R as best as I could, trying to keep the same angles in respect. Also went over and fixed the A to better mimic the legs of the R, along with the "window" from the R.



Does the middle arm of the E look like it's longer than the top and bottom? I know they're the exact same length, it just... looks weird. Stupid optical illusions.

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Rick 88 MSG #177, 10-21-2009 07:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

Worked on all the letters. Tried to angle off the corners that looked like were angled, but it's very hard to tell from that one image... so it's probably still wrong in some way or another. Created the notch in the R as best as I could, trying to keep the same angles in respect. Also went over and fixed the A to better mimic the legs of the R, along with the "window" from the R.



Does the middle arm of the E look like it's longer than the top and bottom? I know they're the exact same length, it just... looks weird. Stupid optical illusions.



Could you make a MERA fender decal design using the font of the Mera rear decklid letters in Rodney's picture? This would make the Mera smaller in relation to the Pegasus.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #178, 10-21-2009 07:31 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

Worked on all the letters. Tried to angle off the corners that looked like were angled, but it's very hard to tell from that one image... so it's probably still wrong in some way or another. Created the notch in the R as best as I could, trying to keep the same angles in respect. Also went over and fixed the A to better mimic the legs of the R, along with the "window" from the R.



Does the middle arm of the E look like it's longer than the top and bottom? I know they're the exact same length, it just... looks weird. Stupid optical illusions.



Wow, those look great!



batousai666 MSG #179, 10-21-2009 07:39 PM
      awwww....man!!!! I don't get to play the wheel cover game cuz '87 Mera's did not come with the Cromadoras. Poop. you all have been busy while I was gone. thats ok I'll be here all day tommarrow reading about FieroX in the archives, his car is awesome fast. one day I shall be too........you know i made mention of this Mera thing blowing up with "aftermarket" stuff. now we have MERA shift gates and coffee mugs....I want a trucker hat.... speaking of pontiac label:

since i put these on, now I generate interest in the car, cuz it says PONTIAC and people ask "how"...... then the option story comes out and their like"thats cool", instead of oh..."look a Ferrari" then "oh.... its just a Fiero"
some people=bloody savages-

edit for question: say with the big Mera pegasus shield ,will the colors be changable. I need silver on black to go with my rims....thanks, later
Daniel

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #180, 10-21-2009 07:52 PM
      I was following a F-car P4 thread and come on an interesting chat site. Be sure to read down an entry or two.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/...wthread.php?t=169921


batousai666 MSG #181, 10-21-2009 08:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

I was following a F-car P4 thread and come on an interesting chat site. Be sure to read down an entry or two.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/...wthread.php?t=169921


hmmmm.....thats rich.... now i know why mine says pontiac.....least thats in Europe so far????......wonder what their gonna say about your Mera shield.....copy right infringement on geometeric shapes......and colors...and fender location...hahaha....

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batousai666 MSG #182, 10-21-2009 08:20 PM
      man, i wanna post the picture of the back of my car... on that site........SO BAD!!!!
p.s. who here knows Italian??
please translate: "Ecco come sprecare una meravigliosa pontiac.!"

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zigaroo MSG #183, 10-21-2009 08:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

edit for question: say with the big Mera pegasus shield ,will the colors be changable. I need silver on black to go with my rims....thanks, later
Daniel



Yes. In fact I can do anything as I please to it since I recreated it in Adobe Illustrator. If you have a program that can handle a *.ai , *.svg , or *.eps file I can simply send it your way so you can edit the colors or whatever you wish. If you go with a sign shop (or whatever) to create your emblems I can provide them the working files so they can help you edit the image or colors to your liking. That goes with anyone, really. If you'd like to have the files so you edit them on your own, just let me know.

But I'd still like to get some kind of confirmation on whether I have "MERA" recreated properly or not before I start sending some of this MERA related stuff around.

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

please translate: "Ecco come sprecare una meravigliosa pontiac.!"



It very, very, roughly means, "Here's a way to waste a wonderful Pontiac."

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batousai666 MSG #184, 10-21-2009 08:41 PM
      man...... them ferrari guys are so tight you need to join their site to see the pictures....'prolly need a VIN # to join also.......

batousai666 MSG #185, 10-21-2009 08:55 PM
      right on thanks for the translate.....Id say yeah the emblems look great....but i am no critic... there is an optical with the E both length and width in center -too me cuz the screen seems to move or the pixel flash or the 80's flashin' back......what??? I mean I am easy and not real hung up for total reproduction of stock ...more of a "my interpertation of the past meets today updates....

Heavy thinking about a COPPERHEAD metallic paint like the Viper.....a modern kick in the butt.....anybody able to photoshop that for me will get some postive feed back....wait this aint Ebay....well big ups anyway.....all that file talk is way beyond me ...i just got 1st computer ever like in nov. or dec. 2008. yea....I know....ask how long it takes to type this post... i dare you and bring a sandwich...it'll be a minute or 5. later-
D
Edit: ps does meravigliosa=wonderful, digging for definetion of MERA ,other than Aquamans ex wife thanks again

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Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #186, 10-21-2009 09:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

I'll definitely pursue the round center caps after I finetune the 87 nose badge project. Were they gold and black, or silver and black? In your picture, the one on the left looks like silver and black...could be just the camera angle and lighting, though.



They are gold and black. The 87's were black lettering on silver but slightly different. I probably have some pic's of the 87's somewhere.

Rodney Dickman
Mera registry


zigaroo MSG #187, 10-21-2009 09:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Could you make a MERA fender decal design using the font of the Mera rear decklid letters in Rodney's picture? This would make the Mera smaller in relation to the Pegasus.



Yes, but you'll to wait till tomorrow since I have to find a matching font.


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #188, 10-21-2009 10:00 PM
      hello fellow mera freaks...lol ok let me say first i cannot do anything until i get back from the sema show nov 10th. with that said i now have;
MULTIPLE SETS OF POWER VITALONI USED BUT NICE MIRRORS LEFTS AND RIGHTS. I HAVE PURCHASED 5 COMPLETE SETS OF MERA REAR TAILLIGHT LENSES AMBERS AND REDS. I HAVE PURCHASED THE MOLD FOR THE MERA REAR LARGE TOP SAILS. THE MOLD FOR THE MERA LEFT AND RIGHT SAIL QUARTER PANELS, THE MOLD FOR THE MERA REAR BUMPER, AND AM TRYING TO GET THE MOLD FOR THE MERA FRONT CLIP, THE MOLD FOR THE MERA DOORS, AND THE MOLD FOR THE MERA REAR CLIP.... OH YA ALSO GOT A MOLD FOR A 308/328 REAR SPOILER THAT GOES ON TOP OF THE LARGE TOP SAIL. GOT A MOLD FOR A 308 STYLE DASH AS WELL. ANYONE INTERESTED IN PARTS? LOL again absolutely nothing i can do until i get back from the sema car show in las vegas on nov10th. mike in oklahoma

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Dflint (dflint24@gmail.com) MSG #189, 10-21-2009 10:35 PM
      mera vin check 1g2pg3791fp250058

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #190, 10-21-2009 10:40 PM
      dflint that appears to be a 85 car and mera's were not made until 87. but still a nice looking car.

Rick 88 MSG #191, 10-22-2009 11:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:
Sorry. Not for sale.



Rodney
1988 Mera


Could anyone photoshop the wheels on Rodneys Mera is the satin gold color of the Ferrari Scuderia racing wheels? Just want to see how the wheels would look in this finish.


batousai666 MSG #192, 10-22-2009 12:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hello fellow mera freaks...lol ok let me say first i cannot do anything until i get back from the sema show nov 10th. with that said i now have;
MULTIPLE SETS OF POWER VITALONI USED BUT NICE MIRRORS LEFTS AND RIGHTS. I HAVE PURCHASED 5 COMPLETE SETS OF MERA REAR TAILLIGHT LENSES AMBERS AND REDS. I HAVE PURCHASED THE MOLD FOR THE MERA REAR LARGE TOP SAILS. THE MOLD FOR THE MERA LEFT AND RIGHT SAIL QUARTER PANELS, THE MOLD FOR THE MERA REAR BUMPER, AND AM TRYING TO GET THE MOLD FOR THE MERA FRONT CLIP, THE MOLD FOR THE MERA DOORS, AND THE MOLD FOR THE MERA REAR CLIP.... OH YA ALSO GOT A MOLD FOR A 308/328 REAR SPOILER THAT GOES ON TOP OF THE LARGE TOP SAIL. GOT A MOLD FOR A 308 STYLE DASH AS WELL. ANYONE INTERESTED IN PARTS? LOL again absolutely nothing i can do until i get back from the sema car show in las vegas on nov10th. mike in oklahoma




got any pictures???......I am curious about inner fastener locations that I cannot see due to the out of "line of sight" issues...thank you in advance....
Daniel


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #193, 10-22-2009 02:25 PM
      hey dan when i get back from sema i will get you pics. i have the sail panel molds to make new sail panels you were asking about before. thanks, mike in oklahoma

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #194, 10-22-2009 02:27 PM
      ps rodneys car is hot... i love it. pics are awesome.... later mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #195, 10-22-2009 03:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hey dan when i get back from sema i will get you pics. i have the sail panel molds to make new sail panels you were asking about before. thanks, mike in oklahoma


Right on, gives me time to scare up a real job. thank you for reply later
D


zigaroo MSG #196, 10-22-2009 07:23 PM
      This one was fun, but was no easy task. Used Bank Gothic as the basis, but then had to change every line to get it to match closer to the MERA emblem on the bottom of that "master" picture of the original emblems.

It's still not technically correct, but it looks good if you don't know any better. For nit-pickers, the M and E could be slightly adjusted. I noticed there was a slight theme in these letters where all the legs weren't the same size. Instead, one leg would be thin, the other thick, thin, thick, etc. Same pattern was with them all... which is why the A is going to look a little different. Also, the angled leg for the R might be a bit too thick.

Anyways,



I know there's some other requests via PM, but unless you guys have a means of getting these things done, I'm going to delay some of 'em since I just took on a huge touch screen project out at work.


Rick 88 MSG #197, 10-22-2009 07:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

This one was fun, but was no easy task. Used Bank Gothic as the basis, but then had to change every line to get it to match closer to the MERA emblem on the bottom of that "master" picture of the original emblems.

It's still not technically correct, but it looks good if you don't know any better. For nit-pickers, the M and E could be slightly adjusted. I noticed there was a slight theme in these letters where all the legs weren't the same size. Instead, one leg would be thin, the other thick, thin, thick, etc. Same pattern was with them all... which is why the A is going to look a little different. Also, the angled leg for the R might be a bit too thick.

Anyways,



I know there's some other requests via PM, but unless you guys have a means of getting these things done, I'm going to delay some of 'em since I just took on a huge touch screen project out at work.


Very nice!! the second and fourth have the amount of space around the Mera I like. This makes the Pegasus stand out and still identifys the car. Excellent work! Who can make these for us?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #198, 10-22-2009 09:41 PM
      you guys are great with the computer skills here.... i like the 2nd and fourth as well. mike in oklahoma

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #199, 10-22-2009 10:52 PM
      Tom,

I have a set of original MERA wheel centers for the lace wheels that came off Bob Bracey's wife's car. They are a bit different from Rodney's current decals which use a black design on silver/gray vinyl. The ones that I have appear to be a black design on a clear vinyl that have been applied to the standard type of Fiero metallic center cap. They work well on the conventional wheels but are too shallow for the 88 Chromadoras.

If you or I can could locate the correct depth and diameter wheel centers, I have already spoken with someone about pricing for providing domed vinyl stickers. There is a set up charge but I would pay that if there is some interest in several people getting sets.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Thanks for the tip Rodney! In fact, I just got a set of the black plastic lug covers last week. Now I'm looking for new set of those GM lug nuts. I know they are available on e-bay.

I'll definitely pursue the round center caps after I finetune the 87 nose badge project. Were they gold and black, or silver and black? In your picture, the one on the left looks like silver and black...could be just the camera angle and lighting, though. I'll pursue those in support of the Mera community. Although not 100% original, I kinda like the Pontiac center caps myself, since it adds that Pontiac "label" to the car. But If I can zigaroo's MERA badge artwork, that may also look awesome as a wheel centercap.

Tom





hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #200, 10-22-2009 10:56 PM
      If you have the capability of providing original design MERA rear deck louvers with the correct mounting points, I will take a set. I have one other source for louvers, but it is not a stock design wrt attachment points and I would prefer to keep things as original as I can. Let me know what you can do here.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hey dan when i get back from sema i will get you pics. i have the sail panel molds to make new sail panels you were asking about before. thanks, mike in oklahoma




hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #201, 10-22-2009 11:00 PM
      I have my MERA letters off the car due to a recent paint job and am trying to clean them prior to reinstallation. I can e-mail you a fairly high quality picture of original MERA letters if that would help. I would also include them with a ruler in the shot to give the proper sizes. Let me know if you want the photo and I will take it this week.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

I too am using the Bonk font and, after blowing up that "Real Mera badges" picture I'm finding the word MERA has all sharp corners, minus a few. I'd need a sharp, close up shot of the original lettering to try and mimic it the best. I can also recreate the original MERA wheel centers if that hasn't already been done.

I see about the R though. I'll work on it. I like to do these things for my own as it's good practice for my real job (one of the things I do is recreate old jet tail flashes/designs and squadron patches)... so if no one ends up using any of this, I won't mind.





mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #202, 10-22-2009 11:55 PM
      hello nelson, mine are stock mera panels and have correct mounting locations. i will contact you when i get back into town nov10th. and i am sending the grand am se stuff to you as well. thanks, mike in oklahoma

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #203, 10-23-2009 12:09 AM
      Mirror box received today but I have not opened it yet.

 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hello nelson, mine are stock mera panels and have correct mounting locations. i will contact you when i get back into town nov10th. and i am sending the grand am se stuff to you as well. thanks, mike in oklahoma




hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #204, 10-23-2009 12:15 AM
      I picked up a set of stock lace type wheels from Bob Bracey's wife's MERA (a white 88 with an auto transmission) and it came with the black and silver design wheel centers. Maybe the color was a function of the vehicle color instead of the year. Any thoughts on this or maybe she just liked this color better and swapped the centers.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


They are gold and black. The 87's were black lettering on silver but slightly different. I probably have some pic's of the 87's somewhere.

Rodney Dickman
Mera registry




Rick 88 MSG #205, 10-23-2009 03:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Tom,

I have a set of original MERA wheel centers for the lace wheels that came off Bob Bracey's wife's car. They are a bit different from Rodney's current decals which use a black design on silver/gray vinyl. The ones that I have appear to be a black design on a clear vinyl that have been applied to the standard type of Fiero metallic center cap. They work well on the conventional wheels but are too shallow for the 88 Chromadoras.

If you or I can could locate the correct depth and diameter wheel centers, I have already spoken with someone about pricing for providing domed vinyl stickers. There is a set up charge but I would pay that if there is some interest in several people getting sets.

Nelson



What center caps are correct for the 88 Chromadoras?


zigaroo MSG #206, 10-23-2009 04:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I have my MERA letters off the car due to a recent paint job and am trying to clean them prior to reinstallation. I can e-mail you a fairly high quality picture of original MERA letters if that would help. I would also include them with a ruler in the shot to give the proper sizes. Let me know if you want the photo and I will take it this week.

Nelson



Sure.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #207, 10-23-2009 04:44 PM
      I do not really know. Both of my Chromadora sets had the external large cover over the lug nuts. One had no small center caps at all and the other one had Ferrari Horse center caps.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


What center caps are correct for the 88 Chromadoras?




hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #208, 10-23-2009 04:52 PM
      Original MERA letters picture was just sent.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:


Sure.




Rick 88 MSG #209, 10-23-2009 05:24 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


If you are making these Mera badges maybe consider making the correct wheel centers:



Your lug nuts are also incorrect. The correct lug nuts are the OEM GM Fiero lug nuts with the black plastic covers.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


I guess these are the correct Mera center caps in the framed emblems. Anyone have these on their Chromadoras?


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #210, 10-23-2009 05:32 PM
      I have them on my 88 lace style wheels but they are too shallow to fit on the Chromadoras even though the diameter is OK.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


I guess these are the correct Mera center caps in the framed emblems. Anyone have these on their Chromadoras?




hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #211, 10-23-2009 05:43 PM
      Here is a picture (low resolution) of the centers that were included on my standard lace type 88 wheels. A higher resolution picture is available for anyone who wants it.



Nelson

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #212, 10-23-2009 05:49 PM
      Seen on Craigslist: http://atlanta.en.craigslis.../cto/1416771817.html

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #213, 10-23-2009 05:57 PM
      Another listing: Note the floor mats--and the price! http://newjersey.craigslist.../cto/1394116537.html

Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #214, 10-23-2009 06:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:





This is the 87 Mera wheel center cap. Most 87 Meras came from the factory (Corporate Concepts) with the stock Fiero lace wheels painted the same color as the body. If you had a white 87 Mera the wheels were painted white etc. Some 87 Meras may have had aftermarket wheels? Hard to say. Dealers could have changed the rims once they took delivery of these 87 Mera's. For a while Corporate Concepts ran out of the Cromadoras and some 88 Mera's shipped out wth the Fiero factory OEM rims painted the body color and some may have shipped from Corporate Concepts with aftermarket rims.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #215, 10-23-2009 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:
I guess these are the correct Mera center caps in the framed emblems. Anyone have these on their Chromadoras?


I have seen some all original 88 Meras that had no caps under the large wheel caps and some that had these. So it is hit or miss but this is the correct wheel center for the 88 Mera. Since Corporate Concepts was such a small company (maybe 10-15 or so employees at their peak and they made many other products) nothing was set in stone. These Meras were made and shipped out. Variations probably occured.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #216, 10-23-2009 07:18 PM
      Rodney,

This is likely one of those CC factory anomolies. The white lace wheels and these center caps came off a white 88 Mera belonging to Bob Bracey's wife (verfied by registration paperwork that I had inbmy possession). This car had both the Chromadora wheels as well as the standard ones. It also had Recarro seats installed and a spare set of gray cloth seats that went with the car.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


This is the 87 Mera wheel center cap. Most 87 Meras came from the factory (Corporate Concepts) with the stock Fiero lace wheels painted the same color as the body. If you had a white 87 Mera the wheels were painted white etc. Some 87 Meras may have had aftermarket wheels? Hard to say. Dealers could have changed the rims once they took delivery of these 87 Mera's. For a while Corporate Concepts ran out of the Cromadoras and some 88 Mera's shipped out wth the Fiero factory OEM rims painted the body color and some may have shipped from Corporate Concepts with aftermarket rims.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry




batousai666 MSG #217, 10-23-2009 08:25 PM
      lookie what i got:

BIG UPS to Fireo in Paradise for the fix. thanks Tom! (keep em comming I will think of more uses. like embeded in a bowling ball ..yeah thats a a good one. any bowlers????)

and lookie what i made:



and

next is T-shirts and trucker hats with the peagesus design.
you guys are the artiests and I will be the marketing/sales and merchendise.
make a killin at the fair/carshow.....".come one come all.....Get your MERA merchantdise"..... later dudes-
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #218, 10-23-2009 08:34 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


I have seen some all original 88 Meras that had no caps under the large wheel caps and some that had these. So it is hit or miss but this is the correct wheel center for the 88 Mera. Since Corporate Concepts was such a small company (maybe 10-15 or so employees at their peak and they made many other products) nothing was set in stone. These Meras were made and shipped out. Variations probably occured.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry

variations indeed:


Rick 88 MSG #219, 10-23-2009 08:45 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


I have seen some all original 88 Meras that had no caps under the large wheel caps and some that had these. So it is hit or miss but this is the correct wheel center for the 88 Mera. Since Corporate Concepts was such a small company (maybe 10-15 or so employees at their peak and they made many other products) nothing was set in stone. These Meras were made and shipped out. Variations probably occured.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


Rodney,

Do you have Mera center cap insignias for the 88's with Cromadoras for sale?


Rick 88 MSG #220, 10-23-2009 08:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Another listing: Note the floor mats--and the price! http://newjersey.craigslist.../cto/1394116537.html


This is the first time I have seen these mats. Rodney are these factory also?


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #221, 10-23-2009 09:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


This is the first time I have seen these mats. Rodney are these factory also?


Someone had these custom made. I have never seen a factory Mera floor mat.

Rodney



batousai666 MSG #222, 10-23-2009 10:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


Someone had these custom made. I have never seen a factory Mera floor mat.

Rodney



still pretty cool idea....adds to the merch list...floor mats ....monogram golf gloves.....jewelry,jewelry,jewelry......


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #223, 10-23-2009 11:01 PM
      jewelry???? lol i know i know.... bling bling is jewelry. lol

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #224, 10-23-2009 11:04 PM
      my car had the m e r a letters, the 2.8v6, and the gts emblems stuck in the center console between the seat backs. way cool. i would buy mera floor mats if someone makes them

batousai666 MSG #225, 10-24-2009 09:46 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

my car had the m e r a letters, the 2.8v6, and the gts emblems stuck in the center console between the seat backs. way cool. i would buy mera floor mats if someone makes them



Man lucky dogg......some people have all the luck....Build stickers in the glove box..emblems in behind the seats......girlfriends.....money.....least I have the cars.....YEAH....I had some ferrari badges on mine....cufflinks and a nose badge...whoopie...later guys-
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #226, 10-24-2009 10:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

jewelry???? lol i know i know.... bling bling is jewelry. lol



watch faces, one earring, a nice broach for the ladies....phat las vegas style rope necklace medallion on pure silver inlaied in onyx.....on solid 2" gold rope chain...you know for the guy that buys that $26000 Mera on craigslist....bloody richer..hahaha..lets see..... a medical alert type bracelet would be cool....and......blank.. anyway there is a start. any body know how to print iron-on transfers from a computer.....Que the circus music....I am on it boys....hats, t-shirts, underware, neck tie, and baby doll tees for the ladies...cannot forget them....large target audience. wait what about....the KIDS!!!!


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #227, 10-24-2009 03:23 PM
      FYI, I'm already looking into having a couple of companies custom embroider the Mera logo and "MERA" underneath the logo, onto 32oz DuPoint nylon cut mats. I'll let you know what I find out.


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #228, 10-24-2009 06:42 PM
      paradise you should market them, i would buy a set

Rick 88 MSG #229, 10-24-2009 07:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

FYI, I'm already looking into having a couple of companies custom embroider the Mera logo and "MERA" underneath the logo, onto 32oz DuPoint nylon cut mats. I'll let you know what I find out.


Ok, put me down for beechwood, along with door surround emblems, plus whatever else you can whip up.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #230, 10-25-2009 12:22 AM
      Zigaroo,

I think your "MERA" is about as accurate as it can get. The gold and black badge has perfect proportions and will make a great front fender decal ala the F-car. The F-car decal has a green white and red band across the top--wonder what this would look like with a red white and blue band just inside the top black border.

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batousai666 MSG #231, 10-25-2009 01:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Zigaroo,

I think your "MERA" is about as accurate as it can get. The gold and black badge has perfect proportions and will make a great front fender decal ala the F-car. The F-car decal has a green white and red band across the top--wonder what this would look like with a red white and blue band just inside the top black border.




I second this ca-motion......chaos....... future venture in the free enterprise market......Yeah looks good...can i make a tee shirt or 10000????


zigaroo MSG #232, 10-25-2009 01:26 PM
     

I dunno why the right one decided to appear odd, but it isn't like that in Illustrator.

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batousai666 MSG #233, 10-25-2009 01:32 PM
      the kink reminds me of a mitillary patch design....kinda goes good with the ole red white and blue.....
ohhh....and i like the black outline around the colors....thats cool

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zigaroo MSG #234, 10-25-2009 01:33 PM
     



batousai666 MSG #235, 10-25-2009 01:34 PM
      so i see your here i'll quit editing : )

batousai666 MSG #236, 10-25-2009 01:36 PM
      too bad yellow is soo close to gold...till I get some fiero GT pentangle rims painted gold...i need silver to go with the rims....

Rick 88 MSG #237, 10-26-2009 06:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Seen on Craigslist: http://atlanta.en.craigslis.../cto/1416771817.html


This car has Cromadoras with MERA center cap emblems. Which emblem is he using? Where can you get them?


Rick 88 MSG #238, 10-26-2009 06:20 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:



I dunno why the right one decided to appear odd, but it isn't like that in Illustrator.



How about the heavy black outline surrounding the red/white/blue with a thin black line between the colors? This will frame the emblem on red cars.


batousai666 MSG #239, 10-26-2009 09:53 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


This car has Cromadoras with MERA center cap emblems. Which emblem is he using? Where can you get them?



it looks like too me he has both types....weird....drivers side are clearly black w/gold letters.....pass side appears to be the silver w/black letters ......let me see that again....hold on.....

yup, that's my story and i am sticken to it......good eye bro...

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #240, 10-26-2009 11:54 PM
      good eye dan

batousai666 MSG #241, 10-27-2009 06:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

good eye dan



DOGG WILL HUNT!! morning all..... ready for another day????? i'll be diggin' in the achives today..... Say Mera7 hows Vegas???? lucky dog.......


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #242, 10-27-2009 03:02 PM
      http://dallas.craigslist.or.../cto/1439993471.html

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #243, 10-27-2009 09:59 PM
      vegas is great as usual.... went to the porsche dealership today to see my buddies. some strange reason i was telling the porsche guys about my mera... lol who woulda thought lol

batousai666 MSG #244, 10-28-2009 07:57 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

vegas is great as usual.... went to the porsche dealership today to see my buddies. some strange reason i was telling the porsche guys about my mera... lol who woulda thought lol



And........what they say????? too bad Porsches are really quite fast.....or I would talk a little smack....you know like our little horsey friends in Italy.....but Germans do not mess around....never have....probabally never will......Hey all MERA owners.....I found a article in some stuff the previous owner sent me and it has some wierd MERA production # speculation..comes from Pontiac Fiero Connection mag 3rd quarter July 1997 issue...its posted in my thread in the tech disscusion area titled "Mera owners in MI help"....check it out....interesting numbers...i must say.....I highlighted the # s cuz they were faint.....high estimate of over seas exports.....and it says i quote"......In 1988, 84 were built on Formula platforms and 6 were GT conversions"..... SIXX GT cars....wow besides the 1990 proto that is more than likely the rarest Fiero i have found anywhere?????

ohhh.....and are we all conformed in the thinking that a 1987 Fiero SE converted into a 1987 MERA is on a 1986 (according to the sticker on the door jamb) donor car????? also meaning that the elusive 1986 Mera prototype is on a 1985??? I get confused by that alot when reading e-bay replicar adds.....anyway, top of the morning to you all....later-
Daniel
back to youtube and FIERO X= Man that car is fast....10.8....1/4 mile.....i will be happy in the 11's....Bye...

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project34 MSG #245, 10-28-2009 08:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
...a 1987 Fiero SE converted into a 1987 MERA is on a 1986 (according to the sticker on the door jamb) donor car????? also meaning that the elusive 1986 Mera prototype is on a 1985??? I

I suppose almost anything can be replaced or forged, but I'd think one's safer bet would be to rely on the VIN for the year of the car, rather than the door jamb sticker. More specifically, the 10th digit of the Fiero's 17-digit VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) visible on the driver's side of the dashboard designates the model year:
  • E = 1984
  • F = 1985
  • G = 1986
  • H = 1987
  • J = 1988
Also, when it comes time to get a title for the car, I wouldn't want to try convincing my local Department of Motor Vehicles that although the VIN says the car is a 1987, it's really a 1986 because of what it says on the door jamb sticker.




batousai666 MSG #246, 10-28-2009 12:06 PM
      no i mean like the 2010 camaro is new but clearly manufactured in 2009....type thing....

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #247, 10-28-2009 04:59 PM
      Here's a handy document to have. Note the information in the upper right--Mera Conversion, e.g. 8046, and the VIN.



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #248, 10-28-2009 05:27 PM
      very cool holmes... very cool....

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #249, 10-28-2009 05:28 PM
      for those interested here is a gear/speed chart http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #250, 10-28-2009 07:03 PM
      Of course, a variable pitch torque converter throws sand in the works--so to speak. For the rest of us, hold your RPM and read MPH off your GPS. GPS is by its nature far more accurate in speed and direction than position.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #251, 10-28-2009 09:38 PM
      I spoke with this guy today and he wants $19K for the car. It is done up as a F308 and has none of the MERA emblems and lettering. He does not have e-mail but if anyone wants to speak with him, I may be able to retrieve his phone number. The vehicle is about 1.5 hours east of Dallas.

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

http://dallas.craigslist.or.../cto/1439993471.html




Rick 88 MSG #252, 10-28-2009 11:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I spoke with this guy today and he wants $19K for the car. It is done up as a F308 and has none of the MERA emblems and lettering. He does not have e-mail but if anyone wants to speak with him, I may be able to retrieve his phone number. The vehicle is about 1.5 hours east of Dallas.



No email, no wonder I never heard back when I emailed three times to the posting. Where in east Texas is the owner located? I was wondering if it was a real mera since the front bumper has been changed. The other Craigslist listing looks more like a Mera than this one, yet it is not. Do you think the car is worth 19k missing all the Mera emblems? Wouldn't one that rather has not been altered be more valuable now that the cars are now rarer than the 308's they were styled after?


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #253, 10-29-2009 01:01 AM
      No!

Hey a guy from Minn sold a beautiful kit F-308 with $12k worth of brake, suspension, and a 4.9 swap by Ed Parks for $10+ about 6 months ago. So, if it's not authentic, why pay so much. I'm not putting down the kits, I would have loved to have that car--I was just too late. Anyway, that car is my touchstone when it comes to non-Meras. Also, about that time there was a T-Top '88 Mera with very low mileage for sale from a dealer in St Louis for under $17k. Those are my baseline values. Could be I'm dreaming, but in this economy. . . .

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #254, 10-29-2009 01:07 AM
      Agree, not worth $19K.

I lowered the price on my Mera here on PFF to $14K back when:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/043050.html

I lowered it even more to $12,500 locally on C/L; no serious buyers here!

Still looking into the logoed mats. Artwork setup costs are outrageous...$600-$700!

Tom



batousai666 MSG #255, 10-29-2009 07:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


No email, no wonder I never heard back when I emailed three times to the posting. Where in east Texas is the owner located? I was wondering if it was a real mera since the front bumper has been changed. The other Craigslist listing looks more like a Mera than this one, yet it is not. Do you think the car is worth 19k missing all the Mera emblems? Wouldn't one that rather has not been altered be more valuable now that the cars are now rarer than the 308's they were styled after?



I agree with him......I feel that a doucmented MERA is way worth more than a 308/Mera replicar!!!! as far as the 4.9 car?? I would buy any thing with a fast as hell engine. its more about performance than looks....total oppisite of my situation.....paid over 8k for looks and have to put +3k to get the performance.....glances at Mera7 in Vegas.......; }... its all realitive when talking about a Mera......a replicar on the other hand?????


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #256, 10-29-2009 08:10 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

I agree with him......I feel that a doucmented MERA is way worth more than a 308/Mera replicar!!!!


In time in the years to come the most valuable Mera’s will be the few that are as close to OEM from the factory (as they left Corporate Concepts) as possible. They will have the highest value. No doubt. With the history of this car being made and sold only as a new car thru a GM dealer plus with all the brochures and articles published on the Mera an original Mera in original form will someday bring a very high value. I have no doubt some (in excellent original condition or restored) will be sold at some of the highest end auto auctions and bring in very high prices. Maybe 10-20 years yet. I tend to think in time only a few will remain original. I expect in time many owners will try to convert them back to OEM the best they can. Quote me on this. The Mera is a historically significant car with a proven (documented) history.


Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #257, 10-29-2009 08:37 AM
      Someday I will find what my 88 Mera is worth. It is extremely modified and would be hard to convert back to original. It looks very nice all modified. Since it is a documented real 88 Mera it should have a good value. Probably not near what an OEM 88 Mera will someday be worth. I think it is comparable in a sense to having a Hemi Cuda that is all tricked out compared to a Hemi Cuda that is all original (A Mera will probably never be worth what a Hemi anything is worth). I would be interested in the OEM Hemi Cuda and it should bring a much higher value. I have no interest at all in selling my 88 Mera for a long time. I will own it until I am too old to own it. I would probably sell it at one of the high end auctions when that time comes. I have some interesting history with my 88 Mera. I won my class at the Chicago Concours D’Elegance in 1995. Their 100th anniversary show. Just like Pebble Beach and such you drove to the viewing area and were presented with a commemorative bottle of wine engraved with their logo. It has 100th anniversary engraved at the bottom. It was very hard to be extended an invitation to this show. To win my class was a surprise. I was up against some very nice cars.

Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera #8110

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #258, 10-29-2009 09:51 AM
      Rodney,

Congrats on that significant achievement!

FYI: http://www.autoblog.com/200...-crush-fake-ferrari/


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #259, 10-29-2009 06:59 PM
      i agree with rodneys thinking... the original unmolested oem meras will be worth big bucks in several years. although the rest of our meras that are modified like mine will be worth close to the originals as well in my opinion. these days at the barret jackson auctions of coarse original unmolested cars bring BIG bucks. but several tastefully done customs of the same cars bring close to BIG bucks. all in the percieved buyers taste. rodney your car rocks.... wish mine was that nice right now.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #260, 10-29-2009 07:00 PM
      rodney congrats on the bottle of wine/trophy....

Rick 88 MSG #261, 10-30-2009 12:16 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:

Someday I will find what my 88 Mera is worth. It is extremely modified and would be hard to convert back to original. It looks very nice all modified. Since it is a documented real 88 Mera it should have a good value. Probably not near what an OEM 88 Mera will someday be worth. I think it is comparable in a sense to having a Hemi Cuda that is all tricked out compared to a Hemi Cuda that is all original (A Mera will probably never be worth what a Hemi anything is worth). I would be interested in the OEM Hemi Cuda and it should bring a much higher value. I have no interest at all in selling my 88 Mera for a long time. I will own it until I am too old to own it. I would probably sell it at one of the high end auctions when that time comes. I have some interesting history with my 88 Mera. I won my class at the Chicago Concours D’Elegance in 1995. Their 100th anniversary show. Just like Pebble Beach and such you drove to the viewing area and were presented with a commemorative bottle of wine engraved with their logo. It has 100th anniversary engraved at the bottom. It was very hard to be extended an invitation to this show. To win my class was a surprise. I was up against some very nice cars.

Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera #8110



Rodney, for those of us that are interested in keeping a Mera stock, how about producing a "Mera Survivor Guide". A documented information guide on what is correct and stock on Meras. Does someone here own an absolutely stock Mera?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #262, 10-30-2009 01:24 AM
      from the pics it looks like fiero in paradise is very close to oem if not oem....very nice car. mike in oklahoma

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #263, 10-30-2009 04:17 AM
      nelson thank you for purchasing my original vitaloni power mirrors/parts from my car. i have given you a positive feedback rating. happy motoring

batousai666 MSG #264, 10-30-2009 09:03 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

from the pics it looks like fiero in paradise is very close to oem if not oem....very nice car. mike in oklahoma



i agree....so far the hardest part is the emblems.....no one has them... to even get rid of...plus i am finding a lot of anomolies is these cars....for instance....I have a Mera spec. sheet that states the 1987 Mera has manual Vit. mirror on drivers side and powered on the passenger side....my car confirms this.. 'cept its not hooked up....can't find power wire to box....also appearently not all early Meras had back up lights???? i am still out to lunch on this one....also been confirmed that not all, if any, 1987 Meras had Chromodoras......I see a lot of maybes when i search Meras in the archives....but i did find that most kits....hood over the org. Fiero hood in front....thats nice...do we???? its hard to tell....mine IS quite heavy???? does anybody know if... the holes for the door handles/locks, all lights and vents by the doors and gas tank, do these come molded into the panel or are they cut???? off for more questions for you all later...
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #265, 10-30-2009 09:28 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Rodney, for those of us that are interested in keeping a Mera stock, how about producing a "Mera Survivor Guide". A documented information guide on what is correct and stock on Meras. Does someone here own an absolutely stock Mera?



not sure what a stock Mera is..... 'cept a sticker in the trunk and body panels with emblems....the sheet that reholmes posted.... how many more of you have that sheet????? never seen one of them..also, my rpo sheet says i should have.....A01 "Window, deep tinted all, soft ray"...only the sun roof is dark tint...no tint on doors or rear.....

and speaking of rpo sheet....help me with this if you will....paint code 41U is BLACK, U = upper (upper of two tone) what is the lower color code or was it the same color like GREY??? one more thing on the rpo....seems I have the Y 99 code for Special Rally suspension package..plus with the Y99.. i got N78 wheels Hi Tech Turbo, aluminum 14x6 (req.w/ Y99)...what are these???..and F 41 for suspension, heavy duty,front and rear (special)...ohh... and PB4 lock kit, aluminum wheel.....what the heck are these????there's alot more gotta orginize for solid presentation.....maybe a conference call is in order.....until then later-
Daniel


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #266, 10-30-2009 10:08 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:
Rodney, for those of us that are interested in keeping a Mera stock, how about producing a "Mera Survivor Guide". A documented information guide on what is correct and stock on Meras. Does someone here own an absolutely stock Mera?


I hope you can see that this is easy to ask for but would be a very, very large project to complete. You have no idea how much work this would be.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #267, 10-30-2009 10:40 AM
      Rodney is right; however, there are certain characteristics we are fairly sure of. There could be a checklist of these known attributes, and when registering with Rodney, the applicant could be asked to fill it out.

I believe mine is pretty stock--EXCEPT! There are badges on the rear panel that I'm sure were added. I know the three-spoke stock Fiero steering wheel is a replacement. The car has been repainted in a "1997" color. Door handle escutcheons have Rodney's Mera badges. The lower panel behind the rear wheels is "Boxer" style black. There is an F-car key/lock on the sail grill (this is phony, of course, but reflects the F-car lockable filler cap). And most amusingly, the Mera trunk sticker reflects the new paint color. Oh, it also has Rodney's engine lid struts to hold up the 300# trunk lid ;-)

So do these things make it non-stock? Some would say that even the after market Fiero floor mats destroy its "virginity." I'll report, you decide.

OBTW, I've not registered with Rodney, though Perhaps Paul V did before he sold the car (#8046)--I'd like to know more about the Registry.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #268, 10-30-2009 12:44 PM
      Eat your hearts out!

http://www.luxury4play.com/...-thread-50-pics.html


batousai666 MSG #269, 10-30-2009 02:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Eat your hearts out!

http://www.luxury4play.com/...-thread-50-pics.html



man them some nice pads and rides.....note the grey 328 (I think) ferrari looks to be in the house that Ferris Bullers day off was filmed in.....that house is awesome.....park in the house with a glass garage door awesome.....well back to that link for more droolin'- bye
Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #270, 10-30-2009 07:34 PM
      Ferris Bueller certainly came to mind, and that was my fav, too. I love the classic Peninfarina look--well, of course. Though I thought that might have been a 302 GT4.

Rick 88 MSG #271, 10-30-2009 10:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


I hope you can see that this is easy to ask for but would be a very, very large project to complete. You have no idea how much work this would be.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


Too bad someone who worked at Corporate Concepts is not on the Forum. They could be a wealth of information on these cars.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #272, 10-31-2009 09:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:


Yes. In fact I can do anything as I please to it since I recreated it in Adobe Illustrator. If you have a program that can handle a *.ai , *.svg , or *.eps file I can simply send it your way so you can edit the colors or whatever you wish. If you go with a sign shop (or whatever) to create your emblems I can provide them the working files so they can help you edit the image or colors to your liking. That goes with anyone, really. If you'd like to have the files so you edit them on your own, just let me know.



Zigaroo,

I've never used an svg app, and sure as heck not going to shell out for Illustrator just to learn, but have heard good things about freeware Inkscape--are you familiar with it?


batousai666 MSG #273, 10-31-2009 12:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Ferris Bueller certainly came to mind, and that was my fav, too. I love the classic Peninfarina look--well, of course. Though I thought that might have been a 302 GT4.



i just guessed. not sure of the model number/class or designation.....sorry....the bumper looked 328 ish.....I an liking the 288 gto i found somewhere....can i post ferrari pics here.....

YEAH, thats nice.....
like the paint....this is also in consideration for my repaint......

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zigaroo MSG #274, 10-31-2009 02:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Zigaroo,

I've never used an svg app, and sure as heck not going to shell out for Illustrator just to learn, but have heard good things about freeware Inkscape--are you familiar with it?


Not familiar, but I just installed it and loaded the svg file for the emblems into Inkscape without a problem. I want to use the program as if it were Illustrator so a lot of the tools don't quite make sense to me right off the bat, but it appears it can do similar functions---just differently.

If you'd like the file to play around just let me know. I'll keep Inkscape installed so I can try and help if needed.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #275, 10-31-2009 04:54 PM
      Thanks!

As I posted earlier, I think your badge with modified Bing "R", is superb. I would like to see that with the red, white, and blue stripes between the Bing "MERA" and the border. I thought I would try that with Inkscape--but be my guest ;-)


Rick 88 MSG #276, 10-31-2009 06:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:



Top one is the first one I did.





Rick 88 MSG #277, 10-31-2009 06:13 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:



SEE ABOVE

I really like the top emblem for door sill decals on the Mera. How would it appear on a black background? Could a vinyl decal be shadowed to give the 3D look you see here? They would look great in a silver or polished metal color. Can anyone here make these?

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #278, 10-31-2009 08:06 PM
      i like the second one.

zigaroo MSG #279, 11-01-2009 06:48 AM
     

Here's the second one with a black bg,



You can get chrome vinyl and others, like carbon fiber for instance. You're going to want vinyl that has a 5 year life expectancy or longer.


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #280, 11-03-2009 11:20 PM
      Bump

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #281, 11-04-2009 09:52 PM
      My 87 MERA is virtually stock with these exceptions:

Engine is a 3.4 push rod and has a turbo added.
Paint color has been changed from white to gunmetal gray with pearl.
Nose badge will be a reproduction.
Has Mr. Mike leather seat covers and custom floor mats.
Car has been lowered but I do have the original springs at the house.
Wheels are after market.
Mirrors are stock Fiero (power type) but I am working on the Vitaloni power mirrors for this vehicle.

Nelson


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #282, 11-05-2009 11:02 AM
      Nelson,

How 'bout some pics.

Dick


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #283, 11-05-2009 12:27 PM
      I am not certain that I have any photos that sre correctly sized for Pennocks but will see what I can find.

All I get when I try to use PIP is a run time error. I will e-mail you some photos and see if you can post them (if you want to).

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Nelson,

How 'bout some pics.

Dick

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #284, 11-05-2009 01:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

All I get when I try to use PIP is a run time error.




You and me both--tried many times.


I use Photobucket to post stuff--the image code is clearly identified. There are a lot of photo file resizing apps out there, but I like Picasa for general purpose organizing and archiving.

Thanks for the pics--beautiful car! If you would like I will resize these and return them


Rick 88 MSG #285, 11-06-2009 05:04 PM
      There is an 88 Mera listed on Ebay at the moment. Opinions?

batousai666 MSG #286, 11-06-2009 06:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

There is an 88 Mera listed on Ebay at the moment. Opinions?



are you talkin bout the one in the ferrari 308 section????? "other makes" now that i can get a loan maybe????


batousai666 MSG #287, 11-06-2009 06:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

My 87 MERA is virtually stock with these exceptions:

Engine is a 3.4 push rod and has a turbo added.
Paint color has been changed from white to gunmetal gray with pearl.
Nose badge will be a reproduction.
Has Mr. Mike leather seat covers and custom floor mats.
Car has been lowered but I do have the original springs at the house.
Wheels are after market.
Mirrors are stock Fiero (power type) but I am working on the Vitaloni power mirrors for this vehicle.

Nelson



I am not trying to split hairs or anything but.........only the frame and panels are left..............
oops....
jealous kick in the boys... man,Sorry... Nelson....
I only wish i had my sticker......gonna go cry now....bye.....
dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #288, 11-06-2009 11:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

There is an 88 Mera listed on Ebay at the moment. Opinions?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=015&category=6419

He quotes his numbers, but I'm suspicious--why would he say the number is #8140, then #52 built in 1988. The hood and headlights don't look Mera, but it is a pretty car.



batousai666 MSG #289, 11-07-2009 08:22 AM
      no sir, i dont like it......for $11,000. the car fax is longer than the description. the sellers D'script does not mention the accident report. smells like fish....
also no mirror switch, head light covers- smooth, high mileage in 1997.and screwed on louvers... i feel there may be problems cuz of the amount of different owners. no one seems to love this vehicle...they buy it then sell in a couple months.....Daffy....anyway
MORNING ALL......this will be interesting to follow......theres a bid of 2K as of now......RESERVE NOT MET......hahaha....Later-
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #290, 11-07-2009 09:02 AM
      you know ....i went back to that listing to print the D'script and car fax......get this....upon comparision with my car fax issued at time of purchase......10/09/2008 issued FL M.V.D title Miramar Beach FL thats my fax- I had to assume that is the guy i bought from....but he lived in San Destin and Orlando FL..their not close to each other...by any streach.....he had 2 other Meras with him in Orlando. plus mine.(the one with no back up lights)......ok

now this yellow one: 10/06/2008 issued FL M.V.D title Ft. Lauderdale FL
these cars, the ever elusive MERA, were titled within 20 miles of each other and 3 days apart......Most Meras were sold in FL and CA, if i remember right orginally, and them Mera SPLASH downloads i have seen come from FL, but am not sure where??
OHHHH.....and a mysterious 10 year gap is also common between these vehicals.....I dont know... i beleieve in coincidence but.......

yellow car- title issued 06/03/1998-West Babylon, NY
my car - title issued 05/07/1998-Bloomfield Hills, MI
whats that like a month apart?????......Man! this is starting to hurt......me brain........I am gonna get a cup of coffee and chill.....
D

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batousai666 MSG #291, 11-07-2009 10:02 AM
      all right! emailed the yellow car for documation of build # and/or pic. of the trunk lid.....maybe Rodney will pop in also??????and run the VIN.....i dont like the car fax pattern i found....does anybody know how to get vehical history info on cars older than 10 years.....ever use the Pontiac Historical Services???? now with a job, I may have to run a search with them....if alls good??

I know i may not get Mera info, but the car history track seems interesting.....'cept that the title info i have already puts my car in MI in 1997....to me that a good thing.....with the home of Pontiac and Corprate Concepts in my upper eastside backyard......i believe that Bloomfield Hills MI has got a GM corprate presence.....these facts help create an enviroment of early Mera proudction dreams in my head.....good times...owners of large corprate giants wanting to stand out in every crowd.....even the real supercars owner circle...like a GM head honcho....or even dare i say a C.C. employee or .........ahhhhhhhh.......shear bliss awash.....and too much coffee man!!!!
back on the hunt, Later-
D


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #292, 11-07-2009 10:35 AM
      you go dan... lol

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #293, 11-07-2009 11:17 AM
      Dan,

If you want to buy the car and convert it back to the original configuration, I have the seats that came with the car (black leather), the original springs (if you want to reverse the lowering effort), original floor mats, a set of Vitaloni power mirrors that is missing the back cover on one of them, and original lace type wheels with MERA center caps and tires. The turbo could be removed and then the vehicle would look totally stock.

You could buy it and unmodify it to the original configureation with very little effort. However it would cost you some serious cash for the car and extra parts! If you want, I can e-mail you pictures so that you can start drooling over the vehicle. Of course, an original MERA build sticker would be included at no additional cost.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
I am not trying to split hairs or anything but.........only the frame and panels are left..............
oops....
jealous kick in the boys... man,Sorry... Nelson....
I only wish i had my sticker......gonna go cry now....bye.....
dan




hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #294, 11-07-2009 11:52 AM
      PIP partially worked for me after some setting changes. However, it does not want to post some jpg photos that are less than 60 k. Here are a few photos of the 87 MERA that PIP now allows and I have discovered that PIP does not like a photo file name with a % character in it.

Nelson








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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #295, 11-07-2009 03:24 PM
      nelson, very nice car.

batousai666 MSG #296, 11-07-2009 05:18 PM
      i do really like that grey charcoal paint job. Nelson, I apoligize for that bash earlier. i was just fuming/bad mood and lashed. again sorry....Dan

batousai666 MSG #297, 11-07-2009 05:24 PM
      hey Mike, theres that turbo i was talking about earlier......what do you think. from the picture how hard (to you) does it look to install???with new parts????
D


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #298, 11-07-2009 05:39 PM
      I finally have the 87 badges back.



$13.00 per nose badge, $15.00 for the set of two door tabs. I have already clear coated them (2 coats) with Dupli-color Gloss Clear.

Price includes shipping, certified mail. Each badge in its own small ziploc bag.



If interested, LMK.
Tom


Rick 88 MSG #299, 11-07-2009 08:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

I finally have the 87 badges back.



$13.00 per nose badge, $15.00 for the set of two door tabs. I have already clear coated them (2 coats) with Dupli-color Gloss Clear.

Price includes shipping, certified mail. Each badge in its own small ziploc bag.



If interested, LMK.
Tom


I like the 87 badges more than the 88's. Are the 88's the same price?


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #300, 11-07-2009 10:14 PM
      In response to some requests, here are several pictures of my restored 88 Mera with t-tops. The current interior will be replaced with Rob/Amida's F355 interior and VDO gauges sometime in the next few months. Does anyone want to come and help me with this project? I would like to take it to Daytona next year if I am finished.

Nelson










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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #301, 11-07-2009 10:31 PM
      While I am on a roll, here are pictures of the project MERA (1988). It is currently partially disassembled and will be sporting a 383 V8 when it is completed. I also plan to change the interior back to Beechwood (original color). The new interior will come from the other 88 Mera plus the spare parts that I have on hand. Maybe in a couple of years you will see a black or British Racing Green MERA with a decent interior.

Nelson














mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #302, 11-08-2009 12:28 AM
      nelson, very cool race car graphics.... very nice solid red one as well. lucky you. tom i am very interested in full set of 87 mera emblems. mike in oklahoma

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #303, 11-08-2009 02:09 AM
      Nelson, very nice collection! The gray color is actually pretty classy looking, I like it. As for your project Mera, are you planning to keep the red interior? LOL...it's a little over the top for a guy my age. I like your spacious garage too!

Rick, Mike, for the time being, the price for the 88 gold nose badge is slightly lower: $10. It's still $15.00 for the pair (2) of door tabs. That's because they are NOT clear coated.

The prices for the 87 silver/black is slightly higher since I'm taking the time to prep and clear coat them first. For a complete set (one nose badge and two door tabs), the price is $28.00.

I may eventually start to clear coat the 88 nose badges as well, in which case they will be the same price as the 87.

FYI, I'm only making a couple of bucks per badge on these. I paid $125 for the initial artwork setup. Then I still have to pay for each badge, tax, little ziploc bags, postage, deduction for paypal, etc.

Mike, I have some 87 sets (silver/black) ready to go if you're interested. You can paypay me at my e-mail address: masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net

BTW, these badges do not have any mounting tape, since I'm not sure if guys want to glue them down, or use their own mounting tape. For mounting emblems, I've found that this works pretty good:



Tom

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #304, 11-08-2009 03:39 AM
      Minor interior restoration in progress.

I was able to find a nice 88 dot matrix shift plate bezel to replace the one I have with the cig burn.

However, the orange shift indicator paint appeared to be all worn out, so you could not tell what gear you're in. So I used my dremel and a cone-shaped grinder to knock off two of the melted pins. This was enough to lift up on the white plastic piece and allow the indicater piece to slide off (the clear plastic "thingy" on the right edge of the pic).



I then sanded down the tip of the indicator and painted it with some red paint I had handy. I reassembled everything and put a small drop of crazy glue on the pins that I had ground down.

So now, I can easily see what gear I'm in! Just like new.



Next, I wanted to paint the ash tray doors a satin black. However, the problem with painting ash tray doors is that when the doors are snapped open, they bang into the edge of the bezel, and thus would ruin the paint.

So what I did was to cut very small pieces from some stick-on, no-slip dots I had handy. I then stuck them underneath the ash tray doors at these locations:



So now, when the ash tray doors are snapped open, they will hit on these stick-on pieces, and the top of the ash tray door will never touch the edge of the bezel. Here (looking from the bottom), you can see the ash tray door open, and its resting on the stick-on piece.



So from the top, when the ash tray door is snapped open, it won't even touch the bezel area (in the red rectangle), thus saving the paint job.



I know...small nitwad stuff. But that's me.

Tom



batousai666 MSG #305, 11-08-2009 09:05 AM
      such detail Tom.....details are not me......but i doo steal good ideas....all the time.....

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #306, 11-08-2009 10:47 AM
      hey tom, very nice work. yes i will paypal you for a set of 87's. thanks, mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #307, 11-08-2009 12:47 PM
      them silver emblems, with the silver borders, are gonna finish my cars appearence factor till a new modern paint.
Red metallic chrome...shiney...like a Cylon- "by your command" ....with a red LED light like KnightRider......
???House of paint???pictures??Monday/Tuesday??.....(no pressure Mike).......and maybe a pair of the new replacement louvers????OK Mike's bullet proof kevlar ones..hahaha...thats about all it needs as of now. anyways...its leaf day....bye
D.

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #308, 11-08-2009 02:49 PM
      LOL...I'll leave the big mods to you younger guys.
Hey Dan, I sent you a PM.
Tom


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #309, 11-08-2009 05:51 PM
      A couple of things I'm looking into.

My first idea is to have someone make a custom door sill like this:



Of course it would say "Corporate Concepts" instead of "Boss Mustang." And also engrave the funky Mera logo on each end, or maybe just the front end. Also what would be cool is to keep the "Limited Edition #xxx of 247" under the "Corporate Concepts." (uh...sorry Dan).

Thoughts?

I'm also looking into the gold/brass wheel center caps. My contact can only make a standard 2" circle plate, so I'm wondering if this would suffice?

And I still want to get some customized mats. I'll have to check with Lloyds.

Tom


batousai666 MSG #310, 11-08-2009 06:01 PM
     
 
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[B]Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:[/B


Of course it would say "Corporate Concepts" instead of "Boss Mustang." And also engrave the funky Mera logo on each end, or maybe just the front end. Also what would be cool is to keep the "Limited Edition #xxx of 247" under the "Corporate Concepts." (uh...sorry Dan).

Thoughts?

Tom


i am still working on it Tommy, me brah, do not count me ute yet......
D
P.S. thats a great idea.....I would put it where the Pininfirinia sliver bar is behind the door.....anyway i believe that my panels are real mccoy MERA panels just not too sure about the frame/engine and so on..really the sticker is the panels not the car.....ok your right thats called denile....but i am still boy doggin it like a B.M.F.er.....later
D

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batousai666 MSG #311, 11-08-2009 07:16 PM
      Tom sent you a PM or two back.......i was wondering what the measurements of them special, limited edtion, ding dang dong doodlie doo...., better get one, ......silver window plagues thingies are????
you know i have a thing for silver.....i could be the XXX of 247 prototype or something????? I got my job back! how about a bribe????that fair???? i will send deposit and help with the set up fee?????

How about it fellas.....Am i in?????please.....
Dan


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #312, 11-08-2009 08:44 PM
      ya im fine with it... make it say xxx of 247

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #313, 11-08-2009 10:50 PM
      This thread and the pics show what I'm thinking of (custom door sills).

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/047537.html

Aluminum door sills I guess would be okay, and probably cheaper. But the ones I've seen made of stainless steel are super nice. I doubt if there's anyone locally here that can custom make those. The person who makes and sells the Mustang door sill above is located in Taylor, MI.

LOL...eh Dano, you crack me up! LMS...you know "go for broke," "brah," and only the local guys here call me Tommy. Are you sure you didn't grow up here in Hawaii??

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batousai666 MSG #314, 11-09-2009 05:51 AM
      edit for: I WISH i spent any "open eye" time (i.e. not in for the swim of my life type thing) ...in your tropical paradise.....
MI you say. thats me. if you need me to help i will......just let me know????
well its off to workie. later-
Dan

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paced84 (84nd500@comcast.net) MSG #315, 11-09-2009 04:04 PM
      Guys,
Taylor MI is only 4 miles from me. Get the phone # or address info and I will check it out.
Ron T
Fiero Historian
Indy owner



batousai666 MSG #316, 11-09-2009 06:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

ya im fine with it... make it say xxx of 247



Mike! thanks for the vote!.......you know i like that-xxxof 247.....already have thoughts of a MI plate MERA X
or XMERAX or the dream plate MERA 22....... 22 could be my Mera # cuz and only 1 i have a '87 2-early GM
VIN.....also if you add my birth date togeather it equals 22.....kinda queer i know but i have gone ritualistic....in my # quest....
somethings gonna work.i will find the facts.....ONE TRUTH PREVAILS.....shrrtime
D


Rick 88 MSG #317, 11-09-2009 07:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:



Top one is the first one I did.



Tom could you incorporate this font into the door sill plates in Black? I really like Zigaroo's work on this.


batousai666 MSG #318, 11-09-2009 07:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Tom could you incorporate this font into the door sill plates in Black? I really like Zigaroo's work on this.



you know in hindsight, that is a pic of the door sill???????duh!?!?!?!?.....sooo i am free range too make a XXX of 247 little plate for the back of door badge type something.....cool....just a little guy hardly notice at all...... I now have limited access to a full Mechanical Enginerring sheet metal shop and their shop speciality welders......their friends of mine....I work in the field.....i am a good climber...a right little monkey i am.....so all polished metal type things are a option for me now......gonna think ideas later-
D


batousai666 MSG #319, 11-09-2009 07:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

edit for: I WISH i spent any "open eye" time (i.e. not in for the swim of my life type thing) ...in your tropical paradise.....
MI you say. thats me. if you need me to help i will......just let me know????
well its off to workie. later-
Dan




total inside joke......but its even funnier.....POSTED...hahahahahahhaaaa


batousai666 MSG #320, 11-09-2009 07:44 PM
      hey, i just invited myself to the 30th anniversery of the Fiero at the Indy 500 raceway......we should show up in force.(sorry Tom)....
just kidding...... they are talking on another thread about their cars on the track.sometime/anytime is good for me...i should go read the whole thing first....Later-
D


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #321, 11-10-2009 12:44 AM
      fiero in paradise... paypal sent for a set of 87 mera badges. thank you, mike in oklahoma

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #322, 11-11-2009 02:10 AM
      Mike, done deal. PM sent
Thanks,
Tom


batousai666 MSG #323, 11-12-2009 06:02 PM
      bump, cuz we dont do no page FOH!

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #324, 11-12-2009 07:12 PM
      dan did you get the sema pics i sent you? mike

batousai666 MSG #325, 11-12-2009 08:18 PM
      yeah, i sent you a pm....thank you. that Porsche of yours is cool as all get out.....I have wanted an 80's 930 turbo Carrera for ever......love them looks by far as Porsche's go IMO.....dig yours also......send more of your car if you want. any and all super/sports car pics make great desktop backgrounds....Later
Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #326, 11-13-2009 04:04 PM
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

. . . seems a bit steep. Interesting eBay name--do you infer a Mera with an LS2 V-8? We should ask him what he's got. Looks like he may be a Porsche guy, too.

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batousai666 MSG #327, 11-13-2009 05:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

. . . seems a bit steep. Interesting eBay name--do you infer a Mera with an LS2 V-8? We should ask him what he's got. Looks like he may be a Porsche guy, too.




thats Mera7 from here........he mentioned this sale on his thread about his new molds.....


batousai666 MSG #328, 11-13-2009 05:57 PM
      hey Mike. those do not look like my mirrors. Mine are black with a different base......oppps better read the descrip.....before i go on....Later

batousai666 MSG #329, 11-13-2009 06:08 PM
      pictures




notice in the 1st pic, no hole for wire......Rodney Dickman told me, on the phone, that 1987 Meras did not have powered mirrors on the drivers side......I called him when i found out .....i was crying about not having any wires going through the dorr gormets....well found passenger wires put no dr. so pulled mirror for that pic #1. that was the day i turned around and started to believe my MERA pure.....thats even printed on a piece of paper i found with some other Mera stuff lost in my cars stereo instructions....anyway i was told that the mirrors loked right"when i bid on it back in april......plus sounds like you do not have the toggle switch....thats very important to the Mera thing....just some FYI for 'ya.later-
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #330, 11-13-2009 06:51 PM
      heres that sales add or something......

guess he could have made it???? he seemed on the level.....but the achives tell a long hard tale of me crying fraud and counterfitters, most i admit was in my head.....but some is not.....its been fun though....all the "leg work" i got the archives whipped.....do a full fourm search for Mera all threads all subject/username sometime if you ever get bored?!?!....looks at Mike in OK.....hahahaha .....yeah right!...anyway submit post click

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #331, 11-13-2009 09:09 PM
      hey guys yes thats my ebay screen name. but i now am going with a ls4 instead of the ls2. i could probably swing the ls2 if i never launch it hard. anyways yes dan the base is different. these are correct vitaloni power mirrors with the correct mera part number on the mirror flag 30331 but the bases are different, slightly wider. other than that they are real deal power vitaloni mirrors with 30331 on flag. they are very hard to come by is the reason the price is out there. and the backs of these were black but someone has painted them silver/grey color i guess to match their car. yes dan i also have been told the 87's had a manual mirror on lh side and power on rh side. but also told 88's had both powers. i dont know though as my 87 had both powers, i think. ask nelson he bought my originals. anyhow happy bidding to all.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #332, 11-13-2009 09:19 PM
      ps my car has the correct mera toggle switch in the center console.

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #333, 11-13-2009 11:36 PM
      Gee, guess I should pay more attention--tough for an old guy!

OBTW, on my '88, both are powered.


Sofa King MSG #334, 11-13-2009 11:48 PM
     
 
quote
I used my dremel and a cone-shaped grinder to knock off two of the melted pins. This was enough to lift up on the white plastic piece and allow the indicater piece to slide off (the clear plastic "thingy" on the right edge of the pic).



I then sanded down the tip of the indicator and painted it with some red paint I had handy. I reassembled everything and put a small drop of crazy glue on the pins that I had ground down.



Tom,

BRAVO! I'm sure all of us who have autos have the same problem. I was wondering how to get in that area and highlight the letters. Thanks for the great info. Keep up the great work.

G(SK)



batousai666 MSG #335, 11-14-2009 08:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

ps my car has the correct mera toggle switch in the center console.



morning.
say Mike, i was talking about the ebay ones....do you have the switch for them ones?? seeing that you have the '88 version the switch is different than the 87's for there is a selector switch for the powered LH and RH sides.....

mine does not have the selector cuz i dont have the powered DR.....one of the annomlies that got me so frustrated when comparing to pics of others cars.....thats when all the questions started flying.....i never heard that fact about the 87 DR side mirror not being powered no one said that was a thing to look out for.....stumbled on to this on my own.....really, it is fun ....deciphering these cars (Fieros)...the Mera aspects are even more intreging (in my case) if i have a early production model for the "bug" "gremlin" factor.....i like the little things that make things different even from each other..... well yall i fittin to upgrade the ole Mera X.. sooo back with pics.

dan


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #336, 11-14-2009 12:06 PM
      My 87 MERA has power mirrors on both sides as do both on my 88s. The mirror toggle switch is identical on all three cars.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #337, 11-14-2009 12:17 PM
      yes after going to the shop early this morning to look, both mirrors on my 87 were power. and my toggle switch does both sides. but i had heard the ds manual mirror thing before and read the sheet dan put up on here as well. so i dunno. maybe late model year 87's had the 88 mirror set up???? hmmmm rodney help us out please.... mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #338, 11-14-2009 03:57 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

My 87 MERA has power mirrors on both sides as do both on my 88s. The mirror toggle switch is identical on all three cars.



i have heard that later model '87's may have had the powered mirrors both sides....that is true.....or after market install...i cant find the hot wire to the power source off my switch.....heck i am just glad to have the darn thing....'nother feel good aspect about Me X.....
D


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #339, 11-14-2009 05:13 PM
      dan your car has alot of identifiers that most kit cars would not have. yours likely is real. i dont actually know that but you have alot of items that are mera only. just my .02

batousai666 MSG #340, 11-14-2009 06:30 PM
      you are making me blush....stop.....hey whats up guys?....i was getting bashed in the O/T section (they said i had poor grammar)....awwww....thats not nice....anyway, before the grammar police.... i was out doing this:

'
and


its so nice....way to come thru again Tom. thanks big time!!
D

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Rick 88 MSG #341, 11-14-2009 08:26 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

you are making me blush....stop.....hey whats up guys?....i was getting bashed in the O/T section (they said i had poor grammar)....awwww....thats not nice....anyway, before the grammar police.... i was out doing this:

'
and


its so nice....way to come thru again Tom. thanks big time!!
D



Very nice emblem, what year is your Mera?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #342, 11-14-2009 09:43 PM
      very nice dan...looks good. good job tom, nice emblems

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #343, 11-15-2009 12:43 AM
      Thanks for the compliments. Wow, the emblem actually does look good on the car! Hmmm, I'm actually contemplating putting the 87 emblem on my 88. Maybe...

Sofa King; Thanks. Actually, I'm not sure I understand what you mean, since the letters, I believe, are cutouts under the clear plastic. The only way to get to them is to remove that entire white piece, and that mean's grinding out all 12 of those tiny, melted plastic posts. In retrospect, I should have used a "clear" red paint. I haven't mounted the bezel yet, so I don't know how it will look with the lights on. But irrelevant for my Mera, since I don't drive it at night.

Tom



Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #344, 11-15-2009 12:55 AM
      Dan,
LOL...we can all understand you on this thread, so no worries on the grammar here brah!
Tom




batousai666 MSG #345, 11-15-2009 08:19 AM
      yeah, thanks Tommy. i dont know whats up with dat.... my grammar is not that bad???... i call it personallity....after i filter out the "other" voices in my head, its seems rather coherent....maybe?? no???? anyway my car is a 1987 Fiero SE turned MeraX .......i hope in 1987 ??? in Capac, MI ?? I am trying to find out if Mera # 7020 was an automatic??? will help the quest.....wonder if Rodney has that kind of info????
later-Dan

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batousai666 MSG #346, 11-15-2009 08:34 AM
      hey Tom? if you put a 87 emblem on a 88 you will not be OEM (did i use that right?). just kidding.....you have the most stock lookin MERA of the bunch....in my opinion.....you should keep it that way....
i like the silver for the fact they go with my rims.....as a side note; with a job...i am looking into getting some pentangle OEM?? Fiero GT rims and painting them GOLD.....like the BBS type spoaked rims on them automobile' de Italia. if/when this happens, the gold emblems will be reinstalled.... Grammar Shrammar.......lets drive..Later- D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #347, 11-15-2009 10:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

dan your car has alot of identifiers that most kit cars would not have. yours likely is real. i dont actually know that but you have alot of items that are mera only. just my .02


Another indicator might be the awful plush carpet--could be just an '88 thing. I've seen it listed on the spec sheets and I have it in my '88--not pretty.

Went to the FCA Desert Region car show yesterday. Wanted to get some pics of the 308s--wheels, badges, etc. There were about half a dozen GTS and GTBs, but they were all pulling out as I arrived--oh, well, next year. There were more that just Ferraris there--Lambos, a de Tomaso Mangusto, and an absolutely gorgeous (is that a chic word?) Aston Martin Lagonda. Well, I guess that's all sort of off topic--sorry, got carried away.

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #348, 11-15-2009 11:34 AM
      dan... how many voices do you hear lol catch ya later, mike

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #349, 11-15-2009 12:00 PM
      Dick, I agree with you. I have the same "plush" carpet. When I removed my center console to install my guage wires, I noticed that they just glued it right on top of the original carpeting. Thus, its really thick against the console area, and the seats drag against it in this area. Would be nice to find out the name of the company that was sub-contracted out to do the interior (I believe yours is just like mine). Just something to add to the history of the car. Wonder if it would still be in business? Rodney says it was not done by Corporate Concepts, but rather by a local (I assume in Capac area) upholstery shop.
Tom

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #350, 11-15-2009 01:19 PM
      I hate the stuff--so dated--fortunately those great mats came with the car so my sneaks don't get hung up in the fuzz. I'd like to replace it with stock Fiero, but like you said, it adds to the history.

batousai666 MSG #351, 11-15-2009 03:13 PM
      hey fellas??? got any pics of this "plush" carpet....mine looks Fiero stock....i hope its just an 88 thing.
Also do you guys have birdscreen over the "induction" holes behind the doors?

i think they are bondoed in place

and is this a textured black sticker on your cars???? its not painted....

thanks in advance..
Dan
p.s. hey Mike, only three of the 6 are worth listening to. 'cept now they're all chanting MIKEY,MIKEY,MIKEY.. for some reason......ohhhh I know why....that fat offer....you bet i'll advertise.....already started.. thinking about a winshield sticker Performance MotorSports Oklahoma....and MI license plate MERA LSX....thats soo cool....and no Mera # claim...thought some may take the X as roman #10...this way its an engine swap nod...by Performance MotorSports of Oklahoma..of course...Get 'ye sum....later-

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #352, 11-15-2009 06:17 PM
      Got those same grills. I used a small artist brush to repaint them flat black.

The bottom area on my car is painted black, no sticker.

Here's a pic of the "plush" carpeting. You can see where its thick against the console area and the driver's seat.



This is one of those cases where it looks better in the pic than in person. Its not that its "bad," per se, but just dated. But hey, its 21 years old, so its part of the history of the car.

I did a quick search of auto upholstery shops near Capac, MI. Most of them were not in business during the Fiero regime....except one:

Auburn Auto Trim and Sales
3589 Van Dyke Road
Almont, MI 48003

Web says that this place has been around since 1958. Looks like only about 8 miles away from Capac. I may contact them.
Tom


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #353, 11-15-2009 06:29 PM
      Well, Project Shift Bezel is completed. I went from this with the cig burn:



(Note how you can't see clearly what gear you're in.)

to this:



and here's what it looks like with the ash tray doors closed:



And surprisingly, the light still shows through the shift tab that I re-painted red. I had thought that it would be too opaque.

Low-cost resto project, I got the used 88 bezel for $20.00. The rest I had on hand, and it was just some time involved.

Tom



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #354, 11-15-2009 09:21 PM
      looks very nice tom.
dan, i have the grill mesh in the air scoop area as well. and at the bottom of my doors is also a sticker looking stuff.
mike in oklahoma


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #355, 11-15-2009 11:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

and is this a textured black sticker on your cars???? its not painted....



Where is this stuff?



Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #356, 11-15-2009 11:36 PM
      I think Dano is referring to this area. Mine are definitely smooth and painted.



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #357, 11-15-2009 11:53 PM
      OK, what am I looking at--where on the car?

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #358, 11-15-2009 11:57 PM
      To the left is the driver side door that looks like its popped open a bit and to the right is the lower left rear quarter panel....I think.

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batousai666 MSG #359, 11-16-2009 05:48 AM
      yes sir, left side is dr.door, the black is a textured sticker on my car .is it on yours????runs from wheel well to wheel well
Dan


batousai666 MSG #360, 11-16-2009 05:52 AM
      right on brothers in MERAS.... that helps. that carpet looks to be a different color also.....i do not have it....sorry so quick...off to work.later-
Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #361, 11-16-2009 07:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

To the left is the driver side door that looks like its popped open a bit and to the right is the lower left rear quarter panel....I think.



Thanks--mine's painted.



batousai666 MSG #362, 11-16-2009 07:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

looks very nice tom.
dan, i have the grill mesh in the air scoop area as well. and at the bottom of my doors is also a sticker looking stuff.
mike in oklahoma



hope this is a 1987 thing? the 88's seem to be painted....the sticker is harder to apply.... more labor intensive. is it not??hummm!?!?!
D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #363, 11-16-2009 09:01 PM
      Another Mera "indicator" may be the piece added to the top of the interior door panel that follows the exterior body panel which is higher than the stock Fiero. I have seen some "kits" that do not have this addition and you can see the back of the exterior body panel through the window.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #364, 11-17-2009 06:03 PM
      mera's are fieros too

batousai666 MSG #365, 11-17-2009 07:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Another Mera "indicator" may be the piece added to the top of the interior door panel that follows the exterior body panel which is higher than the stock Fiero. I have seen some "kits" that do not have this addition and you can see the back of the exterior body panel through the window.



yup. this one is already on the list for sure.
actually Rodney told me this fact before i bought the car, totally helped me push the "pay now" button.
D


batousai666 MSG #366, 11-17-2009 07:15 PM
      hey guys?
i bumped my Mera Page to the front of the Technical Discussion section. as an invitation to you all.
come join me there if you feel. later
D


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #367, 11-18-2009 05:55 PM
      mera's are fieros too.

batousai666 MSG #368, 11-18-2009 08:49 PM
      and speaking of Fieros!
do these rims look like the stock ?pentangle? Fiero GT wheels that are in the picture from the sales brouchure? the "86 Mera"


this car is so BADD..i love that dark red..
I may have to consider a paint rim combo for the future!
so many choices soo little time on a timecard at work,damn.
bye
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #369, 11-19-2009 09:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

mera's are fieros too.


I'm not sure what your point is, but for me, if the Mera wasn't a Fiero first I wouldn't be driving one. You can't be too subtle with old guys or they won't get it.



Rick 88 MSG #370, 11-19-2009 10:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

and speaking of Fieros!
do these rims look like the stock ?pentangle? Fiero GT wheels that are in the picture from the sales brouchure? the "86 Mera"


this car is so BADD..i love that dark red..
I may have to consider a paint rim combo for the future!
so many choices soo little time on a timecard at work,damn.
bye
D


You could duplicate the lace wheel look with late 80's Trans Am GTA 16 in. wheels and some adapters, or just paint some Fiero GT 15 in.wheels gold and use some spacers to move them out a bit.


batousai666 MSG #371, 11-19-2009 05:44 PM
      good point. SPACERS!!!!
this is the spacer on my car now.


deeze.....mugs are big hunks of aluminum. offset right here.

wonder if these will work on them T.A. rims?thanks for that idea, Man.
more investigation is a foot. indeed.

What kind of wheels DO i have to use with a engine swap? need a "z'' rated tire for sure.'tis gotta handle and hold on to them horsies. HEY Mike! hook a brother up. stick your head in, please.
What kind of wheel/rim combo should i use Guys? hello, any body out there, Tom? Nelson? I bet Fiero X knows!
Later
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #372, 11-19-2009 08:04 PM
      for my engine swaps you will need a y rated tire. mike

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #373, 11-19-2009 10:08 PM
      I am using the Chromadoras on two of the MERAs (88s) with 265 x 50 x 15 tires from Dunlop. The 87 has aftermarket wheels and the same size tires. I would love to get some equivalent size tires in a T or higher speed rating but have not been able to locate any. Let me know if you manage to find some.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

good point. SPACERS!!!!
this is the spacer on my car now.


deeze.....mugs are big hunks of aluminum. offset right here.

wonder if these will work on them T.A. rims?thanks for that idea, Man.
more investigation is a foot. indeed.

What kind of wheels DO i have to use with a engine swap? need a "z'' rated tire for sure.'tis gotta handle and hold on to them horsies. HEY Mike! hook a brother up. stick your head in, please.
What kind of wheel/rim combo should i use Guys? hello, any body out there, Tom? Nelson? I bet Fiero X knows!
Later
D





mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #374, 11-19-2009 11:24 PM
      nelson go to the tirerack.com and plug in your specific size and they will bring up all brands that apply and the different speed ratings as well. mike

batousai666 MSG #375, 11-20-2009 05:46 AM
      right on Mike, that is good info. thanks. Y rating. i'll have to read up on tires. as far as the rims go. what would you suggest, for the high h.p.? i read bad things about spacers and horsepower? will do more seeking on the net. thanks again-
Dan

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #376, 11-20-2009 10:07 AM
      Unfortunately, this yields zero tires found for my stock size (265 x 50 x 15). Even if I drop to 245 tires, only one is available and it is a track tire (Hosier) with no warranty. They make very little in wide 50 series tires with 15 inch rims.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

nelson go to the tirerack.com and plug in your specific size and they will bring up all brands that apply and the different speed ratings as well. mike




Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #377, 11-20-2009 11:21 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

nelson go to the tirerack.com and plug in your specific size and they will bring up all brands that apply and the different speed ratings as well. mike



Going to tire rack is a waste of time. They only sell a average selection of tire sizes. Google the tire size and you will find plenty.

Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera


Rick 88 MSG #378, 11-20-2009 11:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Unfortunately, this yields zero tires found for my stock size (265 x 50 x 15). Even if I drop to 245 tires, only one is available and it is a track tire (Hosier) with no warranty. They make very little in wide 50 series tires with 15 inch rims.

Nelson



BFG TA's come in 265,275, and even 295/50/15's if you really want to fill up your rear wheel wells.


Rick 88 MSG #379, 11-20-2009 11:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

good point. SPACERS!!!!
this is the spacer on my car now.


deeze.....mugs are big hunks of aluminum. offset right here.

wonder if these will work on them T.A. rims?thanks for that idea, Man.
more investigation is a foot. indeed.

What kind of wheels DO i have to use with a engine swap? need a "z'' rated tire for sure.'tis gotta handle and hold on to them horsies. HEY Mike! hook a brother up. stick your head in, please.
What kind of wheel/rim combo should i use Guys? hello, any body out there, Tom? Nelson? I bet Fiero X knows!
Later
D



Your spacers look to be adapters also since there are two different size bolt patterns on them. Get any stock GM A or F body wheel to see it they will bolt on. How wide are the spacers, and do you tires rub?


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #380, 11-20-2009 11:44 AM
      On a different subject: Using the remote on the dash, my deck lid is so heavy that it won't "pop up" enough to clear the latch mechanism--when the solenoid is "unpowered" the lid stays locked. I was thinking of a strategically placed foam block that would hold it clear of the latch.

Anyone else experienced this--what was your solution?


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #381, 11-20-2009 12:39 PM
      Same here, decklid is heavy, but it does pop (unlock) open. I have dual struts, but I doubt that makes a difference when the lid is in that position. Foam block may help, but not sure how long the "springness" would last. A strategically-placed hood spring may the the way to go. Wonder if there is a way to increase the spring tension on the torsion springs?

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #382, 11-20-2009 01:49 PM
      Paul V installed Rodney's struts on the car before I bought it--they do a great job holding up the deck, but you are correct, don't help much in that position. Vector analysis would suggest that the downward force is greatest in the near closed position--cosine alpha sort of thing.

Maybe a piece of my Temperpedic mattress would work (I don't really have a Temperpedic mattress).


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #383, 11-20-2009 02:29 PM
      Just attempted a solution: This is black packing foam--not gray as it appears in the photo--that I Trim Tacked to the deck lid. Quite unobtrusive visually--good color match.



It closes into the dip in the tail light panel.



When closed it is unobtrusive (did I already use that word?).



Oh, one other thing--it works pretty good. Probably will crush over time, but I have lots of this stuff. And as you will note, it took about 1/4 of play out of the latch--probably should adjust that.


Rick 88 MSG #384, 11-20-2009 04:17 PM
      Looks like the same issue here. Decklid pops up but will not stay up without a prop rod. Can the tension springs be readjusted to another slot.

Also do any of your Meras have the rubber '"recall weatherstrip" at the back edge of the decklid to seal against ther rear window. My 88 GT has this, but the Mera does not.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #385, 11-20-2009 05:25 PM
      I opted for Rodney's double piston air/hydraulic cylinders to get away from the original spring. It also makes it easier to install some replacement engines. They have worked well for a couple of years. All of my MERAs release the latch with the remote release equipment.

None of my MERAs have the recall weather strip installed.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

Looks like the same issue here. Decklid pops up but will not stay up without a prop rod. Can the tension springs be readjusted to another slot.

Also do any of your Meras have the rubber '"recall weatherstrip" at the back edge of the decklid to seal against ther rear window. My 88 GT has this, but the Mera does not.




batousai666 MSG #386, 11-20-2009 05:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

On a different subject: Using the remote on the dash, my deck lid is so heavy that it won't "pop up" enough to clear the latch mechanism--when the solenoid is "unpowered" the lid stays locked. I was thinking of a strategically placed foam block that would hold it clear of the latch.

Anyone else experienced this--what was your solution?



my Trans Am has adjustable rubber screw in things. 2 of them in the corners. pops right up.


just find a spot and drill a hole.
as for the tire question, no the tires do not rub. even on hard corners. I know cuz, all corners are hard corners, the way i drive. i have yet to take off the rims so i do not know the measurement sorry.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #387, 11-22-2009 09:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Dick, I agree with you. I have the same "plush" carpet. When I removed my center console to install my guage wires, I noticed that they just glued it right on top of the original carpeting. Thus, its really thick against the console area, and the seats drag against it in this area. Would be nice to find out the name of the company that was sub-contracted out to do the interior (I believe yours is just like mine). Just something to add to the history of the car. Wonder if it would still be in business? Rodney says it was not done by Corporate Concepts, but rather by a local (I assume in Capac area) upholstery shop.
Tom




hey fellas? Morning?
whilest out questing. i re-read the post about the "plush" carpet and I am wondering if this is a LISTABLE Mera trait? i do not have the double carpet. mine looks very stock, and its seems to be just laid in. there is evidence of newer carpet, only cuz of the stereo/back up camera installs.
like the carpet was replaced "new" after these items were installed for convienence. do you all agree, that the double carpet is a Mera trait? At least.. for the 88's. who else has the double carpet? anyone with a '87 have the double up? can someone post pics. of their lower passenger compartments, drivers and pass. sides. so i may compare, to mine.
thanks in advance.
Dan
P.S. notice the better grammar/punctuation? i have been watching TV with the captions on. its seems to be helping? no??



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #388, 11-22-2009 10:00 AM
      Think I noted plush carpet on the Mera brochure--don't know if it was year specific. The stuff is decent only when new and one would certainly be tempted to replace it if they weren't trying to remain "stock." Trouble is, it's on the door panels, too.

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #389, 11-22-2009 12:06 PM
      Another subject: It appears Rodney's strut/brace kit obstructs air filter and battery removal. What is the process for removal/replacement--any special care that needs to be taken?

batousai666 MSG #390, 11-22-2009 12:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Think I noted plush carpet on the Mera brochure--don't know if it was year specific. The stuff is decent only when new and one would certainly be tempted to replace it if they weren't trying to remain "stock." Trouble is, it's on the door panels, too.



i have a brochure

i do not like the fact that the copyright is 1987 and refers to both mirrors being powered. unless maybe a early MERA production nod.. could be.
you are right. plush carpet is offered as a Mera option....weird....so is the 3 speed Automatic Trans. this will help qualify my car as a special Mera...one day:P...cool
anyway, what is the leather interior offered with the plush carpet? that ruffley thing on the "glove box" and....?
as far as the list of Mera options, I have all of them but the powered drivers side mirror
and said Plush Carpet with leather interior...sooo close.. to spec.
d


batousai666 MSG #391, 11-22-2009 12:41 PM
      you know on second read.....DUH? (forgot how to read).
the Plush Carpet is a Fiero option not a Mera option. right?
that helps also...


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #392, 11-22-2009 01:22 PM
      Dan, the plush carpet was an option, I believe installed by the same sub-contractor who re-did the interior with that tuck-and-roll style. Rodney says it was done by a local shop, to wit, my search to find upholstery shop(s) near Capac, MI that may have been in business back then.

Dick, here's a pic of my dual struts. It was already installed when I bought it. I doubt they are Rodney's original struts though. That blue label you can see on the left strut provides the number of the strut you can pic up at Checker's.



No problem working on the air filter side. I've removed the top and replaced the filter easily without removing the left strut.

On the battery side, however, I had to remove the strut on one end (I think it was on the hood side, so I could flip it over 180 and out of the way.) But regardless, with or without the strut, it is a little bit of a challenge to remove a battery from a Mera, due to the protruding hinge assembly and the Mera's body panel. I had to tilt it to get it out. Much easier if you stand inside of the trunk area so you're over the battery to maneuver it out. Luckily the battery I have has a small form factor, so it wasn't too bad to remove it. (I removed it to clean and repaint the bracket area.) LOL...its 10x easier to re-install the battery, letting the weight of the battery slide it back in.

Tom

Edit: If I recall, I think I also removed the one bolt holding the EGR bracket, so that could be pushed down a bit to maneuver the battery out.

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batousai666 MSG #393, 11-22-2009 02:26 PM
      hey Tom, what's up?
the plush carpet is a Fiero option though. right? it is not just a Mera thing is it?
the way i read the brouchure it seems so..
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #394, 11-22-2009 03:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

I had to remove the strut on one end


Do the ends just "pop" off--are they loaded?

Here's my set-up--as you can see the Rodney Mera kit has braces. It appears that the braces are mounted under the shock plate. I'll email Rodney, I'm sure he has an instruction sheet.









Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #395, 11-22-2009 07:00 PM
      Ahhh...I guess my are custom make, looking at the mount on the strut plate. I purchased those same reinforcing rods from Rodney, but never could figure out how to put them on mine, so I don't have them installed. Obviously you'll have to remove them to get the battery out, and probably to even work on the air filter. I think on mine, there is a small opening to slide a screwdriver in and pop the cover off, and they just pull out. In your last pic, you can see that slot on the left side of the strut end to stick a screwdriver in.

Edit: Wow, re-looking at yours, I have a completely different hinge set-up. I have protruding arms, and then what looks like a 1" square tube that goes across the lid and connects to each side
Dan: I've never seen a regular Fiero with that same interior set-up. I think it was unique to the Mera.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #396, 11-22-2009 07:19 PM
      I see that. Our cars are only two numbers apart, must have been an add on.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #397, 11-22-2009 07:51 PM
      someone has completely ferrarized my interior so i wont be of any help to you guys on the carpet thing. mike

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #398, 11-22-2009 07:52 PM
      my rear deck has the 1" square tubing across it as well.

batousai666 MSG #399, 11-23-2009 05:37 AM
      Morning all,
the tube/brackets are a Mera thing, exclusive. that i know. but the carpet??
When i first got me car, it smelled like a swamp.
thought it was cuz it was in Florida? but could be some evidence of a flood or open windows for a duration.
thus the need to replace the carpet. the thing is that the floor seems to match the doors. humm....more investigation after work. thanks for the replies.
later-
Daniel
P.S. hey Tom are you talkin my interior or yours?? as far as not seen in a Fiero??

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #400, 11-23-2009 11:21 AM
      got an 88 coupe over the wkend... driver... cool.... mike in oklahoma

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #401, 11-23-2009 02:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

but the carpet??



Well, according to the brochure you posted, you could get leather without getting plush carpets.

Regarding the deck-lid bar, are the lid hinges attached to the bar?


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #402, 11-23-2009 03:41 PM
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

Don't think this one is a Mera.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #403, 11-23-2009 04:14 PM
      I moved the battery to the front and modified my air intake and then installed dual Rodney struts and reinforcing bars. No problems since then. WRT the carpet, none of mine have anything othet than the standard Fiero carpet with matching door panels.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Another subject: It appears Rodney's strut/brace kit obstructs air filter and battery removal. What is the process for removal/replacement--any special care that needs to be taken?

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #404, 11-23-2009 04:27 PM
      That's a popular option, and done often with an engine swap. I haven't found it a problem with my stock 87 GT, but after uninstalling the strut/brace a couple times on the road, I will probably consider it.

Wish I had "stock" carpet. While my Mera interior is really in nice shape, the carpet looks dated. Going to try a "brush up" to see if I can get it looking better.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #405, 11-23-2009 04:33 PM
      The VIN on the MERA rear deck lid at least matches what is reported as the vehicle VIN. However, this is a highly modified vehicle (if it is a MERA). I cannot see anyone removing the old power mirrors and controller to substitute a standard Fiero mirror. Rodney, is this vehicle on your MERA database?,

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

Don't think this one is a Mera.




mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #406, 11-23-2009 05:29 PM
      if it is a mera someone took the vitaloni mirrors, the mirror toggle switch, the sail panels are held on by drywall screws, the front light covers are wrong and the hood vent is incorrect. but all that said it looks like a nice car.

batousai666 MSG #407, 11-23-2009 05:37 PM
      that yellow car has been disscussed before here and i believe Rodney has verifyed? not sure why it does not have a mirror controller. I must be wrong. but i have this car in my Ebay saves already. must not have sold the first time.
if this is not the same car, i also have what i think is another yellow one that i tried to jones the OEM Mera emblems off them. they said maybe later check back. i let it go. i will go look.

Hey HOLMES do these help?





back later with some info. on that yellow imposter...
D

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batousai666 MSG #408, 11-23-2009 05:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I moved the battery to the front and modified my air intake and then installed dual Rodney struts and reinforcing bars. No problems since then. WRT the carpet, none of mine have anything othet than the standard Fiero carpet with matching door panels.

Nelson





YEAH! that is all i need to hear. thanks Nelson.


batousai666 MSG #409, 11-23-2009 06:12 PM
      went to look. nope, two different cars. The yellow one was first mentioned in early NOV. and is for resale. the emblems i refered to were from a red one.
Which brings up a point.
there sure are lot of MERAS for sale all the sudden? can i get a witness?
since i got mine i have seen at least 5 different cars change hands. or attempted to but "reserve not met." there were 2 on Autotrader.com a Yellow and a Red. the yellow one on the trader must be the one i was thinking of. its gone. presumably not sold. was there all summer.
anyway....what's up with dat? sign of the times...must be.
later
Dan
PS in my email the seller of the yellow one he said that it looked like the pictures he has seen so i think he assumed its a Mera.....me thinks. not with screw on louvers and no controller. plus his rear deck lid looks wierd???
i have been breathing exhaust fumes all day so any wrong statements will be denied.
yours in denile-
Da-nile ooooooo a play on words.
Da-niel

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batousai666 MSG #410, 11-23-2009 06:40 PM
      heres a good one.
can you guys with stickers, cross reference your stickers with that yellow cars sticker to compare the typewriter
imprint. to see if its the same text and type. like on C.S.I. or something...that yellow ones type looks awfully modern. again could just be the fumes?? bye bye
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #411, 11-23-2009 09:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

Hey HOLMES do these help?



Yeah, they really do; thanks! Appears you still have the original deck springs (though only one) which attach to that bar. A comment on Rodney's site says that to install his strut/brace on a Mera you must remove the original springs. As I have Rodney's struts, Paul V must have removed the bar when he installed them.

There has been a lot of Mera sales activities on the web--that's been good for me--but probably only because of hard economic times.



batousai666 MSG #412, 11-24-2009 05:48 AM
      that is cool my friend, glad they helped.
off to work. i'll chat you all later-
Daniel

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Rick 88 MSG #413, 11-24-2009 08:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Yeah, they really do; thanks! Appears you still have the original deck springs (though only one) which attach to that bar. A comment on Rodney's site says that to install his strut/brace on a Mera you must remove the original springs. As I have Rodney's struts, Paul V must have removed the bar when he installed them.

There has been a lot of Mera sales activities on the web--that's been good for me--but probably only because of hard economic times.


Did Meras have both decklid springs when they were assembled or just one?


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #414, 11-24-2009 08:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

The VIN on the MERA rear deck lid at least matches what is reported as the vehicle VIN. However, this is a highly modified vehicle (if it is a MERA). I cannot see anyone removing the old power mirrors and controller to substitute a standard Fiero mirror. Rodney, is this vehicle on your MERA database?,

Nelson



This is a real Mera that has been modified. The VIN is correct and it is a real Mera.

Rodney



Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #415, 11-25-2009 01:50 AM
      Gents, you are in the midst of a celebrity...sort of. LOL...I never thought they would post my car, otherwise I would have written a better article. But there it is, in the RockAuto Nov Newsletter:

http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/index.html

Rick, I have that bracket-to-spring thingy on both sides of my Mera.

Dan, I was referring to my car. I've never seen a regular Fiero with my interior.

Open question: The large rear vent on the rear lid...what color is yours? I want to re-finish mine, currently its a charcoal gray color, but due to weathering, chips, etc, it looks bad close-up. In pictures of other Mera's, that rear vent looks jet black. Not sure what the original color should be.

Tom

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batousai666 MSG #416, 11-25-2009 05:50 AM
      not sure what the stock color is but when i got mine, it was in sliver. Aluminum. very sharp points. ouch! check it out
also i have 2 brackets. one on each side. for the rear lid.


gotta split to work. later
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #417, 11-25-2009 08:22 AM
      good job tom

Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #418, 11-25-2009 09:55 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

not sure what the stock color is but when i got mine, it was in sliver. Aluminum. very sharp points. ouch! check it out
also i have 2 brackets. one on each side.


gotta split to work. later
Dan



They were originally anodized black and over time faded to the silvery color. Many paint them black. If you have a black Mera they look better the silvery black color.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #419, 11-25-2009 02:11 PM
      hello all mera ppls, i have made a set of the qtr sails from my molds and now am remaking a sturdier mold that will keep the sails straight and will incorporate the original bolt locations and hardware for the mera. will keep you all posted as we go. mike in oklahoma

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #420, 11-25-2009 02:39 PM
      Edge of deck grille--black with silver edges, somewhat rounded ends.


Grille bracket.


Grille on sail--black with silver edge.


Rodney,
Did Paul register this car? #8046.


batousai666 MSG #421, 11-25-2009 05:24 PM
      hey Rodney, whats up? thanks for that info. this question was 3 down on the list for all of you here. yes, i have a preconcieved list of questions for y'all. i got a hyper-mind, and hyper minds need venting.
saaaaay.. i hope the previous owner or youself, Mr. Holmes, rounded off them tips, for sick of getting cut??
mine are really sharp. but look soo awesome.
thats cool about the black fade. i wondered about the silver color since all Meras i have seen up to now had black. I prefer the silver because i got them fly silver rims. so i did not care if it was not stock. its nice to know that mine may be stock. just worried about the points on mine now?
what do you say Mr. Dickman? Pointed or not pointed?? this will be an offical Mera trait added to the fourms archive of Mera attributes.
a list question of mine, for all of the Mera owners is. Will my new Fiero GT "lace" type wheels need a spacer to match any difference in body panels?
I ask this to you all because most, actually all of you seem to have the Cromodora style and i do not know if they have spacers? if a spacer is needed do any of you have maybe a part # or brand name??
them GT rims painted gold with the lower half of the car painted black is as close to a Ferrari as i'll go.
love that color combo. soooo 80's.
i have a Lotus on the line i want to lowball a sale. oh? here it is:


see? thats a red car with no black lower half. now i will need a red car with a lower black half. Right???
yeah....that car will be Mera X.
whoops....i have strayed....
anyway...more to follow
Daniel
P.S. AttaBoy Mikey....keep at it. i may be able to get a set, as long as the gainfull employment is at hand

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #422, 11-25-2009 05:32 PM
      plz see my post in the mall section for some parts and pics. mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #423, 11-25-2009 05:37 PM
      very good kind sir
i shall shop your wares
D


arte444 (kakagiraffe@gmail.com) MSG #424, 11-25-2009 05:44 PM
      You made it in the rockauto newsletter I believe. Check it out.
http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/index.html


batousai666 MSG #425, 11-25-2009 06:17 PM
      man, Tom has fans. big ups to Fiero In Paradise.
this is the turning point..
Mera awereness....what to do when the Ferrari politzie come a knockin?
what they gonna do to a *edit* Mera Badged Mera?? i cant wait.
i am considering a drastic visual step away from the 308 look.
like a big rear spolier/wing thing
like this Aldino

yeah....get ye some....
i like that....kinda Lambo.. kinda like the Porsche 930. is that the right one, Mike? The 1980's ish big ass spolier/tail???
totally love the big honking.......its sculpture..yeah. ART..
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #426, 11-25-2009 06:52 PM
      yes its the 930 that had the big tail for the street cars. as far as the ferrari polize they cant touch a mera, its a pontiac and not advertised or spoken as a 308. my opinion is they cannot do anything to or about a mera otherwise they would have in the beginning when they had corporate concepts quit building and had the original molds destroyed. since they didnt have that kind of authority then i would think they still DO NOT have that kind of authority now. just my thought dan. anyone else wanna comment on the subject? mike

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #427, 11-25-2009 11:14 PM
      Uh-oh Dano...my deck lid vents are also rounded on the edges:



I'm wondering if the sharp-edge ninja style that you have are characteristic of 87's only? We need more folks to chime in.

Dick, I really like the look of yours with the silver edging! But I'm wondering how to achieve that look? Paint the whole grill black, then mask off and paint the edges silver? Or paint the thing silver, mask off the edges, and then paint black? Dang, whichever, we're talking about a lot of detailed work with the number of vents! And I'll probably have to let the paint dry at least a week in order to use tape over the fresh paint. And the plan is to reinstall using stainless steel fasteners. LOL...sounds like a good winter project. Ooops...forgot, that won't work here!


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #428, 11-25-2009 11:53 PM
      my car 7071 is a 87 and it has rounded edges too.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #429, 11-25-2009 11:54 PM
      tom my original qtr sail panels are black with silver trim as well.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #430, 11-26-2009 02:39 AM
      Aloha Mike,

I was referring to the rear deck lid vents. Look at that first pic that reholmes posted above. That's the rear deck lid. I've never seen the top edges painted silver like that. Kinda cool, matches the quarter sail panels. I'm just wondering what's the best way to paint that...we're talking about a lot of vanes on that deck lid vent.

Tom

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #431, 11-26-2009 09:53 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:


Dick, I really like the look of yours with the silver edging! But I'm wondering how to achieve that look? Paint the whole grill black, then mask off and paint the edges silver? Or paint the thing silver, mask off the edges, and then paint black? Dang, whichever, we're talking about a lot of detailed work with the number of vents! And I'll probably have to let the paint dry at least a week in order to use tape over the fresh paint. And the plan is to reinstall using stainless steel fasteners. LOL...sounds like a good winter project. Ooops...forgot, that won't work here!


This is as close as I could focus and still hold the camera still. Looks kinda like it may be two pieces--check it out.




batousai666 MSG #432, 11-26-2009 11:16 AM
      good news, good news!
hey all, i went to look at my engine grill and the underside of my slats are BLACK! yippie!
cept my slats look more like Toms. with the double lines at the top.
totally one piece.
also had black color under the screw/bolt heads..
this is real good.
i still hope that your previous owners, rounded off the ends on your cars, guys. sorry.
anyway, dont eat too much today. later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #433, 11-26-2009 11:28 AM
      Tom, as far as the paint you want to do.
you may have to "brush" paint the tops. maybe use a thin piece of cardboard as a mask line,
to keep the paint where you want it.
i do not know. that is a lot of taping. you will have to take the grill off right?? to paint anyway.
try hanging it side ways with the slat ends down maybe gravity will help keep the paint on the tops. and not slide down the face of the slat.
eesh....that is a task.
too bad you dont get snow.
tis a real motivator for modifications. if i cant drive it. i will work on it. least i get to play somehow.
just 2 cents off the top of the head.
i will ponder this some more
Later
D

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batousai666 MSG #434, 11-26-2009 11:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Did Meras have both decklid springs when they were assembled or just one?



i believe i have dual spring arms on my Mera i only showed one in the pics.
if you look closely in the pic of the passenger side that you can see the battery. it is barely in the shot.
the other bracket/spring arm thingy.
later
D


batousai666 MSG #435, 11-26-2009 11:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

yes its the 930 that had the big tail for the street cars. as far as the ferrari polize they cant touch a mera, its a pontiac and not advertised or spoken as a 308. my opinion is they cannot do anything to or about a mera otherwise they would have in the beginning when they had corporate concepts quit building and had the original molds destroyed. since they didnt have that kind of authority then i would think they still DO NOT have that kind of authority now. just my thought dan. anyone else wanna comment on the subject? mike




i agree.
'cept that Ferrari has kinda gotten bigger/more powerful and more expensive in recent years. i thought that they may have gotten better lawyers.
i read somewhere that the sales of their pediestrian cars are to help finance the racing side of their little group??
with that said, i see more a reason to go after the knock-offs to hedge their bets and protect the copyrights. for the racing $$$.
we will see. i hope not but "money talks"
time for dinner at Mommies, later
Dan

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #436, 11-26-2009 02:16 PM
      My 87 MERA also has the aluminum/silver look on the rear deck lid grill work. I will check the edges when I get back home next Wednesday and see if they are sharp or rounded. I think thast they were sharp the last time I washed the car but will make certain and post the update later.

Nelson


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #437, 11-26-2009 03:22 PM
      HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!!

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #438, 11-26-2009 04:07 PM
      Same here! Happy Thanksgiving!

LOL...They probably rounded those vent edges after the first person who ever washed his/her Mera, shredded their chamois, and cut off the tips their fingers.

So I'm wondering are the top edges just painted silver, or is there some sort of edging that they put on top of it? Either way, it must have been pretty pricey.

Tom

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #439, 11-26-2009 08:18 PM
      ill go down to the shop and look at my decklid and tell you what i find...

batousai666 MSG #440, 11-26-2009 08:42 PM
      HEY....Toms on to something.
some kind of trim for a countertop or small dia. aluminun tube, cut in half, pressed on top of the slats. 2 piece like what seem to be on Reholmes' grill thats good lookin out Tommy. thats a ATTABOY for you. gotta think. later
D

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batousai666 MSG #441, 11-26-2009 09:12 PM
      sooo i have been staring at the picture of Toms grill.
can you all post pictures of your grills. multi-angles. Please and thank you.
i seem to see an inconsistant grind pattern in that picture, but cannot tell if its just a bad angle.
does it look uneven? mine are straight to a tirangle. and spot on to each other.
also very interested in the 2 piece anomily in reholmes grill.
some kind of topper would be cool for the two tone feel. I would/may put black on mine if we find something.
heck, i will use electrical tape....hahahaha....(sorry i dont LOL)
back to the staring.
D


batousai666 MSG #442, 11-26-2009 09:21 PM
      pardon moi. its easier to stare this way, sorry.



in the 2nd pic. slat 1 looks different than 2 and 3 but the grind looks the same on 2+3. but 1's grind looks more rounded. even in the shadow. they look different to each other. could be the turkey. i am sleepie.


in this 3rd pic. i see a length optical. the 2nd and 3rd slat looks shorter than the 1st. a sign of a grind. maybe?


this silver strip reminds me of the silver "track" the robot mail delivery units follow at Pfizer. It is poured into the floor.


*edit for photo comments*
D

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batousai666 MSG #443, 11-26-2009 10:13 PM
      damn my eyes!
problem
look at the pictures.
see it. the slats on my grille start on one side of the rail they are welded on and point on the other.
yours both don't. seems mine are shorter than yours. I HAVE THE GRIND.
crap!
this will have to wait till tomarrow.
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #444, 11-27-2009 02:23 PM
      I found a couple of spots on my grille that provide evidence that the slats are one piece and painted--don't look to be masked, but done during a manufacturing process subsequent to extrusion. Probably never repainted--only Tom would have gone through the pain of meticulously masking off the edges before spraying ;-) So, what about the ends? If I were Contemporary Concepts, I would have contracted out stuff like this, and if the specifications weren't sufficiently detailed, there could have been some variation in the product.







reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #445, 11-27-2009 02:29 PM
      The new (suspected) MR2--OK, GM, your turn!



batousai666 MSG #446, 11-28-2009 08:29 AM
      lookie here.



found these in the archives. under 328 rebodie. look familiar? the problem is i think they are upside down.
you know, the points should point down. also they are pointed on the inside(other end) to center. thats interesting.
i am sure none of us have these. for lack of the detail at the top of the ones in this picture. there are more.
i will be staring at these all day.
the cool thing about all our slats pics, is they all have the same pattern with the lines and rolled edge length wise.
i am satisfied that they all came from the same source! as far as, in the pictures above. sooo cool. i'll get these below pics. now.
Later
Daniel

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batousai666 MSG #447, 11-28-2009 09:22 AM
     









ok, is it me or do some of the picsures show flat ends and other pics show pointed ends?
its not that early....or am i seeing things...still?
D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #448, 11-28-2009 10:14 AM
      Our grilles are constructed differently--the longitudinal members are along the edges providing a much more finished look.

Hope that pretty dark red GT in the pic isn't the donor car!


batousai666 MSG #449, 11-28-2009 10:49 AM
      yup, i think this fact sould be added to the Mera list. slats held in 4 spots.
this is another difference between kits and even me! rules. its all comming togeather. i am trying to organize Quotes in my MERA OWNERS.... thread in the Technical Discussion area. i have to write them all down first. its gonna be awhile. Later
D


batousai666 MSG #450, 11-28-2009 12:47 PM
      new pics of my grill reveal points on both ends. 'cept the inside ones point up and at not so sharp an angle.
more at 11 O' clock.





D


batousai666 MSG #451, 11-28-2009 06:56 PM
      trying something ,sorry
 
quote
Originally posted by Mera-NSX:

That auction has been running on ebay for a few months, that seller has alot of rare/interesting car related materials such as that one. I have a few originals of that color brochure which were given to me when I purchased my 88 Bracey Mera. But I don't believe there are actually any Mera emblems viewable on the car shown in the pictures of that brochure. Also, interesting to note that the Mera pictured in the brochure has the real Carello Ferrari tail lights (as my 87 Mera does), and not the ford backup lights more commonly associated with the Mera. That brochure can also be seen by going to fiero.net, clicking on "showroom", then go to "mera sales brochure". Rodney's Mera article as well as another 2 page black & white sales ad are also viewable there as well. Of the Meras I own, none of them came with any original Mera emblems. I'd imagine that most all of the original Mera owners got rid of them to re-badge with Ferr. emblems, not really thinking much about the history or rarity of the Mera down the line.


did this cut und paste thing work, over
*EDIT* Dang it worked. hey what do you all make of this?
this is my Mera The 87, Mera-NSX is refering to. NO back up lights. well, when i got it they were there.
now that i know how the cutting und pasteing this is going to get good.
time to get to the bottom.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #452, 11-29-2009 08:15 AM
      check this little ditty... from Tommy.
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

It was not an idle threat. In 1987, Ferrari filed a suit against Corporate Concepts. They decided to settle out of court. This was their public release at the time:

MERA PRODUCTION TERMINATED UNDER CONSENT DEGREE WITH FERRARI

Detroit, Michigan (June 1, 1988) -- Corporate Concepts Limited announced today that it will promptly cease production of its "Mera" automobile body conversion under a consent decree it has entered into with Ferrari S.p.A to settle the trademark infrigement suit that Ferrari filed after the Mera was introduced. Ferrari's suit in the Federal District Court in Port Huron sought a permanent injunction against the Mera, alleging that its body and exterior appearance was a simulation of the Ferrari 308 and 328 automobiles. The consent decree provides for the production of a small number of additional Meras during a short phase-out period. (RELEASE ANY TIME)

I vaguely remember reading someplace where as part of the consent decree, all of CC's original modes had to be witnessed/destroyed by running over them with a bulldozer, or something like that. I'd wager, however, that at least some of the remaining unused panels went "underground" to give birth to the 308 Kit Car.

Tom



if C.C. stopped production by June 1st, this fact shortens the time frame considerably.
I have a request of all 1987 Mera owners. i would like to see if you can all post your GM build date from the inner sticker from the drivers door jamb??

assuming 01/01/87 to 06/01/88 is the alotted time frame for Mera offical production. 1 1/2 years.
with the fact that CC may have built some cars after this date. these are the cars i want to find.
1987 Fieros converted in late 1988.
maybe this could explain Mike's (Mera7) High Vin#.
I re-read the article on the buy-thru purchase agreement CC had with Pontiac.
i beleive this establishes the "pool of Fieros" thinking.
the biggest stumbling block is the lack of info. about converting, 1987 Fieros into '87 Meras in the year 1988.
what are the chances of an early VIN 1987 Fiero SE being rebodied in 1988. from the left-over Mera parts?? after June 1st??
after the suit was setteled they were allowed to satisify their remaning contracts.
Wonder if this would be reflected in the list Mr. Dickman has??
Hey Rodney? do you have any 1987 Fieros converted in late 1988, by chance on the list??
i am back to the mines, Later
Dann




batousai666 MSG #453, 11-29-2009 08:26 AM
      more of und cutting von pasting
*EDIT*this below is supposed to be a QUOTE from "87registery". how did i do that??

"not sure I understand your statement. All VINs are sequential within the model year. For the 87 model year they ran from 200001 to 246581. Production ran from about Sept 1986 to about Sept 1987. For 1988 the VIN numbers start over again. You need to read the year digit to know if say VIN 212001 is a 87 or 88. For the 87 model year there were only 88 MERAs made. I would guess that MERA numbers would be in sequence to the VIN number but it might be possible that they had a pool of cars to pull from and did not build them in VIN order."

can anyone verify the statement. "Prod. ran from about Sept.1986 to Sept 1987....."
this will offer 88 model year Fieros in 1987. this is a very necessary fact to the case.
soo fun playing detective...Later
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #454, 11-29-2009 12:47 PM
      my pontiac build date 02/87 mera # is 7071

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Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #455, 11-29-2009 12:50 PM
      The Mera VIN's are all over the place. No specific order.

Rodney Dickman
Mera Registry


batousai666 MSG #456, 11-30-2009 05:50 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

my pontiac build date 02/87 mera # is 7071



thanks Rodney.
thats weird. My GM build sticker says 10/86. but your (Mera7) vin is earlier. built on 2/87.
wonder if there was a random bin of Vins to choose from? new quest for info.
i guess that there is no pattern. its all willie/nillie...
off to work. Later
daniel

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #457, 12-01-2009 03:13 PM
      11/87 #8046

batousai666 MSG #458, 12-01-2009 05:44 PM
      RIGHT ON! thanks reholmes, thats very insightful. a built 11/87 ('88) Fiero, built Mera in 1988.
I assume your title is for a 1988 Fiero.
now i need the highest 1988 Fiero build date for the highest GM Vin# possible for conversion by say early June 1988.
no possible Meras past a certian GM build date.
this helps (I think) ....cut off a Vin # sequence. does that make sence.
if 1988 production starts in Sept.'87 and the end of Meras is in June sometime??....10 months...for 159 Meras....
16 a month. average 4 a week.
its too hard to track the early Meras, so i want to concentrate on a hopefully smoother line with the '88's.
with the last 1988 Mera being 8159??
i will stop soon....almost out of questions/options....i am sold that i have a real Mera, just dying for that stupid #....
once i get horsepower it will fade. that will be my Mera number. MERA350. yeah...that is nice. off for grub. Later
Daniel

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batousai666 MSG #459, 12-01-2009 05:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

11/87 #8046



46 -'88 Meras built in 3 months. this reads that way, Right? Like reverse enginerring?
unless 1988 Fieros were available before Sept 1987.
I hate Math!!!!
*EDIT* after i break out the calculator, if they built 4 a week, at average- 46 Meras in 3 months is possible.
but they need the full 3 months. this gives a 2 car fudge factor.
D

P.S. hey Rodney? do you have Mera 1-or ??? registered? for both years.maybe?
i would like to find both earliest and latest 1987+1988 Meras for the GM build dates. thank you in advance.

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batousai666 MSG #460, 12-01-2009 06:14 PM
      you know? i bet, you could walk into a dealership in 1988 and order a 1987 Fiero SE for a Mera conversion.
what do you all think about that?
i am done with this line of thought for now.
thats me i am all out. got no more Ammo/???.
once i tear into X this winter i will have better "....how to questions", anyway. bye
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #461, 12-02-2009 12:18 AM
      dan, i think you likely could order anything pontiac and corporate concepts would allow which since its your money likely anything. just my .02

batousai666 MSG #462, 12-02-2009 05:24 PM
      yup. guess i need to focus on the future of MERA X.
time for new pic.

sorry.
i am swaying side to side on weather to go 3800 and a paint
or go big 350 and no paint till say ....maybe 2011??
its all 'bout the Money. That is the big question. Not purchase price related as much as the
continuing gainfull employment type.
so hope this downturn ends soon. single with no dependence (kids) and broke.
How did that happen???
this winter i 'finna tear apart the car interior and get under and around the exterior.
see what i can see.
C-ya
D


batousai666 MSG #463, 12-02-2009 05:35 PM
      Tommy must be paintin' his grill. he's been quiet.
TOMMY!
hows that workin' out for ya??
bloody pain in the a-noos, eh??
i am wanting to paint my grill tops Black.
this weekend gonna Photo Edit (color) some things on my cars.
may prove fruitful.

say, anybody have an opinion on puttin a spoiler/wing on a Mera.
looking for ideas.
big and honking like the Aldino, is one of mine...
or nice and tight like a older Dodge Intrepid....low and rounded down just past the rear 1/4 panels. BLACK.
could also custom something out of aluminum from my shop..anidoized!!..yeah!
ohhh....off to consider over dinner.
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #464, 12-02-2009 06:22 PM
      dan i have the 308 328 spoiler mold for a factory looking spoiler. also my .02 is the 350 v8 mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #465, 12-03-2009 05:50 AM
      hey, Mike.
Morning all.
is not your spolier the one on top of the rear window near roof??
i like the tails i have found on the Koenig Ferrari 512's.



man, that car is sharp!
maybe both. the bottom one has bo' 'dem..
wonder if there will be a ".... heat from the engine, removal problem"?
off to work. later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #466, 12-03-2009 06:16 PM
     





My driving season ends Now. fricken snow.
well it had to happen, one day soon.
least i got a shoveling job this winter should i get laid-off between now and April.
Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #467, 12-03-2009 06:51 PM
      Interestingly, the plastic F-car is the most sought after.

http://tinyurl.com/yjv2fo6


batousai666 MSG #468, 12-03-2009 06:59 PM
      i guess the very first 308's were made of fiberglass. till 1977
the rest are metal.
if i remember correctly less than 800???
i cannot recall.
D

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batousai666 MSG #469, 12-03-2009 07:06 PM
      yup 712 made. and it was "glass reinforced plastic"'
had to look it up on the WIKI..
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #470, 12-03-2009 07:24 PM
      mmmm.... gotta love plastic cars lol

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #471, 12-03-2009 07:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
My driving season ends Now. fricken snow.
well it had to happen, one day soon.
least i got a shoveling job this winter should i get laid-off between now and April.
Dan


Guess you were shivering!

I really like your wheels.


batousai666 MSG #472, 12-03-2009 08:23 PM
      shivering? kinda.
the blurryness is because i had to use the "night" flash.
i was born clinically hyperactive. its sooo hard to stand still.
also, seems it may make me talk a mite much..... at work most of my
co-workers have I pods. :shrugs: i like to communicate.
the rims are nice. 'specally after Rodney helped me with the fact that 87 Meras
did not have the Cromodoras. then i saw some light into the early Mera "bugs".
i like how the fronts are 15" and the rears are 16".
still want see about the GT rims though.
goodnite all. tomarrow anew.
Daniel

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Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #473, 12-03-2009 09:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

yup 712 made. and it was "glass reinforced plastic"'
had to look it up on the WIKI..
D



Ferrari originally intended to make the 308's in fiberglass but they found making the panels took too much time (they could not keep up with production) and switched to the steel body as soon as they could get the stamping dies finished.



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #474, 12-04-2009 12:54 PM
      OK, guys, if you've received strangely late and incoherent PMs from me, I have now set mail preferences to aid my failing short, mid, and long-term memory. Huh?

Dick

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Rick 88 MSG #475, 12-04-2009 07:28 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Interestingly, the plastic F-car is the most sought after.

http://tinyurl.com/yjv2fo6


The steel 308's did not have much anti corrosion protection when they were built, and tend to have body rust issues. I saw a glass 308 once but it had a lot of spiderwebbing in the fiberglass. It was from here and the desert climate had taken it's toll on the fiberglass. The bodywork did not appear to be very thick. I still would have taken the car in a hearbeat........


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #476, 12-04-2009 08:22 PM
      I've never seen one. Was hoping to at the F-car cruz-in up in Carefree a couple weeks ago. There were some beautiful cars there--some I could afford to buy, none I could afford to own.

fierogtman (jermcd50@hotmail.com) MSG #477, 12-04-2009 09:26 PM
      i love the mira in stock trim. no need for any other badges!!

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #478, 12-06-2009 10:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by fierogtman:

i love the mira in stock trim. no need for any other badges!!


Though it seems to be difficult to determine exactly what that "stock trim" is--Dan is determined to find out ;-)


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #479, 12-06-2009 02:02 PM
      Per Rodney's observation, I decided to go back to stock lugs nuts and black caps:

Before pic:



After pic:



I do plan on keeping the Pontiac center caps, however. It took me a while to find ones that were large enough to cover the hole in the Cromodora rims. I know...not "stock," but it personalizes the car, and I think the Pontiac emblem on the center caps is a nice subtle way to identify the car's heritage better.

Edit: Forgot to add the (LOL) totally unnecessary bling to the engine carpartment...MAP sensor cover.



Tom

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Rick 88 MSG #480, 12-06-2009 09:20 PM
      Tom,

That is where I was going to put the other Mera emblem. It looks great. How did you make the cover it is attached to? Also did you add the decklid assist strut to car? Mine is all stock but does not stay up if there is any kind of breeze.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #481, 12-06-2009 10:29 PM
      http://videos.streetfire.ne...Cylinders_721558.htm

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #482, 12-07-2009 03:11 AM
      Rick,

I bought the MAP sensor cover here:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/049417.html

My twin strut system looks like it was custom made, definitely not Rodney's. Looks pretty simple to replicate, though. Do you want some close up photos?

Tom


batousai666 MSG #483, 12-07-2009 05:50 AM
      Tommy's back. what up T??
feeling better?? i thought you were painting your engine grill.
thus the hush hush. good to read you again. ooopppps...late!
bye,
Dan


Rick 88 MSG #484, 12-07-2009 10:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Rick,

I bought the MAP sensor cover here:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/049417.html

My twin strut system looks like it was custom made, definitely not Rodney's. Looks pretty simple to replicate, though. Do you want some close up photos?

Tom


Tom that would be great! I don't necessarily want to remove any of the factory parts. Do you know what the the struts are from? If not a length measuremet compressed and extended, plus a good shot of the ends and fasteners would help.


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #485, 12-07-2009 01:46 PM
      Rick, I sent you an e-mail with the pics and info.
Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #486, 12-07-2009 03:44 PM
      Went to the Wickenburg cruz-in on Sunday. It was a great show, lots of rods and classics--no Fieros or Meras. There was an F-car, not in the show, and I took some pics

If your headlight lids look like this, you may not have a Mera:


This looks like gel coat checkering--this car may have been one of the first 700 Scaglietti plastic GTBs. I didn't touch it, but I did sneak a knuckle knock and it didn't sound like metal--couldn't find the owner. This car had glass quarters; I believe all GTBs were hard tops and had glass quarters, and all GTSs were Targas and had grille quarters--comments?


I like these Campognolo rims--well not these particular ones:


And finally the fender badge--it had some dimension like those raised vinyl stick-ons. This was one was metal--yeah, I snuck a touch. Wonder if anyone makes the raised ones to order.


Rick 88 MSG #487, 12-07-2009 08:12 PM
      There is a gray Mera on Rodney's Mera site that has headlight covers like the Ferrari above (part smooth, part ribbed). I like the look. Do you know who made these covers, or if they are even still available?

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #488, 12-07-2009 09:02 PM
      rick i am making a second headlight mold and playing with the headlight grill and covers a little to make my non mera headlights similar to the grey one you speak of. thanks, mike

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #489, 12-08-2009 12:32 AM
      If you want to look like the F-car above, you will have to change the hood also. My car has only two louvers, black, to the rear of the lid. The total louvered section is only about half the length of the lid + louvered section on the F-car.

Additionally, the F-308 GTS, which is really closer in appearance to the Mera than the GTB because of the grilled quarter/sail panel, has a black louvered section between the headlights--also a pretty good indicator of a non-Mera kit. I could be wrong.


batousai666 MSG #490, 12-08-2009 04:47 PM
      man, that "F-car". has seen better days. seems like that cracking may be Bondo. looks real deep in there.

saw an old Top Gear the other day and they were panning down from a ceiling shot to floor, focused on what i thought was a Mera.
turns out they were comparing the horsepower of an old 308 to a new Renult or some other small "box" car.
it was a Vauxall. thats it.
almost had a kid with all the glee. puckered right up, that i did.

also if one wanted their Mera to appear more 308 then they would add that grill between the headlights.
actually i think in the archives theres a thread about removing the center grill to appear more stock Mera.

in other words, someone took a real Mera and cut between the headlights and installed the grill. INSANE.
later, I smell 'taders
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #491, 12-08-2009 05:14 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

http://videos.streetfire.ne...Cylinders_721558.htm



Say Holmes, thanks for this link. tis awesome.
that 3800 supercharged sounds amazing.. and looks real quick.
still not sold yet on the V8 for Mera X. this video helps.
D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #492, 12-09-2009 11:18 AM
      Dan,

I agree, the 3800 is enticing, AND, it really looks cool! The N* looks cool, too.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #493, 12-09-2009 03:23 PM
      One of my 88 MERAs has a 3800 SC Series III engine with a N* TB, intercooler, XP cam, 5 speed Getrag, and a modular pulley (currently 3.4"). This car is very fast and still gets relatively decent gas mileage. I like this mod and highly recommend it.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Dan,

I agree, the 3800 is enticing, AND, it really looks cool! The N* looks cool, too.




batousai666 MSG #494, 12-09-2009 04:38 PM
      say Nelson? what kinda horsepower you gettin'?? i was lookin at a series II.
anything over 270 hp or so, should be quite a mover. eh??

well i am gonna go play in the snow. we are supposed to get a blizzard tonight or something so i best get
used to it now. later,
Daniel
P.S. say REHolmes? Richard if i may? got any full pics. of that "F-car"? PM me or something if you do. i love the 308's. thanks

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #495, 12-09-2009 05:13 PM
      No, posted all the pics I took, BUT, there is a great site for pics of F-cars:

http://www.conceptcarz.com/...odel/47/Ferrari.aspx

Dick


batousai666 MSG #496, 12-10-2009 05:42 PM
      here's a little bump for my Paradise home crew. Esp. Tommy (Mera In Paradise). lookie what i got.
yesterday:



and TODAY!


notice the grill. buried!!
we like to call it Lake Enhanced. all 8-9 inches of it.
with the wind and temp. of 13 or so. i (we) got a Lake Effect BLIZZARD today.
don't get me wrong, I love the snow. not complaining, just sayin.
later
Daniel


batousai666 MSG #497, 12-10-2009 05:43 PM
      ohhh yeah. Richard? that Ferrari link is awesome..
thanks..
will be there for months....
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #498, 12-10-2009 07:15 PM
      What is this--function? Rear corners of hood. OBTW, the red is a reflection from the outer body.



hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #499, 12-10-2009 10:30 PM
      I have not dynoed the engine but it started with a base 260 HP engine. Then you add the IC, cam, 3.4 pulley, N*TB, large exhaust, etc. and I expect the rating to be 300 hp plus. This will be my middle sized engine. The 87 has a 3.4 L push rod engine with turbo and around 7 psi of boost. The other 88 will get a built 383 that dynoed at around 440 hp per the report.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

say Nelson? what kinda horsepower you gettin'?? i was lookin at a series II.
anything over 270 hp or so, should be quite a mover. eh??

well i am gonna go play in the snow. we are supposed to get a blizzard tonight or something so i best get
used to it now. later,
Daniel
P.S. say REHolmes? Richard if i may? got any full pics. of that "F-car"? PM me or something if you do. i love the 308's. thanks





Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #500, 12-11-2009 04:50 AM
      Dick, I believe those holes under the front hood are for the safety pins.



In a front end accident, it prevents the front hood from being slammed through the windshield and into the passenger compartment...and doing very bad things to your neck.

Hey Dan...what's all that white stuff??!! Hmmm...nice, balmy 78 deg weather today, waves are pumping on the North Shore with the ongoing surfing competition. LOL...it was a bit chilly this morning...got down to 68 deg! Burrrrrrr.....

Kidding aside, it does look really pretty. I always liked the snow when I was living back East. I just hated driving in it. And shoveling it. And scrapping the windshield. And warming up the car. And when it froze over, slugging through the crunchy snow. And messing up my Bostonian wingtips when it got slushy. And breaking my arm on a car's side mirror (of all things) when I slipped on black ice. And seeing my POS Ford Escort turn into three buckets of rust after two winters. But I digress....

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #501, 12-11-2009 12:47 PM
      Thanks, Tom,

Very logical, and looking up in the slot I can see that there is a spring pin capture device--once caught it stays caught.

Dick


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #502, 12-11-2009 03:56 PM
      Ya think?

http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-...R-W0QQAdIdZ164723020


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #503, 12-11-2009 05:19 PM
      I guess that there is some possibility of it being the 1986 prototype but I would not bet on it based on these two pictures.

Nelson


batousai666 MSG #504, 12-11-2009 05:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Ya think?

http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-...R-W0QQAdIdZ164723020



that front bumper and clip looks weird and the black louver looks queer.
also the front, from bumper to wheel well looks short and the back looks too long.
I vote no Mera.
plus the obviuos hood grill and them rims
and 1986???? 3 strikes out its out.
will trade for a Viper? good luck!
My 2 cents.
D

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batousai666 MSG #505, 12-11-2009 05:28 PM
      hey, Tom?
sorry for bringing up what seems to be a touchy spot for the said "white stuff" hahahahaha...
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #506, 12-11-2009 06:07 PM
      barring the outside chance of this being the "86" proto.
the headlight covers look to have only 9-10 louvers, i count 12 from a photo on mine. its too cold to go check for sure.
but would make sence if it does not have the 2 piece type as per MERA!
how 'bout that??
i want more pics. may try tomarrow.
D

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batousai666 MSG #507, 12-11-2009 07:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I have not dynoed the engine but it started with a base 260 HP engine. Then you add the IC, cam, 3.4 pulley, N*TB, large exhaust, etc. and I expect the rating to be 300 hp plus. This will be my middle sized engine. The 87 has a 3.4 L push rod engine with turbo and around 7 psi of boost. The other 88 will get a built 383 that dynoed at around 440 hp per the report.

Nelson




them's some nice numbers. thanks, Nelson.
I hope to get there someday?? 440 hp is insane. i like it!
speaking of horsepower
MIKE!!! ohhh....Mera7...??
where you at Rock?? where you at??
got any noises yet?? no pressure or anything.
Dan

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Rick 88 MSG #508, 12-12-2009 08:56 AM
      Guys, there are some pics of my recently acquired 88 Mera, along with my 88 GT on page 5 of "Another Katatak Fiero Adventure" I did not know he was posting them, so the car is not really detailed. I still have a lot of cleaning to do. Let me know what you think on this thread.

Rick 88


batousai666 MSG #509, 12-12-2009 10:09 AM
      hope you do not mind Rick 88 but, BAM!












sorry, but this is the only "allowed" Mera thread. now you are here also.
..."one of us"....."one of us".... welcome. your car looks sweet!

is that nose badge orginial??
also could you post your last 5 Vin #'s??
will add to my list of Meras. for a tracking formula i am working on. thanks.
this is maybe the first fully Mera car i have seen that was just aquired??
all stock from what i can see in these pics.
got any more??
Dan

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #510, 12-12-2009 11:41 AM
      Dano, good job moving the pics over! LOL...too cold to go outside!?

Rick...wow, congrats on a nice find! Now THAT is one of the nicest, pristine, original-looking Mera's I've seen! Even has the original 88-style leather seats.

Unfortunately I don't have the time nor computer expertise, but just a thought...would be nice if someone had a MCA web site. MCA = Mera Club of Amerca.


batousai666 MSG #511, 12-12-2009 01:27 PM
      Happy Holidaze, freaks!







D

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batousai666 MSG #512, 12-12-2009 01:39 PM
      just noticed. And on page # 13?? (see post # total=666). .............oooweeoooo!!!!
at least today is the 12th. and a Saturday. gonna go play the lottery. seems to be my day.
"no, I ani't supersititious...."
post of a black cat also, his name is Takkun

D

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Rick 88 MSG #513, 12-12-2009 07:56 PM
      Dan, no worries on moving the pics. I really need to learn how to do this stuff. You left out the pic of my yellow 88 GT...but it was a far away shot. I have had "Mellow Yellow" for about 10 years. He is one of only 241 produced. I did not know my buddy Katatak was going to post pictures them so it was a suprise to me. To answer your question, yes that is the original nose badge. It is showing it's age but I already have a replacement thanks to Tom.

Tom, this car drove me nuts. I originally thought the owner had converted an 88 GT. I almost purchased another Mera, because I did not believe this one was real. It has the GT steering wheel, factory Performance Sound, and factory 88 leather. Everything I had read was that all 88's were Formula's, not GT's. After communicating with Rodney, I found out that when the article about 88 Mera's was written, he was unaware of 88 GT's being converted. He now says that some 88 GT's were converted. How many, I don't know. This is the first one I have ever seen. My car is titled as an 88 GT and has the GT VIN. (Dan I will get that for you soon.) If anyone else on Pennocks has an 88 GT Mera, I would like to see your car.

I am the second owner of the car. The title I have was issued to the original owner from the selling dealer. It is number 8011 per the id emblem under the decklid. That makes it the 11th 88 produced, and the 99th production Mera. (Thanks to Tom for that info.) The nose emblem is an 87. I guess when the car was built, the 88 gold emblems were not yet available. So, the replacement emblem is also an 87 to be correct for this car. Tom, when my car is as clean as yours, I will post more pictures. I need to install the gas struts you sent me info on. I also need to install the C6 exhaust tips, and dump the "Pep Boys" set currently on the car. It is rolling on very nice condition Gatorbacks, but I am concerned because of the age of the tires. The are not cracked but I think I will replace them with fresh rubber to give me peace of mind. I don't want to have a blowout and damage bodywork or Cromadoras.

I will have lots of questions for you Mera experts. Perhaps we can start a "Show off your Mera's" thread............


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #514, 12-13-2009 12:30 AM
      hello all, i am back from vacation in sante fe new mexico tonight. happy motoring. mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #515, 12-13-2009 07:46 AM
      morning all.
i am sure, early 88 Meras had the 87 nose. nice snag.
this is a middle ground Mera.
where all the "bugs" have or will be ironed out for the rest of then to be more alike.
did this car come from Henderson, Nevada?
i think i saw this for sale.
bring on the questions.. we are ready. i am sure that the others here have some answers also.
Daniel

P.S. as far as the "Mera show off thread", this is it. we were told to keep the Mera threads to a miminum of one.
so it seems that we all piled on to Tommy's thread. at least all the info. collected is in one spot.
ohh....as far as your "Mellow Yellow". sorry, not Mera, so i cannot allow it on a Mera thread. hahahahaha...
laters.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #516, 12-13-2009 12:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hello all, i am back from vacation in sante fe new mexico tonight. happy motoring. mike in oklahoma


I'm jealous! We lived in New Mexico for 5 years--it is truly an enchanted place.

I understand they switched to mostly Formulas later in the '88 run--appears #11 qualifies as early. OBTW, my #46 has the same nose badge.

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batousai666 MSG #517, 12-13-2009 03:25 PM
      ever wonder if any of your 88's has the last silver badge or the first gold badge??
i do and i have an '87.
if we find this out on here that would be cool. .....EH?
this will be a new hunt! call out the dogs....
so far Richard's #8046 is the last (known) silver badge '88? right?
ohhhhh... yeah. whoops, wait if #8046 is silver?
Thomas. You may (if you want stock) have to put a silver on. the gold does look good on your car, tho.
i gotta go in the archives, Later
D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #518, 12-13-2009 06:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


ohhhhh... yeah. whoops, wait if #8046 is silver?




Yes



Rick 88 MSG #519, 12-13-2009 06:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hello all, i am back from vacation in sante fe new mexico tonight. happy motoring. mike in oklahoma


My wife and I were in Santa Fe two weeks ago. Stayed at the Inn on the Paseo. We had a great time exploring Canyon Road, and bought some really nice silver pieces from the Indian Jewlers on the Plaza. BTW the Margaritas at '"Tomasita's" will knock you on your a**. The Blue Corn Enchiladas at Maria's are great, but HOT!!


Rick 88 MSG #520, 12-13-2009 06:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


I'm jealous! We lived in New Mexico for 5 years--it is truly an enchanted place.

I understand they switched to mostly Formulas later in the '88 run--appears #11 qualifies as early. OBTW, my #46 has the same nose badge.



I have not see a picture of your car. Do you have some posted?


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #521, 12-13-2009 09:11 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


ohhhhh... yeah. whoops, wait if #8046 is silver?




Yes



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #522, 12-13-2009 09:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


My wife and I were in Santa Fe two weeks ago. Stayed at the Inn on the Paseo. We had a great time exploring Canyon Road, and bought some really nice silver pieces from the Indian Jewlers on the Plaza. BTW the Margaritas at '"Tomasita's" will knock you on your a**. The Blue Corn Enchiladas at Maria's are great, but HOT!!


Stop it! Stop it!

Yeah, I have a couple on page two--one side-on and one of the interior.

Dick


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #523, 12-14-2009 10:10 AM
      Interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/yexo7gk


batousai666 MSG #524, 12-14-2009 04:54 PM
      man theres a lot of movies with Fieros.
I wanna see a race between a Lambo and FieroX on a supercar show. Top Gear or SuperCars Exposed any of them... and see if they would be interested. Problem is, if our FieroX wins it makes the $$$$$ cars look bad....The "its a Fiero" thing....
anyway if FieroX's challenge is accepted and he gets on, we,(I definitely) will show up, uninvited and beg to be on as an X supporter..
to get MeraX on there as well.....I want to meet the STIG....w/ his helmut on... that is my new goal...
ohhh...man, FIERO X -VS- the STIG......YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....SO AWESOME!
D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #525, 12-14-2009 04:57 PM
      FYI

http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/1508721225.html


batousai666 MSG #526, 12-14-2009 05:07 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

FYI

http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/1508721225.html

Here they come...... but so soon?
this bring a question.
are Mera/308 splash off' molds a little bigger then said Mera org. mold.
that make sence?
their new mold is the size of our cars now? (hopefully).....soo the panel they sell is a panel thickness bigger, right?
ohhhh a clue.
Dan




mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #527, 12-14-2009 07:35 PM
      dan my molds are actual mera panel molds, the molds listed on craigslist are ferrari 328 origin. likely will be some differences. mike in oklahoma

Rick 88 MSG #528, 12-14-2009 09:36 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Stop it! Stop it!

Yeah, I have a couple on page two--one side-on and one of the interior.

Dick


Found em.....nice car! What kind of wheels do you have on it?


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #529, 12-15-2009 12:00 AM
      Don't have the faintest idea--guess I could contact the previous (previous) owner--I bought the car from Paul V, who was a pass-through from Bob Anderson who owned the car for at least 10 years. I have looked for identifying marks, but couldn't find any. I will take a wheel off one of these days to check the back surface. they appear to be steel rims with cast centers. I'll take a pic and post it--maybe tomorrow.

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batousai666 MSG #530, 12-15-2009 05:48 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

dan my molds are actual mera panel molds, the molds listed on craigslist are ferrari 328 origin. likely will be some differences. mike in oklahoma



hey Mike,
whats happening? welcome back.
understood that your molds are mera.
my question is for the "slash off" panels.
the word splash is misleading me to think that they are top molded off an old panel. so in my eyes they would be a panel thickness bigger.
in hindsight it is probabally not so.
got to go, later
Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #531, 12-15-2009 02:20 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

What kind of wheels do you have on it?


Here's a pic:



I'm pleased with the look, but don't know if they have any pedigree.


Rick 88 MSG #532, 12-15-2009 08:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Here's a pic:



I'm pleased with the look, but don't know if they have any pedigree.

They look like a Campagnolo, but it would be marked on the wheel like the Cromodoras. Please tell me where you got the center caps, and their diameter????? I neeeeed these!


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #533, 12-15-2009 09:41 PM
      those look like ferrari 308 rims or fiat bertone rims by campagnolo. if you take one off and look on the back it will be marked the size and bolt pattern and likely the maker name. mike in oklahoma

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #534, 12-15-2009 11:47 PM
      Close but no cupie doll--though could be. Here is a Compagnolo from an early Scaglietti (plastic) 308



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #535, 12-16-2009 10:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Here's a pic:



I'm pleased with the look, but don't know if they have any pedigree.


There are probably Team III wheels. Made in the USA. Are they 15 or 16"?



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #536, 12-16-2009 02:29 PM
      15". Judging from early photos, these wheels have been on the car since '93.

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #537, 12-16-2009 04:18 PM
      rodney where could we find a set of those? thanks, mike in oklahoma

Rick 88 MSG #538, 12-16-2009 04:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


There are probably Team III wheels. Made in the USA. Are they 15 or 16"?




Team III, are they still in business?

Rodney how about posting a listing of Mera accessories you have for sale on this thread. You previously mentioned having Mera emblems and wheel caps, but I do not see them on you website. I would be interested in someone making "MERA GTS" brake caliper decals. Also, what else do we need to purchase and from where, in order to have a complete bumper assembly using your replacement front bumper?


IMSA GT (drumwzrd@comcast.net) MSG #539, 12-16-2009 07:42 PM
      I'm not going to butt in here too much but......
http://www.tyresave.co.uk/alloyjag.html


Rick 88 MSG #540, 12-16-2009 10:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IMSA GT:

I'm not going to butt in here too much but......
http://www.tyresave.co.uk/alloyjag.html


I wonder if they offer them in 5x100 also? Shipping might be a little pricey too.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #541, 12-16-2009 11:31 PM
      Another interesting site--scroll about 3/4 down the page. Don't know if these are Compagniolo, but there appears to be similar stamp in the rim.

http://www.ferraripartsexchange.com/wheels.htm


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #542, 12-17-2009 04:43 AM
      Those wheels are interesting finds. Would probably require adaptors and hubcentric inserts, and then I wonder if the offset would be correct.

Interesting...if we assume that perhaps 100 Mera's are left on the road today, what happened to all those Chromodora rims that were special-made for the Mera? LOL...probably gracing a lot of 308 kitcars, I imagine. Once in a great while, you will see them pop up on e-bay, just like the original Vitaloni powered mirrors. I think I've seen the wheels twice in my on-line lifetime. I'm sure there are some sets just collecting dust out there somewhere in someone's garage or basement.

Now that it's winter (at least for you guys on the mainland) I'm hoping that more Mera owners will have the time to add to this thread and post pics of their cars. I know there are more Mera owners on PFF!

As for me, holding off on the grill work for now. Definitely on the things to do list, though. Still want to get mats, but I may have to just settle for lettering. The cost to add the Mera logo is just too cost prohibitive for one set.

I think my next project wil be one that Rick and I discussed off-line...redoing that plate thingy that is between the trunk and body, that covers the real tail lights. Mine is a one piece sheet of aluminum that was covered with what looks like black vinyl. Over time, and with heat, it has about a bajillion tiny air bubbles, so now it has an alligator skin texture. At first, I was thinking about redoing the aluminum sheet. But now I'm thinking of just leaving it in place, and instead using 1/4" plywood and naugahyde to make a nice padded cover that can just sit right on top of the aluminum sheet. Opinions???

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #543, 12-17-2009 10:37 AM
      My "thingy" slides under the trunk compartment seal, if you added 1/4" of plywood it might be too thick. You can probably buy ready quilted Naugahyde, and I'm sure Trim Tack would hold it to the aluminum sheet.

Dick

Winter's tough, I've got to find someplace in Mexico to hibernate. Phoenix has been getting down in the thirties at night, and only 70s during the day--com'on summer! Fortunately in a couple months it will be here.


Rick 88 MSG #544, 12-17-2009 11:21 AM
      Don't complain....It has snowed twice here in El Paso already!!!! My blood it to thin for this cold weather. I figured I'd go to Phoenix to hibernate. Although today the weather is really nice, and I am off..woo hoo!

Rick 88 MSG #545, 12-17-2009 11:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Another interesting site--scroll about 3/4 down the page. Don't know if these are Compagniolo, but there appears to be similar stamp in the rim.

http://www.ferraripartsexchange.com/wheels.htm


I like the look of the all magnesium competition wheels, (not the price). I wonder how our cars would look with the wheels powercoated to look like these. Then we could put a Mera "Scuderia" emblem on the front fenders.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #546, 12-17-2009 12:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by zigaroo:

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Here's the second one with a black bg,

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You can get chrome vinyl and others, like carbon fiber for instance. You're going to want vinyl that has a 5 year life expectancy or longer.


Whoops, guess the images are gone--see page 7 at the bottom--guess you could bump that up here, I don't know how to.

I really like the one on the right. I wonder if you could get that made in the "puffy" vinyl to look like the cloisonnes that are on the earlier F-cars.

Yeah, it gets cold in El Paso, must be the elevation, but the sunny days make up for it.

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Rick 88 MSG #547, 12-17-2009 06:19 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Whoops, guess the images are gone--see page 7 at the bottom--guess you could bump that up here, I don't know how to.

I really like the one on the right. I wonder if you could get that made in the "puffy" vinyl to look like the cloisonnes that are on the earlier F-cars.

Yeah, it gets cold in El Paso, must be the elevation, but the sunny days make up for it.



I am sure someone could make them with the clear vinyl overlay, but I don't think it would be worth it for the few we would need. A vinyl decal could be produced in small quantities. Did your wheels come with the Mera emblems? They look like they have clear vinyl overlays.


batousai666 MSG #548, 12-17-2009 06:20 PM
      you guys better quit all your cold complaining. just kiddin. it was 11 DEGREES this morning with a brisk wind of 10 mph.
i don't even want to know what the wind chill factor was....
for me southern KY is snowless and warm. hell even Iowa gets way less snow. I love snow.
also nice to know ya' all have that alum. plate in back with the quilting....
mine has been out for months, easier to take pictures for questions/answers.
Later
Dan
P.S. an observation on the Cromodoras.... with the fact, early 87 Mera's did not have them rims.....
people seeking that "look" bought them for, either a percieved Mera OEM thing or a Ferrari look thing. Me 2 Cent.
ohhh just noticed its snowing on the post writing page.
even in a *EDIT* cool

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #549, 12-17-2009 11:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Did your wheels come with the Mera emblems? They look like they have clear vinyl overlays.


I've had the car only 3 months--haven't changed anything. I do have photos going back to '93, and these are the wheels that were on the car. I can take a closer look at the center cap, but don't know if I could tell how it was constructed.

Just looked--they do have a "plastic-y" feel to them.

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Rick 88 MSG #550, 12-18-2009 09:51 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

you guys better quit all your cold complaining. just kiddin. it was 11 DEGREES this morning with a brisk wind of 10 mph.
i don't even want to know what the wind chill factor was....
for me southern KY is snowless and warm. hell even Iowa gets way less snow. I love snow.
also nice to know ya' all have that alum. plate in back with the quilting....
mine has been out for months, easier to take pictures for questions/answers.
Later
Dan
P.S. an observation on the Cromodoras.... with the fact, early 87 Mera's did not have them rims.....
people seeking that "look" bought them for, either a percieved Mera OEM thing or a Ferrari look thing. Me 2 Cent.
ohhh just noticed its snowing on the post writing page.
even in a *EDIT* cool



The 87's were equipped with the stock lace wheels painted to match the car from everything I have read. The one owner 87 here in El Paso was purchased new with Compomotive wheels. The dealer had replaced the stock ones. They have a slightly different look from the Cromodoras much like the the 308 wheels pictures in this thread. However they are not painted, just natural aluminum finish.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #551, 12-18-2009 10:55 AM
      Here's a set for sale--$1200



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #552, 12-18-2009 11:14 AM
      The greatest Fiero story ever!
http://jalopnik.com/5429173...dying-teen-last-wish


Rick 88 MSG #553, 12-18-2009 04:02 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Here's a set for sale--$1200



That does not look like a Fiero.........


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #554, 12-18-2009 05:24 PM
      those look like oem mondial wheels but who knows. they are on a ferrari in the pic so i would assume they are 5x108 like almost all ferraris. mike in oklahoma

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #555, 12-19-2009 12:10 AM
      Right, these are OEM wheels, I think off a Testa. As for the pic, I've never seen a Testarossa/Fiero kit so I assume it's an F-car--at any rate I couldn't find a pic from a 308.

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batousai666 MSG #556, 12-20-2009 09:33 AM
      check these pictures out.
the stupid needle is going backwards. its 7 degs.



at least the sun was out.
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these pics are for the last day of the fall photo contest thread you all should punch a Fall MERA pic of your own in today.
Meras, represent.
also theres a prize, a set of them GT wheel's i have been wantin'. I gotta win.
later
Daniel


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #557, 12-20-2009 10:20 AM
      Wish I had your barn--without the snow!

OBTW, nice car,

Dick

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batousai666 MSG #558, 12-23-2009 04:31 PM
      how'd we get on page 3?
i'll fix that
ctrlV

thats better.
D



batousai666 MSG #559, 12-23-2009 04:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Wish I had your barn--without the snow!

OBTW, nice car,

Dick




looks like we need an old fashioned barn raising in AZ. i'll put on my bibs and fetch the horses.
you supply the moon and AZ sun-shine. we get at 'em, done. .
say maybe around Feb. 3rd or so. This is when the "winter blahs start for me.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #560, 12-23-2009 04:56 PM
      since we are on the subject of garages....I was thinking of turning my carport into a
garage with a roll up door on the face here. maybe even 2, for the drive thru effect. YEAH!


with an automatic swinging barn type door here



that will enclose it on two/three sides with the house in the back for a "final wall".
throw up a fence from the carport to my side neighbors fence.
enclosed the back yard of the house, for a car corral.
this will allow me to get 3 or more cars sheltered/purchased, because this here


holds 3 even possibly 4.
wonder if the Mera would fit in the workshop????
so many ideas and no time till the next lay off.
Later
D

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Rick 88 MSG #561, 12-23-2009 08:13 PM
      Next time why don't you get a RED car.....

Page 15.....Ownage!

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Rick 88 MSG #562, 12-23-2009 08:16 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


I've had the car only 3 months--haven't changed anything. I do have photos going back to '93, and these are the wheels that were on the car. I can take a closer look at the center cap, but don't know if I could tell how it was constructed.

Just looked--they do have a "plastic-y" feel to them.



Your "Mera" center caps came from Rodney back in the day.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #563, 12-23-2009 08:59 PM
      Take a close look and you may be able to tell the original MERA center caps from Rodney's replica ones. The original center caps that I acquired have a transparent vinyl base with the black circle/MERA letters. Rodney's current ones (and maybe the original replicas) have the black letters/circle on a silver background.

Nelson


Rick 88 MSG #564, 12-23-2009 09:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Take a close look and you may be able to tell the original MERA center caps from Rodney's replica ones. The original center caps that I acquired have a transparent vinyl base with the black circle/MERA letters. Rodney's current ones (and maybe the original replicas) have the black letters/circle on a silver background.

Nelson


Nelson, were these caps for the stock 87 lace wheels? My Cromodora's just have a spun aluminum center cap, or the large plastic pop in disc.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #565, 12-24-2009 12:18 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Take a close look and you may be able to tell the original MERA center caps from Rodney's replica ones. The original center caps that I acquired have a transparent vinyl base with the black circle/MERA letters. Rodney's current ones (and maybe the original replicas) have the black letters/circle on a silver background.

Nelson


Would you post a pic.


batousai666 MSG #566, 12-24-2009 05:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

Next time why don't you get a RED car.....

Page 15.....Ownage!




you know its funny.
i never set out to buy a red car they just came that way
the Trans Am i saw for sale on the side of the road for $7900. offered $4000 and he accepted.
the Jeep was aquired after they (the dealer) sold the Z24 chevy i put $200 down on to someone else.
and the Mera, you all know the rest. so i never bought a red car per se, they just come to me that way.
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #567, 12-24-2009 08:59 AM
      you go dan, lol... nice cars

Rick 88 MSG #568, 12-24-2009 05:31 PM
      and the Mera, you all know the rest. so i never bought a red car per se, they just come to me that way.
Dan
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Actually, I don't know the rest. Tell me how you found your Mera. I am a late comer to the Mera fold.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #569, 12-25-2009 11:05 AM
      The original Mera center caps that I have came off an 88 with the lace type wheels. They were a spare set of wheels for Bob Bracey's wife's car that I bought a few years back when I lived in the Atlanta area. I will try to post a picture of them and see if the difference is obvious when compared to Rodney's reproduction stickers.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Nelson, were these caps for the stock 87 lace wheels? My Cromodora's just have a spun aluminum center cap, or the large plastic pop in disc.

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #570, 12-25-2009 11:26 AM
      MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!! MIKE IN OKLAHOMA

Rick 88 MSG #571, 12-25-2009 11:43 AM
      Merry Christmas!

Have a great day, and best wishes for the New Year.

Rick & Norma


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #572, 12-25-2009 11:49 AM
      Here are a couple of photos of the Rodney reproduction center cap sticker and an original MERA center cap. I hope that you can see the difference but it is not as clear in the photo as it is when seen with the naked eye. The Rodney decal has a silver/grey background and the original cap appears to have a transparent background over a polished center cap. The sticker is on the left and the original cap is on the right.

Nelson





Rick 88 MSG #573, 12-25-2009 11:56 AM
      So is that a stock lace center cap with a transparent vinyl overlay? Would these fit a Cromodora?

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #574, 12-25-2009 12:39 PM
     

Dick and Carole


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #575, 12-25-2009 08:21 PM
      I believe that the original MERA center cap for the lace type wjeels is a transparent vinyl overlay installed on a polished center cap. This cap will not fit the Chromadora rims and appears to be slightly too short for the end clips to engage the wheel. I would like a measurement of the center cap depth that is used with the Chromadora rims so that I can get a couple of sets for my wheels. A source would also be very nice to lessen the search time.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:

So is that a stock lace center cap with a transparent vinyl overlay? Would these fit a Cromodora?




Rick 88 MSG #576, 12-25-2009 09:38 PM
      The center caps on my Cromadora's are a spun aluminum disc mounted to a plastic retainer. 2.25 in. diamater and 5/8 deep. They are a compression press fit with 20 individual tabs. The only identifing markings on the backside are the letters "PA" with an oval around the letters. Anyone else have these on their Cromadora's?


Rick 88 MSG #577, 12-26-2009 10:08 AM
      Have any of you lowered the front of you Mera's? Mine has the typical 88 large tire to fender gap. What did you use, lowering springs, cut stock springs, dropped ball joints? I am running stock 15's so I am afraid the dropped ball joints will cause interference. I know I can run a taller tire also. Anyone doing this?

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #578, 12-26-2009 11:51 AM
      The 87 is lowered quite a bit using a Fiero Store lowering kit. I like the look and it drives fine but it is somewhat difficult to handle speed bumps and getting out of my driveway without scraping. One of my 88s has Rodney's one inch lowering ball joints and I have no problems with that car. Both of the vehicles have 265 x 50 x 15 shoes all the way around.

Nelson


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #579, 12-26-2009 12:22 PM
      FYI

http://inlandempire.craigsl.../cto/1510268454.html


Rick 88 MSG #580, 12-26-2009 05:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

The 87 is lowered quite a bit using a Fiero Store lowering kit. I like the look and it drives fine but it is somewhat difficult to handle speed bumps and getting out of my driveway without scraping. One of my 88s has Rodney's one inch lowering ball joints and I have no problems with that car. Both of the vehicles have 265 x 50 x 15 shoes all the way around.

Nelson


Does the 88 with the lowering ball joints have the 15 in Chromadoras?


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #581, 12-26-2009 08:26 PM
     

Yes it does.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Does the 88 with the lowering ball joints have the 15 in Chromadoras?




Rick 88 MSG #582, 12-26-2009 10:09 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:
Yes it does.



Great! Did you also use shorter springs? Or is this enough to make it look better. My car seems to have a large gap, but I have 245/50's on the front. Do you have close up pics of that particular car with the lowering ball joint?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #583, 12-27-2009 10:55 AM
      rick another option is adjustable coil overs. thats what my car has. mike in oklahoma

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #584, 12-27-2009 01:01 PM
      I have gone to adjustable coilovers on the rear of the 88 MERA and have Rodney's lowering ball joints on the front of this car. I will try to get some pictures later today and post them on PFF. The rear coilovers are not at the lowest position at this time but the car handles well.

Nelson

Front Wheel Wells (1" Rodney lowering ball joints)




Rear Wheel Wells (coil overs)

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Rick 88 MSG #585, 12-27-2009 10:20 PM
      I have never considered coil overs. Is there a kit available, or do you have to fabricate it for the 88? Mike can you post pics of you set up? Would a stock spring with one coil removed and lowering ball joints drop the front too much? I can slip my hand sideways between the top of the 245/50 and the fender lip. About 4.25 inches. I'd like to drop it two inches if possible on the front.

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #586, 12-28-2009 03:15 PM
      Hmmm. . . . Ya' reckon?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=015&category=6419


Indiana_resto_guy (crashdummy1997@gmail.com) MSG #587, 12-28-2009 05:46 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Hmmm. . . . Ya' reckon?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=015&category=6419


A chance for some of you to double up!!


batousai666 MSG #588, 12-28-2009 06:24 PM
      this is the 2nd time around for this one.
is gots dee screw ons.
dont like the headlight covers....ect......say, is that not the Fiero Mirror controller???
sure went to a lot of trouble to turn it back to Fiero from stock Mera, I mean right???
could it be Ferrari???

it is great for a 308 replicar. but too hard to turn back to MERA.
i'll pass...nice sticker tho..
Daniel

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #589, 12-28-2009 11:53 PM
      i think rodney says thats a real mera by vin, but im with you dan too much to have to turn back into mera.

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #590, 12-29-2009 02:57 PM
      I used 300 pound springs but do not remember the actual uncompressed length. I am using 265 x 50 x 15 tires on all corners if you want to compare the pictures recently posted on PFF to your vehicle. Note that my coil overs are not currently set to the lowest position.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Great! Did you also use shorter springs? Or is this enough to make it look better. My car seems to have a large gap, but I have 245/50's on the front. Do you have close up pics of that particular car with the lowering ball joint?




batousai666 MSG #591, 12-29-2009 05:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

i think rodney says thats a real mera by vin, but im with you dan too much to have to turn back into mera.



WORD!
well not for you Mike. with them new parts it may be something to consider yourself, friend.
the sticker is key.
It is more Mera than mine
your parts are for.... us the Mera "keepers" so to speak. or for replacements should the worst high speed head on.....i'll stop.
would be a great show piece for the "upstairs showroom"....hahahaha, thought i would forget that???
now you can get 2 cars you will/can NOT drive...just jokin'
speaking of #7071. hows it going??? any updates? or is that "Mall" bussiness??? i am off to look, Later
Dan

*EDIT* Mike?? i bumped your Mall thread to the front..sawright?sawright!

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Rick 88 MSG #592, 12-29-2009 07:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I have gone to adjustable coilovers on the rear of the 88 MERA and have Rodney's lowering ball joints on the front of this car. I will try to get some pictures later today and post them on PFF. The rear coilovers are not at the lowest position at this time but the car handles well.

Nelson

Front Wheel Wells (1" Rodney lowering ball joints)




Rear Wheel Wells (coil overs)





Nelson,

Thanks for the pictures. But now, I am even more confused. The tire/fender gap on yours looks car looks much more acceptable. However I can't see how a one inch lowering ball joint dropping my car enough to look the same as yours. Are you sure your front springs are stock height? Also, why do your 265/50/15's look narrower than my 245/50 Gatorbacks? My front tires bulge out excessively around the wheel viewed from the side.

I have found that a 215/60/15 is 99% or the diamater of my 265/50/15's rears using a tire size comparator. I think the narrower tire will steer easier at low speeds than the 245's, and not bulge out as much on the wheel.

Have you had any luck on center caps for the Cromodora's yet?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #593, 12-29-2009 11:53 PM
      dan, 7071 is coming back together nicely. might be a while but i will post pics of before during and after once im finished with it. its a test mule right now along with my 88. mike in oklahoma

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #594, 12-30-2009 01:05 PM
      To the best of my knowledge, the front springs on the car are the original stock ones. All I did was replace the existing ball joints with Rodney's lowering BJs. As to why the front tires look thinner than yours, I have absolutely no idea. Unfortunately, I have not located any center caps for the Chromadora wheels but would appreciate it if anyone is successful in locating suitable ones and notifies me.

Nelson

 
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Originally posted by Rick 88:


Nelson,

Thanks for the pictures. But now, I am even more confused. The tire/fender gap on yours looks car looks much more acceptable. However I can't see how a one inch lowering ball joint dropping my car enough to look the same as yours. Are you sure your front springs are stock height? Also, why do your 265/50/15's look narrower than my 245/50 Gatorbacks? My front tires bulge out excessively around the wheel viewed from the side.

I have found that a 215/60/15 is 99% or the diamater of my 265/50/15's rears using a tire size comparator. I think the narrower tire will steer easier at low speeds than the 245's, and not bulge out as much on the wheel.

Have you had any luck on center caps for the Cromodora's yet?




reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #595, 01-01-2010 03:14 PM
      Early '88 GT vin

http://dallas.craigslist.or.../ctd/1532514218.html


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #596, 01-01-2010 09:11 PM
      nice looking car in dallas area....

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #597, 01-02-2010 03:28 PM
      After some further invsestigation, this vehicle is MERA 80002 and some of the MERA paperwork has been provided. None of the original badges and/or letters are apparently available and the asking price is right at $25,000.

Nelson

 
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Originally posted by reholmes:

Early '88 GT vin

http://dallas.craigslist.or.../ctd/1532514218.html




Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #598, 01-02-2010 06:50 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:
To the best of my knowledge, the front springs on the car are the original stock ones. All I did was replace the existing ball joints with Rodney's lowering BJs. As to why the front tires look thinner than yours, I have absolutely no idea. Unfortunately, I have not located any center caps for the Chromadora wheels but would appreciate it if anyone is successful in locating suitable ones and notifies me.


Interesting story with my 88 Mera:

Many years ago (maybe 12 or more now) I put lowering springs in front and rear in my 88 Mera. I have the OEM Goodyear Gatorbacks on my 88 Mera. I was lucky. The height was very nice. I was very happy with the look. Years later I decided to take the plunge and buy (then) Ryane (spelling?) drop spindles. I had the idea going back to the stock spring would give a better (smoother) ride and I would have more travel on the swing arms. They were fairly expensive but they were having a sale. Since I did not take any before height measurements I did not know how much my front end was lowered with these lowering springs. I called several 88 Mera owners and asked them to measure their front fender height. I averaged them out and came up with about 1 1/4 inch. So I had Rayne make me a pair at 1 1/4" drop. That was just a bit too much. In hindsight I would have been better off with a 1" drop. That 1/4" does not seem like much but it makes a difference with driveways etc. This is with the 15" rims and 245-50-15 Goodyear Gatorbacks.

PS: I think the Goodyear Gatorbacks are by far the best looking tire for the 88 Mera. When I bought my 88 Mera around 12-13 years ago I bought 2 extra sets of the Goodyear Gatorbacks because someone told me they no longer were making them. They were a bit hard to find the 265-50-15 rears but the 245-50-15 fronts were easy at that time to find. Plus here and there I bought other good used Gatorbacks. I just put on a new set of these Gatorbacks last year. New old stock. They still look like new. Stored them in plastic bags in my basement all these years.

Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera


Tom Slick (tom.slick@northtexasfieroclub.org) MSG #599, 01-04-2010 01:09 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by hnthomps:

After some further invsestigation, this vehicle is MERA 80002 and some of the MERA paperwork has been provided. None of the original badges and/or letters are apparently available and the asking price is right at $25,000.

Nelson



i would love to have this car, it's so close (location) and yet so far away (price).
is this car worth $25K (I know if someone is willing to pay then it is)?
i would go check this car out but it 1.5 hours away, then only time i would be even close to it would be after NTFC monthly meeting. if they still have it then i might swing by to look at it. if it's open on saturday.

thanks...

edit:
now i see the car listed on ebay for $19K

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batousai666 MSG #600, 01-04-2010 04:52 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Tom Slick:


i would love to have this car, it's so close (location) and yet so far away (price).
is this car worth $25K (I know if someone is willing to pay then it is)?
i would go check this car out but it 1.5 hours away, then only time i would be even close to it would be after NTFC monthly meeting. if they still have it then i might swing by to look at it. if it's open on saturday.

thanks...

edit:
now i see the car listed on ebay for $19K




bet it gets yanked for using the F-WORD too much
is that paint kinda "metallic" red?
i like that deep red metallic look, even if its an optical.
note to self, crimison metallic red.
later
D


batousai666 MSG #601, 01-04-2010 05:05 PM
      you know??, after looking (starring) at MERA #8002 i realize, the dark red color is a lighting optical.
but, that engine bay looks horrible. with the rust and all the whatiss. the most i would offer, after the in person tire kick, is $10,000 cash.
only cuz the 2nd '88 Mera made and the low miles. again, it better look good in person tho.
back to the starring.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #602, 01-04-2010 05:27 PM
      #700 post. man, and just to comment in cartoon panta-mime.....about this



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paced84 (84nd500@comcast.net) MSG #604, 01-04-2010 06:59 PM
      I have been following the MERA thread for some time now and this MERA for $20,00.00 should look like new not the way we see it now. Being a Ferrari enthusiast I would like to own a MERA in the future as I can not see a Ferrari in my future. I have some 600-700 articles from magazines, news papers and other sources for info on Fiero. I been looking for articles on MERA's but only have found some in Car and Driver, High Performance Pontiac and a couple in news papers. (Rodney would like to know if you have any Mera info I could add to my Fiero MERA collection?)

Ron T.
Fiero Historian



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #605, 01-04-2010 08:23 PM
      my power vitaloni mirrors are for sale on a live auction on ebay. no reserve reduced price for 2010 inventory reduction. thanks, mike in oklahoma ps for the future i will be closing out all my porsche and ferrari cars and parts. will be concentrating on meras and pro monster trucks only. mike

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #606, 01-05-2010 11:16 AM
      Been in holiday hibernation mode...

paced84, e-mail me, would like to compare notes and perhaps we can help each other out on Mera info.

Agree, that ain't worth $20K, especially in today's market. My paint job is not as nice as this one, but the rest is certainly nicer/cleaner (LOL...at least IMHO). I only have 28K mileage on mine, and I'd be happy to sell it for $12K.

Hey guys, I heard on this am's news of yet another cold(er) front moving through the CONUS. Be safe...and warm!

Gotta run to work.
Tom



Rick 88 MSG #607, 01-05-2010 12:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Been in holiday hibernation mode...

paced84, e-mail me, would like to compare notes and perhaps we can help each other out on Mera info.

Agree, that ain't worth $20K, especially in today's market. My paint job is not as nice as this one, but the rest is certainly nicer/cleaner (LOL...at least IMHO). I only have 28K mileage on mine, and I'd be happy to sell it for $12K.

Hey guys, I heard on this am's news of yet another cold(er) front moving through the CONUS. Be safe...and warm!

Gotta run to work.
Tom


Tom,

Your car should bring 12k easy. I would think more mid teens. The only issue is shipping to some place other than Hawaii...... I figure that would be pricey. As I recall yours is an automatic, correct? I just had to have a 5-speed.


Tom Slick (tom.slick@northtexasfieroclub.org) MSG #608, 01-05-2010 12:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:
Agree, that ain't worth $20K, especially in today's market. My paint job is not as nice as this one, but the rest is certainly nicer/cleaner (LOL...at least IMHO). I only have 28K mileage on mine, and I'd be happy to sell it for $12K.


hmmm... wonder how much shipping would be to the states (TX).


Rick 88 MSG #609, 01-05-2010 12:35 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Tom Slick:


i would love to have this car, it's so close (location) and yet so far away (price).
is this car worth $25K (I know if someone is willing to pay then it is)?
i would go check this car out but it 1.5 hours away, then only time i would be even close to it would be after NTFC monthly meeting. if they still have it then i might swing by to look at it. if it's open on saturday.

thanks...

edit:
now i see the car listed on ebay for $19K



Tom,

This car is in good, but far from excellent condition. Low miles are only a plus depending on how hard the miles were put on. This car is also not original paint. The paint code B8590L is for the bright red, not metallic red. I am not sure if any metallic red MERA's were produced.

My Mera has more mileage, but is much cleaner than this one. Also, it was an original owner car that was never altered with "Ferrari" badging. Some MERA badging is now hard to source if you plan to return the car to stock. The advantage you have is you could drive it home which will save you shipping costs. I had mine shipped half way across the country. Personally I would not go more than 15 to 16k as you don't have to pay for shipping. You will still have lots of detailing work ahead, and what ever "fixes" the car needs. As hard as these cars are to find, this one is still worth considering, but at a lower price.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #610, 01-05-2010 03:47 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Tom Slick:


hmmm... wonder how much shipping would be to the states (TX).


Tom,
Interestingly, this is the first Mera I made a serious attempt to buy, http://www.paradisecruisers...p?topic=13086.0;wap2 . I'll let you figure out who it belonged to. Never could hook up with the seller, but did some googling regarding shipping costs--sorry, didn't keep the quotes. Auto shipping is a lot like mail, it's a commodity and service is pretty consistent across carriers, and given the service you require, e.g. response time, enclosed carrier, etc. rates are similar. Whomever you "list" with, your requirements will go on the "big board" and carriers will contact you with their offer. I shipped a Mera from Chicago to Phoenix for about $650--picked up within a week and then a few days in transit. It arrived clean and undamaged.

Other advice--take your time and explore all possible sources. While I would have really liked to have had Tom's car--oops I gave it away--I found others that were pretty good buys. Having said that, I let a beauty slip through my fingers by being hesitant. I ended up buying through Paul Vargyas, a guy well known in the Fiero comminity, and so far, vary happy with the car--see http://home.xnet.com/~paulv/index.htm. OBTW, Paul is the "WFA" on Fiero prices.

Dick

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batousai666 MSG #611, 01-05-2010 06:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Been in holiday hibernation mode...

Hey guys, I heard on this am's news of yet another cold(er) front moving through the CONUS. Be safe...and warm!

Gotta run to work.
Tom



funny.....
this is what 0 degrees looks like mathmatically...



and speaking of rare,
there you are Thomas. hahahaha...sup??
seems that 1987 SE Fieros are in their own right rare, due to low production numbers.
less that 4000 SE's total. thing is, some of thems were 4cyl. huh?
guy says at a car show "out of 100 Fieros he was the only SE." Daytona i believe.
thats something...onto its self. cool.
this Mera thing keeps getting better....later

Dan

*EDIT* for....
ohhh i had Mera X shipped from FL via "portable parking lot" with that ding dong bid process... made it take longer,
but by comparison it seemed to shave a cool $500 plus for your patience.
so i waited 'pernt near 3 weeks for delivery after payment of car off e bay.
total price was $643 or so. not bad price and happy with the new arrival.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #612, 01-06-2010 12:17 AM
      I do not believe that the car is worth $25 K. If you want to pay me $25 K then I might consider selling my 87 Mera with a turbo 3.4 engine.

Nelson






 
quote
Originally posted by Tom Slick:


i would love to have this car, it's so close (location) and yet so far away (price).
is this car worth $25K (I know if someone is willing to pay then it is)?
i would go check this car out but it 1.5 hours away, then only time i would be even close to it would be after NTFC monthly meeting. if they still have it then i might swing by to look at it. if it's open on saturday.

thanks...

edit:
now i see the car listed on ebay for $19K

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #613, 01-06-2010 04:22 AM
      Per the Matson Navigation webpage, $1,072.00 to either Seattle, WA, or Long Beach or Oakland CA ports, from Honolulu. Not sure if they tack on HI tax to that. I am confident I could drive my Mera cross country.

I haven't had time to install this yet, hopefully soon though:



This is Rodney's Tru-Line Damper System, made specifically for the Mera due to the larger tires up front. This set is brand new, never installed. Rodney no longer makes these. This is probably the last new one in existence anywhere.

Also got a set of Fiero1Fan's low profile headlight buckets. I had them professionally powder-coated black. Still need funds to buy the lights and harness. I'm hoping to be the first one to have the round, low profile lights on a Mera.

Tom


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #614, 01-07-2010 12:36 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I do not believe that the car is worth $25 K. If you want to pay me $25 K then I might consider selling my 87 Mera with a turbo 3.4 engine.

Nelson


Nelson, that is one beauty! You have posted it before, wish you would stop rubbing our nose in it ;-)

What sort of horses does that engine put out?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #615, 01-07-2010 12:53 AM
      very nice car nelson.

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #616, 01-08-2010 11:04 AM
      Does anyone want to help me choose the exterior color of the last MERA that I have for restoration? It will have a Beechwood interior and I am thinking about either a British Racing Green or a Fly Yellow color. Right now I am leaning towards the BRG color. What other colors might also look good with this car?

Nelson


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #617, 01-08-2010 11:28 AM
      I really do not know the engine HP with this setup since I have never dynoed it. I am only using about 7 pounds of boost right now and do not have the car tuned to a fine point for maximum HP. I am conservative enough to want reliability over raw HP. I also have a couple other vehicles with larger engines if I really want to play. My best guess is that the engine will produce somewhere around 220 to 230 HP at this time.

My first 88 has a 3800 SC Series III engine with cam, N* TB, intercooler, 3.4 puley, cold air intake, etc. and pulls a lot harder than the 87. Here are a couple of photos of this vehicle.





That other 88 MERA will have a 383 engine that has been dynoed at 440 HP and will be a beast and a half. This will be a long term project and I do not expect to complete everything in the next 18 to 24 months. This is the original project vehicle that I will use for this restotation effort.



 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Nelson, that is one beauty! You have posted it before, wish you would stop rubbing our nose in it ;-)

What sort of horses does that engine put out?




reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #618, 01-08-2010 04:13 PM
      Great! Like the 3800 T-Top. The top makes it look more like the 308 GTS, and the 3800 III will scald the F-car. I like it; would like to have one like it, ultimately. Would even consider a straight Fiero with those feature--probably be less of a cop-catcher.

hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #619, 01-08-2010 05:31 PM
      I see some eyes and heads of the boys in blue rotating toward me when I drive the red T-Top. So far they have only looked but I have been careful to only open it up a bit at night on a deserted highway. The only time that I have ever been pulled over was in a F308 rebody. The cop followed me for a mile or two and then hit the lights when I signaled to do a left turn into a restaurant. He asked for my license, registration, and insurance. When I supplied them, he then left. According to him, I had run a red light several miles back but I did not even push a yellow. I also believe that he would have pulled me over then if I had really run the light. He inspected the car thoroughly during the stop so I think that he just wanted to look at the car. Maybe he was just not expecting to see a grey haired old guy crawl out of the car.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Great! Like the 3800 T-Top. The top makes it look more like the 308 GTS, and the 3800 III will scald the F-car. I like it; would like to have one like it, ultimately. Would even consider a straight Fiero with those feature--probably be less of a cop-catcher.




Rick 88 MSG #620, 01-10-2010 04:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Does anyone want to help me choose the exterior color of the last MERA that I have for restoration? It will have a Beechwood interior and I am thinking about either a British Racing Green or a Fly Yellow color. Right now I am leaning towards the BRG color. What other colors might also look good with this car?

Nelson


I like the green, but I have not see many green Ferrari's. The Fly yellow would look good too. How about having the Cromodora's powder coated in the magnesium gold color of the '"Scuderia" racing Ferrari's That color wheel would look good with either paint color and tie into the beechwood interior also.

What kind of paint did you use for the engine compartment on the 3800 car? I want to detail mine and I like the low gloss finish.


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #621, 01-10-2010 08:29 PM
      I saw an episode of "I Chase Classic Cars" where the star was showing at Concorso Italia in a category "Giallo Modena" There were F-cars and Maseratis all dressed up in yellow--very, very cool!

Paint your XK-140MC BRG.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #622, 01-11-2010 09:37 AM
      I think that POR 15 was used here but will have to go back and check the records when I get back home. The restorations are starting to run together in my mind right now.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


I like the green, but I have not see many green Ferrari's. The Fly yellow would look good too. How about having the Cromodora's powder coated in the magnesium gold color of the '"Scuderia" racing Ferrari's That color wheel would look good with either paint color and tie into the beechwood interior also.

What kind of paint did you use for the engine compartment on the 3800 car? I want to detail mine and I like the low gloss finish.




batousai666 MSG #623, 01-11-2010 05:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Does anyone want to help me choose the exterior color of the last MERA that I have for restoration? It will have a Beechwood interior and I am thinking about either a British Racing Green or a Fly Yellow color. Right now I am leaning towards the BRG color. What other colors might also look good with this car?

Nelson

i would vote to keep the documented Mera's their stock color,
in my opinion.
but, on the same subject, if your thinking of a more modern color, try Metallics.
thats where i am at with my need for a new color.
if i find some examples i will post them here.

Daniel

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batousai666 MSG #624, 01-11-2010 05:31 PM
      and speaking of paint how 'bout this:



have i shown this yet?
i like the deep copper feel to it.
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #625, 01-12-2010 02:16 AM
      hey dan, while your at it put some ghost flames in it

Rick 88 MSG #626, 01-13-2010 06:04 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I think that POR 15 was used here but will have to go back and check the records when I get back home. The restorations are starting to run together in my mind right now.

Nelson



How about the finish under the decklid? Has that been redone?


batousai666 MSG #627, 01-15-2010 06:18 PM
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is this not BAD A$$?
thanks to a fellow poster, thank you 85SEnotchie, i just may have to pull the eng swap to
get this. lower black paint and those rims.
well i need too see it here first, so here goes. later
D

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VelociJuris MSG #628, 01-15-2010 07:31 PM
      I would like to see more of that car. How did he treat the top, is it red or black? Is the hood all red?

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #629, 01-15-2010 07:53 PM
      Dan,

That looks like your carport--are you pulling something?

Dick


batousai666 MSG #630, 01-16-2010 12:38 AM
      who me????
no, this is a photoshop, edited photo of the future MERA X.
the hood will stay red as well as the rear decklid and top.
sorry for any unintended dupe.
Dan

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VelociJuris MSG #631, 01-16-2010 12:58 PM
      thanks batousai666 I thought it was a straight photo. I think i like the split look.

batousai666 MSG #632, 01-17-2010 03:18 PM
      'smore playing

Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #633, 01-19-2010 04:08 PM
      Interesting!

http://www.insideline.com/f...cle_pagination_top_1

Makes you glad you own a Mera!


85SEnochie (eqoflife@hotmail.com) MSG #634, 01-20-2010 01:45 PM
      Hope you do not mind that I post this one? I think this is the best one but I am a little old school



batousai666 MSG #635, 01-20-2010 05:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by 85SEnochie:

Hope you do not mind that I post this one? I think this is the best one but I am a little old school



not at all. you made it.
but really, you like the grey?
I thought if the grey was silver or chrome, maybe.
well, check this then if you would, how 'bout the grey rims
on the black lower pic??
just to make sure.
My engine grill on the rear deck is silver aluminum
so i kinda have that (self imposed) restriction/color theme
the grill is supposed to be black but weathered over the years.

i was gonna wait awile and in your P-shop thread
but i got another request if i could?
do you know how to do chrome as a body color??
like a dark red/Wine color in a metallic?
or maybe a dark copper color?? like in the pic of that truck above
heck, any color you may want to try, have at it.
i have multiple angle pics and the such, and i tend to be very post happy.
so lets play pretend.
Later
Daniel

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #636, 01-21-2010 10:41 AM
      Ya think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=006&category=6419


85SEnochie (eqoflife@hotmail.com) MSG #637, 01-21-2010 11:20 AM
     
 
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Originally posted by batousai666:
not at all. you made it.
but really, you like the grey?
I thought if the grey was silver or chrome, maybe.
well, check this then if you would, how 'bout the grey rims
on the black lower pic??
just to make sure.
My engine grill on the rear deck is silver aluminum
so i kinda have that (self imposed) restriction/color theme
the grill is supposed to be black but weathered over the years.

i was gonna wait awile and in your P-shop thread
but i got another request if i could?
do you know how to do chrome as a body color??
like a dark red/Wine color in a metallic?
or maybe a dark copper color?? like in the pic of that truck above
heck, any color you may want to try, have at it.
i have multiple angle pics and the such, and i tend to be very post happy.
so lets play pretend.
Later
Daniel



OK so I did the silver on the two tone then tried to chrome them let me know what you think click on the link below and go to the last page. as for chrome paint I could try but would prob not look right as for differant colors if I take so time with it and you can see just about anything



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #638, 01-21-2010 04:54 PM
      No pretenses.

http://losangeles.craigslis.../cto/1562850293.html


Rick 88 MSG #639, 01-21-2010 09:46 PM
     
 
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Originally posted by reholmes:

Ya think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=006&category=6419


T-Top, low miles, one owner (basically). Turn off's, the black accents and the automatic for me. Still a real Mera.


batousai666 MSG #640, 01-22-2010 07:03 AM
      with the e bay Mera, i agree.
i really like the fact that its an '87
i would throw some new paint on too, though.
gonna ask for the Mera # today and more pics, later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #641, 01-22-2010 07:18 AM
      the craigslist one on the other hand. too many wrongs. (headlights-wrong, vent in between-wrong, side mirrors-wrong, and the queen mother worst of them all, "built on a 1986 Fiero"-WRONG!
well, i still like the 1987, Ebay one.
And being soo close to IN. wait............ no money, Damn.
i have the day off, so i's got to surf, later
Dan

P.S. FLIP #17!!

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batousai666 MSG #642, 01-22-2010 07:25 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
P.S. FLIP #17!!




Yeah! i love the flip game.
also a BIG THANKS to 85SEnochie for his pure dillingence!
A positive rating for you kind sir! good show!
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #643, 01-22-2010 07:33 AM
      think chrome on the wheels.....


image manipulation can be fun. as long as no one gets hurt right?
i gotta learn how to do the Photoshop.
remember this little mod??

maybe?
later
D


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #644, 01-24-2010 04:05 PM
      Nice seats, but probably not original.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/1567894003.html


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #645, 01-26-2010 11:33 PM
      BUMP

batousai666 MSG #646, 01-27-2010 06:46 PM
      BUMP, my foot.
WHERE ARE YOU ALL AT?
TOMMY???
whooops, sorry that was D
he got out somehow.
i mean ......if i have gotten out of hand lately, i apologize. sorry.
So lets talk turkey.
in this last craigslist Mera, I...........like it.
Mera #8122. its even my number or #8022 would be fine also. i have a thing for the #'s 22 and 222.
birthday/numeralology stuff.
the car looks real clean.
but. seems weird that there is 3 mirror switches and 4 gold Mera nose badges (3 of which look like Tom's)
the one is faded.
you know? the thing about the nose badges is that they seem to have a black border around the gold border???
and also, unless they are horn buttons, there are only 2 wheel emblems.
just some observations of the slideshow. plus .02 cents.
Later,
Daniel

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batousai666 MSG #647, 01-27-2010 07:16 PM
      MAN! all 4 of the nose badges match the ORG. pic. Rodney posted of the OEM Mera nose.
also missed it the first time but, it/he has the OEM 2 slat lower front alum. grille.
you know? if one should start to make a worthy "Parts Car" list, this car is already worth what i paid for my Mera.
its got= upper door "bumpers", Cromodoras, mirrors, switches, emblems, front grill, headlight covers and the most important thing
the sticker. thems the hard stuff to "fake/find"
with all the recent Mera sale adds, i was thinking of a sales pitch should i sell mine(NOT)
but without the build # as a negative, something like.... "how 'bout if i knock off a cool $10,000
off so we can still make a deal here......"
with the last 2 or so add's lately... thats still $15,000. dicker and deal to 12 5 and we got a deal.
easy. got mine under $9000.
speaking of sales, ya'll see the thread about the 308 shipped to Spain??
thats cool. Internationale'.

back to the mines later,
Dan


batousai666 MSG #648, 01-27-2010 07:37 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

No pretenses.

http://losangeles.craigslis.../cto/1562850293.html



say?...... is "flagged for removal" a bad thing?
its gone. huh.
i still like the 1st e-bay one. the 1987 Mera with the black paint accents. Mera 7064. i believe
already looked it up on the map. 'sonly about 75 to 100 miles away.....CRUSE YOU BAD ECONOMY!!!!!!!!!
anywhoo.....i like the 87's as a collector of the rare. its got the OEM rims in gold
first i have seen outside B. Bracey himself..(pic of him and a yellow Mera)
ok, so i collected comics in the early 90's......maybe not so rare... i should check.
would it not be a kick if i had a new paint in a 100 books or so.
100 x $10.
200x $5 or........
I gotta go!!!
Later
Dan

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IMSA GT (drumwzrd@comcast.net) MSG #649, 01-27-2010 11:54 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:




Hey Dan, if you have not seen yet, he is a new member here. Here is the link.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/079346.html


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #650, 01-28-2010 04:51 PM
      If I posted this before, well hey, my synapses are getting a bit plaqued up. Reading this gives a greater appreciation of the Mera.

http://www.insideline.com/f...-quattrovalvole.html


batousai666 MSG #651, 01-28-2010 05:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

If I posted this before, well hey, my synapses are getting a bit plaqued up. Reading this gives a greater appreciation of the Mera.

http://www.insideline.com/f...-quattrovalvole.html



This was a good read.
i ani't got no $400 a month just for maintance. E'll no.
$4800 pays for new, nice and big U.S. built pavement destroyer. first year alone.
the problem with the replica/real Ferrari thing and they always win..... is with the statement...
"But it is still a real Ferrari...."
when i found Mera X, i was looking for a real 308 or Lotus Esprit on E-bay...
really its funny,
in like 5 or 6 days i was first introduced to the Pontiac Mera
and won one, in my opinion, at a steal of a price due a default with the highest bidder's lack of
communication. happy daze!!
say? anybody have a PowerChip in their car..
the Spain 308 had this and a funnel air intake, what ever that is.... but it looks easy for some HP
i am going NUTS not able to bust the Mera out for a spin.
damn salt trucks.....
anyway....later
Dan


batousai666 MSG #652, 01-28-2010 05:48 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

whoops,...sorry

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #653, 01-29-2010 01:58 AM
      bump

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #654, 01-29-2010 04:57 PM
      Looks authentic and in very good condition. Are those Cromodoras?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...ZCHo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiy5jyyFAcU


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #655, 01-29-2010 06:21 PM
      Those are the optional Chromadora wheels. The front bumper is not original and there have been some badge changes as well based on my quick look.

Nelson

[QUOTE]Originally posted by reholmes:

Looks authentic and in very good condition. Are those Cromodoras?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...ZCHo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiy5jyyFAcU




batousai666 MSG #656, 01-29-2010 07:23 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Ya think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=006&category=6419



MAN!
check it out. updated pictures.
Mera 7064. stickered
old school C.C. silver badge
with a soo cool patina if you will.
i soo totally want this car!!!!!!!!!
i was in the market for a paint of something anyway.


as far as the first you tube link, this car is the, Orlando Craigslist Mera from above.
wait.....thats where mine came from???


later i am gonna go drool over that 87 ebay one.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #657, 01-29-2010 07:49 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Nice seats, but probably not original.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/1567894003.html



yeah see this one.
KS licence, but Orlando ...list huh....

Later,
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #658, 01-29-2010 08:01 PM
      son of a ......


this is what my OEM Mera wheels are supposed to be painted in red, huh.......
thats cool...
no sticker and now, no bad to the bone rims,
it's all good.... cuz thats what i wanted to see on the car any ways. gold lace type.
notice the center cap?
cool more goals.
out
Dan

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Rick 88 MSG #659, 01-29-2010 11:27 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

son of a ......


this is what my OEM Mera wheels are supposed to be painted in red, huh.......
thats cool...
no sticker and now, no bad to the bone rims,
it's all good.... cuz thats what i wanted to see on the car any ways. gold lace type.
notice the center cap?
cool more goals.
out
Dan



Just pick up some 86-87 lace wheels and paint them. Rodney sells repro center cap emblems


Rick 88 MSG #660, 01-29-2010 11:29 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Looks authentic and in very good condition. Are those Cromodoras?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...ZCHo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiy5jyyFAcU


I have the hub covers for my Chromadora's, but I choose not to run them. The wheels look much better without them. I wonder what they are asking for the car?


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #661, 01-29-2010 11:33 PM
      hello all,

building a complete mera nose clip for a canadian buyer with a wrecked mera. other than that laying low in pro monster truck land lately...lol

mike in oklahoma


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #662, 01-30-2010 12:06 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


I have the hub covers for my Chromadora's, but I choose not to run them. The wheels look much better without them. I wonder what they are asking for the car?


I found the web site but the car was not on it--the YouTube vids are very recent. Guess you'll have to call.

http://midwestclassics.net/default.aspx


batousai666 MSG #663, 01-30-2010 10:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


I found the web site but the car was not on it--the YouTube vids are very recent. Guess you'll have to call.

http://midwestclassics.net/default.aspx



its there but you got to find it. i thought the same thing.
go to the vehicals4sale. 4th down. $25,000.

at idle sounds mean
and see the $10,000 sticker.
ahhhhaahahahah.....anyway
later
Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #664, 01-30-2010 12:20 PM
      How 'bout a small block Chevy engine swap?

http://www.moyermade.com/chevyV8.html


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #665, 01-30-2010 02:18 PM
      HOLMES THAT IS A COOL SBC!!! WHERE CAN I GET ONE LOL

Rick 88 MSG #666, 01-30-2010 04:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

How 'bout a small block Chevy engine swap?

http://www.moyermade.com/chevyV8.html


Now I just need an 1/6 scale Archie kit for my 1/6 scale Fiero


Rick 88 MSG #667, 01-30-2010 04:44 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
its there but you got to find it. i thought the same thing.
go to the vehicals4sale. 4th down. $25,000.

at idle sounds mean
and see the $10,000 sticker.
ahhhhaahahahah.....anyway
later
Dan



$25,000!!!! I don't feel near as bad about what I paid for mine now. And, I don't have to put the Mera emblems back on.


Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #668, 01-30-2010 08:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:







Any progress on this project?


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #669, 01-30-2010 11:18 PM
      Rob,

This project is on hold until after Daytona. I knew that I could not finish the interior by myself prior to the end of March so I elected to wait until then to start. I have VDO instrumentation installed in the new dash and have done some preliminary wiring work. If you would like to show up at the house and help me complete this prior to Daytona, I have plenty of room and would love to be an advertisement for your professional work.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:


Any progress on this project?




Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #670, 01-31-2010 12:30 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

If you would like to show up at the house and help me complete this prior to Daytona, I have plenty of room
Nelson



Do you have plenty of spare change in that room Nelson? My daily rate will have to be enticing to get me to fly across the continent again to do another install. My last install in Florida gave me the flu and I worked from dawn to midnight for 2 1/2 days in sticky 95' humidity, and that was with the gauges already wired up. It's the wiring that takes up the majority of the install. I would have to say it'll be a 4-5 day marathon to include gauges...assuming no complications.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #671, 02-01-2010 12:23 PM
      Well, the car is in my basement garage which is fully set up with HVAC so we could ignore the humidity issue. I also have a spare car that you could use if you do not mind driving a Mera or a F308 rebody. The spare change amount would have to be negotiated. If you are serious, give me a price and I will consider it. I have the tools and equiupment here to do most anything we need.

Nelson


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #672, 02-01-2010 02:34 PM
      Does anyone else have this hood alignment problem? Solutions?



Ooops, had the camera on video--don't click the image.


Rick 88 MSG #673, 02-01-2010 05:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Does anyone else have this hood alignment problem? Solutions?



Ooops, had the camera on video--don't click the image.


Looks like you need to adjust the bumpers at the back of the hood. How does it line up everyplace else?


batousai666 MSG #674, 02-01-2010 06:05 PM
      hey, maybe there is a cat or a small dog in there. Naw..... just kiddin'.
there does seem like a lot of "out" is involved. i am no help tho. sorry.
one of my pop rivets broke at the piviot end of the front hood. up by the nose. tough spot.
i cannot even look at Mera X.
its too... tempting. wanna drive it so bad.
*Darn* salt is soo thick up here the semi trucks
whip up clouds of salt dust in certian icy areas along I-94. to almost white out cond.
again kidding. kinda'
anywho.
later
Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #675, 02-01-2010 07:06 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


Looks like you need to adjust the bumpers at the back of the hood. How does it line up everyplace else?


Well, it's off the bumpers, so I guess the problem is in the latch positioning--don't know if that is adjustable. Certainly not easy like the engine compartment latch.

Just checked--pretty easy to adjust latch, captive nuts and exposed cap screws. Don't know what that will do to the fender/hood alignment, may have to reach a happy medium.

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batousai666 MSG #676, 02-01-2010 09:11 PM
      ohhhh. my.


thanks 85SEnochie. i got another idea.
D

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Amida (robert.kusakabe@comcast.net) MSG #677, 02-02-2010 10:11 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

Well, the car is in my basement garage which is fully set up with HVAC so we could ignore the humidity issue. I also have a spare car that you could use if you do not mind driving a Mera or a F308 rebody. The spare change amount would have to be negotiated. If you are serious, give me a price and I will consider it. I have the tools and equiupment here to do most anything we need.

Nelson


No, I was just kidding. It'll take a a pretty sweet offer to get me to go anywhere to do another install. Better to buy your familly something nice & do it yourself.


hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #678, 02-02-2010 01:21 PM
      I was afraid of that but had nothing at all to loose by asking. Please let me know if you change your mind.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Amida:


No, I was just kidding. It'll take a a pretty sweet offer to get me to go anywhere to do another install. Better to buy your familly something nice & do it yourself.




batousai666 MSG #679, 02-02-2010 06:17 PM
      how you say..nochie?....SLAMMED.....


post.....


Rick 88 MSG #680, 02-02-2010 07:32 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Well, it's off the bumpers, so I guess the problem is in the latch positioning--don't know if that is adjustable. Certainly not easy like the engine compartment latch.

Just checked--pretty easy to adjust latch, captive nuts and exposed cap screws. Don't know what that will do to the fender/hood alignment, may have to reach a happy medium.



I thought the Mera hood is just an overlay on a stock Fiero hood. So are you able to lower the hood latch in the opening to get the hood to line up? Pics please!


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #681, 02-03-2010 03:59 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


I thought the Mera hood is just an overlay on a stock Fiero hood. So are you able to lower the hood latch in the opening to get the hood to line up? Pics please!


Well, I have yet to try, but the latch mechanism appears to be adjustable.

Captive nuts on latch frame:


Cap screws on firewall:


Cap screws on firewall 2:



Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #682, 02-03-2010 05:00 PM
      This is most likely a common problem on all the Mera’s and copies of. The hood warps over time and those corners lift. This is from the latch pulling the hood down in the middle. The sides warp up over time. My fix was a few things. One winter I had my tires off. I put something like a piece of wood over the latch area to hold the hood open some, closed the hood and put a tire (with a towel under it) on each side of the hood over these corners. Over several months it helped warp the hood back into a better original shape. I may have added some more weight over that time frame. I took out the hood latch and filed the slots so I had additional adjustability or I added spacer washers under the loop on the hood. It has been a long time and I can not remember now. I wanted to just have the latch grab with little or no pressure pulling down. I adjusted the hood latch so it just latched when the hood was slowly lowered down. I also raised the front of the hod slightly. The trade off is the hood likes to wobble some when driving. Several years (8-9 or more) have passed now and it is still about the same since I did that the one winter. This fix takes time. It can not be done quickly. I did mine over maybe 6 months or more.

Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #683, 02-03-2010 05:17 PM
     

Not a good close up but my hood is aligned pretty well. Just over the center of the wheels the hood is slightly lower than the fenders. I also forgot one thing. I took the front trunk gasket out. Put in small putty cones and found what the gap was. I bought some generic gasket material and glued it on so my gasket just touches the underside of the front hood with a thin gasket that does not want to push up the hood. That also helped some. The OEM GM gasket seemed to be a tight fit when the hood was down.

Rodney Dickman


Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #684, 02-03-2010 05:19 PM
      To open my front hood I have to have my drivers side door open. I stand in front of the open drivers side door and reach in and pull the release lever while I lift the hood.



batousai666 MSG #685, 02-03-2010 06:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
MAN!
check it out. updated pictures.
Mera 7064. stickered
old school C.C. silver badge
with a soo cool patina if you will.
i soo totally want this car!!!!!!!!!
i was in the market for a paint of something anyway.

later i am gonna go drool over that 87 ebay one.
Dan




AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
$9,000!!!!!!!!!!!
and with me facing a possible lack of work lay off Friday.

Damn.
freakin' economy!

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batousai666 MSG #686, 02-03-2010 06:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Ya think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...ih=006&category=6419



maybe this link will show.
bump to the front.
Anybody???
$9000 aint too much is it?

ohhh....i hope it is not me on the lay-off list Friday.

bet!.....if you all do not buy this, i will sometime Saturday, with a "get low payments" finance bid deal.
yeah.....
any body know if its a full moon tonite??
i need the stars on my side.
chat-ya later,
D




Rick 88 MSG #687, 02-03-2010 07:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:



Not a good close up but my hood is aligned pretty well. Just over the center of the wheels the hood is slightly lower than the fenders. I also forgot one thing. I took the front trunk gasket out. Put in small putty cones and found what the gap was. I bought some generic gasket material and glued it on so my gasket just touches the underside of the front hood with a thin gasket that does not want to push up the hood. That also helped some. The OEM GM gasket seemed to be a tight fit when the hood was down.

Rodney Dickman


Can you describe what you roof treatment is? What kind of rearview mirrors are you using? The hood realignment idea seems like it would be better to do during warmer weather.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #688, 02-04-2010 12:13 AM
      Rodney,

Thanks for the tips!

Dick


batousai666 MSG #689, 02-04-2010 05:56 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
maybe this link will show.
bump to the front.
Anybody???
$9000 aint too much is it?

ohhh....i hope it is not me on the lay-off list Friday.

bet!.....if you all do not buy this, i will sometime Saturday, with a "get low payments" finance bid deal.
yeah.....
any body know if its a full moon tonite??
i need the stars on my side.
chat-ya later,
D




too late. sold for $7000.
sunofa.....

i cannot believe it went for that.
wow.
i was gonna offer $8,000. too bad.

is it one of "us" that got it??
Later,
Dan

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Rodney (rodney@rodneydickman.com) MSG #690, 02-04-2010 09:31 AM
      I have a fake Targa top. It is vinyl roof with the typical vinyl roof strip along the front edge. The previous owner had this installed. Looks OK. If I had a hard top Mera I probably would not do it. I would badge mine as a GTB.

I have Vitalonie electric Turbo Mirrors. Impossible to find today even used. My electrical engineer friend made me a diagram and I wired several relays up to make them work with the Fiero electric mirror switch.


Rodney Dickman
1988 Mera #8110

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Newbfiero (bobby_0958@hotmail.com) MSG #691, 02-04-2010 03:33 PM
      Rodney pm sent ..

Thx Rob


Rick 88 MSG #692, 02-04-2010 06:16 PM
      Rodney,

PM sent also.



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #693, 02-08-2010 11:44 PM
      BUMP

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #694, 02-09-2010 06:00 PM
      Interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123


batousai666 MSG #695, 02-09-2010 06:21 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123



i need to speculate....
humm.....the '86 prototype had true 308, all in one tail lights.
seens logical, they may have been lit up this way, Maybe.

originally posted by Mera-NSX......

"....with what you find out. Remember, he refused to give the vin #( (he was very firm about that for some reason?) but if you are there I suppose you should be able to find a way to get it. I know from the pictures on Craigslist the car does have the real 308 tailight configuration, I am familiar with it because my 87 has it that way. The one thing relating to that which makes absolutely no sense, is that he pointed out to me that there was "bodywork" done to the rear, as he explained why it did not have the Ford backup lights. That would make sense if someone were explaing how their 1988 Mera got those taillights, but actually seems to go against the thought that this would be the one & only 1986...as in that case, and I'm sure Rodney would agree, there would not be any bodywork to the taillight area, as they never would have had the Ford backup lights in the first place."


the guy i bought Mera X from, posted here on Pennocks that, my car had no retangle back ups. how did he say it?
org. 308 configureation or something....
I hope Rodney may have some insight into this.
my angle is Early Meras may have been lighted this way.
that would be a great way to determine very early Meras.
i love rare things.
later
Dan
*edit* did it work? Not in quote mode tho.

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batousai666 MSG #696, 02-09-2010 06:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mera-NSX:

Thats great, I'll be keeping an eye out for your post with what you find out. Remember, he refused to give the vin #( (he was very firm about that for some reason?) but if you are there I suppose you should be able to find a way to get it. I know from the pictures on Craigslist the car does have the real 308 tailight configuration, I am familiar with it because my 87 has it that way. The one thing relating to that which makes absolutely no sense, is that he pointed out to me that there was "bodywork" done to the rear, as he explained why it did not have the Ford backup lights. That would make sense if someone were explaing how their 1988 Mera got those taillights, but actually seems to go against the thought that this would be the one & only 1986...as in that case, and I'm sure Rodney would agree, there would not be any bodywork to the taillight area, as they never would have had the Ford backup lights in the first place.

So when you go there to see the car, try to get a look in behind the taillight area/see if it looks like there was any alteration as far as the taillights go.

I got the feeling talking to the seller, that someone else familiar w/the Mera called him about this car before I did, because although he came across as not having much knowledge about the Mera, he seemed to mention certain things (such as the taillights), but still without any real certainty. So I believe someone already put some of those questions to him before I did.

As I mentioned, I dont see a problem with someone referencing the Mera for comparison sake, when they are talking about their 308 replica, as long as if they do not have a Mera they dont claim theirs is one. But when someone is using the term as a basis for why they are asking what they are for the car, and are in fact claiming it to be one, then it better in fact be legit or I consider that to be fraudulent & misrepresentation, and unfair to a potential buyer.



to me this says that his 1987 stock Mera had the org. 308 tail lights like a real F-car and also like the 86 Prototype.
(actually his post is from 2008 thread about a '86 Mera for sale.)

now, with that posted.....if very early Meras had no retangle lights, that would be a bonus.....and hopefully Fact.
i see the NSX dude, having Meras already, assumed that the '87 needs Ford lights for validilty..
bammo, enter ebay. Mera X has retangle tail lights.
now if i am reading his post right about his Mera having no Ford lights.
in my opinion, a Mera with no sticker and no Ford tail lights and no Chromadora
rims...this sets up for a very early Mera. ohhhh...... and maybe the Manual mirror thing from the sales add i have...
this may be something....or not.
the smell of a quest is afoot.....away!
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #697, 02-10-2010 12:19 AM
      IM NOT SURE I FOLLOW YOU DAN BUT MY 87 MERA HAS THE FORD BACKUP LIGHTS AND SEEMS LIKE A SOMEWHAT EARLY MERA. MIKE IN OKLAHOMA

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #698, 02-10-2010 12:22 AM
      PS DAN, I HAVE LESS THAN $2000.00 IN 7071 AND HAVE ALMOST ALL OF THE BODY PUT BACK TOGETHER. CAR STILL RAN AND DROVE WHEN I BOUGHT IT AND HAS A VERY NICE F308 INTERIOR. AFTER PAINT I WILL HAVE LIKE 2500.00 IN IT... LOL

batousai666 MSG #699, 02-10-2010 05:25 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

IM NOT SURE I FOLLOW YOU DAN BUT MY 87 MERA HAS THE FORD BACKUP LIGHTS AND SEEMS LIKE A SOMEWHAT EARLY MERA. MIKE IN OKLAHOMA


sorry but 7071 is in the last 20% or so.
...cannot allow early Mera status for you.
i mean....(coughs) the #'s are not in your favor my friend. At a boy, on the progress. Pictures
this brings to mind,
we should finalize...
what is a early Mera???
maybe... early Vin # and up too the first ten??? 22??
i'd like to establish a concensus on some admited early traits...
for questions, i will use quotes as a back up from the archives (i learned this all by myself...
hope i remember how to.
cool?
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #700, 02-10-2010 05:34 PM
      heres one.

 
quote
Originally posted by Rodney:


It seems Corprate Concepts started putting the VIN tag on the rear deck lids starting in 88. Maybe some late 87's had them? Anyone could take them off also.

You need to take the rear cover off and look to see if the reverse lens openings have been filled in at one time. Maybe the rear clip was replaced at one time?

Anything can happen to any car once it leaves the dealers lot.

Rodney Dickman
Mera registry


ohhhh.....i sooo hope this will be a fact....see, i am sold that i have a Mera. but, now i think i have a very early Mera...
this is way more fun than the sticker guest..
i wanna establish some possible early Mera Facts here.
you know my composite black louver sails, the sharpened Alum. engine grill, this new clue of maybe not having
Ford back up lights....the 2 slat front Alum. grill.....well anyway heres start...
posted
D

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #701, 02-10-2010 10:57 PM
      Unfortunately, my 87 Mera has the stock louvers, Ford back up lights, and the Mera Build number tag.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

heres one.


ohhhh.....i sooo hope this will be a fact....see, i am sold that i have a Mera. but, now i think i have a very early Mera...
this is way more fun than the sticker guest..
i wanna establish some possible early Mera Facts here.
you know my composite black louver sails, the sharpened Alum. engine grill, this new clue of maybe not having
Ford back up lights....the 2 slat front Alum. grill.....well anyway heres start...
posted
D





mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #702, 02-10-2010 11:48 PM
      MY 87 mera also has ford backup lights and mera tag on the inner deck

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #703, 02-11-2010 02:26 PM
      OK, Dan, what's wrong with this picture--other than it is a terrible photo?



Give up? It's obviously not the original Mera sticker. This supports Rodney's statement that anything can happen after the car leaves the dealer. Fortunately, I have a copy of the "Mera Conditions of Sale and Warranty authorization" which has the Mera number, VIN, and Dealer name and authorized signature--but if I didn't, I would still be pleased with the car. Of course, if I didn't have the documentation and someone said, "I own #8046," then I 'spose I would be somewhat chagrined.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #704, 02-11-2010 07:17 PM
      Build you a new label using the correct font and paint code and it would be closer to the original label style.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

OK, Dan, what's wrong with this picture--other than it is a terrible photo?



Give up? It's obviously not the original Mera sticker. This supports Rodney's statement that anything can happen after the car leaves the dealer. Fortunately, I have a copy of the "Mera Conditions of Sale and Warranty authorization" which has the Mera number, VIN, and Dealer name and authorized signature--but if I didn't, I would still be pleased with the car. Of course, if I didn't have the documentation and someone said, "I own #8046," then I 'spose I would be somewhat chagrined.





batousai666 MSG #705, 02-12-2010 07:07 PM
      check it out!
A birthday present (to myself) showed up in the mail today.



now if i could only drive it.
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #706, 02-13-2010 12:38 AM
      mera correct part number on flag base.... vitaloni power mirrors left and right. best reasonable offer

batousai666 MSG #707, 02-13-2010 07:37 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

OK, Dan, what's wrong with this picture--other than it is a terrible photo?


Give up? It's obviously not the original Mera sticker. This supports Rodney's statement that anything can happen after the car leaves the dealer. Fortunately, I have a copy of the "Mera Conditions of Sale and Warranty authorization" which has the Mera number, VIN, and Dealer name and authorized signature--but if I didn't, I would still be pleased with the car. Of course, if I didn't have the documentation and someone said, "I own #8046," then I 'spose I would be somewhat chagrined.



do you know if the orginial sticker is under the new one??
it would have been nice if the person who put the "new"
one on , had placed them side by side.
also noticed your trunk paint has a rough look to it.
mine is smooth. I am gonna go look at others i have seen for a possible match.
it concerns me why i have a smooth inner trunk.
that is where my sticker may have ended up. on some shop floor. later,
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #708, 02-13-2010 08:32 AM
      is this thing on???? testing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...?hash=item2558ca9d80


batousai666 MSG #709, 02-13-2010 08:34 AM
      yeah i did it!
that car does have all the F-car traits.
seems to have a thing against the Meras.
wonder why???
Dan


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #710, 02-14-2010 03:29 AM
      for those of you who are hardcore MERA addicts... i also know where there is a set of nos new REAL mera vitaloni power mirrors with correct bases and new nos correct toggle switch. the guy knows what he has though and wants 1750.00 firm

project34 MSG #711, 02-14-2010 06:39 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
is this thing on???? testing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...?hash=item2558ca9d80

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
that car does have all the F-car traits.
seems to have a thing against the Meras.
wonder why???
Dan

I'd guess the answer to your last question is your statement immediately preceding it, as is evidenced by some acerbic comments I've excerpted below from the would-be seller's ad for his "Stinger" kit car:
code:
-  Unlike the 308 MERA and 308 MERA-clones out there the 308 Stinger resale price is HIGH even in this economy because they are RARE....

- The Stinger kit looks 100% better than any custom MERA out there....Just take a look at the photo and then compare the Stinger with a MERA replica and the real Italian 308 GTSi. There is no comparison folks, unless you like cheap imitations.
- This Stinger replica is not cheap because it looks some much like the expensive Italian car it's molded after. If you want to buy a cheap and incomplete project then look elsewhere. Just remember, at the end of the day YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!


Some of the important details the 308 Stinger has and the 308 MERA replicas WISH they had:
- correct front hood
- correct front lights and lift up grills
- correct mirrors (Vetaloni)
- correct rear deck and engine cover (a dead give away on 308 MERA clones)
- correct door pulls
- correct looking wheels
- correct height and wheels arches
- unique targa top (no MERA ever had this)
- close to original 308 looking dash and interior
- and much more - just look at the many photos for proof.

It sounds to me like that gentleman would prefer it if a clone looked exactly like a 308 (tough to do with a Fiero engine), which is almost the opposite of what Fiero-in-Paradise has been doing to make his Mera look like a Mera, rather than a 308.

IMO, the would-be seller of the "Stinger" kit car has a very nice-looking car, but it's just not a Mera.



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #712, 02-14-2010 08:02 PM
      stingers are very cool. but they are not meras. i had the opportunity to buy a set of stinger molds but i bought the mera molds instead.

batousai666 MSG #713, 02-15-2010 05:58 AM
      i see the Stinger as a "kit" car too. The Mera is more than that. in my eyes....
so its not even apples to apples.
the Mera is not a direct copy of the 308, but more of
a "tip of the hat", so to speak.
the Mera also has at least 2 major things that step aside the look of the F-car, 1- being the one piece roof to trunk, "trianlges".
and 2- a sun roof.
if one should want a true 308 replica, i would go with the Stinger, it is a good copy.
Dan

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Barkaroo (barkaroo@aol.com) MSG #714, 02-15-2010 03:18 PM
      Its been a while since I posted any pictures of my Mera and I was in the mood today so what the heck.

My solution to the lowering issue was to just use a slightly taller tire. I fills in the wheel wells nice.





hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #715, 02-15-2010 05:15 PM
      I also use 60 series tires on my F308 rebody and it works fairly well on a 15 inch rim.

Nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by Barkaroo:

Its been a while since I posted any pictures of my Mera and I was in the mood today so what the heck.

My solution to the lowering issue was to just use a slightly taller tire. I fills in the wheel wells nice.



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batousai666 MSG #716, 02-15-2010 05:22 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

IM NOT SURE I FOLLOW YOU DAN BUT MY 87 MERA HAS THE FORD BACKUP LIGHTS AND SEEMS LIKE A SOMEWHAT EARLY MERA. MIKE IN OKLAHOMA



 
quote
Originally posted by Mera-NSX:

That auction has been running on ebay for a few months, that seller has alot of rare/interesting car related materials such as that one. I have a few originals of that color brochure which were given to me when I purchased my 88 Bracey Mera. But I don't believe there are actually any Mera emblems viewable on the car shown in the pictures of that brochure. Also, interesting to note that the Mera pictured in the brochure has the real Carello Ferrari tail lights (as my 87 Mera does), and not the ford backup lights more commonly associated with the Mera. That brochure can also be seen by going to fiero.net, clicking on "showroom", then go to "mera sales brochure". Rodney's Mera article as well as another 2 page black & white sales ad are also viewable there as well. Of the Meras I own, none of them came with any original Mera emblems. I'd imagine that most all of the original Mera owners got rid of them to re-badge with Ferr. emblems, not really thinking much about the history or rarity of the Mera down the line.



the 87 Mera above, is my Mera X.
i swear it says that Mera X had no Ford back up lights.
Funny....the things you can find on the Net.
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #717, 02-15-2010 11:07 PM
      bump

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #718, 02-15-2010 11:47 PM
      Interesting kit--looks like the targa top may be removeable. Not very clean.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...TL100214121016r34249


batousai666 MSG #719, 02-16-2010 02:42 PM
      01-05-2008 01:57 PM





The wheels are the Cromodora wheels that were on the 1988 Meras. Jim Sutter bought up all remaining stock. Tires are 245/50R15 front, 265/50R15 rear. The front light cluster (driving lights/parking lights/turn signals) are OEM Ferrari parts, as are the side markers (all removed in these photos to make sanding easier. Tail lights are Mera surplus. The back-up lights are in the lower rear grillwork.
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did this transfer??

*edit* for pictures.

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #720, 02-17-2010 04:45 PM
      What is this post about?

nelson

 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

01-05-2008 01:57 PM

Summer/fall 1990. Here I am keeping 3M stock prices up by going through a LOT of 220 and 400 grit sandpaper. The fiberglass was good, but like all fiberglass body parts, there were pinholes.

1) Apply putty
2) Sand
3) Repeat

The wheels are the Cromodora wheels that were on the 1988 Meras. Jim Sutter bought up all remaining stock. Tires are 245/50R15 front, 265/50R15 rear. The front light cluster (driving lights/parking lights/turn signals) are OEM Ferrari parts, as are the side markers (all removed in these photos to make sanding easier. Tail lights are Mera surplus. The back-up lights are in the lower rear grillwork.
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did this transfer??




mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #721, 02-17-2010 05:54 PM
      im lost too nelson, dan what is this about?

batousai666 MSG #722, 02-18-2010 06:58 AM
      more blammo.... i learn how to cut and paste...


Monza

As featured on BBC's TV TOP GEAR



Monza body to fit the Pontiac Fiero
1984-88 V6 or 4cyl cars, auto or manual
A complete kit for only £3995 inc VAT
Kit comprises of :
Rear lower pannel including both rear wings fully trimmed with lamp fixing points and exhaust ports. Rear upper panel. Rear complete trunk lid including engine vent louvers and wiring loom. Pair door skins with drilled and trimmed lock and handle positions . One peice front nose cone and wings with drilled marker lamp fixing points. Bonnet overlaypanel. Louvered head lamp covers. Front and rear bumpers finished in black gelcoat.Pair of lower sill pannels finished in textured black gelcoat. Pair of side louverpanels in black gelcoat and mounting studs. Pair of flanged side vent inner panels.Front aluminium grille. Front lamps. Front repeater lamps. Door extention brackets. Locks and handle adapter rods. Trunk hinge adapter plates. Rear lamps. Pair of exhaust tips. Exhaust adapter pipes.Side vent intake grilles.
Optional extras include:
Replica steering wheel Replica gear shift chrome gate Replica 3 piece wheels Tyres set of 4 to fit Leather seats Wilton carpets Sports dash
View our custom interiors
.
.

 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

im lost too nelson, dan what is this about?

i am looking for stuff on the net and posting. the thread above pg. 18 (about the rims) is a hint, where the Cromodoras and OEM lenses went
on the 328 kits.
FYI.
will be doing this cut a post crap till it gets nice out
I miss driving me Boys.......


till its is 45+ degrees
back to the surf
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #723, 02-18-2010 07:55 AM
      heres smore fun in the World Wide Web. Top Gear filmed in 1997.
gets good at 3:15 and is great at 4:00 into the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JzrBcAtCk0

once the fatty fat engines are in no one can say anything.
hows the swap in 7071 going, Mike?? cant wait.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #724, 02-18-2010 08:16 AM
      seems like the Monza has a 2 piece rear.....uh....ohhhh!


".....Rear lower pannel including both rear wings fully trimmed with lamp fixing points and exhaust ports. Rear upper panel. Rear complete trunk lid including engine vent louvers and wiring loom...."

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #725, 02-19-2010 01:13 AM
      hey dan, all is well in my camp. 7071 is on hold for a few months or so as i am building my pro monster truck.

batousai666 MSG #726, 02-20-2010 08:15 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hey dan, all is well in my camp. 7071 is on hold for a few months or so as i am building my pro monster truck.


its almost spring driving season.
do you have any of the new body panels fitted????
am soo curious......
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #727, 02-20-2010 11:27 AM
      hello dan, yes all of the new kevlar panels are on 7071. does not look crashed anymore... is a good thing. and also have a fiberglass set of panels on the little 88 i am using as a test mule as well. have my f430 brake conversion on both cars, have my cad designed tubular a arms on both cars, so on... 7071 is mostly stock though. am leaving it that way with exception to brakes and suspension. brakes and suspension were hurt in the crash so since having to replace might as well use good stuff lol. talk to you later, mike in oklahoma

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #728, 02-20-2010 11:29 AM
      ps i have had absolutely no interest...zero...nada...zilch... inquiries/purchases about my mera replacement panels or mera parts. so kinda lost interest. mike

Rick 88 MSG #729, 02-20-2010 07:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by hnthomps:

I also use 60 series tires on my F308 rebody and it works fairly well on a 15 inch rim.

Nelson




PM sent OOPs wrong member, sorry Nelson.

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Rick 88 MSG #730, 02-20-2010 07:12 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Barkaroo:

Its been a while since I posted any pictures of my Mera and I was in the mood today so what the heck.

My solution to the lowering issue was to just use a slightly taller tire. I fills in the wheel wells nice.





PM sent...right person this time!


batousai666 MSG #731, 02-21-2010 10:01 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

ps i have had absolutely no interest...zero...nada...zilch... inquiries/purchases about my mera replacement panels or mera parts. so kinda lost interest. mike



i will say this, if a need should arise.... it will be cuz of an accident or fire!
how 'bout a Ins. debacle?? your old smashed up 7071 panels on my 1987 Fiero, with full coverage.....best to saynomore....

can't fix 'em lessen i breaks them. plus an untimley layoff keeps me from a set of the louvered sails. sorry.
supposed to be a "pickup" for work in June, i hope i am on it.
tis the driving season appproaching, nigh???
i am working on some cheap Horsepower mods for the spring.

ohhhh...... yeah i found Mera 8059. its in Jolly'O' England.
QUOTE
"FERRARI 308GTB REPLICA SOLD (1988) edit C71832



Sold by AutoContinental
http://www.autocontinental.co.uk/
Get Insurance Quote Get Finance Quote

FERRARI 308GTB REPLICA (PONTIAC BASED). LEFT Hand Drive 1988 Pontiac based Ferrari Replica, Leather Trim etc. New MoT & Registration as a Pontiac 308 GTB Sports. All Duties Paid. £6,500
Look a-like 1988 Pontiac chassic 2.8 injection Rare in Automatic new MOT cheap insurance Ferrari badged Kit Car this vehicle must be seen build quality is fantastic .She is open to offer on this auction TRY ME COMES WITH NEW mot uk REGISTERED And only 18500 miles Factory built Mera No 8059 on this vehicle."


Listing Date: 21-Feb-2009

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #732, 02-21-2010 05:50 PM
      hey dan,

oh i undestand and its fine. i know i wont sell anything until someone wrecks one. im fine with it. but i have lost interest in building new parts until some interest peaks. until then i will just drive my little 88 coupe mera replacement panel car and work on my pro monster truck

mike in oklahoma


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #733, 02-24-2010 12:46 AM
      bump

Rick 88 MSG #734, 02-24-2010 07:03 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hey dan,

oh i undestand and its fine. i know i wont sell anything until someone wrecks one. im fine with it. but i have lost interest in building new parts until some interest peaks. until then i will just drive my little 88 coupe mera replacement panel car and work on my pro monster truck

mike in oklahoma


pm sent


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #735, 02-24-2010 08:33 PM
      VITALONI MIRRORS, AND MERA TAILLIGHTS ON EBAY AGAIN. MIKE IN OKLAHOMA

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #736, 02-26-2010 12:47 AM
      dam monster truck is bleeding me out lol

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #737, 02-27-2010 04:57 PM
      bump

batousai666 MSG #738, 02-28-2010 08:06 AM
      here ya go...
say hello to the....FERRARI MEERA.....






thats funny.
I kinda like it. these are a '82 (bottom) +'83.

Dan


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #739, 02-28-2010 11:50 AM
      So, scroll through these; "The ugliest Ferrari" Certainly not the first one!

http://forums.fourtitude.co...ad?id=4697320&page=2


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #740, 02-28-2010 10:46 PM
      im a ferrari dude and never heard of a meera.... learn something every day. cool.

batousai666 MSG #741, 03-01-2010 10:47 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

im a ferrari dude and never heard of a meera.... learn something every day. cool.



hi Mike!
it was funny....i double typed "e" (meera) and that car picture showed up. thought it was a "bug"
so i image searched Meera and the picture with Meera spelled out on the back showed..
pretty cool...a Mera(Meera) Ferrari connection.
Later
Dan


batousai666 MSG #742, 03-03-2010 08:04 AM
      sooo.... i guess the 1986 Mera Prototype was like 150 miles from me and i did not see it.
bloody cold. got me a brain freeze.....




in this last pic i like the fact that we share the same seats....thats awesome!
so i looked for more and......

found this pic on a Fiero Fourm in Sweden. under 87 Mera. (seems to mean "more" in swedish.)
later
D

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #743, 03-03-2010 11:27 AM
      So, Dan, tell us more about the silver car--all the "Ws"

batousai666 MSG #744, 03-03-2010 04:15 PM
      well....
who?- some guy in MI
what?-1986 Mera prototype, As per Rodney.
we share the same seats along with that one '87 Mera i found in Sweden....this is cool
where?- the pics i stole from various Detroit Autorama 2010 threads on the Pennocks.
when?- last weekend.
why?- cuz its less than 100 miles from me.....would love to spend the whole family pack on batteries.....for camera
inside/outside/underside. inside body panels, especally...you bet 'ya.....hopefully some thing will break on my Mera # this summer
i have found alot of cool stuff on Meras....seems like everyday
something pops up....
I JUST WANNA DRIVE !
one day....till 3 heavy rains and 50+ degrees , i wait...
later
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #745, 03-03-2010 10:21 PM
      so your waiting for rain and 50 below dan? lol

batousai666 MSG #746, 03-04-2010 08:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

so your waiting for rain and 50 below dan? lol



....above 50 degress in temp.(woke up to 14 degrees today) and 3 real good rains, too wash off all the bloody salt..
its soo thick here, the roads are still white (not snow), with salt power...
i need to move south and west.
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #747, 03-04-2010 06:12 PM
      i was just messing with you dan lol

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #748, 03-05-2010 11:39 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

what?-1986 Mera prototype, As per Rodney.




So, this is really the infamous '86 prototype?



paced84 (84nd500@comcast.net) MSG #749, 03-05-2010 08:06 PM
      Yes it's the real deal.



batousai666 MSG #750, 03-06-2010 08:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

i was just messing with you dan lol



yeah i know, it just the driving withdrawls.....even the winter driving/drifting season has been lame here....cold, hardly any snow.
today, however....
46 degs..SUNNY. i can doo something with this.Later
Dan


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #751, 03-06-2010 11:57 PM
      really? we have had record snow this winter here in oklahoma.... im not so much worried about myself as much as i am worried about who or what will run into me lol mike in oklahoma

paced84 (84nd500@comcast.net) MSG #752, 03-07-2010 08:47 AM
     
1986 MERA today only able to post one photo. could not post pip again

Ron T



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #753, 03-07-2010 12:47 PM
      Thanks. Who owns it?

I never have gotten pip to work--I use Photobucket. Very convenient for posting HTML image links.

OBTW, it was 80 here yesterday--bright sun, slight breeze. EYHO!


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #754, 03-07-2010 06:35 PM
      Aloha everyone!

I love the beechwood interior of my Mera...but it's just a WIDE EXPANSE of brown everywhere.





So, I decided to purchase a set of grey arm rests, and I used this paint to re-paint them black.



I prepped the arm rests by washing them well with Dawn and letting them air dry for one entire day. The paint goes on very easily, and after a couple days drying, it does flex without cracking. Time will tell on how well it holds up. The only down side is that its way too glossy. I'll deal with that later. Anyways, I just wanted to see how it would look, and personally, I like the new contrasting colors:









Opinions??
Tom



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #755, 03-07-2010 07:50 PM
      Well, Tom, that stuff sure works great or you're quite a craftsman, one--I would guess the latter.

I noticed something interesting; the mask around your rear window is missing the part up the right side--so is mine. I can't believe it was originally that way, but it does allow a "peak" out that corner.

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batousai666 MSG #756, 03-08-2010 06:27 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

really? we have had record snow this winter here in oklahoma.... im not so much worried about myself as much as i am worried about who or what will run into me lol mike in oklahoma



sorry....you can have it, friend....i need a break, every year (give or take a year) from 1990, i have helped a friend, shovel his
plow contracts. i do the walks of the office building and Apts. well i am Done....horrible wet, heavy, miserible stuff..to shovel as is.
i do miss the money. its funny that we do not have the snow like we used too or i would be shoveling today. cuz i am weak...and like money.
to my surprize the forecast for SW Mi is like 50 all week. is wishing the same as praying??

Hi Tom. where you been??
them arm rests are a nice little "break-up" in the interior. nice job.
ever wanna try the upper inner door panel make-up. the Mera bolt on???
i could try to paint it for you??
actually your sleepin' i'll just do it!
later,
Dan

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JanR MSG #757, 03-08-2010 10:05 AM
      batousai666; The interior picture you found in Sweden is from my car :-)

http://se.fotoalbum.eu/sell699/a371587

/Jan R

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batousai666 MSG #758, 03-08-2010 12:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JanR:

batousai666; The interior picture you found in Sweden is from my car :-)

http://se.fotoalbum.eu/sell699/a371587

/Jan R




right on.
i was web surfin the 87 Mera keywords and found your car.
the thing is my language translator only did some of the posts, so i had to leave not knowing the language.
i was gonna ask you for more pictures.
actually your seats are orginal are'nt they? i hope?
i like the fact that they match.
OHHHH....yeah.
what is your Mera number???
and can you post your last 5 Vin #'s, please?
i am collecting 1987 Mera info so i can find my Mera build number from the missing ones.
so far i have:
7006=26352
7014=31556
7024=37125
7029=37163
7057=44555
7064=37710
7071=08240
thanks in advance.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #759, 03-08-2010 12:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Aloha everyone!

I love the beechwood interior of my Mera...but it's just a WIDE EXPANSE of brown everywhere.


So, I decided to purchase a set of grey arm rests, and I used this paint to re-paint them black.

Opinions??
Tom


here you go.how about this?
just messin around. i cannot color in the lines so well.

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batousai666 MSG #760, 03-08-2010 04:53 PM
      Tom's sister car.Mera #8045.
wonder if its still there?

(orginally posted by Chad87FB, on 9-10-2007)
So I'm at the shop today and a guy from a shop down the way comes by and asks me if I'd be interested in an '88 Fiero with a Ferarri body kit he picked up at auction last week. The price was reasonable so I said bring it by and I'll take a look. He gave me some b/w pictures to look at and I started reading up on what made a Mera a Mera. Sure looked like one in the pics.

The car was dropped off a few minutes ago and man is it rough. Real rough. Rust has not been kind to this thing.

1st thing I did was pop the rear hatch and sure enough... MERA Serail NO. 8045.
Here's a link to more pics:

http://www.hawaiian50.com/mera/

09-14-2007 03:32 PM

quote
Originally posted by Brian Lamberts:
What's you have to give for it? Nice find!



Hehehe, you really want to know what I paid for it? Here's a little story on this car:

A couple months ago a guy came up to my shop and asked if I'd be interested in a Fiero with a Ferrari kit. I asked wha shape the chassis was in and he said it was real rusty. He also said he didn't think it was a Mera. I wasn't looking for a project, especially for the $2k he was asking, so I passed.

Last week this car came up at auction and was purchased for... are you sitting down?... $300.

Come to find out, it's the same car. Nor sure why the guy thought it wasn't a Mera when the ID tag is there plain as day. Sure glad I didn't go get it for $2k

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JanR MSG #761, 03-08-2010 05:28 PM
      The seats are original. I´ve seen similar seats in a few other Meras with leather interior.
My Mera serial nr is 7005 and Vincode 26890.


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #762, 03-09-2010 06:47 AM
      my seats have been reupholstered in mr mikes leather with ferrari emblems stitched into the headrests. very nicely done and looks great but i would rather have the original mera seats... oh well. 7071 has the nicest interior i have seen in a fiero to date. previous owner just had the door panels, seats, center console, carpets, and headliner redone right before he wrecked it. and now i am installing a f308 dash in the car to replace the outdated fiero dash and gauges.

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batousai666 MSG #763, 03-09-2010 07:58 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JanR:

The seats are original. I´ve seen similar seats in a few other Meras with leather interior.
My Mera serial nr is 7005 and Vincode 26890.



right on JanR. thank you for the info.
WOW # 26890=Mera #7005.
this is disturbing seeing that there is a long way between you and me at 09384.
one cool thing is that we have the same seats as the '86....
and maybe this little tid-bit i found from this '86 pic



notice the "sharp points" on the ends of the grill. just like mine (and so far no one else).
how about you JanR? what do you have, sharp of rounded?



most of the guys here have these rounded off ones
these little things are starting too add up...... to a #'s 1-4 1987 Mera for me....yippie!
this is gettin good. so much fun. with the addition of the 1986 Mera, this gives us all a ZERO spot as a
start of the OEM Mera stuff. and will point out the afterthought Mods added or deleted as production
carries on from Mera #6001, if you will. soo cool!
anyway have a treat in my e-mail account. be back, bearing gifts.
Later,
D

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batousai666 MSG #764, 03-09-2010 08:21 AM
      THE 1986 PONTIAC MERA #6001








THANKS TO RON! (Paced84) he says more to follow. I personally cannot wait.
maybe a bribe is in order. any takers??? kidding. i would like to see this car in person. so many pictures to take.
....i hope to find this car "on tour" this summer at local car shows....this is my new Quest....
"here he goes again".... you all can say it....
later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #765, 03-09-2010 09:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

my seats have been reupholstered in mr mikes leather with ferrari emblems stitched into the headrests. very nicely done and looks great but i would rather have the original mera seats... oh well. 7071 has the nicest interior i have seen in a fiero to date. previous owner just had the door panels, seats, center console, carpets, and headliner redone right before he wrecked it. and now i am installing a f308 dash in the car to replace the outdated fiero dash and gauges.




ok, this has got me thinking.
playing the devils advocate....here and all....dont shoot me
but after all the body panels are fixed...replaced NEW with your molds
and the interior is swapped..and engine right?
whats left thats OEM?
dont take this line of inquiry wrong...
its that these are the questions i need/have been trying to answer myself.
what is a Mera??? and what makes a Mera, Mera?
you are taking it up a bit, being the first of us to do/have to do major body work...you are settin precidence for the future..


i ask this because i have the opposite view. i want all the my stuff OEM. both Mera and Fiero.
like this (lower air dam) i have to fix somehow...JB weld or something


cannot see too well...
the production dials point to 9/2. for a date of September 2nd 1986.
my Fiero was made in Oct 1986....alls releative....
anywhoo...

my undocumented Mera has, too me, has a lot of these OEM things ...

1-a 2 slat front aluminum grill
2-manual Vitroloni drivers mirror...powered passenger side
3-pointed rear engine grill
4-OEM leather seats. but, thats a Fiero option. i just found this fact, on the Mera brouchure
5-altho no sticker. Rodney himself has admitted that early Meras had no stickers....
so thats what,Like 5 things pointing in the right direction?....Happy Daze......
ohhhh....and the fact that my Mera may have had the back up lights added after by a P.O.
i have reason to believe that my reverse lights may have been added way later.
if this is true then i may actually have something here.
the thrill of the hunt continues for a 2nd season...later
Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #766, 03-09-2010 11:14 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

Tom's sister car.Mera #8045.
wonder if its still there?

(orginally posted by Chad87FB, on 9-10-2007)



Dan, here's a thread that might interest you.

http://www.paradisecruisers...ex.php?topic=13086.0



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #767, 03-09-2010 11:23 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

the thrill of the hunt continues for a 2nd season...later
Dan



Nice to have something to do during your long winters. Remember your mom's admonition--"idle hands are the devil's hands." ;-)



batousai666 MSG #768, 03-09-2010 11:32 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Dan, here's a thread that might interest you.

http://www.paradisecruisers...ex.php?topic=13086.0



seems fair to say its still over there. thanks Holmes.
Later
Dan


batousai666 MSG #769, 03-09-2010 11:41 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Nice to have something to do during your long winters. Remember your mom's admonition--"idle hands are the devil's hands." ;-)

soo true....

with today being 50 before noon tho, i may have to take a spin in Mera X with no insurance....thats the Devils works....tsk,tsk...
guess i'll just play underneath, and fix that air dam, and fix the Temp guage, it is peggin and showing inaccurate measurements
later,
D

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #770, 03-09-2010 08:47 PM
      Dan has an interesting point. My Mera's sister car, #8045, was rusted beyond repair. Someone bought it, then resold it to someone who was going to take the panels off and put them onto another Fiero chassis. Apparently they did not follow through, and somewhere on this island, the panels of #8045 are sitting in some storage room/shed. Man, it would be great to get a hold of them and put them on my 88GT. Now, if I did that, and I ensured that the key ID points that make a Mera are swapped/changed, who could really say that was not a real Mera? Without some sort of list from Corporate Concepts, on Corporate Concepts Letterhead, that lists EXACTLY what Mera # corresponds to what VIN, date of conversion, etc., then who could really prove that I did not have a "real" Mera? I know Rodney has the Registry, but I think that is formulated from owners' inputs, if I'm not mistaken.

And taking that one step further, without such a list (or an original sales receipt and conversion window sticker), who can really prove in writing, that ANY Mera is a actually a "real" Mera (i.e., the panels match the VIN conversion)?


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #771, 03-09-2010 10:03 PM
      Guess what, I have a document from CC that has both the vin and te Mera serial--and the dealer's signature. I would imagine those are rare.

Tom, I knew that is I posted that URL, it would get you back in the conversation.

Dick


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #772, 03-09-2010 10:55 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

and fix the Temp guage, it is peggin and showing inaccurate measurements
later,
D



There is a rewiring scheme that will fix that--I didn't do it soon enough and it knocked my temp reading off. It's still precise, but no longer accurate--I have to add about a half scale.



Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #773, 03-10-2010 12:47 AM
      Hi Dick...still here, but been on sick leave for three weeks now. Came down with a shingles attack, of all places, left scalp and left part of forehead. For a while, I was looking like a cross between Rocky and a Klingon. That shingles thing is a real killer! The welts and bumps have gone away, but still having major headaches. Just taking it easy for a while, since I have a lot of accumulated sick leave.

LOL...you best keep that Mera documentation in a safety deposit box!

I'm working on another cheap but (maybe) very cool mod. Here's a teaser pic (the black thing on the plastic green cup)...primed and painted, will install it on the weekend and see if it actually works.



Anyone want to guess what it is??

Tom

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #774, 03-10-2010 01:47 AM
      dan the answer to your question that is directed at 7071 is since the car was very badly hurt in the accident the only thing to do is replace the body panels as i have done. as far as the interior that was the p.o. i have left the engine and trans in 7071 so far and likely will. but i did do the brembo brake upgrade and tubular suspension upgrade to it. as far as original mera the core of 7071 is still there/frame and inner workings. as for if 7071 is the real deal rodney had my vin and 7071 tagged long before i owned her. so no getting around that she is the real deal. although skin wise she has had some changes. as you and i have discussed before of my replacement panels will raise issues of fakes or real.... i only like to sell to actual mera owners and although i would build a complete kit for someone its very unlikely it will happen because of my labor rate 100.00hr making the price of the kit around 12500.00. not many ppl these days gonna throw down 12500.00 for an older out dated ferrari body kit based on a fiero. as far as 8045 goes im sure if someone wanted to and did their homework they could put all the parts on another same yr fiero and pass it off.... but then thats up to their conscience at that point. we all make our cars OUR cars... personalizing them in certain ways. i think its up to you and how you see your car. i would love an original mera but wont spend 25grand to get it. my 7071 is in my opinion the perfect mera doing it how i see fit. others wont agree but thats our own individuality. its what makes you happy dan. happy motoring, mike in oklahoma

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #775, 03-10-2010 02:39 AM
      I'd agree. No matter how "original" you want to make it, everyone will still personalize their Mera. And that's cool!...that's what makes this hobby so great! To each their own! If I were more mechanically-inclined, I'd do more of the mechanical mods. But alas, I stick to the easy stuff.

IF I were able to obtain the panels of 8045 and put it on another frame, I wouldn't pass it off as an original Mera though. I would still document it though, if possible, with the original VIN, just to maintain the history of the car. LOL...and then I'd modify that baby to the max!

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batousai666 MSG #776, 03-10-2010 08:02 AM
      morning all. and welcome back.

1st a guess....
Tom? missed ya buddy.
Does it have to do with the cigarette lighter? A insulated lighter delete. no, seems its sittin on a washer so its big.
insulated cup holder with cover.

I agree with all said....
with a sticker and/or that sheet that Richard has, its a done deal...with the back-up of Rodneys list, as a confirmation.
this is all i see his list as. reference only. as a 4th qualifier with the sticker being #1. dealer ship paperwork a strong #2 and #3,
the car its self.
the Truth is in the sticker and maybe the data sheet Richard has, are it!
minus the car itself not complying, but that could be "Personalizations added/deleted.
if the P.O. of my car did in fact cut the Ford Tail lights in then, my car t is a step away from OEM. and i will rectify.
cept i like the lights as is....
another quirk in my situation.

also, that's only the 2nd owners sheet i have seen. worries me, but it was interesting when i found someone with another.
a back up!

in my eyes, as long as early Meras had no stickers and I'm not on Rodneys list
i feel like i cannot claim Mera. as a selling point should i have to sell or something...
but in Mikes case he (by all rights) claims 7071 cuz of the Rodney list and sticker,
not by actual panels....thats a weird senerio in its own right...

its never cut and dry with me. ever.sorry

on to the case of 8045.
this set has brought to mind the question of differences between 88 Mera and 87 Mera package only accoutraments.
you should never see a 88 Mera on a 86 built Fiero and vice-versa.(87 Mera on 88 fiero)
you will see 88 Meras on 87 Fieros, tho not by VIN.
so theres a self limit to where i can stop and in a way start, the search for the missing 87 Meras.

...with this shell i would do just that, Mod to the Top.
Mera 8045 -"Fastest Mera on the planet" next to Fiero X "Fastest Fiero on the Planet" "the race of all races vs supercars"
i want to set this up on Top Gear or something...
would be nice to have the freedom "to get at it" ( like Mike, lucky dog ) and swap some speed in and update the inner workings.
this is why i have to let go of my Mera quest for now...its too painful.

if i knew i had Mera i could drop the engine swap and focus on making a show quality Mera...
without Mera, i would start to tear it apart today for the fast engine swap.
learn as i go....
i am just gonna let it go....kinda
later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #777, 03-10-2010 08:26 AM
      on with the kinda

i feel its safe to say that Meras have yellow fiberglass on the inside of the panels anyway. agreed?
i say this because most all of the kits i have seen on the NET are white.
i hope the 86 confirms this.


not like earlier (20 min ago)
i do think my car, Mera. its just no sticker and NOW no paperwork....i get further and further away.
the thing is, the trip taking me further and further is just a paper trip....some data sheet and a sticker.

reality states someone went to a lot of trouble to make a good "Mera replica" with my car seeing that it has all
early Mera traits. one of them being of all things, NO STICKER.
sooo i sit and cry about it and time slips by....when i should just Personalize the crap out of it like you all said

remember this is the future.....


P.S. hey Richard...... i was working on the Temp gauge yesterday when you posted, thanks friend.
it was peggin, now it sits at 100 all the time when running. fixed the peggin, now something else is bust.
typical. i do know better than to mess with electronics but i have to learn somehow.
so its off to the parts store.
later you guys, sorry of the whining and all....hope you feel me, dough.
Later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #778, 03-10-2010 10:38 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Here's a handy document to have. Note the information in the upper right--Mera Conversion, e.g. 8046, and the VIN.




you know? i could never read the handwritten stuff here. looks like its has been whitted out.. is that a word? whitted?
i am looking for the other one i have seen.
later
Dan


Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #779, 03-10-2010 11:52 AM
      Dan, just consider your ride as a unique Mera! And in a way, just like everyone else's Mera! I highly doubt there are two Meras EXACTLY alike...just like there is probably no "original" Mera, EXACTLY how it rolled off the Corporate Concepts' line. Look at that 86...yeah, may be the First One, but with the Ferrari badging, its suffering from a mixed identity crisis.

Nope, not a cup holder. I just used that green cup to hold it while I painted it. Guess again!

Tom

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #780, 03-10-2010 12:38 PM
      dan i think you very likely have an early mera. too many mera traits. if you do decide to customize it just keep the original mera parts on a shelf or something. i am building a 88 coupe with my panels/already installed, with my brembo brakes, with my coilovers, with my tubular suspension, with a ls2 v8, and with my modified getrag... it will look like a mera mostly but it isnt... its all about personalization. later, mike in oklahoma

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #781, 03-10-2010 01:00 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


looks like its has been whitted out.. is that a word? whitted?

Dan


The purchaser is blanked out, but the dealers name was left in--Bob Longpre Pontiac, LA, CA. He's still there, thinking of asking him if he has more documentation.

Tom, glad you're better! I had a similar ailment when I was in tech school at Keesler--uh, over a half century ago! The medics tried everything and gave up--gave me two weeks convalescent leave and told me to go back to class. So, I spent the two weeks on the beach, and in about 10 days it was all gone--healing power of the sun!

I would encourage you to save #8045--that's my "sister" car, too (#8046)

Dan, I would check the re-wiring you did first. If, before rewiring, it pegged, you know the circuit is good, and if it registered, you know the sender and gauge are good. Do you have the rewire schematic? I can see if I can find it if you don't.

Just found it-- http://www.fierosails.com/tempgage.html

Dick

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JanR MSG #782, 03-10-2010 04:55 PM
      batousai666; I have sharp ends. Common on early cars? (my mera is nr 5)

JanR MSG #783, 03-10-2010 05:10 PM
      By the way...my Mera has no production number sticker...just a paint code sticker...

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #784, 03-10-2010 09:53 PM
      tom... i got it i got it... its a cap for the little green alien cup its on? lmao

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #785, 03-11-2010 12:49 AM
      Mike, too funny! Nope, guess again!

Dick, when you check with that Pontiac dealer, check on mine and 8045. All three had that same custom interior done. As for the shingles, I think I'm mostly over it. I used Dodgerunner's home remedy to reduce the itching...apple cider vinegar. About 8 people told me its caused by stress.

Dan, when you get a chance, can you post some pics of your 2-slat grill under the front bumper? I suppose the PO removed mine, so its like wide open to the radiator. I'd like to try and replicate it somehow. (Yeah...don't laugh too hard!)

Tom

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batousai666 MSG #786, 03-11-2010 07:43 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JanR:

batousai666; I have sharp ends. Common on early cars? (my mera is nr 5)

HAPPY DAYS.
here that boys......the International Connection comes thru with a home run!!!
thanks this is fresh new info. for season 2 "MERA QUEST"
JanR? can you send me photos of you car? millions of them?
and any info you can spare. like when and from where you got Mera #7005.
next to the 1986 proto ,you have the oldest Mera i have seen or have heard of.
unless, i give you a run for your money.

post em here or you can Email them to me and i can do it. if ya want.


woohooo...this is great. if #7005 has been over in Europe for awhile then its safer to say that it stayed OEM, due
to their lack of, how you say.... "western influences"..." if it has not been F-car'ed out by know... it never will...."
type thinking...
as far as the ole 2 slat....Bamm


i'll get better ones if the sun comes out. with better close-ups than these



later,
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #787, 03-11-2010 08:02 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JanR:

batousai666; I have sharp ends. Common on early cars? (my mera is nr 5)

your car sets precedence with the fact you have the sharp points also. as far as "early Meras" go.
makes me very happy knowing i share 2 traits with #5 out of 88. sharp points on grill and them seats. RULES!!
granted they could have been rounded off by a P.O.
but the fact that they are not signals either, a repair/replace or OEM.
this is great news....
do you happen to have the 2 slat front alum. grill and maybe a NON-powered drivers side Vitaloni mirror?
ohh....and seems that early 87's did not have Cormodora rims....and the queen mother of all..... with or without
back-up lights??? what you got ??? so far maybe super early Meras (thats you) have no white Ford back ups??
i hope NO! then that post from my P.O. totally makes scence.


these in my opinion, are some of the major differences i have found with other known, later made Meras. mostly in the '88's.
the earliest stickered Mera on record is (from my records) Nelsons Grey Mera #57. i think. need to orginize this mess
of paper...
later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #788, 03-11-2010 08:22 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JanR:

By the way...my Mera has no production number sticker...just a paint code sticker...



in the trunk???

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batousai666 MSG #789, 03-11-2010 08:40 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

I would encourage you to save #8045--that's my "sister" car, too (#8046)

Dan, I would check the re-wiring you did first. If, before rewiring, it pegged, you know the circuit is good, and if it registered, you know the sender and gauge are good. Do you have the rewire schematic? I can see if I can find it if you don't.

Just found it-- http://www.fierosails.com/tempgage.html

Dick




yep, this is the thread i used to do this task. thanks for the effort.
thought i had it, but the whole cluster has to come apart. all made in plastic and i am not gentle.....its old and brittle...
hate it....so i am in the eng. compartment with a new sensor and wires...
i will go from there....

thanks again, Richard.
as far as #8045, i joined paradise cruzers website, so i have more acess to find the kit for you Tommy.
what you say? still interested??
you know me, Dog will hunt!
later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #790, 03-11-2010 08:47 AM
      had something.....

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batousai666 MSG #791, 03-11-2010 10:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Guess what, I have a document from CC that has both the vin and te Mera serial--and the dealer's signature. I would imagine those are rare.


Dick



first one of these}


ya got one anybody??
this would be real nice...too have.
there is a copy of the letter of warranty, like Richard has but i wont post for their privie...
here comes the sun later,
Dan

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #792, 03-11-2010 11:56 AM
      Hey Dan, thanks for those pics. Looks like its made from aluminum slats, and the pieces are just slotted and put together...and somehow all held together. That finance note with the "MERA" listed...that's pretty cool documentation. Now does that apply to your car?

Yeah, help me find 8045!
Tom


batousai666 MSG #793, 03-11-2010 01:35 PM
      will doo my best....
heres some slat pics for you.....if you want the bigger ones i'll have to email them to you...too big!
my old camera and my hyper-active blood makes me shake. thats why they are blurry...
hope you can work these....
later
Dan







reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #794, 03-11-2010 03:12 PM
      Hey, Dan, I have one of those grilles, too--never noticed before. Hey, at my age it's hard to get down that low--well, I can get down there, just can't get back up.

FYI:

http://sandiego.craigslist..../cto/1638485419.html

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #795, 03-12-2010 02:13 AM
      Thanks for the pics! Can you guys provide some measurements?

Width of individual slats:
The overall width the entire grill/slat section:
Dimensions of the bracket sections:

Thanks! LOL...now I just gotta figure out how to make the dang thing.


batousai666 MSG #796, 03-12-2010 09:26 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Thanks for the pics! Can you guys provide some measurements?

Width of individual slats:
The overall width the entire grill/slat section:
Dimensions of the bracket sections:

Thanks! LOL...now I just gotta figure out how to make the dang thing.


may take a couple days i am going out of town for a Rock and Roll show in Chi-town....but, can do Mon or Tue...

if memory serves....does not Rodney make a 3 slat replacement?....i looked and could not find.

he did admit, that the 2 Slat is OEM. in my eyes the 3 slat is like an aftermarket..
and Richard () having one on his 88, seems you should too.

this revelation was a early PLUS for me in the beginning...in the 'cphiering of my car.
that to me is a obscure detail that only a few, owners-type people would know.
later
D

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batousai666 MSG #797, 03-12-2010 09:29 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Thanks for the pics! Can you guys provide some measurements?

Width of individual slats:
The overall width the entire grill/slat section:
Dimensions of the bracket sections:

Thanks! LOL...now I just gotta figure out how to make the dang thing.



say?.....i will try to make you a trace pattern the best i can with what i have in my hand here.
should be accurate enough.
that way you can just trace the pattern on some flat stock, cut the slots in the brackets
and slide the slats in and weld.
fair enough??
i'll mail it too you!
or just maybe i'll have to stop by
eitherway, i'll get on that.
later
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #798, 03-12-2010 11:09 AM
      hey dan, please mail me the dimensions as well. mine is destroyed from the accident. thanks, mike

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #799, 03-12-2010 01:09 PM
      Thanks Dan! Will PM my address.

Mike, IF you are going to make one, and since I am sans welder/welding experience, do you think you can fabricate one for me? I'll be glad to pay; the lack of one has been bugging me for a long time!

Thanks,
Tom

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batousai666 MSG #800, 03-12-2010 02:50 PM
      roger that, guys....
i'll out of town all weekend so i wont get to it till way late on Mon...
is it o.k. for me to get ya'll a trace pattern???
or do you want to get all techinical on me....
i'll get out the dividers if need be
really all it is, is one bracket pattern and a slat pattern...all 5 of the brackets are the same
as is the 2 slats.
hit it back boys....
D


mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #801, 03-13-2010 06:44 AM
      HEY DAN, WHATEVER YOU SEND ME ILL MAKE IT WORK. TRACE PATTERN IS FINE. ILL LOAD IT INTO MY CAD PROGRAM AND HAVE IT LASERED OUT ON MY CNC TABLE LOL. FOR REAL THO... THANK YOU DAN.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #802, 03-13-2010 03:44 PM
      Okay, here's my low-cost mod, but still in the testing phase.

While at our local City Mill store (similar to Home Depot but smaller), I came across some black end caps. Not sure what they are made of...plastic or PVC. Anyways, they were like $3.00 each, so I bought a couple to experiment with.

After doing some measurements, I put some blue tape where I wanted the cut line, and used the good 'ol dremel to cut straight across one side of the curve:



And here's a side view showing the cut, after I had filed it down nice and flat.



And washing and drying it, I placed it on the green alien cup and shot it with primer and a couple coats of hi-temp paint.



And what are these for, you may ask??
>
>
>
>
I went from this:



to this:





By cutting off a small portion of the curve, the cap is able to expand slightly and fit on that small lip very tightly. And I had to cut a piece off to clear that bracket anyways. I doubt that it would have fit if I didn't cut a small portion off. Just to ensure it doesn't pop off, I put a small bead of silicon sealant on the inside while I installed it. There is about 1/4" clearance of that center strut bolt, so it "shouldn't" pop off. (LOL...famous last words). But since this is just a prototype, I'll let the silicon dry and do some driving along some curvy sections in East Oahu to see if the dang thing stays on. I only did the driver's side for now, to see how it holds up.

Tom



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #803, 03-13-2010 11:52 PM
      very nice work tom. very cool use.

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #804, 03-14-2010 11:01 PM
      Thanks Mike! I took it for a long drive this morning, purposely hit some bumps and curves, and it stayed put!

JanR MSG #805, 03-15-2010 08:24 AM
      Found this article from 2003...
Is this "our" Bob Bracey?
http://www.amsnow.com/sno/default.aspx?c=a&id=1121

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batousai666 MSG #806, 03-15-2010 08:59 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by JanR:

Found this article from 2003...
Is this "our" Bob Bracey?
http://www.amsnow.com/sno/default.aspx?c=a&id=1121



SUP?? i made it back.
did not know the ST Paddys parade, in Chicago, was the weekend before the actual holiday.
the city was packed way more than usual. still had a great time.

JanR,
YES. I do believe so.
He was married to a Carol in MI. Altmont is real close to Capac MI, home of C.C.
And the article talks about some history in the auto industry...so i vote yes...

thanks for the pics of your car....do you want me to post them here...or you got it??


Thomas??? you have been busy....New paint and such....the covers are awesome
did not see that for the flat spot...i do not have a need for the flat side out.
thats a good eye and attention to detail i wont have till
after all the heavy mods i have planned, are done.
you go you!

Michael??? i will be getting on that pattern for you soon. something came up, so by Friday. should have something.sorry
i'll just post the Measurements on here or will e-mail a you a drawing. in scale. cool
Later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #807, 03-15-2010 12:38 PM
      A TEST!


CRAP! o.k its like this.... the post picture on my little netbook is to scale, the cardboard cut out lines right up to the screen, but when i right click to "MY" stupid printer(smashwhoops..) it is like 20 % smaller???
damn machines.
sooo.....now what???
my ideas are sound/valid???maybe??.. but always seen hard/impossible to execute. why??
back to the drawing board, literally. numbers....duh.....i hate measuring, copying/trace patterns is more like art....right?
o.k. that a strech.....Later
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #808, 03-15-2010 01:43 PM
      other thing to mention is that the long slat cut out, needs to be deeper than shown on the brackets, end to center.
and that the mounting point bend, toward center. center one (looking at it mounted) points right.

As for the 2 long horizontal slats:-
over all length is 34" finished.
the two ends start at 15/16" (really) but who's splittin hairs.go for the full inch (shesaid)
first bracket starts at width 1 1/8"
next bracket in at 1 3/8 "width
and Centerline is at 1 7/16".
from center viceaversa. end bracket finishes at just shy of 1 1/8" from other end.
should work, eh....mates??
good'ay

Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #809, 03-15-2010 10:27 PM
      hey dan, thank you, i got it.

mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #810, 03-17-2010 01:24 PM
      bump

batousai666 MSG #811, 03-17-2010 04:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

hey dan, thank you, i got it.



no problemo! how they commin'? gonna work or you need more?
guess its only been a day or two.....Me hyper remember? sorry
in due time..

hey any of you have Mud flaps on your Meras??
Mera #7005



interesting.
i got some pics from JanR in Sweden.
yes, we have gone Overseas International. Europe. thats cool.
his car has 'em.
i think it looks cool, so i am gonna try some....
'nother cheap mod, Tommy?
them caps are too much ;-}
and some new red paint, looks good. BYE
Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #812, 03-17-2010 05:31 PM
      No mud flaps, but my lower rear quarter panels are painted black--I'd rather they were red.

batousai666 MSG #813, 03-18-2010 08:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

No mud flaps, but my lower rear quarter panels are painted black--I'd rather they were red.



get at 'er dogg.
mines got like a sticker down there. tis red tho.




later
D

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #814, 03-18-2010 11:28 AM
      Thanks for the measurements and the drawing Dan!

Mud flaps are very useful on the Mera, since that area is so "tucked in." I think they would look fine if done right, i.e., they don't stick out before dropping down. What would be cool if someone could fashion some "molded" flairs, I think you know what I mean. I see them on some cars, sorta like bolt-on fender flares, but they're just small pieces that go on where those flaps are located. But...on the other hand, that would then probably change the whole character of the car.

JanR: Beautiful car! Got more pics? Interior?

Tom

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #815, 03-18-2010 12:11 PM
      308gtb gruppe 4 cars had wider stock flares. they looked very cool. mike

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #816, 03-18-2010 01:40 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


mines got like a sticker down there. tis red tho.



Is that the 3M stuff--expensive but good.


batousai666 MSG #817, 03-18-2010 03:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Is that the 3M stuff--expensive but good.



the stuff was already there....i have know idea what it is, even
it is a sticker of some sort. i can't tell if its been painted....will look again tommarrow.
i kinda messed it up....whoops, needs some touch up now.

lets see......the mudflaps, its funny Tom mentions the need and i have a pic explaining why and where....MY car is filthy!

now to JanR- he sent me a ton of pics of his car.
i asked him if he wanted to post his pics, or have me do it and have not heard....so i do not know.
i think it was exported to Sweden in 1992 (he bought it in 2002)
so its been there for awhile. looks soo close to my car....
he did say that it was org. white and he will repaint to white....
He's our international older brother being #5 and all.
7005 is the earliest known Mera to me. Anybody else know an older one 'sides the '86?
wonder if Rodney has #1-4 on his list??


speaking of a list. do any of you '88 owners keep track of the 1988 Meras??
i really only feel strongly about the '87's because of the first run production, blah, blah.
i am a collector- rare cd's,bootleg concert videos,
bicycles, comics, cars, small metal/wood boxes...like an "American Picker"..(see that yet?)
anyway, the rarer the better....so as most of you know, i am gunnin' for 1-4....feel me?

i am just glad it was 60 all week and i got bit by the driving bug..gotta fix the Temp gauge by April 10th
thats when the Ins. kicks in....till then some touch up work.
Later,
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #818, 03-18-2010 03:48 PM
      check this out!


o.k. so you all know why i have this picture....right?
but i noticed that the red tail light looks, on the bottom, like it says something....like 4 letters and maybe a #.
do you agree?....see, i have the Carello reds (maybe another OEM '87 Mera thing) on Mera X, it came that way, and there is alot of writting down there and then i noticed that the lucky "Ferrari" pictured seems to be missin' the 2 piece "red triangle" that our cars have black sail panels on....am i seeing things??
because i do know that this Movie was made in the earlier 80's right....off to investigate.
Later,
Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #819, 03-18-2010 03:55 PM
      #7020?

http://tinyurl.com/yl9hs5q


batousai666 MSG #820, 03-18-2010 04:10 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

#7020?

http://tinyurl.com/yl9hs5q



you know i think i almost bought this car. it was in the local Auto Trader up here at the same time that i was bidding
on X. it was all white then. had to let go cuz i won X on e-bay....kinda have to buy then ehh?
saved $2000. is a sticker worth 2K???

seller wanted like $11,000 or $12,000
wish i had a job.
you know that last Mera went for less than $8000. hope this one goes high....for us.

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batousai666 MSG #821, 03-18-2010 04:25 PM
      dudes check the VIN on that two tone (i was hopping to be the 1st two tone Mera. Damn!) Mera linked by Holmes....
ITS 09643=7020
MY VIN is 09384=X....sooo cool. time to bring it on home....its gettin closer....my void to fill..
with this car my list has 11- 1987 Meras on it....onwiththeshow
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #822, 03-18-2010 09:34 PM
      HELLO ALL, I AM GOING TO KEEP MY MERA MOLDS AND UPGRADE PARTS. DUE TO RECENT HEALTH ISSUES I AM CONSIDERING SELLING MERA 7071 AND THE RUNNING AND DRIVING LITTLE 88 COUPE TEST MULE. ANY INTEREST? SELLING MY MERA POWER VITALONI MIRRORS TOO, AND OTHER PARTS. LET ME KNOW IF INTERESTED. MERA 7071 WILL INCLUDE ITS ORIGINAL BEAT UP PANELS BUT DOES NOT RESEMBLE THE PICS I HAVE OF IT ORIGINALLY BUT STILL NEEDS LOTS OF WORK. NUMBERS MATCHING CAR WITH ORIGINAL 2.8 AND GETRAG. MIKE IN OKLAHOMA

batousai666 MSG #823, 03-19-2010 09:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

HELLO ALL, I AM GOING TO KEEP MY MERA MOLDS AND UPGRADE PARTS. DUE TO RECENT HEALTH ISSUES I AM CONSIDERING SELLING MERA 7071 AND THE RUNNING AND DRIVING LITTLE 88 COUPE TEST MULE. ANY INTEREST? SELLING MY MERA POWER VITALONI MIRRORS TOO, AND OTHER PARTS. LET ME KNOW IF INTERESTED. MERA 7071 WILL INCLUDE ITS ORIGINAL BEAT UP PANELS BUT DOES NOT RESEMBLE THE PICS I HAVE OF IT ORIGINALLY BUT STILL NEEDS LOTS OF WORK. NUMBERS MATCHING CAR WITH ORIGINAL 2.8 AND GETRAG. MIKE IN OKLAHOMA



What????? MY well wishes go out to you and yours!
after finding all these Meras, we are loosing one???
Damn.....i do not know what to say.....for once
uhhhhh...............................

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #824, 03-19-2010 09:22 PM
      MERA VITALONI POWER MIRRORS FOR SALE ON EBAY. MERA OEM TAILLIGHTS FOR SALE ON EBAY. F430 WHEELS AND TIRES FOR SALE ON EBAY.

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #825, 03-19-2010 11:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


saved $2000. is a sticker worth 2K???




Heck no! You don't have one and you've never had so much fun!! If you had a sticker we'd never hear from you.



batousai666 MSG #826, 03-20-2010 08:17 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Heck no! You don't have one and you've never had so much fun!! If you had a sticker we'd never hear from you.



HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Thats funny.... NO way. i am too hyperactive to be quiet..
i have a hard time NOT expressing myself.
ask any of my old school teachers!
so i doubt that you would "never" hear from me...
...but, the content would have been way different, maybe. more about the car, not the ancilliary paperwork associated....
and without all the crying/whining.....its funny after almost a year and to me, now, no sticker is a good thing
should one(and i do) want an early example of the MERA.

i PM'd Rodney to see, if he is willing to share his data on the '87 Meras.
i have offered to, in the least, help to catalog the 87's for us Mera owners. sooo...hopefully.


yesterday, I called the Insurance Co. about:
"My Friend the Mechanic."
"He lives "about 30 miles away, one way"
"soo please can i have a INS. rider, for one Day?"

Rider issued at 12:30 PM so i spent over 3/4 a tank feeling X out for any problems.....out at 12:30 pm-home at 5:30pm
out in the country, 15 miles from home 80mph or so come up behind of all things a bright red Fiero. like a Formula or SE
that was a trip. not sure if he noticed me behind him...i had turned shortly after...

The Verdict: All Is Well!!
'cept, i need to fix my Temp gauge. i messed it up, playing around.
any body got info. about adding an extra, newer gauge??

still have a front end shimmy between 40-60 MPH (i think its a balancing/weights thing)
but, between 60-110MPH (highway) seems to smooth right out, even on MI's, hokey roads.
from 60 to 90 MPH, the get-up-an-go is amazing....getyasum.
on the Highway, when you wanna pass, floor it, most impressive that it is!
after driving my Trans Am last, in the fall, the Mera was not a dissapointment at all. this little car has gots it.
after the 3800 swap...i cannot imagine the HP gains and what it will do to this current observation of mine but....
OK i'll stop lying....vroom,vroom....baby. cant wait.....Fiero X i am commin for ya.
it may just take a while longer than planned.
stupid economy....

anyway time for breakfast....be back later.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #827, 03-20-2010 08:28 AM
      ohh...i forgot...the white/black Mera (#7020) on e bay, is the one that was in the local auto trader. i emailed the guy.
he said he did talk to me on the phone last year. nice lookin car.
off to check it out.

D

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batousai666 MSG #828, 03-20-2010 08:34 AM
      FLIP! COME ON LUCKY #22!
and......


batousai666 MSG #829, 03-20-2010 08:35 AM
      .......craps!!!!!

batousai666 MSG #830, 03-20-2010 11:27 AM
      whilest staring at the Ebay add for Mera #7020, I noticed that it is an SE.
according to a Mera article i have and the fact that SE's were low units produced, by GM...
i feel that this Mera is a special one. both as a Mera and a Fiero...like mine as a Fiero but way more in the Mera area.
stupid stickers. no whining...sorry. :Pout:
WISH I HAD A JOB!!!!
in for more punishment.
Dan

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #831, 03-20-2010 01:33 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


still have a front end shimmy between 40-60 MPH (i think its a balancing/weights thing)




How old are your tires? I have a shimmy at about 65--took it in for a balance, and they said my tires were way out of round, and wouldn't do it anyway as the tires are too old. Oh, well, so I drive 60--or 95!

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batousai666 MSG #832, 03-20-2010 03:09 PM
      thats a good question.
i have been trying to find examples of the Centerline rims...not paying attention to the tires, at all.
the age? I do not know. i also would like to find the age of these rims i have. a model # too...
i have done a centerline rim search on their web site and it says that "no known match found"
this may be the problem...on the back/inner side theres piles of weights glued on printed with a 1/4 on it.
bunches of them....also most likely the problem.....anyway,
looking for cheap jack stands so i can take the rims off for the first time ever..soo more pictures to follow.
uhhhhh.....*drawsblank*
later,
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #833, 03-20-2010 03:23 PM
      DAN I HAVE SOME WHEELS AND TIRES FOR YOU.... FERRARI F430 19" WITH MICHELIN PILOTS ALL BRAND NEW..... WOULD MAKE SOMEONE A HUGE DEAL ON THEM THIS WK....

Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #834, 03-20-2010 03:40 PM
      A little cross-referencing to my next upcoming mod.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/080157.html

Mike, are you getting out of Fiero/Meras completely?


batousai666 MSG #835, 03-20-2010 04:45 PM
      sorry double post

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batousai666 MSG #836, 03-20-2010 04:59 PM
      sorry Mike.
way out of my price range, i'm sure.
Me? real Ferrari? not without a job. well i did get an increase in my tax refund from the IRS.
they found $400 i missed, real nice of them!
i guess you could shoot a PM with the price. but without a job. i not too sure.

besides, my favorite band got back together this summer and i got two tickets...
now i have to get plane tix and hotel...for the big city. New York. i said it was gonna be a good summer
this show is gonna rule! Happy Daze!
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #837, 03-20-2010 05:26 PM
      hey dan, yes and no. yes im getting rid of it all except the molds. maybe next yr if my health returns ill build one then. for now medical costs are killing me financially. mike

Mr Ferrari (mratcliff@frontiernet.net) MSG #838, 03-21-2010 06:58 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IMSA GT:


Hey Dan, if you have not seen yet, he is a new member here. Here is the link.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/079346.html



Nice work on the Mera.. It's looking great with the Mera badging and all the detailing you have done to clean it up..

Hey, I recogonize that Aldino, and the driveway, and the minivan.. Hey, that's my Aldino, driveway, minivan, oh and my house.. hehe..




mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #839, 03-22-2010 01:08 AM
      bump

batousai666 MSG #840, 03-22-2010 09:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr Ferrari:
Nice work on the Mera.. It's looking great with the Mera badging and all the detailing you have done to clean it up..

Hey, I recogonize that Aldino, and the driveway, and the minivan.. Hey, that's my Aldino, driveway, minivan, oh and my house.. hehe..




i love your car, not the mini

An Aldino, will be the next "toy" i will be gettin.
should the job market pick up.
till then i have to jack the HorsePowerUp, in me MERA X.
should hold me for a year or two.
i am gonna turbo the 2.8 till she blows. I will be attempting this anyway. we will see.


Dan

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Mr Ferrari (mratcliff@frontiernet.net) MSG #841, 03-22-2010 05:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
i love your car, not the mini

An Aldino, will be the next "toy" i will be gettin.
should the job market pick up.
till then i have to jack the HorsePowerUp, in me MERA X.
should hold me for a year or two.
i am gonna turbo the 2.8 till she blows. I will be attempting this anyway. we will see.


Dan



When she finally blows throw a 3800sc in her..
Here is my Aldino in drag trim at the track..

In street trim..



Here is my old 4.9 Caddy v8 Mera clone I had for a Couple of years..







Mr Ferrari (mratcliff@frontiernet.net) MSG #842, 03-22-2010 06:11 PM
      I always wanted to paint my 308 replica black like this..

What do you all think of a Mera in black.?





hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #843, 03-23-2010 09:42 AM
      One of my Meras was originally black if I remember the paint code sticker correctly.

Nelson


batousai666 MSG #844, 03-23-2010 02:14 PM
      here you go friend.
Mera clone, all black.



and this is a real 308....

whoops...wrong one.....CRAP! it wont delete!!!!

i have found all kinds of Mera and Mera clones on the net.
i have seen your Mera at the track, dont you have a youtube??
your 308 looks real good.
but that Aldino
i gotta have one soon.
i'll get somemore pics, later....seems i got a real nasty lung infection and its killing me.
the green/black/red nasty. in the chest kind....hurts..
i have been sleeping all day and last night too....woke up with a 101deg. fever.
so i guess i have to take it easy.....but i got more somewhere.
later
Dan

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #845, 03-23-2010 06:30 PM
      Dano!! My left eye is still recovering my shingles attack, and I had to see that last pic!!?? LOL...I need more eye drops...

Mr Ferrari (mratcliff@frontiernet.net) MSG #846, 03-23-2010 09:42 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Dano!! My left eye is still recovering my shingles attack, and I had to see that last pic!!?? LOL...I need more eye drops...


Haha.. That picture is most disturbing.. Maybe if you use something stronger in your eye drops like sulfuric acid you might burn that image out of your eye, but unfortunately the image has been burned into your brain so the damage is already done..



batousai666 MSG #847, 03-24-2010 03:19 AM
      sorry Tommy!
i had that one missed labeled.
this is the one.
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nope, this one!

not it!


thats it...see a real Ferrari 308, Black.
knew i had one.hahahahahaha! sorry its the Medicine talkin. i am real sick. half a bottle of Day-Quil. at 3:30 am
should have gotten the Night-Quil.
D
Dan

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #848, 03-24-2010 04:51 AM
      Dano...Its a good thing I can touch type....cuz I've gone blind!

The black is very nice, but a little too much black for me. Perhaps if the side and back grills were maybe gunmetal gray to break it up a little?

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batousai666 MSG #849, 03-24-2010 05:18 AM
      as for them pics .
i dont know what that is??? GTBoy or GTirl?....
dont stare too long. you may notice something.

yeah, to much black. i like other colors for the body's of cars because i tint my windows for that Two-Tone look.
looks real good with red. black is sooooo......black. its hard to see the details too me. 2 colors do break it up, some.
d

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batousai666 MSG #850, 03-24-2010 05:30 AM
      seems one of us, is trying to become owner of old #7020.
GOOD LUCK! i so wish i could give you a run for your money.
seems someone needs to out bid you to see the reserve.
hope its more than what i paid for Mera X.
that one Mera. #7064 i believe, went cheap.
i hope this one #7020 sets a price precidence for early Meras. the Rarest of the rare.

D

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batousai666 MSG #851, 03-24-2010 05:52 AM
      speaking of black though......
how about these??


i am not sure if these are real....or painted or what.
but i thought they looked like the Cromodoras...'cept real F-car. (i think) as Richard calls it.
i got this image from a German site somewhere....next to them one pics.....
later,
D


batousai666 MSG #852, 03-24-2010 05:56 AM
      ohhh...look at these.


16" 308 wheels in silver.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£695



308 16" wheel gold

16" 308 wheels in gold.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£735



308 16" wheel anthracite

16" 308 wheels in Gunmetal.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£735



308 16" wheel black

16" 308 wheels in black.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£735



from a site called "Superformance.co.uk". under catagory 308.
they have everything from badges to all the body panels..

*EDIT*
WHERES THE BLOODY PICTURES, MATE!
i really do hate these computers.....
(after posting each pic)....i wonder if these would fit the Meras??
D

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Fiero-in-Paradise (masashi1955@hawaiiantel.net) MSG #853, 03-24-2010 07:36 AM
      Nice wheels. You'd need adaptors I'm sure.

reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #854, 03-24-2010 11:24 AM
      Nice looking car--interesting color. Is it really a Mera?

http://www.classifiedads.co...tiques-ad2628717.htm


batousai666 MSG #855, 03-24-2010 11:34 AM
      man everybody is stealing my ideas..... ok so they were first to do it......


he put a wing/spoiler on it...looks cool. now i know i can do it.
wonder what the wing came off of ?? i like the color. kinda like wine, burgandy color.
SHARP. only $5500. too bad its an '88.
as for it being Mera. it looks real close....need more pics.
i e-mailed the guy a request.

D

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hnthomps (hnt100@aol.com) MSG #856, 03-24-2010 11:41 AM
      I sent him an e-mail asking for interior pictures and the MERA build number. I will let everyone know what (if anything) I receive in reply. No answer at the listed phone number either.

Nelson

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #857, 03-24-2010 05:13 PM
      nelson thank you for your purchase of the vitaloni power mirrors and the qtr louvers. happy motoring. mike in oklahoma

batousai666 MSG #858, 03-25-2010 09:08 AM
      All Right who got it??????
Mera 7020 went for $8600.
less than i paid for X.
whats up with the resale on these!? i guess if they bought 7020 for a swap its the same thing.
when talking about the 2.8. guess i answered my own ????soo helpful i am to myself
go to the kitcar sites and their panels, with car, mostly the Lambos, are $20,000+.
granted they also have V-8's. but, too me a real kitter should be all over these Meras just for the panels.
why is this sooo....weird? guess our panels are not close enough to the real thing.
this brings a question i asked earlier.

do all Ferrari 308's have the two piece upper rear triangle? on the side view. the "hatchback" part. i think...
see the free hand arrows here..
*EDIT* NOPE FOUND IT...straight down from roof...kinda. please disreguard. i's still learning.



i ask this cuz the F-car pic with Ms. Brinkley above seens to not have this feature....or is it just me??? again
hit it back
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #859, 03-25-2010 09:47 AM
      sneakie little devil.
i have never seen a real 308 in person....kinda of ashamed

found this tho.....enjoyX2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz-z_TeJObU

think if we put a Ferrari exhaust in the Mera, it would sound the same?
D

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #860, 03-25-2010 02:17 PM
      yes dan all real 308's have the hatch triangle you speak of. only deviation is the 288 gto which has a very similar sail panel line but only the rear lid lifts just like a mera.

batousai666 MSG #861, 03-26-2010 06:42 AM
      thanks Mike. i do not know what i was thinking??
i guess i was not looking at the car

Dan



mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #862, 03-27-2010 12:01 AM
      dan.... its all good.... hey dan..... shhhhh its a secret from my wife but im keeping 7071. if i make it look like its for sale its all good lol

batousai666 MSG #863, 03-27-2010 07:18 AM
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
MIKE you so crazy.....
i was wondering what was up???
i kinda left it.....i am not one to pry.....most times.
thats good....i'da missed ya.

I was hoping to meet you at a show or something.....
i am trying to get my Brother to help me to get Mera X ready for some roadtrips this summer.
thought OK was as far West as i could get.
i am gunna leave the 2.8 in and see what she got as far as longevity....how long it will last?? we will see.
then hopefully the jobs start by next year!! for the big HP swap.

glad to see you here.
Later.
D

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batousai666 MSG #864, 03-27-2010 07:25 AM
      ohhhh....i got a reply from the Burgandy Mera....does not know about the Mera sticker and only interested
in real buyers....no "Lookie Lous" he sent somemore pics.they are not much for detail. and will not load.
pretty sure that cuz of something on his end. i told him about this place...maybe he will pop in. never know.
sooo we will see...maybe.
D

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Rick 88 MSG #865, 03-27-2010 11:53 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

ohhh...look at these.


16" 308 wheels in silver.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£695



308 16" wheel gold

16" 308 wheels in gold.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£735



308 16" wheel anthracite

16" 308 wheels in Gunmetal.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£735



308 16" wheel black

16" 308 wheels in black.
Set of four (2 x8" and 2 x 7")
£735



from a site called "Superformance.co.uk". under catagory 308.
they have everything from badges to all the body panels..

*EDIT*
WHERES THE BLOODY PICTURES, MATE!
i really do hate these computers.....
(after posting each pic)....i wonder if these would fit the Meras??
D



I like the gold wheels. I might get my Chromadoras powdercoated this color. Opinions please.......


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #866, 03-27-2010 07:15 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:


think if we put a Ferrari exhaust in the Mera, it would sound the same?




Try 180 degree headers--F-cars fire on alternating cylinder banks, 180 headers sound like it. There are YouTube vids on the web, give a listen.

OBTW, Fiero/Mera interiors are much better than the F-308s. F-328s got better.


buger (buger@verizon.net) MSG #867, 03-28-2010 06:00 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Mr Ferrari:

I always wanted to paint my 308 replica black like this..

What do you all think of a Mera in black.?




Wow, This is my 1987 308, i had her for 3yrs. Sold her a few months back to a buyer in Spain. I have always wanted a black 308 ! Who ever p/s the black paint, nice job !


batousai666 MSG #868, 03-28-2010 08:07 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


Try 180 degree headers--F-cars fire on alternating cylinder banks, 180 headers sound like it. There are YouTube vids on the web, give a listen.

OBTW, Fiero/Mera interiors are much better than the F-308s. F-328s got better.



thanks Richard
....180 degree headders you say??
do they sell these at the Fiero Store, hahahaha!
i have seen whole F-Car exhaust systems for well over $2300.
so if these headders are athuentic F-car. way too expensive for me.
would rather have the engine swap. and buy me a coffee with the change.

i am gonna check into a new Fiero only shop near me for some insight.

i want too, in the least, get Mera X to be able to have a worry free summer.

tune up, replace worn parts. and the suspention. the big engine swap will have to wait.

Yeah! a summer of worry free road trips.....
car shows, the BIG lake, camping up North in MI
Rock n Roll shows in Chicago.CASINOS......

hope this is not too much $$$$?

as far as youtube....i spend way too much time there as is....
i love hooking my computer up to the home theater and cranking up the "Exhaust Note" vids.
sometimes it shakes the house....so awesome!
thats when i found that "Vacation" vid at....that vid sounds sooo good.
then theres the opening of the movie-"CannonBall Run" sooo nice. LAMBO!!!

i have been lookin for a good Exhaust combo for ole X, because its still too cold to work on. i know Wuss.....right.
well i am sensitive to the season change.. i mean Winter to Spring and from Summer to Fall only.
started when i turned 30 or so.
see, a couple weeks ago it was over 60 and i got sick. Lung infection.
a combo of bathroon/spring cleaning chemicals, dust/dander and
laying on the garages', freezing cold floor. BLAMO! sick.
i am feeling way better now. but still *coughsuplung* its there.

anywho, i do not need the medicine anymore so big dad is on the mend....prepare yourselves....
its supposed to be like 70 here next week....its on! or should i say..."its off".
time for the sawz-all. and the C.C. lets see what that does
later-
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #869, 03-28-2010 08:52 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Rick 88:


I like the gold wheels. I might get my Chromadoras powdercoated this color. Opinions please.......



go for it.
only one question tho...will that hurt the collector value?? they are rare. the Pentaspoke Cromodoras. right??
at least try a mock up or PhotoShop if you are curious.

go check out the thread ".....PhotoShop open lets see....." something, something....Nochie will hook it up for you.
he realizised Mera X for me. all slammed with a custom paint. even a wing...hes good.
check it out.
Dan

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mera7 (okiemom777@aol.com) MSG #870, 03-29-2010 04:37 AM
      dan to get the sound your looking for run stainless 409 custom equal length headers into dual primaries then to a tubi stainless chambered muffler. sound is distinctly european. probably around $3500.00 for the setup or just throw in a sbc or a nstar for same money lol

batousai666 MSG #871, 03-29-2010 10:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by mera7:

dan to get the sound your looking for run stainless 409 custom equal length headers into dual primaries then to a tubi stainless chambered muffler. sound is distinctly european. probably around $3500.00 for the setup or just throw in a sbc or a nstar for same money lol



Funny.
yeah...anything can happen for money...
i am a little short this year, already. hahahaha!
its cool you mention Tubi. theres a Youtube vid of a real nice 308 (crimson colored) dyno'ing with the Tubi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45rb9iA_CQ
*EDIT*

thats the sound. right there. they are puttin the hammer to it. AWESOME!

when i had a steady job. the money was great, cept no car. i did alot of traveling then. Coast to Coast one year...sooo fun.
every year from 1997-2005....early 2006 is when i started to notice alot more "free time"
it was good then. more time to get aqaintied with my mew digs....but now esh....cant stay employed for 6 months straight.
its killing me...
ohh well at least once its nice out all the time i will have something to do. work on the car.
i need to get my temp gauge fixed. this summer i am going to drive the crap out of it.
later
Dan

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Rick 88 MSG #872, 03-29-2010 08:17 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:
go for it.
only one question tho...will that hurt the collector value?? they are rare. the Pentaspoke Cromodoras. right??
at least try a mock up or PhotoShop if you are curious.

go check out the thread ".....PhotoShop open lets see....." something, something....Nochie will hook it up for you.
he realizised Mera X for me. all slammed with a custom paint. even a wing...hes good.
check it out.
Dan




It would be nice to see a picture of the Chromodora's on a Mera "shopped" in gold. Maybe using "Fiero in Pairdise's" car since it looks like mine. Anyone who can do this?

I am going for the duller magnesium gold color of the "Scuderia" Ferrari wheels. I could always have them powdercoated silver again later. I just think it will look good with the beechwood leather interior of my car. Possibly adding Fiero "Shields" on the front fenders from "Fierosails" along with yellow center caps with the Fiero Pegasus on the wheels. Sort of a "Fierorrari" look.


IMSA GT (drumwzrd@comcast.net) MSG #873, 03-29-2010 11:22 PM
      Hopefully some of you Mera folks can look at this and see if it is a true Mera. The badging is all present but his interior looks just like a stock Fiero. No leather seats or accents on the doors or center consoles. Make sure to see the larger pictures lower in the page.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...?hash=item2eac0b46e2

Edit to add.....I've never seen a Mera plate on the intake before.

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batousai666 MSG #874, 03-30-2010 08:03 AM
      yulp. Rodney confirmed 1987 Mera #7020.
its back? huh?
wish i had a JOB
D


Indiana_resto_guy (crashdummy1997@gmail.com) MSG #875, 03-30-2010 08:09 AM
      Looks like it's back.
Now what??


batousai666 MSG #876, 03-30-2010 08:12 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Hopefully some of you Mera folks can look at this and see if it is a true Mera. The badging is all present but his interior looks just like a stock Fiero. No leather seats or accents on the doors or center consoles. Make sure to see the larger pictures lower in the page.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...?hash=item2eac0b46e2

Edit to add.....I've never seen a Mera plate on the intake before.




the interior looks Mera. door extention, mirror's with proper controller.
even has the Cromodoras, right guys?? which are rare on an '87.
*******EDIT* nope they are close....i like these rims. wait, are they real F-Car????***********
the seats are probabally a swap out, i am thinking.
but according to the Mera sales brouchure....i think the leather is a Fiero option, not Mera per sae.
so alls good with this one. I WANT IT SO BAD!
then theres that one in CA. the burgandy one.

he sent me this:


took a minute cuz it was way large, 3000X3000 and the such. it took me awhile to figure why it would not load.
freakin huge pic. this is a 75% reduction and its still big.wow.
he sent more but they are very vauge. far away shots and all dark. seems elusive so i let it go.



it's an '88 anyway. no harm no foul.
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #877, 03-30-2010 08:13 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by Indiana_resto_guy:

Looks like it's back.
Now what??



i guess a guy in Canada won but did not check out the import fees and laws.
he defaulted.
Dan


batousai666 MSG #878, 03-30-2010 08:33 AM
      HOT DAM!

WOW! now this is a fine ride
D
P.S.

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reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #879, 03-30-2010 03:18 PM
      Mera or kit?

http://tinyurl.com/ycletus


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #880, 03-30-2010 05:07 PM
      Interesting photo--Corporate Concepts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBay...me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #881, 03-30-2010 07:41 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

WOW! now this is a fine ride



What is it?



Rick 88 MSG #882, 03-30-2010 07:51 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Mera or kit?

http://tinyurl.com/ycletus


That is a real 87 Mera. It is pretty rough. I checked it out before I purchased mine.


Rick 88 MSG #883, 03-30-2010 07:53 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Interesting photo--Corporate Concepts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBay...me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


That is a cool picture of some 87's. I guess it was at the location where they were detailed after final assembly. I wonder if there are more pictures available.


Rick 88 MSG #884, 03-30-2010 07:56 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


What is it?


That car is a Lancia Stratos. They make a Fiero look big. Stratos were made in the 70's as I recall. The engine was a Ferrari V6 and they were great rally cars. Lot of videos of them on U Tube. I still have a model of the Alitalia rally car.


Rick 88 MSG #885, 03-30-2010 08:05 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Hopefully some of you Mera folks can look at this and see if it is a true Mera. The badging is all present but his interior looks just like a stock Fiero. No leather seats or accents on the doors or center consoles. Make sure to see the larger pictures lower in the page.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...?hash=item2eac0b46e2

Edit to add.....I've never seen a Mera plate on the intake before.



It looks to be a base 87 Mera. Wheels are nice but aftermarket, as well as all the Mera emblems including the one on the intake. The front bumper is also incorrect for a Mera. It is missing most of the Mera badging on the exterior. Also I am not aware of any Mera's made with the "Boxer" (two tone) paint from the plant. Looks to be a nice car if you are looking for an 87.



Indiana_resto_guy (crashdummy1997@gmail.com) MSG #886, 03-30-2010 08:43 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Mera or kit?

http://tinyurl.com/ycletus


Looks like the real deal.

 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Interesting photo--Corporate Concepts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBay...me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


Looks like corporate concepts, I think I'll get one.

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batousai666 MSG #887, 03-31-2010 09:42 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:

Mera or kit?

http://tinyurl.com/ycletus



Mera #7029.

still for sale?
too high $$. seems these rare cars are not as so desired, yet! i hope

them Stratos are Bad a$$. i bet they are expensive?
soo cool lookin.
its funny that i saw these cars while searching images of Ferrari's. to me this is queer because
i guess there is an episode of "Top Gear" comming up soon, where they test
with a Kit version of this car called the "Hawk" HF 3000.
what a weird coiencidence.
i love that show, Top Gear.."bloody brilliant..."

as far as that CC picture..I NEED MORE.
i sent the guy a mail for more color pics, we will see...such a nice photo....all 1987 MERAS
i see two red ones and a white....maybe #7020........PAIN.
gotta go...
Dan

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batousai666 MSG #888, 03-31-2010 09:49 AM
      upon inspect of photo...the Red Mera that they are working on seems to NOT have a sun roof...crap.
not mine. the other red one on the other hand
D


batousai666 MSG #889, 03-31-2010 10:31 AM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by reholmes:


What is it?



it is finally something you do not know.

Richard, i have given you a positive rating.
because, even tho i am up to my ears in Mera Data,
you seem to always be there with a post first. ATTABOY!
you have uncovered so much Mera stuff that a libarary should be named in your honor.
and that CC picture..ohhh my!
THANK YOU, so ever much for the MERA enlightenment you have bestowed upon me.

no kidding Thanks.
your Mera Brother in Arms,
Daniel


reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #890, 03-31-2010 02:01 PM
     
 
quote
Originally posted by batousai666:

Richard, i have given you a positive rating.

Daniel


Great, very cool. Thanks Dan, appreciate it!



reholmes (reh@reholmes.com) MSG #891, 03-31-2010 02:04 PM
     
 
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