Shootings... (Page 2/9)
blackrams AUG 04, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

What the ****?

I'm in full support of gun ownership, and I fully understand the purpose of gun ownership isn't hunting or self defense... but to keep the Government honest. But how do we stop crazy-people from shooting up public places?

Not that this is Fiero Forum's problem to solve... but just interested in what you guys think?

I don't own any guns, I just don't want the burden of owning one...



Anyone unwilling or unprepared to defend themselves, their loved ones and even the Liberals in the area are simply Victims waiting to be slaughtered.
Don't be a Victim. Eventually, you will have an opportunity to defend yourself or, someone else.

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Rams

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!

RWDPLZ AUG 04, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I can understand that no one in the Dayton bar was armed, but find it hard to believe there were not a bunch of people in a full Walmart...in Texas...that were not armed.



El Paso is ~90% Mexican (probably why someone from Dallas chose it as a target), and any Mexican carrying a gun is assumed to be part of the cartels or people smuggling just south of the border in Juarez, and the local VERY white cops all have that typical Texas cop attitude. You wouldn't want to be caught with one, regardless of your legal ability to carry. The only people you see open carrying are wanna-be cowboys, usually not from Texas, with cowboy hats and driving Toyota pickup trucks. I've never seen the local soldiers carrying, although that may change now.

There's another Walmart closer to Fort Bliss the soldiers tend to all shop at. This Walmart is in a slightly upscale shopping center a bit further away, south of the airport.
Lambo nut AUG 04, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Anyone unwilling or unprepared to defend themselves, their loved ones and even the Liberals in the area are simply Victims waiting to be slaughtered.
Don't be a Victim. Eventually, you will have an opportunity to defend yourself or, someone else.





100% this^^^!!!
williegoat AUG 04, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:


El Paso is ~90% Mexican (probably why someone from Dallas chose it as a target), and any Mexican carrying a gun is assumed to be part of the cartels or people smuggling just south of the border in Juarez, and the local VERY white cops all have that typical Texas cop attitude. You wouldn't want to be caught with one, regardless of your legal ability to carry. The only people you see open carrying are wanna-be cowboys, usually not from Texas, with cowboy hats and driving Toyota pickup trucks. I've never seen the local soldiers carrying, although that may change now.

There's another Walmart closer to Fort Bliss the soldiers tend to all shop at. This Walmart is in a slightly upscale shopping center a bit further away, south of the airport.


Now, that makes sense. Thanks for the perspective.
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 04, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:


El Paso is ~90% Mexican (probably why someone from Dallas chose it as a target), and any Mexican carrying a gun is assumed to be part of the cartels or people smuggling just south of the border in Juarez, and the local VERY white cops all have that typical Texas cop attitude. You wouldn't want to be caught with one, regardless of your legal ability to carry. The only people you see open carrying are wanna-be cowboys, usually not from Texas, with cowboy hats and driving Toyota pickup trucks. I've never seen the local soldiers carrying, although that may change now.

There's another Walmart closer to Fort Bliss the soldiers tend to all shop at. This Walmart is in a slightly upscale shopping center a bit further away, south of the airport.




Military are *totally* not allowed to carry. The only people on a military base who can carry are the MPs. Even most military installations have rules that say you can't bring your own weapons (in your car) on base... despite the fact that there was recently a ruling that said otherwise. It's typically up to the base commander.

You'd think having military around would make you safer, but it doesn't at all. The only time military would engage is if there's literally a shooting ON the military base, in which case they'd have a rapid-response from the MPs.

But military people on their own, when not in uniform, can carry off-base.
williegoat AUG 04, 08:10 PM
It appears that the Dayton killer was also an avowed leftist and satanist, supported AOC and opposed law enforcement and Trump. His sister was one of his victims.

https://heavy.com/news/2019...litics-social-media/

These people are told that someone else is responsible for their failures and are being whipped into a murderous frenzy by irresponsible partisan rhetoric. The news media and the politicians need to understand that there are mentally ill people among us and should exercise discretion when speaking.

Self control will be much more effective than gun control.
Tony Kania AUG 04, 08:41 PM
Again and again this happens, blame is laid upon those not guilty, then the gun is bad mantra, then the guy comes out as a liberal and the story goes away until the next one. Everything has been about Christ Church or some other issue before the truth comes out.

Dayton shooter killed his sister.

Many dead white folks at WalMart.

Neil deGrassi Tyson is being torn apart on Twitter ( ) for stating FACTS.

The media immediately tells us different. It explains that white supremacy or some other BS is the issue. My guns will never hurt anyone unless they ask for it. Those around me feels the same. A war is at hand, and the summer's heat will bring change. I stand firm and I am not on the hunt. Only prepared for self defense.


I earlier read a great quote. "Humans are not as civil as advertised."

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randye AUG 04, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Anyone unwilling or unprepared to defend themselves, their loved ones and even the Liberals in the area are simply Victims waiting to be slaughtered.
Don't be a Victim. Eventually, you will have an opportunity to defend yourself or, someone else.





...or the freedom of your country.
2.5 AUG 04, 09:38 PM
The value of human life. The abortion laws in New York for example. We've been teaching kids human life has no value. Among a multitude of other downward spirals, like the dissolving of the family.
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 04, 10:00 PM
My wife, who's a Democrat, but refuses to vote for Socialists (and so voted for Trump), is telling me that a psychiatric evaluation should be required before you can get a gun.

So I told her, according to who, and by who's measurement would a psychiatric evaluation be conclusive? Does the APA have a specific test they feel is valid for determining this? What happens when you have ultra-liberals who seek out to manage and change the variables and conditions for passing such a psychiatric evaluation? So I told her, this could immediately be used / leveraged by left-leaning politicians to restrict gun ownership to everyone, so a no go in my book.


I am quite sure something is going to have to happen. Trump isn't being quiet right now because he doesn't know what to do. I'm quite sure he's looking into options. It's frustrating.

The last thing I want is for the United States to end up like Honduras, where every store in Tegucigalpa has someone with a shotgun standing outside because the place is so ****ed up.