F1 News - HUH (Page 1/5)
olejoedad JAN 17, 11:18 AM
Its marked cars, but it might have politics involved.

It is F1, after all....


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[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 01-17-2020).]

MadMark JAN 17, 11:41 AM
Definitely politics involved if you are talking carbon neutral in a racing series.

As long as they come up with something more powerful that sounds decent I don't care. The only thing I worry about is that they seem bent on cooperative development between teams. If that means that they will have a spec series of racing instead of every building coming up with their own version of drive train, chassis and other components. If it turns into that then why bother to watch?
williegoat JAN 17, 01:42 PM
My first thought was, "I'm an American! What do I care about F1?"

But in the interest of international good will, I went ahead and read the article anyway.

Now my second thought is, "Fuel efficient, decent sounding two-smokes? Have they legalized marijuana all over Europe now?"

I guess I have some reading to do....
olejoedad JAN 17, 01:55 PM
I would much rather watch F1 than NASCAR.
If its on an oval, its boring.
My favorite is still the Daytona/LeMans prototypes.
Jonesy JAN 17, 03:22 PM
Yeah me and my dad watch F1 every sunday during the season, kinda our thing..
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 17, 09:43 PM
Like Jonesy, I used to watch F1 with my dad every single Sunday, when I lived in the same state with my parents.

I'm a huge fan of F1, but I've been disillusioned by the sport lately. It's been... sigh, a long time, almost a decade since I last watched F1 with any regularity. I watched it religiously from 1996 through about 2011... and just lost interested. I didn't like the fact that they got rid of the V10s, and then when they got rid of the V8s and went to a turbo V6, it just didn't have the same excitement as it did before.

I'm not averse to F1 going in this direction (mentioned in the article), as I know F1 has always been about innovation and technology... but they really need to reign in their homologation efforts. The more and more they start to make it look like IndyCar, the less interested I'll be.
williegoat JAN 17, 09:57 PM
I was able to dig up a little about some new 2-stroke technology. My only knowledge was from motorcycles and Detroit diesels.

It looks like:
-direct injection
-reed valve intake
-variable exhaust ports
-primary compression is handled by what I would describe as a stacked piston

I found several different transfer port schemes including a rotary valve that takes primary compression from one jug to another.

I did not yet see any practical applications of some of the newer tech. It will be interesting to follow the development.
E.Furgal JAN 17, 10:18 PM
F1 is in the same boat as Indy car and Nascar.
Companies don't want to pay big money for tv ad space.
And the cost of racing is through the roof. F1 has always been costly, but it is even more so now.
Tracks don't get people in the seats, as they get a better seat at home watching it on their 50" or larger tv. And those buying ad space only see the empty seats, as a way to get the ad spot cheaper, knowing full well , the fan is at home watching it.
Motorsports all MOTORSPORTS NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PEOPE BACK INTO THE STANDS.
At the tracks. no people in stands= no money for track, track goes bye bye, no more racing.
And sorry, follow the leader racing isn't going to do it. The F! cars are too long for many of the street circuits and tracks, to pass on, other than a few "select" spots on the track/circuit .
I know they got longer for safety of the driver. So maybe it is time to change to prototype cars with closed wheels, so they can pass without tires touching and sending one or both cars fly'n.
theogre JAN 18, 03:07 AM
Yup, Won't help to sell seats and most big business won't buy TV time or sponsor teams or tracks because is not PC on many levels even if can reach 0 Carbon hype.

F1 and others has problems dealing w/ "Green" Governments including the center EU bunch in Brussels is likely part of "Green" race cars.
Race Orgs has very minimum Global Warming etc effects overall but Greenies want to regulate them to death and close race tracks across Europe.
Like Crystal palace track in London UK was killed by noise complaints as much as anything else even before Global Warming push by Greenies.
Recent vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRRmMftaIM

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82-T/A [At Work] JAN 19, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

F1 is in the same boat as Indy car and Nascar.
Companies don't want to pay big money for tv ad space.
And the cost of racing is through the roof. F1 has always been costly, but it is even more so now.
Tracks don't get people in the seats, as they get a better seat at home watching it on their 50" or larger tv. And those buying ad space only see the empty seats, as a way to get the ad spot cheaper, knowing full well , the fan is at home watching it.
Motorsports all MOTORSPORTS NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PEOPE BACK INTO THE STANDS.
At the tracks. no people in stands= no money for track, track goes bye bye, no more racing.
And sorry, follow the leader racing isn't going to do it. The F! cars are too long for many of the street circuits and tracks, to pass on, other than a few "select" spots on the track/circuit .
I know they got longer for safety of the driver. So maybe it is time to change to prototype cars with closed wheels, so they can pass without tires touching and sending one or both cars fly'n.




I don't know... every race I've seen, the stands have been totally and completely packed... particularly the ones in Europe, South America, and the Middle-East. Maybe not so much in Austin, or in Canada (do they still do that one?)...