Military Justice? (Page 1/5)
blackrams NOV 16, 09:28 AM

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Trump intervenes in military justice cases, grants pardons



Interested in opinions of those who have served.

Rams
maryjane NOV 16, 10:46 AM
It is his (CiC's) right and within his authority.

I'm not much on killing innocent civilians regardless of "perceived'' threats.
It all boils down to:
"Did they feah fer theah lives?"

If "yes" then it's ok..go forth and murder no more.

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Boondawg NOV 16, 12:20 PM
I think the military does a pretty fair job of policing their own.
It’s not perfect, but it’s their boots in the trenches.
They know the realities of “The Fog of War”.

No pretend do-gooders or draft-dodgers should have any say what-so-ever.

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olejoedad NOV 16, 02:11 PM
I didn't serve, I will refrain from comment.
randye NOV 16, 05:22 PM
The CiC has been fully briefed on the individual cases by the DoD and therefore has more information that we do.

I trust that his decisions are appropriate.

Additionally, since some Leftist named "Hina Shamsi" from the ACLU is loudly complaining about the two pardons and the promotion in withheld rank for Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Edward R. Gallagher, that serves to strengthen my belief that the decisions are all the more appropriate.

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Boondawg NOV 16, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by randye:

I trust that his decisions are appropriate.




Do you really believe The President is doing this because he actually believes an “injustice” was done?
Do you believe he cares about these guys at all?
Was there such a public outcry that he could no longer ignore it?

Do we no longer trust our own military to uphold their own standards?

Anyone with half-a-brain (no offense) knows exactlly why he’s doing this.
It’s the same reason he does everything.
To benefit HIM.

Remember the respect he showed for Mccain’s service to this country?
Yeah, he’s the LAST person to be judging anyone’s Honor.

Have some really become this blind?
Or is it simply willful ignorance?

For those that seem to love Donald Trump blindly, I wonder if there is anything he could do or say that would force those same people to be at least vaguely critical of those words or actions.

With the venom some use around here over the silliest of sh!t, I would think there would be plenty left over for the really BIG sh!t in the World.

P.S. If I remember right, most here thought that “Burgdawl” (sic) fellow some time back should have been hung for desertion.
He didn’t kill anyone, he simply ran away.

How come no one here is calling for the noose in this instance?

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cliffw NOV 16, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:
I'm not much on killing innocent civilians regardless of "perceived'' threats.
It all boils down to:
"Did they feah fer theah lives?"



I also did not serve. I am not at all for killing innocent civilians. The Mi Lai massacre still turns my stomach.
Did we fear for our lives when we joined England in WW II ?
That bomb maker was not on his way to church.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Do you really believe The President is doing this because he actually believes an “injustice” was done?
Do you believe he cares about these guys at all?
Was there such a public outcry that he could no longer ignore it?



Yes, yes, no.



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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Do we no longer trust our own military to uphold their own standards?



Do you ? If you did there would be no political wars / targets. Our military would kick azz in short order.



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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Anyone with half-a-brain (no offense) knows exactlly why he’s doing this.
It’s the same reason he does everything.
To benefit HIM.



How so ?



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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Have some really become this blind?
Or is it simply willful ignorance?



What is your reason ?



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Originally posted by Boondawg:
P.S. If I remember right, most here thought that “Burgdawl” (sic) fellow some time back should have been hung for desertion.
He didn’t kill anyone, he simply ran away.



How many people got killed looking for that ruckhead that did not run away ? He ran to the Taliban ! The guy ought to be hung for being so stupid.

How come no one here is calling for the noose in this instance?

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williegoat NOV 16, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:
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Anyone with half-a-brain (no offense) knows exactlly why he’s doing this.

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Have some really become this blind?
Or is it simply willful ignorance?

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With the venom some use around here over the silliest of sh!t, I would think there would be plenty left over for the really BIG sh!t in the World.

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You are calling for civility while suggesting that those with whom you disagree are blind, ignorant and half witted.

You have lost all credibility.
Tony Kania NOV 16, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:

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P.S. If I remember right, most here thought that “Burgdawl” (sic) fellow some time back should have been hung for desertion.
He didn’t kill anyone, he simply ran away.

How come no one here is calling for the noose in this instance?





He simply got soldiers killed. Americans did not make it home to their loved ones. Does this not concern you?

I trust in my President. His actions have provided my family with the means to continue to grow. I am very proud to be an American right now.

Eh, you will just tell me how shatty my life is, nobody cares for me, blah, blah, blah. 8th grade basically. Carry on if it fills your soul.

MidEngineManiac NOV 16, 07:41 PM
Food for thought. Maybe if there wasn't so much concern for collateral damage and casualties then maybe these wars wouldn't drag on as long as they do.


Go in. Kick the living shut out of them. Go home. It worked for Sherman and it worked again in WW2.

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