quote Originally posted by olejoedad: The Washington Post, New York Times, The Atlantic and MSNBC are always the sources I trust.....there is never any bias or agenda. Just top shelf, sterling journalism.....

NBC News should be in that list, and CNN, to a lesser degree. I do like me some Wolf Blitzer, from time to time.

I am thinking all the way back to the day after the 2016 election, when the Era of Trump truly began.

The larger and longer term effects and outcomes that are traceable to decisions by Trump and his officers and staffers, particularly, Trade Issues, the Economy, the Southern Border, the Affordable Care Act or "Obamacare"... I guess those are the things that come first to my mind, of that kind. And Climate Change. (Who could forget Climate Change?)

I dunno'. I'm with "Nancy" on all that, in the sense (her sense) that these are all issues for the 2020 election, and that's where they need to be addressed, and are best going to be addressed. Not one of these are Impeachment issues--there's no daylight between myself and the Speaker, on any of that.

Putting those other kinds of issues aside, and focusing only on what the Speaker and I both agree are "Impeachment" issues, I am very satisfied with the "coverage" that I have received from all of the media venues that are being singled out here, starting with the Washington Post.

Who was "out in front" here, on this very forum, about the likely and incipient downfall of Trump's first National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn?

Me.

Who was talking here, early on, in the very same way, about Grand Juries? Paul Manafort? The Russian Interference Campaign, which has been documented as 11 (I think) individual indictments of Russian GRU officers. (Mostly, a formality, but Mueller's main objective on that was to document.) The other indictments of Russia-linked organizations related to the Interference Campaign, such as Concord Management (which I think must still be on an ongoing case in the Federal Court system.) "Putin's Chef."

Me.

Ditto, for ... Roger Stone? Investigations of the Trump inaugural committee and their finances? (Ongoing, I believe.) Michael Cohen? Stormy Daniels? The unprecedented turnover of staff and Cabinet officers--the "revolving door of bodies" that differentiates the Trump administration from any of its predecessors? Seb Gorka? Omarosa Manigault? The earliest signs of instability, bubbling up from the SCIF-obscured depths of the National Security Council, even after H.R. McMaster came in to replace Michael Flynn?

Who again was talking about it here, before it became yesterday's news?

There are actual Trolls on this forum who have covered themselves in the misleading facade that goes "Yeah, yeah, the Mueller investigation. BFD. Nothing's going to come of it. Nothing has come of it. The President's not going to be impeached. Mueller's going to wrap it up and serve a Nothing Buger, and the President isn't going to be impeached. Jared Kushner won't be indicted. (True.) Ivanka Trump isn't going to be put in handcuffs and perp-walked. (True.) Like it (Mueller) Never Even Happened..?

I don't think so.

It's all part of one larger story. It may well be that "Ukraine-gate" is something that isn't directly connected with the various Mueller-related issues, and something that was going to happen anyway (although I think otherwise), but would it look the same, and be causing the same reactions, if it had not been preceded by the Mueller investigation? Not just by the Mueller investigation itself, but by the Looney Tunes way that Trump tried to deal with it?

I'm very satisfied with my "sources" at this point. My preferred media News and Opinion venues. They have been keeping me thoroughly entertained, and have not left me with any kind of feeling that I have been misled, or particularly misinformed. It's mostly the "dirty tricks" and "conspiracy" stuff that engages my attention. I don't have enough "skin in the game" to be all that concerned about any of what would seem to be the larger or more long-term issues, like the Economy (etc.) You have to be smarter to figure that stuff out.

"I'm a man of means, by no means ..." But for the first time in many years, I actually did dole out some (laughably) small campaign-related donations. I love me my "Trump coverage', but a second term? I don't want that kind of temptation, to be spending as much time as I have, engrossed in the ongoing chaos and spectacle of it. I get behind in processing my Snail Mail.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-07-2019).]