Video - C5 Vette's are a bargain now - Buyers Guide (Page 1/2)
DimeMachine OCT 05, 07:18 PM
Love my 3800SC Fiero but also like value in a sports car.

C5 Corvettes can now be had in great shape for less than 10k. Here are the things to look for and to look out for - based on my 9 years of experience with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbBdsiM_U18

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82-T/A [At Work] OCT 06, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by DimeMachine:

Love my 3800SC Fiero but also like value in a sports car.

C5 Corvettes can now be had in great shape for less than 10k. Here are the things to look for and to look out for - based on my 9 years of experience with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbBdsiM_U18





Yeah, they ARE really cheap now. My thoughts on this are usually not well received, but I've never really liked the C5. It's a great performance car, but I just find it to be kind of weird looking, and is honestly the generation I like the least.

I know I shouldn't say anything if I don't have something positive to say, hahah... but I was glad they changed the styling in the C6. C5 is just too bubbly and weird looking.

C8, obviously... big fan. I like the C3, C2, C4, C1, C8, C7, C6, and then C5 in that order (without consideration to monetary value).
E.Furgal OCT 06, 05:25 AM
I'd rather a later c4, That was cared for.
A few reasons for this, at least in my opinion.

1) pre obII meaning no emission testing nightmares.
2) Systems are still separate, many models still with anolog systems. All that electric controlled shocks /etc get costly when they age.
3) cheap, you can buy a clean 88-90 c4 for less than most other cars and it handle better than 99% of them.
4) The lack of power is an ls swap issue away. and the car and swap will be the same or less that a s/c3800 fiero.
And run rings around it.
5) 1st generation of vettes that most likely will never be B/J collector material but still have the aftermarket support as if it did.
6) a lot less nanny b/s
Now if I was to buy and just drive Then ya a c5 or 6.

E.Furgal OCT 06, 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Yeah, they ARE really cheap now. My thoughts on this are usually not well received, but I've never really liked the C5. It's a great performance car, but I just find it to be kind of weird looking, and is honestly the generation I like the least.

I know I shouldn't say anything if I don't have something positive to say, hahah... but I was glad they changed the styling in the C6. C5 is just too bubbly and weird looking.

C8, obviously... big fan. I like the C3, C2, C4, C1, C8, C7, C6, and then C5 in that order (without consideration to monetary value).



What was it with vehicle designers back then, everything looked like a bath tub, or shamu.
the 90's gm b bodys, the sn90 mustangs. 2nd gen mr2, the eclipse.
Think they saw the softer side of sears ads and then looked at the data that more females buy new vehicles than men, and made them all into bubbly curves
82-T/A [At Work] OCT 06, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:


What was it with vehicle designers back then, everything looked like a bath tub, or shamu.
the 90's gm b bodys, the sn90 mustangs. 2nd gen mr2, the eclipse.
Think they saw the softer side of sears ads and then looked at the data that more females buy new vehicles than men, and made them all into bubbly curves



Yeah... it was a weird time. Not all cars of that era were bad, but they weren't great. Pontiac was one of the few car companies that managed to keep some styling, even with their bubble cars. It was right around the design of the C5 that cars were at their peak of bubbliness...

olejoedad OCT 06, 09:43 AM
C4 is fine if you want to ride in a log wagon and watch the rear hatch squirm around on a rough road.
Worst Corvette ever in the modern era.
82-T/A [At Work] OCT 06, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

C4 is fine if you want to ride in a log wagon and watch the rear hatch squirm around on a rough road.
Worst Corvette ever in the modern era.




Hahah... it's not so bad. It's no different than a Porsche 944 in that respect. But I think a lot of that has to do with age. I've been in plenty of low-mileage C4s (back when they were much newer) and I didn't have that experience.

I have been in a couple since... that were beat up and came from an auction, and everything squeaked, they smelled like exhaust inside, and the hatch flopped around.


I have to say though, I *really* like that generation. I was born in 78, so it's not like I was of driving age when any of them were new at the dealer. Well... I was 16 in 1994, so I suppose they WERE at the dealer, but I definitely couldn't afford one then (ended up with a Fiero! woo hoo!)

But for me, that car was much like a lot of things in life... (going to get psychological now, so hang on)

Back in the 70s through the early 90s... it felt like things advanced and improved much more quickly. I feel like we're starting to see that again.

In many respects, I often feel like most of the 2000s and 2010s were a lost technology generation. Pretty much all of the Bush Jr and Obama era... it feels like nothing really changed much.

The C3 Corvette was a substantial change (1969?) from the C2, and the C4 was leaps and bounds more advanced than the C3 in every measure of the word. I know the 82 and 84 both had Cross Fire Injection, but the C4 was just a total and complete departure from the old style of vehicle. It handled better, everything was digital, etc.

When I look at computers too (since we're in O/T here), every successive generation of computer that came out... 8088, 80286, 80386, 80486... SX, DX, Pentium... these things were worlds better than the previous. Now... there's almost no difference between a Pentium 4 from 2000 to whatever stupidly-named processor that Intel has right now with 10 cores. Even Microsoft Windows, it used the exact same kernel from Windows Vista all the way through Windows 8.1. And, for that matter, Windows 10 is only a slight departure in kernel technology. Certainly not like the huge change we saw from XP to Vista.

The C4 Vette for me was a during a time when we made big leaps and bounds in technology. We've made a lot of technology changes, but it certainly wasn't like how it was growing up in the 80s with everything being so absurdly advanced and new. I mean... I remember going from having an Atari 2600, to getting my first computer, to then being able to call Bulletin Board Systems (connecting via a modem to another computer across the country) to then being on the internet, all in the span of basically 10-15 years. I look at the times from 1996-2016... what's REALLY changed? We're STILL using OBD2 in cars, the internet is still basically as it was, except we've got TLS and faster bandwidth.

I feel like our country was lost...

I do honestly feel though that we're making huge changes today... and I'm excited for the future if the Democrats don't manage to **** it up. We're making leaps and bounds in technology, the private sector, the Federal government, we're starting to get back to what made us innovative.

Back to the Corvette... the C5 and C6 should have been the same model.

You look at the huge changes, each successive generation was landmark...

C1 to C2 to C3 to C4 to ... wait, what? C5 would have been fine... but C5 to C6 was like the same car, even if redesigned. C8 is definitely a departure from C7.


Sorry... on a loooong business trip, and losing my mind.
E.Furgal OCT 07, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

C4 is fine if you want to ride in a log wagon and watch the rear hatch squirm around on a rough road.
Worst Corvette ever in the modern era.



All most all performance sport cars of that era did that. they all had stiff underpinning. the thin foamed seating didn't help matters but easy to fix.
The difference is today, and I've driven a few with this done. is you can buy adjustable shocks to have the grandtourer and then on the week end or track day stiffen it up to kill.
Best bang for the buck without all the nanny crap.
clean c4 3000-6000 bucks depending on miles and if the clear is failing.
A 6.2ltr all alum low mile ls rated at 427 h/p take out with harness/ecu around 4000 bucks. 6500 if you want the 6 speed stick behind it.
10k or so, you have one hell of a rocket ,that turn. Spend 1000 bucks on adjustable shocks and it not beat you up as bad as stock either.

Many other brands/models that the last of the analog driving experience , I.E. no computer getting between you and the cars actions. (nanny controls). have taken off lately on the block.
No idea if the last vettes without all the "drivers aids" will do the same but .
For the folks that want to be the one in control of the vehicle good or bad. these type vehicles are the last of the breed.
Todays cars you can turn knobs and switches to turn the drivers aids off, but very few honestly do that, most just back nanny off a few clicks. like when you're were on training wheels and your parent was still there but now a few feet behind you but still close enough to keep you out of trouble.
Not a fan of the driver aids.

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Raydar OCT 07, 03:33 PM
I like the new one, although I don't know much about it.
Other than that, the C6 is probably my favorite. In profile, it's quite beautiful (the fender tops remind me of a 63-67) and fixed the styling "bugs" that affected the C5 - especially the "big ass" look.
The C7 did nothing for me. People "oooohed and ahhhhed" and I was like.. "Why?"
Otherwise? I'll take a 96 LT4. Maybe a 73 or even an 80-82.
I like the 63-67s too, but most mere mortals can't even touch one of those.

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DimeMachine NOV 27, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

I like the new one, although I don't know much about it.
Other than that, the C6 is probably my favorite. In profile, it's quite beautiful (the fender tops remind me of a 63-67) and fixed the styling "bugs" that affected the C5 - especially the "big ass" look.
The C7 did nothing for me. People "oooohed and ahhhhed" and I was like.. "Why?"
Otherwise? I'll take a 96 LT4. Maybe a 73 or even an 80-82.
I like the 63-67s too, but most mere mortals can't even touch one of those.




I have a soft spot in my heart for the C6 as well - especially the C6 Z06!