And then one day *bam* you wake up dead ! (Page 1/2)
MidEngineManiac APR 18, 06:55 PM
He's dead Jim.

HEY !!!! I heard that !!!!
maryjane APR 18, 08:19 PM
The reason many places don't use 'brain dead' onset as the legal ToD is because there are too many living brain dead morons walking around the world today , looking for some govt program to support them because they can't (and wouldn't anyway) get and keep a real job to support themselves or their families.
williegoat APR 18, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

The reason many places don't use 'brain dead' onset as the legal ToD is because there are too many living brain dead morons walking around the world today , looking for some govt program to support them because they can't (and wouldn't anyway) get and keep a real job to support themselves or their families.


They could always run for congress.
Jake_Dragon APR 18, 09:25 PM
https://www.damninteresting.com/lucid-decapitation

Consider the case of Languille, a convicted murderer who was guillotined in France. He was observed by Dr. Beaurieux during his execution at 5:30am on June 28th, 1905. As written in Archives d’Anthropologie Criminelle, here are the doctor’s observations:

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Here, then, is what I was able to note immediately after the decapitation: the eyelids and lips of the guillotined man worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about five or six seconds … I waited for several seconds. The spasmodic movements ceased.The face relaxed, the lids half closed on the eyeballs, leaving only the white of the conjunctiva visible, exactly as in the dying whom we have occasion to see every day in the exercise of our profession, or as in those just dead.It was then that I called in a strong, sharp voice: ‘Languille!’ I saw the eyelids slowly lift up, without any spasmodic contractions … Next Languille’s eyes very definitely fixed themselves on mine and the pupils focused themselves … After several seconds, the eyelids closed again, slowly and evenly, and the head took on the same appearance as it had had before I called out.It was at that point that I called out again and, once more, without any spasm, slowly, the eyelids lifted and undeniably living eyes fixed themselves on mine with perhaps even more penetration than the first time. Then there was a further closing of the eyelids, but now less complete. I attempted the effect of a third call; there was no further movement and the eyes took on the glazed look which they have in the dead.
I have just recounted to you with rigorous exactness what I was able to observe. The whole thing had lasted twenty-five to thirty seconds.

Tony Kania APR 18, 09:51 PM
And that is why I always have to scold little Mohammed. I tell him, put dick in mouth before beheading. Never after. But he most certainly will never learn.
maryjane APR 18, 09:56 PM
Regarding Jake's post...

A bit of advice..seriously. If you ever are confronted with the necessity to 'unplug' a loved one from life support, insist the attending nurse turn the life signs (heartbeat/BP/respiration/brain activity) monitor off first.!
It doesn't always go like you see on TV or in the movies. BTDT.

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MidEngineManiac APR 18, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

The reason many places don't use 'brain dead' onset as the legal ToD is because there are too many living brain dead morons walking around the world today , looking for some govt program to support them because they can't (and wouldn't anyway) get and keep a real job to support themselves or their families.



Government programs aside since there are so many of them, some valid some not...

In today's world who the hell would WANT a "real" job if they can find some other way to earn a living ? Every move you make, every word you say you risk getting sued, fired or worse because somebody got ooofffeeennnddeeddddd. Your choice of vehicle or hat puts you at risk of being assaulted because somebody doesnt llliiikkkkeeeee it.


And, the ever-popular "play ball with the left" or you are fiiirrreeeedddd. Not to mention companies who think silly little things like "LAWS" don't apply to them because they are ssppeecciiaalll and uuiiqquuueeee and have "minority rights".

Remember about 18 months ago ? I took on a contract and within the 1st week the sheet hit the FAN because I made some smart-ass remark to a buddy and somebody 50 feet away...not part of the group or conversation..overheard and got bent out of shape. By the time the dust settled everybody from the shop floor supervisor to the CEO was quivering in fear over the legal repercussions if this snowflake went to the human rights commission. And nobody was even talking to her, just something she overheard from 40-50 feet away.

Know one of the biggest problems companies have these days with staff ? Ghosting. People just don't call, don't show up, and go find something else because they aint putting up with the sheet just to earn a bit of money. I've had 3 the past year where the department contact I was working with did it. They are smarter than get themselves in a sheet-heap of trouble fighting it, they just disappear. (I was never that bright)

The less exposure you have to people, the lower the liability risk from the stupid. A "real" job is high-exposure high-risk. NO thank YOU to that idea anymore. a few hours a week is bad enough, never mind 40 or more of them.

BUT, speaking of government hand-outs. "Regular jobs" are the biggest one there is, 23% of the workforce is on that hand-out. (Its in the exec summary) https://www.fraserinstitute...trends-in-canada.pdf

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MidEngineManiac APR 18, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Regarding Jake's post...

A bit of advice..seriously. If you ever are confronted with the necessity to 'unplug' a loved one from life support, insist the attending nurse turn the life signs (heartbeat/BP/respiration/brain activity) monitor off first.!
It doesn't always go like you see on TV or in the movies. BTDT.




Another one in that vein..It been 30 years but, if you ever walk in a house and find a loved one deceased on the floor, DONT call 911. The ambulance attendants are legally bound to try resuscitation (even though they are obviously deceased and have been for some time) until the police and coroner show up. Its NOT a fun thing to sit thru.
Jake_Dragon APR 19, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Regarding Jake's post...

A bit of advice..seriously. If you ever are confronted with the necessity to 'unplug' a loved one from life support, insist the attending nurse turn the life signs (heartbeat/BP/respiration/brain activity) monitor off first.!
It doesn't always go like you see on TV or in the movies. BTDT.




Have a great weekend, its never easy
maryjane APR 19, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

The ambulance attendants are legally bound to try resuscitation (even though they are obviously deceased and have been for some time) until the police and coroner show up. Its NOT a fun thing to sit thru.


No they aren't, providing there is a 'do not resuscitate/living will' document in place. There are 2 kinds and both are needed.
1. In facility. Tthis is for any time the person is in a doctor's office, hospital, emergency room etc.
2.Out of facility, or out of hospital . This is for all other locations and circumstances. At home, out in the public, in a vehicle etc.

You get a bracelet to wear that identifies you as having both a legally executed in facility and out of facility DNR document, and make sure all your family and close associates are aware of this

The only time EMTs won't honor an out of facility DNR is if the patient is pregnant, for obvious reasons..


I have both and tho it seems somewhat contradictory, I do always carry some of this ..

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