California wildfire claimed YouTuber's apartment, the internet responds (Page 1/2)
jmbishop DEC 06, 11:57 PM
I've posted his videos here before, I get a kick out of them. A go fund me was started with the goal of 10k, it's been a day or two and last I checked donations are over 140k.

https://www.gofundme.com/osmans-fire-relief

This is awesome to see, really glad he's going to have no problem putting a roof over his head and getting production back up but I do worry about copy cats.



Keel DEC 07, 07:11 AM
So he gets the house rebuilt with insurance money.
His things get replaced the same way.
They the insurance pay for your roof over your head while it is rebuilt.
but he needed a go fund me, for??
A new BMW?
Sure is blows that his house went up. but this go fund me for things like this is a shame.
The 140k should go to children hospital or something.

jmbishop DEC 07, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

So he gets the house rebuilt with insurance money.
His things get replaced the same way.
They the insurance pay for your roof over your head while it is rebuilt.
but he needed a go fund me, for??
A new BMW?
Sure is blows that his house went up. but this go fund me for things like this is a shame.
The 140k should go to children hospital or something.




Somebody is jealous

It's 150k+ now minus whatever fees and taxes come out.

He's not having his house rebuilt because he never had one.

He had renters insurance that was going to cover some expenses but not all. He lived in a studio apartment with all his belongings, one of the more notable was his cnc laser cutter he built and featured in many YouTube videos.

Clearly we should hold you to the standard your trying to set, does all your disposable income go to children's hospitals? I see nothing wrong with people paying a content creator so he can continue to make content.

He has enough to buy a house now if he leaves California, if he stays, he'll have trouble buying a lot to put a house on.

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maryjane DEC 07, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by jmbishop:
Somebody is jealous

It's 150k+ now minus whatever fees and taxes come out.

He's not having his house rebuilt because he never had one.

He had renters insurance that was going to cover some expenses but not all. He lived in a studio apartment with all his belongings, one of the more notable was his cnc laser cutter he built and featured in many YouTube videos.

Clearly we should hold you to the standard your trying to set, does all your disposable income go to children's hospitals? I see nothing wrong with people paying a content creator so he can continue to make content.

He has enough to buy a house now if he leaves California, if he stays, he'll have trouble buying a lot to put a house on.



I don't see keel's comments as being jealous.
Tho it doesn't apply in this particular case, (Osman didn't start the gofundme page and a fire can happen anywhere/anytime) GoFundme has become a new kind of 'The American Dream' with pages started for all kinds of crazy stuff, just to take advantage of the 'there's a sucker born every minute', a cyber form of streetcorner panhandling to make up for poor choices stupid people made in their lives.

Still, people are free to spend their $$ where ever they wish.


Stubby79 DEC 07, 11:27 AM
Hmm...nope. I don't approve. It's gone waaay past "reasonable". I'm sure there are plenty of other, at least equally deserving people out there. Dude should have shut it down soon after it hit the goal. Hope he donates what he doesn't need.
jmbishop DEC 07, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I don't see E.Furgal's comments as being jealous.






I see the suggestion that Osman doesn't need the money and that the only thing he could possibly spend it on is something frivolous as a indication of jealousy.

Would he have survived without the donations, probably. Does that mean he deserves no charity, absolutely not.

It's completely possible he gets another studio apartment then goes and buy himself a Gallardo. If you donated money and don't appreciate that, you're the one who chose poorly.

Of course the danger in this event is that people do crazy things for money. Now that people have seen the response, they may try to exploit the generosity they've observed.

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blackrams DEC 07, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I don't see keel's comments as being jealous.
Tho it doesn't apply in this particular case, (Osman didn't start the gofundme page and a fire can happen anywhere/anytime) GoFundme has become a new kind of 'The American Dream' with pages started for all kinds of crazy stuff, just to take advantage of the 'there's a sucker born every minute', a cyber form of streetcorner panhandling to make up for poor choices stupid people made in their lives.

Still, people are free to spend their $$ where ever they wish.




Which reminds me, I am still available for adoption ya know.

Rams

maryjane DEC 07, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by jmbishop:

Of course the danger in this event is that people do crazy things for money. Now that people have seen the response, they may try to exploit the generosity they've observed.




Surely you don't think of this as the first time an outpouring of Gofundme donations has exceeded the goal?
It's been going on for many months, and accross a wide spectrum of this type of charity--and others as well.

It used to be, that in the face of adversity, folks pulled themselves back up out of it, but more and more, we see cyber begging instead.

jmbishop DEC 07, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Stubby79:

Hmm...nope. I don't approve. It's gone waaay past "reasonable". I'm sure there are plenty of other, at least equally deserving people out there. Dude should have shut it down soon after it hit the goal. Hope he donates what he doesn't need.



I agree it's excessive but don't agree he should donate it. I saw the video hours after the gofundme went live and they had already raised 20k, I felt no reason to donate at that point, if I had, I still would have intended for the money to be spent by him.

Technically donating the money somewhere else would be misappropriation of the donations. The intent of the donated money was too "help then get back in their feet" not to be donated somewhere else. But since they aren't a non profit I don't think there's anything that legally dictates how they have to spend it.

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jmbishop DEC 07, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Surely you don't think of this as the first time an outpouring of Gofundme donations has exceeded the goal?
It's been going on for many months, and accross a wide spectrum of this type of charity--and others as well.

It used to be, that in the face of adversity, folks pulled themselves back up out of it, but more and more, we see cyber begging instead.



I just think it's a new templates for another scam. I posted it because I was amazed at how far over the goal it went and how fast.

In the face of adversity communities used to be much more active in pooling together to help people. Beggers/scamners took advantage of that as well, inspired by previous acts of generosity.