88GT not starting - no oil pressure? (Page 1/2)
crazyd JAN 12, 07:50 PM
Been running fine this weekend until just now. Parked for an hour, then a difficult crank followed by slower-than usual cranking and no start. I have fuel pump prime and fuel pressure at the Schrader valve. I am NOT seeing oil pressure at the gage during cranking. I can't remember whether or not I should be. I torqued the oil pickup myself when I rebuilt the engine in '17, doubt it would have just fallen off. Wondering now if the timing chain snapped.
Gall757 JAN 12, 08:39 PM
It's easy and fun to jump to a conclusion, but review the basics to rule them out. Have you used up the battery? Is the tach moving up to 300 when you crank the starter? Is some wiring loose or corroded? Is the oil level OK?

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crazyd JAN 12, 09:31 PM
I've left the car for the night. I didn't think to check the tach while cranking, yeah that would have told me if the ignition module is dead, but it's still cranking and it's a year-old Optima Red Top. It had just started fine 30 minutes before so I don't think wiring problems. I just put in a new distributor that came with a new module a year ago, so I doubt the icm is bad either. I reconnected all the plugs on top to make sure they were secure - coil, plug wires, tps, maf, dist, etc. Just had a new catback installed at Midas yesterday, so they were welding on it, and I changed the oil less than 300 miles ago.
Patrick JAN 12, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by crazyd:

Just had a new catback installed at Midas yesterday, so they were welding on it...



And now it won't start. Just coincidence... or not?
Notorio JAN 12, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
And now it won't start. Just coincidence... or not?



That does seem suspicious. For the sake of argument, what do you think he should look for that might be welding-related?
Gall757 JAN 12, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Notorio:


That does seem suspicious. For the sake of argument, what do you think he should look for that might be welding-related?



Wiring at the starter. Look for melted insulation or blobs of melted welding rod on the starter.

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shemdogg JAN 13, 12:20 AM
If your timing chain snapped, Im sure you would hear some nastiness while cranking it. Take a jump box n some starter fluid. If it starts on the fluid you got no gas getting to the motor. If it doesnt- U have a spark issue. Wiggle your fuses n shake some wire harnessesesses, worked for ol shemmy many a time.

shem
theogre JAN 13, 10:27 AM
Year old battery means nothing and Do not trust gauges in the dash.

First Check Volts @ the battery. Then check volts at the starter w/ ground probe to starter case or engine block.
Because Slow to crank is is very likely a "dead" battery, alternator problems and/or wiring to them.

battery charged should be ~ 12.6 to 13.6 volt
battery bad or not charged < 12.5 v

Volts @ the starter should = or be Very Close to same volts @ the battery. If not then cables are bad or loose.

Check volts @ the starter trying to start is better but Do Not get under the car when you try to start.
You might be able to check w/o getting under at all. Carefully use a meter thru driver side and trans on top or mayby use a stick to extent probe handle but GT body makes this harder and likely have to lay over the trunk. Probes w/ "alligator chips" may help because you don't have to hold them trying to start.

Can be the starter w/ problems but If you to run starter w/ iffy battery and/or cables then you can kill the starter.

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crazyd JAN 13, 01:28 PM
The battery is supplying adequate voltage to the starter, and the starter is turning over the engine adequately for it to fire. The question is why it won't fire. I'm going back over to check on it, and if it's still there I'll see if it's registering on the tach during cranking. Big question remains - should I expect to see oil pressure during cranking?
olejoedad JAN 13, 02:25 PM
Oil pressure will rise when cranking.

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