Is a GT conversion a real GT? (Page 1/2)
Mike in Sydney NOV 19, 10:10 PM
While looking at Fieros on eBay. I stumbled across an '86 "GT" that appear to be in really good shape. When I read the ad, I saw that the "GT" was a notchie that had been converted with a rear GT clip and bumpers. The VIN clearly indicates it's a notchback coupe. The Seller says it's a true GT because he's converted it. I disagree and say it's a GT conversion. My question are would you consider this a true Fiero GT and, all things being equal, would you consider a GT conversion the same as a GT?

Let me say this, the conversion is beautifully done. Paint and interior is really nice.

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Mike in Sydney

pmbrunelle NOV 19, 10:38 PM
In my opinion, the VIN makes the GT.

Nothing wrong with a conversion though... the factory trim level is mostly irrelevant, what matters is if you like how the car is now. No need for the seller to get hung up on the trim level.

Here's thedrue's 1986 Fiero GT:
http://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin...6890&style=printable
It may not look like one at first glance, but it's a GT.

The other possibility is that you're looking at a stolen Fiero GT with a clean notchback VIN pasted onto it.
cvxjet NOV 20, 01:20 AM
I agree that the VIN makes the "GT"....I have an 85 SE V6 that I swapped 86-88 GT quarters on, but kept the base bumper-pad rear and also swapped a late base nose onto...I just wanted mine to look the way I thought it would look good- would never try to pass it off as a GT tho....

I can't post a pic here, but do a search for "cvxjet custom B pillars" and you should find a pic......
hyperv6 NOV 20, 06:22 AM
What a car is is based on the Vin.

But with that said in the case of the Fiero the 2M6 and GT are the same under the skin.

So physical you will have a GT on paper it will still have a 2M6.

As long as the work I’d done well and the miles are low will contribute more to what it is worth than anything.

Like the Ferrari body swap it is still Fiero even if it looks like a 308.
Gall757 NOV 20, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by hyperv6:

Like the Ferrari body swap it is still Fiero even if it looks like a 308.



Well, not quite the same....Under the Ferrari body is not a Ferrari frame and drivetrain. Under the converted GT is exactly what you would expect...a GT frame and drivetrain.

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hyperv6 NOV 20, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Gall757:


Well, not quite the same....Under the Ferrari body is not a Ferrari frame and drivetrain. Under the converted GT is exactly what you would expect...a GT frame and drivetrain.




You know what I mean. Yes the Fiero is still mechanically the same but it is still not the GT on paper.

I have a 2M6 so I have no agenda here.

As for value does it really matter? Miles and condition matter more anymore outside the 88 models.
Rexgirl NOV 20, 03:12 PM
Very attractive Fiero cvxjet, with most all my favorite body panels together with a nice custom touch.
Mike in Sydney: Of course, the '86 is worth somewhere between what the seller and buyer imagine, but FWIW, my opinion is his car is not a GT.
Mike in Sydney NOV 20, 05:32 PM
That's my thoughts, too. So the saying, "clothes maketh the man" doesn't apply in this case. It should be the "VIN maketh the car" (at least on vehicle titles and for insurance purposes).

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Mike in Sydney

fieroguru NOV 20, 06:42 PM
If it didn't leave the factory as a GT, then it is a GT Clone.
Been done lots of times, overall quality of the car and the conversion will determine ultimate value.
Raydar NOV 20, 09:01 PM
If you want the car to just drive and have fun, call it whatever you will. It probably doesn't matter.

If you're concerned about insurance and replacement cost, the insurance companies are going to (most likely) go by the VIN. After all, their job is to get out from under a claim as cheaply as possible.
If you're really concerned about insurance and replacement cost, you should probably talk with a purveyor of collector insurance, and buy an "agreed value" policy.