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mousemeat
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JUN 23, 10:53 AM
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Always thought that the Solstice, was an off spring of the Fiero. Sadly, like the Fiero, it arrived with an huge media splash, and like Fiero, had only 5 years to work out it's
bugs..before production was ended..Only in the case of the Solstice, what killed that car, was GM shutting down PONTIAC....
Fiero & the Solstice...two interesting Pontiac two seaters...
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CJB118
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JUN 23, 11:02 PM
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These are both examples of the ability of PMD engineers getting a project in thru the side door to production, and each in it's own way was a bean counter's fever dream. Also exactly that spirit, to get these produced, while knowing they were doomed in the long run, is why I have been a Pontiac Fan for as long as I have been driving... ------------------
1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula, Yellow, original. (CJB #118)
1977 Pontiac Le Mans Can-Am W72, original, unrestored.
1977 Pontiac Grand LeMans
2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP L67/MN7 (Parts Car)
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP L67/MN7 (DD)
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cvxjet
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JUN 24, 12:44 AM
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Pontiac is kind of like Mazda......Both run by enthusiasts.......But you always have to worry about where the "Beans" are coming from......and where they are going!
Also, isn't it interesting that the Fiero and RX7 were the most successful in GTU racing....?
I think that the biggest downfall of the Solstice was having basically no trunk...Kind of like the 3rd gen MR2 (Spyder).....Non-pragmatic enthusiasts always say a sportscar doesn't need a trunk- BULL-Shoot! You have to be able to take a couple of bags when traveling, or when grocery shopping.....(The Fiero has incredible trunk space- If you know how to pack; Brought my Fiero to work packed for a camping trip- Co-worker cut me down with the "No trunk room" BS.......So we went out at lunch and transferred most of the gear into his 1st gen RX-7......Whole rear of his RX-7 packed- could not see out back window...and I still had approx' 1/4 of my stuff NOT in his car! Fiero; Front & rear trunk plus behind the seats)
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mousemeat
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JUN 24, 02:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
Pontiac is kind of like Mazda......Both run by enthusiasts.......But you always have to worry about where the "Beans" are coming from......and where they are going!
Also, isn't it interesting that the Fiero and RX7 were the most successful in GTU racing....?
I think that the biggest downfall of the Solstice was having basically no trunk...Kind of like the 3rd gen MR2 (Spyder).....Non-pragmatic enthusiasts always say a sportscar doesn't need a trunk- BULL-Shoot! You have to be able to take a couple of bags when traveling, or when grocery shopping.....(The Fiero has incredible trunk space- If you know how to pack; Brought my Fiero to work packed for a camping trip- Co-worker cut me down with the "No trunk room" BS.......So we went out at lunch and transferred most of the gear into his 1st gen RX-7......Whole rear of his RX-7 packed- could not see out back window...and I still had approx' 1/4 of my stuff NOT in his car! Fiero; Front & rear trunk plus behind the seats) |
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Yeah, I've owned a first year Solstice...5 speed 177 hp beast..full pkg for that model year. I have a little over 37,000 on it...and yeah, having little or no trunk really bites the big weenie...gas mileage was so so...other things that torked me..is no place to put change ,keys, etc....the cup holders are CHEAP..and placed in bad areas...where it's almost impossible to use 'em....and the over use of hard and ugly plastic in the interior. and at least to me, the Bucket seats, aren't very comfortable...heck, my fiero buckets are far, far more comfortable......STILL, I'm happy that Pontiac built both the Fiero and the Solstice. A darn shame that they were allowed to continue to evolve..heck, when the Miatra first came out, the first 3 or 4 yrs, had issues...now 20 yrs into production, it's a nice little two seater.....no reason why both the Fiero and Solstice couldn't of had the same ops..but that GM for you...protect the Corvette at all course.....
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jaredmurray88
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JUN 25, 08:55 AM
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My uncle has a 66 he bought new... He is always up my case about dumping the fiero. My recourse is you kept yours before it was a collector car or classic. So I keep mine for sentiment sake. One day with such low numbers it might be worth bank. He shuts up pretty quick. Only god himself will talk me into getting rid of mine running or not. Gotta love the dedication of the vette guys even though they have issues too. He says his brakes sucked from new and that's why he parked it. Must have scared the crap out of him even after 1000s in brake jobs and upgrades. I blame the greasemonkey working on it not bleeding it good. Maybe I can get it one day and prove its not the car lol. Still never getting rid of the fiero though....
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Australian
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JUN 25, 09:20 AM
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GM lost focus about 20 years ago. The last thing you will see is some new mid engine performance. High performance GM is more a thing of past and what attracted people was race inspired now focus is on autonomous and green inspired electric hybrids. Other brands are like Honda by having less perfomance models are also losing sales. Not everyone bought the high end models but deleting them eliminates options and elimating the model out of peoples thoughts. If there was no BMW M3 there would be jack all 3 series sales to. The next generation chooses green overr performance but it doesn't relate with sales.
The fiero although designed to be a v8 vette killer was never made just the commuter car we strive to improve could you imagine the sales if the fiero was a built as intended. I would love to see a moden day GM mid or rear engine affordable car that was built for performance. I dont want an iodizer instead of an ashtray.
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fierosound
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JUN 25, 10:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
I think that the biggest downfall of the Solstice was having basically no trunk...Kind of like the 3rd gen MR2 (Spyder).....Non-pragmatic enthusiasts always say a sportscar doesn't need a trunk- BULL-Shoot! You have to be able to take a couple of bags when traveling, or when grocery shopping.....(The Fiero has incredible trunk space- If you know how to pack; Brought my Fiero to work packed for a camping trip- Co-worker cut me down with the "No trunk room" BS.......So we went out at lunch and transferred most of the gear into his 1st gen RX-7......Whole rear of his RX-7 packed- could not see out back window...and I still had approx' 1/4 of my stuff NOT in his car! Fiero; Front & rear trunk plus behind the seats) |
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I've gone camping with the Fiero. People could not believe a 4-person tent and all our gear came out of the car. 
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cam-a-lot
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JUN 25, 10:18 AM
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I am just happy to finally see the correct use of an apostrophe when referring to "Fiero's" in the subject line !!!!
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mousemeat
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JUN 25, 11:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Australian:
GM lost focus about 20 years ago. The last thing you will see is some new mid engine performance. High performance GM is more a thing of past and what attracted people was race inspired now focus is on autonomous and green inspired electric hybrids. Other brands are like Honda by having less perfomance models are also losing sales. Not everyone bought the high end models but deleting them eliminates options and elimating the model out of peoples thoughts. If there was no BMW M3 there would be jack all 3 series sales to. The next generation chooses green overr performance but it doesn't relate with sales.
The fiero although designed to be a v8 vette killer was never made just the commuter car we strive to improve could you imagine the sales if the fiero was a built as intended. I would love to see a moden day GM mid or rear engine affordable car that was built for performance. I dont want an iodizer instead of an ashtray. |
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Well you can thank the bean counters and the Corvette group at Chevy, for protecting their bacon....the closest the Fiero came to it's original dream, was the '88 model..then GM ordered Pontiac to kill the car..just imagine if it had another couple of years.....But GM has an long history of coming up and pulling the plug on many vehicles..besides the Fiero and the Solstice, GM killed the Corvair, and then the Vega....early vegas were trash, but the COSWORTH Vega, was a nice ride with some teeth.
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fierosound
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JUN 25, 08:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by mousemeat:
Well you can thank the bean counters and the Corvette group at Chevy, for protecting their bacon....the closest the Fiero came to it's original dream, was the '88 model..then GM ordered Pontiac to kill the car..just imagine if it had another couple of years.....But GM has an long history of coming up and pulling the plug on many vehicles..besides the Fiero and the Solstice, GM killed the Corvair, and then the Vega....early vegas were trash, but the COSWORTH Vega, was a nice ride with some teeth. |
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What about the Buick Grand National and Buick Regal T-Type?
Corvette owners were crying at the track when their brand new showroom car was being blown away by a brand new showroom Buick.
It seems GM/Chevy said "never again" after that...
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